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Rename Damnation to Brimstone
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dynast wrote:You misspelled earth.
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Hellmonk wrote:If only there was a way to view what an enemy's spell did while in the game, perhaps as an extension of using x->v to examine a monster. This hypothetical screen could tell you important information about the spell, such as that hellfire damage isn't affected by fire resistance or AC.
Arrhythmia wrote:so you think that a good player would look at every single spell that could possibly be affiliated with an element on the off chance that one of them doesn't actually respect the resistance that it has in its name?
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Hellmonk wrote:Yeah, I think a good player should check spell descriptions and that ingame spell descriptions should give useful information about the resistances they check (especially for the ones that check AC differently, because that's really spoilery).
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Arrhythmia wrote:Hellmonk wrote:Yeah, I think a good player should check spell descriptions and that ingame spell descriptions should give useful information about the resistances they check (especially for the ones that check AC differently, because that's really spoilery).
you don't think that naming a spell "____ fire" and then having nothing to do with fire is really bad UI?
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Dracunos wrote:Oh wait.. but then that would mean only one spell of a damage type is irresistible and nothing else is like that! Inconsistency! :O Literally unplayable!
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Dracunos wrote:Arrhythmia wrote:Hellmonk wrote:Yeah, I think a good player should check spell descriptions and that ingame spell descriptions should give useful information about the resistances they check (especially for the ones that check AC differently, because that's really spoilery).
you don't think that naming a spell "____ fire" and then having nothing to do with fire is really bad UI?
Why the hell does it even matter if it is fire or not?
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HardboiledGargoyle wrote:it's not like people are throwing out suggestions like "assblast" and "hellfart"
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dynast wrote:I dont give a flying fuck to what the player might think about the attack's element or holiness, he will do that regardless of its name, thats what players are supposed to do in games like this. You can go back to calling it hellfire and make fire resistance decrease its damage for a maximum of 5% and pretend its like torment.
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creating beautiful prose in the game's messages?
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dynast wrote:Its not on the op but on my third post, damnation text is so awful to read and should be replaced with something else, if thats not a good excuse then i got nothing and you can lock the thread.
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archaeo wrote:dynast, you sort of forgot to tell us in your OP why "damnation" ought to change.
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Sar wrote:also why wouldn't meteors be resisted by AC
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HardboiledGargoyle wrote:because "damnation" sounds nothing like the thing it's describing. It stretches credibility that such an effect would continue to be called "damnation" even if its inventor insisted upon it. It would just be changed in some way, perhaps through jargon, like "Hellblast", that eventually becomes its de-facto name. Especially since it's common wherever it can occur, requires immediate attention, and "damnation" doesn't exactly roll off the tongue. "Burst" was also a bad name, I still can't remember whether it means smite-targeted or thrown.archaeo wrote:dynast, you sort of forgot to tell us in your OP why "damnation" ought to change.
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dowan wrote:HardboiledGargoyle wrote:because "damnation" sounds nothing like the thing it's describing. It stretches credibility that such an effect would continue to be called "damnation" even if its inventor insisted upon it. It would just be changed in some way, perhaps through jargon, like "Hellblast", that eventually becomes its de-facto name. Especially since it's common wherever it can occur, requires immediate attention, and "damnation" doesn't exactly roll off the tongue. "Burst" was also a bad name, I still can't remember whether it means smite-targeted or thrown.archaeo wrote:dynast, you sort of forgot to tell us in your OP why "damnation" ought to change.
Yeah, I agree with this, damnation should be looked at as a placeholder. Hurling damnation sounds like what imps do while they insult you, or what a mummy does when they curse you.
I still think Destruction, or Pure Destruction works pretty well. I don't think you'll ever find a name that conveys that it bypasses AC, especially given that many (most?) players don't even realize AC reduces damage from non-physical attacks in the first place.
The brimstone fiend hurls a blast of Pure Destruction at you! You are engulfed in Destruction!
It's still a little awkward, but better than damnation I think...
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