Deep Elf Priests of Exactly What?


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Post Sunday, 22nd June 2014, 18:17

Deep Elf Priests of Exactly What?

Orc priests invoke Beogh's power to smite you.

Could we chalk up Deep Elf Priests' smiting to some specific god? I'd say Vehumet, but it could be any other different deity. It might even be a random god from a subset, making elves polytheist.

The difference is as simple as a message change, and would add a tiny bit of flavor without impacting gameplay.

I can conceive the counter-argument that "vehumet/insertanothergodhere doesn't smite", but well, Orc High Priests can summon demons and a player character orc jesus can't (well, I think it's still possible, but wholly unrelated).
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Post Sunday, 22nd June 2014, 18:26

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Post Sunday, 22nd June 2014, 19:59

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I always imagined elves being demon worshippers so Mkahleb could be another choice.

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Post Sunday, 22nd June 2014, 20:26

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imo remove deep elf priests so this won't be a problem.

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Post Sunday, 22nd June 2014, 20:31

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zrn wrote:imo remove deep elf priests so this won't be a problem.


Because entirely removing one (or two, not sure) monsters from the deep elf repertoire instead of changing the appearance of "their god" in a couple of messages to an actual deity name or, you know, not doing anything at all and keeping things as they are, IS AN ENTIRELY PROPORTIONATE RESPONSE. :?
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Post Sunday, 22nd June 2014, 20:33

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Whoops why did this thread get shafted?!
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Post Sunday, 22nd June 2014, 20:41

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because it does not belong in game design discussion
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Post Sunday, 22nd June 2014, 21:14

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duvessa wrote:because it does not belong in game design discussion

It's clearly a proposal :?
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Post Sunday, 22nd June 2014, 21:20

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Flavour posts tend to (and rightfully so) end up here.
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Post Sunday, 22nd June 2014, 21:26

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I dont understand why people say threads that get moved to CYC got shafted. this would mean CYC is below GDD, when it is obviously a glowing realm of unleashed FUN and superior in every aspect.
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Post Sunday, 22nd June 2014, 21:39

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Also, if a thread gets moved to CYC, you should say the thread was hammered, not shafted, obviously.
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Post Sunday, 22nd June 2014, 21:47

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maybe the hammer had that shafting brand Dpeg was thinking about?
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Post Sunday, 22nd June 2014, 23:47

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zrn wrote:imo remove deep elf priests so this won't be a problem.

Imho remove elves so this won't be a problem. :)
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Post Monday, 23rd June 2014, 00:46

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REMOVE THE GAME SO NOTHING WILL EVER BE A PROBLEM :lol:
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Post Monday, 23rd June 2014, 01:31

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If a new tavern member proposed Formicids, it'd be moved to CYC and ridiculed.
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Post Monday, 23rd June 2014, 01:44

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Klown wrote:If a new tavern member proposed Formicids, it'd be moved to CYC and ridiculed.

And rightly so, Formicids are ridiculous! :p
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Post Monday, 23rd June 2014, 02:07

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I like them. hard, but not unfair. also, the gimmicks are pretty cool.
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Post Monday, 23rd June 2014, 05:09

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Psiweapon wrote:Orc priests invoke Beogh's power to smite you.

Could we chalk up Deep Elf Priests' smiting to some specific god?


Yes. They worship the spooky nameless god, GOD_NAMELESS. (Likewise mummies & draconians, if you were wondering.)

Of course, when Mnoleg is moved to guard the Pan entrance in Elf (in 0.17), the elves will be rethemed to worship him, instead. (And killing Mnoleg will disable their divine powers.) But no rush...

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Post Monday, 23rd June 2014, 05:27

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Psiweapon wrote:Orc priests invoke Beogh's power to smite you.

Could we chalk up Deep Elf Priests' smiting to some specific god?


Yes. They worship the spooky nameless god, GOD_NAMELESS. (Likewise mummies & draconians, if you were wondering.)

Of course, when Mnoleg is moved to guard the Pan entrance in Elf (in 0.17), the elves will be rethemed to worship him, instead. (And killing Mnoleg will disable their divine powers.) But no rush...


If you are shitting me not, which I don't actually know, that's awesomely cool and I feel my perceived need fulfilled.
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Post Monday, 23rd June 2014, 18:47

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I brought this up before. End result was this: viewtopic.php?f=8&t=12282

...Honestly though; since their only offered abilities (malign offering and hellfire) would be like a weaker version of drain life (more healing to summons, but only one target) and more reliable 'greater destruction' respectively and don't really have a design space unique to themselves; best it could ever be as a player god is abilities for RandGods.
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Post Monday, 23rd June 2014, 21:19

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I agree that being more specific with enemy priest messages would be an improvement, though I think using one of the temple gods is the wrong approach. Something like "The deep elf priest invokes the aid of its nameless/mysterious/ancient/whatever god against you" would clarify that these guys have the aid of a specific deity, different from those that the player can worship, and prevents awkward questions like "why does Vehumet smite for them but not me?" There doesn't need to be a name or any further explanation; the player can fill those gaps himself.

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