CIP:Another DEFE Thread!

Wednesday, 7th August 2013, 17:21 by delarado

As you can tell, I've moved on to playing DEFE rather than MiBe now!

Here's my latest. I was surprised when I looked down at lair:1 and had fireball at hungerless

I have put some XP into dodging for survivability, but apart from that I'm leaving everything going into fire, conjuration and spellcasting. I'm led to believe this is better than what I did before? (Trained all sorts of crap, earth magic, poison magic, translocations, necromancy etc)

I bought the spell book that had haste in it, then realised I couldn't learn it. Why is this?

I learned call imp to make meat shields if i need to. Blink for obvious reasons. Iskenderun's Mystic / Magic dart for fire immune stuff (Dart was for crimson imps early game, Iskenderuns will be for dragons etc im sure, Vehumet gifted it to me, I thought it'd be rude not to learn a non-elemental conjuration spell when I am ploughing XP into conjuration)

Repel missiles / Apportation for obvious reasons. Past that, I'm sticking with "killing it with fire, if it doesnt die, kill it with fire some more"

Today's barrage of questions (hopefully not actually too bad)

1. What do I need to do to be able to learn haste?
2. the +1 robe "Eblefecs" (worn) {Dex-3 Int+4 Dam-6} Is the best robe I have, agreed? I'm not much worried about Dex-3 or Dam-6 as I don't melee and anything that gets next to me (For dex to matter) I'll hopefully just blink away.
3. K - an uncursed large brass ring {tried} I got from a scroll of acquirement where I requested jewellery, I wanted Rpois or rF / rC... I have yet to ID it.
4. What should I use my remaining scroll of acquirement on? I can't think of much I really need? Maybe if I choose armor I'll get a decent wizards hat, seeing as there doesnt seem to be a Gastronok in this game. Thoughts from people more experienced with scrolls of disappointment?
5. I take it the Ring of fire will increase my spell power greater than ring of INT+4?
6. Wands. Not really needed, seeing as it should have been "killed with fire" before I need to resort to a wand. Correct? I'll keep the healing, apart from that I figure drop the rest?

Thanks!

Wish me luck! (And no damn ettins waiting next to stair cases)

Code:: Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.13-a0-2641-gc68e7bd (webtiles) character file. Delarado the Eclecticist (DEFE) Turns: 17291, Time: 01:51:15 HP 59/59 AC 4 Str 7 XL: 12 Next: 87% MP 59/59 EV 15 Int 28 God: Vehumet [*****.] Gold 477 SH 0 Dex 12 Spells: 11 memorised, 14 levels left Res.Fire : + . . See Invis. : . c - staff of power Res.Cold : x . . Warding : + G - +1 robe "Eblefecs" {Dex-3 Int+4 Dam-6} Life Prot.: + . . Conserve : . (no shield) Res.Poison: . Res.Corr. : . (no helmet) Res.Elec. : . Clarity : . (no cloak) Sust.Abil.: . . Spirit.Shd : . a - +0 pair of gloves Res.Mut. : . Stasis : . (no boots) Res.Rott. : . Flight : . n - amulet of warding Saprovore : . . . t - ring of magical power R - ring of fire @: somewhat resistant to hostile enchantments, fairly stealthy A: no striking features a: Renounce Religion You are on level 1 of the Lair of Beasts. You worship Vehumet. Vehumet is extremely pleased with you. You are not hungry. You have visited 3 branches of the dungeon, and seen 15 of its levels. You have collected 907 gold pieces. You have spent 450 gold pieces at shops. Inventory: Hand weapons w - an uncursed blowgun Armour a - a +0 pair of gloves (worn) G - the +1 robe "Eblefecs" (worn) {Dex-3 Int+4 Dam-6} (You found it on level 4 of the Dungeon) It affects your intelligence (+4). It affects your dexterity (-3). It affects your damage-dealing abilities (-6). O - an elven robe of cold resistance P - the +2 robe of Chuwab {Str+4 Dex+1} (You found it on level 7 of the Dungeon) It affects your strength (+4). It affects your dexterity (+1). Magical devices d - a wand of enslavement {zapped: 1} i - a wand of paralysis {zapped: 2} j - a wand of disintegration {zapped: 1} p - a wand of frost {zapped: 8} q - a wand of disintegration {zapped: 1} v - a wand of heal wounds {zapped: 1} A - a wand of fireball {zapped: 1} B - a wand of disintegration Comestibles h - an orange k - 5 meat rations z - 5 strawberries J - 3 bread rations Scrolls b - 2 scrolls labeled KOZXISEOZU m - 2 scrolls labeled SMOPNA LENTU {tried on +0 elven robe, recharging} o - 5 scrolls of remove curse r - 2 scrolls of teleportation u - a scroll of enchant weapon I x - a scroll labeled LARUEN DORUEFE C - 2 scrolls of fog D - 2 scrolls of blinking E - 2 scrolls of amnesia F - 4 scrolls of magic mapping H - a scroll of acquirement L - a scroll of fear Jewellery e - an uncursed ring of see invisible g - an uncursed ring of invisibility n - an amulet of warding (around neck) s - an uncursed ring of ice t - a ring of magical power (right hand) y - a +3 ring of evasion K - an uncursed large brass ring {tried} N - a +4 ring of intelligence R - a ring of fire (left hand) Books f - a book of Minor Magic Spells Type Level *Magic Dart Conjuration 1 *Blink Translocation 2 *Call Imp Summoning 2 *Repel Missiles Charms/Air 2 Slow Hexes 2 *Conjure Flame Conjuration/Fire 3 Mephitic Cloud Conjuration/Poison/Air 3 l - a book of Cantrips Spells Type Level Confusing Touch Hexes 1 Animate Skeleton Necromancy 1 Summon Small Mammal Summoning 1 *Apportation Translocation 1 U - a book of Flames Spells Type Level *Flame Tongue Conjuration/Fire 1 *Throw Flame Conjuration/Fire 2 *Conjure Flame Conjuration/Fire 3 Inner Flame Hexes/Fire 3 *Sticky Flame Conjuration/Fire 4 *Fireball Conjuration/Fire 5 V - a book of Transfigurations Spells Type Level Stoneskin Transmutation/Earth 2 Polymorph Hexes/Transmutation 4 Ice Form Ice/Transmutation 4 Statue Form Transmutation/Earth 6 Dragon Form Transmutation 7 W - a book of Wizardry Spells Type Level Summon Elemental Summoning 4 Agony Necromancy 5 Force Lance Conjuration 5 *Fireball Conjuration/Fire 5 Haste Charms 6 Invisibility Hexes 6 Magical staves c - an uncursed staff of power (weapon) Skills: + Level 6.8 Dodging - Level 2.4 Stealth * Level 15.4 Spellcasting * Level 13.2 Conjurations * Level 13.3 Fire Magic You have 14 spell levels left. You know the following spells: Your Spells Type Power Failure Level Hunger a - Flame Tongue Conj/Fire ##### 0% 1 None b - Throw Flame Conj/Fire ###### 0% 2 None c - Conjure Flame Conj/Fire #######. 1% 3 None d - Sticky Flame Conj/Fire #######. 1% 4 None e - Fireball Conj/Fire #######... 1% 5 None f - Magic Dart Conj #### 0% 1 None g - Iskenderun's Mystic Conj #######. 1% 4 None h - Repel Missiles Chrm/Air ###....... 4% 2 None i - Blink Tloc N/A 4% 2 None j - Apportation Tloc ###....... 2% 1 None k - Call Imp Summ ###....... 4% 2 None Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations Branches: Dungeon (9/27) Temple (1/1) D:7 Lair (5/8) D:9 Orc: D:6-11 Swamp: Lair:3-6 Shoals: Lair:3-6 Snake: Lair:3-6 Spider: Lair:3-6 Altars: Ashenzari Cheibriados Elyvilon Fedhas Kikubaaqudgha Makhleb Nemelex Xobeh Okawaru Sif Muna Trog Vehumet Xom Yredelemnul Zin the Shining One Shops: D:7: + D:9: + Message History a book of Wizardry; a book of Transfigurations; a book of Flames There are several objects here. Pick up a book of Wizardry? ((y)es/(n)o/(a)ll/(m)enu/*?g,/q) W - a book of Wizardry Pick up a book of Transfigurations? ((y)es/(n)o/(a)ll/(m)enu/*?g,/q) V - a book of Transfigurations Pick up a book of Flames? ((y)es/(n)o/(a)ll/(m)enu/*?g,/q) U - a book of Flames Things that are here: a scroll of enchant weapon I; 2 scrolls of magic mapping; 2 scrolls of amnesia There are several objects here. Pick up a scroll of enchant weapon I? ((y)es/(n)o/(a)ll/(m)enu/*?g,/q) u - a scroll of enchant weapon I Pick up 2 scrolls of magic mapping? ((y)es/(n)o/(a)ll/(m)enu/*?g,/q) F - 4 scrolls of magic mapping (gained 2) Pick up 2 scrolls of amnesia? ((y)es/(n)o/(a)ll/(m)enu/*?g,/q) E - 2 scrolls of amnesia Okay, then. Char dumped successfully. Saving game... please wait. #.######.# #.# #.# ### #.# #.# ..# #####.# ##.## #.# ### #####.#P..#####...## ..####.#######.....<............. #..............#..#####...f##.### ######.#..####.(..# #..f###.# # ###### #!.@.# #..## #.### # ##...## ##.#####..## # #.#..###........### # #.#..........##.... #.#####..##........ ### ####........######.P.# #####.####....##..##.## #..## #.............######..# ##.## #.####..###.#.## #..## #..# There are no monsters in sight! Vanquished Creatures Fannar (Lair:1) Harold (Lair:2) 2 hydras The ghost of Moogles the Bludgeoner, an experienced MiFi of Okawaru (D:8) Nergalle (Lair:1) Pikel (D:5) 4 orc knights (D:7) 6 elephants (D:9) 3 black mambas 4 spiny frogs 2 komodo dragons Grinder (D:5) 6 blink frogs A grizzly bear (Lair:2) 2 basilisks 2 wyverns A trapdoor spider (Lair:5) 35 yaks 6 hippogriffs Menkaure (D:7) A porcupine (Lair:1) 4 orc warriors (D:7) A slave (D:5) 3 ice beasts 3 ogres A black bear (Lair:2) 2 sky beasts A phantom (D:7) A centaur (D:7) 14 wargs (D:7) 6 giant frogs 6 water moccasins A giant slug (Lair:4) 6 crocodiles 2 agate snails A wyvern skeleton (D:7) 4 killer bees (D:7) A goliath beetle (D:7) A crimson imp (D:8) A gnoll shaman (D:5) A centaur zombie (D:7) A giant frog zombie (D:8) 8 iguanas 7 hounds Crazy Yiuf (D:6) 5 orc priests A two-headed ogre zombie (D:8) 9 worker ants 5 orc wizards A scorpion (D:4) 8 sheep (Lair:4) A crocodile zombie (D:8) Jessica (D:2) 2 jellies 7 gnolls 48 green rats 15 adders 5 giant centipedes A worm (D:7) A scorpion zombie (D:7) An iguana zombie (D:7) 9 giant geckos An ooze (D:2) 51 orcs 22 bats 5 giant cockroaches 10 goblins 11 hobgoblins 20 jackals 18 kobolds 9 quokkas 4 ball pythons 2 giant newts A hobgoblin zombie (D:7) A jackal skeleton (D:6) 14 rats A bush (Lair:1) 3 fungi 3 plants (Lair:5) 455 creatures vanquished. Vanquished Creatures (others) An ogre (D:5) A hound (D:5) A crimson imp (D:5) 2 orcs (D:7) A giant cockroach (D:5) 6 creatures vanquished. Grand Total: 461 creatures vanquished Notes Turn | Place | Note -------------------------------------------------------------- 0 | D:1 | Delarado, the Deep Elf Fire Elementalist, began the quest for the Orb. 0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 1. HP: 10/10 MP: 4/4 178 | D:1 | Reached XP level 2. HP: 15/15 MP: 7/7 241 | D:1 | Learned a level 2 spell: Throw Flame 847 | D:2 | Noticed Jessica 851 | D:2 | Killed Jessica 851 | D:2 | Reached XP level 3. HP: 19/19 MP: 10/10 896 | D:2 | Reached skill level 4 in Fire Magic 1314 | D:2 | Reached XP level 4. HP: 24/24 MP: 3/13 1329 | D:2 | Learned a level 4 spell: Sticky Flame 2115 | D:3 | Reached XP level 5. HP: 4/28 MP: 12/16 3230 | D:4 | Reached skill level 5 in Fire Magic 3539 | D:4 | Reached XP level 6. HP: 12/32 MP: 20/20 3757 | D:4 | Found a sparkling altar of Nemelex Xobeh. 4166 | D:4 | Reached skill level 5 in Spellcasting 4171 | D:4 | Learned a level 3 spell: Conjure Flame 4192 | D:4 | Got an opalescent robe 4198 | D:4 | Identified the +1 robe "Eblefecs" {Dex-3 Int+4 Dam-6} (You found it on level 4 of the Dungeon) 4759 | D:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon 4810 | D:5 | Reached XP level 7. HP: 36/36 MP: 21/22 4872 | D:5 | Noticed Pikel 4905 | D:5 | Killed Pikel 4905 | D:5 | Reached skill level 7 in Spellcasting 4905 | D:5 | Reached skill level 5 in Conjurations 5101 | D:5 | Noticed Grinder 5104 | D:5 | Paralysed by Grinder for 3 turns 5186 | D:4 | Learned a level 5 spell: Fireball 5363 | D:5 | Reached XP level 8. HP: 41/41 MP: 25/25 5571 | D:5 | Killed Grinder 5897 | D:5 | Found a glowing silver altar of Zin. 5983 | D:6 | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha. 6236 | D:6 | Reached skill level 8 in Spellcasting 6417 | D:6 | Found a white marble altar of Elyvilon. 6634 | D:6 | Noticed Crazy Yiuf 6648 | D:6 | Killed Crazy Yiuf 6743 | D:7 | Noticed Menkaure 6744 | D:7 | Killed Menkaure 6744 | D:7 | Reached skill level 9 in Spellcasting 6753 | D:7 | Reached XP level 9. HP: 39/45 MP: 15/28 6977 | D:7 | Found Asuerita's Book Boutique. 7029 | D:7 | Got a tattered robe 7038 | D:7 | Identified the +2 robe of Chuwab {Str+4 Dex+1} (You found it on level 7 of the Dungeon) 7530 | D:7 | Found a shattered altar of Ashenzari. 7753 | D:7 | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple. 7781 | D:7 | Reached skill level 10 in Spellcasting 7905 | Temple | Entered the Ecumenical Temple 7948 | Temple | Became a worshipper of Vehumet 8010 | D:7 | Found a shimmering altar of Xom. 8037 | D:7 | Found a blossoming altar of Fedhas. 8044 | D:7 | Found a sparkling altar of Nemelex Xobeh. 8728 | D:7 | Noticed an orc knight 8732 | D:7 | Killed an orc knight 8896 | D:7 | Noticed an orc knight 8914 | D:7 | Killed an orc knight 8914 | D:7 | Reached skill level 11 in Spellcasting 8914 | D:7 | Reached XP level 10. HP: 31/50 MP: 7/31 9063 | D:7 | Acquired Vehumet's first power 9063 | D:7 | Offered knowledge of Sting by Vehumet. 9243 | D:7 | Noticed an orc knight 9247 | D:7 | Noticed an orc knight 9274 | D:7 | Killed an orc knight 9274 | D:7 | Reached skill level 10 in Fire Magic 9403 | D:7 | Noticed an orc knight 9408 | D:7 | Killed an orc knight 9721 | D:7 | Reached skill level 10 in Conjurations 10367 | D:8 | Found a shimmering altar of Xom. 10476 | D:8 | Reached skill level 12 in Spellcasting 10510 | D:8 | Identified a scroll of acquirement 10682 | D:8 | Noticed Moogles' ghost (experienced MiFi) 10749 | D:8 | Killed Moogles' ghost 10881 | D:8 | Offered knowledge of Magic Dart by Vehumet. 10884 | D:8 | Learned a level 1 spell: Magic Dart 11542 | D:9 | Found Celumol's Book Emporium. 11550 | D:9 | Bought a book of Wizardry for 450 gold pieces 11563 | D:9 | Noticed an elephant 11563 | D:9 | Noticed an elephant 11563 | D:9 | Noticed an elephant 11567 | D:9 | Noticed an elephant 11569 | D:9 | Killed an elephant 11569 | D:9 | Reached XP level 11. HP: 54/54 MP: 33/33 11583 | D:9 | Killed an elephant 11592 | D:9 | Killed an elephant 11599 | D:9 | Killed an elephant 11730 | D:9 | Noticed an elephant 11730 | D:9 | Noticed an elephant 11756 | D:9 | Killed an elephant 11874 | D:9 | Found a staircase to the Lair. 11886 | D:9 | Killed an elephant 11886 | D:9 | Reached skill level 13 in Spellcasting 11974 | Lair:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts 12301 | Lair:1 | Offered knowledge of Searing Ray by Vehumet. 12444 | Lair:1 | Acquired Vehumet's second power 12450 | Lair:1 | Noticed a six-headed hydra 12451 | Lair:1 | Killed a six-headed hydra 12452 | Lair:1 | Noticed Fannar 12608 | Lair:1 | Found a frozen archway. 12833 | Lair:1 | Noticed Nergalle 12837 | Lair:1 | Killed Nergalle 13058 | Lair:1 | Killed Fannar 13356 | Lair:1 | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging 13475 | Lair:1 | Paralysed by you for 5 turns 13680 | Lair:2 | Offered knowledge of Iskenderun's Mystic Blast by Vehumet. 13686 | Lair:2 | Learned a level 4 spell: Iskenderun's Mystic Blast 13699 | Lair:2 | Reached skill level 14 in Spellcasting 13836 | Lair:2 | Reached XP level 12. HP: 55/59 MP: 35/35 14135 | Lair:2 | Noticed Harold 14139 | Lair:2 | Killed Harold 14447 | Lair:2 | Acquired Vehumet's third power 14541 | Lair:2 | Learned a level 2 spell: Repel Missiles 14544 | Lair:2 | Learned a level 2 spell: Blink 15396 | Lair:3 | Learned a level 1 spell: Apportation 15399 | Lair:3 | Learned a level 2 spell: Call Imp 15533 | Lair:3 | Offered knowledge of Airstrike by Vehumet. 16048 | Lair:4 | Noticed a six-headed hydra 16050 | Lair:4 | Killed a six-headed hydra 16050 | Lair:4 | Reached skill level 15 in Spellcasting 16397 | Lair:5 | Offered knowledge of Olgreb's Toxic Radiance by Vehumet. Action | 1- 3 | 4- 6 | 7- 9 | 10-12 || total -------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------++------- Melee: Short sword | | 8 | | || 8 Unarmed | | | 12 | 3 || 15 Staff | | | | 9 || 9 Fire: Blowgun | | 68 | 4 | || 72 Throw: Dagger | 31 | 1 | | || 32 Stone | 27 | | | || 27 Dart | 2 | | | || 2 Spear | | 1 | | || 1 Cast: Flame Tongue | 51 | 75 | 110 | 73 || 309 Throw Flame | 6 | 29 | 68 | 142 || 245 Sticky Flame | | 4 | 33 | 46 || 83 Conjure Flame | | 1 | 7 | 13 || 21 Fireball | | | 16 | 168 || 184 Magic Dart | | | | 10 || 10 Iskenderun's Myst | | | | 3 || 3 Call Imp | | | | 1 || 1 Evoke: Wand | | | 5 | 6 || 11 Use: Scroll | | 13 | 2 | 13 || 28 Potion | | | | 2 || 2

Wednesday, 7th August 2013, 17:30 by Siegurt

delarado wrote:I have put some XP into dodging for survivability, but apart from that I'm leaving everything going into fire, conjuration and spellcasting. I'm led to believe this is better than what I did before? (Trained all sorts of crap)

Yes, focusing your skills particularly in the early game is much better

delarado wrote:
I bought the spell book that had haste in it, then realised I couldn't learn it. Why is this?

In order to memorize a spell, you need three things, 1 to be that spell's level or higher, 2 to have enough spell slots, 3 to have that spell at <100% failure rate, in your case you'd need some charm skill (or more spellcasting) to memorize it. you could probably manage it with a potion of brilliance if you don't have any other charms to memorize first.

delarado wrote:
I learned call imp to make meat shields if i need to. Blink for obvious reasons. Iskenderun's Mystic / Magic dart for fire immune stuff (Dart was for crimson imps early game, Iskenderuns will be for dragons etc im sure, Vehumet gifted it to me, I thought it'd be rude not to learn a non-elemental conjuration spell when I am ploughing XP into conjuration)

Repel missiles / Apportation for obvious reasons. Past that, I'm sticking with "killing it with fire, if it doesnt die, kill it with fire some more"

Today's barrage of questions (hopefully not actually too bad)

1. What do I need to do to be able to learn haste?

See above

delarado wrote:2. the +1 robe "Eblefecs" (worn) {Dex-3 Int+4 Dam-6} Is the best robe I have, agreed? I'm not much worried about Dex-3 or Dam-6 as I don't melee and anything that gets next to me (For dex to matter) I'll hopefully just blink away.

It appears to be so.

delarado wrote:3. K - an uncursed large brass ring {tried} I got from a scroll of acquirement where I requested jewellery, I wanted Rpois or rF / rC... I have yet to ID it.

That is not a question

delarado wrote:4. What should I use my remaining scroll of acquirement on? I can't think of much I really need? Maybe if I choose armor I'll get a decent wizards hat, seeing as there doesnt seem to be a Gastronok in this game. Thoughts from people more experienced with scrolls of disappointment?

Acquiring armour is likely to get you a slot that you don't have filled, with Ok chances at a decent one, acquiring a staff is likely to get you a staff of fire, which would also be quite nice.

delarado wrote:5. I take it the Ring of fire will increase my spell power greater than INT+4?

Ring of fire is +50% (raw) power to fire spells, so unless you had 8 or less int, the ring of fire would do more for spell power, of course int also reduces spell hunger, and gives bonuses to all spells, not just fire ones

delarado wrote:
Thanks! Wish me luck! (And no damn ettins waiting next to stair cases)

Good luck!

Wednesday, 7th August 2013, 17:31 by BlackSheep

You'll need some Charms skill to learn Haste. Luckily you can train it now that you know Repel Missiles.

Your robe is trash. Stick with a +2 robe of some resistance.

I'd try to acquire a staff. If you get a staff of fire or conjurations, you'll have a nice spell enhancer that will last you the rest of the game.

The ring of fire will indeed do more for your spell power than +4 int. Be wary of walking around with cold vulnerability, however.

Wednesday, 7th August 2013, 17:33 by Siegurt

Actually if you're going to use the ring of fire, definitely use this:

Code:: an elven robe of cold resistance

it will cancel out the resistance penalty from the ring.

Wednesday, 7th August 2013, 17:58 by delarado

Staff of wizardry on the acquirement scroll.... Thats nice and useless! It let me learn haste I suppose... But I think I prefer the extra MP from staff of power.

Ive changed my robe now. Will having 4 less int not lower my spell damage drastically?

Wednesday, 7th August 2013, 18:19 by Siegurt

No, only slightly, and the added damage done by using the ring of fire more than makes up for it.

Wednesday, 7th August 2013, 18:20 by delarado

Ok, got one of those annoying levels, where the entire level is completely open, and all 3 stair cases are next to each other on the downstairs. There are four elephants and a hydra just waiting to kill me. Pretty much a carbon copy of my last death to an ettin.

If i go do something else for a while, will they disperse? How long is "a while"?

Turn count 19328 at the moment, If I go do orc:1 and 2, they will have wandered off when i return?

Wednesday, 7th August 2013, 20:14 by Siegurt

They will disperse after a while, how long a "while" is pretty subjective, if you go do orc 1 and 2 and come back they probably will have moved off.

Thursday, 8th August 2013, 00:25 by delarado

It's going fairly well, I have haste now to a decent failure rate (10% is acceptable, right?) and some nice kit.

Still haven't found anything MR+ though and I'm a bit scared I'll get abyss'd by something. We will see. Could do with some MR+ and rPois+ at some point soon... but otherwise happy with how things are going. Fingers crossed I'm not dead by this time tomorrow!

I have access to the silence spell. Is this something I want to work towards, or should I be aiming to kill everything before I have to silence it?

