[proclick] new fork, hellcrawl


If it doesn't fit anywhere else, it belongs here. Also, come here if you just need to get hammered.

Spider Stomper

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Post Tuesday, 24th October 2017, 14:22

Re: [proclick] new fork, hellcrawl

looks great all around, but I especially love the Ds mutation changes.

Ziggurat Zagger

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Post Tuesday, 24th October 2017, 17:34

Re: [proclick] new fork, hellcrawl

Damage for wand of disintegration is not displayed.
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_Purgy struggles to resist. This wand has 9 charges left.
_Purgy is blasted. This wand has 8 charges left.
_Purgy is blasted. This wand has 7 charges left.
 Purgy is blasted.
Underestimated: cleaving, Deep Elf, Formicid, Vehumet, EV
Overestimated: AC, GDS
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bel

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Post Tuesday, 24th October 2017, 22:45

Re: [proclick] new fork, hellcrawl

Hellmonk wrote:Disabled Nemelex, pending rework (unlike other god disables I want to revisit this one at some point)

I am not happy with this. Nemelex already had a rework, didn't it? What exactly was wrong with it, and was it so broken that it required disabling? If Nemelex was broken in the version, one should see a lot of Hellcrawl wins with Nemelex worship.

The only thing which I can imagine people might find "broken" is getting a deck very soon after joining. This is not fundamentally different than other gods which give you perks immediately after joining. And it can be "fixed" by simply delaying the first gift.

I know many people don't like to play with Nemelex, but there's a simple way to fix this "problem": don't worship Nem if you don't like it.

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Slime Squisher

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Post Monday, 30th October 2017, 03:54

Re: [proclick] new fork, hellcrawl

Quick halloween update:
  • You can play as a skeleton. Limited time only! They don't have a cool player tile yet; if anyone wants to design a good one and submit a pr it would be much appreciated.
  • Fixed damage display for pain and disintegration, improved messaging for dispel undead damage.
  • Merged skill targets. The merge was kind of messy so there might be bugs.
  • After a 10,000 year struggle against the demons of the void, I got zip files together for people who want to download and play offline. They are available on the releases page. If there are any problems with them, please let me know. I should be able to make them more regularly in the future. Big thanks to Implojin and Gammafunk for helping me fix some of the problems I was having.

For Nemelex I want to replace stack 5, rework some card effects (especially pentagram and some of the boring cards from deck of destruction) and increase the impact of invocations on power. I might take a stab at goldifying decks too. I don't think the balance is that far off; you're probably right that disabling Nem was overkill. I'll try to bring it back soon.

Another god rework idea I've been kicking around is merging Hep into Yred. This would finish the transition away from having a god of permanent ally spam. Yred would let you enslave a soul about when you start to receive permanent gifts now, the soul would respawn like Hep ancestor until you replace it by enslaving another one, and Yred would keep the existing non-ally-focused abilities. I need to make sure it's feasible to implement before I make a decision on whether or not to go with this though. Feel free to tell me it's a bad idea or give alternate suggestions, but I do feel like Yred is in a pretty bad spot design-wise atm so I'd like to do something there.

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Crypt Cleanser

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Post Monday, 30th October 2017, 05:32

Re: [proclick] new fork, hellcrawl

Skeleton feedback: 1) please keep bonus AC/SH for longer. Perhaps lose -1 each time you are hit or something. It tends to vanish very quickly otherwise. 2) please give like +8 stealth apt so I can scare more monsters

Temple Termagant

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Post Monday, 30th October 2017, 10:13

Re: [proclick] new fork, hellcrawl

On the offline version every time I equipped a staff the game crashed.

Slime Squisher

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Post Monday, 30th October 2017, 13:11

Re: [proclick] new fork, hellcrawl

PM me as much info about the crash as you can. The morgue file might explain why it's crashing. I couldn't reproduce it in like 2 minutes of testing but I'll have more time to try and get a fix out later today or tomorrow.

E: reproduced, I'm working on it.
E: Fixed, I think. New zips are up. Will ask for a server update, until then try to avoid examining magical staves.

Crypt Cleanser

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Post Monday, 6th November 2017, 01:08

Re: [proclick] new fork, hellcrawl

I think you made a lot of early uniques appear too deep. They're too easy now and there's never a risk where they force you to skip a level.

Spider Stomper

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Post Monday, 6th November 2017, 23:33

Re: [proclick] new fork, hellcrawl

Was WJC removed? If so, any plans on putting him back in? His skills seem like a good fit for hellcrawl given that things like heaven on earth/wall jump are more effective with more enemies to fight, and you're more likely to fight multiple enemies at once with no upstairs.

Slime Squisher

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Post Tuesday, 7th November 2017, 03:11

Re: [proclick] new fork, hellcrawl

WJC never got merged. I don't have any immediate plans to do so but I'm willing to reconsider if there's a good idea for what WJC "should" look like in a hellcrawl context. The current trunk version felt underwhelming outside of heavenly storm (which is an extremely powerful and pretty cool ability), and I was not personally a big fan of the old trunk version either. If there's a lot of interest I'd suggest digging up the old WJC threads and/or asking SteelNeuron if he's still around. Chances are there's *some* variant of WJC that I'd be willing to code or pr in.

Spider Stomper

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Post Tuesday, 7th November 2017, 15:14

Re: [proclick] new fork, hellcrawl

Got it, I don't know how a "hellcrawl flavor" WJC would look like, but ditto on heaven on earth being cool. Hopefully SteelNeuron can check this fork out.

I have some feedback on deep water (sorry if it's been mentioned already, did a quick search): depending on the layout it will occasionally allow you to heal to full by being unreachable. This might be fine considering the lack of upstairs and also going back on solid ground usually means running into the same enemies you ran away from. I also noticed you could use wands still, not sure if that's intended.

bel

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Post Wednesday, 8th November 2017, 08:14

Re: [proclick] new fork, hellcrawl

In a recent game, I found exactly 1 (one) potion of magic after clearing D, Orc, Lair Branch, Vaults, Slime, Elf, Depths and Zot (I found it in Zot). By contrast, I found about 10-15 heal wounds potions. It didn't matter much since I was playing a DESu of Sif, so I wasn't exactly short on MP often. But I don't know if I was really unlucky, or if the weights are somehow wacky.

bel

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Post Wednesday, 8th November 2017, 08:23

Re: [proclick] new fork, hellcrawl

Sif piety gain is still quite slow (or maybe it decays quite fast?). I never reached 6* (160) in my recent DESu game. Though I did use channel magic fairly often starting in Vaults (is channel really meant to cost just 1 piety?).

A random suggestion: perhaps make the piety gain based on kills instead of exploration? I don't really know why there are two kinds of piety gain mechanisms anyway. Vaults:$ was quite rough on a Su, but since you kill a ton of monsters, the piety gain using the former mechanism would likely get it all back. Sif is pretty good anyway, so no real issues either way.

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Post Thursday, 9th November 2017, 13:51

Re: [proclick] new fork, hellcrawl

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 Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 5.1-80-g04056d8 (webtiles) character file.

43226582 kroki the Phalangite (level 27, 297/297 HPs)
             Began as a Merfolk Skald on Nov 9, 2017.
             Was the Champion of Okawaru.
             Escaped with the Orb
             ... and 4 runes!
             
             The game lasted 01:37:14 (39905 turns).

kroki the Phalangite (Merfolk Skald)               Turns: 39905, Time: 01:37:15

Health: 297/297    AC: 37 (39%)Str: 28  XL:     27
Magic:  17/18      EV: 39    Int: 43    God:    Okawaru [6*[200]]
Gold:   1044       SH:  0    Dex: 29    Spells: 5/52 levels left

rFire    + . .     SeeInvis .   K - +13 scythe of Curses {drain}
rCold    + . .     Faith    +   (shield currently unavailable)
rNeg     + . .     Spirit   .   (armour currently unavailable)
rPois    ∞         Reflect  .   Y - +2 hat of the Dwarven Hall {MP+9 Int+9 Dex-5}
rElec    +                      D - +5 cloak "Sopneok" {Int+5 Stlth+}
rCorr    .                      (gloves currently unavailable)
MR       ++...                  (boots currently unavailable)
Stlth    ++++++++++             C - amulet of Qenuinu {Faith Str+2 Int+4 Dex+2}
Regen    1.5/turn               L - ring of Shadows {Umbra Dex+13}
MPRegen  0.3/turn               I - ring "Zumimumin" {Wiz rElec rF+ rC+, =R}

@: mighty, brilliant, statue-form (expiring), regenerating, hasted, wreathed by
umbra, deflect missiles, spectral weapon
A: (change form in water), (swift swim), (stealthy swim), beak, claws 1, agile,
clever, mutation resistance 1, repel shadows
0: Orb of Zot
}: 4/15 runes: barnacled, slimy, silver, bone
a: End Regeneration, Stop Singing, End Haste, End Spectral Weapon, Stop
Repelling Missiles, End Transformation, Finesse, Renounce Religion


You were on level 0 of Tartarus.
You worshipped Okawaru.
Okawaru was exalted by your worship.
You were not hungry.

You were a stone statue.

You visited 9 branches of the dungeon, and saw 43 of its levels.
You also visited: Sewer and Elven Halls.

You collected 6832 gold pieces.
You spent 5788 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Hand Weapons
 c - a +9 demon trident of freezing
   (You took it off a merfolk impaler on level 3 of the Shoals)
 m - the +8 glaive of the Guard {elec, +Rage AC+5 SInv}
   (Okawaru gifted it to you on level 3 of the Shoals)   
   
   Occasionally, upon striking a foe, it will discharge some electrical energy
   and cause terrible harm.
   
   It affects your AC (+5).
   It lets you see invisible.
   It lets you go berserk.
 F - the +4 bardiche of the Walnut {vamp, rN+ MR+ Stlth-}
   (You found it on level 3 of the Vaults)   
   
   It inflicts no extra harm, but heals its wielder somewhat when it strikes a
   living foe.
   
   It protects you from negative energy.
   It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments.
   It makes you less stealthy.
 K - the +13 scythe of Curses (weapon) {drain}
   (You found it on level 5 of the Realm of Zot)   
   
   A truly terrible weapon, it drains the life of those it strikes.
Missiles
 f - 59 javelins (quivered)
Armour
 r - a +2 cloak of magic resistance
   (Okawaru gifted it to you on level 3 of the Vaults)
 D - the +5 cloak "Sopneok" (worn) {Int+5 Stlth+}
   (Okawaru gifted it to you on level 3 of the Vaults)   
   
   It affects your intelligence (+5).
   It makes you more stealthy.
 E - a +2 pair of boots of stealth (melded)
   (You found it on level 8 of the Dungeon)
 J - the +1 robe of Jump Scares (melded) {+Blink Int+5}
   (You found it on level 1 of the Orcish Mines)   
   
   It affects your intelligence (+5).
   It lets you blink.
 T - a +2 pair of gloves of dexterity (melded)
   (You found it on level 3 of the Vaults)
 Y - the +2 hat of the Dwarven Hall (worn) {MP+9 Int+9 Dex-5}
   (You acquired it on level 1 of the Vaults)   
   
   It affects your intelligence (+9).
   It affects your dexterity (-5).
   It affects your magic capacity (+9).
Jewellery
 h - the ring of Robustness {AC+8}
   (You found it on level 3 of the Vaults)   
   
   [ring of protection]
   
   It affects your AC (+8).
 k - the ring "Jirhiterch" {*Drain rF+ Str+3 SInv}
   (You found it on level 4 of the Realm of Zot)   
   
   [ring of strength]
   
   It affects your strength (+3).
   It protects you from fire.
   It lets you see invisible.
   It causes draining when unequipped.
 u - the ring of Downet {rPois rF+ AC+3 Dex+4}
   (You bought it in a shop on level 2 of the Depths)   
   
   [ring of protection]
   
   It affects your AC (+3).
   It affects your dexterity (+4).
   It protects you from fire.
   It protects you from poison.
 C - the amulet of Qenuinu (around neck) {Faith Str+2 Int+4 Dex+2}
   (You found it in the Elven Halls)   
   
   [amulet of faith]
   
   It allows you to gain divine favour quickly.
   It affects your strength (+2).
   It affects your intelligence (+4).
   It affects your dexterity (+2).
 G - a +3 ring of protection
   (You found it on level 7 of Tartarus)
 I - the ring "Zumimumin" (right claw) {Wiz rElec rF+ rC+, =R}
   (You found it on level 4 of the Pits of Slime)   
   
   [ring of wizardry]
   
   It improves your spell success rate.
   It protects you from fire.
   It protects you from cold.
   It insulates you from electricity.
 L - the ring of Shadows (left claw) {Umbra Dex+13}
   (You found it on level 3 of the Vaults)   
   
   [ring of evasion]
   
   It affects your dexterity (+13).
 M - the ring of Understanding {Ice rF+ Dex+4}
   (You found it in the Elven Halls)   
   
   [ring of ice]
   
   It enhances your ice magic.
   It affects your dexterity (+4).
   It protects you from fire.
   It protects you from cold.
Wands
 b - a wand of digging (18)
 d - a wand of confusion (8)
 t - a wand of iceblast (21)
 R - a wand of scattershot (4)
 V - a wand of clouds (6)
Scrolls
 i - 8 scrolls of blinking {!r}
 j - 8 scrolls of enchant weapon
 y - a scroll of silence
 N - 2 scrolls of fog
 O - 9 scrolls of teleportation
 P - 3 scrolls of holy word {!r}
 Q - a scroll of amnesia
 S - 4 scrolls of immolation {!r}
 X - a scroll of fear
Potions
 e - 15 potions of curing
 g - 4 potions of mutation
 l - 5 potions of resistance
 n - a potion of haste
 p - 8 potions of heal wounds
 s - 2 potions of magic
 w - a potion of lignification
 x - 6 potions of ambrosia
 z - 4 potions of cancellation
 B - 6 potions of flight
 U - 3 potions of invisibility
Miscellaneous
 a - 2 sacks of spiders
 o - a phial of floods
   (You found it on level 8 of the Dungeon)
 v - the horn of Geryon
   (You took it off Geryon in the Vestibule of Hell)
 A - 2 phantom mirrors
 H - a disc of storms
   (You found it in the Elven Halls)
 W - 3 boxes of beasts
 Z - a fan of gales
   (You found it in the Elven Halls)


   Skills:
 - Level 21.4(26.4) Fighting
 - Level 24.2(27) Polearms
 - Level 0.6(5.6) Armour
 - Level 23.8(27) Dodging
 - Level 7.1(12.1) Stealth
 - Level 2.1(7.1) Shields
 - Level 13.2 Spellcasting
 - Level 21.4 Charms
 - Level 21.5 Summonings
 - Level 14.7 Transmutations
 - Level 6.2 Ice Magic
 - Level 10.0 Earth Magic
 - Level 6.5 Invocations
 + Level 12.3 Evocations


You had 5 spell levels left.
You knew the following spells:

 Your Spells              Type           Power        Failure   Level  Hunger
b - Statue Form           Tmut/Erth      103 (150)    1%          6    N/A
c - Deflect Missiles      Chrm/Air       98 (200)     1%          6    N/A
d - Shadow Creatures      Summ           N/A          0%          6    N/A
e - Summon Horrible Thin  Summ           126 (200)    1%          8    N/A
h - Haste                 Chrm           126 (200)    1%          9    N/A
r - Regeneration          Chrm/Necr      98 (200)     1%          3    N/A
s - Swiftness             Chrm/Air       98 (100)     0%          2    N/A
z - Spectral Weapon       Chrm/Summ      100 (100)    0%          5    N/A
S - Song of Slaying       Chrm           100 (100)    0%          2    N/A


Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (15/15)            Shoals (3/3) Orc:2         Slime (4/4) Orc:2 Vaults:3
    Orc (2/2) D:15         Vaults (3/3) D:15 Shoals:3 Depths (3/3) D:15 Slime:4 Vaults:3
   Hell (1/1)                 Tar (7/7) Hell            Zot (5/5) Depths:3
 Snake: Orc:2       Spider: Orc:2          Dis: Hell:1         Geh: Hell:1
   Coc: Hell:1     

Altars:
Cheibriados
Dithmenos
Elyvilon
Gozag
Hepliaklqana
Jiyva
Kikubaaqudgha
Makhleb
Okawaru
Qazlal
Ru
Sif Muna
Trog
Uskayaw
Vehumet
Xom
Yredelemnul
Zin
The Shining One

Shops:
Orc:2 *}}*   Vaults:1 !   Vaults:2 :   Vaults:3 [   Depths:1 :   Depths:2 =

Portals:
Hell: Zot:5
Pandemonium: Depths:3

Annotations:
D:8 3 runed doors
Shoals:1 Louise
Slime:2 exclusion: azure jelly
Slime:3 exclusion: great orb of eyes
Tar:6 29 runed doors


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

((You revert to your normal form in water.))
((You are very nimble and swift while swimming.))
((You are very stealthy in the water.))
You have a beak for a mouth.
You have sharp fingernails.
You are agile. (Dex +5)
Your mind is acute. (Int +5)
You are somewhat resistant to further mutation.
Shadows flee at your approach. (+LOS)


Message History

The iron dragon skeleton completely misses you.
You take 7 damage, and have 237/297 hp.
You fracture the iron dragon skeleton into splinters (43)!!!
Your large abomination disappears in a puff of smoke!
Your tentacled monstrosity tentacle-slaps the reaper (5). x2
Your tentacled monstrosity completely misses the reaper.
Your tentacled monstrosity grabs the reaper.
Your tentacled monstrosity constricts the reaper (2).
The reaper completely misses you.
You completely miss the iron dragon skeleton.
You peck the iron dragon skeleton (11)! The iron dragon skeleton bites you (9)!
The iron dragon skeleton completely misses you. x2
Your large abomination completely misses the iron dragon skeleton.
You feel a terrible foreboding...
Unknown command.
You take 8 damage, and have 230/297 hp.
You slice the iron dragon skeleton (28)!!
You destroy the iron dragon skeleton!
Okawaru accepts your kill.
Your large abomination hits the reaper but does no damage.
Your tentacled monstrosity tentacle-slaps the reaper (12)!
Your tentacled monstrosity tentacle-slaps the reaper (3).
Your tentacled monstrosity tentacle-slaps the reaper but does no damage.
Your tentacled monstrosity constricts the reaper (6).
The reaper completely misses you.
Your large abomination hits the reaper (7)!
The reaper closely misses you.
Your tentacled monstrosity tentacle-slaps the reaper (4). x2
Your tentacled monstrosity tentacle-slaps the reaper (9)!
Your tentacled monstrosity constricts the reaper (2).
You strike the helpless reaper from behind!
You chop the reaper into pieces (95)!!!!
You kill the reaper!
Okawaru accepts your kill.
Your large abomination disappears in a puff of smoke!
You regained 2 hp, and now have 236/297 hp.
A reaper comes into view.
The reaper misses you.
You regained 2 hp, and now have 239/297 hp.
You chop the reaper into pieces (42)!!! Your peck misses the reaper.
Your spectral weapon hits the reaper from afar (8)!
You barely miss the reaper. You peck the reaper, but do no damage.
Your spectral weapon barely misses the reaper.
The reaper completely misses you.
You slash the reaper (16)!
Your spectral weapon hits the reaper from afar (8)!
The reaper closely misses your spectral weapon.
You slice the reaper (30)!!
You kill the reaper!
Okawaru accepts your kill.
You regained 2 hp, and now have 248/297 hp.
Your large abomination disappears in a puff of smoke!
You regained 2 hp, and now have 251/297 hp.
Your spectral weapon fades away.
A reaper comes into view.
You regained 2 hp, and now have 255/297 hp.
The reaper barely misses you.
You regained 2 hp, and now have 259/297 hp.
You draw out your weapon's spirit! You cut the reaper into ribbons (48)!!!
Your peck misses the reaper.
Your large abomination disappears in a puff of smoke!
The reaper hits you but does no damage.
You slice the reaper (21)!! You peck the reaper, but do no damage.
Your spectral weapon hits the reaper from afar (10)!
You kill the reaper!
Okawaru accepts your kill.
You regained 2 hp, and now have 262/297 hp.
Your tentacled monstrosity seems to return to its normal shape.
You open the door.
Your tentacled monstrosity disappears in a puff of smoke!
Found 50 gold pieces.
Found a staircase leading out of the dungeon.
You regained 2 hp, and now have 265/297 hp.
There is an open door here.
Unknown command.
You now have 903 gold pieces (gained 43).
You regained 3 hp, and now have 269/297 hp.
Your large abomination disappears in a puff of smoke!
You now have 910 gold pieces (gained 7).
You regained 3 hp, and now have 272/297 hp.
There is a staircase leading out of the dungeon here.
You now have 940 gold pieces (gained 30).
You regained 3 hp, and now have 276/297 hp.
You now have 955 gold pieces (gained 15).
You regained 3 hp, and now have 279/297 hp.
You now have 971 gold pieces (gained 16).
You regained 2 hp, and now have 281/297 hp.
You now have 988 gold pieces (gained 17).
You regained 3 hp, and now have 284/297 hp.
You swap places.
You regained 2 hp, and now have 287/297 hp.
You now have 1028 gold pieces (gained 40).
You regained 2 hp, and now have 289/297 hp.
You now have 1044 gold pieces (gained 16).
You regained 3 hp, and now have 292/297 hp.
MP restored: 17
You regained 2 hp, and now have 294/297 hp.
You feel very mighty all of a sudden. You feel clever all of a sudden.
There is a staircase leading out of the dungeon here.
You have escaped!

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You could see a friendly spectral scythe of Curses {drain}.

