Bad judgement by Asterion


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Post Saturday, 13th September 2014, 15:50

Bad judgement by Asterion

My KoAK was fighting Asterion in Shoals. I took it on the safe side and quaffed haste, might and agility just to be sure. The bastard went invis so I used a scroll of fog to see it's position. Killed the spectral weapons as they got summoned. Finally Asterion decided to blast me even though I was next to him. The resulting fireball killed Asterion (I had rf+ and still lots of hit points). A bit of an anticlimax.
DCSS: 97:...MfCj}SpNeBaEEGrFE{HaAKTrCK}DsFESpHu{FoArNaBe}
FeEE{HOIEMiAE}GrGlHuWrGnWrNaAKBaFi{MiDeMfDe}{DrAKTrAMGhEnGnWz}
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Post Saturday, 13th September 2014, 15:58

Re: Bad judgement by Asterion

I think such death can make sense. For example: Asterion has 1HP remaining and maxed roll from the explosion can kill PC.
I have an impression that Deep Elf Sorcerers tend to use Hellfire in similar situations too, they are more likely to use it when they are low on HP because they are about to die anyway and it's the most optimal way to deal high damage to player. (Probably clustering illusion though).
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Post Saturday, 13th September 2014, 16:21

Re: Bad judgement by Asterion

Asterion doesn't have fireball as a spell, he has Major Destruction. Probably just a bit of bad luck on his part.

Or Makhleb was having a bad day.
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Post Saturday, 13th September 2014, 18:52

Re: Bad judgement by Asterion

Yes, I wonder if Asterion even considers the possibility of getting fireball out of major destruction in such a situation. Probably not. Anyway I'm positively sure that even maxed roll could not have killed me.
DCSS: 97:...MfCj}SpNeBaEEGrFE{HaAKTrCK}DsFESpHu{FoArNaBe}
FeEE{HOIEMiAE}GrGlHuWrGnWrNaAKBaFi{MiDeMfDe}{DrAKTrAMGhEnGnWz}
{PaBeDjFi}OgAKPaCAGnCjOgCKMfAEAtCKSpCjDEEE{HOSu
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Post Saturday, 13th September 2014, 19:04

Re: Bad judgement by Asterion

Sandman25 wrote:it's the most optimal way to deal high damage to player.


Sprucery wrote:I wonder if Asterion even considers the possibility of getting fireball out of major destruction in such a situation.


I'm absolutely sure that the AI does not consider anything of this kind. You are giving it way too much credit.

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Post Saturday, 13th September 2014, 19:27

Re: Bad judgement by Asterion

Have you considered that maybe you are a bad judgement and that Asterion rules a kingdom so he's probably pretty wise even with mino int that makes it a bit hard to do all that fireball math under pressure so we shouldn't judge him for that ok?!!...!!

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Post Saturday, 13th September 2014, 19:44

Re: Bad judgement by Asterion

did you know that deep elf sorcerers/high priests and draconian scorchers/zealots will happily suicide hellfire bomb you

same shit here
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Post Saturday, 13th September 2014, 19:48

Re: Bad judgement by Asterion

Yeah guys, stop flaming Asterion.
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Post Saturday, 13th September 2014, 21:38

Re: Bad judgement by Asterion

What is Asterion's int? What's its level? Did it get stat raises? Did it get to choose which stat to raise? Did it raise int? So many questions...

Anyway, I bet it was just that Makhleb saw Asterion was losing the fight and decided to make it go away with a bang.
DCSS: 97:...MfCj}SpNeBaEEGrFE{HaAKTrCK}DsFESpHu{FoArNaBe}
FeEE{HOIEMiAE}GrGlHuWrGnWrNaAKBaFi{MiDeMfDe}{DrAKTrAMGhEnGnWz}
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Post Saturday, 13th September 2014, 23:37

Re: Bad judgement by Asterion

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Asterion begins praying to Makhleb...
"Please Bolt of Cold, please!!"
You hear a booming voice:

"Lol nope have a fireball."

The fiery explosion engulfs Asterion!

Makhleb logic:

Blood and souls for Makhleb!
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Post Sunday, 14th September 2014, 05:11

Re: Bad judgement by Asterion

Deep elf sorcerer does not use hellfire when it's next to you. Deep elf high priests and draconian zealots/scorchers are the ones who use hellfire burst even on melee range.

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Post Sunday, 14th September 2014, 23:03

Re: Bad judgement by Asterion

Ogre mages don't seem to mind sacrificing themselves either:
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a - a +7 bastard sword of draining (weapon)
You slice the ogre mage!! You drain the ogre mage!
The ogre mage is almost dead.
The ogre mage hits you but does no damage.
The two-headed ogre barely misses you. The two-headed ogre misses you.
You closely miss the ogre mage.
The ogre mage is almost dead.
The ogre mage points at you and mumbles some strange words.
The fireball explodes! The fireball engulfs you! The fireball engulfs the ogre mage.
The ogre mage dies!
The fireball engulfs the two-headed ogre.
The two-headed ogre misses you.
The two-headed ogre completely misses you.
DCSS: 97:...MfCj}SpNeBaEEGrFE{HaAKTrCK}DsFESpHu{FoArNaBe}
FeEE{HOIEMiAE}GrGlHuWrGnWrNaAKBaFi{MiDeMfDe}{DrAKTrAMGhEnGnWz}
{PaBeDjFi}OgAKPaCAGnCjOgCKMfAEAtCKSpCjDEEE{HOSu
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Post Monday, 15th September 2014, 17:41

Re: Bad judgement by Asterion

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Post Tuesday, 23rd September 2014, 17:04

Re: Bad judgement by Asterion

Is Asterion is a king of Yasd? I once met him in Spider and he tangled himself in webs and shortly died there, due to severe blunt trauma

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