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Post Sunday, 11th May 2014, 00:08

Species -Fun- Survey

Results

So boring, I'm sleeping!

Mummies
Felids

Meh

Spriggans
Centaurs
Demigods
Ghouls
Vampires
High Elves

Average

Trolls
Halflings
Kobolds
Hill Orcs
Tengu
Gargoyles
Minotaurs
Merfolk

Interesting

Deep Dwarves
Draconians
Nagas
Formicids
Octopodes
Vine Stalkers
Ogres
Humans
Deep Elves

More fun than Xom wearing a sombrero

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Finally, something I can rate nagas a 5 on :)

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Post Sunday, 11th May 2014, 10:09

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i don't think anything in crawl can be rated a 5 crawl is more like a way to kill time between the fun bits in life which are becoming increasingly rare

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Post Sunday, 11th May 2014, 12:53

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This poll is much harder to answer. I suspect we will not have any consensus here.
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Sandman25 wrote:This poll is much harder to answer. I suspect we will not have any consensus here.


Very subjective. :)

The good part is GDD getting flooded with 'see this is boring, change nao!!111' threads and watching the devs do this.
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I just realized how much of a hater I am D:
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Post Sunday, 11th May 2014, 22:45

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I wish you'd add a "haven't tried" option. A lot of these, I'd just be lying if I answered.

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It let me leave answers blank when I filled it out.

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cerebovssquire wrote:i don't think anything in crawl can be rated a 5 crawl is more like a way to kill time between the fun bits in life which are becoming increasingly rare


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Proposal: Give Xom a sombrero.

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Xombrero
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Post Tuesday, 13th May 2014, 01:18

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Will post results tomorrow :)

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Klown wrote:Proposal: Give Xom a sombrero.

Xom always struck me as more of a fedora guy

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I always thought Xom would wear one of those hats with the beer cans on the sides and the straws going down to your mouth, Of course one can would be filled with pure LSD and the other with pure liquid caffeine, but you know...
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Heyoooo. Results in the first post. Thanks for taking part again. :mrgreen:

The two species voted the 'weakest' were also voted the most boring. :shock:

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Damn, I missed my chance to vote. Conversely I actually have a lot of fun with Mummies. But they are still terrible and awful and need to be improved. Especially if I'm the only one who can have with them as they stand now.

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it's surprising people's opinions can be this wrong

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Apparently I posted this species ranking almost exactly a year ago (more fun is further to the left): mu,dg,ds,hu,op,na,mi,ho,tr,he,se,mf,de,og,gh,dr,vp,te,ha,ko,ce,sp,dd,fe

My current one would be something like mu,dg,ds,hu,op,he,og,tr,gh,mf,te,de,dr,mi,ho,gr,vp,ha,ko,na,ce,fo,sp,dd,fe. IIRC I rated everything past te as 1, everything to the left of op as the 5, op as 4, and the rest as 2.

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Surprisingly this one makes me way less argumentative than the strength one. Except I'm once again baffled by the placing of Dg - how do you put them down there while (rightly) putting Hu on the other end - and in the opposite direction DE. I guess I'm surprised to see Sp so unpopular as well, but that strikes me as a respectable opinion, just as I respect the Mummy club but am not a member.
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Surprisingly this one make me way less argumentative than the strength one.

While both are fully subjective, the strength one pretends to be objective so people are more argumentative about it.

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dck wrote:it's surprising people's opinions can be this wrong


I don't think subjective opinions of what is fun to someone can be 'wrong'. :P
Doesn't mean you can't disagree, though. ;)

I'm surprised Deep Dwarves got so much love. By mid game, I'm trying to kill mine usually. Hate those things. :x

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zardo wrote:Except I'm once again baffled by the placing of Dg - how do you put them down there while (rightly) putting Hu on the other end
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Looks pretty darn accurate to me actually
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duvessa wrote:My current one would be something like mu,dg,ds,hu,op,he,og,tr,gh,mf,te,de,dr,mi,ho,gr,vp,ha,ko,na,ce,fo,sp,dd,fe.


VS confirmed not even below-Felid tier. Thanks dck; I only hope Basil can fix this.