Code:: Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.13-a0-2641-gc68e7bd (webtiles) character file. Delarado the Eclecticist (DEFE) Turns: 24769, Time: 02:55:20 HP 63/63 AC 6 Str 7 XL: 13 Next: 61% MP 57/59 EV 16 Int 24 God: Vehumet [*****.] Gold 959 SH 0 Dex 15 Spells: 12 memorised, 10 levels left Res.Fire : + . . See Invis. : . c - staff of power Res.Cold : . . . Warding : + O - +2 elf robe {rC+} Life Prot.: + . . Conserve : . (no shield) Res.Poison: . Res.Corr. : . (no helmet) Res.Elec. : . Clarity : . (no cloak) Sust.Abil.: . . Spirit.Shd : . a - +0 pair of gloves Res.Mut. : . Stasis : . J - +0 pair of boots Res.Rott. : . Flight : . n - amulet of warding Saprovore : . . . B - ring of magical power R - ring of fire @: somewhat resistant to hostile enchantments, fairly stealthy A: no striking features a: Renounce Religion You are on level 1 of the Lair of Beasts. You worship Vehumet. Vehumet is exalted by your worship. You are not hungry. You have visited 3 branches of the dungeon, and seen 20 of its levels. You have also visited: Volcano. You have collected 1389 gold pieces. You have spent 450 gold pieces at shops. Inventory: Armour a - a +0 pair of gloves (worn) i - a +2 robe of fire resistance J - a +0 pair of boots (worn) O - a +2 elven robe of cold resistance (worn) Magical devices v - a wand of heal wounds {zapped: 1} P - a wand of digging {zapped: 2} Comestibles k - 4 meat rations G - a choko Scrolls q - 2 scrolls of magic mapping u - a scroll of vulnerability w - 3 scrolls labeled SMOPNA LENTU {tried on +0 elven robe, recharging} y - 2 scrolls of remove curse z - 4 scrolls of teleportation C - 2 scrolls of fog D - 3 scrolls of blinking L - a scroll of fear Jewellery e - an uncursed ring of see invisible n - an amulet of warding (around neck) o - an uncursed ring of sustain abilities B - a ring of magical power (right hand) K - an uncursed ring of protection from cold R - a ring of fire (left hand) Potions b - 2 potions of agility d - 4 potions of curing f - 3 potions of heal wounds l - 3 potions of magic m - a potion of restore abilities M - 3 potions of brilliance U - 2 potions of resistance W - 3 potions of invisibility Magical staves c - an uncursed staff of power (weapon) Skills: + Level 7.3 Dodging - Level 2.4 Stealth * Level 15.8 Spellcasting * Level 13.5 Conjurations - Level 10.0 Charms * Level 13.7 Fire Magic You have 10 spell levels left. You know the following spells: Your Spells Type Power Failure Level Hunger a - Flame Tongue Conj/Fire ##### 0% 1 None b - Throw Flame Conj/Fire ###### 0% 2 None c - Conjure Flame Conj/Fire #######. 1% 3 None d - Sticky Flame Conj/Fire #######. 1% 4 None e - Fireball Conj/Fire #######... 1% 5 None f - Magic Dart Conj #### 0% 1 None g - Iskenderun's Mystic Conj ######.. 1% 4 None h - Repel Missiles Chrm/Air #####..... 1% 2 None i - Blink Tloc N/A 6% 2 None j - Apportation Tloc ###....... 3% 1 None k - Call Imp Summ ###....... 6% 2 None l - Haste Chrm ######.. 10% 6 ####... Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations Branches: Dungeon (12/27) Temple (1/1) D:7 Orc (0/4) D:11 Lair (7/8) D:9 Swamp (0/5) Lair:6 Spider (0/5) Lair:6 Slime: Lair:6-8 Altars: Ashenzari Cheibriados Elyvilon Fedhas Kikubaaqudgha Makhleb Nemelex Xobeh Okawaru Sif Muna Trog Vehumet Xom Yredelemnul Zin the Shining One Shops: D:7: + D:9: + Annotations D:12 exclusion: silver statue Message History a fuming white potion; a bubbling pink potion Drop what? (_ for help) (? for menu, Esc to quit) You drop 8 potions of curing. You drop 2 potions of heal wounds. You drop a potion of restore abilities. Items here: :::::: Drop what? (_ for help) (? for menu, Esc to quit) Okay, then. Okay, then. Drop what? (_ for help) (? for menu, Esc to quit) You drop a book of Transfigurations. You drop Sif Muna's Catalogue of Protection and Feathers. Okay, then. Casting: Fireball Confirm with . or Enter, or press ? or * to list all spells. Okay, then. Things that are here: an uncursed blowgun; 5 needles of slowing; 16 poisoned needles; a dart of frost Drop what? (_ for help) (? for menu, Esc to quit) You drop an uncursed staff of wizardry. #........# #.######.# #.# #.# #### #.# #.# ...# #####.# ##.## ##.# ### #####.#...#####...# #..####.#######.....<............ ##..............#..#####...f##.## #######.#..####:@=%# #..f###.# # ###### #![/?# #..## #.## ## ##...## ##.#####..# P# #.#..###........## ## #!#=.........##... # #.#####..##....... ### ####........######.P. #####.####....##..##.## #..# #.............######..# ##.## There are no monsters in sight! Vanquished Creatures Fannar (Lair:1) Harold (Lair:2) 4 hydras The ghost of Moogles the Bludgeoner, an experienced MiFi of Okawaru (D:8) Nergalle (Lair:1) Pikel (D:5) 3 hill giants 5 orc knights (D:7) A cyclops (D:11) 8 elephants (D:9) 3 black mambas 7 spiny frogs 2 komodo dragons Grinder (D:5) 2 two-headed ogres (D:9) 2 trolls (D:12) A hydra skeleton (D:11) 6 blink frogs A griffon zombie (D:12) A grizzly bear (Lair:2) A shadow (D:12) 2 basilisks 2 wyverns A griffon skeleton (D:10) 3 toenail golems (Volcano) A trapdoor spider (Lair:5) 35 yaks An elephant slug (Lair:6) 6 hippogriffs A deep elf fighter (D:9) 2 manticores (D:12) A hungry ghost (D:12) A hill giant skeleton (D:12) A swamp worm (Lair:6) Menkaure (D:7) A necrophage (D:9) 3 porcupines 7 orc warriors A slave (D:5) A giant goldfish (Lair:6) 3 ice beasts 4 ogres A black bear (Lair:2) 4 humans (Volcano) 3 sky beasts A phantom (D:7) 3 centaurs 14 wargs (D:7) 2 big kobolds 10 giant frogs 10 water moccasins A giant slug (Lair:4) 7 crocodiles A wyvern zombie (D:12) 4 agate snails 2 wyvern skeletons A troll zombie (D:12) 13 killer bees An electric eel (Lair:6) 3 goliath beetles 5 crimson imps 8 spiders (Lair:6) A gnoll shaman (D:5) A centaur zombie (D:7) 3 giant frog zombies 10 iguanas 8 hounds Crazy Yiuf (D:6) 6 orc priests A two-headed ogre zombie (D:8) 10 worker ants 15 orc wizards 6 big fish (Lair:6) 3 scorpions 19 sheep A crocodile zombie (D:8) Jessica (D:2) A big kobold zombie (D:11) 5 jellies 11 gnolls 64 green rats 19 adders A shadow imp (D:12) 5 giant centipedes 2 worms A scorpion zombie (D:7) An iguana zombie (D:7) 9 giant geckos An ooze (D:2) 66 orcs 27 bats 5 giant cockroaches 10 goblins 13 hobgoblins 20 jackals 28 kobolds 12 quokkas 4 ball pythons 2 giant newts A giant spore (D:9) A hobgoblin zombie (D:7) A jackal skeleton (D:6) 16 rats A bush (Lair:1) 3 fungi 4 plants 645 creatures vanquished. Vanquished Creatures (collateral kills) A human (Volcano) 1 creature vanquished. Vanquished Creatures (others) A rakshasa (D:12) A sixfirhy (D:12) A neqoxec (D:12) An ogre (D:5) A hound (D:5) A crimson imp (D:5) A lemure (D:12) 3 white imps (Volcano) 2 orcs (D:7) A giant cockroach (D:5) A human (Volcano) 14 creatures vanquished. Grand Total: 660 creatures vanquished Notes Turn | Place | Note -------------------------------------------------------------- 0 | D:1 | Delarado, the Deep Elf Fire Elementalist, began the quest for the Orb. 0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 1. HP: 10/10 MP: 4/4 178 | D:1 | Reached XP level 2. HP: 15/15 MP: 7/7 241 | D:1 | Learned a level 2 spell: Throw Flame 847 | D:2 | Noticed Jessica 851 | D:2 | Killed Jessica 851 | D:2 | Reached XP level 3. HP: 19/19 MP: 10/10 896 | D:2 | Reached skill level 4 in Fire Magic 1314 | D:2 | Reached XP level 4. HP: 24/24 MP: 3/13 1329 | D:2 | Learned a level 4 spell: Sticky Flame 2115 | D:3 | Reached XP level 5. HP: 4/28 MP: 12/16 3230 | D:4 | Reached skill level 5 in Fire Magic 3539 | D:4 | Reached XP level 6. HP: 12/32 MP: 20/20 3757 | D:4 | Found a sparkling altar of Nemelex Xobeh. 4166 | D:4 | Reached skill level 5 in Spellcasting 4171 | D:4 | Learned a level 3 spell: Conjure Flame 4192 | D:4 | Got an opalescent robe 4198 | D:4 | Identified the +1 robe "Eblefecs" {Dex-3 Int+4 Dam-6} (You found it on level 4 of the Dungeon) 4759 | D:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon 4810 | D:5 | Reached XP level 7. HP: 36/36 MP: 21/22 4872 | D:5 | Noticed Pikel 4905 | D:5 | Killed Pikel 4905 | D:5 | Reached skill level 7 in Spellcasting 4905 | D:5 | Reached skill level 5 in Conjurations 5101 | D:5 | Noticed Grinder 5104 | D:5 | Paralysed by Grinder for 3 turns 5186 | D:4 | Learned a level 5 spell: Fireball 5363 | D:5 | Reached XP level 8. HP: 41/41 MP: 25/25 5571 | D:5 | Killed Grinder 5897 | D:5 | Found a glowing silver altar of Zin. 5983 | D:6 | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha. 6236 | D:6 | Reached skill level 8 in Spellcasting 6417 | D:6 | Found a white marble altar of Elyvilon. 6634 | D:6 | Noticed Crazy Yiuf 6648 | D:6 | Killed Crazy Yiuf 6743 | D:7 | Noticed Menkaure 6744 | D:7 | Killed Menkaure 6744 | D:7 | Reached skill level 9 in Spellcasting 6753 | D:7 | Reached XP level 9. HP: 39/45 MP: 15/28 6977 | D:7 | Found Asuerita's Book Boutique. 7029 | D:7 | Got a tattered robe 7038 | D:7 | Identified the +2 robe of Chuwab {Str+4 Dex+1} (You found it on level 7 of the Dungeon) 7530 | D:7 | Found a shattered altar of Ashenzari. 7753 | D:7 | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple. 7781 | D:7 | Reached skill level 10 in Spellcasting 7905 | Temple | Entered the Ecumenical Temple 7948 | Temple | Became a worshipper of Vehumet 8010 | D:7 | Found a shimmering altar of Xom. 8037 | D:7 | Found a blossoming altar of Fedhas. 8044 | D:7 | Found a sparkling altar of Nemelex Xobeh. 8728 | D:7 | Noticed an orc knight 8732 | D:7 | Killed an orc knight 8896 | D:7 | Noticed an orc knight 8914 | D:7 | Killed an orc knight 8914 | D:7 | Reached skill level 11 in Spellcasting 8914 | D:7 | Reached XP level 10. HP: 31/50 MP: 7/31 9063 | D:7 | Acquired Vehumet's first power 9063 | D:7 | Offered knowledge of Sting by Vehumet. 9243 | D:7 | Noticed an orc knight 9247 | D:7 | Noticed an orc knight 9274 | D:7 | Killed an orc knight 9274 | D:7 | Reached skill level 10 in Fire Magic 9403 | D:7 | Noticed an orc knight 9408 | D:7 | Killed an orc knight 9721 | D:7 | Reached skill level 10 in Conjurations 10367 | D:8 | Found a shimmering altar of Xom. 10476 | D:8 | Reached skill level 12 in Spellcasting 10510 | D:8 | Identified a scroll of acquirement 10682 | D:8 | Noticed Moogles' ghost (experienced MiFi) 10749 | D:8 | Killed Moogles' ghost 10881 | D:8 | Offered knowledge of Magic Dart by Vehumet. 10884 | D:8 | Learned a level 1 spell: Magic Dart 11542 | D:9 | Found Celumol's Book Emporium. 11550 | D:9 | Bought a book of Wizardry for 450 gold pieces 11563 | D:9 | Noticed an elephant 11563 | D:9 | Noticed an elephant 11563 | D:9 | Noticed an elephant 11567 | D:9 | Noticed an elephant 11569 | D:9 | Killed an elephant 11569 | D:9 | Reached XP level 11. HP: 54/54 MP: 33/33 11583 | D:9 | Killed an elephant 11592 | D:9 | Killed an elephant 11599 | D:9 | Killed an elephant 11730 | D:9 | Noticed an elephant 11730 | D:9 | Noticed an elephant 11756 | D:9 | Killed an elephant 11874 | D:9 | Found a staircase to the Lair. 11886 | D:9 | Killed an elephant 11886 | D:9 | Reached skill level 13 in Spellcasting 11974 | Lair:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts 12301 | Lair:1 | Offered knowledge of Searing Ray by Vehumet. 12444 | Lair:1 | Acquired Vehumet's second power 12450 | Lair:1 | Noticed a six-headed hydra 12451 | Lair:1 | Killed a six-headed hydra 12452 | Lair:1 | Noticed Fannar 12608 | Lair:1 | Found a frozen archway. 12833 | Lair:1 | Noticed Nergalle 12837 | Lair:1 | Killed Nergalle 13058 | Lair:1 | Killed Fannar 13356 | Lair:1 | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging 13475 | Lair:1 | Paralysed by you for 5 turns 13680 | Lair:2 | Offered knowledge of Iskenderun's Mystic Blast by Vehumet. 13686 | Lair:2 | Learned a level 4 spell: Iskenderun's Mystic Blast 13699 | Lair:2 | Reached skill level 14 in Spellcasting 13836 | Lair:2 | Reached XP level 12. HP: 55/59 MP: 35/35 14135 | Lair:2 | Noticed Harold 14139 | Lair:2 | Killed Harold 14447 | Lair:2 | Acquired Vehumet's third power 14541 | Lair:2 | Learned a level 2 spell: Repel Missiles 14544 | Lair:2 | Learned a level 2 spell: Blink 15396 | Lair:3 | Learned a level 1 spell: Apportation 15399 | Lair:3 | Learned a level 2 spell: Call Imp 15533 | Lair:3 | Offered knowledge of Airstrike by Vehumet. 16048 | Lair:4 | Noticed a six-headed hydra 16050 | Lair:4 | Killed a six-headed hydra 16050 | Lair:4 | Reached skill level 15 in Spellcasting 16397 | Lair:5 | Offered knowledge of Olgreb's Toxic Radiance by Vehumet. 17306 | Lair:1 | Learned a level 6 spell: Haste 17825 | Lair:6 | Reached skill level 1 in Charms 17825 | Lair:6 | Reached XP level 13. HP: 55/63 MP: 24/37 17865 | Lair:6 | Found a dark tunnel. 17874 | Volcano | Entered a volcano 18523 | Lair:6 | Found a hole to the Spider Nest. 19097 | Lair:6 | Offered knowledge of Conjure Ball Lightning by Vehumet. 19134 | Lair:6 | Found a staircase to the Swamp. 19581 | D:9 | Noticed an elephant 19583 | D:9 | Killed an elephant 19708 | D:9 | Reached skill level 5 in Charms 19814 | D:9 | Noticed an elephant 19816 | D:9 | Killed an elephant 20229 | D:10 | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon 21377 | D:7 | Killed an orc knight 22429 | D:11 | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines. 22979 | D:11 | Reached skill level 10 in Charms 23140 | D:11 | Offered knowledge of Lightning Bolt by Vehumet. 24138 | D:12 | Identified Sif Muna's Catalogue of Protection and Feathers Action | 1- 3 | 4- 6 | 7- 9 | 10-12 | 13-15 || total -------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------++------- Melee: Short sword | | 8 | | | || 8 Unarmed | | | 12 | 3 | || 15 Staff | | | | 9 | || 9 Fire: Blowgun | | 68 | 4 | | || 72 Throw: Dagger | 31 | 1 | | | || 32 Stone | 27 | | | | || 27 Dart | 2 | | | | || 2 Spear | | 1 | | | || 1 Cast: Flame Tongue | 51 | 75 | 110 | 81 | 11 || 328 Throw Flame | 6 | 29 | 68 | 147 | 21 || 271 Sticky Flame | | 4 | 33 | 47 | 7 || 91 Conjure Flame | | 1 | 7 | 13 | || 21 Fireball | | | 16 | 199 | 170 || 385 Magic Dart | | | | 10 | || 10 Iskenderun's Myst | | | | 3 | 20 || 23 Call Imp | | | | 1 | 10 || 11 Haste | | | | | 4 || 4 Apportation | | | | | 1 || 1 Evoke: Wand | | | 5 | 6 | 7 || 18 Use: Scroll | | 13 | 2 | 14 | 11 || 40 Potion | | | | 2 | || 2

Thursday, 8th August 2013, 00:32 by BlackSheep

How would you kill somethibg after silencing it?
(No, your DEFE^Veh probably doesn't want silence)

Thursday, 8th August 2013, 14:59 by delarado

So, I think I just did something stupid.

Cast haste before it had ran out (I was expecting a hard fight)

Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You tend to lose your temper in combat.

Do I have to quaff a potion of cure mutation now to stop me randomly ending up berserk and/or exhausted / passing out in the middle of a fight?

Code:: Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.13-a0-2643-gffe6e9f (webtiles) character file. Delarado the Eclecticist (DEFE) Turns: 28377, Time: 03:20:13 HP 68/68 AC 7 Str 7 XL: 14 Next: 0% MP 60/60 EV 17 Int 24 God: Vehumet [*****.] Gold 2152 SH 0 Dex 15 Spells: 13 memorised, 6 levels left Res.Fire : + . . See Invis. : . c - staff of power Res.Cold : . . . Warding : + O - +2 elf robe {rC+} Life Prot.: + . . Conserve : . (no shield) Res.Poison: . Res.Corr. : . (no helmet) Res.Elec. : . Clarity : . h - +0 cloak Sust.Abil.: . . Spirit.Shd : . a - +0 pair of gloves Res.Mut. : . Stasis : . J - +0 pair of boots Res.Rott. : . Flight : . n - amulet of warding Saprovore : . . . B - ring of magical power R - ring of fire @: somewhat resistant to hostile enchantments, fairly stealthy A: berserk 1 a: Renounce Religion You are on level 1 of the Lair of Beasts. You worship Vehumet. Vehumet is exalted by your worship. You are not hungry. You have visited 4 branches of the dungeon, and seen 23 of its levels. You have also visited: Bailey and Volcano. You have collected 2582 gold pieces. You have spent 450 gold pieces at shops. Inventory: Hand weapons p - a glowing quarterstaff Armour a - a +0 pair of gloves (worn) h - a +0 cloak (worn) i - a +2 robe of fire resistance J - a +0 pair of boots (worn) O - a +2 elven robe of cold resistance (worn) Magical devices v - a wand of heal wounds {zapped: 1} P - a wand of digging {zapped: 3} Comestibles k - a meat ration Scrolls q - 2 scrolls of magic mapping w - 3 scrolls labeled SMOPNA LENTU {tried on +0 elven robe, recharging} y - 3 scrolls of remove curse z - 4 scrolls of teleportation C - 2 scrolls of fog D - 3 scrolls of blinking L - 2 scrolls of fear Jewellery e - an uncursed ring of see invisible n - an amulet of warding (around neck) o - an uncursed ring of sustain abilities B - a ring of magical power (right hand) K - an uncursed ring of protection from cold R - a ring of fire (left hand) Potions b - 2 potions of agility d - 6 potions of curing f - 3 potions of heal wounds l - 3 potions of magic m - a potion of restore abilities M - 3 potions of brilliance U - 3 potions of resistance W - 3 potions of invisibility Magical staves c - an uncursed staff of power (weapon) j - a staff of wizardry Miscellaneous g - a plain deck of cards t - a stone of tremors Skills: + Level 8.0 Dodging - Level 2.4 Stealth * Level 16.3 Spellcasting * Level 14.0 Conjurations - Level 10.0 Charms * Level 14.1 Fire Magic You have 6 spell levels left. You know the following spells: Your Spells Type Power Failure Level Hunger a - Flame Tongue Conj/Fire ##### 0% 1 None b - Throw Flame Conj/Fire ###### 0% 2 None c - Conjure Flame Conj/Fire #######. 1% 3 None d - Sticky Flame Conj/Fire #######. 1% 4 None e - Fireball Conj/Fire #######... 1% 5 None f - Magic Dart Conj #### 0% 1 None g - Iskenderun's Mystic Conj ######.. 1% 4 None h - Repel Missiles Chrm/Air #####..... 1% 2 None i - Blink Tloc N/A 4% 2 None j - Apportation Tloc ###....... 2% 1 None k - Call Imp Summ ###....... 4% 2 None l - Haste Chrm ######.. 10% 6 ####... m - Bolt of Fire Conj/Fire #######... 1% 6 ####... Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations Branches: Dungeon (13/27) Temple (1/1) D:7 Orc (2/4) D:11 Lair (7/8) D:9 Swamp (0/5) Lair:6 Spider (0/5) Lair:6 Slime: Lair:6-8 Altars: Ashenzari Cheibriados Elyvilon Fedhas Kikubaaqudgha Makhleb Nemelex Xobeh Okawaru Sif Muna Trog Vehumet Xom Yredelemnul Zin the Shining One Shops: D:7: + D:9: + Annotations D:12 exclusion: silver statue Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations You tend to lose your temper in combat. Message History You see here a giant club. There is a stone staircase leading up here. You climb upwards. There is a stone staircase leading down here. There is a stone staircase leading up here. You climb upwards. There is a stone staircase leading down here. There is a staircase to the Lair here. You climb downwards. Welcome to the Lair of Beasts! There is a staircase back to the Dungeon here. Things that are here: an uncursed ring of magical power; an uncursed ring of invisibility a +4 ring of intelligence; a +3 ring of evasion Things that are here: the +2 robe of Chuwab {Str+4 Dex+1} the +1 robe "Eblefecs" {Dex-3 Int+4 Dam-6} a +0 elven robe of fire resistance; a +2 robe of fire resistance Items here: !!!!!!!!!!! Char dumped successfully. Saving game... please wait. #.######.# #.# #.# ##### #.# #.# ....# #####.# ##.# .##.# ### #####.#...#####... .#..####.#######.....<........... .##..............#..#####...f##.# .#######.#..####:|=%# #..f###.# .# ###### #@[/?# #..## #.# .## ##...## ##.#####.. .P# #.#..###........# .## #!#=.........##.. ## #.#####..##...... ### ####........######.P #####.####....##..##.## #.. #.............######..# ##.# #.####..###.#.## #..## #..# There are no monsters in sight! Vanquished Creatures Fannar (Lair:1) Harold (Lair:2) 4 hydras The ghost of Moogles the Bludgeoner, an experienced MiFi of Okawaru (D:8) Nergalle (Lair:1) 2 centaur warriors (D:13) Pikel (D:5) 4 hill giants An orc sorcerer (Orc:2) 8 orc knights A cyclops (D:11) 8 elephants (D:9) 3 black mambas An eye of devastation (D:13) 7 spiny frogs 2 komodo dragons Grinder (D:5) 2 two-headed ogres (D:9) 3 trolls A hydra skeleton (D:11) 6 blink frogs 2 griffon zombies A grizzly bear (Lair:2) A shadow (D:12) A dragon skeleton (D:13) 2 basilisks 2 wyverns A griffon skeleton (D:10) 3 toenail golems (Volcano) A trapdoor spider (Lair:5) 38 yaks An elephant slug (Lair:6) 6 hippogriffs A wraith (D:13) A deep elf fighter (D:9) 2 manticores (D:12) A hungry ghost (D:12) 2 hill giant skeletons A swamp worm (Lair:6) Menkaure (D:7) A necrophage (D:9) 3 porcupines 20 orc warriors A slave (D:5) A giant goldfish (Lair:6) A yellow wasp (D:13) 4 ice beasts 4 ogres A black bear (Lair:2) 4 humans (Volcano) 3 sky beasts A phantom (D:7) 3 centaurs 15 wargs 2 big kobolds 11 giant frogs 10 water moccasins A giant slug (Lair:4) 7 crocodiles A wyvern zombie (D:12) 4 agate snails 2 wyvern skeletons A cyclops skeleton (D:13) A troll zombie (D:12) 13 killer bees An electric eel (Lair:6) A troll skeleton (D:13) 3 goliath beetles 7 crimson imps 8 spiders (Lair:6) A gnoll shaman (D:5) A centaur zombie (D:7) 3 giant frog zombies 12 iguanas 9 hounds Crazy Yiuf (D:6) 9 orc priests A two-headed ogre zombie (D:8) 12 worker ants 27 orc wizards 6 big fish (Lair:6) 3 scorpions 19 sheep A crocodile zombie (D:8) Jessica (D:2) A big kobold zombie (D:11) 5 jellies 11 gnolls 64 green rats 19 adders A shadow imp (D:12) 5 giant centipedes 2 worms A scorpion zombie (D:7) An iguana zombie (D:7) 9 giant geckos An ooze (D:2) 115 orcs 27 bats 5 giant cockroaches 19 goblins 15 hobgoblins 20 jackals 28 kobolds 12 quokkas 4 ball pythons 2 giant newts A giant spore (D:9) A hobgoblin zombie (D:7) A jackal skeleton (D:6) 16 rats A bush (Lair:1) 3 fungi 4 plants 762 creatures vanquished. Vanquished Creatures (collateral kills) A human (Volcano) 1 creature vanquished. Vanquished Creatures (others) A rakshasa (D:12) A sixfirhy (D:12) A neqoxec (D:12) An ogre (D:5) A hound (D:5) A crimson imp (D:5) A lemure (D:12) 3 white imps (Volcano) 2 orcs (D:7) A giant cockroach (D:5) A human (Volcano) 14 creatures vanquished. Grand Total: 777 creatures vanquished Notes Turn | Place | Note -------------------------------------------------------------- 0 | D:1 | Delarado, the Deep Elf Fire Elementalist, began the quest for the Orb. 0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 1. HP: 10/10 MP: 4/4 178 | D:1 | Reached XP level 2. HP: 15/15 MP: 7/7 241 | D:1 | Learned a level 2 spell: Throw Flame 847 | D:2 | Noticed Jessica 851 | D:2 | Killed Jessica 851 | D:2 | Reached XP level 3. HP: 19/19 MP: 10/10 896 | D:2 | Reached skill level 4 in Fire Magic 1314 | D:2 | Reached XP level 4. HP: 24/24 MP: 3/13 1329 | D:2 | Learned a level 4 spell: Sticky Flame 2115 | D:3 | Reached XP level 5. HP: 4/28 MP: 12/16 3230 | D:4 | Reached skill level 5 in Fire Magic 3539 | D:4 | Reached XP level 6. HP: 12/32 MP: 20/20 3757 | D:4 | Found a sparkling altar of Nemelex Xobeh. 4166 | D:4 | Reached skill level 5 in Spellcasting 4171 | D:4 | Learned a level 3 spell: Conjure Flame 4192 | D:4 | Got an opalescent robe 4198 | D:4 | Identified the +1 robe "Eblefecs" {Dex-3 Int+4 Dam-6} (You found it on level 4 of the Dungeon) 4759 | D:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon 4810 | D:5 | Reached XP level 7. HP: 36/36 MP: 21/22 4872 | D:5 | Noticed Pikel 4905 | D:5 | Killed Pikel 4905 | D:5 | Reached skill level 7 in Spellcasting 4905 | D:5 | Reached skill level 5 in Conjurations 5101 | D:5 | Noticed Grinder 5104 | D:5 | Paralysed by Grinder for 3 turns 5186 | D:4 | Learned a level 5 spell: Fireball 5363 | D:5 | Reached XP level 8. HP: 41/41 MP: 25/25 5571 | D:5 | Killed Grinder 5897 | D:5 | Found a glowing silver altar of Zin. 5983 | D:6 | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha. 6236 | D:6 | Reached skill level 8 in Spellcasting 6417 | D:6 | Found a white marble altar of Elyvilon. 6634 | D:6 | Noticed Crazy Yiuf 6648 | D:6 | Killed Crazy Yiuf 6743 | D:7 | Noticed Menkaure 6744 | D:7 | Killed Menkaure 6744 | D:7 | Reached skill level 9 in Spellcasting 6753 | D:7 | Reached XP level 9. HP: 39/45 MP: 15/28 6977 | D:7 | Found Asuerita's Book Boutique. 7029 | D:7 | Got a tattered robe 7038 | D:7 | Identified the +2 robe of Chuwab {Str+4 Dex+1} (You found it on level 7 of the Dungeon) 7530 | D:7 | Found a shattered altar of Ashenzari. 7753 | D:7 | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple. 7781 | D:7 | Reached skill level 10 in Spellcasting 7905 | Temple | Entered the Ecumenical Temple 7948 | Temple | Became a worshipper of Vehumet 8010 | D:7 | Found a shimmering altar of Xom. 8037 | D:7 | Found a blossoming altar of Fedhas. 8044 | D:7 | Found a sparkling altar of Nemelex Xobeh. 8728 | D:7 | Noticed an orc knight 8732 | D:7 | Killed an orc knight 8896 | D:7 | Noticed an orc knight 8914 | D:7 | Killed an orc knight 8914 | D:7 | Reached skill level 11 in Spellcasting 8914 | D:7 | Reached XP level 10. HP: 31/50 MP: 7/31 9063 | D:7 | Acquired Vehumet's first power 9063 | D:7 | Offered knowledge of Sting by Vehumet. 9243 | D:7 | Noticed an orc knight 9247 | D:7 | Noticed an orc knight 9274 | D:7 | Killed an orc knight 9274 | D:7 | Reached skill level 10 in Fire Magic 9403 | D:7 | Noticed an orc knight 9408 | D:7 | Killed an orc knight 9721 | D:7 | Reached skill level 10 in Conjurations 10367 | D:8 | Found a shimmering altar of Xom. 10476 | D:8 | Reached skill level 12 in Spellcasting 10510 | D:8 | Identified a scroll of acquirement 10682 | D:8 | Noticed Moogles' ghost (experienced MiFi) 10749 | D:8 | Killed Moogles' ghost 10881 | D:8 | Offered knowledge of Magic Dart by Vehumet. 10884 | D:8 | Learned a level 1 spell: Magic Dart 11542 | D:9 | Found Celumol's Book Emporium. 11550 | D:9 | Bought a book of Wizardry for 450 gold pieces 11563 | D:9 | Noticed an elephant 11563 | D:9 | Noticed an elephant 11563 | D:9 | Noticed an elephant 11567 | D:9 | Noticed an elephant 11569 | D:9 | Killed an elephant 11569 | D:9 | Reached XP level 11. HP: 54/54 MP: 33/33 11583 | D:9 | Killed an elephant 11592 | D:9 | Killed an elephant 11599 | D:9 | Killed an elephant 11730 | D:9 | Noticed an elephant 11730 | D:9 | Noticed an elephant 11756 | D:9 | Killed an elephant 11874 | D:9 | Found a staircase to the Lair. 11886 | D:9 | Killed an elephant 11886 | D:9 | Reached skill level 13 in Spellcasting 11974 | Lair:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts 12301 | Lair:1 | Offered knowledge of Searing Ray by Vehumet. 12444 | Lair:1 | Acquired Vehumet's second power 12450 | Lair:1 | Noticed a six-headed hydra 12451 | Lair:1 | Killed a six-headed hydra 12452 | Lair:1 | Noticed Fannar 12608 | Lair:1 | Found a frozen archway. 12833 | Lair:1 | Noticed Nergalle 12837 | Lair:1 | Killed Nergalle 13058 | Lair:1 | Killed Fannar 13356 | Lair:1 | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging 13475 | Lair:1 | Paralysed by you for 5 turns 13680 | Lair:2 | Offered knowledge of Iskenderun's Mystic Blast by Vehumet. 13686 | Lair:2 | Learned a level 4 spell: Iskenderun's Mystic Blast 13699 | Lair:2 | Reached skill level 14 in Spellcasting 13836 | Lair:2 | Reached XP level 12. HP: 55/59 MP: 35/35 14135 | Lair:2 | Noticed Harold 14139 | Lair:2 | Killed Harold 14447 | Lair:2 | Acquired Vehumet's third power 14541 | Lair:2 | Learned a level 2 spell: Repel Missiles 14544 | Lair:2 | Learned a level 2 spell: Blink 15396 | Lair:3 | Learned a level 1 spell: Apportation 15399 | Lair:3 | Learned a level 2 spell: Call Imp 15533 | Lair:3 | Offered knowledge of Airstrike by Vehumet. 16048 | Lair:4 | Noticed a six-headed hydra 16050 | Lair:4 | Killed a six-headed hydra 16050 | Lair:4 | Reached skill level 15 in Spellcasting 16397 | Lair:5 | Offered knowledge of Olgreb's Toxic Radiance by Vehumet. 17306 | Lair:1 | Learned a level 6 spell: Haste 17825 | Lair:6 | Reached skill level 1 in Charms 17825 | Lair:6 | Reached XP level 13. HP: 55/63 MP: 24/37 17865 | Lair:6 | Found a dark tunnel. 17874 | Volcano | Entered a volcano 18523 | Lair:6 | Found a hole to the Spider Nest. 19097 | Lair:6 | Offered knowledge of Conjure Ball Lightning by Vehumet. 19134 | Lair:6 | Found a staircase to the Swamp. 19581 | D:9 | Noticed an elephant 19583 | D:9 | Killed an elephant 19708 | D:9 | Reached skill level 5 in Charms 19814 | D:9 | Noticed an elephant 19816 | D:9 | Killed an elephant 20229 | D:10 | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon 21377 | D:7 | Killed an orc knight 22429 | D:11 | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines. 22979 | D:11 | Reached skill level 10 in Charms 23140 | D:11 | Offered knowledge of Lightning Bolt by Vehumet. 24138 | D:12 | Identified Sif Muna's Catalogue of Protection and Feathers 24769 | Lair:1 | Upgraded the game from 0.13-a0-2641-gc68e7bd to 0.13-a0-2643-gffe6e9f 25173 | D:13 | Found a snail-covered altar of Cheibriados. 25501 | D:13 | Found a white marble altar of Elyvilon. 25518 | D:13 | Reached skill level 16 in Spellcasting 26477 | Orc:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Orcish Mines 26890 | Orc:2 | Offered knowledge of Bolt of Fire by Vehumet. 26919 | Orc:1 | Learned a level 6 spell: Bolt of Fire 27663 | Orc:1 | Found a flagged portal. 27674 | Bailey | Entered a bailey 27816 | Bailey | Gained mutation: You tend to lose your temper in combat. [mutagenic glow] 28254 | Orc:2 | Reached XP level 14. HP: 68/68 MP: 38/38 Action | 1- 3 | 4- 6 | 7- 9 | 10-12 | 13-15 || total -------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------++------- Melee: Short sword | | 8 | | | || 8 Unarmed | | | 12 | 3 | || 15 Staff | | | | 9 | || 9 Fire: Blowgun | | 68 | 4 | | || 72 Throw: Dagger | 31 | 1 | | | || 32 Stone | 27 | | | | || 27 Dart | 2 | | | | || 2 Spear | | 1 | | | || 1 Cast: Flame Tongue | 51 | 75 | 110 | 81 | 18 || 335 Throw Flame | 6 | 29 | 68 | 147 | 64 || 314 Sticky Flame | | 4 | 33 | 47 | 7 || 91 Conjure Flame | | 1 | 7 | 13 | || 21 Fireball | | | 16 | 199 | 272 || 487 Magic Dart | | | | 10 | || 10 Iskenderun's Myst | | | | 3 | 23 || 26 Call Imp | | | | 1 | 14 || 15 Haste | | | | | 14 || 14 Apportation | | | | | 1 || 1 Evoke: Wand | | | 5 | 6 | 10 || 21 Use: Scroll | | 13 | 2 | 14 | 11 || 40 Potion | | | | 2 | || 2

