CIP HOGl -- YA what do I train question


Yet Another Stupid Death - Find a particularly innovative way to get killed? Share your pain!
Yet Another Victory Post - Brag about your bad-ass character and all your runes and whatnot.
Characters in Progress - share promising or interesting characters that are not dead yet.

Snake Sneak

Posts: 124

Joined: Thursday, 22nd March 2012, 21:34

Post Saturday, 30th November 2013, 16:51

CIP HOGl -- YA what do I train question

My HOGl is up to speed with axes, fighting, and armour. I've cleared lair and orc.

Should I now train:

1) Dodging? My EV is only 6.

2) Evocations? I have a lightning rod.

3) Spell skills. I have all the spells a melee character could want.

Also, is my plate armour a keeper?

I - +9 plate armour of the Armoured One {+Fly Stlth++}

There was no ego plate in orc.

  Code:
 Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.13.1 (console) character file.

prospero the Severer (Hill Orc Gladiator)          Turns: 30329, Time: 02:22:04

HP 132/132 (134) AC 34     Str 21      XL: 15   Next: 15%
MP  26/26        EV  6     Int 13      God: Okawaru [****..]
Gold 1110        SH  0     Dex 16      Spells:  4 memorised,  7 levels left

Res.Fire  : . . .   See Invis. : .   K - +5,+2 battleaxe (freeze)
Res.Cold  : . . .   Warding    : .   I - +9 plate armour of the Armoured One {+Fly Stlth++}
Life Prot.: . . .   Conserve   : .   (no shield)
Res.Poison: .       Res.Corr.  : .   d - +1 wizard hat {MR+}
Res.Elec. : .       Clarity    : +   o - +0 cloak of Gallantry {Int+1 Dam+3}
Sust.Abil.: . .     Spirit.Shd : .   D - +0 pair of gauntlets
Res.Mut.  : .       Stasis     : .   p - +1 pair of boots
Res.Rott. : .       Flight     : .   W - amulet of clarity
Saprovore : + . .                    S - +2 ring of protection
                                     h - +5 ring of dexterity

@: quite resistant to hostile enchantments, extremely unstealthy
A: saprovore 1
a: Heroism, Renounce Religion, Evoke Flight


You are on level 4 of the Orcish Mines.
You worship Okawaru.
Okawaru is greatly pleased with you.
You are not hungry.

You have visited 4 branches of the dungeon, and seen 24 of its levels.

You have collected 2491 gold pieces.
You have spent 1401 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Hand weapons
 K - a +5,+2 battleaxe of freezing (weapon)
Missiles
 C - 3 poisoned javelins (quivered)
Armour
 d - a +1 wizard hat of magic resistance (worn)
 e - a +0 orcish helmet of intelligence
 o - the cursed +0 cloak of Gallantry (worn) {Int+1 Dam+3}
   (You bought it in a shop on level 4 of the Orcish Mines)   
   
   It affects your intelligence (+1).
   It affects your damage-dealing abilities (+3).
   It has a curse placed upon it.
 p - a +1 pair of boots (worn)
 q - a +1 cloak of preservation
 r - a +1 golden helmet of see invisible
 D - a +0 pair of gauntlets (worn)
 I - the +9 plate armour of the Armoured One (worn) {+Fly Stlth++}
   (Okawaru gifted it to you on level 8 of the Lair of Beasts)   
   
   It lets you fly.
   It makes you much more stealthy.
 R - a +0 orcish cloak of poison resistance
Magical devices
 b - a wand of cold {zapped: 1}
 c - an encrusted gold wand {zapped: 4} {tried}
 j - a wand of lightning {zapped: 1}
 x - a wand of fireball {zapped: 3}
 B - a wand of cold {zapped: 7}
 P - a wand of digging (8)
Comestibles
 f - 2 meat rations
 F - 3 strawberries
Scrolls
 a - a scroll of identify
 z - a scroll of fear
 H - 2 scrolls of fog
 N - 4 scrolls of teleportation
Jewellery
 h - a +5 ring of dexterity (left hand)
 i - an uncursed ring of ice
 S - a +2 ring of protection (right hand)
 U - an uncursed ring of sustenance
 W - an amulet of clarity (around neck)
Potions
 g - 2 potions of flight
 l - 3 potions of curing
 m - a potion of brilliance
 n - 2 potions of agility
 E - a potion of resistance
 T - a potion of berserk rage
 V - a potion of restore abilities
Books
 k - a book of Enchantments   
   