Vanquished Creatures
  the Combo Robin (Zot:2)
  the Royal Jelly (Slime:4)
  Ereshkigal (Tar:7)
  A seraph (Hell)
  3 orbs of fire
  4 ancient liches
  A greater mummy (Depths:3)
  10 pandemonium lords
  6 Killer Klowns
  3 cool robins
  Saint Roka (Vaults:2)
  An acid robin (Zot:1)
  2 elevengus (Hell)
  11 diesel robins
  7 golden dragons
  Geryon (Hell)
  2 THE GIAGGOSTUONOs
  A curse toe (Zot:1)
  13 Shadow Fiends
  7 bone dragons
  2 doom hounds
  3 antimatter elves (Zot:2)
  5 electric golems
  A Brimstone Fiend (Tar:4)
  3 zotbots
  2 Ice Fiends (Tar:7)
  4 giant giants
  Rupert (D:15)
  3 Hell Sentinels (Tar:7)
  39 Orb Guardians
  2 deep elf blademasters (Elf)
  5 liches
  6 ghost robins (Zot:2)
  6 quicksilver dragons
  4 deep elf master archers (Elf)
  2 titans
  3 Executioners
  2 sphinxes
  14 acid blobs
  2 ancient champions
  2 subtractor snakes
  14 death cobs
  4 plutonium crabs
  2 Orb Childs
  3 tentacled monstrosities (Vaults:3)
  7 iron trolls
  2 storm dragons (Vaults:3)
  Ilsuiw (Shoals:3)
  3 azure jellies (Slime:4)
  7 tengu reavers (Vaults:3)
  7 ghost moths
  4 shadow dragons
  8 fire giants
  A daeva (Hell)
  4 deep elf sorcerers
  16 vault wardens
  10 frost giants
  An imperial myrmidon (Vaults:3)
  3 balrugs
  A cacodemon (Tar:5)
  2 deep elf elementalists (Elf)
  An angel (Hell)
  2 orc warlords (Vaults:3)
  4 ironheart preservers
  24 reapers
  2 spriggan defenders (Depths:2)
  13 stone giants
  An acid robin skeleton (Depths:2)
  4 war gargoyles
  10 very ugly things
  5 mutatatotots
  4 revenants
  3 vampire knights
  3 deep elf demonologists (Elf)
  3 deep elf annihilators (Elf)
  3 halazid warlocks
  2 spectral titans (Tar:7)
  Snorg (Orc:2)
  A quicksilver dragon zombie (Tar:5)
  5 merfolk javelineers (Shoals:3)
  A blizzard demon (Hell)
  A crystal guardian (Vaults:2)
  4 death oozes (Slime:4)
  9 deep elf death magi
  15 ettins
  3 deep elf high priests (Elf)
  3 jiangshi
  Josephine (D:13)
  A green death (Depths:3)
  A fire dragon (Depths:3)
  A mummy priest (Depths:2)
  6 merfolk impalers
  13 yaktaur captains
  7 great orbs of eyes
  3 hydras
  3 ice dragons
  26 vault guards
  9 two-headed ogres
  An acid robin simulacrum (Depths:2)
  3 hell beasts
  5 merfolk aquamancers
  2 silent spectres
  2 rakshasas
  An alligator snapping turtle (Shoals:2)
  A ghost crab (Tar:5)
  4 eidola
  5 ogre magi
  14 centaur warriors
  3 satyrs (Shoals:3)
  6 death yaks (Depths:2)
  7 deep troll shamans
  2 vampire magi
  A titan zombie (Tar:4)
  5 deep troll earth magi
  A spriggan berserker (Depths:3)
  7 sun demons
  2 orc high priests (D:13)
  3 titan skeletons
  8 hell hogs (Hell)
  5 death scarabs (Depths:1)
  2 storm dragon zombies (Depths:2)
  5 deep elf knights
  10 soul eaters
  A hell knight (Vaults:3)
  23 skeletal warriors
  6 sixfirhies
  18 deep trolls
  A flayed ghost (Vaults:1)
  A spark wasp zombie (Depths:2)
  2 cherubim (Hell)
  A golden dragon zombie (Tar:5)
  11 sea snakes
  3 death drakes
  A shadow dragon zombie (Tar:7)
  An anaconda zombie (Tar:5)
  An obsidian statue (Vaults:2)
  4 wizards
  3 phantasmal warriors (Vaults:3)
  6 deep elf archers
  12 shadow demons
  6 harpies (Shoals:3)
  A golden dragon skeleton (Depths:2)
  9 ironbrand convokers
  A wolf spider (D:15)
  8 ugly things
  A tengu skeleton (Depths:2)
  6 orc knights
  2 wolf spider zombies (D:13)
  A fire giant zombie (Tar:2)
  A shadow dragon skeleton (Tar:5)
  4 necromancers
  9 orc sorcerers
  22 zotlings
  A frost giant zombie (Depths:2)
  19 deep elf magi
  10 manticores
  A sphinx skeleton (Vaults:1)
  A hornet (Vaults:1)
  27 fauns
  3 shining eyes (Slime:4)
  9 cyclopes
  2 iron dragon skeletons (Tar:7)
  17 moths of wrath
  12 rust devils
  4 black mambas
  3 eyes of devastation (Slime:4)
  2 guardian serpents (shapeshifter)
  3 stone giant skeletons
  10 sirens
  A water nymph (Shoals:2)
  2 spiny frogs
  9 vault sentinels
  3 gargoyles
  8 hellions
  A spectral swamp worm (Tar:7)
  6 smoke demons
  4 orange demons
  6 freezing wraiths
  3 efreet
  A kobold demonologist (D:15)
  9 ice devils
  34 yaktaurs
  A demonic crawler (Tar:7)
  A spark wasp simulacrum (Depths:2)
  6 tormentors
  8 hellwings
  An anaconda simulacrum (Hell)
  A hydra zombie (Hell)
  A spriggan skeleton (Depths:2)
  23 merfolk
  A queen bee (shapeshifter) (Vaults:3)
  A harpy skeleton (Tar:6)
  10 trolls
  A polar bear (shapeshifter) (Vaults:3)
  7 wind drakes
  2 hydra skeletons
  Prince Ribbit (D:6)
  23 slime creatures
  8 blink frogs
  4 alligator zombies
  An ice dragon zombie (Tar:7)
  10 snapping turtles
  3 stone giant simulacra (Depths:2)
  6 dream sheep (Shoals:3)
  2 vampires
  A shapeshifter (Vaults:1)
  2 ynoxinuls
  A black mamba zombie (D:9)
  2 spriggans (Depths:2)
  7 wyverns
  3 wraiths (D:13)
  6 yaks
  4 large abominations
  2 shadows
  12 water elementals
  4 angry ghosts
  A human simulacrum (Vaults:1)
  2 black mamba skeletons
  5 chaos spawn
  A golden eye (Slime:4)
  2 humans (shapeshifter)
  A neqoxec (Hell)
  2 steam dragons
  Edmund (D:6)
  8 wargs
  Menkaure (D:6)
  6 acid dragons
  5 hell hounds
  3 water moccasins
  2 soldier ants (shapeshifter)
  A soldier ant (D:8)
  A floating eye (Depths:3)
  49 orc warriors
  A black bear (shapeshifter) (Vaults:1)
  5 wasps
  2 spiny frog skeletons
  An eye of draining (Slime:1)
  3 human zombies
  4 ice beasts
  A blink frog zombie (D:9)
  A snapping turtle zombie (Tar:7)
  13 ogres
  3 phantoms
  A human skeleton (Vaults:1)
  A blink frog skeleton (D:9)
  A boggart (Vaults:2)
  39 centaurs
  A rime drake zombie (D:5)
  2 big kobolds (D:15)
  3 bullfrogs
  4 wyvern zombies
  4 scorpions
  A wyvern skeleton (D:4)
  5 wights
  7 crimson imps
  11 killer bees
  2 howler monkeys
  A wasp zombie (D:6)
  4 centaur zombies
  4 hounds
  2 quasits
  10 centaur skeletons
  23 orc priests
  A bullfrog skeleton (D:6)
  10 jellies
  26 orc wizards
  13 worker ants
  2 hound zombies (D:6)
  5 gnolls
  19 adders
  4 shadow imps
  4 white imps
  2 ufetubi
  6 oozes
  3 dart slugs
  84 orcs
  8 quokkas
  20 giant cockroaches
  2 gnoll zombies (D:2)
  5 goblins
  2 hobgoblins (D:3)
  20 ball pythons
  13 bats
  13 frilled lizards
  5 kobolds
  2 quokka skeletons
  10 rats
  2 butterflies (D:8)
  2 plants (Shoals:3)
  A spectral weapon (Shoals:2)
1669 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (collateral kills)
  2 ancient liches (Zot:5)
  2 cool robins (Zot:3)
  A diesel robin (Zot:2)
  A THE GIAGGOSTUONO (Zot:3)
  A bone dragon (Tar:7)
  An antimatter elf (Zot:2)
  An electric golem (Zot:3)
  2 Orb Guardians
  An Ice Fiend (Tar:7)
  A lich (Hell)
  A quicksilver dragon (Zot:2)
  A tentacled monstrosity (Tar:7)
  2 death cobs
  3 plutonium crabs
  2 shadow dragons
  4 reapers
  3 mutatatotots
  A lorocyproca (Tar:7)
  A blizzard demon (Hell)
  A merfolk impaler (Shoals:3)
  A jiangshi (Depths:2)
  A vampire mage (Depths:3)
  A hell hog (Hell)
  A sun demon (Hell)
  Sonja (Orc:2)
  3 soul eaters
  A storm dragon zombie (Tar:2)
  A sixfirhy (Tar:4)
  A cherub (Tar:4)
  A skeletal warrior (Tar:4)
  A deep troll (Depths:3)
  A flayed ghost (Depths:3)
  An anaconda skeleton (Hell)
  4 zotlings
  A dire elephant zombie (Tar:6)
  3 rust devils
  An orange demon (Hell)
  2 smoke demons
  A hellion (Tar:7)
  2 yaktaurs (Depths:3)
  4 ice devils
  2 merfolk (Shoals:3)
  2 hydra zombies (Hell)
  2 chaos spawn
  3 neqoxecs
  A small abomination (Tar:7)
  An alligator simulacrum (Hell)
  2 crimson imps (Hell)
  A quasit (Tar:7)
  An iron imp (Tar:7)
  3 ufetubi
83 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (others)
  An Orb Guardian (Tar:4)
  An eldritch tentacle (Tar:4)
  A ghost moth (Zot:1)
  A lorocyproca (Tar:6)
  An unseen horror (D:14)
  A deep elf mage (Vaults:3)
  A smoke demon (Hell)
  2 blocks of ice (Hell)
  86 plants (Shoals:3)
  95 spectral weapons
190 creatures vanquished.

Grand Total: 1942 creatures vanquished

Notes
Turn   | Place    | Note
-------+----------+-------------------------------------------
     0 | D:1      | kroki the Merfolk Skald began the quest for the Orb.
     0 | D:1      | Reached XP level 1. HP: 16/16 MP: 3/3
   233 | D:1      | Reached skill level 4 in Polearms
   233 | D:1      | Reached XP level 2. HP: 17/22 MP: 0/4
   372 | D:1      | Learned a level 2 spell: Song of Slaying
   571 | D:1      | Reached XP level 3. HP: 27/27 MP: 1/3
   628 | D:1      | Reached skill level 5 in Polearms
  1176 | D:2      | Found a snail-covered altar of Cheibriados.
  1287 | D:2      | Found a white marble altar of Elyvilon.
  1644 | D:2      | Found a faded altar of an unknown god.
  1725 | D:2      | Found a basalt altar of Yredelemnul.
  1828 | D:2      | Found a hazy altar of Hepliaklqana.
  1830 | D:2      | Found an iron altar of Okawaru.
  1876 | D:2      | Became a worshipper of Warmaster Okawaru
  1921 | D:2      | Learned a level 3 spell: Regeneration
  2075 | D:3      | Found a stormy altar of Qazlal.
  2145 | D:3      | Found a glowing silver altar of Zin.
  2150 | D:3      | Reached XP level 4. HP: 33/33 MP: 1/4
  2155 | D:3      | Reached skill level 6 in Polearms
  2155 | D:3      | Reached skill level 2 in Dodging
  2159 | D:3      | Found an opulent altar of Gozag.
  2259 | D:3      | Found a glowing drain.
  2274 | Sewer    | Entered a sewer
  2360 | Sewer    | Reached XP level 5. HP: 39/39 MP: 3/5
  2474 | Sewer    | Reached skill level 3 in Dodging
  2640 | Sewer    | Reached skill level 3 in Fighting
  2642 | Sewer    | Reached skill level 7 in Polearms
  2642 | Sewer    | Reached XP level 6. HP: 47/47 MP: 4/6
  2704 | Sewer    | Reached * piety under Okawaru
  2704 | Sewer    | Reached skill level 4 in Charms
  2823 | D:3      | Found a shadowy altar of Dithmenos.
  3209 | D:3      | Reached skill level 4 in Dodging
  3474 | D:4      | Reached skill level 4 in Fighting
  3474 | D:4      | Reached XP level 7. HP: 54/54 MP: 2/2
  3561 | D:4      | Reached skill level 8 in Polearms
  3566 | D:4      | Reached skill level 5 in Charms
  3579 | D:4      | Reached ** piety under Okawaru
  3579 | D:4      | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging
  3686 | D:4      | Found a viscous altar of Jiyva.
  3723 | D:4      | Reached XP level 8. HP: 48/61 MP: 0/3
  4168 | D:5      | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
  4175 | D:5      | Found a bloodstained altar of Trog.
  4225 | D:5      | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting
  4732 | D:5      | Reached skill level 9 in Polearms
  4732 | D:5      | Reached skill level 6 in Dodging
  5105 | D:6      | Reached skill level 1 in Shields
  5105 | D:6      | Reached skill level 6 in Charms
  5239 | D:6      | Noticed Menkaure
  5258 | D:6      | Killed Menkaure
  5258 | D:6      | Reached skill level 7 in Dodging
  5258 | D:6      | Reached XP level 9. HP: 69/69 MP: 0/4
  5284 | D:6      | Noticed Edmund
  5305 | D:6      | Killed Edmund
  5305 | D:6      | Reached *** piety under Okawaru
  5305 | D:6      | Reached skill level 6 in Fighting
  5305 | D:6      | Reached skill level 2 in Shields
  5312 | D:6      | Learned a level 4 spell: Ozocubu's Armour
  5327 | D:6      | Noticed Prince Ribbit
  5342 | D:6      | Killed Prince Ribbit
  5342 | D:6      | Reached skill level 1 in Ice Magic
  5389 | D:6      | Reached skill level 10 in Polearms
  5438 | D:6      | Reached skill level 2 in Ice Magic
  5491 | D:6      | Reached skill level 7 in Charms
  5522 | D:6      | Found a shimmering altar of Xom.
  5708 | D:6      | Found a burning altar of Makhleb.
  5708 | D:6      | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha.
  5917 | D:6      | Found a deep blue altar of Sif Muna.
  5971 | D:6      | Found a hide-covered altar of Uskayaw.
  6163 | D:6      | Reached skill level 8 in Dodging
  6473 | D:7      | Reached skill level 3 in Ice Magic
  6480 | D:7      | Reached skill level 7 in Fighting
  6480 | D:7      | Reached skill level 1 in Summonings
  6610 | D:7      | Reached **** piety under Okawaru
  6668 | D:7      | Found a radiant altar of Vehumet.
  6802 | D:7      | Found a glowing golden altar of the Shining One.
  6818 | D:7      | Reached XP level 10. HP: 79/79 MP: 1/6
  7037 | D:7      | Found a sacrificial altar of Ru.
  7497 | D:8      | Reached skill level 2 in Summonings
  7550 | D:8      | Reached skill level 4 in Ice Magic
  7570 | D:8      | Found a large runed door.
  7570 | D:8      | Found a large runed door.
  7604 | D:8      | Found a large runed door.
  7605 | D:8      | Found a large runed door.
  7815 | D:8      | Reached skill level 8 in Charms
  8168 | D:8      | Found a runed door.
  8181 | D:8      | Found a runed door.
  8353 | D:8      | Reached skill level 5 in Ice Magic
  8429 | D:8      | Reached skill level 3 in Summonings
  8511 | D:8      | Reached skill level 9 in Dodging
  8511 | D:8      | Reached skill level 3 in Spellcasting
  8700 | D:8      | Learned a level 5 spell: Spectral Weapon
  8876 | D:8      | Noticed a centaur warrior
  8896 | D:8      | Killed a centaur warrior
  8896 | D:8      | Reached ***** piety under Okawaru
  8896 | D:8      | Reached skill level 8 in Fighting
  9266 | D:9      | Noticed a spiny frog
  9296 | D:9      | Killed a spiny frog
  9296 | D:9      | Reached XP level 11. HP: 86/86 MP: 0/6
  9302 | D:9      | Reached skill level 4 in Summonings
  9307 | D:9      | Learned a level 2 spell: Repel Missiles
  9475 | D:9      | Reached skill level 6 in Ice Magic
 10225 | D:10     | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon
 10416 | D:10     | Reached skill level 9 in Charms
 10455 | D:10     | Reached skill level 10 in Dodging
 10630 | D:10     | Noticed an orc sorcerer
 10636 | D:10     | Killed an orc sorcerer
 10658 | D:10     | Reached ****** piety under Okawaru
 10658 | D:10     | Reached skill level 5 in Summonings
 10727 | D:10     | Reached skill level 9 in Fighting
 10885 | D:10     | Received a gift from Okawaru
 11259 | D:10     | Gained mutation: You occasionally shout uncontrollably at your foes. [potion of mutation]
 11259 | D:10     | Gained mutation: You have a pair of small antennae on your head. [potion of mutation]
 11260 | D:10     | Lost mutation: You occasionally shout uncontrollably at your foes. [potion of mutation]
 11260 | D:10     | Lost mutation: You have a pair of small antennae on your head. [potion of mutation]
 11260 | D:10     | Gained mutation: Your spells are a little easier to cast, but a little less powerful. [potion of mutation]
 11260 | D:10     | Gained mutation: Armour fits poorly on your strangely shaped body. [potion of mutation]
 11260 | D:10     | Gained mutation: Your system is resistant to poisons. (rPois) [potion of mutation]
 11260 | D:10     | Gained mutation: You have sharp fingernails. [potion of mutation]
 11261 | D:10     | Lost mutation: Armour fits poorly on your strangely shaped body. [potion of mutation]
 11261 | D:10     | Lost mutation: Your spells are a little easier to cast, but a little less powerful. [potion of mutation]
 11261 | D:10     | Lost mutation: Your system is resistant to poisons. (rPois) [potion of mutation]
 11261 | D:10     | Gained mutation: You have a beak for a mouth. [potion of mutation]
 11261 | D:10     | Gained mutation: Your mind is acute. (Int +5) [potion of mutation]
 11261 | D:10     | Gained mutation: You are somewhat resistant to further mutation. [potion of mutation]
 11261 | D:10     | Gained mutation: You are agile. (Dex +5) [potion of mutation]
 11380 | D:11     | Noticed a nine-headed hydra
 11390 | D:11     | Killed a nine-headed hydra
 11616 | D:11     | Noticed a two-headed ogre
 11629 | D:11     | Killed a two-headed ogre
 11629 | D:11     | Reached skill level 11 in Dodging
 11629 | D:11     | Reached skill level 6 in Summonings
 11782 | D:11     | Got the +5 scale mail of Uhaov {Int+2}
 11835 | D:11     | Reached XP level 12. HP: 97/97 MP: 6/6
 11957 | D:11     | Reached skill level 1 in Stealth
 11957 | D:11     | Reached skill level 1 in Invocations
 12282 | D:12     | Reached skill level 1 in Evocations
 12324 | D:12     | Reached skill level 10 in Fighting
 12332 | D:12     | Reached skill level 2 in Invocations
 12471 | D:12     | Reached skill level 2 in Stealth
 12504 | D:12     | Reached skill level 2 in Evocations
 12660 | D:12     | Reached skill level 3 in Stealth
 12872 | D:12     | Reached skill level 3 in Invocations
 13150 | D:12     | Reached skill level 3 in Evocations
 13312 | D:13     | Noticed an orc high priest
 13325 | D:13     | Killed an orc high priest
 13325 | D:13     | Reached skill level 4 in Stealth
 13341 | D:13     | Reached skill level 4 in Invocations
 13416 | D:13     | Noticed a centaur warrior
 13440 | D:13     | Killed a centaur warrior
 13440 | D:13     | Reached skill level 12 in Dodging
 13484 | D:13     | Noticed Josephine
 13518 | D:13     | Killed Josephine
 13518 | D:13     | Received a gift from Okawaru
 13518 | D:13     | Reached skill level 5 in Stealth
 13602 | D:13     | Reached skill level 4 in Evocations
 13745 | D:13     | Reached XP level 13. HP: 87/105 MP: 1/1
 13800 | D:13     | Reached skill level 11 in Fighting
 13800 | D:13     | Reached skill level 5 in Invocations
 14184 | D:13     | Reached skill level 6 in Stealth
 14552 | D:14     | Reached skill level 5 in Evocations
 14641 | D:14     | Reached skill level 6 in Invocations
 14822 | D:14     | Reached skill level 13 in Dodging
 15086 | D:14     | Reached skill level 7 in Stealth
 15234 | D:15     | Entered Level 15 of the Dungeon
 15332 | D:15     | Found a staircase to the Depths.
 15332 | D:15     | Noticed a yaktaur captain
 15355 | D:15     | Killed a yaktaur captain
 15363 | D:15     | Reached skill level 11 in Polearms
 15478 | D:15     | Received a gift from Okawaru
 15485 | D:15     | Reached skill level 12 in Polearms
 15486 | D:15     | Got the +1 scale mail of Mezcal {MR+ Dex+4}
 15563 | D:15     | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines.
 15683 | D:15     | Noticed Rupert
 15696 | D:15     | Killed Rupert
 15696 | D:15     | Reached skill level 13 in Polearms
 15696 | D:15     | Reached XP level 14. HP: 114/114 MP: 2/2
 15833 | D:15     | Reached skill level 14 in Polearms
 16013 | D:15     | Reached skill level 15 in Polearms
 16120 | D:15     | Reached skill level 10 in Charms
 16264 | D:15     | Found a gate to the Vaults.
 16287 | D:15     | Reached skill level 12 in Fighting
 16450 | Orc:1    | Entered Level 1 of the Orcish Mines
 16466 | Orc:1    | Noticed a stone giant
 16485 | Orc:1    | Killed a stone giant
 16745 | Orc:1    | Received a gift from Okawaru
 16827 | Orc:1    | Got the +1 robe of Jump Scares {+Blink Int+5}
 17324 | Orc:2    | Entered Level 2 of the Orcish Mines
 17333 | Orc:2    | Noticed Sonja
 17336 | Orc:2    | Killed Sonja
 17494 | Orc:2    | Found a staircase to the Shoals.
 17673 | Orc:2    | Noticed Snorg
 17692 | Orc:2    | Killed Snorg
 17692 | Orc:2    | Reached skill level 14 in Dodging
 17692 | Orc:2    | Reached skill level 11 in Charms
 17827 | Orc:2    | Found a staircase to the Slime Pits.
 18279 | Orc:2    | Found Vaot's Gadget Boutique.
 18279 | Orc:2    | Found Garulaev's Gadget Emporium.
 18279 | Orc:2    | Found Sarepsat's General Store.
 18281 | Orc:2    | Reached XP level 15. HP: 96/122 MP: 4/4
 18345 | Orc:2    | Found Nyvamm's Assorted Antiques.
 18559 | Orc:2    | Found a burning altar of Makhleb.
 18644 | Orc:2    | Bought a wand of clouds (4) for 312 gold pieces
 18644 | Orc:2    | Bought a box of beasts for 260 gold pieces
 18652 | Orc:2    | Bought a sack of spiders for 320 gold pieces
 18652 | Orc:2    | Bought a sack of spiders for 320 gold pieces
 18689 | Shoals:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Shoals
 18728 | Shoals:1 | Reached skill level 12 in Charms
 19006 | Shoals:1 | Reached skill level 13 in Fighting
 19044 | Shoals:1 | Received a gift from Okawaru
 19154 | Shoals:1 | Noticed Louise
 19560 | Shoals:1 | Got the +4 demon trident of the Priest {flame, Int+4}
 19580 | Shoals:1 | Learned a level 2 spell: Swiftness
 19664 | Shoals:2 | Reached skill level 13 in Charms
 20107 | Shoals:2 | Received a gift from Okawaru
 20107 | Shoals:2 | Reached skill level 14 in Charms
 20428 | Shoals:3 | Entered Level 3 of the Shoals
 20613 | Shoals:3 | Reached skill level 15 in Charms
 20672 | Shoals:3 | Reached XP level 16. HP: 116/130 MP: 5/5
 20848 | Shoals:3 | Reached skill level 16 in Charms
 21001 | Shoals:3 | Received a gift from Okawaru
 21075 | Shoals:3 | Got the +5 ring mail "Qihom" {rN+ Dex+2}
 21118 | Shoals:3 | Reached skill level 17 in Charms
 21255 | Shoals:3 | Got Roxuke's Volume of Dislocated Snow
 21299 | Shoals:3 | Reached skill level 4 in Spellcasting
 21330 | Shoals:3 | Found a gate to the Vaults.
 21364 | Shoals:3 | Got a barnacled rune of Zot
 21619 | Shoals:3 | Noticed Ilsuiw
 21636 | Shoals:3 | Killed Ilsuiw
 21746 | Vaults:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Vaults
 21947 | Vaults:1 | Reached skill level 5 in Spellcasting
 22167 | Vaults:1 | Received a gift from Okawaru
 22266 | Vaults:1 | Reached skill level 6 in Spellcasting
 22469 | Vaults:1 | Received a gift from Okawaru
 22469 | Vaults:1 | Reached skill level 18 in Charms
 22511 | Vaults:1 | Reached XP level 17. HP: 136/136 MP: 10/10
 22534 | Vaults:1 | Learned a level 9 spell: Haste
 22637 | Vaults:1 | Found Jeeqob's Distillery.
 22788 | Vaults:1 | Reached skill level 7 in Spellcasting
 23357 | Vaults:1 | Bought a potion of heal wounds for 90 gold pieces
 23357 | Vaults:1 | Bought a potion of curing for 54 gold pieces
 23357 | Vaults:1 | Bought a potion of ambrosia for 144 gold pieces
 23357 | Vaults:1 | Bought a potion of heal wounds for 90 gold pieces
 23401 | Vaults:1 | Got the +2 hat of the Dwarven Hall {MP+9 Int+9 Dex-5}
 23602 | Vaults:2 | Reached skill level 8 in Spellcasting
 23780 | Vaults:2 | Noticed a sphinx
 23790 | Vaults:2 | Killed a sphinx
 23967 | Vaults:2 | Noticed Saint Roka
 23992 | Vaults:2 | Reached skill level 19 in Charms
 23993 | Vaults:2 | Killed Saint Roka
 23993 | Vaults:2 | Received a gift from Okawaru
 23993 | Vaults:2 | Reached skill level 9 in Spellcasting
 24150 | Vaults:2 | Found Ymicur's Book Shop.
 24778 | Vaults:3 | Entered Level 3 of the Vaults
 24778 | Vaults:3 | Found a staircase to the Depths.
 24778 | Vaults:3 | Found a staircase to the Slime Pits.
 24811 | Vaults:3 | Reached skill level 1 in Transmutations
 24814 | Vaults:3 | Reached skill level 2 in Transmutations
 24814 | Vaults:3 | Reached skill level 1 in Earth Magic
 24814 | Vaults:3 | Reached XP level 18. HP: 98/143 MP: 6/6
 24827 | Vaults:3 | Received a gift from Okawaru
 24827 | Vaults:3 | Reached skill level 3 in Transmutations
 24835 | Vaults:3 | Reached skill level 2 in Earth Magic
 24844 | Vaults:3 | Reached skill level 4 in Transmutations
 24884 | Vaults:3 | Reached skill level 5 in Transmutations
 24884 | Vaults:3 | Reached skill level 3 in Earth Magic
 24944 | Vaults:3 | Learned a level 6 spell: Statue Form
 25015 | Vaults:3 | Got the +4 bardiche of the Walnut {vamp, rN+ MR+ Stlth-}
 25060 | Vaults:3 | Reached skill level 6 in Transmutations
 25075 | Vaults:3 | Reached skill level 4 in Earth Magic
 25135 | Vaults:3 | Received a gift from Okawaru
 25135 | Vaults:3 | Reached skill level 7 in Transmutations
 25151 | Vaults:3 | Got the +5 cloak "Sopneok" {Int+5 Stlth+}
 25197 | Vaults:3 | Learned a level 6 spell: Deflect Missiles
 25247 | Vaults:3 | Found Daseocsata's Armour Emporium.
 25347 | Vaults:3 | Reached skill level 5 in Earth Magic
 25352 | Vaults:3 | Reached skill level 8 in Transmutations
 25460 | Vaults:3 | Noticed a golden dragon
 25472 | Vaults:3 | Killed a golden dragon
 25472 | Vaults:3 | Reached skill level 16 in Polearms
 25497 | Vaults:3 | Reached skill level 9 in Transmutations
 25506 | Vaults:3 | Noticed a titan
 25516 | Vaults:3 | Killed a titan
 25516 | Vaults:3 | Reached skill level 6 in Earth Magic
 25524 | Vaults:3 | Reached XP level 19. HP: 149/149 MP: 0/0
 25536 | Vaults:3 | Reached skill level 10 in Transmutations
 25548 | Vaults:3 | Received a gift from Okawaru
 25557 | Vaults:3 | Reached skill level 17 in Polearms
 25577 | Vaults:3 | Reached skill level 7 in Earth Magic
 25589 | Vaults:3 | Reached skill level 11 in Transmutations
 25846 | Vaults:3 | Got a ring of the Octopus King {MR+ AC+1 EV+1 Str+1 Int+1 Dex+1}
 25959 | Vaults:3 | Got the +0 plate armour of the Ditch-Digger {rF+ MR+}
 26278 | Vaults:3 | Received a gift from Okawaru
 26385 | Vaults:3 | Reached skill level 18 in Polearms
 26387 | Vaults:3 | Reached skill level 10 in Spellcasting
 26399 | Vaults:3 | Reached skill level 8 in Earth Magic
 26428 | Vaults:3 | Got a silver rune of Zot
 26630 | Vaults:3 | Got the Disquisition on Dark Feathers
 26919 | Slime:1  | Entered Level 1 of the Pits of Slime
 26934 | Slime:1  | Reached skill level 12 in Transmutations
 27130 | Slime:4  | Entered Level 4 of the Pits of Slime
 27161 | Slime:4  | Noticed the Royal Jelly
 27169 | Slime:4  | Found a staircase to the Depths.
 27169 | Slime:4  | Found a viscous altar of Jiyva.
 27176 | Slime:4  | Killed the Royal Jelly
 27176 | Slime:4  | Received a gift from Okawaru
 27176 | Slime:4  | Reached XP level 20. HP: 156/156 MP: 2/2
 27256 | Slime:4  | Got a slimy rune of Zot
 27328 | Slime:4  | Got the ring "Zumimumin" {Wiz rElec rF+ rC+}
 27587 | Slime:4  | Reached skill level 13 in Transmutations
 27626 | Depths:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Depths
 27649 | Depths:1 | Found a portal to the Elven Halls.
 27674 | Elf      | Entered the Elven Halls
 27696 | Elf      | Reached skill level 20 in Charms
 27696 | Elf      | Reached skill level 9 in Earth Magic
 27717 | Elf      | Reached skill level 19 in Polearms
 27718 | Elf      | Reached skill level 11 in Spellcasting
 27748 | Elf      | Received a gift from Okawaru
 28054 | Elf      | Got the amulet of Qenuinu {Faith Str+2 Int+4 Dex+2}
 28154 | Elf      | Got the ring of Understanding {Ice rF+ Dex+4}
 28346 | Depths:1 | Got the +5 chain mail "Kurom" {Dex+4}
 28393 | Depths:1 | Reached XP level 21. HP: 162/162 MP: 2/2
 28505 | Depths:1 | Reached skill level 7 in Summonings
 28747 | Depths:1 | Found Poryla Ware's Book Boutique.
 28756 | Depths:1 | Bought a manual of Polearms for 1876 gold pieces
 28756 | Depths:1 | Bought a book of Dreams for 1275 gold pieces
 29184 | Depths:2 | Reached skill level 20 in Polearms
 29188 | Depths:2 | Received a gift from Okawaru
 29201 | Depths:2 | Reached skill level 8 in Summonings
 29387 | Depths:2 | Reached skill level 21 in Polearms
 29426 | Depths:2 | Reached skill level 12 in Spellcasting
 29478 | Depths:2 | Reached skill level 9 in Summonings
 29895 | Depths:2 | Received a gift from Okawaru
 30036 | Depths:2 | Reached skill level 10 in Summonings
 30046 | Depths:2 | Received a gift from Okawaru
 30048 | Depths:2 | Reached XP level 22. HP: 169/169 MP: 5/5
 30059 | Depths:2 | Got the +14 crystal plate armour "Dolomus" {Dex+7}
 30110 | Depths:2 | Found Essuwkor's Jewellery Emporium.
 30115 | Depths:2 | Bought the ring of Downet {rPois rF+ AC+3 Dex+4} for 1047 gold pieces
 30408 | Depths:2 | Learned a level 6 spell: Shadow Creatures
 30581 | Depths:2 | Reached skill level 21 in Charms
 30863 | Depths:3 | Entered Level 3 of the Depths
 30879 | Depths:3 | Noticed a diesel robin
 30882 | Depths:3 | Noticed a diesel robin
 30889 | Depths:3 | Killed a diesel robin
 30892 | Depths:3 | Killed a diesel robin
 30892 | Depths:3 | Reached skill level 11 in Summonings
 30894 | Depths:3 | Noticed a diesel robin
 30894 | Depths:3 | Noticed a greater mummy
 30896 | Depths:3 | Noticed a diesel robin
 30898 | Depths:3 | Noticed a diesel robin
 30900 | Depths:3 | Killed a diesel robin
 30903 | Depths:3 | Killed a diesel robin
 30905 | Depths:3 | Killed a diesel robin
 30905 | Depths:3 | Reached skill level 22 in Polearms
 30915 | Depths:3 | Killed a greater mummy
 30959 | Depths:3 | Found a one-way gate leading to the halls of Pandemonium.
 31166 | Depths:3 | Received a gift from Okawaru
 31278 | Depths:3 | Found a gate to the Realm of Zot.
 31278 | Depths:3 | Noticed a golden dragon
 31299 | Depths:3 | Killed a golden dragon
 31306 | Depths:3 | Reached skill level 13 in Spellcasting
 31328 | Depths:3 | Reached skill level 12 in Summonings
 31493 | Depths:3 | Reached skill level 23 in Polearms
 32122 | Zot:1    | Entered Level 1 of the Realm of Zot
 32149 | Zot:1    | Received a gift from Okawaru
 32387 | Zot:1    | Noticed a cool robin
 32389 | Zot:1    | Noticed a golden dragon
 32390 | Zot:1    | Noticed an acid robin