Thursday, 8th August 2013, 15:03 by Abominae

Berserkitis only comes into play when you are striking a monster in melee. Judging by your skills, you never do that (even though you probably should). Casting a spell or doing any other action will have no chance of making you berserk.

If you ever did want to hit stuff, you can also use an amulet of Clarity or Stasis to suppress involuntary berserk.

Thursday, 8th August 2013, 15:09 by delarado

Ok, I'll save my cure mutations for now then... It was my understanding that a deep elf had no business melee'ing anything ever?

Thursday, 8th August 2013, 15:33 by Amnesiac

Even with untrained staffs(but you should train them a bit for more effectiveness, especially bacause of a much faster attack speed) you can successfully kill popcorn with an enhancer staff (staff of fire for a FE) if you have high fire magic skill. Later you get evocations for channeling and the damage gets even better.

Thursday, 8th August 2013, 16:25 by ackack

delarado wrote:Ok, I'll save my cure mutations for now then... It was my understanding that a deep elf had no business melee'ing anything ever?

Code:: Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.12.2-7-g64ef654 (webtiles) character file. 1478471 ackack the Acrobat (level 27, 192/192 HPs) Began as a Deep Elf Skald on June 16, 2013. Was the Champion of Okawaru. Escaped with the Orb ... and 3 runes on June 21, 2013! The game lasted 1day 04:47:38 (101079 turns). ackack the Acrobat (Deep Elf Skald) Turns: 101079, Time: 1, 04:47:39 HP 192/192 AC 47 Str 9 XL: 27 MP 40/49 EV 46 Int 26 God: Okawaru [******] Gold 4456 SH 16 Dex 17 Spells: 18 memorised, 2 levels left Res.Fire : + . . See Invis. : . a - +8,+7 demon whip (pain) Res.Cold : + . . Warding : . B - +6 mottled dragon armour Life Prot.: + . . Conserve : . R - +3 dwarf buckler {AC+3} Res.Poison: + Res.Corr. : . I - +2 hat of the Alchemist {rElec rF+ rC+ MR} Res.Elec. : + Clarity : . O - +1 ratskin cloak {rPois rN+ Dex-1 Int-1} Sust.Abil.: . . Spirit.Shd : . k - +3 pair of gauntlets of War {Acc+5 Dam+5} Res.Mut. : + Stasis : . p - +2 pair of elf boots Res.Rott. : . Ctrl.Telep.: x j - amulet of resist mutation Saprovore : . . . Flight : . V - +6 ring of evasion s - ring of Robustness {AC+8} @: icy armour, phasing, very slightly contaminated, heroism, extremely resistant to hostile enchantments, unstealthy A: no striking features a: Heroism, Finesse, Renounce Religion }: 3/15 runes: barnacled, silver, gossamer You escaped. You worshipped Okawaru. Okawaru was exalted by your worship. You were not hungry. You visited 10 branches of the dungeon, and saw 68 of its levels. You visited the Abyss 1 time. You also visited: Labyrinth. You collected 8656 gold pieces. You spent 4220 gold pieces at shops. Inventory: Hand weapons a - a +8,+7 demon whip of pain (weapon) b - a +2 orcish blowgun Missiles w - 28 curare-tipped needles Armour k - the +3 pair of gauntlets of War (worn) {Acc+5 Dam+5} (You found it on level 5 of the Vaults) It affects your accuracy (+5). It affects your damage-dealing abilities (+5). p - a +2 pair of elven boots (worn) B - a +6 mottled dragon armour (worn) I - the +2 hat of the Alchemist (worn) {rElec rF+ rC+ MR} (You bought it in a shop on level 1 of the Shoals) It protects you from fire. It protects you from cold. It insulates you from electricity. It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments. O - the +1 ratskin cloak (worn) {rPois rN+ Dex-1 Int-1} (You acquired it on level 6 of the Lair of Beasts) It affects your intelligence (-1). It affects your dexterity (-1). It protects you from poison. It protects you from negative energy. R - a +3 dwarven buckler of protection (worn) Magical devices c - a wand of disintegration (10) f - a wand of heal wounds (5) {probably heal} y - a wand of digging (8) F - a wand of hasting (6) M - a wand of heal wounds (4) U - a wand of teleportation (4) Comestibles h - 2 bread rations r - 4 apples Scrolls E - a scroll of teleportation L - a scroll of silence Y - a scroll of blinking Jewellery e - an uncursed ring of teleport control j - an amulet of resist mutation (around neck) s - the ring of Robustness (left hand) {AC+8} (You found it on level 16 of the Dungeon) [ring of protection] It affects your AC (+8). u - an uncursed ring of protection from fire v - a +7,+3 ring of slaying x - the amulet of Cekugob {Ward -Tele Hunger rElec rPois rN+ AC+1 EV+1} (You found it on level 27 of the Dungeon) [amulet of warding] It affects your AC (+1). It affects your evasion (+1). It insulates you from electricity. It protects you from poison. It protects you from negative energy. It prevents most forms of teleportation. It speeds your metabolism. z - an uncursed ring of protection from magic G - an uncursed amulet of conservation H - an uncursed ring of see invisible N - an uncursed amulet of the gourmand S - an uncursed ring of protection from cold V - a +6 ring of evasion (right hand) X - an uncursed amulet of clarity Z - an uncursed amulet of stasis Potions d - 10 potions of heal wounds g - a potion of might l - 8 potions of brilliance q - 5 potions of curing t - 4 potions of agility J - 3 potions of restore abilities P - 3 potions of resistance Q - 4 potions of magic Orbs of Power i - the Orb of Zot Skills: - Level 24.0(27) Fighting Level 3.1(8.1) Short Blades Level 8.6(13.6) Long Blades - Level 12.0(17.0) Maces & Flails + Level 13.8(18.8) Armour - Level 24.1(27) Dodging - Level 1.9(6.9) Shields - Level 8.1(13.1) Traps - Level 22.2 Spellcasting - Level 16.0 Conjurations - Level 14.0 Charms - Level 13.1 Necromancy - Level 9.0 Translocations - Level 5.9 Ice Magic - Level 11.8 Air Magic - Level 12.5 Poison Magic You had 2 spell levels left. You knew the following spells: Your Spells Type Power Failure Level Hunger a - Shroud of Golubria Chrm/Tloc #######... 0% 2 None b - Swiftness Chrm/Air ########.. 0% 2 None c - Deflect Missiles Chrm/Air ########.. 1% 6 None d - Regeneration Chrm/Necr ########.. 0% 3 None e - Orb of Destruction Conj ########.. 1% 7 ####... f - Repel Missiles Chrm/Air ########.. 0% 2 None g - Lightning Bolt Conj/Air ########.. 1% 5 None h - Dispersal Tloc #######... 6% 6 None i - Poisonous Cloud Conj/Pois/Air ########.. 1% 6 None j - Haste Chrm ########. 1% 6 None k - Ozocubu's Armour Chrm/Ice #######... 1% 3 None l - Flight Chrm/Air ########.. 1% 3 None m - Phase Shift Tloc #######... 1% 5 None n - Abjuration Summ #####..... 4% 3 None o - Apportation Tloc #######... 1% 1 None p - Dispel Undead Necr ########. 1% 5 None M - Summon Butterflies Summ #####.... 1% 1 None O - Blink Tloc N/A 1% 2 None

Code:: Action | 1- 3 | 4- 6 | 7- 9 | 10-12 | 13-15 | 16-18 | 19-21 | 22-24 | 25-27 || total -------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------++------- Melee: Short sword | 97 | | | | | | | | || 97 Falchion | 2 | 71 | 3 | 716 | 1682 | | | | || 2474 Sabre | | | 21 | 78 | | | | | || 99 Unarmed | | | | | 9 | | | | || 9 Demon whip | | | | | 110 | 2057 | 2074 | 2564 | 4401 || 11206

Friday, 9th August 2013, 10:41 by delarado

delarado wrote:Ok, got one of those annoying levels, where the entire level is completely open, and all 3 stair cases are next to each other on the downstairs. There are four elephants and a hydra just waiting to kill me. Pretty much a carbon copy of my last death to an ettin.

If i go do something else for a while, will they disperse? How long is "a while"?

Turn count 19328 at the moment, If I go do orc:1 and 2, they will have wandered off when i return?

Came back at turn 30509 after doing orc:1,2,3 and 2 extra levels of D.

Nothing had moved, 7 headed hydra, two elephants, a hippogriff and a few hounds waiting for me down below, right next to the staircase.

I had already hasted on the floor above an a strategic blink meant I could kill everything with fireballs before I got into too much trouble.

Yay for fire!

Friday, 9th August 2013, 10:58 by Sandman25

ackack wrote:[Some crazy challenge build of DE of Oka without any conjuration spells]

I am not sure how it is related to this character. It's hard to be able to cast high level spells and have high Weapon/ Fighting/Armour/Dodging. Basically you have no time for the latter if you are going for Fire Storm ASAP.

Friday, 9th August 2013, 11:10 by delarado

Sandman25 wrote:
ackack wrote:[Some crazy challenge build of DE of Oka without any conjuration spells]

I am not sure how it is related to this character. It's hard to be able to cast high level spells and have high Weapon/ Fighting/Armour/Dodging. Basically you have no time for the latter if you are going for Fire Storm ASAP.

I think he was responding to my "deep elves have no business in melee" comment, just as a proof of concept.

While thats very impressive, I certainly shall not be trying to emulate that build (not for a while anyway!)

Friday, 9th August 2013, 11:56 by Galefury

Sandman25 wrote:
ackack wrote:[Some crazy challenge build of DE of Oka without any conjuration spells]

Sometimes I wonder if you can read. Probably you can, but choose not to.

Friday, 9th August 2013, 12:02 by Sandman25

Galefury wrote:
Sandman25 wrote:
ackack wrote:[Some crazy challenge build of DE of Oka without any conjuration spells]

Sometimes I wonder if you can read. Probably you can, but choose not to.

Yes, I can read but I am not sure you understand what "context" means. AC 7 and EV 17 is a little different thing than AC 47 and EV 46 (Armour 18 after Heroism boost).
I believe this DEFE should avoid melee as much as possible, it is not expected to melee non-popcorn.

Poisonous Cloud? No, that's not a conjuration for me. Lightning Bolt? Good luck using it on unexplored level

Friday, 9th August 2013, 12:32 by delarado

I take it I ignore the crap out of Roxanne?

The only way I can think of to deal with her is using iron shot (which means I have to use my 8 remaining spell levels and I get fire storm when I have 9 left) or using Iskenderuns... Neither of which to be honest I'm sure will kill her before she can Crystal spear me to death (That has the potential to one shot me)