   Spells                             Type                      Level
   Cause Fear                         Hexes                        4
   Silence                            Hexes/Air                    5
   Tukima's Dance                     Hexes                        5
   Deflect Missiles                   Charms/Air                   6
   Haste                              Charms                       6
   Discord                            Hexes                        8
Rods
 w - a +0 lightning rod (14/14)
   (You found it on level 4 of the Dungeon)


   Skills:
 - Level 15.0 Fighting
 - Level 20.0 Axes
 - Level 2.0 Throwing
 - Level 15.0 Armour
 + Level 4.2 Dodging
 - Level 8.0 Invocations


You have 7 spell levels left.
You know the following spells:

 Your Spells              Type           Power        Failure   Level  Hunger
a - Apportation           Tloc           #.........   100%        1    ##.....
b - Swiftness             Chrm/Air       #.........   100%        2    ###....
c - Repel Missiles        Chrm/Air       #.........   100%        2    ###....
d - Blink                 Tloc           N/A          100%        2    ###....


Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (11/27)            Temple (1/1) D:5             Orc (4/4) D:11
    Elf (0/3) Orc:3          Lair (8/8) D:10          Swamp (0/5) Lair:3
  Snake (0/5) Lair:4        Slime (0/6) Lair:7     

Altars:
Ashenzari
Cheibriados
Elyvilon
Fedhas
Kikubaaqudgha
Makhleb
Nemelex Xobeh
Okawaru
Sif Muna
Trog
Vehumet
Xom
Yredelemnul
Zin
the Shining One
Beogh
Jiyva

Shops:
D:7 !   D:9 ?   Orc:4 ([=*

Annotations:
D:1 frog
D:6 bmadams2's ghost, experienced MiFi
D:8 2 exclusions
Lair:2 exclusions: electric eel and 2 more exclusions
Lair:4 exclusion: oklob plant


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You can tolerate rotten meat.


Message History

Oops, that feels deathly cold.
There is an entrance to Plak's Antique Armour Boutique here.
You see here a giant club.
You are feeling hungry.
Eat which item? (? for menu, Esc to quit)
You continue eating.
You finish eating. That strawberry was delicious!
There is an entrance to Nyennyi's Jewellery Shoppe here.
There is an entrance to Erim's Antique Weapon Shop here.
Char dumped successfully.
Search for what [Enter for "remove curse", or ? for help]? might
Search for what [Enter for "might", or ? for help]? speed
Search for what [Enter for "speed", or ? for help]? yellow
Can't find anything matching that.
Search for what [Enter for "yellow", or ? for help]? poiton
Can't find anything matching that.
Search for what [Enter for "poiton", or ? for help]? potion
Use which ability? (? or * to list)
Okay, then.
Save game and exit?

 ##.........#### ##..............
 ##........#.#.## #..............
 #....#.........# ###...........#
 ##....#...#.#..##########....##.
 ##.#...#...#.......####.##...#..
 #...#.#.............#....##.###.
 ##.##..#..................####..
 ##.#.........ff.......#....###..
 #.......[...................#...
 ##......[#.f...............##...
##..............@............#...
#..............................f.
##..##........8.[...f........f...
#...#.###.#.f....)............[f8
##.#..........ff[................
 ####)...........................
   ##...##...............[..[.)..
  ##.#.#.........#....[...[#...f.
  #..............##..............
 ##.....[.......#...[..........##
 #..........)..#................#


There are no monsters in sight!

