When they say 0.16 is removing Blessed Blades...


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Post Thursday, 15th January 2015, 17:43

When they say 0.16 is removing Blessed Blades...

...what exactly does this mean?

What I mean is...

Do they mean that they will no longer randomly spawn on enemies in the wild, but you can still get them from The Shining One?

Or are they actually GONE COMPLETELY, and The Shining One no longer has any reason to exist at all?

Or maybe TSO can still grant the Eudemon, Trishula, and Scourge, but the "Blessed" modifier has been removed?

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Post Thursday, 15th January 2015, 17:47

Re: When they say 0.16 is removing Blessed Blades...

I would assume that "removing Blessed Blades" means "removing Blessed Blades". So blessing a scimitar would turn it into a scimitar of holy wrath, instead of turning it into a blessed blade, and blessing a demon blade would turn it into a eudemon blade instead of a blessed blade.

Knight9910 wrote:Or maybe TSO can still grant the Eudemon, Trishula, and Scourge, but the "Blessed" modifier has been removed?
None of these are blessed blades, and also TSO doesn't give eudemon blades at the moment (but blessed blades made from demon blades are identical). So I don't know why you would expect them to be affected.

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Post Thursday, 15th January 2015, 17:54

Re: When they say 0.16 is removing Blessed Blades...

The wiki lists all of them as Blessed Blades...

So then probably what will happen is, when TSO blesses your weapon it just gains the Holy Wrath brand, but no longer gains an upgraded form. ...actually, I think that's fair, because the "Blessed Blade" system kind of unfairly penalized people who used spears, axes, bows, etc. since their weapons didn't get the stat boost from being blessed.

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Post Thursday, 15th January 2015, 18:23

Re: When they say 0.16 is removing Blessed Blades...

If you had TSO bless a long blade, in old versions it would be changed to a completely different basetype, and then all seven of these new basetypes were displayed ingame with the name "Blessed Blade". I haven't checked the commit but presumably these seven basetypes are removed and now blessing a long blade works exactly like blessing any other basetype.

If the wiki was calling anything but those seven special basetypes "blessed blade" then it was wrong.

(It might be eight, I didn't actually try blessing a eudemon blade.)
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Post Thursday, 15th January 2015, 18:39

Re: When they say 0.16 is removing Blessed Blades...

duvessa wrote:
Knight9910 wrote:Or maybe TSO can still grant the Eudemon, Trishula, and Scourge, but the "Blessed" modifier has been removed?
None of these are blessed blades {...} So I don't know why you would expect them to be affected.


Because getting rid of one aspect of TSO implies the related aspect might also be cut.

If Eudemon / Trishula / Scourge are kept, I'd be inclined to request a Demon Axe / Holy Cleaver type to compensate the long-maligned axe-wielders.
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Post Thursday, 15th January 2015, 18:58

Re: When they say 0.16 is removing Blessed Blades...

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duvessa wrote:
Knight9910 wrote:Or maybe TSO can still grant the Eudemon, Trishula, and Scourge, but the "Blessed" modifier has been removed?
None of these are blessed blades {...} So I don't know why you would expect them to be affected.


Because getting rid of one aspect of TSO implies the related aspect might also be cut.

If Eudemon / Trishula / Scourge are kept, I'd be inclined to request a Demon Axe / Holy Cleaver type to compensate the long-maligned axe-wielders.

Do you likewise request a demon long dagger with a sanctified crystal short blade upgrade?
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Post Thursday, 15th January 2015, 19:34

Re: When they say 0.16 is removing Blessed Blades...

Siegurt wrote:
XuaXua wrote:If Eudemon / Trishula / Scourge are kept, I'd be inclined to request a Demon Axe / Holy Cleaver type to compensate the long-maligned axe-wielders.

Do you likewise request a demon long dagger with a sanctified crystal short blade upgrade?


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Post Thursday, 15th January 2015, 20:04

Re: When they say 0.16 is removing Blessed Blades...

Siegurt wrote:Do you likewise request a demon long dagger with a sanctified crystal short blade upgrade?


No, because Long Blades crosstrains, and it's not my fault you are a Spriggan. And it's a "sacrificial dagger".
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Post Thursday, 15th January 2015, 20:52

Re: When they say 0.16 is removing Blessed Blades...

No, because Long Blades crosstrains

polearms and maces both crosstrain with axes

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Post Thursday, 15th January 2015, 22:11

Re: When they say 0.16 is removing Blessed Blades...

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Post Thursday, 15th January 2015, 22:43

Re: When they say 0.16 is removing Blessed Blades...

duvessa wrote:I would assume that "removing Blessed Blades" means "removing Blessed Blades". So blessing a scimitar would turn it into a scimitar of holy wrath, instead of turning it into a blessed blade, and blessing a demon blade would turn it into a eudemon blade instead of a blessed blade.

Winner, winner, chicken dinner. (Except that blessing demon blades already turned them into eudaemon blades.)

Nota bene (for those who weren't aware): TSO's blessing also grants a few free levels of enchantment. (This was true even before the change.)

Knight9910 wrote:Or are they actually GONE COMPLETELY, and The Shining One no longer has any reason to exist at all?

rip TSO

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Post Thursday, 15th January 2015, 23:13

Re: When they say 0.16 is removing Blessed Blades...

(Except that blessing demon blades already turned them into eudaemon blades.)

I actually tested this in 0.15-a0-1908 and I ended up with a "Blessed Blade", not a eudemon blade. (It has the same stats but it is called "Blessed Blade".)

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Post Friday, 16th January 2015, 01:39

Re: When they say 0.16 is removing Blessed Blades...

Siegurt wrote:Do you likewise request a demon long dagger with a sanctified crystal short blade upgrade?


YES.
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Post Friday, 16th January 2015, 03:08

Re: When they say 0.16 is removing Blessed Blades...

Knight9910 wrote:
Siegurt wrote:Do you likewise request a demon long dagger with a sanctified crystal short blade upgrade?


YES.


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Post Friday, 16th January 2015, 03:35

Re: When they say 0.16 is removing Blessed Blades...

Oh come on guys. Don't remove, add. Add a "Holy Lance" basetype for spear users and other stuff for other weapon types.

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Post Friday, 16th January 2015, 06:39

Re: When they say 0.16 is removing Blessed Blades...

Even if you think blessed blades are a good idea I would suggest that having seven different items have the same name is not a good thing.

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Post Friday, 16th January 2015, 17:09

Re: When they say 0.16 is removing Blessed Blades...

crate wrote:I actually tested this in 0.15-a0-1908 and I ended up with a "Blessed Blade", not a eudemon blade. (It has the same stats but it is called "Blessed Blade".)

Weird.

Moot now, I guess.

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Post Friday, 16th January 2015, 17:11

Re: When they say 0.16 is removing Blessed Blades...

Was it an artefact eudemon blade like Chei's old ponderous items used to be?

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