Code:: Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.13-a0-2648-g56e3d78 (webtiles) character file. Delarado the Eclecticist (DEFE) Turns: 35704, Time: 04:22:14 HP 72/72 AC 7 Str 8 XL: 15 Next: 11% MP 52/54 EV 18 Int 24 God: Vehumet [*****.] Gold 2746 SH 0 Dex 15 Spells: 14 memorised, 8 levels left Res.Fire : + . . See Invis. : + c - staff of power Res.Cold : . . . Warding : + O - +2 elf robe {rC+} Life Prot.: + . . Conserve : . (no shield) Res.Poison: . Res.Corr. : . (no helmet) Res.Elec. : . Clarity : . h - +0 cloak Sust.Abil.: . . Spirit.Shd : . a - +0 pair of gloves Res.Mut. : . Stasis : . J - +0 pair of boots Res.Rott. : . Flight : . n - amulet of warding Saprovore : . . . e - ring of see invisible R - ring of fire @: delayed fireball, quite resistant to hostile enchantments, fairly stealthy A: berserk 1 a: Renounce Religion, Release Delayed Fireball You are on level 14 of the Dungeon. You worship Vehumet. Vehumet is exalted by your worship. You are not hungry. You have visited 4 branches of the dungeon, and seen 26 of its levels. You have also visited: Bailey and Volcano. You have collected 3176 gold pieces. You have spent 450 gold pieces at shops. Inventory: Armour a - a +0 pair of gloves (worn) h - a +0 cloak (worn) i - a +2 robe of fire resistance J - a +0 pair of boots (worn) O - a +2 elven robe of cold resistance (worn) Magical devices v - a wand of heal wounds {zapped: 1} P - a wand of digging {zapped: 3} Comestibles j - 4 grapes k - 4 meat rations r - a bread ration Scrolls p - a scroll of amnesia q - a scroll of magic mapping w - 2 scrolls labeled SMOPNA LENTU {tried on +0 elven robe, recharging} y - 3 scrolls of remove curse z - 2 scrolls of teleportation C - 4 scrolls of fog D - 3 scrolls of blinking L - 2 scrolls of fear Jewellery e - a ring of see invisible (right hand) n - an amulet of warding (around neck) o - an uncursed ring of sustain abilities B - an uncursed ring of magical power K - an uncursed ring of protection from cold R - a ring of fire (left hand) Potions b - a potion of agility d - 4 potions of curing f - 3 potions of heal wounds l - 2 potions of magic m - a potion of restore abilities s - 2 potions of speed M - 2 potions of brilliance U - a potion of resistance W - a potion of invisibility Magical staves c - an uncursed staff of power (weapon) Skills: - Level 2.2 Staves + Level 9.7 Dodging - Level 2.4 Stealth * Level 17.5 Spellcasting * Level 15.2 Conjurations + Level 11.0 Charms * Level 15.2 Fire Magic You have 8 spell levels left. You know the following spells: Your Spells Type Power Failure Level Hunger a - Flame Tongue Conj/Fire ##### 0% 1 None b - Throw Flame Conj/Fire ###### 0% 2 None c - Conjure Flame Conj/Fire #######. 0% 3 None d - Sticky Flame Conj/Fire #######. 1% 4 None e - Fireball Conj/Fire #######... 1% 5 None f - Magic Dart Conj #### 0% 1 None g - Iskenderun's Mystic Conj #######. 1% 4 None h - Repel Missiles Chrm/Air #####..... 1% 2 None i - Blink Tloc N/A 4% 2 None j - Apportation Tloc ###....... 2% 1 None k - Call Imp Summ ###....... 4% 2 None l - Haste Chrm ######.. 6% 6 ####... m - Bolt of Fire Conj/Fire #######... 1% 6 ####... n - Delayed Fireball Conj/Fire N/A 1% 7 #####.. Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations Branches: Dungeon (14/27) Temple (1/1) D:7 Orc (3/4) D:11 Elf (0/3) Orc:2 Orc:3 Lair (8/8) D:9 Swamp (0/5) Lair:6 Spider (0/5) Lair:6 Slime (0/6) Lair:8 Altars: Ashenzari Cheibriados Elyvilon Fedhas Kikubaaqudgha Makhleb Nemelex Xobeh Okawaru Sif Muna Trog Vehumet Xom Yredelemnul Zin the Shining One Shops: D:7: + D:9: + Orc:3: } Portals: Hell: Lair:8 Annotations D:12 exclusion: silver statue D:14 exclusion: Roxanne, Roxanne Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations You tend to lose your temper in combat. Message History r - Retreat! s - Stop attacking. w - Wait here. f - Follow me. Anything else - Stay silent. You shout for attention! You start waiting. Done waiting. The sky beast is too close now for your liking. Casting: Iskenderun's Mystic Blast Confirm with . or Enter, or press ? or * to list all spells. Aiming: Fireball Press: ? - help, Shift-Dir - straight line, f - sky beast Aim: a sky beast (hasn't noticed you) You feel a surge of power! The fireball explodes! The fireball engulfs the sky beast. You kill the sky beast! Vehumet accepts your kill. Found a stone staircase leading down. Okay, then. Char dumped successfully. Saving game... please wait. ...# ####.....# ..## ##....# ..# ##...# ### ###...# .# #.....# .# ##.....# .# ##....### .# ###....># .# #.@...### ## ##.....# # ###....### #......# #....### #...## #..........# ..........# ###...#..?.. There are no monsters in sight! Vanquished Creatures An orc warlord (Orc:3) A dire elephant (Lair:8) Fannar (Lair:1) Harold (Lair:2) 6 hydras Nessos (Orc:3) The ghost of Moogles the Bludgeoner, an experienced MiFi of Okawaru (D:8) 5 death yaks (Lair:8) A sun demon (Lair:8) Nergalle (Lair:1) 2 centaur warriors (D:13) An unseen horror (D:14) A wizard (Lair:8) Pikel (D:5) 6 hill giants A shining eye (shapeshifter) (D:13) 2 orc sorcerers 3 griffons 8 orc knights A cyclops (D:11) 21 elephants 4 black mambas An eye of devastation (D:13) An orange demon (Lair:8) 11 spiny frogs 2 fire drakes (Lair:8) A smoke demon (Lair:8) 3 komodo dragons 8 hellwings (Lair:8) A red devil (Lair:8) Grinder (D:5) 2 two-headed ogres (D:9) 5 trolls A hydra skeleton (D:11) 11 blink frogs 2 griffon zombies A grizzly bear (Lair:2) A shadow (D:12) A dragon skeleton (D:13) 4 basilisks 6 ugly things (D:14) 3 wyverns A griffon skeleton (D:10) 3 toenail golems (Volcano) 2 trapdoor spiders 50 yaks 5 wolves (Lair:7) An elephant slug (Lair:6) 11 hippogriffs A wraith (D:13) A deep elf fighter (D:9) 2 manticores (D:12) A hungry ghost (D:12) 2 hill giant skeletons A swamp worm (Lair:6) A mottled dragon (D:14) Menkaure (D:7) A necrophage (D:9) 4 porcupines 28 orc warriors A slave (D:5) A giant goldfish (Lair:6) A yellow wasp (D:13) 4 ice beasts 9 ogres A black bear (Lair:2) 4 humans (Volcano) 4 sky beasts A phantom (D:7) 3 centaurs 18 wargs 2 big kobolds 13 giant frogs A rotting devil (Lair:8) 14 water moccasins 3 giant slugs 10 crocodiles A wyvern zombie (D:12) 7 agate snails 2 wyvern skeletons A cyclops skeleton (D:13) A troll zombie (D:12) 13 killer bees An electric eel (Lair:6) 2 troll skeletons 3 goliath beetles 2 jellyfish (Lair:7) 2 pulsating lumps (Lair:8) 8 crimson imps 8 spiders (Lair:6) A gnoll shaman (D:5) A centaur zombie (D:7) 3 giant frog zombies 13 iguanas 11 hounds Crazy Yiuf (D:6) 17 orc priests A two-headed ogre zombie (D:8) A water moccasin skeleton (Lair:8) 13 worker ants 35 orc wizards 7 big fish 3 scorpions 19 sheep A crocodile zombie (D:8) Jessica (D:2) A big kobold zombie (D:11) 6 jellies 11 gnolls 69 green rats 24 adders A shadow imp (D:12) 5 giant centipedes 2 worms A scorpion zombie (D:7) An iguana zombie (D:7) 9 giant geckos An ooze (D:2) 177 orcs 35 bats 5 giant cockroaches 23 goblins 19 hobgoblins 20 jackals 28 kobolds 12 quokkas 4 ball pythons 2 giant newts A giant spore (D:9) A hobgoblin zombie (D:7) A jackal skeleton (D:6) 17 rats A bush (Lair:1) 9 fungi 10 plants 1017 creatures vanquished. Vanquished Creatures (collateral kills) A human (Volcano) A komodo dragon (Lair:7) A jellyfish (Lair:7) 4 big fish (Lair:7) 7 creatures vanquished. Vanquished Creatures (others) A rakshasa (D:12) A sixfirhy (D:12) A neqoxec (D:12) An ogre (D:5) A hound (D:5) 3 crimson imps A lemure (D:12) 4 white imps 2 orcs (D:7) A giant cockroach (D:5) A human (Volcano) 3 fungi 4 plants (Lair:8) 24 creatures vanquished. Grand Total: 1048 creatures vanquished Notes Turn | Place | Note -------------------------------------------------------------- 0 | D:1 | Delarado, the Deep Elf Fire Elementalist, began the quest for the Orb. 0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 1. HP: 10/10 MP: 4/4 178 | D:1 | Reached XP level 2. HP: 15/15 MP: 7/7 241 | D:1 | Learned a level 2 spell: Throw Flame 847 | D:2 | Noticed Jessica 851 | D:2 | Killed Jessica 851 | D:2 | Reached XP level 3. HP: 19/19 MP: 10/10 896 | D:2 | Reached skill level 4 in Fire Magic 1314 | D:2 | Reached XP level 4. HP: 24/24 MP: 3/13 1329 | D:2 | Learned a level 4 spell: Sticky Flame 2115 | D:3 | Reached XP level 5. HP: 4/28 MP: 12/16 3230 | D:4 | Reached skill level 5 in Fire Magic 3539 | D:4 | Reached XP level 6. HP: 12/32 MP: 20/20 3757 | D:4 | Found a sparkling altar of Nemelex Xobeh. 4166 | D:4 | Reached skill level 5 in Spellcasting 4171 | D:4 | Learned a level 3 spell: Conjure Flame 4192 | D:4 | Got an opalescent robe 4198 | D:4 | Identified the +1 robe "Eblefecs" {Dex-3 Int+4 Dam-6} (You found it on level 4 of the Dungeon) 4759 | D:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon 4810 | D:5 | Reached XP level 7. HP: 36/36 MP: 21/22 4872 | D:5 | Noticed Pikel 4905 | D:5 | Killed Pikel 4905 | D:5 | Reached skill level 7 in Spellcasting 4905 | D:5 | Reached skill level 5 in Conjurations 5101 | D:5 | Noticed Grinder 5104 | D:5 | Paralysed by Grinder for 3 turns 5186 | D:4 | Learned a level 5 spell: Fireball 5363 | D:5 | Reached XP level 8. HP: 41/41 MP: 25/25 5571 | D:5 | Killed Grinder 5897 | D:5 | Found a glowing silver altar of Zin. 5983 | D:6 | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha. 6236 | D:6 | Reached skill level 8 in Spellcasting 6417 | D:6 | Found a white marble altar of Elyvilon. 6634 | D:6 | Noticed Crazy Yiuf 6648 | D:6 | Killed Crazy Yiuf 6743 | D:7 | Noticed Menkaure 6744 | D:7 | Killed Menkaure 6744 | D:7 | Reached skill level 9 in Spellcasting 6753 | D:7 | Reached XP level 9. HP: 39/45 MP: 15/28 6977 | D:7 | Found Asuerita's Book Boutique. 7029 | D:7 | Got a tattered robe 7038 | D:7 | Identified the +2 robe of Chuwab {Str+4 Dex+1} (You found it on level 7 of the Dungeon) 7530 | D:7 | Found a shattered altar of Ashenzari. 7753 | D:7 | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple. 7781 | D:7 | Reached skill level 10 in Spellcasting 7905 | Temple | Entered the Ecumenical Temple 7948 | Temple | Became a worshipper of Vehumet 8010 | D:7 | Found a shimmering altar of Xom. 8037 | D:7 | Found a blossoming altar of Fedhas. 8044 | D:7 | Found a sparkling altar of Nemelex Xobeh. 8728 | D:7 | Noticed an orc knight 8732 | D:7 | Killed an orc knight 8896 | D:7 | Noticed an orc knight 8914 | D:7 | Killed an orc knight 8914 | D:7 | Reached skill level 11 in Spellcasting 8914 | D:7 | Reached XP level 10. HP: 31/50 MP: 7/31 9063 | D:7 | Acquired Vehumet's first power 9063 | D:7 | Offered knowledge of Sting by Vehumet. 9243 | D:7 | Noticed an orc knight 9247 | D:7 | Noticed an orc knight 9274 | D:7 | Killed an orc knight 9274 | D:7 | Reached skill level 10 in Fire Magic 9403 | D:7 | Noticed an orc knight 9408 | D:7 | Killed an orc knight 9721 | D:7 | Reached skill level 10 in Conjurations 10367 | D:8 | Found a shimmering altar of Xom. 10476 | D:8 | Reached skill level 12 in Spellcasting 10510 | D:8 | Identified a scroll of acquirement 10682 | D:8 | Noticed Moogles' ghost (experienced MiFi) 10749 | D:8 | Killed Moogles' ghost 10881 | D:8 | Offered knowledge of Magic Dart by Vehumet. 10884 | D:8 | Learned a level 1 spell: Magic Dart 11542 | D:9 | Found Celumol's Book Emporium. 11550 | D:9 | Bought a book of Wizardry for 450 gold pieces 11563 | D:9 | Noticed an elephant 11563 | D:9 | Noticed an elephant 11563 | D:9 | Noticed an elephant 11567 | D:9 | Noticed an elephant 11569 | D:9 | Killed an elephant 11569 | D:9 | Reached XP level 11. HP: 54/54 MP: 33/33 11583 | D:9 | Killed an elephant 11592 | D:9 | Killed an elephant 11599 | D:9 | Killed an elephant 11730 | D:9 | Noticed an elephant 11730 | D:9 | Noticed an elephant 11756 | D:9 | Killed an elephant 11874 | D:9 | Found a staircase to the Lair. 11886 | D:9 | Killed an elephant 11886 | D:9 | Reached skill level 13 in Spellcasting 11974 | Lair:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts 12301 | Lair:1 | Offered knowledge of Searing Ray by Vehumet. 12444 | Lair:1 | Acquired Vehumet's second power 12450 | Lair:1 | Noticed a six-headed hydra 12451 | Lair:1 | Killed a six-headed hydra 12452 | Lair:1 | Noticed Fannar 12608 | Lair:1 | Found a frozen archway. 12833 | Lair:1 | Noticed Nergalle 12837 | Lair:1 | Killed Nergalle 13058 | Lair:1 | Killed Fannar 13356 | Lair:1 | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging 13475 | Lair:1 | Paralysed by you for 5 turns 13680 | Lair:2 | Offered knowledge of Iskenderun's Mystic Blast by Vehumet. 13686 | Lair:2 | Learned a level 4 spell: Iskenderun's Mystic Blast 13699 | Lair:2 | Reached skill level 14 in Spellcasting 13836 | Lair:2 | Reached XP level 12. HP: 55/59 MP: 35/35 14135 | Lair:2 | Noticed Harold 14139 | Lair:2 | Killed Harold 14447 | Lair:2 | Acquired Vehumet's third power 14541 | Lair:2 | Learned a level 2 spell: Repel Missiles 14544 | Lair:2 | Learned a level 2 spell: Blink 15396 | Lair:3 | Learned a level 1 spell: Apportation 15399 | Lair:3 | Learned a level 2 spell: Call Imp 15533 | Lair:3 | Offered knowledge of Airstrike by Vehumet. 16048 | Lair:4 | Noticed a six-headed hydra 16050 | Lair:4 | Killed a six-headed hydra 16050 | Lair:4 | Reached skill level 15 in Spellcasting 16397 | Lair:5 | Offered knowledge of Olgreb's Toxic Radiance by Vehumet. 17306 | Lair:1 | Learned a level 6 spell: Haste 17825 | Lair:6 | Reached skill level 1 in Charms 17825 | Lair:6 | Reached XP level 13. HP: 55/63 MP: 24/37 17865 | Lair:6 | Found a dark tunnel. 17874 | Volcano | Entered a volcano 18523 | Lair:6 | Found a hole to the Spider Nest. 19097 | Lair:6 | Offered knowledge of Conjure Ball Lightning by Vehumet. 19134 | Lair:6 | Found a staircase to the Swamp. 19581 | D:9 | Noticed an elephant 19583 | D:9 | Killed an elephant 19708 | D:9 | Reached skill level 5 in Charms 19814 | D:9 | Noticed an elephant 19816 | D:9 | Killed an elephant 20229 | D:10 | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon 21377 | D:7 | Killed an orc knight 22429 | D:11 | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines. 22979 | D:11 | Reached skill level 10 in Charms 23140 | D:11 | Offered knowledge of Lightning Bolt by Vehumet. 24138 | D:12 | Identified Sif Muna's Catalogue of Protection and Feathers 24769 | Lair:1 | Upgraded the game from 0.13-a0-2641-gc68e7bd to 0.13-a0-2643-gffe6e9f 25173 | D:13 | Found a snail-covered altar of Cheibriados. 25501 | D:13 | Found a white marble altar of Elyvilon. 25518 | D:13 | Reached skill level 16 in Spellcasting 26477 | Orc:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Orcish Mines 26890 | Orc:2 | Offered knowledge of Bolt of Fire by Vehumet. 26919 | Orc:1 | Learned a level 6 spell: Bolt of Fire 27663 | Orc:1 | Found a flagged portal. 27674 | Bailey | Entered a bailey 27816 | Bailey | Gained mutation: You tend to lose your temper in combat. [mutagenic glow] 28254 | Orc:2 | Reached XP level 14. HP: 68/68 MP: 38/38 29083 | Orc:3 | Found a staircase to the Elven Halls. 29083 | Orc:3 | Noticed an orc warlord 29212 | Orc:3 | Found Xoqed's Gadget Emporium. 29213 | Orc:3 | Offered knowledge of Poison Arrow by Vehumet. 29217 | Orc:3 | Noticed Nessos 29220 | Orc:3 | Killed Nessos 29624 | Orc:3 | Killed an orc warlord 30270 | Orc:3 | Upgraded the game from 0.13-a0-2643-gffe6e9f to 0.13-a0-2648-g56e3d78 30628 | Lair:7 | Reached skill level 1 in Staves 31594 | Lair:7 | Offered knowledge of Delayed Fireball by Vehumet. 32141 | Lair:1 | Learned a level 7 spell: Delayed Fireball 32293 | Lair:8 | Entered Level 8 of the Lair of Beasts 32638 | Lair:8 | Found a staircase to the Slime Pits. 32786 | Lair:8 | Reached skill level 17 in Spellcasting 33369 | Lair:8 | Reached skill level 15 in Conjurations 33915 | Lair:8 | Found a burning altar of Makhleb. 34432 | Lair:8 | Reached skill level 15 in Fire Magic 34456 | Lair:8 | Found a gateway to Hell. 34469 | Lair:8 | Got a pair of dazzling gloves 34534 | Lair:8 | Reached XP level 15. HP: 72/72 MP: 29/39 34680 | Lair:1 | Identified the +1 pair of gloves "Gheho" {Str+1 Int-4} (You found it on level 8 of the Lair of Beasts) 34813 | D:13 | Offered knowledge of Iron Shot by Vehumet. 34854 | D:14 | Entered Level 14 of the Dungeon 34952 | D:14 | Noticed Roxanne Action | 1- 3 | 4- 6 | 7- 9 | 10-12 | 13-15 || total -------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------++------- Melee: Short sword | | 8 | | | || 8 Unarmed | | | 12 | 3 | || 15 Staff | | | | 9 | 2 || 11 Fire: Blowgun | | 68 | 4 | | || 72 Throw: Dagger | 31 | 1 | | | || 32 Stone | 27 | | | | || 27 Dart | 2 | | | | || 2 Spear | | 1 | | | || 1 Cast: Flame Tongue | 51 | 75 | 110 | 81 | 36 || 353 Throw Flame | 6 | 29 | 68 | 147 | 84 || 334 Sticky Flame | | 4 | 33 | 47 | 32 || 116 Conjure Flame | | 1 | 7 | 13 | || 21 Fireball | | | 16 | 199 | 528 || 743 Magic Dart | | | | 10 | || 10 Iskenderun's Myst | | | | 3 | 40 || 43 Call Imp | | | | 1 | 25 || 26 Haste | | | | | 34 || 34 Apportation | | | | | 1 || 1 Repel Missiles | | | | | 2 || 2 Delayed Fireball | | | | | 3 || 3 Blink | | | | | 1 || 1 Abil: Release Delayed F | | | | | 2 || 2 Evoke: Wand | | | 5 | 6 | 10 || 21 Use: Scroll | | 13 | 2 | 14 | 16 || 45 Potion | | | | 2 | 1 || 3

Friday, 9th August 2013, 12:38 by Galefury

Yes, ignore Roxanne.

You should train fighting for a while to get some HP, maybe roughly to level 8 for now. Just turn off all other skills for a while. Low skill levels are incredibly cheap, and in the case of fighting they are just as useful as the higher ones. You can also get even more fighting and dodging, and get some skill in a weapon of your choice (staff of fire would be nice, but you don't have one), you seem pretty much set in the spell department. Maybe pick up Poison Arrow or Iron Shot if you can. If you get Fire Storm you can train Fire and Conjurations more, but I'd stop doing that for now. Spellpower is good, but other things are probably more helpful currently.

Friday, 9th August 2013, 12:44 by Sandman25

I would use one recharge scroll on the healing wand and would drop another in a corner. Next ID scroll would be targeted at the wand.
I think it is not a good idea to train Charms along with Conf/Fire.

Friday, 9th August 2013, 12:46 by delarado

Why? To Identify charges?

I have like 5 potions of heal wounds, is it necessary to burn up ID scrolls?

I'm training charms to try and reduce the hunger cost of haste, is that a bad tactic?

Friday, 9th August 2013, 12:50 by Sandman25

delarado wrote:Why? To Identify charges?

I have like 5 potions of heal wounds, is it necessary to burn up ID scrolls?

I'm training charms to try and reduce the hunger cost of haste, is that a bad tactic?

Yes, I like to know exactly how many charges I have. But it can wait if you are going to train Evocations any way. It is possible that the wand is empty now and it can be dangerous if you learn it in a fight.

Magic schools don't affect spell hunger. Only Int and Spellcasting do.

Friday, 9th August 2013, 12:52 by Galefury

Spell school skills do nothing at all for hunger. They affect only success rate and spell power. The spellcasting skill and your intelligence reduce spell hunger. This is usually not that important, though. Convenient, but not usually relevant for winning if you know what you're doing.

Friday, 9th August 2013, 13:00 by delarado

oh wow ok thanks, Ill cancel training the charms immediately, I thought that'd reduce my hunger cost!

I'm tending to haste myself any time i go down a floor now and its making me pretty hungry!

I have plenty of food but even still...

Friday, 9th August 2013, 13:05 by Sandman25

delarado wrote:oh wow ok thanks, Ill cancel training the charms immediately, I thought that'd reduce my hunger cost!

I'm tending to haste myself any time i go down a floor now and its making me pretty hungry!

I have plenty of food but even still...

There is a hidden hunger cost related to Haste.

Code:: 1. Base hunger rate is 3, always at least 1. Fast metabolism increases hunger by 1 per level of the mutation, slow metabolism 1 or 2 decreases by 1, slow metabolism 3 decreases by 2. Trolls have hunger rate increased by 3 in addition for a base hunger of 9. For comparison, a chunk gives 1000 nutrition 2. Other effects: haste +5, invisibility +5, regen spell +4, regen ring +3, hunger ring +4, sustenance ring -40%, troll leather armour +1.5, Cheibriados -1, Hunger+ on an artefact +1. Regeneration effects and items only increase hunger rate while you are injured.

Friday, 9th August 2013, 13:06 by delarado

I also have a potion of experience, should I save this for later in the game when itll net me more experience?

Friday, 9th August 2013, 13:07 by Sandman25

delarado wrote:I also have a potion of experience, should I save this for later in the game when itll net me more experience?

Quaff it as soon as possible unless you are really close to a new XL.

Friday, 9th August 2013, 14:51 by delarado

Wow, I'm really starting to enjoy this game

I've put some XP into other stuff as mentioned. However, I've just seen Mara, and I'm really scared!

