Orb of Cold (spell)


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Post Thursday, 2nd October 2014, 16:26

Orb of Cold (spell)

My intent for this is to replace Ozzy's Refrigeration. While it is a pretty nifty spell with a lot of utility, I feel like it is a bit bland and I tend to just save my spell levels for freezing cloud whenever possible, even with the Air spell school requirement.

I think this would fill a similar niche but be more interesting overall.

Orb of Cold: Summons an orb that radiates pure cold, with radius scaling with spell power. If it hits an enemy, it shatters, dealing cold damage to neighboring enemies and freezing the target in a temporary block of ice. Orb wobbles around similar to OOD.
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Post Thursday, 2nd October 2014, 17:40

Re: Orb of Cold (spell)

If you must replace a spell, replace simulacrum...
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Post Thursday, 2nd October 2014, 17:51

Re: Orb of Cold (spell)

Greyr wrote:If you must replace a spell, replace simulacrum...


Ice Mirror. Cast it with line-of-sight to a non-adjacent target monster; Simulacrum of that monster appears adjacent to caster in line-of-sight between and the target monster.
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Post Thursday, 2nd October 2014, 17:55

Re: Orb of Cold (spell)

XuaXua wrote:
Greyr wrote:If you must replace a spell, replace simulacrum...


Ice Mirror. Cast it, non-smite-targeting-select any monster in view, and a Simulacrum of that monster appears in a line-of-sight space between or adjacent to the caster and the target monster.


I would much prefer this over current Simulacrum.
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Post Thursday, 2nd October 2014, 17:58

Re: Orb of Cold (spell)

Greyr wrote:I would much prefer this over current Simulacrum.


What I like about it is that while Simulacrum requires chunks, the revised version of this (post your quoting) requires distance AND line-of-sight with the target (putting the player in danger), places the simulacrum in line-of-sight (defending the player while somewhat preventing subsequent casts by blocking LOS), and can't be cast after the target monster is dead.

Additional rules:
- you can't Ice Mirror a friendly or a Simulacrum.
- Simulacrum must try to approach or attack mirrored target until target is dead, then survives as a simulacrum.
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Post Thursday, 2nd October 2014, 18:13

Re: Orb of Cold (spell)

XuaXua wrote:
Greyr wrote:I would much prefer this over current Simulacrum.


What I like about it is that while Simulacrum requires chunks, the revised version of this (post your quoting) requires line-of-sight with the target (putting the player in danger), places the simulacrum in line-of-sight (defending the player while somewhat preventing subsequent casts by blocking LOS), and can't be cast after the target monster is dead.

Additional rules:
- you can't Ice Mirror a friendly or a Simulacrum.
- Simulacrum must try to approach or attack mirrored target until target is dead, then survives as a simulacrum.


It's like a mini-icy haunt! Also, Ice Mirror not requiring chunks is a good thing. Simulacrum is better in .15, but chunk and corpse magic (with the exception of animate dead) is often pretty tedious.

E: We should take Ice Mirror elsewhere, the OP isn't getting any love :(
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Post Friday, 3rd October 2014, 14:31

Re: Orb of Cold (spell)

Greyr wrote:E: We should take Ice Mirror elsewhere, the OP isn't getting any love :(


I had planned to do just that. Edit: done
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Post Friday, 3rd October 2014, 14:57

Re: Orb of Cold (spell)

Orb of Sultanas, because there really needs to be a fruit based threat in Zot.
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Post Friday, 3rd October 2014, 15:40

Re: Orb of Cold (spell)

Refrigeration is literally the only spell except shatter that does what it does.
It also makes you unable to chug potions for a while.

But I guess a carbon copy of bolt of fire is much less bland than that.
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Post Friday, 3rd October 2014, 15:46

Re: Orb of Cold (spell)

Bloax wrote:Refrigeration is literally the only spell except shatter that does what it does.
It also makes you unable to chug potions for a while.

But I guess a carbon copy of bolt of fire is much less bland than that.


Hell, you raise a good point- this could easily replace Bolt of Cold to further reduce unnecessary symmetry.
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Post Friday, 3rd October 2014, 15:55

Re: Orb of Cold (spell)

Bloax wrote:Refrigeration is literally the only spell except shatter that does what it does.
It also makes you unable to chug potions for a while.


Maybe I misinterpret your point here, but Olgreb's Toxic Radiance?
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Post Friday, 3rd October 2014, 16:24

Re: Orb of Cold (spell)

OTR can't clear a horde of monsters in a couple of turns.
Shatter and The Fridge certainly can.
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Post Friday, 3rd October 2014, 17:11

Re: Orb of Cold (spell)

Don't forget slouch. I don't think this brand of spell/ability is all that uncommon.
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Post Friday, 3rd October 2014, 18:19

Re: Orb of Cold (spell)

If you count Torment/Slouch (which are both god abilities, although one is a scroll too) then sure, but gods are very far from being spells.
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