Vanquished Creatures
  2 orc warlords (Orc:4)
  Nessos (D:11)
  4 hydras
  A deep troll shaman (Lair:8)
  5 orc high priests (Orc:4)
  4 death yaks (Lair:8)
  A catoblepas (Lair:8)
  An iron troll (Orc:4)
  An unseen horror (D:11)
  2 ice devils (Orc:4)
  A hill giant (D:11)
  4 orc knights
  A necromancer (Lair:2)
  4 orc sorcerers
  An oklob plant (Lair:8)
  4 black mambas
  25 elephants
  A queen ant (Lair:8)
  Psyche (Orc:2)
  An item mimic (Lair:4)
  14 spiny frogs
  6 komodo dragons
  A blue devil (Orc:4)
  A red devil (Orc:4)
  2 iron devils (Orc:4)
  A spriggan (D:7)
  2 two-headed ogres
  A polar bear (Lair:6)
  5 trolls
  A baby alligator (Lair:3)
  14 blink frogs
  A boulder beetle (Lair:8)
  2 basilisks
  2 deep elf magi (Orc:1)
  A chaos spawn (Orc:4)
  An elephant slug (Lair:8)
  A wyvern (D:10)
  A hill giant skeleton (D:11)
  6 hippogriffs
  2 hungry ghosts
  38 yaks
  2 manticores
  Menkaure (D:5)
  2 necrophages (D:11)
  2 swamp drakes
  3 ice beasts
  6 soldier ants (Lair:8)
  26 orc warriors
  8 porcupines
  12 wolves
  2 sky beasts
  2 black bears
  11 ogres
  A phantom (D:8)
  3 centaurs
  A rotting devil (Orc:4)
  2 boring beetles
  5 wargs
  23 giant frogs
  16 crocodiles
  7 giant slugs
  A gnoll sergeant (D:9)
  Blork the orc (Orc:1)
  11 water moccasins
  4 agate snails
  A cyclops skeleton (D:11)
  An eye of draining (D:10)
  A troll zombie (Orc:4)
  9 killer bees (D:10)
  8 wights
  13 crimson imps
  A goliath beetle (D:9)
  4 jellies
  4 quasits
  A giant frog zombie (D:6)
  4 scorpions
  5 hounds
  Crazy Yiuf (D:3)
  20 orc priests
  A gnoll shaman (D:8)
  A water moccasin skeleton (D:6)
  A centaur skeleton (D:7)
  An iron imp (Orc:1)
  27 worker ants
  11 iguanas
  24 orc wizards
  26 sheep
  A sky beast zombie (D:7)
  Ijyb (D:5)
  A hound skeleton (D:5)
  A hound zombie (D:6)
  The ghost of Stumblebum the Firebug, a weakling DEFE (D:4)
  24 adders
  60 green rats
  12 gnolls
  4 giant centipedes
  A shadow imp (Orc:1)
  2 giant mites (Lair:3)
  A hound simulacrum (Lair:2)
  A white imp (Orc:1)
  5 worms
  2 adder skeletons
  2 giant eyeballs
  8 giant geckos
  3 oozes
  148 orcs
  A sheep simulacrum (Lair:2)
  A ball python (D:2)
  5 giant cockroaches
  24 goblins
  20 hobgoblins
  25 jackals
  10 kobolds
  10 quokkas
  A ball python skeleton (D:4)
  21 bats
  A giant gecko zombie (D:6)
  3 giant newts
  A giant spore (D:4)
  A gnoll zombie (D:8)
  A jackal skeleton (D:8)
  A kobold zombie (D:6)
  5 orc skeletons (Orc:4)
  A quokka zombie (D:6)
  20 rats
  A rat skeleton (D:6)
  A rat zombie (D:6)
  3 ballistomycetes (D:4)
  A bush (D:11)
  11 fungi
  11 plants
943 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (others)
  An orc wizard (D:3)
  2 orcs
  A giant newt (Lair:3)
  36 fungi
  3 plants (Lair:8)
43 creatures vanquished.

