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Conflicting Rules
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Tuesday, 1st July 2014, 10:01by Hopeless
pressing 'o' or 'shift arrow' will not move you towards a ballystomcyte because its a monster!!! But you can't target one with a spell (unless you use an extra 5 or so keypresses) because its NOT!!! a monster??? Anyone else find this contradictory and absurd?
Re: Conflicting Rules
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Tuesday, 1st July 2014, 12:16by Patashu
solution: remove ballystomcytes except if you're fedhas and make them because they're a dumb enemy that haven't threatened anyone in several years
Re: Conflicting Rules
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Tuesday, 1st July 2014, 12:42by Sar
Not sure if a counterpoint:
Re: Conflicting Rules
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Tuesday, 1st July 2014, 13:48by KittenInMyCerealz
Ballistomycetes create interesting scenarios especially when Uniques have spawned on the same level.
There is no reason for not being able to autotarget them with spells though.
Re: Conflicting Rules
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Tuesday, 1st July 2014, 14:25by skjarl
I just wish I could take out those damned spores with blowguns. :'( It doesn't work, though.
Re: Conflicting Rules
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Tuesday, 1st July 2014, 14:56by XuaXua
Re: Conflicting Rules
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Tuesday, 1st July 2014, 16:35by Hopeless
XuaXua wrote:https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=7355
Wow almost a year old and nothing lol. I guess it was considered to be a non-issue?
Re: Conflicting Rules
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Tuesday, 1st July 2014, 16:55by reaver
Hopeless wrote:XuaXua wrote:https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=7355
Wow almost a year old and nothing lol. I guess it was considered to be a non-issue?
Generally if nobody handles something on mantis in a way with a clear resolution - such as fixing the bug or stating a change won't be done - the issue just stays open indefinitely. There are hundreds of open mantis issues, some of which have been open for several years.
Re: Conflicting Rules
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Tuesday, 1st July 2014, 19:00by Lasty
The only reason I ever have trouble with spores is that for some reason I have trouble seeing any of the asterisk characters in terminal as monsters. Usually they just make me throw something and then attack firewood for a while.
Yes, that is a big problem for me when there are orbs of fire around. I should probably re-glyph them.
Re: Conflicting Rules
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Tuesday, 1st July 2014, 19:51by XuaXua
reaver wrote:Hopeless wrote:XuaXua wrote:https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=7355
Wow almost a year old and nothing lol. I guess it was considered to be a non-issue?
Generally if nobody handles something on mantis in a way with a clear resolution - such as fixing the bug or stating a change won't be done - the issue just stays open indefinitely. There are hundreds of open mantis issues, some of which have been open for several years.
Whenever I have one open that reflects a complaint in a current Tavern thread, I tend to post a link to it; I think others should do this as well, but I suspect the intersection of Mantis submitters and Tavern users is smaller than one might expect it to be.
Re: Conflicting Rules
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Wednesday, 2nd July 2014, 22:39by tasonir
XuaXua wrote:Whenever I have one open that reflects a complaint in a current Tavern thread, I tend to post a link to it; I think others should do this as well, but I suspect the intersection of Mantis submitters and Tavern users is smaller than one might expect it to be.
I tend to avoid the dev wiki/mantis because my ideas are generally terrible, yet come to the forum to suggest them and find out why they're terrible, so yes, you're right xuaxua.
Re: Conflicting Rules
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Wednesday, 2nd July 2014, 22:57by crate
mantis is for bug reports, not feature requests
Re: Conflicting Rules
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Wednesday, 2nd July 2014, 23:10by Sar
Isn't mantis also a place for community-submitted patches?
Re: Conflicting Rules
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Thursday, 3rd July 2014, 00:21by Hopeless
crate wrote:mantis is for bug reports, not feature requests
Is requesting some logical resolution to this asking for a feature? Or is it a suggestion that there may be a bug in the implementation?
Re: Conflicting Rules
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Thursday, 3rd July 2014, 01:04by duvessa
He might have been talking to one of the eight other people that posted in the thread after you made it. In fact, I believe he was probably talking to one of the people who mentioned Mantis.
Re: Conflicting Rules
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Thursday, 3rd July 2014, 01:18by Arrhythmia
Hopeless wrote:crate wrote:mantis is for bug reports, not feature requests
Is requesting some logical resolution to this asking for a feature? Or is it a suggestion that there may be a bug in the implementation?
To actually answer your question, instead of being a snide asshole, requesting a resolution to this wouldn't be a feature request. In general, if you're in doubt, just put it up on Mantis anyways; the worst thing that'll happen is someone might make fun of you a little.
Re: Conflicting Rules
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Thursday, 3rd July 2014, 03:38by XuaXua
My interpretation was that crate's post was a response to tasonir's comment about tasonir not wanting to post his ideas to Mantis but to Tavern first, and in that sense, crate was correct; don't post new concepts to Mantis.
My link to Mantis is to something that I view as a bug with the existing system that needs to be logged, and while it may require some coding or decision making to resolve, that Mantis entry is a low priority bug, not a feature request.
Re: Conflicting Rules
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Thursday, 3rd July 2014, 22:14by tasonir
crate wrote:mantis is for bug reports, not feature requests
I'm aware - I also post bug reports on the forums because I only use the forums. As an example:
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=11832I suppose you could call "better messaging" a feature, but I'd consider that a bug.
I'm not going to dig it way up from 2010, but when my character died due to a bug with melding +fly items cancelling the spell of flight, I also reported it on the forums, had someone else confirm it was a bug, and the bug got fixed fairly soon after that. I'm not sure if the visibility on the forums had an effect on that or not, but I tell myself it did. It was already known beforehand, in any case.