CIP: HOFi of Beogh

[I want to believe]

Had a relatively easy time so far. I found some decent gear over the first few floors (+0, +1 flail, boots, etc.). I was finally going to try a hill orc WITHOUT Beogh as my god, but I almost got murdered by a group of orcs, so I had to join Beogh again. I need help deciding on buying a new mace. There is a +13, +9 mace of Variability for sale in the shop, and also a +6, +1 mace of draining. I have a 7.6 in maces & flails, and a 9.1 in shields. My current weapon is a +0, +2 orcish flail. What should I use? I've been training shields this whole time, but the mace of Variability seems really strong. Then again, I don't know how bad the random effects it gives could be.


Here's the morgue file.

  Code:

 Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.13.0 (tiles) character file.

Dron the Hoplite (Hill Orc Fighter)                 Turns: 8929, Time: 00:37:22

HP  83/83        AC 19     Str 23      XL: 10   Next: 26%
MP  13/13        EV  8     Int  8      God: Beogh [****..]
Gold 1807        SH 26     Dex 10      Spells:  0 memorised,  9 levels left

Res.Fire  : . . .   See Invis. : .   x - +0,+2 orc flail
Res.Cold  : . . .   Warding    : .   G - +0 orc plate armour
Life Prot.: . . .   Conserve   : .   c - +0 orc shield
Res.Poison: .       Res.Corr.  : .   o - +0 helmet
Res.Elec. : .       Clarity    : +   (no cloak)
Sust.Abil.: . .     Spirit.Shd : +   e - +0 pair of gauntlets
Res.Mut.  : .       Stasis     : .   h - +0 pair of boots
Res.Rott. : .       Flight     : .   q - amulet of guardian spirit
Saprovore : + . .                    v - +3 ring of evasion
                                     p - ring of sustenance

@: somewhat resistant to hostile enchantments, extremely unstealthy
A: clarity, saprovore 1
a: Smiting, Recall Orcish Followers, Renounce Religion


You are on level 8 of the Dungeon.
You worship Beogh.
Beogh is greatly pleased with you.
You are not hungry.

You have visited 2 branches of the dungeon, and seen 9 of its levels.
You have also visited: Bailey.

You have collected 1787 gold pieces.

Inventory:

Hand weapons
 x - a +0,+2 orcish flail (weapon)
Missiles
 s - 5 silver javelins (quivered)
Armour
 c - a +0 orcish shield (worn)
 e - a +0 pair of gauntlets (worn)
 h - a +0 pair of boots (worn)
 o - a +0 helmet (worn)
 G - a +0 orcish plate armour (worn)
Magical devices
 r - a jewelled lead wand {zapped: 2} {tried}
 z - a wand of lightning {empty}
 D - a wand of hasting {zapped: 1}
 E - a wand of cold {zapped: 10}
Comestibles
 d - 6 meat rations
 t - 2 bread rations
Scrolls
 a - a scroll of fog
 b - a scroll of amnesia
 g - 5 scrolls of fear
 l - 3 scrolls of remove curse
 m - a scroll of random uselessness
 C - a scroll labeled SMEEJA HEEJEQU
Jewellery
 p - a ring of sustenance (left hand)
 q - an amulet of guardian spirit (around neck)
 v - a +3 ring of evasion (right hand)
 y - an uncursed ring of teleportation
Potions
 f - 2 potions of heal wounds
 i - a smoky silvery potion
 k - a potion of brilliance
 n - 4 potions of curing
 A - a potion of agility
 B - a brown potion


   Skills:
 + Level 6.9 Fighting
 + Level 7.6 Maces & Flails
 + Level 7.5 Armour
 + Level 4.9 Dodging
 + Level 9.1 Shields
 + Level 2.9 Evocations


You have 9 spell levels left.
You don't know any spells.

Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (8/27)             Temple (1/1) D:6             Orc (0/4) D:6
  Lair: D:8-13     

Altars:
Ashenzari
Cheibriados
Elyvilon
Fedhas
Kikubaaqudgha
Makhleb
Nemelex Xobeh
Okawaru
Sif Muna
Trog
Vehumet
Xom
Yredelemnul
Zin
the Shining One

Shops:
D:8 (


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You can tolerate rotten meat.
You possess an exceptional clarity of mind.


Message History

The killer bee barely misses you.
Your orc wizard points at the killer bee and mumbles some strange words.
The magic dart hits the killer bee. You block the killer bee's attack.
Your orc warrior closely misses the killer bee.
Your orc wizard misses the killer bee.
You thump the killer bee!
You kill the killer bee!
Beogh accepts your kill.
Your orc warrior looks more experienced.
Things that are here:
a killer bee corpse
There is a stone staircase leading up here.
l - 3 scrolls of remove curse (gained 1)
Your orc wizard is no longer moving quickly.
Found Gounuo's Weapon Boutique.
You swap places.
You swap places.
Found 12 gold pieces.
A quokka comes into view.
There is an entrance to Gounuo's Weapon Boutique here.