Grand Total: 986 creatures vanquished

Notes
Turn   | Place    | Note
--------------------------------------------------------------
     0 | D:1      | prospero, the Hill Orc Gladiator, began the quest for the Orb.
     0 | D:1      | Reached XP level 1. HP: 18/18 MP: 0/0
   163 | D:1      | Reached XP level 2. HP: 12/25 MP: 1/1
   464 | D:1      | Reached skill level 5 in Axes
   820 | D:1      | Reached XP level 3. HP: 26/30 MP: 2/2
   919 | D:1      | Noticed a giant frog
   963 | D:2      | Reached skill level 6 in Axes
  1162 | D:2      | Reached XP level 4. HP: 38/38 MP: 3/3
  1744 | D:3      | Reached skill level 7 in Axes
  1744 | D:3      | Reached XP level 5. HP: 15/44 MP: 4/4
  2194 | D:3      | Found a shimmering altar of Xom.
  2390 | D:3      | Noticed Crazy Yiuf
  2400 | D:3      | Killed Crazy Yiuf
  2400 | D:3      | Reached skill level 8 in Axes
  2711 | D:4      | Noticed an ice beast
  2716 | D:4      | Noticed Stumblebum's ghost (weakling DEFE)
  2725 | D:4      | Killed an ice beast
  2725 | D:4      | Reached skill level 9 in Axes
  2725 | D:4      | Reached XP level 6. HP: 46/50 MP: 5/5
  2726 | D:4      | Killed Stumblebum's ghost
  2748 | D:4      | Reached skill level 10 in Axes
  2748 | D:4      | Reached XP level 7. HP: 28/57 MP: 6/6
  3280 | D:4      | Found a white marble altar of Elyvilon.
  3642 | D:5      | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
  3686 | D:5      | Noticed Ijyb
  3701 | D:5      | Killed Ijyb
  3701 | D:5      | Reached skill level 11 in Axes
  3945 | D:5      | Reached XP level 8. HP: 61/63 MP: 7/7
  3953 | D:5      | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple.
  4157 | D:5      | Reached skill level 12 in Axes
  4339 | D:5      | Noticed Menkaure
  4351 | D:5      | Killed Menkaure
  4717 | Temple   | Entered the Ecumenical Temple
  4952 | Temple   | Became a worshipper of Warmaster Okawaru
  5223 | D:6      | Reached skill level 13 in Axes
  5396 | D:6      | Noticed a troll
  5428 | D:6      | HP: 3/63 [troll (10)]
  5430 | D:6      | Killed a troll
  5452 | D:6      | Reached skill level 14 in Axes
  5470 | D:6      | Noticed bmadams2's ghost (experienced MiFi)
  5763 | D:6      | Reached XP level 9. HP: 67/69 MP: 8/8
  5815 | D:7      | Noticed a spriggan baker
  5834 | D:7      | Killed a spriggan baker
  5834 | D:7      | Acquired Okawaru's first power
  5851 | D:7      | Reached skill level 15 in Axes
  6056 | D:7      | Reached skill level 1 in Armour
  6308 | D:7      | Found Twic Shra's Distillery.
  6348 | D:7      | Bought a potion of berserk rage for 45 gold pieces
  6348 | D:7      | Bought a potion of poison for 15 gold pieces
  6348 | D:7      | Bought a potion of porridge for 15 gold pieces
  6349 | D:7      | Bought a potion of mutation for 45 gold pieces
  6576 | D:8      | Reached skill level 5 in Armour
  7257 | D:8      | Reached XP level 10. HP: 45/77 MP: 6/9
  7784 | D:9      | Found Suecuif's Magic Scroll Boutique.
  7792 | D:9      | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 2 turns
  7842 | D:9      | Bought a scroll of identify for 26 gold pieces
  7842 | D:9      | Bought a scroll of fog for 26 gold pieces
  8510 | D:10     | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon
  8540 | D:10     | Reached skill level 10 in Armour
  8886 | D:10     | Found a staircase to the Lair.
  8929 | D:10     | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting
 10075 | Lair:1   | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts
 10078 | Lair:1   | Reached XP level 11. HP: 84/91 MP: 10/10
 11238 | Lair:2   | Reached skill level 10 in Fighting
 11754 | Lair:2   | Noticed a necromancer
 11759 | Lair:2   | Killed a necromancer
 11759 | Lair:2   | Acquired Okawaru's second power
 12114 | Lair:2   | Reached skill level 16 in Axes
 12297 | Lair:2   | Reached skill level 1 in Invocations
 12800 | Lair:3   | Got a blackened dagger
 12972 | Lair:3   | Found a staircase to the Swamp.
 13212 | Lair:3   | Received a gift from Okawaru