             

Skill      XL: |  1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 |
---------------+----------------------------------------------------------------------------------+-----
Polearms       |  4     5  6  7     8  9 10          13 15          16 18 19 21 23 24             | 24.2
Dodging        |           2  3  4  5  7  8  9 11 12 13 14                      15    17 19 21 23 | 23.8
Fighting       |              3  4     5  7  8  9 10 11 12 13                         15 17 18 21 | 21.4
Charms         |                 4  5  6  7  8  9       11 15 18 19       20    21                | 21.4
Shields        |                       1  2                                                       |  2.1
Ice Magic      |                          3  5  6                                                 |  6.2
Summonings     |                          1  3  6                            10 12 15 17 18 19 21 | 21.5
Spellcasting   |                             3                 6  9    10 11 12 13                | 13.2
Stealth        |                                   5  7                                           |  7.1
Invocations    |                                   4  6                                           |  6.5
Evocations     |                                   4  5                                        12 | 12.3
Transmutations |                                                  2  9 12 13                   14 | 14.7
Earth Magic    |                                                  1  6  8  9                   10 | 10.0
Armour         |                                                                                  |  0.6

Action                   |  1- 3 |  4- 6 |  7- 9 | 10-12 | 13-15 | 16-18 | 19-21 | 22-24 | 25-27 || total
-------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------++-------
Melee: Spear             |   103 |   152 |   373 |  1042 |   237 |       |       |       |       ||  1907
       Tailslap          |       |     3 |       |     4 |    14 |     8 |       |       |       ||    29
       Peck              |       |       |       |    89 |   123 |   104 |   129 |   168 |   276 ||   889
       Glaive            |       |       |       |       |   435 |   421 |       |       |       ||   856
       Demon trident     |       |       |       |       |   137 |    69 |       |       |       ||   206
       Bardiche          |       |       |       |       |       |   121 |   584 |   479 |   604 ||  1788
       Scythe            |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |   317 ||   317
Throw: Tomahawk          |     8 |    50 |       |       |       |       |       |       |       ||    58
       Poisoned dart     |       |    32 |   146 |   136 |    21 |       |   197 |       |       ||   532
       Javelin           |       |       |       |   105 |   108 |    28 |       |    51 |    74 ||   366
       Curare dart       |       |       |       |    14 |     5 |       |     6 |       |       ||    25
 Cast: Infusion          |     1 |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |       ||     1
       Song of Slaying   |     1 |       |       |       |       |       |     2 |       |       ||     3
       Regeneration      |       |     1 |       |       |       |       |     2 |       |       ||     3
       Ozocubu's Armour  |       |       |       |     1 |       |       |       |       |       ||     1
       Repel Missiles    |       |       |       |     1 |       |       |       |       |       ||     1
       Spectral Weapon   |       |       |       |     1 |       |       |     2 |       |       ||     3
       Haste             |       |       |       |       |       |     1 |     2 |       |       ||     3
       Statue Form       |       |       |       |       |       |     1 |     3 |       |       ||     4
       Deflect Missiles  |       |       |       |       |       |     1 |     2 |       |       ||     3
       Shadow Creatures  |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |    49 |    14 ||    63
       Summon Horrible T |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |    10 |    35 ||    45
Invok: Finesse           |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |     2 ||     2
 Abil: End Infusion      |       |       |       |     1 |       |       |       |       |       ||     1
       End Ozocubu's Arm |       |       |       |       |       |     1 |       |       |       ||     1
       End Transformatio |       |       |       |       |       |       |     1 |       |       ||     1
Evoke: Phial of floods   |       |       |       |     1 |     2 |       |       |       |       ||     3
       Wand              |       |       |       |       |       |       |     6 |     1 |     2 ||     9
       Phantom mirror    |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |     1 ||     1
  Use: Scroll            |       |       |       |     1 |     2 |     6 |     3 |     4 |     4 ||    20
       Potion            |       |       |       |     4 |       |     1 |     2 |       |     2 ||     9
 Stab: Sleeping          |     1 |     1 |     1 |     7 |     4 |    10 |     7 |       |     6 ||    37
       Distracted        |       |       |       |     7 |    25 |    12 |    16 |    24 |    41 ||   125
Armor: Leather armour    |    22 |    20 |    34 |    81 |       |       |       |       |       ||   157
       Steam dragon scal |       |       |       |    41 |    76 |       |       |       |       ||   117
       Troll leather arm |       |       |       |     8 |       |       |       |       |       ||     8
       Robe              |       |       |       |       |    14 |    63 |       |       |       ||    77
       Skin              |       |       |       |       |       |    16 |   125 |   136 |   187 ||   464
Dodge: Dodged            |    42 |    57 |   109 |   438 |   771 |   379 |   450 |   718 |  1144 ||  4108
       Deflected         |       |       |       |    15 |    62 |    64 |    43 |    19 |    10 ||   213
Block: Buckler           |       |       |    20 |   147 |    77 |    35 |       |       |       ||   279

Vault maps used:
D:1:      noname_arrival_rooms_in_the_neighbourhood, minivault_26, minmay_tall_x
D:2:      old_standard_altar, gammafunk_temple_overflow_pools,
          lemuel_zombie_altar_yredelemnul, old_standard_altar,
          chequers_ecumenical_altar_lobes, minmay_misc_feat_doors
D:3:      grunt_qazlal_clouds, nicolae_dithmenos_shadow_blocks,
          nicolae_gozag_seed_capital, old_standard_altar, portal_sewer_entry_f
D:4:      minmay_opposing_rooms, overflow_temple_1_default
D:5:      nicolae_overflow_crystal_walls
D:6:      old_standard_altar, lemuel_coloured_pillars_altar,
          lemuel_blue_sif_altar, gammafunk_temple_overflow_wave, minmay_bent,
          uniq_edmund, uniq_menkaure, uniq_prince_ribbit1
D:7:      boulder_indie, kennysheep_mini, overflow_temple_1_default,
          tso_oasis_becter
D:8:      lemuel_insect_pit, minmay_misc_feat_roman,
          minmay_hollow_rounded_squares
D:10:     minmay_cornered_nines
D:11:     minmay_curled_crystal
D:12:     corexii_hall_statues_x, minivault_24, solitary_fountain,
          minmay_fire_ice_demons
D:13:     kennysheep_pointless_box, uniq_josephine
D:15:     grunt_enter_depths_snipers, orc_david_3,
          hangedman_vaults_entry_quadrant_bands, nicolae_two_hexagons,
          uniq_rupert
Shoals:1: uniq_louise
Shoals:2: nicolae_shoals_arrival_archipelago
Shoals:3: shoals_end_grunt_garden, shoal_ilsuiw
Slime:1:  nicolae_slime_barrier
Slime:3:  nicolae_slime_phagocytosis
Orc:1:    nicolae_orc_lava_tube, minmay_orc_keep
Orc:2:    st_orc_rangers, minmay_shoals_entry_beasts,
          minmay_slime_entry_pillars, special_room, bloody_makhleb, uniq_snorg,
          uniq_sonja
Elf:      minmay_elf_hall_circle
Vaults:1: ontoclasm_vaults_gateway, vaults_mumra_minichess_inversion,
          nicolae_vaults_network_star, ontoclasm_vaults_ligature, v_pattern_5,
          hangedman_vaults_river_flow, vaults_room_stairs_pillars,
          nicolae_vaults_little_squares_3, nicolae_vaults_yaktaur_gun_rack,
          hangedman_vaults_slice, vaults_room_stairs_pillars, serial_shops, shop
Vaults:2: nicolae_vaults_border_crossing, nicolae_vaults_network_s,
          vaults_mumra_lcd, nicolae_vaults_statue_guard,
          vaults_standard_mumra_enter_the_diamond,
          vaults_room_grunt_arrival_ludios, vaults_dpeg_cross, v_misc_13,
          ontoclasm_vaults_ring_square, vaults_room_semicircle, serial_shops,
          nicolae_shop_crystal, uniq_saint_roka
Depths:1: portal_elf_entry_minmay_elf_crystal_hexagon, kennysheep_boxes,
          serial_shops, shop, bh_walls_and_bars
Depths:2: lemuel_castle_with_subvaults, hangedman_abyss_or_decor_lesser_grid,
          serial_shops, nicolae_shop_stone, grunt_megastairs_2
Depths:3: grunt_zot_entry_tricorne, rand_demon_pan_entry_5, nicolae_sextant
Tar:1:    lemuel_nasty_fountain
Tar:2:    nicolae_tar_cuneiform_bird
Tar:4:    hangedman_damned_closets
Tar:6:    door_vault
Tar:7:    tar_minmay_river
Zot:2:    uniq_combo_robin
Zot:3:    basic_stair_grate_trap
Zot:5:    grunt_ministairs_9
Sewer:    sewer_frog_island_02

Table legend:
 A = Turns spent in this place as a percentage of turns spent in the
     entire game.
 B = Non-inter-level travel turns spent in this place as a percentage of
     non-inter-level travel turns spent in the entire game.
 C = Inter-level travel turns spent in this place as a percentage of
     turns spent in this place.
 D = Turns resting spent in this place as a percentage of non-inter-level
     travel turns spent in this place.
 E = Turns spent auto-exploring this place as a percentage of
     non-inter-level travel turns spent in this place.
 F = Non-inter-level travel turns spent in this place divided by the
     number of levels of this place that you've seen.