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You can see a quokka, a friendly orc warrior, a friendly orc wizard and a
friendly orc.

Vanquished Creatures
  Pikel (D:8)
  Edmund (D:6)
  A sky beast (D:6)
  6 orc warriors
  A phantom (D:4)
  3 slaves (D:8)
  A centaur (D:7)
  Sigmund (D:5)
  4 giant frogs
  A hippogriff zombie (D:7)
  A troll zombie (D:8)
  5 killer bees (D:8)
  A yak skeleton (D:7)
  8 crimson imps
  2 giant frog zombies
  A jelly (D:6)
  A goliath beetle (D:6)
  4 hounds
  4 orc priests
  2 giant frog skeletons
  A scorpion (D:5)
  An iguana (D:6)
  7 orc wizards
  3 worker ants
  An ogre zombie (D:5)
  2 hound zombies
  A worker ant zombie (D:8)
  4 gnolls
  9 adders
  3 giant mites
  3 worms
  A giant eyeball (D:6)
  An iguana skeleton (D:5)
  A scorpion zombie (D:5)
  2 giant geckos
  3 oozes
  24 orcs
  A bat skeleton (D:4)
  4 giant cockroaches
  9 goblins
  9 hobgoblins
  7 jackals
  4 quokkas
  9 bats
  4 giant newts
  A goblin skeleton (D:4)
  20 kobolds
  A quokka skeleton (D:6)
  10 rats
  A ballistomycete (D:8)
  2 toadstools (D:1)
198 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (collateral kills)
  Psyche (D:8)
  Prince Ribbit (D:8)
  A hippogriff (D:8)
  A giant frog (D:8)
  A killer bee (D:8)
  An orc wizard (D:8)
  An orc priest (D:8)
  A scorpion (D:8)
  A mottled dragon zombie (D:8)
  2 adders (D:8)
  3 gnolls
  A worm (D:8)
  A giant eyeball (D:7)
  2 orcs
  A hobgoblin (D:7)
  A goblin (Bailey)
  3 kobolds (Bailey)
  A quokka skeleton (D:7)
24 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (others)
  An orc wizard (D:8)
  An orc warrior (Bailey)
  An orc priest (D:3)
  4 orcs
  A goblin (D:3)
  A giant spore (D:8)
  A kobold (D:3)
  2 toadstools (D:1)
12 creatures vanquished.

Grand Total: 234 creatures vanquished

Notes
Turn   | Place    | Note
--------------------------------------------------------------
     0 | D:1      | Dron, the Hill Orc Fighter, began the quest for the Orb.
     0 | D:1      | Reached XP level 1. HP: 19/19 MP: 0/0
   327 | D:1      | Reached XP level 2. HP: 26/26 MP: 1/1
   824 | D:2      | Reached XP level 3. HP: 33/33 MP: 2/2
  1099 | D:2      | Found a white marble altar of Elyvilon.
  1743 | D:3      | Reached skill level 4 in Armour
  1744 | D:3      | Became a worshipper of Beogh the Brigand
  1888 | D:3      | Reached skill level 1 in Dodging
  1897 | D:3      | Reached XP level 4. HP: 38/40 MP: 3/3
  2355 | D:3      | Paralysed by a potion of paralysis for 5 turns
  2437 | D:4      | Found a shattered altar of Ashenzari.
  2559 | D:4      | Reached XP level 5. HP: 17/46 MP: 4/4
  2805 | D:4      | Acquired Beogh's first power
  3122 | D:4      | Noticed a phantom
  3166 | D:4      | Killed a phantom
  3166 | D:4      | Reached XP level 6. HP: 38/53 MP: 5/5
  3259 | D:4      | Noticed a giant frog
  3266 | D:4      | Killed a giant frog
  3659 | D:5      | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
  3693 | D:5      | Reached skill level 5 in Shields
  3753 | D:5      | Noticed Sigmund
  3766 | D:5      | Killed Sigmund
  3766 | D:5      | Reached XP level 7. HP: 46/59 MP: 4/6
  4191 | D:5      | Reached skill level 5 in Armour
  4433 | D:5      | Gained mutation: You possess an exceptional clarity of mind. [potion of beneficial mutation]
  4668 | D:6      | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines.
  4684 | D:6      | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting
  4739 | D:6      | Acquired Beogh's second power
  4825 | D:6      | Reached skill level 5 in Maces & Flails
  4825 | D:6      | Reached skill level 6 in Shields
  4825 | D:6      | Reached XP level 8. HP: 58/68 MP: 7/7
  5388 | D:6      | Noticed Edmund
  5409 | D:6      | Killed Edmund
  5751 | D:6      | Reached skill level 7 in Shields
  5823 | D:6      | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple.
  5829 | Temple   | Entered the Ecumenical Temple
  6111 | D:7      | Reached XP level 9. HP: 63/74 MP: 5/8
  6117 | D:7      | Acquired Beogh's third power
  6218 | D:7      | Found a bloodstained altar of Trog.
  6465 | D:7      | Gained Hawl as an ally
  7018 | D:8      | Found a flagged portal.
  7071 | Bailey   | Entered a bailey
  7420 | Bailey   | Reached skill level 8 in Shields
  7420 | Bailey   | Reached skill level 1 in Evocations
  7924 | D:8      | Noticed Prince Ribbit
  7929 | D:8      | Killed Prince Ribbit
  8223 | D:8      | Noticed Psyche
  8228 | D:8      | Killed Psyche
  8281 | D:8      | Acquired Beogh's fourth power
  8293 | D:8      | Reached XP level 10. HP: 81/83 MP: 11/13
  8316 | D:8      | Found a glowing golden altar of the Shining One.
  8439 | D:8      | Noticed Pikel
  8465 | D:8      | Your ally Hawl died
  8471 | D:8      | Killed Pikel
  8838 | D:8      | Reached skill level 9 in Shields
  8913 | D:8      | Found Gounuo's Weapon Boutique.