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Ugh I always forget those made it into stable. mu,dg,ds,hu,op,he,og,tr,gh,mf,te,de,vs,dr,mi,ho,gr,vp,ha,ko,na,ce,fo,sp,dd,fe.

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duvessa wrote:Ugh I always forget those made it into stable. mu,dg,ds,hu,op,he,og,tr,gh,mf,te,de,vs,dr,mi,ho,gr,vp,ha,ko,na,ce,fo,sp,dd,fe.

i was surprised that DE and HE were so high but then i remembered you really like to enjoy your elves

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eugh, the elv rights federation is onto us
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All species are equally fun. Down with racism!
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Klown wrote:Heyoooo. Results in the first post. Thanks for taking part again. :mrgreen:

The two species voted the 'weakest' were also voted the most boring. :shock:

Ghouls and Demigods are pretty far down there for both as well...

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Races I seek out:
Human, Octopode, Demonspawn, Demigod

Races I actively avoid:
Felid, Deep Dwarf, Mummy (unless I want a frustrating challenge), Troll (unless I want no challenge, but I'd still probably prefer to play Gr or Vs)

Everything else I'll play now and then if the mood strikes me.
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Klown wrote:Heyoooo. Results in the first post. Thanks for taking part again. :mrgreen:

The two species voted the 'weakest' were also voted the most boring. :shock:

Ghouls and Demigods are pretty far down there for both as well...


Well let's take care of that. Merge all four together.
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dck wrote:it's surprising people's opinions can be this wrong

TeshiAlair wrote:Looks pretty darn accurate to me actually

I love this thread. For the record, I'm more on Teshi's side - most of this looks pretty accurate to me. Glad nagas got to stay in the 4 category, even though we all know they should be 5. I'd bump a few things up or down by 1, but that's minor. About the only thing that seems wrong to me is humans at 4 - should definitely be a 2 :P But I understand a lot of people like the "plain" race and flat aptitudes, so sure.

Also, because it always bears mention, <3 octopodes. Best race ever and I finally have one that found and can cast statue form! Now if only he finds ANY resistances...seriously <.<

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I'd like to see "fun god" survey. I guess fun will not be related to power (except for Nemelex).

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I'll go ahead and do it in advance this time: sif trog atheist fedhas veh makhleb kiku lugonu oka tso jiyva zin dith xom ely ash nemelex chei yred beogh

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I honestly can't tell are you saying sif is fun or beogh is fun? Either way you are a madman

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duvessa wrote:I'll go ahead and do it in advance this time: sif trog atheist fedhas veh makhleb kiku lugonu oka tso jiyva zin dith xom ely ash nemelex chei yred beogh


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Sandman25 wrote:I'd like to see "fun god" survey. I guess fun will not be related to power (except for Nemelex).

Really? I feel like a lot of people don't find Nemelex fun at all, and do find Trog (for example) to be fun.

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Sandman25 wrote:I'd like to see "fun god" survey. I guess fun will not be related to power (except for Nemelex).

Really? I feel like a lot of people don't find Nemelex fun at all, and do find Trog (for example) to be fun.


Then my guess is wrong. I find Nemelex fun because of many random effects.

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How can Xom not be the most fun god

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Cause xom does nothing most of the time. Lots of message spam, "wow so fun". He's the only god who feels the need to let you know he's not doing anything. Does he still cast inner flame when you're fighting one yak so you have to run away from a non-threat for 50 turns (granted this is mostly because item destruction hasn't been removed yet)?

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that actually sounds pretty cool

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TheDefiniteArticle wrote:I honestly can't tell are you saying sif is fun or beogh is fun?
sif, least intrusive god
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not in stable

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duvessa wrote:sif, least intrusive god


?? "Here, have this book! Here, have this book! Oh, you'll like this one, I promise. Have this book!"
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duvessa wrote:sif, least intrusive god


?? "Here, have this book! Here, have this book! Oh, you'll like this one, I promise. Have this book!"


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Post Saturday, 17th May 2014, 16:14

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My particular favorites are Dr, VS, Ds, Mu

I really like VS because full slots, mostly neutral apts, and rapid healing means less 5ing/food clock garbage.

I would play Ds even more but its negative XP apt is stupid. Why hamstring the coolest part about the race - leveling up for mutations?

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because the mutations are very powerful, and having them too early would make the late game boringly easy.
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