 13227 | Lair:3   | Reached skill level 5 in Invocations
 13245 | Lair:3   | HP: 6/139 [elephant (13)]
 13252 | Lair:3   | HP: 1/139 [elephant (5)]
 14086 | Lair:4   | Reached XP level 12. HP: 100/102 MP: 7/23
 14106 | Lair:4   | Received a gift from Okawaru
 14799 | Lair:4   | Found a staircase to the Snake Pit.
 14867 | Lair:4   | Reached skill level 17 in Axes
 15749 | Lair:5   | Identified the +5,+7 dagger "Mnokkom" {elec, rF+ MR++} (You found it on level 3 of the Lair of Beasts)
 16290 | Lair:5   | Reached skill level 18 in Axes
 16310 | Lair:5   | Noticed a five-headed hydra
 16320 | Lair:5   | Killed a five-headed hydra
 17808 | Lair:6   | Reached skill level 19 in Axes
 18138 | Lair:6   | Reached XP level 13. HP: 97/108 MP: 8/24
 18484 | Lair:6   | Noticed a six-headed hydra
 18493 | Lair:6   | Killed a six-headed hydra
 18493 | Lair:6   | Reached skill level 20 in Axes
 18840 | Lair:6   | Noticed a five-headed hydra
 18849 | Lair:6   | Killed a five-headed hydra
 18849 | Lair:6   | Received a gift from Okawaru
 18850 | Lair:6   | Got a turquoise-encrusted leather armour {god gift}
 18871 | Lair:6   | Identified the +1 leather armour "Udylyn" {Int+4 Dam+4 Stlth+} (Okawaru gifted it to you on level 6 of the Lair of Beasts)
 20135 | Lair:7   | Learned a level 1 spell: Apportation
 20138 | Lair:7   | Learned a level 2 spell: Swiftness
 20746 | Lair:7   | Found a viscous altar of Jiyva.
 20750 | Lair:7   | Found a staircase to the Slime Pits.
 20946 | Lair:8   | Entered Level 8 of the Lair of Beasts
 22875 | Lair:8   | Received a gift from Okawaru
 23354 | Lair:8   | Reached skill level 15 in Fighting
 23354 | Lair:8   | Reached XP level 14. HP: 94/126 MP: 19/25
 23671 | Lair:8   | Got a slimy dire flail
 23673 | Lair:8   | Identified the dire flail of the Jester {holy, +Blink +Rage rPois Stlth+} (You found it on level 8 of the Lair of Beasts)
 23679 | Lair:8   | Identified a scroll of acquirement
 24643 | Lair:8   | Received a gift from Okawaru
 24674 | Lair:8   | Got a jasper-encrusted plate armour {god gift}
 24735 | Lair:8   | Identified the +9 plate armour of the Armoured One {+Fly Stlth++} (Okawaru gifted it to you on level 8 of the Lair of Beasts)
 25117 | D:11     | Noticed Nessos
 25124 | D:11     | Killed Nessos
 25985 | D:11     | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines.
 25996 | D:11     | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh.
 26398 | Orc:1    | Entered Level 1 of the Orcish Mines
 26808 | Orc:1    | Noticed Blork the orc
 26816 | Orc:1    | Killed Blork the orc
 27135 | Orc:1    | Learned a level 2 spell: Repel Missiles
 27138 | Orc:1    | Learned a level 2 spell: Blink
 27169 | Orc:2    | Noticed Psyche
 27180 | Orc:2    | Killed Psyche
 27703 | Orc:3    | Found a radiant altar of Vehumet.
 27938 | Orc:3    | Found a staircase to the Elven Halls.
 28477 | Orc:4    | Entered Level 4 of the Orcish Mines
 28566 | Orc:4    | Found Erim's Antique Weapon Shop.
 28733 | Orc:4    | Noticed an orc warlord
 28765 | Orc:4    | Killed an orc warlord
 28772 | Orc:4    | Found Nyennyi's Jewellery Shoppe.
 28877 | Orc:4    | Found Plak's Antique Armour Boutique.
 28918 | Orc:4    | Found Rofromy's General Store.
 28926 | Orc:4    | Reached XP level 15. HP: 99/131 MP: 24/26
 28942 | Orc:4    | Reached skill level 15 in Armour
 30181 | Orc:4    | Bought a scroll of remove curse for 42 gold pieces
 30212 | Orc:4    | Bought a scroll of enchant weapon III for 280 gold pieces
 30212 | Orc:4    | Bought a book of Enchantments for 700 gold pieces
 30274 | Orc:4    | Bought a runed orcish helmet for 46 gold pieces
 30274 | Orc:4    | Bought a slimy cloak for 138 gold pieces
 30274 | Orc:4    | Bought a runed cloak for 23 gold pieces
 30286 | Orc:4    | Identified a +1 cloak of preservation (You bought it in a shop on level 4 of the Orcish Mines)
 30289 | Orc:4    | Identified the cursed +0 cloak of Gallantry {Int+1 Dam+3} (You bought it in a shop on level 4 of the Orcish Mines)