Code:: Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.13-a0-2648-g56e3d78 (webtiles) character file. Delarado the Eclecticist (DEFE) Turns: 40680, Time: 04:53:28 HP 87/87 AC 7 Str 8 XL: 16 Next: 72% MP 34/56 EV 18 Int 25 God: Vehumet [******] Gold 3040 SH 0 Dex 15 Spells: 15 memorised, 2 levels left Res.Fire : + . . See Invis. : + c - staff of power Res.Cold : . . . Warding : + O - +2 elf robe {rC+} Life Prot.: + . . Conserve : . (no shield) Res.Poison: . Res.Corr. : . (no helmet) Res.Elec. : . Clarity : . h - +0 cloak Sust.Abil.: . . Spirit.Shd : . a - +0 pair of gloves Res.Mut. : . Stasis : . J - +0 pair of boots Res.Rott. : . Flight : . n - amulet of warding Saprovore : . . . e - ring of see invisible R - ring of fire @: delayed fireball, quite resistant to hostile enchantments, fairly stealthy A: berserk 1 a: Renounce Religion, Release Delayed Fireball You are on level 18 of the Dungeon. You worship Vehumet. Vehumet is exalted by your worship. You are not hungry. You have visited 4 branches of the dungeon, and seen 30 of its levels. You have also visited: Bailey and Volcano. You have collected 3470 gold pieces. You have spent 450 gold pieces at shops. Inventory: Armour a - a +0 pair of gloves (worn) h - a +0 cloak (worn) i - a +2 robe of fire resistance J - a +0 pair of boots (worn) O - a +2 elven robe of cold resistance (worn) Magical devices v - a wand of heal wounds {zapped: 1} P - a wand of digging {zapped: 3} Comestibles k - 3 meat rations Scrolls g - 2 scrolls labeled NOPSAO SKEIT p - a scroll of amnesia q - 2 scrolls of magic mapping r - 3 scrolls of identify u - 2 scrolls of enchant weapon I w - 2 scrolls labeled SMOPNA LENTU {tried on +0 elven robe, recharging} y - 5 scrolls of remove curse z - 4 scrolls of teleportation C - 5 scrolls of fog D - 3 scrolls of blinking L - 2 scrolls of fear Jewellery e - a ring of see invisible (right hand) n - an amulet of warding (around neck) o - an uncursed ring of sustain abilities t - an uncursed ring of teleport control B - an uncursed ring of magical power K - an uncursed ring of protection from cold R - a ring of fire (left hand) Potions b - 2 potions of agility d - 5 potions of curing f - 7 potions of heal wounds l - 2 potions of magic m - a potion of restore abilities s - 2 potions of speed A - a potion of berserk rage M - 2 potions of brilliance U - a potion of resistance W - a potion of invisibility Magical staves c - an uncursed staff of power (weapon) Miscellaneous j - a crystal ball of energy x - a box of beasts Skills: * Level 6.9 Fighting - Level 2.2 Staves - Level 10.0 Dodging - Level 2.4 Stealth + Level 18.9 Spellcasting - Level 15.2 Conjurations - Level 11.0 Charms - Level 15.2 Fire Magic + Level 5.1 Evocations You have 2 spell levels left. You know the following spells: Your Spells Type Power Failure Level Hunger a - Flame Tongue Conj/Fire ##### 0% 1 None b - Throw Flame Conj/Fire ###### 0% 2 None c - Conjure Flame Conj/Fire ######## 0% 3 None d - Sticky Flame Conj/Fire ######## 1% 4 None e - Fireball Conj/Fire ########.. 1% 5 None f - Magic Dart Conj #### 0% 1 None g - Iskenderun's Mystic Conj #######. 1% 4 None h - Repel Missiles Chrm/Air ######.... 1% 2 None i - Blink Tloc N/A 3% 2 None j - Apportation Tloc ###....... 1% 1 None k - Call Imp Summ ###....... 3% 2 None l - Haste Chrm ######.. 3% 6 ###.... m - Bolt of Fire Conj/Fire ########.. 1% 6 ###.... n - Delayed Fireball Conj/Fire N/A 1% 7 #####.. o - Fire Storm Conj/Fire ########.. 83% 9 ####### Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations Branches: Dungeon (18/27) Temple (1/1) D:7 Orc (3/4) D:11 Elf (0/3) Orc:2 Orc:3 Lair (8/8) D:9 Swamp (0/5) Lair:6 Spider (0/5) Lair:6 Slime (0/6) Lair:8 Vaults (0/5) D:16 Altars: Ashenzari Cheibriados Elyvilon Fedhas Kikubaaqudgha Makhleb Nemelex Xobeh Okawaru Sif Muna Trog Vehumet Xom Yredelemnul Zin the Shining One Shops: D:7: + D:9: + Orc:3: } Portals: Hell: Lair:8 Annotations D:12 exclusion: silver statue D:14 exclusion: Roxanne, Roxanne D:18 Mara Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations You tend to lose your temper in combat. Message History Confirm with . or Enter, or press ? or * to list all spells. Aiming: Fireball Press: ? - help, Shift-Dir - straight line, f/p - stone giant skeleton Aim: a stone giant skeleton You feel a surge of power! The fireball explodes! The fireball engulfs the stone giant skeleton. Casting: Fireball Confirm with . or Enter, or press ? or * to list all spells. Aiming: Fireball Press: ? - help, Shift-Dir - straight line, f/p - stone giant skeleton Aim: a stone giant skeleton You feel a surge of power! The fireball explodes! The fireball engulfs the stone giant skeleton. You destroy the stone giant skeleton! Vehumet accepts your kill. You feel your power returning. You start resting. Mara comes into view. He is wielding a runed demon whip. Char dumped successfully. 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Vanquished Creatures An orc warlord (Orc:3) A dire elephant (Lair:8) Snorg (D:17) Fannar (Lair:1) Harold (Lair:2) 8 hydras Nessos (Orc:3) The ghost of Moogles the Bludgeoner, an experienced MiFi of Okawaru (D:8) 5 death yaks (Lair:8) Urug (D:16) A sun demon (Lair:8) Nergalle (Lair:1) 7 centaur warriors 6 unseen horrors A wizard (Lair:8) A giant amoeba (D:16) Pikel (D:5) 9 hill giants A shining eye (shapeshifter) (D:13) 2 orc sorcerers 3 griffons A red wasp (D:17) 9 orc knights A stone giant skeleton (D:18) 4 cyclopes 21 elephants 4 black mambas An eye of devastation (D:13) An orange demon (Lair:8) 11 spiny frogs 2 fire drakes (Lair:8) A smoke demon (Lair:8) 3 yaktaurs 4 komodo dragons 8 hellwings (Lair:8) A red devil (Lair:8) Grinder (D:5) 2 two-headed ogres (D:9) 5 trolls A hydra skeleton (D:11) 11 blink frogs 18 slime creatures 2 griffon zombies A grizzly bear (Lair:2) 3 shadows A dragon skeleton (D:13) 4 basilisks 33 ugly things 3 wyverns A griffon skeleton (D:10) 3 toenail golems (Volcano) 2 trapdoor spiders 60 yaks 5 wolves (Lair:7) An elephant slug (Lair:6) 12 hippogriffs A wraith (D:13) A deep elf fighter (D:9) 3 manticores 3 hungry ghosts 3 hill giant skeletons A swamp worm (Lair:6) 2 mottled dragons Menkaure (D:7) A necrophage (D:9) 13 vampire mosquitoes 4 porcupines 30 orc warriors A slave (D:5) A giant goldfish (Lair:6) A yellow wasp (D:13) 4 ice beasts 9 ogres A black bear (Lair:2) 4 humans (Volcano) 4 sky beasts A phantom (D:7) 8 centaurs A brain worm (D:17) 18 wargs 4 big kobolds 18 giant frogs A rotting devil (Lair:8) 14 water moccasins 6 giant slugs 11 crocodiles A giant slug zombie (D:16) A wyvern zombie (D:12) 7 agate snails 2 wyvern skeletons A cyclops skeleton (D:13) A boulder beetle zombie (D:17) A troll zombie (D:12) A yak zombie (D:15) 13 killer bees An electric eel (Lair:6) 2 troll skeletons 5 goliath beetles 2 jellyfish (Lair:7) 2 pulsating lumps (Lair:8) 13 crimson imps 8 spiders (Lair:6) A gnoll shaman (D:5) A centaur zombie (D:7) 3 giant frog zombies 13 iguanas 11 hounds Crazy Yiuf (D:6) 17 orc priests A shapeshifter simulacrum (D:16) A two-headed ogre zombie (D:8) A water moccasin skeleton (Lair:8) 13 worker ants 36 orc wizards 7 big fish 3 scorpions 21 sheep A brain worm zombie (D:16) A crocodile zombie (D:8) Jessica (D:2) A big kobold zombie (D:11) 6 jellies A big kobold skeleton (D:15) 11 gnolls 69 green rats 24 adders A shadow imp (D:12) 6 giant centipedes 2 worms A scorpion zombie (D:7) An iguana zombie (D:7) 9 giant geckos An ooze (D:2) 178 orcs 35 bats 5 giant cockroaches 23 goblins 19 hobgoblins 20 jackals 32 kobolds 12 quokkas 4 ball pythons 2 giant newts A giant spore (D:9) A hobgoblin zombie (D:7) A jackal skeleton (D:6) 17 rats A bush (Lair:1) 9 fungi 10 plants 1162 creatures vanquished. Vanquished Creatures (collateral kills) A human (Volcano) A komodo dragon (Lair:7) A jellyfish (Lair:7) 4 big fish (Lair:7) 7 creatures vanquished. Vanquished Creatures (others) A rakshasa (D:12) A sixfirhy (D:12) A neqoxec (D:12) An ogre (D:5) A hound (D:5) 3 crimson imps A lemure (D:12) 4 white imps 2 orcs (D:7) A giant cockroach (D:5) A human (Volcano) 3 fungi 4 plants (Lair:8) 24 creatures vanquished. Grand Total: 1193 creatures vanquished Notes Turn | Place | Note -------------------------------------------------------------- 0 | D:1 | Delarado, the Deep Elf Fire Elementalist, began the quest for the Orb. 0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 1. HP: 10/10 MP: 4/4 178 | D:1 | Reached XP level 2. HP: 15/15 MP: 7/7 241 | D:1 | Learned a level 2 spell: Throw Flame 847 | D:2 | Noticed Jessica 851 | D:2 | Killed Jessica 851 | D:2 | Reached XP level 3. HP: 19/19 MP: 10/10 896 | D:2 | Reached skill level 4 in Fire Magic 1314 | D:2 | Reached XP level 4. HP: 24/24 MP: 3/13 1329 | D:2 | Learned a level 4 spell: Sticky Flame 2115 | D:3 | Reached XP level 5. HP: 4/28 MP: 12/16 3230 | D:4 | Reached skill level 5 in Fire Magic 3539 | D:4 | Reached XP level 6. HP: 12/32 MP: 20/20 3757 | D:4 | Found a sparkling altar of Nemelex Xobeh. 4166 | D:4 | Reached skill level 5 in Spellcasting 4171 | D:4 | Learned a level 3 spell: Conjure Flame 4192 | D:4 | Got an opalescent robe 4198 | D:4 | Identified the +1 robe "Eblefecs" {Dex-3 Int+4 Dam-6} (You found it on level 4 of the Dungeon) 4759 | D:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon 4810 | D:5 | Reached XP level 7. HP: 36/36 MP: 21/22 4872 | D:5 | Noticed Pikel 4905 | D:5 | Killed Pikel 4905 | D:5 | Reached skill level 7 in Spellcasting 4905 | D:5 | Reached skill level 5 in Conjurations 5101 | D:5 | Noticed Grinder 5104 | D:5 | Paralysed by Grinder for 3 turns 5186 | D:4 | Learned a level 5 spell: Fireball 5363 | D:5 | Reached XP level 8. HP: 41/41 MP: 25/25 5571 | D:5 | Killed Grinder 5897 | D:5 | Found a glowing silver altar of Zin. 5983 | D:6 | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha. 6236 | D:6 | Reached skill level 8 in Spellcasting 6417 | D:6 | Found a white marble altar of Elyvilon. 6634 | D:6 | Noticed Crazy Yiuf 6648 | D:6 | Killed Crazy Yiuf 6743 | D:7 | Noticed Menkaure 6744 | D:7 | Killed Menkaure 6744 | D:7 | Reached skill level 9 in Spellcasting 6753 | D:7 | Reached XP level 9. HP: 39/45 MP: 15/28 6977 | D:7 | Found Asuerita's Book Boutique. 7029 | D:7 | Got a tattered robe 7038 | D:7 | Identified the +2 robe of Chuwab {Str+4 Dex+1} (You found it on level 7 of the Dungeon) 7530 | D:7 | Found a shattered altar of Ashenzari. 7753 | D:7 | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple. 7781 | D:7 | Reached skill level 10 in Spellcasting 7905 | Temple | Entered the Ecumenical Temple 7948 | Temple | Became a worshipper of Vehumet 8010 | D:7 | Found a shimmering altar of Xom. 8037 | D:7 | Found a blossoming altar of Fedhas. 8044 | D:7 | Found a sparkling altar of Nemelex Xobeh. 8728 | D:7 | Noticed an orc knight 8732 | D:7 | Killed an orc knight 8896 | D:7 | Noticed an orc knight 8914 | D:7 | Killed an orc knight 8914 | D:7 | Reached skill level 11 in Spellcasting 8914 | D:7 | Reached XP level 10. HP: 31/50 MP: 7/31 9063 | D:7 | Acquired Vehumet's first power 9063 | D:7 | Offered knowledge of Sting by Vehumet. 9243 | D:7 | Noticed an orc knight 9247 | D:7 | Noticed an orc knight 9274 | D:7 | Killed an orc knight 9274 | D:7 | Reached skill level 10 in Fire Magic 9403 | D:7 | Noticed an orc knight 9408 | D:7 | Killed an orc knight 9721 | D:7 | Reached skill level 10 in Conjurations 10367 | D:8 | Found a shimmering altar of Xom. 10476 | D:8 | Reached skill level 12 in Spellcasting 10510 | D:8 | Identified a scroll of acquirement 10682 | D:8 | Noticed Moogles' ghost (experienced MiFi) 10749 | D:8 | Killed Moogles' ghost 10881 | D:8 | Offered knowledge of Magic Dart by Vehumet. 10884 | D:8 | Learned a level 1 spell: Magic Dart 11542 | D:9 | Found Celumol's Book Emporium. 11550 | D:9 | Bought a book of Wizardry for 450 gold pieces 11563 | D:9 | Noticed an elephant 11563 | D:9 | Noticed an elephant 11563 | D:9 | Noticed an elephant 11567 | D:9 | Noticed an elephant 11569 | D:9 | Killed an elephant 11569 | D:9 | Reached XP level 11. HP: 54/54 MP: 33/33 11583 | D:9 | Killed an elephant 11592 | D:9 | Killed an elephant 11599 | D:9 | Killed an elephant 11730 | D:9 | Noticed an elephant 11730 | D:9 | Noticed an elephant 11756 | D:9 | Killed an elephant 11874 | D:9 | Found a staircase to the Lair. 11886 | D:9 | Killed an elephant 11886 | D:9 | Reached skill level 13 in Spellcasting 11974 | Lair:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts 12301 | Lair:1 | Offered knowledge of Searing Ray by Vehumet. 12444 | Lair:1 | Acquired Vehumet's second power 12450 | Lair:1 | Noticed a six-headed hydra 12451 | Lair:1 | Killed a six-headed hydra 12452 | Lair:1 | Noticed Fannar 12608 | Lair:1 | Found a frozen archway. 12833 | Lair:1 | Noticed Nergalle 12837 | Lair:1 | Killed Nergalle 13058 | Lair:1 | Killed Fannar 13356 | Lair:1 | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging 13475 | Lair:1 | Paralysed by you for 5 turns 13680 | Lair:2 | Offered knowledge of Iskenderun's Mystic Blast by Vehumet. 13686 | Lair:2 | Learned a level 4 spell: Iskenderun's Mystic Blast 13699 | Lair:2 | Reached skill level 14 in Spellcasting 13836 | Lair:2 | Reached XP level 12. HP: 55/59 MP: 35/35 14135 | Lair:2 | Noticed Harold 14139 | Lair:2 | Killed Harold 14447 | Lair:2 | Acquired Vehumet's third power 14541 | Lair:2 | Learned a level 2 spell: Repel Missiles 14544 | Lair:2 | Learned a level 2 spell: Blink 15396 | Lair:3 | Learned a level 1 spell: Apportation 15399 | Lair:3 | Learned a level 2 spell: Call Imp 15533 | Lair:3 | Offered knowledge of Airstrike by Vehumet. 16048 | Lair:4 | Noticed a six-headed hydra 16050 | Lair:4 | Killed a six-headed hydra 16050 | Lair:4 | Reached skill level 15 in Spellcasting 16397 | Lair:5 | Offered knowledge of Olgreb's Toxic Radiance by Vehumet. 17306 | Lair:1 | Learned a level 6 spell: Haste 17825 | Lair:6 | Reached skill level 1 in Charms 17825 | Lair:6 | Reached XP level 13. HP: 55/63 MP: 24/37 17865 | Lair:6 | Found a dark tunnel. 17874 | Volcano | Entered a volcano 18523 | Lair:6 | Found a hole to the Spider Nest. 19097 | Lair:6 | Offered knowledge of Conjure Ball Lightning by Vehumet. 19134 | Lair:6 | Found a staircase to the Swamp. 19581 | D:9 | Noticed an elephant 19583 | D:9 | Killed an elephant 19708 | D:9 | Reached skill level 5 in Charms 19814 | D:9 | Noticed an elephant 19816 | D:9 | Killed an elephant 20229 | D:10 | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon 21377 | D:7 | Killed an orc knight 22429 | D:11 | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines. 22979 | D:11 | Reached skill level 10 in Charms 23140 | D:11 | Offered knowledge of Lightning Bolt by Vehumet. 24138 | D:12 | Identified Sif Muna's Catalogue of Protection and Feathers 24769 | Lair:1 | Upgraded the game from 0.13-a0-2641-gc68e7bd to 0.13-a0-2643-gffe6e9f 25173 | D:13 | Found a snail-covered altar of Cheibriados. 25501 | D:13 | Found a white marble altar of Elyvilon. 25518 | D:13 | Reached skill level 16 in Spellcasting 26477 | Orc:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Orcish Mines 26890 | Orc:2 | Offered knowledge of Bolt of Fire by Vehumet. 26919 | Orc:1 | Learned a level 6 spell: Bolt of Fire 27663 | Orc:1 | Found a flagged portal. 27674 | Bailey | Entered a bailey 27816 | Bailey | Gained mutation: You tend to lose your temper in combat. [mutagenic glow] 28254 | Orc:2 | Reached XP level 14. HP: 68/68 MP: 38/38 29083 | Orc:3 | Found a staircase to the Elven Halls. 29083 | Orc:3 | Noticed an orc warlord 29212 | Orc:3 | Found Xoqed's Gadget Emporium. 29213 | Orc:3 | Offered knowledge of Poison Arrow by Vehumet. 29217 | Orc:3 | Noticed Nessos 29220 | Orc:3 | Killed Nessos 29624 | Orc:3 | Killed an orc warlord 30270 | Orc:3 | Upgraded the game from 0.13-a0-2643-gffe6e9f to 0.13-a0-2648-g56e3d78 30628 | Lair:7 | Reached skill level 1 in Staves 31594 | Lair:7 | Offered knowledge of Delayed Fireball by Vehumet. 32141 | Lair:1 | Learned a level 7 spell: Delayed Fireball 32293 | Lair:8 | Entered Level 8 of the Lair of Beasts 32638 | Lair:8 | Found a staircase to the Slime Pits. 32786 | Lair:8 | Reached skill level 17 in Spellcasting 33369 | Lair:8 | Reached skill level 15 in Conjurations 33915 | Lair:8 | Found a burning altar of Makhleb. 34432 | Lair:8 | Reached skill level 15 in Fire Magic 34456 | Lair:8 | Found a gateway to Hell. 34469 | Lair:8 | Got a pair of dazzling gloves 34534 | Lair:8 | Reached XP level 15. HP: 72/72 MP: 29/39 34680 | Lair:1 | Identified the +1 pair of gloves "Gheho" {Str+1 Int-4} (You found it on level 8 of the Lair of Beasts) 34813 | D:13 | Offered knowledge of Iron Shot by Vehumet. 34854 | D:14 | Entered Level 14 of the Dungeon 34952 | D:14 | Noticed Roxanne 35859 | Lair:1 | Reached skill level 18 in Spellcasting 35859 | Lair:1 | Reached XP level 16. HP: 76/81 MP: 41/41 35880 | Lair:1 | Learned a level 9 spell: Fire Storm 36056 | D:15 | Entered Level 15 of the Dungeon 36662 | D:15 | Found a basalt altar of Yredelemnul. 36974 | D:15 | Reached skill level 10 in Dodging 37720 | D:16 | Reached skill level 1 in Evocations 38080 | D:16 | Found a staircase to the Vaults. 38168 | D:16 | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting 38679 | D:16 | Noticed Urug 38696 | D:16 | Killed Urug 39629 | D:17 | Offered knowledge of Shatter by Vehumet. 39629 | D:17 | Offered knowledge of Chain Lightning by Vehumet. 39629 | D:17 | Offered knowledge of Tornado by Vehumet. 39774 | D:17 | Noticed Snorg 39787 | D:17 | Killed Snorg 40508 | D:18 | Reached skill level 5 in Evocations 40680 | D:18 | Noticed Mara Action | 1- 3 | 4- 6 | 7- 9 | 10-12 | 13-15 | 16-18 || total -------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------++------- Melee: Short sword | | 8 | | | | || 8 Unarmed | | | 12 | 3 | | || 15 Staff | | | | 9 | 2 | || 11 Fire: Blowgun | | 68 | 4 | | | || 72 Throw: Dagger | 31 | 1 | | | | || 32 Stone | 27 | | | | | || 27 Dart | 2 | | | | | || 2 Spear | | 1 | | | | || 1 Cast: Flame Tongue | 51 | 75 | 110 | 81 | 36 | 20 || 373 Throw Flame | 6 | 29 | 68 | 147 | 84 | 14 || 348 Sticky Flame | | 4 | 33 | 47 | 32 | 8 || 124 Conjure Flame | | 1 | 7 | 13 | | || 21 Fireball | | | 16 | 199 | 528 | 192 || 935 Magic Dart | | | | 10 | | || 10 Iskenderun's Myst | | | | 3 | 40 | 19 || 62 Call Imp | | | | 1 | 25 | || 26 Haste | | | | | 34 | 9 || 43 Apportation | | | | | 1 | || 1 Repel Missiles | | | | | 2 | 10 || 12 Delayed Fireball | | | | | 3 | 2 || 5 Blink | | | | | 1 | || 1 Bolt of Fire | | | | | | 9 || 9 Abil: Release Delayed F | | | | | 2 | 2 || 4 Evoke: Wand | | | 5 | 6 | 10 | || 21 Miscellaneous | | | | | | 1 || 1 Use: Scroll | | 13 | 2 | 14 | 16 | || 45 Potion | | | | 2 | 2 | 1 || 5

I killed him once as an MiBe with axes and cleave, purely out of luck, by going out of LOS, hasting, mighting, then blinking next to him with a scroll and going to town.

I think I should really consider completely ignoring mara for the entirety of this game, seeing as he has high HP, does a LOT of damage, I'm a fire elementalist and he is RF++ (Although I do actually have RF+++ available to me)

I'm welcome to any suggestions on easy/pretty surefire ways to kill him, but for now I think Im just going to run.

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I added the B above. I'm thinking of blinking to there using a scroll, finding the nearest down stair and diving past him, ignoring him completely.

My other options I guess are:

Get out of LOS, haste, Rmsl (Does this help avoid bolt of fire?) summon a whole bunch of imp meat shields, then try and take him down fast with Iskenderuns (I feel like this is a bad idea but Im just throwing it out there)

Or ID that unknown scroll in my inventory, hope its holy word, if it is, haste, RMSL, read scrolls and pelt him with iskenderuns.

Friday, 9th August 2013, 14:56 by Sandman25

Yes, RMsl helps with Bolts of foo.
I would avoid Mara too (100% at XL 16 of non-stabber)
If Mara decides to clone you, the copy will easily firestorm you despite having 83% failure rate.

Friday, 9th August 2013, 15:02 by delarado

Wow, OK, Blink away and completely avoid level it is.

On another note, I found a crystal ball. Training evocations now is correct I take it?

Friday, 9th August 2013, 15:25 by Amnesiac

The fist thing before training for cboe is to have enough fire(/spell)power, and the second one is to have equipment to counter it's negative effects: clarity, sustab, staff of energy in case it drains all your mana, escape options.

Friday, 9th August 2013, 15:27 by ackack

CBoE is sort of weird. The big thing with it is it only is effective if you still have a lot of mana to begin with, which is almost certainly different from what you're expecting when you find it. The occasional int drains are probably not a very big deal, but losing all your MP to it or getting confused are quite bad. You can fix the confusion with clarity if you have no other amulet slot you like; my one CBoE character had lucked into the clarity mutation, which made it very attractive.

Because of this, I think CBoE works best with self-Sublimation of Blood so that you have a tool to get yourself back up to mid-range MP reliably. Of course if you have Sublimation the CBoE becomes far less necessary to begin with, so there's that. If I'm going to use the CBoE a lot I probably like somewhere around 15 evo --- more will do even better but is obviously a big xp expenditure. By itself this is not worth training over other more important things. If you have a few of the .13 elemental evokers I might consider starting work on evo.

Friday, 9th August 2013, 15:56 by Amnesiac

If you have 27 evo and means to counter every problem that a CBoE can cause, it allows you to do some silly things, like spamming fire storm untill the whole level of monsters gathers at your location and proceeds to die from fire storm like everything else. Otherwise I would say, that it's a suboptimal tool. I would even say that it's probably always suboptimal, because before you have all the prerequisites it doesn't make you more effective, while you waste loads of exp on evocations, when you could make your spells, defences and some weapon skill stronger to avoid the situation where you need an infinite amout of MP to begin with. Then again conjurations(and other magic) are strong, so a mage can pull it and then go for an extended game with his unlimited MP ready to blow through all those wimps, who can't stand a chance against unlimited fire storm

Friday, 9th August 2013, 17:43 by delarado

Thanks for the responses guys. So I've done a few more levels of D:, and found a source of Rpois so I might go rock out the upper levels of spiders nest now. Shame I don't have access to ignite poison this game...

I found another scroll of acquirement and requested a staff again, still no staff of fire, wtf. I now have two staffs of wizardry, a staff of power and a staff of energy. Currently using the staff of energy as it makes my bolt of fire and haste casting hunger less (as well as delayed fireball but that doesnt matter so much) which is really nice for taking out heavy threats (Earlier on I went downstairs to be greeted by two cyclops and a centaur captain standing at 9 oclock, 12 oclock and 3 oclock, bolt of fire really helped!)

Check out this horrible amulet... I've found two amulets all game, the one I'm wearing, and this one!