Action                   |  1- 3 |  4- 6 |  7- 9 | 10-12 || total
-------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------++-------
Melee: Mace              |   165 |    55 |       |       ||   220
       Flail             |       |    92 |   426 |    66 ||   584
Invok: Convert to Beogh  |     1 |       |       |       ||     1
 Abil: Evoke Teleportati |       |       |     2 |       ||     2
Evoke: Wand              |       |       |    19 |       ||    19
  Use: Scroll            |     4 |     8 |    10 |       ||    22
       Potion            |       |     7 |     2 |     1 ||    10
 Stab: Distracted        |       |       |       |     1 ||     1



[rchandra]

The Mace of Variability is strong and fun and rare so I would use that. If you don't want to use that, I would still not train shields so as to use an orcish great mace of anything. (still use your shield until you find a two-hander you like).

Speaking of training, training only maces for some time would be good.

[I want to believe]

The Mace of Variability is strong and fun and rare so I would use that. If you don't want to use that, I would still not train shields so as to use an orcish great mace of anything. (still use your shield until you find a two-hander you like).

Speaking of training, training only maces for some time would be good.

I bought the mace, and increased training on mace's & flails. I was a bit disappointed, as a few turns after, it dropped from its incredibly high enchantment to +8, +3. Going into a section of the previous floor that was only enterable via staircase now, hope I don't die from eeeeeeevil vaults.

Edit: Ahhh! Cyclops on D: 7 flanking me with a goliath beetle. Luckily the mace went uber high enchantment again, so I killed it in like 2 hits.

EditEdit: Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh!!! Yakataur with rockworm and yak simulacrum! On D:7!!! Mace of variability to the rescue!

[BlackSheep]

Was it the enchantment level that killed it or one of the chaos effects?

[I want to believe]

Was it the enchantment level that killed it or one of the chaos effects?

I have to be honest, I have no idea. This mace is like Xom ina box. First its awesome, now I smash a bush so my allies can get near me, and one of the bushes runs up and attacks! I hit it this weird bush, and it explodes into fire, putting me in penace under Beogh. Any recommendations on how to get out of penance? Just murder more stuff?

[BlackSheep]

Just keep gaining piety by killing and by sacrificing orc corpses.

[I want to believe]

I finish that, go down, sweep up floor 8, go to floor nine, and get shafted to D:12! I use a fear scroll to chase off the horde of frogs, ogre's, and orcs. I kill some necrophages, and I'm looking for the stairs down, trying to avoid some of the stronger enemies.


(Also, spell check thinks troll, ogre, elf, and dwarf are all words? But not orc? What's up with that?)

[BlackSheep]

I hope you meant you're looking for the stairs up.

[I want to believe]

I hope you meant you're looking for the stairs up.

Oh, yeah, that's what I ment. Came acrossed the lair entrance vault, and 5 headed hydra splatted me. I almost had it killed, then an orc wizard blinked in and lowered my health enough with its dagger swipes.

[Sandman25]

I almost had it killed, then an orc wizard blinked in and lowered my health enough with its dagger swipes.

That's why it's a bad idea to fight a dangerous monster if the fight would bring you to really low HP even in case of success. I am doing the same mistake sometimes though.