                   A       B       C       D       E               F
               +-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+----------------------
         Total | 100.0 | 100.0 |   0.3 |   0.4 |   8.3 |         529.3
       Dungeon |  36.4 |  36.4 |   0.3 |   0.3 |  10.0 |         577.9
        Shoals |  10.2 |  10.2 |   0.2 |   0.2 |   8.7 |         809.7
    Slime Pits |   1.9 |   1.9 |   0.7 |   0.4 |   0.2 |         112.2
  Orcish Mines |   7.7 |   7.8 |   0.2 |   0.2 |   7.6 |         923.0
   Elven Halls |   1.6 |   1.6 |   0.0 |   0.5 |  16.9 |         378.0
        Vaults |  13.9 |  13.9 |   0.2 |   1.0 |   8.9 |        1101.0
        Depths |  10.6 |  10.7 |   0.2 |   0.1 |   7.9 |         846.0
          Hell |   2.4 |   2.4 |   0.0 |   0.9 |   0.7 |         581.0
      Tartarus |   6.8 |   6.8 |   0.0 |   1.2 |   0.6 |         232.0
           Zot |   7.0 |   7.0 |   0.4 |   0.3 |   7.5 |         331.6
         Sewer |   1.4 |   1.4 |   0.0 |   1.8 |  15.5 |         342.0
               +-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+----------------------

Table legend:
 A = Kills in this place as a percentage of kills in entire the game.
 B = Kills by you in this place as a percentage of kills by you in
     the entire game.
 C = Kills by friends in this place as a percentage of kills by
     friends in the entire game.
 D = Other kills in this place as a percentage of other kills in the
     entire game.
 E = Experience gained in this place as a percentage of experience
     gained in the entire game.
 F = Experience gained in this place divided by the number of levels of
     this place that you have seen.

                   A       B       C       D       E               F
               +-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+----------------------
         Total | 100.0 | 100.0 | 100.0 | 100.0 | 100.0 |       36694.2
       Dungeon |  23.9 |  25.2 |   0.0 |  16.7 |   4.1 |        4549.1
        Shoals |   8.3 |   8.6 |   3.6 |   0.0 |   4.6 |       25174.7
    Slime Pits |   2.5 |   2.7 |   0.0 |   0.0 |   3.6 |       14788.8
  Orcish Mines |   6.2 |   6.5 |   1.2 |   0.0 |   1.1 |        9457.0
   Elven Halls |   1.6 |   1.7 |   0.0 |   0.0 |   2.6 |       43518.0
        Vaults |  14.5 |  15.2 |   0.0 |  16.7 |  13.1 |       72296.3
        Depths |  10.6 |  10.7 |   9.6 |   0.0 |  12.8 |       70630.3
          Hell |   5.5 |   4.6 |  22.9 |  16.7 |   7.6 |      126145.0
      Tartarus |  14.1 |  13.0 |  36.1 |  33.3 |  20.2 |       47689.1
           Zot |  10.0 |   9.1 |  26.5 |  16.7 |  30.1 |       99370.4
         Sewer |   2.7 |   2.9 |   0.0 |   0.0 |   0.0 |         291.0
               +-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+----------------------


this is so much better than dcss crawl. i think MfSk is the MiBe of hellcrawl

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Post Thursday, 9th November 2017, 23:46

Re: [proclick] new fork, hellcrawl

Sticking to Berserker only feels like you run into a brick wall around Depths/Zot, permabuffs are a huge benefit that compensate for the lack of XP and difficulty spikes later on.. it could be fun to do berserker and then try abandoning for another god though.

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Post Friday, 10th November 2017, 00:23

Re: [proclick] new fork, hellcrawl

Yeah, almost every character wants to get permabuffs in Hellcrawl.

I'm having a lot of fun in Hellcrawl with both casual and speedrun mode. I've even won casual a few times! (It's pretty easy):
  Code:

2218150 chequers the Demonspawn of Death (level 27, 231/231 HPs) *CASUAL*
             Began as a Demonspawn Gladiator on Nov 6, 2017.
             Was the Champion of Okawaru.
             Escaped with the Orb
             ... and 9 runes on Nov 7, 2017!

I had a CPA on and yet it was still worth training for four charms:
  Code:
a: End Regeneration, End Death Channel, End Cigotuvi's Embrace, Stop Repelling
Missiles, Finesse, Renounce Religion, Evoke Flight


I suggest making charms scale harder. Especially regeneration could give significantly less regen at low spellpower.

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Post Friday, 10th November 2017, 18:49

Re: [proclick] new fork, hellcrawl

Sometimes it feels like surviving an entrance to a new floor can be almost entirely up to luck, specially early on (picture spawning into a spot where you're cornered and run into an orc pack with a priest on D:3 or something), so I had an idea regarding entering new floors: what if you had an XCOM2 style concealment at the beginning of each floor? The way it'd work is you would be invisible for a certain amount of time, but the only action you can do is move around, and even then you could break concealment if you move adjacent to an enemy or something, in which case it reverts to doing a normal stealth check. The game would warn you if you're about to break concealment, once per floor doesn't sound annoying. The purpose would of this would be to give you some breathing room to scout a bit, take a better position and decide what course of action to take. Concealment would work regardless of how stealthy you are.

You could also have a base amount of concealment turns (maybe 5?) and make it scale with stealth skill since it makes sense flavor-wise, I'm not sure if stealth needs a buff though.

The Orb could disable concealment since you feel badass with the Orb and you're no sissy that needs to hide anymore.

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Post Saturday, 11th November 2017, 04:14

Re: [proclick] new fork, hellcrawl

Is this a bug?
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Post Sunday, 12th November 2017, 05:48

Re: [proclick] new fork, hellcrawl

  Code:
 Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 5.2-4-g6121e92 (webtiles) character file.

27442662 bananaken the Middleweight Champion (level 27, 275/275 (276) HPs) *SPEED*
             Began as a Ghoul Monk on Nov 12, 2017.
             Was the Champion of Cheibriados.
             Escaped with the Orb
             ... and 2 runes!
             
             The game lasted 01:41:36 (22628 turns).

bananaken the Middleweight Champion (Ghoul Monk)   Turns: 22628, Time: 01:41:36

HP:   275/275 (276) AC: 30 (44%)Str: 43  XL:     27
MP:   50/50         EV: 26    Int: 32    God:    Cheibriados [6*[193]]
Gold: 3781          SH:  9    Dex: 35    Spells: 21/57 levels left

rFire    + + .     SeeInvis .     - Unarmed
rCold    + + .     Faith    .   d - +1 buckler {rF+}
rNeg     + + +     Spirit   .   S - +5 gold dragon scales
rPois    ∞         Reflect  .   k - +0 hat {Int+3}
rElec    +                      Q - +2 cloak {MP+9}
rCorr    .                      (no gloves)
MR       ++...                  T - +0 pair of boots
Stlth    ..........             a - amulet of Vitality {Regen+ HP+15}
Regen    1.0/turn               M - +6 ring of strength
MPRegen  0.4/turn               m - ring "Rate" {rElec Str+3 Dex+9 Stlth-}


Speedrun mode is pretty fun, I wasn't specifically aiming for minimizing turn-count, just focused on not dying. The XP bonus helps a LOT, I can see this being easier than normal difficulty in some cases but a doom clock with rotting meant I could try trading off some HP for additional loot/kills.

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Post Sunday, 12th November 2017, 14:38

Re: [proclick] new fork, hellcrawl

I don't like that pan exists in hellcrawl. Pan isn't particularly dangerous after depths, especially if you forgo the boss vaults/runes, and by doing pan you make zot/hell easier. It's the same branching problem that existed in mainline crawl: Choose 1 - a longer game with lower mean difficulty (but more opportunities to die) vs. a shorter game with higher mean difficulty.

This isn't a fun question because the first option is all-around more tedious and less intense. Pan would perhaps be okay if the portals were located under the runes (so you are forced to brave the vaults) but even so it is kinda lame that characters strong enough to deal with pan are rewarded with a comparatively underwhelming endgame.

(The same is true of slime)

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Post Sunday, 12th November 2017, 20:13

Re: [proclick] new fork, hellcrawl

How about adjusting Orb run difficulty according to the branches you visit and/or number of runes you have? If you do this and remove Pan, you could just use a random Pan level (or multiple ones) as part of the Orb run, and/or scale spawn rates accordingly. The incentive for making the game harder this way would pretty much be score though (and doing more content if you feel like it).

Edit: Some more feedback incoming:

Speedrun mode makes orb run considerably easier due to Hell vestibule's portal being visible on top of all hell levels, not sure if that's intended.

Cigotuvi's embrace seems really strong for a level 5 spell, granted I was clearing Zot's floors entirely but once you get the ball rolling I was getting my total defenses to 50-70 AC and SH *each* (Cigotuvi was adding 30-40+ to each? Forgot to check), most of which you can carry over to the next floor which made me practically invulnerable save for some extreme hubris:

  Code:
 Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 5.2-4-g6121e92 (webtiles) character file.

15431255 bananaken the Grave Robber (level 27, 201/204 HPs)
             Began as a Gnoll Wanderer on Nov 13, 2017.
             Was the Champion of Okawaru.
             Escaped with the Orb
             ... and 2 runes!
             
             The game lasted 04:09:19 (40242 turns).

bananaken the Grave Robber (Gnoll Wanderer)        Turns: 40242, Time: 04:09:21

Health: 201/204    AC: 61 (39%)Str: 18  XL:     27
Magic:  24/24      EV: 24    Int: 41    God:    Okawaru [6*[200]]
Gold:   3675       SH: 51    Dex: 22    Spells: 3/79 levels left

rFire    + + .     SeeInvis .   a - +9 double sword (elec)
rCold    + . .     Faith    .   Z - +4 large shield of an ossuary {rF+ MR+}
rNeg     + . .     Spirit   .   X - +6 pearl dragon scales
rPois    +         Reflect  .   e - +2 hat {MP+9}
rElec    +                      H - +0 cloak of It's Over Quickly {rPois MR- Int+8}
rCorr    +                      J - +2 pair of gloves
MR       ++...                  g - +2 pair of boots of the Eight Boll Weevils {Dex+7}
Stlth    ++++++++..             u - amulet of regeneration
Regen    1.9/turn               m - +6 ring of intelligence
MPRegen  0.3/turn               G - ring of wizardry


In contrast, haste as a level 9 permabuff is hilariously strong but it makes sense being a level 9 spell.

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Post Sunday, 19th November 2017, 09:43

Re: [proclick] new fork, hellcrawl

Just found out that hellcrawl is also playable on LLD now. Going to give it a try.

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Post Monday, 20th November 2017, 18:17

Re: [proclick] new fork, hellcrawl

Jiyva piety seems pretty bad I didn't get to 200 until V2 using a amulet of faith the whole time since getting altar on d4 or 3, but I think 4.

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Post Tuesday, 21st November 2017, 03:50

Re: [proclick] new fork, hellcrawl

Before skeletons are put to rest, I spooked Lom Lobon:

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Post Friday, 24th November 2017, 13:09

Re: [proclick] new fork, hellcrawl

  Code:
 Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 5.2-4-g6121e92 (webtiles) character file.

144623768 kroki the Slayer (level 27, 429/429 HPs)
             Began as an Octopode Skald on Nov 24, 2017.
             Was the Champion of Okawaru.
             Escaped with the Orb
             ... and 9 runes!
             
             The game lasted 02:13:38 (47709 turns).

kroki the Slayer (Octopode Skald)                  Turns: 47709, Time: 02:13:38

Health: 429/429    AC: 37 (39%)Str: 18  XL:     27
Magic:  16/18      EV: 54    Int: 34    God:    Okawaru [6*[169]]
Gold:   6549       SH: 27    Dex: 18    Spells: 20/68 levels left

rFire    + + +     SeeInvis .     - Unarmed
rCold    + + .     Faith    .   J - +5 shield {reflect}
rNeg     + + +     Spirit   +   z - +2 hat of the Bear Spirit {Spirit, +Rage rN+ MR++}
rPois    ∞         Reflect  +   S - brooch of Shielding {Reflect SH+8}
rElec    +                      h - +6 ring of evasion
rCorr    +                      V - ring of Dodge City {EV+8}
MR       +++++                  w - ring of Kewuxzir {rN+ Str+2 Dex+5}
Stlth    ..........             X - ring of the Mage {Wiz MR++ Int+3}
Regen    2.3/turn               t - +6 ring of protection
MPRegen  0.3/turn               D - ring of Oddul {rC+ EV+3}
                                s - +3 ring of evasion
                                F - +3 ring of protection

@: mighty, brilliant, berserking, statue-form, resistant, flying, very slightly
contaminated, regenerating, deflect missiles, invisible
A: almost no armour, stealthy swim, amphibious, 8 rings, constrict 8, tentacle
spike, camouflage, regeneration 1, wild magic 1
0: Orb of Zot
}: 9/15 runes: serpentine, slimy, silver, iron, demonic, glowing, magical,
fiery, dark
a: End Regeneration, Stop Singing, End Darkness, End Ring of Flames, Stop
Repelling Missiles, End Transformation, Finesse, Renounce Religion, Evoke
Berserk Rage


You were on level 0 of the Iron City of Dis.
You worshipped Okawaru.
Okawaru was exalted by your worship.
You were not hungry.

You were a stone statue.

You visited 9 branches of the dungeon, and saw 43 of its levels.
You visited Pandemonium 1 time, and saw 5 of its levels.
You also visited: Bailey, Wizlab and Elven Halls.

You collected 8704 gold pieces.
You spent 2155 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Hand Weapons
 m - the +6 sword of Cerebov {flame}
   (You took it off Cerebov in Pandemonium)   
   
   It has been specially enchanted to burn those struck by it, causing extra
   injury to most foes and up to half again as much damage against particularly
   susceptible opponents.
Armour
 a - the +1 buckler of the Soldier {rN++ Int+3 Slay-3 SInv}
   (Okawaru gifted it to you in the Vestibule of Hell)   
   
   It affects your intelligence (+3).
   It affects your accuracy and damage with ranged weapons and melee attacks
   (-3).
   It greatly protects you from negative energy.
   It lets you see invisible.
 d - a +2 hat of spirit shield
   (Okawaru gifted it to you on level 4 of the Iron City of Dis)
 z - the +2 hat of the Bear Spirit (worn) {Spirit, +Rage rN+ MR++}
   (You found it on level 3 of the Vaults)   
   
   It protects you from negative energy.
   It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments.
   It lets you go berserk.
 E - a +1 buckler of protection
   (Okawaru gifted it to you on level 1 of the Iron City of Dis)
 G - a +0 buckler of positive energy
   (Okawaru gifted it to you on level 7 of the Iron City of Dis)
 J - a +5 shield of reflection (worn)
   (You took it off a vault guard on level 3 of the Vaults)
 U - the +3 crown of Dyrovepreva {rElec Int+2 SInv}
   (Okawaru gifted it to you on level 14 of the Dungeon)   
   
   It affects your intelligence (+2).
   It insulates you from electricity.
   It lets you see invisible.
Jewellery
 h - a +6 ring of evasion (left tentacle)
   (You found it on level 1 of the Dungeon)
 s - a +3 ring of evasion (on tentacle)
   (You took it off a vault guard on level 3 of the Vaults)
 t - a +6 ring of protection (on tentacle)
   (You found it on level 1 of the Depths)
 w - the ring of Kewuxzir (on tentacle) {rN+ Str+2 Dex+5}
   (You found it on level 3 of the Vaults)   
   
   [ring of positive energy]
   
   It affects your strength (+2).
   It affects your dexterity (+5).
   It protects you from negative energy.
 x - an uncursed ring of resist corrosion
   (You found it on level 8 of the Dungeon)
 D - the ring of Oddul (on tentacle) {rC+ EV+3}
   (You found it in Pandemonium)   
   
   [ring of evasion]
   
   It affects your evasion (+3).
   It protects you from cold.
 F - a +3 ring of protection (on tentacle)
   (You found it on level 2 of the Depths)
 L - the ring of Feneafen {Str+4 SInv}
   (You took it off a vault guard on level 3 of the Vaults)   
   
   [ring of see invisible]
   
   It affects your strength (+4).
   It lets you see invisible.
 S - the brooch of Shielding (around mantle) {Reflect SH+8}
   (You found it on level 14 of the Dungeon)   
   
   [amulet of reflection]
   
   It shields you and reflects attacks.
   It affects your SH (+8).
 V - the ring of Dodge City (right tentacle) {EV+8}
   (You found it on level 4 of the Pits of Slime)   
   
   [ring of evasion]
   
   It affects your evasion (+8).
 X - the ring of the Mage (on tentacle) {Wiz MR++ Int+3}
   (You found it on level 1 of the Snake Pit)   
   
   [ring of wizardry]
   
   It improves your spell success rate.
   It affects your intelligence (+3).
   It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments.
Wands
 p - a wand of disintegration (8)
 y - a wand of iceblast (39)
 H - a wand of digging (1)
 T - a wand of acid (6)
 Z - a wand of clouds (1)
Scrolls
 c - 3 scrolls of fog
 g - 3 scrolls of summoning
 k - a scroll of enchant armour
 l - 12 scrolls of fear
 n - 15 scrolls of teleportation
 q - 7 scrolls of immolation {!r}
 r - 9 scrolls of amnesia
 A - 2 scrolls of torment {!r}
 B - 2 scrolls of silence
 Q - 5 scrolls of blinking {!r}
Potions
 b - 7 potions of cancellation
 e - 6 potions of flight
 f - 23 potions of curing
 i - 4 potions of heal wounds
 o - a potion of augmentation
 v - 4 potions of invisibility
 K - a potion of lignification
 N - 2 potions of ambrosia
 W - 2 potions of resistance
 Y - a potion of berserk rage {!q}
Miscellaneous
 u - a fan of gales
   (You found it on level 3 of the Vaults)
 C - the horn of Geryon
   (You took it off Geryon in the Vestibule of Hell)
 I - a phial of floods
   (You found it on level 3 of the Vaults)
 M - a lamp of fire
   (You found it on level 3 of the Vaults)
 O - 5 boxes of beasts
 P - 6 sacks of spiders
 R - 3 phantom mirrors


   Skills:
 - Level 26.1(27) Fighting
 - Level 22.2(27) Dodging
 - Level 16.5(21.5) Stealth
 - Level 10.0(15.0) Shields
 - Level 22.0(27) Unarmed Combat
 - Level 21.0 Spellcasting
 - Level 6.5 Hexes
 + Level 15.8 Charms
 - Level 9.5 Summonings
 * Level 17.6 Necromancy
 - Level 15.6 Translocations
 - Level 6.7 Transmutations
 - Level 17.2 Fire Magic
 - Level 6.5 Ice Magic
 - Level 10.0 Air Magic
 - Level 7.3 Earth Magic
 - Level 14.6 Invocations
 - Level 9.0 Evocations


You had 20 spell levels left.
You knew the following spells:

 Your Spells              Type           Power        Failure   Level  Hunger
a - Deflect Missiles      Chrm/Air       112 (200)    1%          6    N/A
b - Shadow Creatures      Summ           N/A          1%          6    N/A
c - Statue Form           Tmut/Erth      94 (150)     1%          6    N/A
d - Ring of Flames        Chrm/Fire      146 (200)    1%          7    N/A
e - Darkness              Hex            92 (200)     1%          6    N/A
r - Regeneration          Chrm/Necr      121 (200)    1%          3    N/A
A - Ozocubu's Armour      Chrm/Ice       100 (100)    1%          4    N/A
B - Controlled Blink      Tloc           N/A          1%          8    N/A
S - Song of Slaying       Chrm           100 (100)    1%          2    N/A


Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (15/15)             Snake (3/3) Orc:2         Slime (4/4) Orc:2 Vaults:3
    Orc (2/2) D:15         Vaults (3/3) D:15 Snake:3 Depths (3/3) D:15 Slime:4 Vaults:3
   Hell (1/1)                 Dis (7/7) Hell            Zot (5/5) Depths:3
 Swamp: Orc:2       Shoals: Orc:2          Geh: Hell:1         Coc: Hell:1
   Tar: Hell:1     

Altars:
Cheibriados
Dithmenos
Elyvilon
Gozag
Hepliaklqana
Jiyva
Kikubaaqudgha
Makhleb
Okawaru
Qazlal
Ru
Sif Muna
Trog
Uskayaw
Vehumet
Xom
Yredelemnul
Zin
The Shining One
Lugonu

Shops:
D:3 *   D:5 *   D:12 =   D:13 (   Orc:2 :!(}[(?!?   Depths:1 =}}

Portals:
Hell: Zot:5
Pandemonium: Depths:3

Annotations:
Dis:3 13 runed doors


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You cannot wear most types of armour.
You are very stealthy in the water.
You are amphibious.
You can wear up to eight rings at the same time.
You can use your tentacles to constrict eight enemies at once.
Your skin blends seamlessly with your surroundings (Stealth+++).
((Your rubbery body absorbs attacks. (AC +1, EV +1)))
One of your tentacles bears a nasty spike.
Your natural rate of healing is unusually fast.
Your spells are a little harder to cast, but a little more powerful.


Message History

The rust devil moves out of view.
Unknown command.
You catch the helpless Hell Sentinel completely off-guard!
You thrash the Hell Sentinel (136)!!!!
You kill the Hell Sentinel!
Okawaru accepts your kill.
The ice devil completely misses you.
The ice devil is engulfed in blazing flames (12).
The ice devil completely misses you.
The ice devil is engulfed in blazing flames (18).
The ice devil completely misses you.
The ice devil is engulfed in blazing flames (15).
You kill the ice devil!
Okawaru accepts your kill.
There is a large open door here.
There is a large open door here.
There is a staircase leading out of the dungeon here.
Char dumped successfully.
You have 6549 gold pieces.
Unknown command.
Okay, then.
Char dumped successfully.
You are alive. You are a stone statue. You are regenerating.
You deflect missiles.
You are surrounded by a ring of flames.
You are immune to clouds of flame.
You have 6 tentacles available for constriction.
Your movement speed is very slow. Your attack speed is quite fast.
Your base attributes are Str 11, Int 26, Dex 13.
You are alive. You are a stone statue. You are regenerating.
You deflect missiles.
You are surrounded by a ring of flames.
You are immune to clouds of flame.
You have 6 tentacles available for constriction.
Your movement speed is very slow. Your attack speed is quite fast.
Your base attributes are Str 11, Int 26, Dex 13.
You are alive. You are a stone statue. You are regenerating.
You deflect missiles.
You are surrounded by a ring of flames.
You are immune to clouds of flame.
You have 6 tentacles available for constriction.
Your movement speed is very slow. Your attack speed is quite fast.
Your base attributes are Str 11, Int 26, Dex 13.
You are alive. You are a stone statue. You are regenerating.
You deflect missiles.
You are surrounded by a ring of flames.
You are immune to clouds of flame.
You have 6 tentacles available for constriction.
Your movement speed is very slow. Your attack speed is quite fast.
Your base attributes are Str 11, Int 26, Dex 13.
Char dumped successfully.
You feel very mighty all of a sudden. You feel clever all of a sudden.
You feel very buoyant.
You fly up into the air.
You fade into invisibility!
You are very lightly contaminated with residual magic.
You feel protected.
Really quaff Y - 2 potions of berserk rage {!q}?
Okay, then.
You can now deal lightning-fast blows.
You now have 13/18 mp.
Really quaff Y - 2 potions of berserk rage {!q}?
Okay, then.
Okay, then.
You feel extremely strange.
You feel slightly disoriented. You no longer feel cold resistant.
You feel resistant to hostile enchantments.
Your urge to shout disappears.
Your beak shortens and softens into a mouth.
Fur sprouts all over your body.
You feel extremely strange.
You shed all your fur.
You feel less resistant to hostile enchantments.
Your system completely accepts artificial healing.
You no longer feel heat resistant. The antennae on your head shrink away.
One of your lower tentacles grows a sharp spike.
Your connection to magic feels subdued. You feel robust.
You feel more energetic.
Something frightening happens.
You regained 3 hp, and now have 289/314 hp.
You feel extremely strange.
Your tentacle spike disappears. Your magic regains its normal vibrancy.
Your system partially rejects artificial healing.
Fur sprouts all over your body.
You regained 2 hp, and now have 291/314 hp.
You feel extremely strange.
You feel frail. You shed all your fur. You feel less energetic.
Your system completely accepts artificial healing.
You feel resistant to heat. You begin to heal more quickly.
One of your lower tentacles grows a sharp spike.
You feel stronger.
You take 5 damage, and have 286/286 hp.
You feel extremely strange.
You feel weaker.
Your rate of healing slows. Your tentacle spike disappears.
You no longer feel heat resistant. You begin to heal more quickly.
You feel less in control of your magic.
One of your lower tentacles grows a sharp spike.
Really quaff Y - 2 potions of berserk rage {!q}?
A red film seems to cover your vision as you go berserk!
Your finesse ends abruptly. You feel yourself moving faster! You feel mighty!
You now have 429/429 hp.
You feel a strong urge to attack something.
You have escaped!