the amulet "Zeng" {rCorr Hunger +Blink Str-5 Dam+4}

Code:: Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.13-a0-2648-g56e3d78 (webtiles) character file. Delarado the Eclecticist (DEFE) Turns: 45632, Time: 05:28:36 HP 94/94 AC 7 Str 8 XL: 17 Next: 29% MP 42/42 EV 18 Int 25 God: Vehumet [******] Gold 3211 SH 0 Dex 15 Spells: 15 memorised, 4 levels left Res.Fire : + + . See Invis. : + I - staff of energy Res.Cold : x . . Warding : + i - +2 robe {rF+} Life Prot.: + . . Conserve : . (no shield) Res.Poison: . Res.Corr. : . (no helmet) Res.Elec. : . Clarity : . h - +0 cloak Sust.Abil.: . . Spirit.Shd : . a - +0 pair of gloves Res.Mut. : . Stasis : . J - +0 pair of boots Res.Rott. : . Flight : . n - amulet of warding Saprovore : . . . e - ring of see invisible R - ring of fire @: delayed fireball, quite resistant to hostile enchantments, fairly stealthy A: berserk 1 a: Renounce Religion, Release Delayed Fireball You are on level 1 of the Lair of Beasts. You worship Vehumet. Vehumet is exalted by your worship. You are hungry. You have visited 4 branches of the dungeon, and seen 32 of its levels. You have also visited: Bailey and Volcano. You have collected 3641 gold pieces. You have spent 450 gold pieces at shops. Inventory: Armour a - a +0 pair of gloves (worn) h - a +0 cloak (worn) i - a +2 robe of fire resistance (worn) J - a +0 pair of boots (worn) O - a +2 elven robe of cold resistance Magical devices v - a wand of heal wounds {recharged} P - a wand of digging {zapped: 3} Comestibles k - a meat ration Scrolls q - 2 scrolls of magic mapping r - 3 scrolls of identify w - a scroll of recharging {recharging} y - 3 scrolls of remove curse z - 3 scrolls of teleportation C - 2 scrolls of fog D - a scroll of blinking L - a scroll of fear Jewellery e - a ring of see invisible (right hand) n - an amulet of warding (around neck) o - an uncursed ring of sustain abilities t - an uncursed ring of teleport control B - an uncursed ring of magical power F - the amulet "Zeng" {rCorr Hunger +Blink Str-5 Dam+4} (You found it on level 19 of the Dungeon) [amulet of resist corrosion] It affects your strength (-5). It affects your damage-dealing abilities (+4). It lets you blink. It speeds your metabolism. K - an uncursed ring of protection from cold N - an uncursed ring of poison resistance R - a ring of fire (left hand) Potions b - 2 potions of agility d - 4 potions of curing f - 3 potions of heal wounds l - 3 potions of magic m - a potion of restore abilities s - 3 potions of speed M - 2 potions of brilliance U - 2 potions of resistance W - a potion of invisibility Magical staves c - an uncursed staff of power I - an uncursed staff of energy (weapon) Miscellaneous j - a crystal ball of energy x - a box of beasts Skills: * Level 8.4 Fighting - Level 2.2 Staves - Level 10.0 Dodging - Level 2.4 Stealth + Level 19.4 Spellcasting + Level 15.6 Conjurations - Level 11.0 Charms + Level 15.7 Fire Magic + Level 7.1 Evocations You have 4 spell levels left. You know the following spells: Your Spells Type Power Failure Level Hunger a - Flame Tongue Conj/Fire ##### 0% 1 None b - Throw Flame Conj/Fire ###### 0% 2 None c - Conjure Flame Conj/Fire ######## 0% 3 None d - Sticky Flame Conj/Fire ######## 1% 4 None e - Fireball Conj/Fire ########.. 1% 5 None f - Magic Dart Conj #### 0% 1 None g - Iskenderun's Mystic Conj #######. 1% 4 None h - Repel Missiles Chrm/Air ######.... 1% 2 None i - Blink Tloc N/A 3% 2 None j - Apportation Tloc ###....... 1% 1 None k - Call Imp Summ ###....... 3% 2 None l - Haste Chrm ######.. 3% 6 None m - Bolt of Fire Conj/Fire ########.. 1% 6 None n - Delayed Fireball Conj/Fire N/A 1% 7 None o - Fire Storm Conj/Fire ########.. 75% 9 None Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations Branches: Dungeon (20/27) Temple (1/1) D:7 Orc (3/4) D:11 Elf (0/3) Orc:2 Orc:3 Lair (8/8) D:9 Swamp (0/5) Lair:6 Spider (0/5) Lair:6 Slime (0/6) Lair:8 Vaults (0/5) D:16 Altars: Ashenzari Cheibriados Elyvilon Fedhas Kikubaaqudgha Makhleb Nemelex Xobeh Okawaru Sif Muna Trog Vehumet Xom Yredelemnul Zin the Shining One Shops: D:7: + D:9: + D:19: * Orc:3: } Portals: Hell: Lair:8 Annotations D:12 exclusion: silver statue D:14 exclusion: Roxanne, Roxanne D:18 Mara Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations You tend to lose your temper in combat. Message History You drop 4 potions of curing. You drop 2 potions of heal wounds. You drop a potion of berserk rage. Okay, then. Items here: ((( )) || Things that are here: an uncursed ring of magical power; an uncursed ring of invisibility a +4 ring of intelligence; a +3 ring of evasion You see here 9 bread rations. Search for what [Enter for "corpse", or ? for help]? food Things that are here: an uncursed ring of magical power; an uncursed ring of invisibility a +4 ring of intelligence; a +3 ring of evasion Items here: ((( )) || Items here: ::::::::: Drop what? (_ for help) (? for menu, Esc to quit) You drop a book of Enchantments. Char dumped successfully. Char dumped successfully. 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Vanquished Creatures An orc warlord (Orc:3) A dire elephant (Lair:8) Snorg (D:17) 2 ogre magi Fannar (Lair:1) Harold (Lair:2) 2 yaktaur captains 8 hydras Nessos (Orc:3) The ghost of Moogles the Bludgeoner, an experienced MiFi of Okawaru (D:8) 5 death yaks (Lair:8) Urug (D:16) A sun demon (Lair:8) Nergalle (Lair:1) 10 centaur warriors A very ugly thing (D:20) A flayed ghost (D:20) 8 unseen horrors A wizard (Lair:8) A giant amoeba (D:16) Pikel (D:5) 10 hill giants 3 harpies (D:19) A shining eye (shapeshifter) (D:13) A sphinx zombie (D:19) 3 orc sorcerers 3 griffons A red wasp (D:17) 13 orc knights 2 stone giant zombies A sphinx skeleton (D:19) A stone giant skeleton (D:18) 9 cyclopes 21 elephants 4 black mambas An eye of devastation (D:13) A fire giant skeleton (D:20) An orange demon (Lair:8) 11 spiny frogs 2 fire drakes (Lair:8) A smoke demon (Lair:8) 5 yaktaurs 5 komodo dragons 8 hellwings (Lair:8) An iron troll skeleton (D:20) A red devil (Lair:8) Grinder (D:5) 7 two-headed ogres 6 trolls A hydra skeleton (D:11) 11 blink frogs 32 slime creatures A grizzly bear (shapeshifter) (D:20) 2 griffon zombies A grizzly bear (Lair:2) An ettin zombie (D:19) 4 shadows A dragon skeleton (D:13) 5 basilisks 59 ugly things 3 wyverns A griffon skeleton (D:10) 3 toenail golems (Volcano) 3 trapdoor spiders 66 yaks 5 wolves (Lair:7) An elephant slug (Lair:6) 13 hippogriffs 3 wraiths A deep elf fighter (D:9) A clay golem (D:20) 3 manticores 3 hungry ghosts 3 hill giant skeletons A hippogriff (shapeshifter) (D:20) A swamp worm (Lair:6) A manticore (shapeshifter) (D:20) 3 mottled dragons Menkaure (D:7) A necrophage (D:9) 13 vampire mosquitoes 4 porcupines 32 orc warriors A slave (D:5) A giant goldfish (Lair:6) A yellow wasp (D:13) 4 ice beasts 17 ogres A black bear (Lair:2) 4 humans (Volcano) 4 sky beasts A phantom (D:7) 11 centaurs A brain worm (D:17) 21 wargs 4 big kobolds 18 giant frogs A rotting devil (Lair:8) 14 water moccasins 7 giant slugs 11 crocodiles A giant slug zombie (D:16) A wyvern zombie (D:12) 7 agate snails 2 wyvern skeletons A cyclops skeleton (D:13) A boulder beetle zombie (D:17) An eye of draining (D:17) A troll zombie (D:12) A yak zombie (D:15) 13 killer bees An electric eel (Lair:6) 2 troll skeletons 5 goliath beetles 2 jellyfish (Lair:7) 2 pulsating lumps (Lair:8) 13 crimson imps 8 spiders (Lair:6) A gnoll shaman (D:5) A centaur zombie (D:7) 3 giant frog zombies 13 iguanas 11 hounds Crazy Yiuf (D:6) 19 orc priests A shapeshifter simulacrum (D:16) A two-headed ogre zombie (D:8) A water moccasin skeleton (Lair:8) 13 worker ants 36 orc wizards 7 big fish 3 scorpions 26 sheep A brain worm zombie (D:16) A crocodile zombie (D:8) Jessica (D:2) A big kobold zombie (D:11) 6 jellies A big kobold skeleton (D:15) 11 gnolls 69 green rats 24 adders A shadow imp (D:12) 7 giant centipedes 2 worms A scorpion zombie (D:7) An iguana zombie (D:7) 9 giant geckos An ooze (D:2) 188 orcs 35 bats 5 giant cockroaches 23 goblins 19 hobgoblins 20 jackals 32 kobolds 12 quokkas 4 ball pythons 2 giant newts A giant spore (D:9) A hobgoblin zombie (D:7) A jackal skeleton (D:6) 17 rats A bush (Lair:1) 9 fungi 10 plants 1296 creatures vanquished. Vanquished Creatures (collateral kills) A human (Volcano) A komodo dragon (Lair:7) A jellyfish (Lair:7) 4 big fish (Lair:7) 7 creatures vanquished. Vanquished Creatures (others) A rakshasa (D:12) A sixfirhy (D:12) A neqoxec (D:12) An ogre (D:5) A hound (D:5) 7 crimson imps A lemure (D:12) A shadow imp (D:18) 7 white imps 2 orcs (D:7) A giant cockroach (D:5) A human (Volcano) 3 fungi 4 plants (Lair:8) 32 creatures vanquished. Grand Total: 1335 creatures vanquished Notes Turn | Place | Note -------------------------------------------------------------- 0 | D:1 | Delarado, the Deep Elf Fire Elementalist, began the quest for the Orb. 0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 1. HP: 10/10 MP: 4/4 178 | D:1 | Reached XP level 2. HP: 15/15 MP: 7/7 241 | D:1 | Learned a level 2 spell: Throw Flame 847 | D:2 | Noticed Jessica 851 | D:2 | Killed Jessica 851 | D:2 | Reached XP level 3. HP: 19/19 MP: 10/10 896 | D:2 | Reached skill level 4 in Fire Magic 1314 | D:2 | Reached XP level 4. HP: 24/24 MP: 3/13 1329 | D:2 | Learned a level 4 spell: Sticky Flame 2115 | D:3 | Reached XP level 5. HP: 4/28 MP: 12/16 3230 | D:4 | Reached skill level 5 in Fire Magic 3539 | D:4 | Reached XP level 6. HP: 12/32 MP: 20/20 3757 | D:4 | Found a sparkling altar of Nemelex Xobeh. 4166 | D:4 | Reached skill level 5 in Spellcasting 4171 | D:4 | Learned a level 3 spell: Conjure Flame 4192 | D:4 | Got an opalescent robe 4198 | D:4 | Identified the +1 robe "Eblefecs" {Dex-3 Int+4 Dam-6} (You found it on level 4 of the Dungeon) 4759 | D:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon 4810 | D:5 | Reached XP level 7. HP: 36/36 MP: 21/22 4872 | D:5 | Noticed Pikel 4905 | D:5 | Killed Pikel 4905 | D:5 | Reached skill level 7 in Spellcasting 4905 | D:5 | Reached skill level 5 in Conjurations 5101 | D:5 | Noticed Grinder 5104 | D:5 | Paralysed by Grinder for 3 turns 5186 | D:4 | Learned a level 5 spell: Fireball 5363 | D:5 | Reached XP level 8. HP: 41/41 MP: 25/25 5571 | D:5 | Killed Grinder 5897 | D:5 | Found a glowing silver altar of Zin. 5983 | D:6 | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha. 6236 | D:6 | Reached skill level 8 in Spellcasting 6417 | D:6 | Found a white marble altar of Elyvilon. 6634 | D:6 | Noticed Crazy Yiuf 6648 | D:6 | Killed Crazy Yiuf 6743 | D:7 | Noticed Menkaure 6744 | D:7 | Killed Menkaure 6744 | D:7 | Reached skill level 9 in Spellcasting 6753 | D:7 | Reached XP level 9. HP: 39/45 MP: 15/28 6977 | D:7 | Found Asuerita's Book Boutique. 7029 | D:7 | Got a tattered robe 7038 | D:7 | Identified the +2 robe of Chuwab {Str+4 Dex+1} (You found it on level 7 of the Dungeon) 7530 | D:7 | Found a shattered altar of Ashenzari. 7753 | D:7 | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple. 7781 | D:7 | Reached skill level 10 in Spellcasting 7905 | Temple | Entered the Ecumenical Temple 7948 | Temple | Became a worshipper of Vehumet 8010 | D:7 | Found a shimmering altar of Xom. 8037 | D:7 | Found a blossoming altar of Fedhas. 8044 | D:7 | Found a sparkling altar of Nemelex Xobeh. 8728 | D:7 | Noticed an orc knight 8732 | D:7 | Killed an orc knight 8896 | D:7 | Noticed an orc knight 8914 | D:7 | Killed an orc knight 8914 | D:7 | Reached skill level 11 in Spellcasting 8914 | D:7 | Reached XP level 10. HP: 31/50 MP: 7/31 9063 | D:7 | Acquired Vehumet's first power 9063 | D:7 | Offered knowledge of Sting by Vehumet. 9243 | D:7 | Noticed an orc knight 9247 | D:7 | Noticed an orc knight 9274 | D:7 | Killed an orc knight 9274 | D:7 | Reached skill level 10 in Fire Magic 9403 | D:7 | Noticed an orc knight 9408 | D:7 | Killed an orc knight 9721 | D:7 | Reached skill level 10 in Conjurations 10367 | D:8 | Found a shimmering altar of Xom. 10476 | D:8 | Reached skill level 12 in Spellcasting 10510 | D:8 | Identified a scroll of acquirement 10682 | D:8 | Noticed Moogles' ghost (experienced MiFi) 10749 | D:8 | Killed Moogles' ghost 10881 | D:8 | Offered knowledge of Magic Dart by Vehumet. 10884 | D:8 | Learned a level 1 spell: Magic Dart 11542 | D:9 | Found Celumol's Book Emporium. 11550 | D:9 | Bought a book of Wizardry for 450 gold pieces 11563 | D:9 | Noticed an elephant 11563 | D:9 | Noticed an elephant 11563 | D:9 | Noticed an elephant 11567 | D:9 | Noticed an elephant 11569 | D:9 | Killed an elephant 11569 | D:9 | Reached XP level 11. HP: 54/54 MP: 33/33 11583 | D:9 | Killed an elephant 11592 | D:9 | Killed an elephant 11599 | D:9 | Killed an elephant 11730 | D:9 | Noticed an elephant 11730 | D:9 | Noticed an elephant 11756 | D:9 | Killed an elephant 11874 | D:9 | Found a staircase to the Lair. 11886 | D:9 | Killed an elephant 11886 | D:9 | Reached skill level 13 in Spellcasting 11974 | Lair:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts 12301 | Lair:1 | Offered knowledge of Searing Ray by Vehumet. 12444 | Lair:1 | Acquired Vehumet's second power 12450 | Lair:1 | Noticed a six-headed hydra 12451 | Lair:1 | Killed a six-headed hydra 12452 | Lair:1 | Noticed Fannar 12608 | Lair:1 | Found a frozen archway. 12833 | Lair:1 | Noticed Nergalle 12837 | Lair:1 | Killed Nergalle 13058 | Lair:1 | Killed Fannar 13356 | Lair:1 | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging 13475 | Lair:1 | Paralysed by you for 5 turns 13680 | Lair:2 | Offered knowledge of Iskenderun's Mystic Blast by Vehumet. 13686 | Lair:2 | Learned a level 4 spell: Iskenderun's Mystic Blast 13699 | Lair:2 | Reached skill level 14 in Spellcasting 13836 | Lair:2 | Reached XP level 12. HP: 55/59 MP: 35/35 14135 | Lair:2 | Noticed Harold 14139 | Lair:2 | Killed Harold 14447 | Lair:2 | Acquired Vehumet's third power 14541 | Lair:2 | Learned a level 2 spell: Repel Missiles 14544 | Lair:2 | Learned a level 2 spell: Blink 15396 | Lair:3 | Learned a level 1 spell: Apportation 15399 | Lair:3 | Learned a level 2 spell: Call Imp 15533 | Lair:3 | Offered knowledge of Airstrike by Vehumet. 16048 | Lair:4 | Noticed a six-headed hydra 16050 | Lair:4 | Killed a six-headed hydra 16050 | Lair:4 | Reached skill level 15 in Spellcasting 16397 | Lair:5 | Offered knowledge of Olgreb's Toxic Radiance by Vehumet. 17306 | Lair:1 | Learned a level 6 spell: Haste 17825 | Lair:6 | Reached skill level 1 in Charms 17825 | Lair:6 | Reached XP level 13. HP: 55/63 MP: 24/37 17865 | Lair:6 | Found a dark tunnel. 17874 | Volcano | Entered a volcano 18523 | Lair:6 | Found a hole to the Spider Nest. 19097 | Lair:6 | Offered knowledge of Conjure Ball Lightning by Vehumet. 19134 | Lair:6 | Found a staircase to the Swamp. 19581 | D:9 | Noticed an elephant 19583 | D:9 | Killed an elephant 19708 | D:9 | Reached skill level 5 in Charms 19814 | D:9 | Noticed an elephant 19816 | D:9 | Killed an elephant 20229 | D:10 | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon 21377 | D:7 | Killed an orc knight 22429 | D:11 | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines. 22979 | D:11 | Reached skill level 10 in Charms 23140 | D:11 | Offered knowledge of Lightning Bolt by Vehumet. 24138 | D:12 | Identified Sif Muna's Catalogue of Protection and Feathers 24769 | Lair:1 | Upgraded the game from 0.13-a0-2641-gc68e7bd to 0.13-a0-2643-gffe6e9f 25173 | D:13 | Found a snail-covered altar of Cheibriados. 25501 | D:13 | Found a white marble altar of Elyvilon. 25518 | D:13 | Reached skill level 16 in Spellcasting 26477 | Orc:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Orcish Mines 26890 | Orc:2 | Offered knowledge of Bolt of Fire by Vehumet. 26919 | Orc:1 | Learned a level 6 spell: Bolt of Fire 27663 | Orc:1 | Found a flagged portal. 27674 | Bailey | Entered a bailey 27816 | Bailey | Gained mutation: You tend to lose your temper in combat. [mutagenic glow] 28254 | Orc:2 | Reached XP level 14. HP: 68/68 MP: 38/38 29083 | Orc:3 | Found a staircase to the Elven Halls. 29083 | Orc:3 | Noticed an orc warlord 29212 | Orc:3 | Found Xoqed's Gadget Emporium. 29213 | Orc:3 | Offered knowledge of Poison Arrow by Vehumet. 29217 | Orc:3 | Noticed Nessos 29220 | Orc:3 | Killed Nessos 29624 | Orc:3 | Killed an orc warlord 30270 | Orc:3 | Upgraded the game from 0.13-a0-2643-gffe6e9f to 0.13-a0-2648-g56e3d78 30628 | Lair:7 | Reached skill level 1 in Staves 31594 | Lair:7 | Offered knowledge of Delayed Fireball by Vehumet. 32141 | Lair:1 | Learned a level 7 spell: Delayed Fireball 32293 | Lair:8 | Entered Level 8 of the Lair of Beasts 32638 | Lair:8 | Found a staircase to the Slime Pits. 32786 | Lair:8 | Reached skill level 17 in Spellcasting 33369 | Lair:8 | Reached skill level 15 in Conjurations 33915 | Lair:8 | Found a burning altar of Makhleb. 34432 | Lair:8 | Reached skill level 15 in Fire Magic 34456 | Lair:8 | Found a gateway to Hell. 34469 | Lair:8 | Got a pair of dazzling gloves 34534 | Lair:8 | Reached XP level 15. HP: 72/72 MP: 29/39 34680 | Lair:1 | Identified the +1 pair of gloves "Gheho" {Str+1 Int-4} (You found it on level 8 of the Lair of Beasts) 34813 | D:13 | Offered knowledge of Iron Shot by Vehumet. 34854 | D:14 | Entered Level 14 of the Dungeon 34952 | D:14 | Noticed Roxanne 35859 | Lair:1 | Reached skill level 18 in Spellcasting 35859 | Lair:1 | Reached XP level 16. HP: 76/81 MP: 41/41 35880 | Lair:1 | Learned a level 9 spell: Fire Storm 36056 | D:15 | Entered Level 15 of the Dungeon 36662 | D:15 | Found a basalt altar of Yredelemnul. 36974 | D:15 | Reached skill level 10 in Dodging 37720 | D:16 | Reached skill level 1 in Evocations 38080 | D:16 | Found a staircase to the Vaults. 38168 | D:16 | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting 38679 | D:16 | Noticed Urug 38696 | D:16 | Killed Urug 39629 | D:17 | Offered knowledge of Shatter by Vehumet. 39629 | D:17 | Offered knowledge of Chain Lightning by Vehumet. 39629 | D:17 | Offered knowledge of Tornado by Vehumet. 39774 | D:17 | Noticed Snorg 39787 | D:17 | Killed Snorg 40508 | D:18 | Reached skill level 5 in Evocations 40680 | D:18 | Noticed Mara 40979 | D:19 | Reached skill level 19 in Spellcasting 41325 | D:19 | Got an ancient graven amulet 41326 | D:19 | Identified the amulet "Zeng" {rCorr Hunger +Blink Str-5 Dam+4} (You found it on level 19 of the Dungeon) 41456 | D:19 | Found Edirorir's Demolitions Depot. 42420 | D:19 | Reached XP level 17. HP: 84/93 MP: 12/42 42647 | D:20 | Entered Level 20 of the Dungeon Action | 1- 3 | 4- 6 | 7- 9 | 10-12 | 13-15 | 16-18 || total -------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------++------- Melee: Short sword | | 8 | | | | || 8 Unarmed | | | 12 | 3 | | || 15 Staff | | | | 9 | 2 | || 11 Fire: Blowgun | | 68 | 4 | | | || 72 Throw: Dagger | 31 | 1 | | | | || 32 Stone | 27 | | | | | || 27 Dart | 2 | | | | | || 2 Spear | | 1 | | | | || 1 Cast: Flame Tongue | 51 | 75 | 110 | 81 | 36 | 24 || 377 Throw Flame | 6 | 29 | 68 | 147 | 84 | 14 || 348 Sticky Flame | | 4 | 33 | 47 | 32 | 21 || 137 Conjure Flame | | 1 | 7 | 13 | | || 21 Fireball | | | 16 | 199 | 528 | 345 || 1088 Magic Dart | | | | 10 | | || 10 Iskenderun's Myst | | | | 3 | 40 | 29 || 72 Call Imp | | | | 1 | 25 | 15 || 41 Haste | | | | | 34 | 19 || 53 Apportation | | | | | 1 | || 1 Repel Missiles | | | | | 2 | 16 || 18 Delayed Fireball | | | | | 3 | 4 || 7 Blink | | | | | 1 | || 1 Bolt of Fire | | | | | | 45 || 45 Abil: Release Delayed F | | | | | 2 | 4 || 6 Evoke: Wand | | | 5 | 6 | 10 | || 21 Miscellaneous | | | | | | 1 || 1 Use: Scroll | | 13 | 2 | 14 | 16 | 6 || 51 Potion | | | | 2 | 2 | 3 || 7

Friday, 9th August 2013, 18:31 by ackack

That's actually a pretty nice amulet, just not for you - the -5 Str is painful when you only have 8.

You really need to be wearing your protection from cold ring by default if you're going to wear that ring of fire.

Friday, 9th August 2013, 19:12 by delarado

Yes, I normally wear my cold protection robes, but I was travelling between floors with Mara on it, so I wanted to max RF in case i came into contact with him while auto travelling

Friday, 9th August 2013, 19:18 by ackack

Going from one level of rF to two takes you from 50% damage to 33% damage. By contrast, cold vulnerability is 200% damage from cold sources. If you happen to get unlucky and encounter a centaur or yaktaur with the right type of ammo, that could be pretty bad.

Friday, 9th August 2013, 19:54 by delarado

Ok, good point, point taken

Ive just seen Nikola. Im pretty scared, I have no rElec. i have potions of resistance though. Quaff one and try and burst him down or RTFA? hmmm decisions...

Saturday, 10th August 2013, 03:03 by Amnesiac

I think he's not so dangerous after you drink a potion of resistance, expecially for a DEFE, but don't forget to buff yourself with haste(obviously)

Saturday, 10th August 2013, 09:56 by delarado

Amnesiac wrote:I think he's not so dangerous after you drink a potion of resistance, expecially for a DEFE, but don't forget to buff yourself with haste(obviously)

You were totally right. I hasted, drank resistance, and four bolt of fire's later he was dead and I'd lost 20 hp. I didnt let him get adjacent to me though to bounce lightning, and thinking about it I actually forgot to cast repel missiles, so I don't know what I was worried about!

Orc, Spider and Swamp completed all except the last level now. I'm not sure what to do next...its more D: Or the upper levels of vault I guess!

