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When they say 0.16 is removing Blessed Blades...
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Thursday, 15th January 2015, 17:43by Knight9910
...what exactly does this mean?
What I mean is...
Do they mean that they will no longer randomly spawn on enemies in the wild, but you can still get them from The Shining One?
Or are they actually GONE COMPLETELY, and The Shining One no longer has any reason to exist at all?
Or maybe TSO can still grant the Eudemon, Trishula, and Scourge, but the "Blessed" modifier has been removed?
Re: When they say 0.16 is removing Blessed Blades...
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Thursday, 15th January 2015, 17:47by duvessa
I would assume that "removing Blessed Blades" means "removing Blessed Blades". So blessing a scimitar would turn it into a scimitar of holy wrath, instead of turning it into a blessed blade, and blessing a demon blade would turn it into a eudemon blade instead of a blessed blade.
Knight9910 wrote:Or maybe TSO can still grant the Eudemon, Trishula, and Scourge, but the "Blessed" modifier has been removed?
None of these are blessed blades, and also TSO doesn't give eudemon blades at the moment (but blessed blades made from demon blades are identical). So I don't know why you would expect them to be affected.
Re: When they say 0.16 is removing Blessed Blades...
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Thursday, 15th January 2015, 17:54by Knight9910
The wiki lists all of them as Blessed Blades...
So then probably what will happen is, when TSO blesses your weapon it just gains the Holy Wrath brand, but no longer gains an upgraded form. ...actually, I think that's fair, because the "Blessed Blade" system kind of unfairly penalized people who used spears, axes, bows, etc. since their weapons didn't get the stat boost from being blessed.
Re: When they say 0.16 is removing Blessed Blades...
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Thursday, 15th January 2015, 18:23by crate
If you had TSO bless a long blade, in old versions it would be changed to a completely different basetype, and then all seven of these new basetypes were displayed ingame with the name "Blessed Blade". I haven't checked the commit but presumably these seven basetypes are removed and now blessing a long blade works exactly like blessing any other basetype.
If the wiki was calling anything but those seven special basetypes "blessed blade" then it was wrong.
(It might be eight, I didn't actually try blessing a eudemon blade.)
Re: When they say 0.16 is removing Blessed Blades...
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Thursday, 15th January 2015, 18:39by XuaXua
duvessa wrote:Knight9910 wrote:Or maybe TSO can still grant the Eudemon, Trishula, and Scourge, but the "Blessed" modifier has been removed?
None of these are blessed blades {...} So I don't know why you would expect them to be affected.
Because getting rid of one aspect of TSO implies the related aspect might also be cut.
If Eudemon / Trishula / Scourge are kept, I'd be inclined to request a Demon Axe / Holy Cleaver type to compensate the long-maligned axe-wielders.
Re: When they say 0.16 is removing Blessed Blades...
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Thursday, 15th January 2015, 18:58by Siegurt
XuaXua wrote:duvessa wrote:Knight9910 wrote:Or maybe TSO can still grant the Eudemon, Trishula, and Scourge, but the "Blessed" modifier has been removed?
None of these are blessed blades {...} So I don't know why you would expect them to be affected.
Because getting rid of one aspect of TSO implies the related aspect might also be cut.
If Eudemon / Trishula / Scourge are kept, I'd be inclined to request a Demon Axe / Holy Cleaver type to compensate the long-maligned axe-wielders.
Do you likewise request a demon long dagger with a sanctified crystal short blade upgrade?
Re: When they say 0.16 is removing Blessed Blades...
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Thursday, 15th January 2015, 19:34by Igxfl
Siegurt wrote:XuaXua wrote:If Eudemon / Trishula / Scourge are kept, I'd be inclined to request a Demon Axe / Holy Cleaver type to compensate the long-maligned axe-wielders.
Do you likewise request a demon long dagger with a sanctified crystal short blade upgrade?
It's "Sacred Scalpel".
Re: When they say 0.16 is removing Blessed Blades...
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Thursday, 15th January 2015, 20:04by XuaXua
Siegurt wrote:Do you likewise request a demon long dagger with a sanctified crystal short blade upgrade?
No, because Long Blades crosstrains, and it's not my fault you are a Spriggan. And it's a "sacrificial dagger".
Re: When they say 0.16 is removing Blessed Blades...
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Thursday, 15th January 2015, 20:52by crate
No, because Long Blades crosstrains
polearms and maces
both crosstrain with axes
Re: When they say 0.16 is removing Blessed Blades...
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Thursday, 15th January 2015, 22:11by duvessa
the +15 quartz axe {holy, +Fly Str+3 SInv Bless}
Re: When they say 0.16 is removing Blessed Blades...
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Thursday, 15th January 2015, 22:43by PleasingFungus
duvessa wrote:I would assume that "removing Blessed Blades" means "removing Blessed Blades". So blessing a scimitar would turn it into a scimitar of holy wrath, instead of turning it into a blessed blade, and blessing a demon blade would turn it into a eudemon blade instead of a blessed blade.
(Except that blessing demon blades already turned them into eudaemon blades.)
Nota bene (for those who weren't aware): TSO's blessing also grants a few free levels of enchantment. (This was true even before the change.)
Knight9910 wrote:Or are they actually GONE COMPLETELY, and The Shining One no longer has any reason to exist at all?
rip TSO
Re: When they say 0.16 is removing Blessed Blades...
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Thursday, 15th January 2015, 23:13by crate
(Except that blessing demon blades already turned them into eudaemon blades.)
I actually tested this in 0.15-a0-1908 and I ended up with a "Blessed Blade", not a eudemon blade. (It has the same stats but it is called "Blessed Blade".)
Re: When they say 0.16 is removing Blessed Blades...
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Friday, 16th January 2015, 01:39by Knight9910
Siegurt wrote:Do you likewise request a demon long dagger with a sanctified crystal short blade upgrade?
YES.
Re: When they say 0.16 is removing Blessed Blades...
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Friday, 16th January 2015, 03:08by McGeekster
Knight9910 wrote:Siegurt wrote:Do you likewise request a demon long dagger with a sanctified crystal short blade upgrade?
YES.
Stabbers are already way too easy. Maybe if you remove half of the hexes in the game...
Re: When they say 0.16 is removing Blessed Blades...
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Friday, 16th January 2015, 03:35by mechanicalmaniac
Oh come on guys. Don't remove, add. Add a "Holy Lance" basetype for spear users and other stuff for other weapon types.
Re: When they say 0.16 is removing Blessed Blades...
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Friday, 16th January 2015, 06:39by crate
Even if you think blessed blades are a good idea I would suggest that having seven different items have the same name is not a good thing.
Re: When they say 0.16 is removing Blessed Blades...
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Friday, 16th January 2015, 17:09by PleasingFungus
crate wrote:I actually tested this in 0.15-a0-1908 and I ended up with a "Blessed Blade", not a eudemon blade. (It has the same stats but it is called "Blessed Blade".)
Weird.
Moot now, I guess.
Re: When they say 0.16 is removing Blessed Blades...
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Friday, 16th January 2015, 17:11by Giant Orange Brainbow Dash
Was it an artefact eudemon blade like Chei's old ponderous items used to be?