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There were no monsters in sight!

Vanquished Creatures
  Cerebov (Pan)
  the Royal Jelly (Slime:4)
  Gloorx Vloq (Pan)
  Dispater (Dis:7)
  6 seraphim
  Lom Lobon (Pan)
  Mnoleg (Pan)
  6 ancient liches
  11 orbs of fire
  Mara (Depths:3)
  2 Killer Klowns (Zot:5)
  11 cool robins
  10 acid robins
  5 golden dragons
  4 curse toes
  8 diesel robins
  2 elevengus (Dis:2)
  4 THE GIAGGOSTUONOs
  Geryon (Hell)
  37 pandemonium lords
  A profane servitor (Dis:4)
  2 antimatter elves
  2 pearl dragons (Pan)
  4 electric golems
  2 bone dragons
  2 zotbots
  A Hellbinder (WizLab)
  7 Brimstone Fiends
  9 giant giants
  4 Shadow Fiends
  3 iron giants
  6 ghost robins
  6 Ice Fiends
  A hellephant (Dis:2)
  77 Orb Guardians
  17 Hell Sentinels
  19 acid blobs
  10 liches
  A deep elf blademaster (Elf)
  7 quicksilver dragons
  3 titans
  9 subtractor snakes
  5 ancient champions
  11 death cobs
  4 tentacled monstrosities
  3 sphinxes
  19 Executioners
  An eldritch tentacle (Dis:2)
  15 plutonium crabs
  9 storm dragons
  19 iron trolls
  7 Orb Childs
  6 tengu reavers (Vaults:3)
  19 daevas
  7 fire giants
  9 shadow dragons
  16 vault wardens
  13 greater nagas
  8 azure jellies
  9 ghost moths
  15 frost giants
  3 deep elf elementalists (Elf)
  13 iron dragons (Dis:7)
  21 balrugs
  4 curse skulls
  9 deep elf sorcerers
  A warmonger (Pan)
  2 orc warlords
  23 angels
  An acid robin zombie (Hell)
  9 ironheart preservers
  22 very ugly things
  2 revenants
  25 war gargoyles
  26 reapers
  13 cacodemons
  A spriggan defender (Depths:2)
  11 stone giants
  8 ophanim (Pan)
  26 mutatatotots
  An acid robin skeleton (Depths:3)
  A deep elf demonologist (Vaults:3)
  15 apis (Pan)
  A halazid warlock (Vaults:1)
  10 deep elf annihilators
  12 ettins
  9 lorocyprocas
  4 deep elf death magi
  2 merfolk impalers
  7 blizzard demons
  A quicksilver dragon zombie (Dis:1)
  2 mummy priests
  10 green deaths
  2 jiangshi (Depths:1)
  6 deep elf high priests
  13 death oozes
  6 great orbs of eyes
  26 vault guards
  Erolcha (D:9)
  7 yaktaur captains
  Harold (Orc:2)
  15 naga warriors
  13 rakshasas
  2 spriggan air magi
  2 hydras
  10 hell beasts
  An anaconda (Snake:2)
  4 ice dragons
  7 centaur warriors
  An eidolon (Depths:1)
  An anaconda (shapeshifter) (D:14)
  10 two-headed ogres
  A catoblepas (D:13)
  4 ogre magi
  3 dancing weapons
  2 deep troll shamans
  14 hell hogs
  4 deep troll earth magi
  3 vampire magi
  3 tengu warriors
  A spriggan berserker (Depths:2)
  4 titan zombies
  3 storm dragon zombies
  2 titan skeletons
  13 naga sharpshooters
  4 spriggans (Depths:2)
  6 shock serpents
  A deep elf knight (Vaults:3)
  9 hell knights
  5 death scarabs (Depths:3)
  17 soul eaters
  Nergalle (D:11)
  42 sun demons
  8 shadow wraiths (Pan)
  A golden dragon zombie (Dis:2)
  16 sixfirhies
  38 skeletal warriors
  2 unseen horrors (D:14)
  25 deep trolls
  A glowing orange brain (shapeshifter) (D:15)
  15 cherubim
  A salamander mystic (Snake:3)
  A swamp dragon (shapeshifter) (Vaults:3)
  A storm dragon skeleton (Vaults:3)
  2 gelid demonspawn (Pan)
  8 glowing orange brains
  6 shadow demons
  A deep troll (shapeshifter) (D:15)
  2 anaconda zombies
  A flayed ghost (Dis:2)
  An obsidian statue (Depths:2)
  8 naga ritualists
  A putrid demonspawn (Pan)
  A deep elf archer (Vaults:1)
  7 ironbrand convokers
  31 large abominations
  A shadow dragon zombie (Dis:1)
  8 phantasmal warriors
  13 wizards
  2 necromancers
  7 orc knights
  2 wolf spider zombies
  29 zotlings
  4 harpies (Vaults:2)
  15 mana vipers
  A tengu skeleton (Depths:3)
  29 ugly things
  An iron dragon zombie (Dis:2)
  3 stone giant zombies
  4 orc sorcerers
  A hornet (shapeshifter) (Vaults:3)
  4 frost giant zombies
  A shining eye (Slime:4)
  3 oklob plants (Zot:3)
  8 salamanders
  5 cyclopes
  2 manticores
  A stone giant skeleton (Depths:3)
  2 dire elephant zombies
  A toenail golem (Dis:7)
  11 deep elf magi
  34 moths of wrath
  A frost giant skeleton (Dis:4)
  An iron dragon skeleton (Dis:3)
  11 guardian serpents (Snake:3)
  6 vault sentinels
  An elephant (shapeshifter) (D:15)
  13 naga magi
  66 rust devils
  37 smoke demons
  19 black mambas
  A molten gargoyle (D:12)
  A shock serpent zombie (Dis:7)
  An eye of devastation (Slime:4)
  A torpor snail (D:13)
  25 orange demons
  A dire elephant skeleton (Pan)
  2 catoblepas zombies
  4 gargoyles
  14 yaktaurs
  2 kobold demonologists (WizLab)
  9 efreet
  4 spiny frogs
  2 yaktaur zombies
  29 hellions
  A komodo dragon (shapeshifter) (D:15)
  A yaktaur (shapeshifter) (D:14)
  19 tormentors
  37 ice devils
  7 demonic crawlers
  2 hydra zombies
  51 hellwings
  2 meliai (shapeshifter) (Vaults:1)
  6 meliai (D:13)
  3 tengu conjurers
  13 trolls
  2 harpy zombies
  2 fire dragon zombies
  25 slime creatures
  11 blink frogs
  2 spriggan zombies
  An ice dragon zombie (Dis:2)
  2 ettin zombies
  An alligator skeleton (Dis:4)
  Sigmund (D:6)
  3 air elementals (Depths:3)
  An ettin skeleton (Dis:4)
  3 wraiths
  13 ynoxinuls
  2 shadows
  2 wyverns
  7 water elementals
  2 yaks
  4 fire elementals
  A basilisk (shapeshifter) (D:15)
  5 golden eyes
  2 angry ghosts
  A golden eye (shapeshifter) (D:14)
  2 steam dragons
  27 chaos spawn
  14 neqoxecs
  66 nagas
  2 nagas (shapeshifter)
  5 wargs
  6 small abominations
  4 acid dragons
  A water moccasin (D:9)
  5 hell hounds
  2 floating eyes
  2 spiny frog zombies
  2 ice beasts
  45 orc warriors
  A black bear (D:6)
  A phantom (D:5)
  33 ogres
  2 blink frog zombies
  4 wasps
  2 snapping turtle zombies
  4 boggarts
  An eye of draining (Dis:7)
  24 centaurs
  An elf zombie (Dis:5)
  2 big kobolds (D:15)
  11 gnoll sergeants
  A bullfrog (shapeshifter) (Vaults:1)
  A bullfrog (D:8)
  A wyvern zombie (D:6)
  A wyvern skeleton (D:7)
  A scorpion (D:3)
  A water moccasin skeleton (D:8)
  9 crimson imps
  8 killer bees (D:10)
  A troll zombie (Dis:1)
  12 wights
  A howler monkey (D:3)
  7 electric eels
  6 lava snakes (D:12)
  3 centaur zombies (D:10)
  8 hounds
  4 quasits
  43 jellies
  6 gnoll shamans (Bailey)
  28 orc priests
  A human zombie (Dis:1)
  9 centaur skeletons
  18 iron imps
  26 orc wizards
  6 worker ants
  An iguana (D:10)
  A hound skeleton (D:5)
  10 adders
  21 gnolls
  7 shadow imps
  6 white imps
  7 ufetubi
  4 oozes
  An adder skeleton (D:4)
  5 dart slugs
  87 orcs
  5 quokkas (D:3)
  2 giant cockroaches
  12 goblins
  6 hobgoblins
  8 jackals
  2 ball pythons
  8 bats
  6 frilled lizards
  5 kobolds
  8 rats
  3 fire vortices (Dis:7)
  2 plants (Depths:2)
2611 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (collateral kills)
  A troll (Orc:2)
  2 orc warriors
  2 ogres
  An orc priest (Orc:2)
  An orc wizard (Orc:1)
  16 orcs
23 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (others)
  4 eldritch tentacles
  A fire giant (Vaults:3)
  An iron dragon (Depths:2)
  A curse skull (Zot:5)
  6 stone giants
  A lorocyproca (Dis:1)
  2 yaktaur captains
  6 centaur warriors
  6 naga sharpshooters
  A moth of wrath (Zot:3)
  20 yaktaurs
  A troll (Depths:2)
  A spriggan zombie (Hell)
  A ynoxinul (Dis:7)
  A wasp (Depths:2)
  3 centaurs
  An iron imp (Dis:7)
  3 orc wizards
  A shadow imp (Dis:7)
  3 ball lightnings (Pan)
  A quokka (D:6)
  3 plants (D:10)
68 creatures vanquished.

Grand Total: 2702 creatures vanquished

Notes
Turn   | Place    | Note
-------+----------+-------------------------------------------
     0 | D:1      | kroki the Octopode Skald began the quest for the Orb.
     0 | D:1      | Reached XP level 1. HP: 14/14 MP: 3/3
   268 | D:1      | Reached XP level 2. HP: 19/19 MP: 2/4
   417 | D:1      | Learned a level 2 spell: Song of Slaying
   601 | D:1      | Reached skill level 3 in Unarmed Combat
  1510 | D:2      | Reached XP level 3. HP: 24/24 MP: 3/3
  1544 | D:2      | Found a radiant altar of Vehumet.
  1641 | D:2      | Found a basalt altar of Yredelemnul.
  1840 | D:2      | Reached skill level 1 in Stealth
  1873 | D:2      | Reached XP level 4. HP: 26/29 MP: 1/4
  1917 | D:2      | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha.
  1963 | D:2      | Found a faded altar of an unknown god.
  2048 | D:2      | Reached skill level 2 in Dodging
  2053 | D:2      | Learned a level 3 spell: Regeneration
  2245 | D:3      | Reached skill level 2 in Stealth
  2251 | D:3      | Reached XP level 5. HP: 35/35 MP: 2/5
  2352 | D:3      | Reached skill level 4 in Charms
  2609 | D:3      | Reached skill level 3 in Stealth
  2609 | D:3      | Reached XP level 6. HP: 34/41 MP: 1/1
  2723 | D:3      | Reached skill level 4 in Unarmed Combat
  2770 | D:3      | Found Gozag's Platinum Reserve.
  2774 | D:3      | Found an opulent altar of Gozag.
  2875 | D:3      | Found a deep blue altar of Sif Muna.
  3117 | D:4      | Reached skill level 3 in Fighting
  3270 | D:4      | Reached skill level 3 in Dodging
  3344 | D:4      | Reached XP level 7. HP: 34/46 MP: 0/2
  3350 | D:4      | Learned a level 4 spell: Ozocubu's Armour
  3373 | D:4      | Found a stormy altar of Qazlal.
  3476 | D:4      | Found a snail-covered altar of Cheibriados.
  3511 | D:4      | Found a viscous altar of Jiyva.
  3637 | D:4      | Found a hazy altar of Hepliaklqana.
  3637 | D:4      | Found a hide-covered altar of Uskayaw.
  3665 | D:4      | Reached skill level 5 in Unarmed Combat
  3786 | D:4      | Reached skill level 4 in Stealth
  3818 | D:4      | Found a shimmering altar of Xom.
  3861 | D:4      | Found a bloodstained altar of Trog.
  3864 | D:4      | Found a shadowy altar of Dithmenos.
  3867 | D:4      | Found a sacrificial altar of Ru.
  4121 | D:5      | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
  4132 | D:5      | Found an iron altar of Okawaru.
  4139 | D:5      | Reached skill level 1 in Ice Magic
  4157 | D:5      | Became a worshipper of Warmaster Okawaru
  4274 | D:5      | Reached skill level 2 in Ice Magic
  4316 | D:5      | Reached skill level 3 in Ice Magic
  4368 | D:5      | Reached XP level 8. HP: 29/52 MP: 2/4
  4381 | D:5      | Reached skill level 4 in Ice Magic
  4604 | D:5      | Found a glowing silver altar of Zin.
  4604 | D:5      | Found Zin's Purification Station.
  5130 | D:6      | Reached * piety under Okawaru
  5130 | D:6      | Reached skill level 5 in Ice Magic
  5476 | D:6      | Reached skill level 4 in Fighting
  5492 | D:6      | Noticed Sigmund
  5536 | D:6      | Found a white marble altar of Elyvilon.
  5554 | D:6      | Reached skill level 4 in Dodging
  5734 | D:6      | Reached ** piety under Okawaru
  5764 | D:6      | Reached XP level 9. HP: 49/59 MP: 2/2
  5917 | D:6      | Reached skill level 6 in Unarmed Combat
  5985 | D:6      | Reached skill level 6 in Ice Magic
  6021 | D:6      | Reached skill level 5 in Charms
  6101 | D:6      | Killed Sigmund
  6101 | D:6      | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting
  6101 | D:6      | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging
  6454 | D:7      | Found a burning altar of Makhleb.
  6842 | D:7      | Found a glowing golden altar of the Shining One.
  7488 | D:8      | Reached *** piety under Okawaru
  7488 | D:8      | Reached skill level 7 in Unarmed Combat
  7567 | D:8      | Reached skill level 5 in Stealth
  7571 | D:8      | Reached XP level 10. HP: 61/68 MP: 0/3
  7730 | D:9      | Noticed a black mamba
  7742 | D:9      | Killed a black mamba
  7742 | D:9      | Reached skill level 6 in Fighting
  7743 | D:9      | Noticed a spiny frog
  7789 | D:9      | Killed a spiny frog
  7789 | D:9      | Reached skill level 6 in Dodging
  7864 | D:9      | Reached skill level 6 in Stealth
  8168 | D:9      | Noticed Erolcha
  8170 | D:9      | Paralysed by Erolcha for 3 turns
  8184 | D:9      | Killed Erolcha
  8184 | D:9      | Reached **** piety under Okawaru
  8184 | D:9      | Reached skill level 8 in Unarmed Combat
  8309 | D:9      | Reached skill level 7 in Stealth
  8607 | D:10     | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon
  8784 | D:10     | Noticed a spiny frog
  8818 | D:10     | Noticed Urug
  8821 | D:10     | Killed a spiny frog
  8821 | D:10     | Reached skill level 2 in Evocations
  8907 | D:10     | Noticed Urug
  8907 | D:10     | Urug changed into Urug the mana viper
  8913 | D:10     | Killed Urug the mana viper
  8913 | D:10     | Reached skill level 4 in Evocations
  8913 | D:10     | Reached XP level 11. HP: 44/74 MP: 0/4
  8982 | D:10     | Reached ***** piety under Okawaru
  8982 | D:10     | Reached skill level 7 in Fighting
  8982 | D:10     | Reached skill level 7 in Dodging
  8982 | D:10     | Reached skill level 9 in Unarmed Combat
  9054 | D:10     | Reached skill level 1 in Invocations
  9056 | D:10     | Noticed a two-headed ogre
  9085 | D:10     | Killed a two-headed ogre
 47472 | Dis:7    | Killed Zon Isec the pandemonium lord
 47496 | Dis:7    | Reached skill level 17 in Necromancy
 47608 | Dis:7    | Noticed Dispater
 47619 | Dis:7    | Killed Dispater
 47639 | Dis:7    | Got an iron rune of Zot
 47697 | Dis:7    | kroki: alright that was kinda cool
 47697 | Dis:7    | murphy: gg
 47697 | Dis:7    | murphy: :)
 47697 | Dis:7    | kroki: fire storm at 26% heh
 47697 | Dis:7    | kroki: thanks for watching
 47702 | Dis:7    | Lost mutation: You passively map the area around you. [potion of mutation]
 47702 | Dis:7    | Lost mutation: Your flesh is cold resistant. (rC+) [potion of mutation]
 47702 | Dis:7    | Gained mutation: You are resistant to hostile enchantments. (MR+) [potion of mutation]
 47702 | Dis:7    | Lost mutation: You occasionally shout uncontrollably at your foes. [potion of mutation]
 47702 | Dis:7    | Lost mutation: You have a beak for a mouth. [potion of mutation]
 47702 | Dis:7    | Gained mutation: You are covered in thick fur. (AC +4) [potion of mutation]
 47703 | Dis:7    | Lost mutation: You are covered in thick fur. (AC +4) [potion of mutation]
 47703 | Dis:7    | Lost mutation: You are resistant to hostile enchantments. (MR+) [potion of mutation]
 47703 | Dis:7    | Lost mutation: Potions are less effective at restoring your health. [potion of mutation]
 47703 | Dis:7    | Lost mutation: Your flesh is heat resistant. (rF+) [potion of mutation]
 47703 | Dis:7    | Lost mutation: You have a pair of small antennae on your head. [potion of mutation]
 47703 | Dis:7    | Gained mutation: One of your tentacles bears a nasty spike. [potion of mutation]
 47703 | Dis:7    | Gained mutation: Your spells are a little easier to cast, but a little less powerful. [potion of mutation]
 47703 | Dis:7    | Gained mutation: You are robust. (+10% HP) [potion of mutation]
 47703 | Dis:7    | Gained mutation: You have an increased reservoir of magic. (+10% MP) [potion of mutation]
 47704 | Dis:7    | Lost mutation: One of your tentacles bears a nasty spike. [potion of mutation]
 47704 | Dis:7    | Lost mutation: Your spells are a little easier to cast, but a little less powerful. [potion of mutation]
 47704 | Dis:7    | Gained mutation: Potions are less effective at restoring your health. [potion of mutation]
 47704 | Dis:7    | Gained mutation: You are covered in thick fur. (AC +4) [potion of mutation]
 47705 | Dis:7    | Lost mutation: You are robust. (+10% HP) [potion of mutation]
 47705 | Dis:7    | Lost mutation: You are covered in thick fur. (AC +4) [potion of mutation]
 47705 | Dis:7    | Lost mutation: You have an increased reservoir of magic. (+10% MP) [potion of mutation]
 47705 | Dis:7    | Lost mutation: Potions are less effective at restoring your health. [potion of mutation]
 47705 | Dis:7    | Gained mutation: Your flesh is heat resistant. (rF+) [potion of mutation]
 47705 | Dis:7    | Gained mutation: Your natural rate of healing is unusually fast. [potion of mutation]
 47705 | Dis:7    | Gained mutation: One of your tentacles bears a nasty spike. [potion of mutation]
 47705 | Dis:7    | Gained mutation: Your muscles are strong. (Str +5) [potion of mutation]
 47706 | Dis:7    | Lost mutation: Your muscles are strong. (Str +5) [potion of mutation]
 47706 | Dis:7    | Lost mutation: Your natural rate of healing is unusually fast. [potion of mutation]
 47706 | Dis:7    | Lost mutation: One of your tentacles bears a nasty spike. [potion of mutation]
 47706 | Dis:7    | Lost mutation: Your flesh is heat resistant. (rF+) [potion of mutation]
 47706 | Dis:7    | Gained mutation: Your natural rate of healing is unusually fast. [potion of mutation]
 47706 | Dis:7    | Gained mutation: Your spells are a little harder to cast, but a little more powerful. [potion of mutation]
 47706 | Dis:7    | Gained mutation: One of your tentacles bears a nasty spike. [potion of mutation]
 47709 | Dis:$    | Escaped with the Orb!
             