Code:: Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.13-a0-2657-gc1edc70 (webtiles) character file. Delarado the Eclecticist (DEFE) Turns: 60416, Time: 06:57:35 HP 101/101 AC 8 Str 9 XL: 18 Next: 44% MP 51/51 EV 18 Int 25 God: Vehumet [******] Gold 2647 SH 0 Dex 15 Spells: 15 memorised, 6 levels left Res.Fire : + . . See Invis. : . I - staff of energy Res.Cold : . . . Warding : + O - +2 elf robe {rC+} Life Prot.: + . . Conserve : . (no shield) Res.Poison: . Res.Corr. : . (no helmet) Res.Elec. : . Clarity : . o - +1 cloak Sust.Abil.: . . Spirit.Shd : . a - +0 pair of gloves Res.Mut. : . Stasis : . J - +0 pair of boots Res.Rott. : . Flight : . n - amulet of warding Saprovore : . . . R - ring of fire B - ring of magical power @: quite resistant to hostile enchantments, quite stealthy A: berserk 1 a: Renounce Religion You are on level 1 of the Lair of Beasts. You worship Vehumet. Vehumet is exalted by your worship. You are not hungry. You have visited 6 branches of the dungeon, and seen 40 of its levels. You have also visited: Bailey and Volcano. You have collected 4127 gold pieces. You have spent 1500 gold pieces at shops. Inventory: Armour a - a +0 pair of gloves (worn) i - a +2 robe of fire resistance o - a +1 cloak (worn) r - a +0 robe of magic resistance J - a +0 pair of boots (worn) O - a +2 elven robe of cold resistance (worn) Magical devices u - a wand of disintegration v - a wand of heal wounds {recharged} x - a wand of disintegration (8) P - a wand of digging {zapped: 3} X - a wand of teleportation {zapped: 1} Comestibles g - 3 bread rations Scrolls q - 3 scrolls of magic mapping w - 3 scrolls of recharging {recharging} y - 5 scrolls of remove curse z - 4 scrolls of teleportation A - 4 scrolls of identify C - 2 scrolls of fog D - 3 scrolls of blinking L - 3 scrolls of fear Jewellery e - an uncursed ring of see invisible k - an uncursed ring of fire n - an amulet of warding (around neck) t - an uncursed ring of teleport control B - a ring of magical power (left hand) G - an uncursed ring of protection from magic N - an uncursed ring of poison resistance R - a ring of fire (right hand) Potions b - 2 potions of agility d - 4 potions of curing f - 2 potions of heal wounds l - 3 potions of magic m - 2 potions of restore abilities s - 4 potions of speed M - 2 potions of brilliance U - a potion of resistance W - 2 potions of invisibility Magical staves p - an uncursed staff of wizardry I - an uncursed staff of energy (weapon) Skills: + Level 9.2 Fighting - Level 2.2 Staves - Level 10.0 Dodging + Level 6.3 Stealth + Level 20.7 Spellcasting + Level 16.9 Conjurations - Level 11.0 Charms + Level 16.9 Fire Magic - Level 7.9 Evocations You have 6 spell levels left. You know the following spells: Your Spells Type Power Failure Level Hunger a - Flame Tongue Conj/Fire ##### 0% 1 None b - Throw Flame Conj/Fire ###### 0% 2 None c - Ignite Poison Fire/Trmt #######... 1% 5 None d - Sticky Flame Conj/Fire ######## 0% 4 None e - Fireball Conj/Fire ########.. 1% 5 None f - Magic Dart Conj #### 0% 1 None g - Iskenderun's Mystic Conj #######. 0% 4 None h - Repel Missiles Chrm/Air ######.... 1% 2 None i - Blink Tloc N/A 2% 2 None j - Apportation Tloc ####...... 1% 1 None k - Call Imp Summ ####...... 2% 2 None l - Haste Chrm ######.. 2% 6 None m - Bolt of Fire Conj/Fire ########.. 1% 6 None n - Delayed Fireball Conj/Fire N/A 1% 7 None o - Fire Storm Conj/Fire ########.. 50% 9 None Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations Branches: Dungeon (20/27) Temple (1/1) D:7 Orc (3/4) D:11 Elf (0/3) Orc:2 Orc:3 Lair (8/8) D:9 Swamp (4/5) Lair:6 Spider (4/5) Lair:6 Slime (0/6) Lair:8 Vaults (0/5) D:16 Altars: Ashenzari Cheibriados Elyvilon Fedhas Kikubaaqudgha Makhleb Nemelex Xobeh Okawaru Sif Muna Trog Vehumet Xom Yredelemnul Zin the Shining One Shops: D:7: + D:9: + D:19: * Orc:3: } Portals: Hell: Lair:8 Annotations D:12 exclusion: silver statue D:14 exclusion: Roxanne, Roxanne D:18 Mara Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations You tend to lose your temper in combat. Message History You drop a +1 ring of strength. Items here: ((( )) || Items here: :::::::::::::: Items here: ((( )) || Items here: "" ========= You see here 5 bread rations. Items here: ??????????????? There are several objects here. Pick up 2 scrolls of enchant armour? ((y)es/(n)o/(a)ll/(m)enu/*?g,/q) Okay, then. Items here: /////////////// Items here: [[[[[ the +1 pair of gloves "Gheho" {Str+1 Int-4} the +2 robe of Chuwab {Str+4 Dex+1} the +1 robe "Eblefecs" {Dex-3 Int+4 Dam-6} a +0 elven robe of fire resistance; a +2 robe of fire resistance Items here: !!!!!!!!!!! Items here: :::::::::::::: Char dumped successfully. 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Vanquished Creatures Nikola (Spider:3) Frances (Swamp:4) Kirke (Swamp:2) Wiglaf (Swamp:4) An orc warlord (Orc:3) A ghost moth (Spider:4) A dire elephant (Lair:8) Snorg (D:17) 2 ogre magi Fannar (Lair:1) Harold (Lair:2) 2 yaktaur captains 12 hydras 8 alligators Nessos (Orc:3) The ghost of Moogles the Bludgeoner, an experienced MiFi of Okawaru (D:8) 5 death yaks (Lair:8) Urug (D:16) A sun demon (Lair:8) Nergalle (Lair:1) 10 centaur warriors A very ugly thing (D:20) A flayed ghost (D:20) A swamp dragon (Swamp:4) 8 unseen horrors A wizard (Lair:8) A giant amoeba (D:16) Pikel (D:5) 10 hill giants 3 harpies (D:19) 14 wolf spiders A shining eye (shapeshifter) (D:13) A sphinx zombie (D:19) 3 orc sorcerers 3 griffons 4 red wasps 13 orc knights 2 stone giant zombies A sphinx skeleton (D:19) A stone giant skeleton (D:18) 9 cyclopes 21 elephants 4 black mambas An eye of devastation (D:13) A fire giant skeleton (D:20) An orange demon (Lair:8) A queen ant (Spider:1) 24 spiny frogs 2 fire drakes (Lair:8) 11 demonic crawlers A smoke demon (Lair:8) 5 yaktaurs 5 komodo dragons 8 hellwings (Lair:8) An iron troll skeleton (D:20) A red devil (Lair:8) Grinder (D:5) 7 two-headed ogres 6 trolls 11 jumping spiders 9 giant leeches A hydra skeleton (D:11) 13 blink frogs 8 orb spiders A boulder beetle (Spider:1) 48 slime creatures A grizzly bear (shapeshifter) (D:20) 2 griffon zombies 2 baby alligators (Swamp:2) 13 bog bodies A grizzly bear (Lair:2) An ettin zombie (D:19) 4 shadows A dragon skeleton (D:13) 5 basilisks 7 tarantellas 59 ugly things 19 redbacks 3 wyverns A griffon skeleton (D:10) 3 toenail golems (Volcano) 16 trapdoor spiders 66 yaks 5 wolves (Lair:7) An elephant slug (Lair:6) 3 hogs (Swamp:2) 14 hippogriffs 3 wraiths A deep elf fighter (D:9) A clay golem (D:20) 3 manticores 4 hungry ghosts 3 hill giant skeletons A hippogriff (shapeshifter) (D:20) 39 swamp worms A manticore (shapeshifter) (D:20) 3 mottled dragons Menkaure (D:7) A necrophage (D:9) 52 vampire mosquitoes An orange crystal statue (Swamp:1) 4 porcupines 32 orc warriors 4 soldier ants (Spider:1) 10 swamp drakes A slave (D:5) 11 giant goldfish A yellow wasp (D:13) 4 ice beasts 17 ogres A black bear (Lair:2) 4 humans (Volcano) 4 sky beasts A phantom (D:7) 11 centaurs A brain worm (D:17) 21 wargs 4 big kobolds 19 giant frogs A rotting devil (Lair:8) 22 water moccasins A boring beetle (Spider:1) 7 giant slugs 11 crocodiles A giant slug zombie (D:16) A wyvern zombie (D:12) 22 insubstantial wisps 7 agate snails 2 wyvern skeletons A cyclops skeleton (D:13) A boulder beetle zombie (D:17) An eye of draining (D:17) A troll zombie (D:12) A yak zombie (D:15) 13 killer bees 16 electric eels 2 troll skeletons 8 goliath beetles 10 jellyfish 2 pulsating lumps (Lair:8) 13 crimson imps 21 spiders A gnoll shaman (D:5) A centaur zombie (D:7) 3 giant frog zombies 13 iguanas 11 hounds Crazy Yiuf (D:6) 19 orc priests A shapeshifter simulacrum (D:16) A two-headed ogre zombie (D:8) A water moccasin skeleton (Lair:8) 28 worker ants 36 orc wizards 8 big fish 5 scorpions 28 sheep A brain worm zombie (D:16) A crocodile zombie (D:8) Jessica (D:2) A big kobold zombie (D:11) 6 jellies A big kobold skeleton (D:15) 11 gnolls 71 green rats 24 adders A shadow imp (D:12) 7 giant centipedes 2 worms A scorpion zombie (D:7) An iguana zombie (D:7) 10 giant geckos An ooze (D:2) 188 orcs 35 bats 5 giant cockroaches 23 goblins 19 hobgoblins 20 jackals 32 kobolds 12 quokkas 4 ball pythons 2 giant newts A giant spore (D:9) A hobgoblin zombie (D:7) A jackal skeleton (D:6) 17 rats A bush (Lair:1) 10 fungi 11 plants 1660 creatures vanquished. Vanquished Creatures (collateral kills) A human (Volcano) A komodo dragon (Lair:7) A jellyfish (Lair:7) 4 big fish (Lair:7) 7 creatures vanquished. Vanquished Creatures (others) A rakshasa (D:12) A sixfirhy (D:12) A neqoxec (D:12) An ogre (D:5) A hound (D:5) 7 crimson imps A lemure (D:12) A shadow imp (D:18) 7 white imps 2 orcs (D:7) A giant cockroach (D:5) A human (Volcano) 4 fungi 4 plants (Lair:8) 33 creatures vanquished. Grand Total: 1700 creatures vanquished Notes Turn | Place | Note -------------------------------------------------------------- 0 | D:1 | Delarado, the Deep Elf Fire Elementalist, began the quest for the Orb. 0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 1. HP: 10/10 MP: 4/4 178 | D:1 | Reached XP level 2. HP: 15/15 MP: 7/7 241 | D:1 | Learned a level 2 spell: Throw Flame 847 | D:2 | Noticed Jessica 851 | D:2 | Killed Jessica 851 | D:2 | Reached XP level 3. HP: 19/19 MP: 10/10 896 | D:2 | Reached skill level 4 in Fire Magic 1314 | D:2 | Reached XP level 4. HP: 24/24 MP: 3/13 1329 | D:2 | Learned a level 4 spell: Sticky Flame 2115 | D:3 | Reached XP level 5. HP: 4/28 MP: 12/16 3230 | D:4 | Reached skill level 5 in Fire Magic 3539 | D:4 | Reached XP level 6. HP: 12/32 MP: 20/20 3757 | D:4 | Found a sparkling altar of Nemelex Xobeh. 4166 | D:4 | Reached skill level 5 in Spellcasting 4171 | D:4 | Learned a level 3 spell: Conjure Flame 4192 | D:4 | Got an opalescent robe 4198 | D:4 | Identified the +1 robe "Eblefecs" {Dex-3 Int+4 Dam-6} (You found it on level 4 of the Dungeon) 4759 | D:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon 4810 | D:5 | Reached XP level 7. HP: 36/36 MP: 21/22 4872 | D:5 | Noticed Pikel 4905 | D:5 | Killed Pikel 4905 | D:5 | Reached skill level 7 in Spellcasting 4905 | D:5 | Reached skill level 5 in Conjurations 5101 | D:5 | Noticed Grinder 5104 | D:5 | Paralysed by Grinder for 3 turns 5186 | D:4 | Learned a level 5 spell: Fireball 5363 | D:5 | Reached XP level 8. HP: 41/41 MP: 25/25 5571 | D:5 | Killed Grinder 5897 | D:5 | Found a glowing silver altar of Zin. 5983 | D:6 | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha. 6236 | D:6 | Reached skill level 8 in Spellcasting 6417 | D:6 | Found a white marble altar of Elyvilon. 6634 | D:6 | Noticed Crazy Yiuf 6648 | D:6 | Killed Crazy Yiuf 6743 | D:7 | Noticed Menkaure 6744 | D:7 | Killed Menkaure 6744 | D:7 | Reached skill level 9 in Spellcasting 6753 | D:7 | Reached XP level 9. HP: 39/45 MP: 15/28 6977 | D:7 | Found Asuerita's Book Boutique. 7029 | D:7 | Got a tattered robe 7038 | D:7 | Identified the +2 robe of Chuwab {Str+4 Dex+1} (You found it on level 7 of the Dungeon) 7530 | D:7 | Found a shattered altar of Ashenzari. 7753 | D:7 | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple. 7781 | D:7 | Reached skill level 10 in Spellcasting 7905 | Temple | Entered the Ecumenical Temple 7948 | Temple | Became a worshipper of Vehumet 8010 | D:7 | Found a shimmering altar of Xom. 8037 | D:7 | Found a blossoming altar of Fedhas. 8044 | D:7 | Found a sparkling altar of Nemelex Xobeh. 8728 | D:7 | Noticed an orc knight 8732 | D:7 | Killed an orc knight 8896 | D:7 | Noticed an orc knight 8914 | D:7 | Killed an orc knight 8914 | D:7 | Reached skill level 11 in Spellcasting 8914 | D:7 | Reached XP level 10. HP: 31/50 MP: 7/31 9063 | D:7 | Acquired Vehumet's first power 9063 | D:7 | Offered knowledge of Sting by Vehumet. 9243 | D:7 | Noticed an orc knight 9247 | D:7 | Noticed an orc knight 9274 | D:7 | Killed an orc knight 9274 | D:7 | Reached skill level 10 in Fire Magic 9403 | D:7 | Noticed an orc knight 9408 | D:7 | Killed an orc knight 9721 | D:7 | Reached skill level 10 in Conjurations 10367 | D:8 | Found a shimmering altar of Xom. 10476 | D:8 | Reached skill level 12 in Spellcasting 10510 | D:8 | Identified a scroll of acquirement 10682 | D:8 | Noticed Moogles' ghost (experienced MiFi) 10749 | D:8 | Killed Moogles' ghost 10881 | D:8 | Offered knowledge of Magic Dart by Vehumet. 10884 | D:8 | Learned a level 1 spell: Magic Dart 11542 | D:9 | Found Celumol's Book Emporium. 11550 | D:9 | Bought a book of Wizardry for 450 gold pieces 11563 | D:9 | Noticed an elephant 11563 | D:9 | Noticed an elephant 11563 | D:9 | Noticed an elephant 11567 | D:9 | Noticed an elephant 11569 | D:9 | Killed an elephant 11569 | D:9 | Reached XP level 11. HP: 54/54 MP: 33/33 11583 | D:9 | Killed an elephant 11592 | D:9 | Killed an elephant 11599 | D:9 | Killed an elephant 11730 | D:9 | Noticed an elephant 11730 | D:9 | Noticed an elephant 11756 | D:9 | Killed an elephant 11874 | D:9 | Found a staircase to the Lair. 11886 | D:9 | Killed an elephant 11886 | D:9 | Reached skill level 13 in Spellcasting 11974 | Lair:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts 12301 | Lair:1 | Offered knowledge of Searing Ray by Vehumet. 12444 | Lair:1 | Acquired Vehumet's second power 12450 | Lair:1 | Noticed a six-headed hydra 12451 | Lair:1 | Killed a six-headed hydra 12452 | Lair:1 | Noticed Fannar 12608 | Lair:1 | Found a frozen archway. 12833 | Lair:1 | Noticed Nergalle 12837 | Lair:1 | Killed Nergalle 13058 | Lair:1 | Killed Fannar 13356 | Lair:1 | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging 13475 | Lair:1 | Paralysed by you for 5 turns 13680 | Lair:2 | Offered knowledge of Iskenderun's Mystic Blast by Vehumet. 13686 | Lair:2 | Learned a level 4 spell: Iskenderun's Mystic Blast 13699 | Lair:2 | Reached skill level 14 in Spellcasting 13836 | Lair:2 | Reached XP level 12. HP: 55/59 MP: 35/35 14135 | Lair:2 | Noticed Harold 14139 | Lair:2 | Killed Harold 14447 | Lair:2 | Acquired Vehumet's third power 14541 | Lair:2 | Learned a level 2 spell: Repel Missiles 14544 | Lair:2 | Learned a level 2 spell: Blink 15396 | Lair:3 | Learned a level 1 spell: Apportation 15399 | Lair:3 | Learned a level 2 spell: Call Imp 15533 | Lair:3 | Offered knowledge of Airstrike by Vehumet. 16048 | Lair:4 | Noticed a six-headed hydra 16050 | Lair:4 | Killed a six-headed hydra 16050 | Lair:4 | Reached skill level 15 in Spellcasting 16397 | Lair:5 | Offered knowledge of Olgreb's Toxic Radiance by Vehumet. 17306 | Lair:1 | Learned a level 6 spell: Haste 17825 | Lair:6 | Reached skill level 1 in Charms 17825 | Lair:6 | Reached XP level 13. HP: 55/63 MP: 24/37 17865 | Lair:6 | Found a dark tunnel. 17874 | Volcano | Entered a volcano 18523 | Lair:6 | Found a hole to the Spider Nest. 19097 | Lair:6 | Offered knowledge of Conjure Ball Lightning by Vehumet. 19134 | Lair:6 | Found a staircase to the Swamp. 19581 | D:9 | Noticed an elephant 19583 | D:9 | Killed an elephant 19708 | D:9 | Reached skill level 5 in Charms 19814 | D:9 | Noticed an elephant 19816 | D:9 | Killed an elephant 20229 | D:10 | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon 21377 | D:7 | Killed an orc knight 22429 | D:11 | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines. 22979 | D:11 | Reached skill level 10 in Charms 23140 | D:11 | Offered knowledge of Lightning Bolt by Vehumet. 24138 | D:12 | Identified Sif Muna's Catalogue of Protection and Feathers 24769 | Lair:1 | Upgraded the game from 0.13-a0-2641-gc68e7bd to 0.13-a0-2643-gffe6e9f 25173 | D:13 | Found a snail-covered altar of Cheibriados. 25501 | D:13 | Found a white marble altar of Elyvilon. 25518 | D:13 | Reached skill level 16 in Spellcasting 26477 | Orc:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Orcish Mines 26890 | Orc:2 | Offered knowledge of Bolt of Fire by Vehumet. 26919 | Orc:1 | Learned a level 6 spell: Bolt of Fire 27663 | Orc:1 | Found a flagged portal. 27674 | Bailey | Entered a bailey 27816 | Bailey | Gained mutation: You tend to lose your temper in combat. [mutagenic glow] 28254 | Orc:2 | Reached XP level 14. HP: 68/68 MP: 38/38 29083 | Orc:3 | Found a staircase to the Elven Halls. 29083 | Orc:3 | Noticed an orc warlord 29212 | Orc:3 | Found Xoqed's Gadget Emporium. 29213 | Orc:3 | Offered knowledge of Poison Arrow by Vehumet. 29217 | Orc:3 | Noticed Nessos 29220 | Orc:3 | Killed Nessos 29624 | Orc:3 | Killed an orc warlord 30270 | Orc:3 | Upgraded the game from 0.13-a0-2643-gffe6e9f to 0.13-a0-2648-g56e3d78 30628 | Lair:7 | Reached skill level 1 in Staves 31594 | Lair:7 | Offered knowledge of Delayed Fireball by Vehumet. 32141 | Lair:1 | Learned a level 7 spell: Delayed Fireball 32293 | Lair:8 | Entered Level 8 of the Lair of Beasts 32638 | Lair:8 | Found a staircase to the Slime Pits. 32786 | Lair:8 | Reached skill level 17 in Spellcasting 33369 | Lair:8 | Reached skill level 15 in Conjurations 33915 | Lair:8 | Found a burning altar of Makhleb. 34432 | Lair:8 | Reached skill level 15 in Fire Magic 34456 | Lair:8 | Found a gateway to Hell. 34469 | Lair:8 | Got a pair of dazzling gloves 34534 | Lair:8 | Reached XP level 15. HP: 72/72 MP: 29/39 34680 | Lair:1 | Identified the +1 pair of gloves "Gheho" {Str+1 Int-4} (You found it on level 8 of the Lair of Beasts) 34813 | D:13 | Offered knowledge of Iron Shot by Vehumet. 34854 | D:14 | Entered Level 14 of the Dungeon 34952 | D:14 | Noticed Roxanne 35859 | Lair:1 | Reached skill level 18 in Spellcasting 35859 | Lair:1 | Reached XP level 16. HP: 76/81 MP: 41/41 35880 | Lair:1 | Learned a level 9 spell: Fire Storm 36056 | D:15 | Entered Level 15 of the Dungeon 36662 | D:15 | Found a basalt altar of Yredelemnul. 36974 | D:15 | Reached skill level 10 in Dodging 37720 | D:16 | Reached skill level 1 in Evocations 38080 | D:16 | Found a staircase to the Vaults. 38168 | D:16 | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting 38679 | D:16 | Noticed Urug 38696 | D:16 | Killed Urug 39629 | D:17 | Offered knowledge of Shatter by Vehumet. 39629 | D:17 | Offered knowledge of Chain Lightning by Vehumet. 39629 | D:17 | Offered knowledge of Tornado by Vehumet. 39774 | D:17 | Noticed Snorg 39787 | D:17 | Killed Snorg 40508 | D:18 | Reached skill level 5 in Evocations 40680 | D:18 | Noticed Mara 40979 | D:19 | Reached skill level 19 in Spellcasting 41325 | D:19 | Got an ancient graven amulet 41326 | D:19 | Identified the amulet "Zeng" {rCorr Hunger +Blink Str-5 Dam+4} (You found it on level 19 of the Dungeon) 41456 | D:19 | Found Edirorir's Demolitions Depot. 42420 | D:19 | Reached XP level 17. HP: 84/93 MP: 12/42 42647 | D:20 | Entered Level 20 of the Dungeon 45733 | D:7 | Bought a book of Alchemy for 1050 gold pieces 45821 | Lair:1 | Learned a level 5 spell: Ignite Poison 45937 | Spider:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Spider Nest 49500 | Spider:3 | Noticed Nikola 49501 | Spider:3 | Upgraded the game from 0.13-a0-2648-g56e3d78 to 0.13-a0-2657-gc1edc70 49513 | Spider:3 | Killed Nikola 49669 | Spider:3 | Reached skill level 20 in Spellcasting 51543 | Swamp:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Swamp 54159 | Swamp:2 | Reached XP level 18. HP: 100/100 MP: 33/43 54518 | Swamp:2 | Noticed Kirke 55367 | Swamp:2 | Killed Kirke 56528 | Swamp:3 | Identified the Reference Book on Noxious Slavery 56872 | Swamp:3 | Reached skill level 5 in Stealth 58627 | Swamp:4 | Noticed Frances 58630 | Swamp:4 | Killed Frances 58976 | Swamp:4 | Noticed Wiglaf 59592 | Swamp:4 | Killed Wiglaf Action | 1- 3 | 4- 6 | 7- 9 | 10-12 | 13-15 | 16-18 || total -------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------++------- Melee: Short sword | | 8 | | | | || 8 Unarmed | | | 12 | 3 | | || 15 Staff | | | | 9 | 2 | 4 || 15 Fire: Blowgun | | 68 | 4 | | | || 72 Throw: Dagger | 31 | 1 | | | | || 32 Stone | 27 | | | | | || 27 Dart | 2 | | | | | || 2 Spear | | 1 | | | | || 1 Cast: Flame Tongue | 51 | 75 | 110 | 81 | 36 | 24 || 377 Throw Flame | 6 | 29 | 68 | 147 | 84 | 14 || 348 Sticky Flame | | 4 | 33 | 47 | 32 | 33 || 149 Conjure Flame | | 1 | 7 | 13 | | || 21 Fireball | | | 16 | 199 | 528 | 425 || 1168 Magic Dart | | | | 10 | | || 10 Iskenderun's Myst | | | | 3 | 40 | 49 || 92 Call Imp | | | | 1 | 25 | 15 || 41 Haste | | | | | 34 | 35 || 69 Apportation | | | | | 1 | || 1 Repel Missiles | | | | | 2 | 17 || 19 Delayed Fireball | | | | | 3 | 8 || 11 Blink | | | | | 1 | 1 || 2 Bolt of Fire | | | | | | 345 || 345 Ignite Poison | | | | | | 141 || 141 Abil: Release Delayed F | | | | | 2 | 9 || 11 Evoke: Wand | | | 5 | 6 | 10 | 2 || 23 Miscellaneous | | | | | | 2 || 2 Use: Scroll | | 13 | 2 | 14 | 16 | 15 || 60 Potion | | | | 2 | 2 | 6 || 10

Saturday, 10th August 2013, 10:25 by Amnesiac

You can complete ocrs(don't forget to check all stairs) then it's ok to do elfs 1-2, but be careful and use all your available buffs, repel should be cast all the time, because there are a lot of archers. But don't touch elf:3 because it's really, really easy to die there. If you meet socrerers, annihilators and death mages consider going out of their LoS immediately. Swamp 5 shouldn't be so hard if you are near stairs at all times. For spiders SInv is a must, because there are ghost moths there and you should kill them super fast because they drain your mana. Probably getting your fire storm online asap is a good idea, so I would turn off everything(including spellcasting), except fire and conj. Actually from that point everything seems quite dangerous and you don't have powerful silent spells. Bolt of fire is kind of ok, though, you should use it over fireball as it produces less noise. Completing swamp seems the easiest, but after that you need to be careful with ranged attackers. If you've seen a buckler, equip it, it doesn't get in the way of spellcasting and at 5 shields skill it doesn't get in the way of anything but gives some defence. If you cast fire storm run from there as all monsters from the level may gather there, because it's so noisy.

Saturday, 10th August 2013, 10:28 by zugundertherug

orc 4 should be a breeze for you barring the stone giant/cyclops/ettin ending, do that next. If you do get the stone giant/cyclops/ettin ending that would be a good time to use an invis pot.

edit: also after orc 4 neither swamp nor spider should be difficult since you've got ignite poison. Just beware of ghost moths on spider 5 (another good place to quaff invis since they can't drain mana if you're invis).

Saturday, 10th August 2013, 10:55 by delarado

Yeah I've got invisibility detection, I tend to wait until I see something in the log about an invis monster and then put the ring on. Are there that many ghost moths on spider:5 that its a problem?

I did elf:3 on my MiBe winning game, its the worst thing I ever did! Got sent to the abyss and had to revisit so many times, it took me about two hours to finish that level, I kept going back thinking "this will be easy now I must of killed them all nearly" But noooooo...theres still 1000 angry elfs waiting for me there!

I want to get fire storm online ASAP, I can get it down to 22% failure rate at the moment with various wizardry enhancers but the hunger cost is huge. Hopefully by the time my fire/conjurations hit 18 (Which shouldnt be too long) I can cast it fairly freely with my ring of wizardry.

I know its extremely loud though, so will avoid unless I have to or there are a LOT of enemies on screen at the time. I have been using bolt of fire now instead of fireball as it doesnt have a hunger cost and does more damage. Fireball is still useful for high EV enemies though, mosquitos and the like that tend to avoid bolt of fire.

I'll look into the stone giant ending, thanks. Failing that maybe spider, although I am worried about going for runes before I've completed everything that I can, I did that on an MiBe before and died horribly! (Although I was XL15 and on snake pit I think...)

Saturday, 10th August 2013, 12:19 by delarado

So, Orc:4 done (What a breeze!) and Spider:5 (Not such a breeze, had to invoke two emergency teleports to get me away from a chasing emperor scorpion with a draining moth there too; It happened twice, two tiny closed vaults that as soon as you break into LOS you are next to a demonic crawler, emperor scorpion and draining moth)

So I have the gossamer rune! \o/

Ignite poison really does make spider a joke. Just the emperor scorpions make it tricky.

Fire storm isnt far off now, I can get the fail rate down to 13% now with a ring of wizardry and int+4, so could probably start using it if I wanted to. Good idea? Im currently rolling with my ring of fire and ring of magical power for more MP.

For fire storm I can either use my staff of wizardry and my int+4 ring, or my staff of energy and my ring of wizardry & INT+4 ring (Which gives me hungerless casting, which is good as I'm running lower on food now, only 4 bread rations and 3 pieces of ambrosia left)

Im thinking of doing the hungerless route and just swapping out utility rings as and when I need (I have robes for magic resistance, life protection, rF+ and rC+ so the only utility rings I need are very specific in sustain abilities or see invis)

I also found Donald's shield of reflection, which I'm looking forward to using on Roxanne; Although I'm not sure its a good idea (Seeing as one crystal spear could potentially one shot me if it gets past my shield and RMSL)

At the end of Orc:4 I found TWO staffs of earth. Not one, but two. GIVE ME A STAFF OF FIRE YOU SILLY GAME!

I now have SIX staffs
Staff of Energy
Staff of Wizardry
Staff of Wizardry
Staff of Power
Staff of Earth
Staff of Earth

I also got a Fire dragon hide from Xtahua, I guess FDA is not relevant for a DEFE?