Action                   |  1- 3 |  4- 6 |  7- 9 | 10-12 | 13-15 || total
-------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------++-------
Melee: Hand axe          |   122 |   101 |       |       |       ||   223
       War axe           |       |    47 |   387 |   660 |       ||  1094
       Rod               |       |       |    41 |    39 |    44 ||   124
       Battleaxe         |       |       |       |   442 |  1101 ||  1543
Throw: Stone             |       |     1 |     4 |     5 |     7 ||    17
       Throwing net      |       |     1 |       |       |       ||     1
Invok: Heroism           |       |       |     1 |    12 |    24 ||    37
       Finesse           |       |       |       |       |     3 ||     3
Evoke: Rod               |       |       |     7 |    20 |    23 ||    50
       Wand              |       |       |     2 |    10 |    11 ||    23
  Use: Scroll            |       |    10 |     9 |    12 |    15 ||    46
       Potion            |       |       |     5 |     1 |     5 ||    11
 Stab: Invisible         |       |       |     2 |       |       ||     2
       Confused          |       |       |       |     1 |     1 ||     2

Ziggurat Zagger

Posts: 11111

Joined: Friday, 8th February 2013, 12:00

Post Saturday, 30th November 2013, 16:58

Re: CIP HOGl -- YA what do I train question

I would train Charms for Haste, then Evocations for lighting rod, then Dodging.
Also I would wear cloak of preservation, +3 damage is not a big deal, losing all scrolls of teleportation is.

For this message the author Sandman25 has received thanks:
prospero14
User avatar

Vestibule Violator

Posts: 1509

Joined: Wednesday, 21st September 2011, 01:10

Location: St. John's, NL, Canada

Post Saturday, 30th November 2013, 17:27

Re: CIP HOGl -- YA what do I train question

I would get evocations before charms (also air to get rmsl and swiftness before haste). After RMsl/Swiftness you can reconsider if you want translocations, dodging, or haste.

And unless I knew for some reason I was going to be pummelled with elemental attacks and yet unable to drop items (Elf comes to mind) I'd stick with the slaying cloak over preservation. (I don't remember if the patch to make AC work a bit to prevent item destruction is in 0.13 or only trunk, but I'd probably use slaying even if it isn't in).

Go ahead and enchant that axe (to +5 or +6) if you have scrolls, too.

+9 plate is pretty good, especially when it isn't costing you scrolls - thus leaving options open for later if you find a CPA or good ego plate or want to make a dragon armour.
Won all race/bg, unwon (online): Nem* Hep Uka
Favourites: 15-rune Trog, OgNe/OgIE/OgSu (usually Ash), Ds, Ru, SpEn, Ce of Chei, Qaz

For this message the author rchandra has received thanks:
prospero14

Snake Sneak

Posts: 124

Joined: Thursday, 22nd March 2012, 21:34

Post Saturday, 30th November 2013, 17:52

Re: CIP HOGl -- YA what do I train question

I enchanted by battleaxe up to +6,+6 and Oka responded with these:

o - a +3,+0 executioner's axe of freezing
v - a +2 pair of orcish boots of running (worn)

Thanks, buddy!

Now, a +6 battleaxe does more damage than a +0 ex axe at axe skill 20, right?

But maybe now I should drop previously plans and train axes?
User avatar

Vestibule Violator

Posts: 1509

Joined: Wednesday, 21st September 2011, 01:10

Location: St. John's, NL, Canada

Post Saturday, 30th November 2013, 19:10

Re: CIP HOGl -- YA what do I train question

my instinct is no, your weapon is good enough and those last levels are quite expensive. You can use Heroism for all medium and tougher fights with it (and thus get 21-22 axes only), but that's annoying and you've even enchanted the battleaxe. I think you'll get more out of training the other skills first.
Won all race/bg, unwon (online): Nem* Hep Uka
Favourites: 15-rune Trog, OgNe/OgIE/OgSu (usually Ash), Ds, Ru, SpEn, Ce of Chei, Qaz

Ziggurat Zagger

Posts: 6454

Joined: Tuesday, 30th October 2012, 19:06

Post Saturday, 30th November 2013, 19:44

Re: CIP HOGl -- YA what do I train question

Note that if you trains Axes up to 21 (A modest increase from 20) you can use Heroism to get to min delay with the exec axe. Even at 25, the exec axe is better than the battleaxe. I'd keep both on hand and use the exec axe with heroism and the battleaxe without, and enchant the exec axe, eventually ditch the battleaxe when you get your axes skill up, but that's not an immediate priority, since you do have heroism to make up the difference.

You'll get more out of the other skills in the short term, just keep the exec axe around until you're ready to switch to it full time.
Spoiler: show
This high quality signature has been hidden for your protection. To unlock it's secret, send 3 easy payments of $9.99 to me, by way of your nearest theta band or ley line. Complete your transmission by midnight tonight for a special free gift!

Return to YASD! YAVP! and characters in progress too

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 10 guests

Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group.
Designed by ST Software for PTF.