Skill      XL: |  1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 |
---------------+----------------------------------------------------------------------------------+-----
Unarmed Combat |     3           4  5     7  8  9 10 11 13    14 15 16 17 18    19    20 21 22    | 22.0
Stealth        |        1  2  3     4     5  7                                               8 16 | 16.5
Dodging        |           2     3     4  5  6  8  9 10 12    13 14 15 16 17             18 21 22 | 22.2
Charms         |              4           5                                   8 10             15 | 15.8
Fighting       |                 3     4  5  6  8  9 10 12    13 15 16 19 20                   26 | 26.1
Ice Magic      |                    3  5  6                                                       |  6.5
Evocations     |                             4                                                  9 |  9.0
Invocations    |                                5                                            6 14 | 14.6
Shields        |                                3  7  9 10                                        | 10.0
Transmutations |                                            5  6                                  |  6.7
Earth Magic    |                                            6  7                                  |  7.3
Hexes          |                                            1                             6       |  6.5
Spellcasting   |                                            4                       7 10 12    21 | 21.0
Fire Magic     |                                                             13 16 17             | 17.2
Summonings     |                                                                 3  5  8  9       |  9.5
Air Magic      |                                                                    9 10          | 10.0
Translocations |                                                                               15 | 15.6
Necromancy     |                                                                               17 | 17.6

Action                   |  1- 3 |  4- 6 |  7- 9 | 10-12 | 13-15 | 16-18 | 19-21 | 22-24 | 25-27 || total
-------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------++-------
Melee: Unarmed           |    37 |    71 |   252 |   533 |   899 |   635 |   445 |   665 |  2393 ||  5930
       Constrict         |    11 |    15 |    36 |    65 |   130 |    53 |    84 |    73 |   314 ||   781
       Tentacles         |     4 |    11 |    40 |    90 |   170 |    98 |    96 |   138 |   424 ||  1071
       Punch             |       |     2 |    11 |    51 |   113 |    68 |    95 |   108 |   364 ||   812
       Peck              |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |   137 ||   137
       Kick              |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |    22 ||    22
Throw: Tomahawk          |    16 |   100 |    71 |     6 |    61 |       |       |       |       ||   254
       Javelin           |       |       |       |     4 |    71 |       |       |       |       ||    75
       Curare dart       |       |       |       |       |    10 |       |       |    10 |       ||    20
 Cast: Infusion          |     1 |       |     1 |       |     1 |       |       |       |       ||     3
       Song of Slaying   |     1 |       |       |       |       |       |       |     1 |     3 ||     5
       Regeneration      |       |     1 |       |       |       |       |       |     1 |     2 ||     4
       Ozocubu's Armour  |       |       |     1 |       |       |       |       |       |       ||     1
       Summon Ice Beast  |       |       |       |       |    30 |     2 |       |       |       ||    32
       Statue Form       |       |       |       |       |     1 |       |     1 |     1 |     2 ||     5
       Ring of Flames    |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |     2 |     2 ||     4
       Deflect Missiles  |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |     1 |     2 ||     3
       Darkness          |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |     3 ||     3
       Controlled Blink  |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |     1 ||     1
Invok: Finesse           |       |       |       |       |       |     1 |     3 |     3 |    30 ||    37
 Abil: End Infusion      |       |       |     1 |     1 |     1 |       |       |       |       ||     3
       End Ozocubu's Arm |       |       |       |       |     1 |       |       |       |       ||     1
       End Transformatio |       |       |       |       |       |       |     1 |       |       ||     1
       Stop Singing      |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |     1 ||     1
Evoke: Wand              |       |       |       |     3 |     6 |       |     6 |     3 |     1 ||    19
       Sack of spiders   |       |       |       |       |     1 |       |       |       |       ||     1
       Lamp of fire      |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |     1 ||     1
  Use: Potion            |       |       |       |     4 |       |     1 |     3 |     7 |    31 ||    46
       Scroll            |       |       |       |     6 |     1 |     2 |     7 |     5 |     6 ||    27
 Stab: Sleeping          |       |       |     2 |    13 |    27 |     5 |     7 |     5 |    35 ||    94
       Distracted        |       |       |       |     1 |     4 |     2 |     5 |     4 |     5 ||    21
       Petrified         |       |       |       |       |     3 |       |       |       |       ||     3
       Petrifying        |       |       |       |       |     1 |       |       |       |       ||     1
Armor: Skin              |     7 |     1 |    28 |    58 |    40 |   105 |    42 |    98 |   245 ||   624
Dodge: Dodged            |    18 |    50 |   186 |   511 |   435 |   512 |   316 |   728 |  1952 ||  4708
       Deflected         |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |     3 |    36 ||    39
Block: Buckler           |       |       |    23 |    71 |       |       |       |       |       ||    94
       Shield            |       |       |       |   116 |   679 |   891 |   528 |   965 |  2869 ||  6048
       Reflection        |       |       |       |       |    57 |   171 |    79 |    86 |    78 ||   471

Vault maps used:
D:1:      elethiomel_arrival_shortcut, serial_corexii_hall,
          corexii_hall_statues_deadend, corexii_hall_statues_s,
          hangedman_decor_push, amethyst_killhole, serial_bayou_lake_a
D:2:      vehumet_crystals, lemuel_round_altar, kiku_gazebo_garden_becter,
          chequers_ecumenical_altar_simple_redux
D:3:      nicolae_gozag_zags_fifth_avenue, led_sif_pool, minmay_unequal
D:4:      kennysheep_mini_moat, lemuel_round_altar,
          gammafunk_temple_overflow_wave, kennysheep_slug_shrine,
          lemuel_round_altar, hellmonk_temple_overflow_hourglass
D:5:      zin_purify, old_standard_altar, kennysheep_potato
D:6:      minmay_opposing_rooms, elyvilon_altar_4, uniq_sigmund
D:7:      lemuel_crystal_altar, nicolae_tso_swordbearing_angel
D:9:      uniq_erolcha
D:10:     cheibrodos_two_vegetables, uniq_urug
D:11:     enter_bailey_3, uniq_nergalle
D:12:     kennysheep_four_of_diamonds, serial_shops, shop,
          minmay_misc_feat_plants
D:13:     serial_shops, shop_fountains
D:14:     kennysheep_bubble_arena, kennysheep_nub
D:15:     gammafunk_enter_depths_forms, kennysheep_orc_monster_closet_entryway,
          david_vaults_2, minmay_misc_feat_diagonals
Snake:1:  basic_altar
Snake:3:  grunt_snake_rune_spirals, nrook_guardian_serpent_double
Orc:2:    grunt_orc_community_town_hall, grunt_orc_community_big_house_1,
          grunt_orc_community_big_house_2, grunt_orc_community_house_1,
          grunt_orc_community_house_3, grunt_orc_community_house_3,
          grunt_orc_community_house_3, grunt_orc_community_house_2,
          grunt_orc_community_house_2, minmay_snake_entry_guardpost_small,
          slime_altar_1, serial_shops, nicolae_shop_trees, nicolae_shop_trees,
          nicolae_shop_behind_doors, shop, shop_fountains, uniq_harold
Elf:      minmay_elf_hall_dome
Vaults:1: hangedman_vaults_locks, v_rooms_6, nicolae_vaults_yaktaur_gun_rack,
          vaults_room_pool, nicolae_vaults_what_the_h, hangedman_vaults_maws,
          v_misc_30, nicolae_vaults_specimen_jars, vaults_dpeg_doors, v_misc_19,
          nicolae_vaults_little_ls
Vaults:2: v_misc_31, hangedman_vaults_trim, vaults_standard_mumra_lines,
          v_alt_pattern_1, nicolae_vaults_hallways_thing, grunt_vaults_focal,
          hangedman_vaults_corner, nicolae_vaults_border_crossing,
          nicolae_vaults_network_star, vaults_room_hallway,
          vaults_room_stairs_pillars, nicolae_vaults_little_squares_3,
          ontoclasm_vaults_gateway, basic_altar
Depths:1: portal_elf_entry_hangedman_elf_represent, minmay_misc_feat_square,
          infiniplex_enter_wizlab_spiral, minmay_acid_items, minmay_shop_grove
Depths:2: minmay_roctagon, small_statue_intersection, kennysheep_doodads,
          serial_bayou_pond_a, minivault_16
Depths:3: evilmike_zot_entry_hall, okawaru_ov_weapons_minmay,
          rand_demon_pan_entry_9, tgw_lugonu_bribe, uniq_mara
Dis:3:    door_vault
Dis:7:    iron_city_of_dis
Zot:1:    kennysheep_blocky_room, basic_altar, grunt_ministairs_5
Zot:2:    grunt_zot_stairs_mandelzot
Zot:3:    lemuel_acid_trip
Zot:4:    hellmonk_loss, hellmonk_shrikenado
Pan:      mnoleg_st, lom_lobon_grunt, nicolae_pan_sick_transit,
          nicolae_pan_mnolegish_4, evilmike_gloorx_vloq_box,
          evilmike_cerebov_lava, nicolae_pan_sigil_nadil, evilmike_holy_pan
Bailey:   bailey_polearm_gnolls_kennysheep, bailey
WizLab:   wizlab_demon

Table legend:
 A = Turns spent in this place as a percentage of turns spent in the
     entire game.
 B = Non-inter-level travel turns spent in this place as a percentage of
     non-inter-level travel turns spent in the entire game.
 C = Inter-level travel turns spent in this place as a percentage of
     turns spent in this place.
 D = Turns resting spent in this place as a percentage of non-inter-level
     travel turns spent in this place.
 E = Turns spent auto-exploring this place as a percentage of
     non-inter-level travel turns spent in this place.
 F = Non-inter-level travel turns spent in this place divided by the
     number of levels of this place that you've seen.

                   A       B       C       D       E               F
               +-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+----------------------
         Total | 100.0 | 100.0 |   0.2 |   0.5 |   6.7 |         578.0
       Dungeon |  29.0 |  29.0 |   0.3 |   0.6 |   8.3 |         569.3
     Snake Pit |   7.9 |   7.9 |   0.1 |   0.2 |   5.1 |         777.3
    Slime Pits |   0.9 |   0.9 |   0.0 |   0.0 |   0.0 |          64.0
  Orcish Mines |   3.3 |   3.3 |   0.7 |   0.2 |   8.0 |         480.5
   Elven Halls |   0.9 |   0.9 |   0.0 |   5.6 |  10.3 |         252.0
        Vaults |  11.2 |  11.2 |   0.1 |   0.2 |   7.9 |        1101.7
        Depths |   8.8 |   8.8 |   0.3 |   0.0 |   6.7 |         860.0
          Hell |   1.5 |   1.5 |   0.0 |   0.5 |   3.5 |         432.0
           Dis |  13.9 |  13.9 |   0.1 |   0.9 |   1.1 |         585.9
           Zot |   7.9 |   7.9 |   0.2 |   0.1 |   7.1 |         463.2
   Pandemonium |  13.0 |  13.0 |   0.0 |   0.4 |   8.7 |         765.6
        Bailey |   1.2 |   1.2 |   0.0 |   2.0 |  11.2 |         347.0
        Wizlab |   0.8 |   0.8 |   0.0 |   0.0 |   0.0 |         229.0
               +-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+----------------------

Table legend:
 A = Kills in this place as a percentage of kills in entire the game.
 B = Kills by you in this place as a percentage of kills by you in
     the entire game.
 C = Kills by friends in this place as a percentage of kills by
     friends in the entire game.
 D = Other kills in this place as a percentage of other kills in the
     entire game.
 E = Experience gained in this place as a percentage of experience
     gained in the entire game.
 F = Experience gained in this place divided by the number of levels of
     this place that you have seen.

                   A       B       C       D       E               F
               +-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+----------------------
         Total | 100.0 | 100.0 | 100.0 | 100.0 | 100.0 |       56028.9
       Dungeon |  16.1 |  16.4 |   0.0 |   8.2 |   2.8 |        5375.8
     Snake Pit |   7.1 |   7.1 |   0.0 |   9.8 |   3.8 |       36291.3
    Slime Pits |   0.8 |   0.8 |   0.0 |   0.0 |   1.4 |       10238.5
  Orcish Mines |   5.6 |   4.8 | 100.0 |   3.3 |   0.5 |        7118.5
   Elven Halls |   0.9 |   0.9 |   0.0 |   0.0 |   1.2 |       34100.0
        Vaults |  10.4 |   9.8 |   0.0 |  41.0 |   9.0 |       85295.3
        Depths |   7.1 |   6.8 |   0.0 |  21.3 |   6.5 |       61659.0
          Hell |   3.0 |   3.0 |   0.0 |   1.6 |   3.6 |      102203.0
           Dis |  27.2 |  27.9 |   0.0 |   6.6 |  34.5 |      140910.7
           Zot |  10.4 |  10.7 |   0.0 |   3.3 |  23.8 |      136238.0
   Pandemonium |   9.7 |   9.9 |   0.0 |   4.9 |  12.3 |       70036.2
        Bailey |   1.1 |   1.2 |   0.0 |   0.0 |   0.0 |        1223.0
        Wizlab |   0.6 |   0.7 |   0.0 |   0.0 |   0.6 |       16639.0
               +-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+----------------------


pretty happy with my first all runer. pity i didnt find haste this run

Ziggurat Zagger

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Joined: Friday, 25th November 2011, 07:36

Post Tuesday, 28th November 2017, 22:49

Re: [proclick] new fork, hellcrawl

In the dungeon overview (control + o) there's a line that says: (use Ctrl-F "altar" to reach them and ?/G for information about gods).

With the removal of upstairs, isn't it impossible to go back to altars not on the current floor? I ask this partially for my own information and also partially because the line is a (minor) lie now...

Crypt Cleanser

Posts: 682

Joined: Monday, 29th September 2014, 09:04

Post Wednesday, 29th November 2017, 02:24

Re: [proclick] new fork, hellcrawl

If you find an altar on the current floor, it will show up when you search 'altar' in ctrl-f, and it would indeed auto-travel you to it. So it's not technically a lie but at a (now) basically pointless feature.

Spider Stomper

Posts: 204

Joined: Saturday, 20th September 2014, 07:40

Post Thursday, 30th November 2017, 10:15

Re: [proclick] new fork, hellcrawl

Xom is a little too powerful right now I think (as dumb as that sounds), due to timed portal areas and Pandemonium not being affected by doom timer. Basically you can wait indefinitely for Xom effects and the only really dangerous effects you can get hit by are getting abyssed and maybe some hostile summons while you're too underleveled, and it's not too hard to get a rough idea on what you need to avoid dying. On the other hand the good effects include massive good mutation sets (near omni-resistance and robust 3 for example), more gold than you'll ever need and a bunch of random acquirement-tier stuff well before you enter orcish mines.

An easy fix could be to just enforce a doom timer on every level and it'll probably be fine. You can "juice" a current floor by pressing "5" until doom timer hits 0 but it's not nearly as good as having unlimited time to scum.

Swamp Slogger

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Post Thursday, 30th November 2017, 16:20

Re: [proclick] new fork, hellcrawl

bananaken wrote:Xom is a little too powerful right now I think (as dumb as that sounds), due to timed portal areas and Pandemonium not being affected by doom timer. Basically you can wait indefinitely for Xom effects and the only really dangerous effects you can get hit by are getting abyssed and maybe some hostile summons while you're too underleveled, and it's not too hard to get a rough idea on what you need to avoid dying. On the other hand the good effects include massive good mutation sets (near omni-resistance and robust 3 for example), more gold than you'll ever need and a bunch of random acquirement-tier stuff well before you enter orcish mines.

An easy fix could be to just enforce a doom timer on every level and it'll probably be fine. You can "juice" a current floor by pressing "5" until doom timer hits 0 but it's not nearly as good as having unlimited time to scum.


I dunno is this really all THAT strong. I mean I kind of doubt even the rather nice set of mutations you mention is actually stronger than the ability sets of some Gods. For example even though its controversial and some people hate him I still think a correctly setup Qazlal is stronger than what you mention. Now both gods have a significant downside, so for the sake of argument, let's just say the craziness of Xom and the noise of Qaz are roughly equivalent in negativity. I would still say the upside of Qaz is stronger. I think I would say the same of Sif, but there is no downside.

I agree it sounds kind of dumb, but I am not really convinced a nice mutation set is actually all that OP. Maybe the equipment is I guess I am not that sure on that, I guess if that had a clock similar to other gift giving gods it wouldn't matter.

Spider Stomper

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Post Thursday, 30th November 2017, 19:07

Re: [proclick] new fork, hellcrawl

severen wrote:I dunno is this really all THAT strong. I mean I kind of doubt even the rather nice set of mutations you mention is actually stronger than the ability sets of some Gods.


This is what I had with my gargoyle by the time I finished:

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You are quite resistant to negative energy. (rN++) <-- rN+ is innate
You have a pair of large antennae on your head. (SInv)
You have very sharp fingernails.
You have very sharp teeth.
You have claws for feet.
You are agile. (Dex +5)
You can translocate small distances at will.
You possess an exceptional clarity of mind.
Your flesh is very cold resistant. (rC++)
Your flesh is almost immune to the effects of heat. (rF+++)
You have a greatly increased reservoir of magic. (+30% MP)
You are resistant to hostile enchantments. (MR+)
Your natural rate of healing is unusually fast.
You are very robust. (+20% HP)
You are covered in thick fur. (AC +4)
Your muscles are strong. (Str +5)
Your spells are a little harder to cast, but a little more powerful.
Your movements are less encumbered by armour. (ER -6)
Shadows flee at your approach. (+LOS)
Your tricky nature makes your hexes more powerful.


This was at the end of the game after getting hit by bad mutations from orbs of fire, cacodemons, etc. so I started out a little better than that.

Everything else is functionally infinite gold and item acquirements just for idling; Xom stops being able to kill you through idling pretty early on. Plus, if hellcrawl is pursuing the idea of doom timers then it should be consistent and have them everywhere, I think that's uncontroversial..

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Ziggurat Zagger

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Post Friday, 1st December 2017, 02:41

Re: [proclick] new fork, hellcrawl

So I finally took the plunge and made a serious attempt at a hellcrawl character, and made it to vaults:3, but man did I feel underleveled for that floor.

Morgue is here: http://lazy-life.ddo.jp:8080/morgue-hel ... 022949.txt

I had just barely gotten statue form going, and as a result my physical skills were still a bit low (I would have been raising them next, but well, died). I'm not entirely sure if there's any point to "finishing" training statue form since it's now perm, I should probably just cast it once with wizardry, and then go immediately back into training unarmed/fighting/dodging? I noticed if you take off wizardry it does update the amount of mana that is reserved, but this character didn't care if more was reserved as statue form was my only spell. It would limit how many Chei skills I could use, but so does piety.

I'm mostly wondering about branch order and choices of what areas to go to - it seems like lair is completely removed? I did dungeon -> orc -> spider -> vaults. When you get to vaults 3 it offers slime again, so I'm wondering if that means you can skip vaults:3 and do slime to come back, or if you don't get the silver rune then you never will? Does Zot actually require a certain number of runes or is it possible to skip runes and just get the orb?

Found the lack of upstairs to be very, very brutal, but I suppose that was the intention. Vaults:3 (or 5 in main crawl) is a level I almost always stairdance. I did end up teleporting around the sides, but never quite managed to get enough time to heal - I was never completely alone. Had I found the regeneration spell I probably would have lived, but I never did (nor the amulet). Any tips for the whole no upstairs thing?

Spider Stomper

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Post Friday, 1st December 2017, 05:10

Re: [proclick] new fork, hellcrawl

As far as progression goes, if you're about to skip a branch and/or rune the game will notify you before proceeding. The branch order for a "full" 9-rune run is Dungeon->Orc->Lair sub-branch->Vaults->Slime->Depths->Pan->Zot but you can do stuff like Dungeon->Orc->Slime but that's obviously a lot more difficult since you'd be skipping out on a lot of XP and loot.

Found the lack of upstairs to be very, very brutal, but I suppose that was the intention. Vaults:3 (or 5 in main crawl) is a level I almost always stairdance. I did end up teleporting around the sides, but never quite managed to get enough time to heal - I was never completely alone. Had I found the regeneration spell I probably would have lived, but I never did (nor the amulet). Any tips for the whole no upstairs thing?

I think some source of regeneration is pretty crucial for prolonged fights like V:3, innate troll regeneration helps but he's also dealing with armor restrictions so you want an extra source usually.

I like using magic mapping because occasionally one of the quadrants will have a decent design to treat as a killhole. Barring that clustering enemies together and using immolation+slouch repeatedly or even facetanking a few explosions will overall buy you some time to retreat and recover a little despite all the noise. If that's not an option either a surprising amount of enemies are susceptible to wand on enslavement or other hexes (tengu reavers notably good targets), and if you've picked up vulnerability along the way you'll be able to enslave a lot of tanky targets giving you a bit more meat shields and breathing room. If you found any distortion weapons this is a good time to use them too.

As far as background choice, skalds are really strong in hellcrawl with the lack of upstairs since all of their starting spells are good for mitigating the disadvantages and they're all permabuffs. Song of slaying doesn't make as much noise as before and spectral weapon won't share damage so they're unlikely to inadvertently get you killed.

Lastly the exit to depths is always an option; it sucks to miss out on a bunch of loot and XP but depths is almost guaranteed to have more favorable terrain.

Spider Stomper

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Post Friday, 1st December 2017, 18:08

Re: [proclick] new fork, hellcrawl

FR: Alt+. (same key as >) to replicate the effect of G,>: auto-travel and descend the nearest staircase. Since G doesn't allow you to do that anymore.

bel

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Post Saturday, 2nd December 2017, 08:36

Re: [proclick] new fork, hellcrawl

I tend to not use "G->" anyway, but it is more dangerous in hellcrawl because you can't go back up. However, there's no harm in making a shortcut for people who want to live dangerously, or want to save a keypress.

bel

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Post Saturday, 2nd December 2017, 08:38

Re: [proclick] new fork, hellcrawl

The message about the portal ("quiet chatter", etc.) about Elf is in the "normal" color, and is hard to distinguish from the background messages. Perhaps make it bright yellow like the other messages.
Last edited by bel on Saturday, 2nd December 2017, 12:58, edited 1 time in total.

Temple Termagant

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Post Saturday, 2nd December 2017, 12:37

Re: [proclick] new fork, hellcrawl

id like to thank for the new demonspawn mutations and hope you plan to add even more of them. crystalline skin and constricting tentacle are my favourites. are ds mutation changes listed somewhere?

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 Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 5.2-4-g6121e92 (webtiles) character file.