Code:: Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.13-a0-2657-gc1edc70 (webtiles) character file. Delarado the Sorcerer (Deep Elf Fire Elementalist) Turns: 69991, Time: 07:55:57 HP 100/108 AC 8 Str 9 XL: 19 Next: 27% MP 44/44 EV 18 Int 25 God: Vehumet [******] Gold 3508 SH 0 Dex 15 Spells: 15 memorised, 8 levels left Res.Fire : + . . See Invis. : + I - staff of energy Res.Cold : . . . Warding : + O - +2 elf robe {rC+} Life Prot.: + . . Conserve : . (no shield) Res.Poison: . Res.Corr. : . (no helmet) Res.Elec. : . Clarity : . o - +1 cloak Sust.Abil.: . . Spirit.Shd : . a - +0 pair of gloves Res.Mut. : . Stasis : . J - +0 pair of boots Res.Rott. : . Flight : . n - amulet of warding Saprovore : . . . R - ring of fire e - ring of see invisible @: delayed fireball, drained, quite resistant to hostile enchantments, very stealthy A: berserk 1 a: Renounce Religion, Release Delayed Fireball }: 1/15 runes: gossamer You are on level 1 of the Lair of Beasts. You worship Vehumet. Vehumet is exalted by your worship. You are not hungry. You have visited 6 branches of the dungeon, and seen 42 of its levels. You have also visited: Bailey and Volcano. You have collected 4988 gold pieces. You have spent 1500 gold pieces at shops. Inventory: Armour a - a +0 pair of gloves (worn) h - a fire dragon hide {Xtahua} i - a +2 robe of fire resistance j - a +0 shield of reflection o - a +1 cloak (worn) J - a +0 pair of boots (worn) O - a +2 elven robe of cold resistance (worn) Magical devices v - a wand of heal wounds {recharged} P - a wand of digging {zapped: 3} X - a wand of teleportation {zapped: 1} Comestibles g - 4 bread rations t - 3 pieces of ambrosia Scrolls q - 3 scrolls of magic mapping w - 2 scrolls of recharging {recharging} y - 4 scrolls of remove curse z - 2 scrolls of teleportation A - 8 scrolls of identify C - 2 scrolls of fog D - 3 scrolls of blinking L - 3 scrolls of fear Jewellery e - a ring of see invisible (left hand) n - an amulet of warding (around neck) B - an uncursed ring of magical power G - an uncursed ring of protection from magic N - an uncursed ring of poison resistance R - a ring of fire (right hand) Potions b - 2 potions of agility f - a potion of heal wounds l - 2 potions of magic m - 2 potions of restore abilities s - 4 potions of speed M - 2 potions of brilliance U - a potion of resistance W - 2 potions of invisibility Magical staves p - an uncursed staff of wizardry I - an uncursed staff of energy (weapon) Skills: - Level 10.0(9.7) Fighting - Level 2.2(1.9) Staves - Level 10.0(9.7) Dodging - Level 8.0(7.7) Stealth - Level 21.0(20.6) Spellcasting + Level 18.0(17.6) Conjurations - Level 11.0(10.7) Charms + Level 18.0(17.6) Fire Magic - Level 8.2(7.9) Evocations You have 8 spell levels left. You know the following spells: Your Spells Type Power Failure Level Hunger a - Flame Tongue Conj/Fire ##### 0% 1 None b - Throw Flame Conj/Fire ###### 0% 2 None c - Ignite Poison Fire/Trmt #######... 1% 5 None d - Sticky Flame Conj/Fire ######## 0% 4 None e - Fireball Conj/Fire ########.. 1% 5 None f - Magic Dart Conj #### 0% 1 None g - Iskenderun's Mystic Conj #######. 0% 4 None h - Repel Missiles Chrm/Air ######.... 1% 2 None i - Blink Tloc N/A 2% 2 None j - Apportation Tloc ####...... 1% 1 None k - Call Imp Summ ####...... 2% 2 None l - Haste Chrm ######.. 3% 6 None m - Bolt of Fire Conj/Fire ########.. 1% 6 None n - Delayed Fireball Conj/Fire N/A 1% 7 None o - Fire Storm Conj/Fire ########.. 41% 9 None Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations Branches: Dungeon (20/27) Temple (1/1) D:7 Orc (4/4) D:11 Elf (0/3) Orc:2 Orc:3 Lair (8/8) D:9 Swamp (4/5) Lair:6 Spider (5/5) Lair:6 Slime (0/6) Lair:8 Vaults (0/5) D:16 Altars: Ashenzari Cheibriados Elyvilon Fedhas Kikubaaqudgha Makhleb Nemelex Xobeh Okawaru Sif Muna Trog Vehumet Xom Yredelemnul Zin the Shining One Beogh Shops: D:7: + D:9: + D:19: * Orc:3: } Orc:4: *[(+ Portals: Hell: Lair:8 Annotations D:12 exclusion: silver statue D:14 exclusion: Roxanne, Roxanne D:18 Mara Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations You tend to lose your temper in combat. Message History Items here: ///////////////// Drop what? (_ for help) (? for menu, Esc to quit) You drop a wand of draining {zapped: 1}. Items here: ??????????????? Drop what? (_ for help) (? for menu, Esc to quit) You drop 4 scrolls of enchant armour. Okay, then. Items here: "" ============ Items here: ((( )) |||| Items here: :::::::::::::: Drop what? (_ for help) (? for menu, Esc to quit) You drop a book of the Warp. You drop a book of Fire. (D) Dungeon (T) Temple (O) Orcish Mines (E) Elven Halls (L) Lair (S) Swamp (N) Spider Nest (M) Slime Pits (V) Vaults (U) Hell Where to? (* - list waypoints, Enter - Lair:1 @ (x,y), ? - help) Okay, then. Char dumped successfully. 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Vanquished Creatures Saint Roka (Orc:4) Xtahua (Spider:5) Nikola (Spider:3) Frances (Swamp:4) Kirke (Swamp:2) Donald (Orc:4) Wiglaf (Swamp:4) 4 orc warlords 4 ghost moths 5 emperor scorpions (Spider:5) A dire elephant (Lair:8) Snorg (D:17) 2 ogre magi Fannar (Lair:1) Harold (Lair:2) Josephine (Orc:4) 2 yaktaur captains 12 hydras 8 alligators Nessos (Orc:3) The ghost of Moogles the Bludgeoner, an experienced MiFi of Okawaru (D:8) 5 death yaks (Lair:8) Urug (D:16) A sun demon (Lair:8) An orc high priest (Orc:4) Nergalle (Lair:1) 10 centaur warriors A very ugly thing (D:20) Erolcha (Orc:4) A flayed ghost (D:20) A swamp dragon (Swamp:4) 8 unseen horrors A wizard (Lair:8) A giant amoeba (D:16) Pikel (D:5) 10 hill giants 3 harpies (D:19) 18 wolf spiders A shining eye (shapeshifter) (D:13) A sphinx zombie (D:19) 12 orc sorcerers 3 griffons 11 red wasps 22 orc knights 2 stone giant zombies A moth of wrath (Spider:5) A sphinx skeleton (D:19) A stone giant skeleton (D:18) 9 cyclopes 21 elephants Maurice (Orc:4) 4 black mambas An eye of devastation (D:13) A fire giant skeleton (D:20) An orange demon (Lair:8) A queen ant (Spider:1) 24 spiny frogs 2 moths of suppression (Spider:5) 2 fire drakes (Lair:8) 19 demonic crawlers A smoke demon (Lair:8) 5 yaktaurs 5 komodo dragons 8 hellwings (Lair:8) An iron troll skeleton (D:20) A red devil (Lair:8) Grinder (D:5) 8 two-headed ogres 9 trolls 24 jumping spiders 9 giant leeches A hydra skeleton (D:11) 13 blink frogs 16 orb spiders 2 boulder beetles 48 slime creatures A grizzly bear (shapeshifter) (D:20) 2 griffon zombies 2 baby alligators (Swamp:2) 13 bog bodies A grizzly bear (Lair:2) An ettin zombie (D:19) 4 shadows A dragon skeleton (D:13) 5 basilisks 17 tarantellas 59 ugly things 29 redbacks 3 wyverns A griffon skeleton (D:10) 3 toenail golems (Volcano) 26 trapdoor spiders 66 yaks 5 wolves (Lair:7) An elephant slug (Lair:6) 3 hogs (Swamp:2) 14 hippogriffs 3 wraiths A deep elf fighter (D:9) A clay golem (D:20) 3 manticores 4 hungry ghosts 3 hill giant skeletons A hippogriff (shapeshifter) (D:20) 39 swamp worms A manticore (shapeshifter) (D:20) 3 mottled dragons Menkaure (D:7) A necrophage (D:9) 52 vampire mosquitoes An orange crystal statue (Swamp:1) 4 porcupines 70 orc warriors 4 soldier ants (Spider:1) 10 swamp drakes A slave (D:5) 11 giant goldfish 2 yellow wasps 4 ice beasts 19 ogres A black bear (Lair:2) 4 humans (Volcano) 4 sky beasts A phantom (D:7) 11 centaurs A brain worm (D:17) 27 wargs 4 big kobolds 19 giant frogs A rotting devil (Lair:8) 22 water moccasins A boring beetle (Spider:1) 7 giant slugs 11 crocodiles A giant slug zombie (D:16) A wyvern zombie (D:12) 22 insubstantial wisps 7 agate snails 2 wyvern skeletons A cyclops skeleton (D:13) A boulder beetle zombie (D:17) An eye of draining (D:17) A troll zombie (D:12) A yak zombie (D:15) 13 killer bees 16 electric eels 2 troll skeletons 9 goliath beetles 10 jellyfish 2 pulsating lumps (Lair:8) 13 crimson imps 25 spiders A gnoll shaman (D:5) A centaur zombie (D:7) 3 giant frog zombies 13 iguanas 11 hounds A warg zombie (Orc:3) Crazy Yiuf (D:6) 29 orc priests A shapeshifter simulacrum (D:16) A two-headed ogre zombie (D:8) A water moccasin skeleton (Lair:8) 28 worker ants 51 orc wizards 8 big fish 5 scorpions 28 sheep A brain worm zombie (D:16) A crocodile zombie (D:8) Jessica (D:2) A big kobold zombie (D:11) 6 jellies A big kobold skeleton (D:15) 11 gnolls 71 green rats 24 adders A shadow imp (D:12) 7 giant centipedes 2 worms A scorpion zombie (D:7) An iguana zombie (D:7) 4 orc skeletons 10 giant geckos An ooze (D:2) 275 orcs 35 bats 5 giant cockroaches 29 goblins 21 hobgoblins 20 jackals 32 kobolds 12 quokkas 4 ball pythons 2 giant newts 2 giant spores (D:9) 2 goblin skeletons (Orc:4) A hobgoblin zombie (D:7) A jackal skeleton (D:6) An orc simulacrum (Orc:4) 4 orc zombies (Orc:3) 17 rats A bush (Lair:1) 10 fungi 11 plants 1959 creatures vanquished. Vanquished Creatures (collateral kills) A human (Volcano) A komodo dragon (Lair:7) A jellyfish (Lair:7) 4 big fish (Lair:7) 7 creatures vanquished. Vanquished Creatures (others) A rakshasa (D:12) A sixfirhy (D:12) A neqoxec (D:12) An ogre (D:5) A hound (D:5) 7 crimson imps A lemure (D:12) A shadow imp (D:18) 7 white imps 2 orcs (D:7) A giant cockroach (D:5) A human (Volcano) 4 fungi 4 plants (Lair:8) 33 creatures vanquished. Grand Total: 1999 creatures vanquished Notes Turn | Place | Note -------------------------------------------------------------- 0 | D:1 | Delarado, the Deep Elf Fire Elementalist, began the quest for the Orb. 0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 1. HP: 10/10 MP: 4/4 178 | D:1 | Reached XP level 2. HP: 15/15 MP: 7/7 241 | D:1 | Learned a level 2 spell: Throw Flame 847 | D:2 | Noticed Jessica 851 | D:2 | Killed Jessica 851 | D:2 | Reached XP level 3. HP: 19/19 MP: 10/10 896 | D:2 | Reached skill level 4 in Fire Magic 1314 | D:2 | Reached XP level 4. HP: 24/24 MP: 3/13 1329 | D:2 | Learned a level 4 spell: Sticky Flame 2115 | D:3 | Reached XP level 5. HP: 4/28 MP: 12/16 3230 | D:4 | Reached skill level 5 in Fire Magic 3539 | D:4 | Reached XP level 6. HP: 12/32 MP: 20/20 3757 | D:4 | Found a sparkling altar of Nemelex Xobeh. 4166 | D:4 | Reached skill level 5 in Spellcasting 4171 | D:4 | Learned a level 3 spell: Conjure Flame 4192 | D:4 | Got an opalescent robe 4198 | D:4 | Identified the +1 robe "Eblefecs" {Dex-3 Int+4 Dam-6} (You found it on level 4 of the Dungeon) 4759 | D:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon 4810 | D:5 | Reached XP level 7. HP: 36/36 MP: 21/22 4872 | D:5 | Noticed Pikel 4905 | D:5 | Killed Pikel 4905 | D:5 | Reached skill level 7 in Spellcasting 4905 | D:5 | Reached skill level 5 in Conjurations 5101 | D:5 | Noticed Grinder 5104 | D:5 | Paralysed by Grinder for 3 turns 5186 | D:4 | Learned a level 5 spell: Fireball 5363 | D:5 | Reached XP level 8. HP: 41/41 MP: 25/25 5571 | D:5 | Killed Grinder 5897 | D:5 | Found a glowing silver altar of Zin. 5983 | D:6 | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha. 6236 | D:6 | Reached skill level 8 in Spellcasting 6417 | D:6 | Found a white marble altar of Elyvilon. 6634 | D:6 | Noticed Crazy Yiuf 6648 | D:6 | Killed Crazy Yiuf 6743 | D:7 | Noticed Menkaure 6744 | D:7 | Killed Menkaure 6744 | D:7 | Reached skill level 9 in Spellcasting 6753 | D:7 | Reached XP level 9. HP: 39/45 MP: 15/28 6977 | D:7 | Found Asuerita's Book Boutique. 7029 | D:7 | Got a tattered robe 7038 | D:7 | Identified the +2 robe of Chuwab {Str+4 Dex+1} (You found it on level 7 of the Dungeon) 7530 | D:7 | Found a shattered altar of Ashenzari. 7753 | D:7 | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple. 7781 | D:7 | Reached skill level 10 in Spellcasting 7905 | Temple | Entered the Ecumenical Temple 7948 | Temple | Became a worshipper of Vehumet 8010 | D:7 | Found a shimmering altar of Xom. 8037 | D:7 | Found a blossoming altar of Fedhas. 8044 | D:7 | Found a sparkling altar of Nemelex Xobeh. 8728 | D:7 | Noticed an orc knight 8732 | D:7 | Killed an orc knight 8896 | D:7 | Noticed an orc knight 8914 | D:7 | Killed an orc knight 8914 | D:7 | Reached skill level 11 in Spellcasting 8914 | D:7 | Reached XP level 10. HP: 31/50 MP: 7/31 9063 | D:7 | Acquired Vehumet's first power 9063 | D:7 | Offered knowledge of Sting by Vehumet. 9243 | D:7 | Noticed an orc knight 9247 | D:7 | Noticed an orc knight 9274 | D:7 | Killed an orc knight 9274 | D:7 | Reached skill level 10 in Fire Magic 9403 | D:7 | Noticed an orc knight 9408 | D:7 | Killed an orc knight 9721 | D:7 | Reached skill level 10 in Conjurations 10367 | D:8 | Found a shimmering altar of Xom. 10476 | D:8 | Reached skill level 12 in Spellcasting 10510 | D:8 | Identified a scroll of acquirement 10682 | D:8 | Noticed Moogles' ghost (experienced MiFi) 10749 | D:8 | Killed Moogles' ghost 10881 | D:8 | Offered knowledge of Magic Dart by Vehumet. 10884 | D:8 | Learned a level 1 spell: Magic Dart 11542 | D:9 | Found Celumol's Book Emporium. 11550 | D:9 | Bought a book of Wizardry for 450 gold pieces 11563 | D:9 | Noticed an elephant 11563 | D:9 | Noticed an elephant 11563 | D:9 | Noticed an elephant 11567 | D:9 | Noticed an elephant 11569 | D:9 | Killed an elephant 11569 | D:9 | Reached XP level 11. HP: 54/54 MP: 33/33 11583 | D:9 | Killed an elephant 11592 | D:9 | Killed an elephant 11599 | D:9 | Killed an elephant 11730 | D:9 | Noticed an elephant 11730 | D:9 | Noticed an elephant 11756 | D:9 | Killed an elephant 11874 | D:9 | Found a staircase to the Lair. 11886 | D:9 | Killed an elephant 11886 | D:9 | Reached skill level 13 in Spellcasting 11974 | Lair:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts 12301 | Lair:1 | Offered knowledge of Searing Ray by Vehumet. 12444 | Lair:1 | Acquired Vehumet's second power 12450 | Lair:1 | Noticed a six-headed hydra 12451 | Lair:1 | Killed a six-headed hydra 12452 | Lair:1 | Noticed Fannar 12608 | Lair:1 | Found a frozen archway. 12833 | Lair:1 | Noticed Nergalle 12837 | Lair:1 | Killed Nergalle 13058 | Lair:1 | Killed Fannar 13356 | Lair:1 | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging 13475 | Lair:1 | Paralysed by you for 5 turns 13680 | Lair:2 | Offered knowledge of Iskenderun's Mystic Blast by Vehumet. 13686 | Lair:2 | Learned a level 4 spell: Iskenderun's Mystic Blast 13699 | Lair:2 | Reached skill level 14 in Spellcasting 13836 | Lair:2 | Reached XP level 12. HP: 55/59 MP: 35/35 14135 | Lair:2 | Noticed Harold 14139 | Lair:2 | Killed Harold 14447 | Lair:2 | Acquired Vehumet's third power 14541 | Lair:2 | Learned a level 2 spell: Repel Missiles 14544 | Lair:2 | Learned a level 2 spell: Blink 15396 | Lair:3 | Learned a level 1 spell: Apportation 15399 | Lair:3 | Learned a level 2 spell: Call Imp 15533 | Lair:3 | Offered knowledge of Airstrike by Vehumet. 16048 | Lair:4 | Noticed a six-headed hydra 16050 | Lair:4 | Killed a six-headed hydra 16050 | Lair:4 | Reached skill level 15 in Spellcasting 16397 | Lair:5 | Offered knowledge of Olgreb's Toxic Radiance by Vehumet. 17306 | Lair:1 | Learned a level 6 spell: Haste 17825 | Lair:6 | Reached skill level 1 in Charms 17825 | Lair:6 | Reached XP level 13. HP: 55/63 MP: 24/37 17865 | Lair:6 | Found a dark tunnel. 17874 | Volcano | Entered a volcano 18523 | Lair:6 | Found a hole to the Spider Nest. 19097 | Lair:6 | Offered knowledge of Conjure Ball Lightning by Vehumet. 19134 | Lair:6 | Found a staircase to the Swamp. 19581 | D:9 | Noticed an elephant 19583 | D:9 | Killed an elephant 19708 | D:9 | Reached skill level 5 in Charms 19814 | D:9 | Noticed an elephant 19816 | D:9 | Killed an elephant 20229 | D:10 | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon 21377 | D:7 | Killed an orc knight 22429 | D:11 | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines. 22979 | D:11 | Reached skill level 10 in Charms 23140 | D:11 | Offered knowledge of Lightning Bolt by Vehumet. 24138 | D:12 | Identified Sif Muna's Catalogue of Protection and Feathers 24769 | Lair:1 | Upgraded the game from 0.13-a0-2641-gc68e7bd to 0.13-a0-2643-gffe6e9f 25173 | D:13 | Found a snail-covered altar of Cheibriados. 25501 | D:13 | Found a white marble altar of Elyvilon. 25518 | D:13 | Reached skill level 16 in Spellcasting 26477 | Orc:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Orcish Mines 26890 | Orc:2 | Offered knowledge of Bolt of Fire by Vehumet. 26919 | Orc:1 | Learned a level 6 spell: Bolt of Fire 27663 | Orc:1 | Found a flagged portal. 27674 | Bailey | Entered a bailey 27816 | Bailey | Gained mutation: You tend to lose your temper in combat. [mutagenic glow] 28254 | Orc:2 | Reached XP level 14. HP: 68/68 MP: 38/38 29083 | Orc:3 | Found a staircase to the Elven Halls. 29083 | Orc:3 | Noticed an orc warlord 29212 | Orc:3 | Found Xoqed's Gadget Emporium. 29213 | Orc:3 | Offered knowledge of Poison Arrow by Vehumet. 29217 | Orc:3 | Noticed Nessos 29220 | Orc:3 | Killed Nessos 29624 | Orc:3 | Killed an orc warlord 30270 | Orc:3 | Upgraded the game from 0.13-a0-2643-gffe6e9f to 0.13-a0-2648-g56e3d78 30628 | Lair:7 | Reached skill level 1 in Staves 31594 | Lair:7 | Offered knowledge of Delayed Fireball by Vehumet. 32141 | Lair:1 | Learned a level 7 spell: Delayed Fireball 32293 | Lair:8 | Entered Level 8 of the Lair of Beasts 32638 | Lair:8 | Found a staircase to the Slime Pits. 32786 | Lair:8 | Reached skill level 17 in Spellcasting 33369 | Lair:8 | Reached skill level 15 in Conjurations 33915 | Lair:8 | Found a burning altar of Makhleb. 34432 | Lair:8 | Reached skill level 15 in Fire Magic 34456 | Lair:8 | Found a gateway to Hell. 34469 | Lair:8 | Got a pair of dazzling gloves 34534 | Lair:8 | Reached XP level 15. HP: 72/72 MP: 29/39 34680 | Lair:1 | Identified the +1 pair of gloves "Gheho" {Str+1 Int-4} (You found it on level 8 of the Lair of Beasts) 34813 | D:13 | Offered knowledge of Iron Shot by Vehumet. 34854 | D:14 | Entered Level 14 of the Dungeon 34952 | D:14 | Noticed Roxanne 35859 | Lair:1 | Reached skill level 18 in Spellcasting 35859 | Lair:1 | Reached XP level 16. HP: 76/81 MP: 41/41 35880 | Lair:1 | Learned a level 9 spell: Fire Storm 36056 | D:15 | Entered Level 15 of the Dungeon 36662 | D:15 | Found a basalt altar of Yredelemnul. 36974 | D:15 | Reached skill level 10 in Dodging 37720 | D:16 | Reached skill level 1 in Evocations 38080 | D:16 | Found a staircase to the Vaults. 38168 | D:16 | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting 38679 | D:16 | Noticed Urug 38696 | D:16 | Killed Urug 39629 | D:17 | Offered knowledge of Shatter by Vehumet. 39629 | D:17 | Offered knowledge of Chain Lightning by Vehumet. 39629 | D:17 | Offered knowledge of Tornado by Vehumet. 39774 | D:17 | Noticed Snorg 39787 | D:17 | Killed Snorg 40508 | D:18 | Reached skill level 5 in Evocations 40680 | D:18 | Noticed Mara 40979 | D:19 | Reached skill level 19 in Spellcasting 41325 | D:19 | Got an ancient graven amulet 41326 | D:19 | Identified the amulet "Zeng" {rCorr Hunger +Blink Str-5 Dam+4} (You found it on level 19 of the Dungeon) 41456 | D:19 | Found Edirorir's Demolitions Depot. 42420 | D:19 | Reached XP level 17. HP: 84/93 MP: 12/42 42647 | D:20 | Entered Level 20 of the Dungeon 45733 | D:7 | Bought a book of Alchemy for 1050 gold pieces 45821 | Lair:1 | Learned a level 5 spell: Ignite Poison 45937 | Spider:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Spider Nest 49500 | Spider:3 | Noticed Nikola 49501 | Spider:3 | Upgraded the game from 0.13-a0-2648-g56e3d78 to 0.13-a0-2657-gc1edc70 49513 | Spider:3 | Killed Nikola 49669 | Spider:3 | Reached skill level 20 in Spellcasting 51543 | Swamp:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Swamp 54159 | Swamp:2 | Reached XP level 18. HP: 100/100 MP: 33/43 54518 | Swamp:2 | Noticed Kirke 55367 | Swamp:2 | Killed Kirke 56528 | Swamp:3 | Identified the Reference Book on Noxious Slavery 56872 | Swamp:3 | Reached skill level 5 in Stealth 58627 | Swamp:4 | Noticed Frances 58630 | Swamp:4 | Killed Frances 58976 | Swamp:4 | Noticed Wiglaf 59592 | Swamp:4 | Killed Wiglaf 60534 | Orc:4 | Entered Level 4 of the Orcish Mines 60966 | Orc:4 | Noticed Donald 60969 | Orc:4 | Killed Donald 62199 | Orc:4 | Noticed Erolcha 62200 | Orc:4 | Killed Erolcha 63035 | Orc:4 | Noticed Saint Roka 63042 | Orc:4 | Killed Saint Roka 63591 | Orc:4 | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh. 63715 | Orc:4 | Found Awuj's General Store. 63731 | Orc:4 | Found Segg's Book Boutique. 63814 | Orc:4 | Found Fotradauza's Antique Armour Boutique. 63848 | Orc:4 | Found Ske Haoll's Antique Weapon Boutique. 64126 | Orc:4 | Noticed Maurice 64169 | Orc:4 | Killed Maurice 64255 | Orc:4 | Noticed Josephine 64256 | Orc:4 | Killed Josephine 64639 | Orc:4 | Reached skill level 21 in Spellcasting 65846 | Spider:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Spider Nest 65955 | Spider:5 | Noticed Xtahua 66021 | Spider:5 | Killed Xtahua 67214 | Spider:5 | Reached XP level 19. HP: 108/108 MP: 32/44 67713 | Spider:5 | Reached skill level 10 in Fighting 68681 | Spider:5 | HP: 5/108 [poisoned by an emperor scorpion] 69700 | Spider:5 | Got a gossamer rune of Zot Action | 1- 3 | 4- 6 | 7- 9 | 10-12 | 13-15 | 16-18 | 19-21 || total -------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------++------- Melee: Short sword | | 8 | | | | | || 8 Unarmed | | | 12 | 3 | | | || 15 Staff | | | | 9 | 2 | 4 | 1 || 16 Fire: Blowgun | | 68 | 4 | | | | || 72 Throw: Dagger | 31 | 1 | | | | | || 32 Stone | 27 | | | | | | || 27 Dart | 2 | | | | | | || 2 Spear | | 1 | | | | | || 1 Cast: Flame Tongue | 51 | 75 | 110 | 81 | 36 | 24 | || 377 Throw Flame | 6 | 29 | 68 | 147 | 84 | 14 | || 348 Sticky Flame | | 4 | 33 | 47 | 32 | 36 | 2 || 154 Conjure Flame | | 1 | 7 | 13 | | | || 21 Fireball | | | 16 | 199 | 528 | 508 | 3 || 1254 Magic Dart | | | | 10 | | | || 10 Iskenderun's Myst | | | | 3 | 40 | 59 | || 102 Call Imp | | | | 1 | 25 | 15 | || 41 Haste | | | | | 34 | 44 | 2 || 80 Apportation | | | | | 1 | | || 1 Repel Missiles | | | | | 2 | 26 | || 28 Delayed Fireball | | | | | 3 | 11 | || 14 Blink | | | | | 1 | 5 | 2 || 8 Bolt of Fire | | | | | | 503 | 32 || 535 Ignite Poison | | | | | | 176 | 59 || 235 Abil: Release Delayed F | | | | | 2 | 11 | || 13 Evoke: Wand | | | 5 | 6 | 10 | 2 | 1 || 24 Miscellaneous | | | | | | 2 | || 2 Use: Scroll | | 13 | 2 | 14 | 16 | 17 | 2 || 64 Potion | | | | 2 | 2 | 6 | 7 || 17

Saturday, 10th August 2013, 15:57 by Amnesiac

Leave roxanne alone or clear the level, then fire storm her from out of LoS, otherwise things might well end not well. You can wear FDA or IDA if you train armour or more magic, just put it on and see whant happens to your failure rate and you must not have vulnerabilities, obviously. I see you still don't wear a buckler, did you not find one? Seeing you have had some problems with scorpion emperors, did you forget to cast haste?

Saturday, 10th August 2013, 16:10 by delarado

I tend not to keep haste up at all times, because of the hunger cost of being hasted (As opposed to the cast cost)

When you step around a corner to see the scorpion, moth and crawler, you caste haste and then have no MP. You can only run so far without running into a web, then three or so turns and your in trouble!

Ill have a look for a buckler. Donalds shield of reflection did things to me that I don't like though (Spell success) and it seems you can only train shields when you have one equipped...

EDIT: A buckler doesnt hurt my casting as much though, so I'll use one and train some shields skill

Saturday, 10th August 2013, 16:19 by Amnesiac

While wearing a 0 penalty amour you need 0.85 is shields skill to remove casting penalty, but having 5 might get you some blocks. Later you might find a buckler with resistances, so it always useful to be able to wear a buckler at least. Fortunately, you can wield a staff with it, I always loved that.