173755382 kroki the End of an Era (level 27, 37/280 HPs)
             Began as a Demonspawn Skald on Dec 1, 2017.
             Was the Champion of Qazlal.
             Escaped with the Orb
             ... and 9 runes!
             
             The game lasted 01:00:23 (39710 turns).

kroki the End of an Era (Demonspawn Skald)         Turns: 39710, Time: 01:00:23

Health: 37/280     AC: 34 (39%)Str: 20  XL:     27
Magic:  15/16      EV: 36    Int: 24    God:    Qazlal [6*[188]]
Gold:   5698       SH: 53    Dex: 29    Spells: 21/42 levels left

rFire    + . .     SeeInvis .   X - +9 demon trident (pierce)
rCold    + + .     Faith    +   m - +8 large shield of Elyvilon's Approval {*Contam rN+ Regen+ Dex+3}
rNeg     + + .     Spirit   .   (armour currently unavailable)
rPois    ∞         Reflect  .   (helmet restricted)
rElec    +                      (cloak unavailable)
rCorr    .                      (gloves currently unavailable)
MR       +++..                  (boots currently unavailable)
Stlth    +.........             z - amulet of faith {Faith, !P}
Regen    10.6/turn              O - ring "Uhoyxzae" {rF+ rC+ MR+ Str+5}
MPRegen  0.3/turn               a - ring of Shadows {Umbra Dex+13}

@: statue-form (expiring), regenerating, wreathed by umbra, studying Bows, repel
missiles, spectral weapon, very slow
A: horns 2, slimy green scales 3, cold resistance 1, demonic guardian 3, frail
1, low mp 1, powered by death 3, wild magic 1, augmentation 3, MP-powered wands,
sturdy frame, prehensile tentacle 3
0: Orb of Zot
}: 9/15 runes: decaying, slimy, silver, icy, demonic, glowing, magical, fiery,
dark
a: End Regeneration, Stop Singing, End Spectral Weapon, End Transformation,
Upheaval, Cloud Surge, Disaster Area, Renounce Religion


You were on level 0 of Cocytus.
You worshipped Qazlal.
Qazlal was exalted by your worship.
You were not hungry.

You were a stone statue.

You visited 9 branches of the dungeon, and saw 43 of its levels.
You visited Pandemonium 1 time, and saw 5 of its levels.
You visited the Abyss 2 times.
You also visited: Sewer, Volcano and Elven Halls.

You collected 8801 gold pieces.
You spent 3103 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Hand Weapons
 X - a +9 demon trident of piercing (weapon)
   (You acquired it on level 2 of the Vaults)
Armour
 k - a +2 helmet
   (You took it off Samantha on level 2 of the Dungeon)
 m - the +8 large shield of Elyvilon's Approval (worn) {*Contam rN+ Regen+ Dex+3}
   (You took it off a daeva in Pandemonium)   
   
   It affects your dexterity (+3).
   It protects you from negative energy.
   It causes magical contamination when unequipped.
   It increases your rate of regeneration.
 p - the +0 pair of boots "Qoprimap" {Int+2}
   (You found it on level 3 of the Realm of Zot)   
   
   It affects your intelligence (+2).
 K - a +2 pair of gloves (melded)
   (You found it on level 3 of the Swamp)
 N - a +2 robe of the Archmagi (melded)
   (You took it off Pikel on level 9 of the Dungeon)
 S - a +2 pair of boots of flying (melded)
   (You bought it in a shop on level 13 of the Dungeon)
Magical Staves
 w - an uncursed staff of air {rElec}
   (You took it off Antaeus on level 7 of Cocytus)
Jewellery
 a - the ring of Shadows (right hand) {Umbra Dex+13}
   (You bought it in a shop on level 2 of the Orcish Mines)   
   
   [ring of evasion]
   
   It affects your dexterity (+13).
 r - a +6 ring of protection
   (You bought it in a shop on level 1 of the Orcish Mines)
 v - an uncursed ring of see invisible {sInv, !d}
   (You found it in Pandemonium)
 y - an uncursed amulet of rage {+Rage, !d}
   (You found it on level 4 of the Realm of Zot)
 z - an amulet of faith (around neck) {Faith, !P}
   (You bought it in a shop on level 2 of the Orcish Mines)
 F - an uncursed ring of protection from magic {MR+, !d}
   (You found it in the Elven Halls)
 H - an uncursed ring of resist corrosion
   (You found it on level 3 of the Swamp)
 M - an uncursed ring of fire {rF+, rC-}
   (You found it on level 4 of the Pits of Slime)
 O - the ring "Uhoyxzae" (left hand) {rF+ rC+ MR+ Str+5}
   (You found it in the Elven Halls)   
   
   [ring of protection from magic]
   
   It affects your strength (+5).
   It protects you from fire.
   It protects you from cold.
   It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments.
 R - an uncursed ring of wizardry {Wiz+, !d}
   (You found it on level 3 of the Vaults)
 T - an uncursed ring of ice {rC+, rF-}
   (You found it on level 4 of the Pits of Slime)
Wands
 n - a wand of acid (3)
 x - a wand of disintegration (17)
 U - a wand of digging (7)
 W - a wand of confusion (8)
Scrolls
 c - 17 scrolls of teleportation
 f - 4 scrolls of blinking {!r}
 g - 9 scrolls of enchant armour
 h - 5 scrolls of enchant weapon
 l - 2 scrolls of magic mapping {!r}
 t - 7 scrolls of fog
 D - 11 scrolls of amnesia
 P - 3 scrolls of immolation {!r}
 Z - 5 scrolls of fear
Potions
 d - 11 potions of lignification
 i - 10 potions of cancellation
 j - 4 potions of invisibility
 o - 9 potions of resistance
 u - 4 potions of berserk rage {!q}
 B - 10 potions of augmentation
 E - 2 potions of magic
 J - 24 potions of curing
 L - 10 potions of heal wounds
 Q - a potion of flight
 Y - 2 potions of ambrosia
Books
 G - a manual of Bows {!d}
   (You found it in the Elven Halls)
Miscellaneous
 b - 6 sacks of spiders
 e - a crystal ball of energy
   (You found it in the Elven Halls)
 q - a lamp of fire
   (You found it on level 4 of the Pits of Slime)
 s - a fan of gales
   (You found it in Pandemonium)
 A - a disc of storms
   (You found it on level 3 of the Vaults)
 C - 9 boxes of beasts
 I - a phantom mirror
 V - a phial of floods
   (You found it on level 3 of the Vaults)


   Skills:
 + Level 24.5 Fighting
 - Level 14.0 Polearms
 - Level 1.5 Armour
 + Level 23.0 Dodging
 + Level 21.8 Shields
 - Level 8.3 Spellcasting
 - Level 11.5 Charms
 - Level 10.3 Summonings
 - Level 5.8 Translocations
 - Level 9.9 Transmutations
 - Level 0.5 Fire Magic
 - Level 5.5 Ice Magic
 - Level 11.3 Earth Magic
 O Level 27 Invocations
 - Level 4.5 Evocations


You had 21 spell levels left.
You knew the following spells:

 Your Spells              Type           Power        Failure   Level  Hunger
a - Infusion              Chrm           25 (25)      1%          1    N/A
b - Statue Form           Tmut/Erth      68 (150)     24%         6    N/A
r - Regeneration          Chrm/Necr      49 (200)     4%          3    N/A
z - Spectral Weapon       Chrm/Summ      69 (100)     4%          5    N/A
A - Ozocubu's Armour      Chrm/Ice       61 (100)     4%          4    N/A
S - Song of Slaying       Chrm           71 (100)     1%          2    N/A


Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (15/15)             Swamp (3/3) Orc:2         Slime (4/4) Orc:2 Vaults:3
    Orc (2/2) D:15         Vaults (3/3) D:15 Swamp:3 Depths (3/3) D:15 Slime:4 Vaults:3
   Hell (1/1)                 Coc (7/7) Hell            Zot (5/5) Depths:3
 Snake: Orc:2       Spider: Orc:2          Dis: Hell:1         Geh: Hell:1
   Tar: Hell:1     

Altars:
Cheibriados
Dithmenos
Elyvilon
Gozag
Hepliaklqana
Jiyva
Kikubaaqudgha
Makhleb
Okawaru
Qazlal
Ru
Sif Muna
Trog
Uskayaw
Vehumet
Xom
Yredelemnul
Zin
The Shining One

Shops:
D:13 [   Orc:1 *:=!!   Orc:2 =([*   Vaults:1 ?   Vaults:2 }   Depths:1 ?

Portals:
Hell: Zot:5
Pandemonium: Depths:1 Depths:3

Annotations:
Slime:3 Dissolution
Hell exclusion: 2 ice statues


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

(You are completely covered in slimy green scales. (AC +4, rPois))
A powerful demonic guardian rushes to your aid.
You regenerate a lot of health from kills.
Your magical and physical power is greatly enhanced at high health.
Your prehensile tentacle constricts enemies.
You have a pair of horns on your head.
Your flesh is cold resistant. (rC+)
You are frail. (-10% HP)
Your magical capacity is low. (-10% MP)
Your spells are a little harder to cast, but a little more powerful.
You expend magic power (3 MP) to strengthen your wands.
Your movements are less encumbered by armour. (ER -6)


Message History

Aim: an Orb Guardian (sparse dust, umbra)
You reach to attack!
You stick the Orb Guardian like a pincushion (43)!!!
Your spectral weapon is engulfed in freezing vapours (1).
Your spectral weapon barely misses the Orb Guardian.
Your spectral weapon is engulfed in freezing vapours (1).
The Orb Guardian closely misses your spectral weapon.
Your spectral weapon is engulfed in freezing vapours (3).
Pava comes into view.
There are monsters nearby!
You skewer the Orb Guardian like a kebab (39)!!!
You kill the Orb Guardian!
Qazlal accepts your kill.
Your spectral weapon is engulfed in freezing vapours (2).
Your spectral weapon is engulfed in freezing vapours (1).
Pava conjures an orb of pure magic.
The Orb Guardian closely misses your spectral weapon.
An ice dragon and an orb of destruction come into view.
There are monsters nearby!
You perforate the frost giant like a sieve (67)!!!
You hear a shout!
Your spectral weapon is engulfed in freezing vapours (1).
Your spectral weapon hits the frost giant (3).
The Orb Guardian hits your spectral weapon (31)!!
Your spectral weapon fades away.
Your Executioner hits the frost giant (7)!
Your Executioner hits the frost giant but does no damage.
Your Executioner hits the frost giant (8)!
Pava gestures.
Pava flickers and vanishes!
Deactivating autopickup; reactivate with Ctrl-A.
The frost giant completely misses your Executioner.
You block the frost giant's attack.
The ice dragon barely misses your Executioner.
The ice dragon claws your Executioner (5).
The ice dragon tramples your Executioner (3).
Your Executioner holds its ground!
There are monsters nearby!
You draw out your weapon's spirit!
You catch the helpless frost giant completely off-guard!
You skewer the frost giant like a kebab (42)!!!
You kill the frost giant!
Qazlal accepts your kill.
You hear a splash. x2
You block the orb of destruction. The orb of destruction dissipates.
Something hits your Executioner but does no damage.
Your Executioner hits something (27)!!
Your Executioner hits something but does no damage. x2
The Orb Guardian is engulfed in freezing vapours (9).
You block the Orb Guardian's attack. Something hits your Executioner (38)!!!
Your Executioner hits something (9)!
Your Executioner hits something but does no damage. x2
There are monsters nearby!
You perforate the Orb Guardian like a sieve (43)!!!
You squeeze the Orb Guardian (4).
Your spectral weapon hits the Orb Guardian from afar (5).
The Orb Guardian is engulfed in freezing vapours (6).
You block the Orb Guardian's attack.
Your Executioner hits something but does no damage. x3
Something barely misses your Executioner.
The ice dragon is engulfed in freezing vapours (3).
The ice dragon bites your Executioner (3).
The ice dragon misses your Executioner.
The ice dragon completely misses your Executioner.
There are monsters nearby!
You skewer the Orb Guardian like a kebab (37)!!!
You kill the Orb Guardian!
Qazlal accepts your kill.
Your Dodging skill increases to level 23!
You hear a shout!
Your Executioner hits something (11)!
Your Executioner hits something but does no damage.
Your Executioner barely misses something.
The dungeon rumbles around something!
The ice devil shudders (65).
The ice devil dies!
The ice dragon shudders (10).
Your Executioner shudders (67).
Your Executioner dies!
You shudder from the earth-shattering force (176).
Ouch! That really hurt!
Something shudders (36). Something shudders (167).
You feel a bit more experienced. Something shudders (88).
You feel a bit more experienced.
Ka-crash! The dungeon rumbles around something!
The ice dragon shudders (32).
You shudder from the earth-shattering force (69).
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
Something shudders (63). You feel a bit more experienced.
Ka-crash!
You take 245 damage, and have 35/280 hp.
MASSIVE DAMAGE!!
You hear a roar!
The ice dragon breathes frost at you.
The blast of cold hits something (15). The blast of cold hits you! You resist.
That hurt (14)!
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
Something conjures a glowing orb.
You block the orb of destruction.
You have escaped!

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trident of piercing.

Vanquished Creatures
  the Royal Jelly (Slime:4)
  Antaeus (Coc:7)
  Gloorx Vloq (Pan)
  Lom Lobon (Pan)
  Mnoleg (Pan)
  3 seraphim
  5 orbs of fire
  Mara (Depths:1)
  14 pandemonium lords
  Mennas (Pan)
  6 ancient liches
  4 Killer Klowns
  Sojobo (Vaults:3)
  6 cool robins
  5 curse toes
  2 acid robins (Zot:3)
  An elevengu (Pan)
  A diesel robin (Zot:5)
  A THE GIAGGOSTUONO (Zot:5)
  Geryon (Hell)
  11 golden dragons
  2 pearl dragons (Pan)
  8 antimatter elves
  2 bone dragons
  3 electric golems
  3 giant giants
  6 Shadow Fiends
  12 Ice Fiends
  A zotbot (Zot:2)
  13 ghost robins
  Jorgrun (Depths:1)
  5 Brimstone Fiends
  50 Orb Guardians
  8 liches
  A hellephant (Hell)
  3 quicksilver dragons
  A quicksilver dragon (shapeshifter) (Vaults:3)
  7 titans
  Asterion (Vaults:1)
  2 deep elf blademasters (Elf)
  4 deep elf master archers (Elf)
  5 subtractor snakes
  21 acid blobs
  3 tentacled starspawn
  14 death cobs
  15 Executioners
  5 iron trolls
  4 tentacled monstrosities
  8 plutonium crabs
  6 shadow dragons
  A sphinx (Depths:1)
  6 Orb Childs
  4 ancient champions
  7 tengu reavers
  A thorn hunter (Swamp:3)
  6 storm dragons
  5 fire giants
  10 deep elf sorcerers
  7 azure jellies
  10 daevas (Pan)
  8 vault wardens
  2 corrupters (Pan)
  2 deep elf elementalists (Elf)
  21 frost giants
  An imperial myrmidon (Vaults:3)
  3 iron dragons
  12 balrugs
  7 ghost moths
  An orc warlord (Orc:2)
  16 angels
  5 curse skulls
  5 spriggan defenders
  19 cacodemons
  9 mutatatotots
  10 reapers
  12 stone giants
  2 elemental wellsprings (Coc:7)
  5 ironheart preservers
  2 revenants
  5 war gargoyles
  34 very ugly things
  17 apis (Pan)
  9 ophanim (Pan)
  5 deep elf demonologists
  11 deep elf annihilators
  3 lorocyprocas
  A halazid warlock (Vaults:1)
  3 spark wasps (Depths:2)
  2 merfolk impalers (Depths:1)
  27 blizzard demons
  7 green deaths
  A mummy priest (Depths:3)
  6 deep elf death magi
  10 ettins
  A crystal guardian (Vaults:3)
  A quicksilver dragon zombie (Hell)
  10 death oozes
  3 fire dragons
  10 yaktaur captains
  11 great orbs of eyes
  A quicksilver dragon skeleton (Coc:6)
  7 deep elf high priests
  4 hell beasts
  3 eidola (Depths:2)
  10 ice dragons
  10 hydras
  A ghost crab (Swamp:2)
  4 spriggan air magi
  5 centaur warriors
  6 rakshasas
  20 vault guards
  8 deep troll shamans
  6 alligators
  3 two-headed ogres (D:15)
  A vampire mage (Depths:1)
  A tengu warrior (D:15)
  A death yak (D:14)
  A dancing weapon (Vaults:3)
  A thrashing horror (Swamp:3)
  2 deep troll earth magi
  3 hell hogs (Hell)
  2 orc high priests
  2 shock serpents (Pan)
  3 storm dragon zombies
  6 soul eaters
  A hell knight (Depths:3)
  A titan zombie (Coc:6)
  3 deep elf knights
  2 death scarabs (Depths:1)
  3 spriggan berserkers
  30 sun demons
  8 shadow wraiths
  13 sixfirhies
  2 titan skeletons
  28 skeletal warriors
  4 wretched stars (Abyss:2)
  A spark wasp zombie (Hell)
  9 cherubim
  A ghost moth zombie (Coc:3)
  7 wizards
  A deep elf archer (Vaults:3)
  2 gelid demonspawn (Pan)
  A flayed ghost (Depths:2)
  A spriggan druid (Swamp:2)
  4 glowing orange brains
  6 shadow demons
  An unseen horror (D:14)
  An anaconda zombie (Coc:7)
  12 deep trolls
  2 tengu zombies (Hell)
  2 golden dragon zombies
  2 shadow dragon zombies
  2 shambling mangroves
  9 ironbrand convokers
  2 anaconda skeletons
  5 necromancers
  2 phantasmal warriors (Vaults:3)
  9 swamp dragons
  5 orc knights
  3 harpies (D:14)
  2 iron dragon zombies
  A lindwurm (shapeshifter) (Vaults:1)
  22 large abominations
  7 deep elf magi
  A golden dragon skeleton (Coc:7)
  A manticore (D:14)
  A hornet (shapeshifter) (D:15)
  5 shining eyes
  A shadow dragon skeleton (Coc:1)
  2 cyclopes
  A manticore (shapeshifter) (D:15)
  32 zotlings
  A frost giant zombie (Coc:1)
  2 hornets
  24 moths of wrath
  25 ugly things
  6 stone giant zombies
  2 iron dragon skeletons
  3 dire elephant zombies
  A black mamba (shapeshifter) (Vaults:1)
  Joseph (D:7)
  A fire giant skeleton (Pan)
  2 black mambas
  An orb spider (shapeshifter) (Abyss:2)
  22 smoke demons
  13 vault sentinels
  An orb spider (Zot:2)
  12 rust devils
  5 centaur skeletons
  15 orange demons
  5 titan simulacra (Coc:7)
  An eye of devastation (Abyss:2)
  A toenail golem (Coc:7)
  A gargoyle (D:15)
  4 storm dragon simulacra (Coc:7)
  A torpor snail (D:13)
  A spiny frog (shapeshifter) (Vaults:2)
  A naga mage (D:15)
  3 spiny frogs
  An ice statue (Coc:7)
  11 hellions
  A yaktaur zombie (Hell)
  3 rime drakes
  A dire elephant skeleton (Coc:7)
  5 demonic crawlers (Pan)
  2 catoblepas zombies
  4 anaconda simulacra (Coc:7)
  31 ice devils
  2 guardian mummies (Zot:3)
  6 tormentors
  A catoblepas skeleton (Coc:7)
  An ancient zyme (Abyss:2)
  3 spriggan zombies (Hell)
  10 freezing wraiths
  6 efreet
  A queen bee (shapeshifter) (Vaults:1)
  19 hellwings
  23 yaktaurs
  A harpy zombie (Coc:7)
  3 jumping spiders (Zot:2)
  9 trolls
  3 meliai (D:13)
  A meliai (shapeshifter) (Abyss:3)
  2 tyrant leeches (Swamp:2)
  6 hydra zombies
  8 raiju (Abyss:2)
  41 slime creatures
  7 alligator zombies
  2 hydra skeletons
  A minotaur skeleton (Volcano)
  4 blink frogs
  11 bog bodies
  2 deep troll zombies (Hell)
  A meliai zombie (D:14)
  5 ettin skeletons
  2 flying skulls (Volcano)
  6 ettin zombies
  2 alligator skeletons
  4 shadows
  3 air elementals (Depths:3)
  A spriggan (Depths:1)
  4 vampires
  A centaur simulacrum (D:15)
  2 tarantellas (Zot:2)
  14 ynoxinuls
  7 water elementals
  3 wyverns
  9 fire elementals (Hell)
  A golden eye (shapeshifter) (Vaults:1)
  12 yaks
  An angry ghost (D:10)
  21 golden eyes
  15 humans (D:15)
  9 chaos spawn
  26 neqoxecs
  2 steam dragons
  Menkaure (Volcano)
  11 vampire mosquitoes
  7 wargs
  13 swamp worms
  A naga (shapeshifter) (Vaults:3)
  4 hydra simulacra (Coc:7)
  An acid dragon (D:14)
  5 spiny frog zombies
  A merfolk skeleton (Volcano)
  4 floating eyes
  3 two-headed ogre skeletons (Volcano)
  2 spiny frog skeletons
  An alligator simulacrum (Coc:7)
  22 orc warriors
  4 swamp drakes
  A slave (D:9)
  3 snapping turtle zombies
  3 black bears
  5 eyes of draining
  6 starcursed masses (Abyss:2)
  13 wasps
  11 ogres
  A wolf (shapeshifter) (D:13)
  A swamp dragon skeleton (Coc:6)
  15 centaurs
  2 manticore skeletons
  4 blink frog skeletons
  A rime drake zombie (D:12)
  4 elf zombies
  4 bullfrogs
  2 wyvern zombies
  2 wyvern skeletons
  5 small abominations
  2 scorpions
  A water moccasin skeleton (D:6)
  3 killer bees (D:11)
  8 crimson imps
  A troll skeleton (Volcano)
  2 spriggan skeletons (Volcano)
  4 wights (D:7)
  2 howler monkeys
  7 jellies
  6 quasits
  9 orc priests
  3 gnoll shamans
  9 centaur zombies
  A hound (D:8)
  13 orc wizards
  A bullfrog skeleton (D:6)
  3 iron imps
  4 worker ants
  2 iguanas
  An ogre skeleton (Volcano)
  2 naga skeletons
  2 hound skeletons
  2 mummies (Volcano)
  Samantha (D:2)
  9 adders
  45 gnolls
  6 shadow imps
  4 white imps
  3 ufetubi (Hell)
  10 oozes
  An adder zombie (D:1)
  4 ball lightnings (Pan)
  3 dart slugs
  50 orcs
  2 quokkas
  16 giant cockroaches
  12 goblins
  10 hobgoblins
  21 jackals
  15 ball pythons (Sewer)
  7 bats
  14 frilled lizards
  6 kobolds
  A quokka zombie (D:1)
  17 rats
  108 spectral weapons
2184 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (collateral kills)
  An orb of fire (Zot:5)
  2 Killer Klowns
  An ancient lich (Zot:3)
  A cool robin (Coc:7)
  An acid robin (Zot:3)
  2 golden dragons
  A pandemonium lord (Coc:6)
  the Enchantress (Depths:1)
  A giant giant (Zot:3)
  A Hell Sentinel (Coc:1)
  A lich (Coc:6)
  2 ghost robins
  4 Orb Guardians (Zot:5)
  A deep elf blademaster (Elf)
  2 death cobs
  An acid blob (Slime:4)
  2 Executioners
  Frances (D:13)
  A sphinx (Depths:3)
  A tentacled starspawn (Abyss:3)
  2 thorn hunters (Swamp:2)
  A shadow dragon (Zot:5)
  A tengu reaver (Vaults:3)
  An azure jelly (Slime:3)
  4 fire giants
  A daeva (Pan)
  A frost giant (Vaults:3)
  A ghost moth (Zot:2)
  An iron dragon (Zot:3)
  2 deep elf sorcerers
  Louise (Swamp:3)
  2 cacodemons (Pan)
  2 reapers
  3 very ugly things
  2 war gargoyles (Vaults:3)
  A revenant (Depths:1)
  2 spriggan defenders
  2 ironheart preservers
  3 stone giants
  2 deep elf demonologists (Elf)
  A lorocyproca (Pan)
  A spark wasp (Depths:2)
  A deep elf annihilator (Elf)
  2 blizzard demons
  A death ooze (Slime:4)
  A green death (Swamp:3)
  2 yaktaur captains
  An ettin (Depths:3)
  2 rakshasas (Vaults:2)
  4 great orbs of eyes
  2 hydras
  An ice dragon (Vaults:1)
  6 vault guards
  2 centaur warriors
  An alligator (Swamp:2)
  An ogre mage (D:15)
  A two-headed ogre (D:15)
  A vampire mage (Depths:2)
  2 orc high priests (Orc:2)
  A shock serpent (Pan)
  Sonja (D:13)
  A soul eater (Coc:7)
  2 shadow wraiths (Pan)
  2 skeletal warriors
  An unseen horror (D:15)
  5 deep trolls
  A phantasmal warrior (Vaults:3)
  3 orc knights
  Pikel (D:9)
  A deep elf mage (Vaults:2)
  An anaconda skeleton (Coc:7)
  A wolf spider zombie (Coc:7)
  A manticore (D:14)
  An orc sorcerer (Orc:2)
  A necromancer (D:15)
  2 cyclopes
  6 ugly things
  A stone giant skeleton (Coc:1)
  A centaur zombie (D:13)
  An orange demon (Coc:6)
  A storm dragon simulacrum (Coc:7)
  A yaktaur (Vaults:1)
  A hellion (Hell)
  2 ice devils
  2 hellwings
  2 freezing wraiths
  A demonic crawler (Pan)
  2 hydra zombies (Coc:6)
  7 slime creatures
  2 bog bodies (Swamp:3)
  3 trolls
  2 blink frogs
  2 small abominations
  A fire dragon skeleton (Coc:7)
  A large abomination (Coc:6)
  2 shadows (Swamp:3)
  4 humans (D:15)
  3 spriggans
  3 yaks (D:10)
  An angry ghost (D:11)
  2 golden eyes (Abyss:3)
  2 acid dragons
  A swamp worm (Swamp:2)
  A spiny frog zombie (Hell)
  2 slaves (D:9)
  2 eyes of draining (Slime:3)
  A black bear (shapeshifter) (Vaults:2)
  5 orc warriors
  2 wasps
  5 ogres
  4 centaurs (D:13)
  A crocodile (Orc:2)
  A wyvern zombie (D:5)
  A crimson imp (D:5)
  A howler monkey (D:6)
  A bullfrog zombie (D:5)
  A jelly (D:9)
  An orc priest (D:10)
  An orc wizard (D:4)
  3 orcs
  A fungus (D:14)
  A starspawn tentacle (Abyss:3)
214 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (others)
  Cerebov (Pan)
  An Orb Guardian (Coc:7)
  2 liches (Coc:7)
  2 eldritch tentacles
  A tengu reaver (Depths:3)
  A fire giant (Vaults:3)
  A lorocyproca (Pan)
  2 blizzard demons (Pan)
  A deep elf knight (Vaults:3)
  A skeletal warrior (Coc:7)
  A shadow wraith (Vaults:1)
  An ironbrand convoker (Vaults:1)
  3 cyclopes
  A centaur skeleton (D:13)
  A storm dragon simulacrum (Coc:7)
  An anaconda simulacrum (Coc:7)
  An ice devil (Coc:7)
  A tyrant leech (Swamp:2)
  2 water elementals
  A golden eye (Coc:7)
  A hydra simulacrum (Coc:7)
  An orc warrior (Orc:2)
  A slave (D:9)
  A wasp (Swamp:2)
  An iron imp (Hell)
  A white imp (Hell)
  An ufetubus (Coc:7)
  7 ball lightnings (Pan)
  A block of ice (Pan)
  A fire vortex (Pan)
  A fungus (Orc:2)
  137 spectral weapons
  10 starspawn tentacles
190 creatures vanquished.

Grand Total: 2588 creatures vanquished

Notes
Turn   | Place    | Note
-------+----------+-------------------------------------------
     0 | D:1      | kroki the Demonspawn Skald began the quest for the Orb.
     0 | D:1      | Reached XP level 1. HP: 16/16 MP: 3/3
    19 | D:1      | Reached skill level 1 in Armour
    60 | D:1      | Reached skill level 1 in Dodging
   243 | D:1      | Reached skill level 2 in Polearms
   243 | D:1      | Gained mutation: A weak demonic guardian rushes to your aid. [demonic ancestry]
   243 | D:1      | Reached XP level 2. HP: 22/22 MP: 2/4
   804 | D:1      | Gained mutation: Your magical and physical power is slightly enhanced at high health. [demonic ancestry]
   804 | D:1      | Reached XP level 3. HP: 27/27 MP: 3/5
   936 | D:1      | Reached skill level 3 in Charms
  1313 | D:1      | Learned a level 2 spell: Song of Slaying
  1665 | D:2      | Noticed Samantha
  1686 | D:2      | Killed Samantha
  1686 | D:2      | Gained mutation: You regenerate a little health from kills. [demonic ancestry]
  1686 | D:2      | Reached XP level 4. HP: 23/34 MP: 0/4
  1940 | D:2      | Found a sacrificial altar of Ru.
  2324 | D:2      | Found a faded altar of an unknown god.
  2446 | D:2      | Found a burning altar of Makhleb.
  2638 | D:2      | Learned a level 3 spell: Regeneration
  2743 | D:3      | Found a glowing golden altar of the Shining One.
  2796 | D:3      | Found a stormy altar of Qazlal.
  2803 | D:3      | Reached skill level 3 in Polearms
  2849 | D:3      | Gained mutation: You are partially covered in slimy green scales. (AC +2) [demonic ancestry]
  2849 | D:3      | Reached XP level 5. HP: 39/39 MP: 2/5
  3079 | D:3      | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha.
  3595 | D:3      | Became a worshipper of Qazlal Stormbringer
  3637 | D:4      | Noticed an ogre
  3646 | D:4      | Killed an ogre
  3646 | D:4      | Reached skill level 4 in Polearms
  3949 | D:4      | Gained mutation: You regenerate health from kills. [demonic ancestry]
  3949 | D:4      | Reached XP level 6. HP: 46/46 MP: 2/6
  4002 | D:4      | Found a white marble altar of Elyvilon.
  4144 | D:4      | Reached skill level 5 in Polearms
  4415 | D:4      | Noticed a moth of wrath
  4429 | D:4      | Found a bloodstained altar of Trog.
  4736 | D:5      | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
  4789 | D:5      | Noticed a hand axe
  4790 | D:5      | Found a hide-covered altar of Uskayaw.
  4792 | D:5      | Noticed a hand axe
  4809 | D:5      | Reached skill level 6 in Polearms
  4818 | D:5      | Reached * piety under Qazlal
  4839 | D:5      | Found a radiant altar of Vehumet.
  4851 | D:5      | Reached XP level 7. HP: 29/51 MP: 0/7
  5205 | D:5      | Reached skill level 7 in Polearms
  5310 | D:5      | Reached ** piety under Qazlal
  5358 | D:5      | Reached skill level 1 in Invocations
  5360 | D:5      | Reached skill level 2 in Dodging


had a really strong ds here with both aug and powered by death. quaz is really nasty in the endgame, his abilities ravage everything on screen and piety is more or less refunded on disaster area. takes a while to get him off the ground though. i remember sitting on ** or *** till orc..

bel

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Post Saturday, 2nd December 2017, 12:56

Re: [proclick] new fork, hellcrawl

I second the point about Qazlal piety being rather slow to ramp up. Maybe worth looking at.

bel

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Post Saturday, 2nd December 2017, 13:12

Re: [proclick] new fork, hellcrawl

[This can be done in DCSS as well, but I thought I'll suggest it here first.]

Direct-damage spells usually have damage of the form: Xd(Y + power/Z). The way I see it, all direct damage spells should be some kind of distribution (binomial or normal or whatever you feel is appropriate) with these parameters:

[*] Dependence on power and, for the current power:
[*] Minimum damage
[*] Maximum damage
[*] Some measure of concentration around the mean.

It might be a good idea to make all damage spells follow this scheme, and show this data in the "I" or "M" screen instead of showing the spell-power, which is often meaningless. It can perhaps also be shown on the x-v screen for monsters. Hellcrawl has already gone in the direction of showing more numbers, so might as well make them more meaningful.

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VeryAngryFelid

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Joined: Friday, 25th November 2011, 07:36

Post Tuesday, 5th December 2017, 23:46

Re: [proclick] new fork, hellcrawl

Some thoughts on transmutations/charms being permanent, with example character:

  Code:
 Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 5.2-23-gb6b9dbba86 (webtiles) character file.

tasonir the Martial Artist (OpEE)                  Turns: 10958, Time: 00:53:38

Health: 87/105     AC: 31 (39%)Str: 29  XL:     13   Next: 12%
Magic:  13/13      EV: 24    Int: 33    God:    Cheibriados [5*[136]]
Gold:   865        SH:  0    Dex: 30    Spells: 6/27 levels left

rFire    + . .     SeeInvis .     - Unarmed
rCold    . . .     Faith    .   (no shield)
rNeg     + + .     Spirit   .   (helmet restricted)
rPois    ∞         Reflect  .   (no amulet)
rElec    +                      l - +3 ring of protection
rCorr    +                      n - +5 ring of dexterity
MR       +....                  x - ring of resist corrosion
Stlth    ++++++....             z - ring of Incredulity {rF+ MR+ Str+2}
Regen    0.8/turn               A - ring of Mysticism {rElec rN+ Str+7}
MPRegen  0.2/turn               B - +3 ring of evasion
                                (no ring)
                                (no ring)

@: statue-form, regenerating, very slow
A: almost no armour, stealthy swim, amphibious, 8 rings, constrict 8, camouflage
a: End Regeneration, End Transformation, Bend Time, Temporal Distortion, Slouch,
Step From Time, Renounce Religion


You are on level 13 of the Dungeon.
You worship Cheibriados.
Cheibriados is extremely pleased with you.
You are not hungry.

You are a stone statue.

You have visited 1 branch of the dungeon, and seen 13 of its levels.
You have also visited: Sewer.

You have collected 1153 gold pieces.
You have spent 288 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Hand Weapons
 t - a +0 dagger of venom
Missiles
 a - 170 poisoned darts
 b - 1410 stones
 c - 101 javelins (quivered)
 d - 1253 arrows
 e - 347 bolts
 f - 166 tomahawks
 u - 71 silver javelins
 I - 21 curare darts
Magical Staves
 D - an uncursed staff of wizardry
 H - an uncursed staff of earth
Jewellery
 l - a +3 ring of protection (left tentacle)
 n - a +5 ring of dexterity (right tentacle)
 p - an uncursed amulet of guardian spirit
 x - a ring of resist corrosion (on tentacle)
 z - the ring of Incredulity (on tentacle) {rF+ MR+ Str+2}
   (You acquired it on level 6 of the Dungeon)   
   
   [ring of protection from magic]
   
   It affects your strength (+2).
   It protects you from fire.
   It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments.
 A - the ring of Mysticism (on tentacle) {rElec rN+ Str+7}
   (You acquired it on level 6 of the Dungeon)   
   
   [ring of positive energy]
   
   It affects your strength (+7).
   It insulates you from electricity.
   It protects you from negative energy.
 B - a +3 ring of evasion (on tentacle)
 K - an uncursed ring of poison resistance
Wands
 w - a wand of paralysis (15)
 E - a wand of enslavement (4)
 F - a wand of polymorph (6)
 N - a wand of acid (5)
Scrolls
 g - 3 scrolls of amnesia
 i - 3 scrolls of enchant armour
 m - 4 scrolls of blinking
 o - 3 scrolls of fear
 r - 11 scrolls of teleportation
 y - 2 scrolls of enchant weapon
 C - 3 scrolls of magic mapping
 G - a scroll of silence
 L - a scroll of fog
 M - a scroll of brand weapon
Potions
 h - 4 potions of heal wounds
 j - 2 potions of cancellation
 k - 2 potions of flight
 q - 6 potions of curing
 s - 3 potions of mutation
 v - a potion of resistance
 J - 4 potions of magic


   Skills:
 + Level 4.9 Fighting
 + Level 8.2 Dodging
 - Level 2.6 Stealth
 + Level 11.1 Unarmed Combat
 - Level 7.6 Spellcasting
 - Level 2.4 Translocations
 - Level 7.4 Transmutations
 - Level 10.2 Earth Magic
 - Level 7.6 Invocations


You have 6 spell levels left.
You know the following spells:

 Your Spells              Type           Power        Failure   Level  Hunger
a - Force Lance           Tloc/Erth      53 (100)     1%          3    N/A
b - Sandblast             Erth           50 (50)      1%          1    N/A
c - Lee's Rapid Deconstr  Erth           69 (200)     1%          5    N/A
d - Statue Form           Tmut/Erth      63 (150)     14%         6    N/A
e - Regeneration          Chrm/Necr      12 (200)     11%         3    N/A
f - Vampiric Draining     Necr           12 (200)     11%         3    N/A



First the big picture: perm transmutations/charms are wonderful and totally awesome. Thank you. That said - I wonder if some minor tweaks to the numbers might improve specific spells.

The general case: with statue form at 14% and red miscast, I feel like I'm moderately cheating the system by being able to have statue form permanently when I would be going through red miscasts in the normal game. Actually I'd be swapping in that staff of wizardry, but you know, if I was actually casting statue form over and over I'd eventually have a chance to malmutate myself here. I am paying 8 mana to keep it up instead of just 6, but I wonder if maybe the reserved MP formula could be a bit more harsh - I feel like I'd want my character to be paying 10-12 mana at this point to emphasize that I'm getting away with skipping red miscast chance. If hellcrawl doesn't mind being a bit more forgiving than mainline crawl, I'm okay with that as a player, it just didn't match my expectations.

Specific feedback about regeneration: Low level charms are a bit of an interesting case - since regeneration is only level 3, any decently high level spellcaster who has around level 10-15 spellcasting and decent int (20-25) can probably cast it for 3 reserved mana with 0 charms/necromancy. It's essentially a free spell, only limited by finding the book, and that you are no longer in the early game. My above character has it at 11% fail (reserves 3 mana) with only 7.6 spellcasting, 33 int, and no charms or necromancy. I noticed hellcrawl compensates for this by making it only .6hp/turn, roughtly half of main crawl's regeneration. But I wonder if it'd be better to solve the "free buff" by giving it the haste treatment: Keep it as strong as it was (1hp/turn) but make it considerably higher level. Like haste is now level 9, make regeneration a level 6 spell, but put it back to 1hp/turn. It isn't free, but now if you do have charms/necromancy, you can turn on pretty powerful healing.

TL;DR: I would have expected the reserved mana formula to be a bit harsher, but it's okay if you stick with the current one too. For regeneration specifically consider making it like haste: stronger effect, much higher spell level.
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Post Wednesday, 6th December 2017, 00:45

Re: [proclick] new fork, hellcrawl

A lot of the perm spells are definitely too good for their level, but it should be a minor numbers issue for most of them. Song of slaying is a notable exception where it seems to not make any noise, and that's definitely too strong for being level 2 *and* permanent which is already a big buff to the spell since it was designed so that the slaying bonus resets at some point no matter what. I'd make it so song of slaying makes noise constantly but not as much as DCSS.

That said, a lot of these perm spells being as strong as they are is quite welcome since it counteracts some of the nasty difficulty spikes present in hellcrawl, some just need to be less of a instant win. For example: Book of Unlife gives death channel and cigotuvi's which combined turn you into a nearly unkillable o-tabbing machine and they don't need much investment, making the rest of the game pretty underwhelming (though Zot and berserked GIAGGOSTUONOs or enough hellfire+torment can still catch you sleeping).

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Post Wednesday, 6th December 2017, 03:40

Re: [proclick] new fork, hellcrawl

As a followup to the whole branch order thing, once you have the orb, you have to go through hell with it? Is hell mandatory? It seems very long - I'm in Gehenna now and it's still 7 floors? Do I really need to wander through 28 floors (4 hell branches) for a full victory, or is is shorter than that?

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Post Wednesday, 6th December 2017, 04:15

Re: [proclick] new fork, hellcrawl

There's only one hell in each game. The exit is on the seventh floor next to the rune.

EDIT: I do think hell is too long. The orb run is a real slog.

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Post Wednesday, 6th December 2017, 05:45

Re: [proclick] new fork, hellcrawl

Keep in mind that the casting say, blade hands, with a staff of wiz wielded no longer works too well. Because your wiz staff is immediately melded (or you need to unwield it), and the cost of the form is recalculated each step, you'll end up spending a higher MP cost. Also, keep in mind that the MP reservation for buff/forms hits some characters harder than others. Transmuters can basically ignore it, while caster types have a bit more problems.

I don't know if the red miscast matters or not. Statue form lasts a long time anyway in normal DCSS, and you can cast it well in advance of a fight.

As for the orb run, I don't find it a slog. Most of the time is spent on the last floor anyway, and the other floors are either very short or not easy (maybe because you get swarmed by a pan lord or two). The latter case can introduce tricky and interesting situations. It is true that 7 is an arbitrary number of floors, but so is any other number.
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Post Wednesday, 6th December 2017, 05:57

Re: [proclick] new fork, hellcrawl

Btw, anyone who doubts that no food and permacharms are good ideas and make a HUGE difference to quality of life, should try Hellcrawl for just these features.

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Post Wednesday, 6th December 2017, 06:18

Re: [proclick] new fork, hellcrawl

About regeneration: the spell itself is badly designed. Either it is a free spell (except for the opportunity cost), or it permanently deducts 3 MP -- which just means that you want to turn the spell off when you reach full HP, which just moves the tedium from the start to the end (there is indeed some reduction in tedium due to not recasting the spell again and again, I'm not denying that).

I suggested a possible fix here. Essentially, you tap your MP to replenish HP. This solution has the disadvantage of removing or reducing the synergy with sublimation of blood, which I use often.

Or you could just get rid of it, I suppose. This is probably not a good idea.

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Post Wednesday, 6th December 2017, 19:54

Re: [proclick] new fork, hellcrawl

chequers wrote:There's only one hell in each game. The exit is on the seventh floor next to the rune.

EDIT: I do think hell is too long. The orb run is a real slog.

That seems much more fair. That said, if lair sub-branches are 3 floors, vaults is 3 floors, and lair got completely removed...I'm surprised hell is still 7 floors. Make it 3 or 5? Some of the floors have been quite a grind - a combination of hell effects, orb spawns, and taking the longest possible route around. The floor had a vault with all the stairs in one place and I made a slow circle around it until I found the entrance, basically fully exploring the entire level by the time I was done. This isn't everyone's experience but man did it feel long.

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Post Thursday, 7th December 2017, 06:20

Re: [proclick] new fork, hellcrawl

That's why you save a couple of magic mapping scrolls for the orb run. You should ideally have lots of consumables for the orb run. Anyway, the situation which you describe can almost as easily happen if Hell is 5 floors long.

The justification for cutting Lair and other floors is to reduce the XP in the game to make the difficulty curve tighter. By the time of the orb run, XP does not matter: you are trying to get out ASAP.

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Post Thursday, 7th December 2017, 15:04

Re: [proclick] new fork, hellcrawl

Like bel said, you wanna save on magic mapping. Heck, it should specifically be labeled as a yellow/high value scroll.

The difficulty on the last hell floor varies a lot though and could be adjusted; Cocytus can easily be a dead end since large gaps of deep water is a recurring theme, and without enough teleport scrolls or flight you're stuck swimming on deep water which is basically suicide.

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Post Thursday, 7th December 2017, 22:29

Re: [proclick] new fork, hellcrawl

I didn't have 7 scrolls to map each floor - I hadn't really used many of them before hell but I'd say I probably only generated around 5-8 scrolls all game long? Not sure. I did map two Gehenna floors, including the last one. The escape stairs were not near the rune though - after picking up the rune I had to go back across the floor to leave. I don't think they were there at first - is the hell boss now mandatory? Or at least ninja'ing the rune, that is.

Anyways I put a YAVP here, so I'll just link rather than repeat it (It's probably all fairly common feedback at this point): viewtopic.php?f=12&t=24617

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Post Friday, 8th December 2017, 10:01

Re: [proclick] new fork, hellcrawl

You don't have to map each floor. And you don't have to pick up the rune. Runes are just for scoring: you can win with zero runes if you want.
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