Should my CeHu dump heavy armor?


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Shoals Surfer

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Post Sunday, 21st July 2013, 05:43

Should my CeHu dump heavy armor?

I am running a standard heavy armor Oka hunter (ver .11) and I pick up a book of air. Aside from the fact that I should dump this guy and go to the newest version, should I drop heavy armor for shock, swiftness (!), and repel missiles?

Also, I am kinda just running skills on auto, any tips there?
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 Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.11.0 (tiles) character file.

Clomper the Archer (Centaur Hunter)                 Turns: 8718, Time: 00:32:45

HP  73/73        AC 11     Str 15      XL: 9   Next: 65%
MP   6/6         EV  5     Int 13      God: Okawaru [****..]
Gold 200         SH  0     Dex 10      Spells:  0 memorised,  8 levels left

Res.Fire  : . . .   See Invis. : .   a - +0,+1 short sword
Res.Cold  : . . .   Warding    : +   J - +0 orc chain mail
Life Prot.: + . .   Conserve   : .   (no shield)
Res.Poison: .       Res.Corr.  : .   N - +1 dwarf helmet
Res.Elec. : .       Clarity    : .   (no cloak)
Sust.Abil.: . .     Spirit.Shd : .   j - +0 pair of gauntlets
Res.Mut.  : .       Stasis     : .   (no barding)
Res.Rott. : .       Ctrl.Telep.: .   k - amulet of warding
Saprovore : . . .   Levitation : .   L - small granite ring {tried}
                    Ctrl.Flight: .   D - scratched bronze ring {tried}

@: very quick, slightly resistant to hostile enchantments, extremely unstealthy
A: hooves 3, deformed body, herbivore 1, speed 2, fast metabolism 1, tough skin
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a: Heroism, Renounce Religion


You are on level 8 of the Dungeon.
You worship Okawaru.
Okawaru is extremely pleased with you.
You are not hungry.

You have visited 2 branches of the dungeon, and seen 9 of its levels.

You have collected 456 gold pieces.
You have spent 276 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Hand weapons
 a - a +0,+1 short sword (weapon)
 b - a +1,+1 bow
Missiles
 c - 25 arrows
 A - 6 javelins (quivered)
 M - 3 arrows of frost {god gift}
 O - 26 arrows of flame
Armour
 j - a +0 pair of gauntlets (worn)
 J - a +0 orcish chain mail (worn)
 N - a +1 dwarven helmet (worn)
Comestibles
 d - a royal jelly
 f - 10 bread rations
 o - 6 meat rations
Scrolls
 i - 4 scrolls of enchant weapon II
 l - a scroll of magic mapping
 p - a scroll of teleportation
 q - a scroll of blinking
 t - 2 scrolls of remove curse
 u - a scroll of enchant armour
 w - a scroll of amnesia
 y - a scroll of fog
 z - a scroll of fear
Jewellery
 h - an uncursed ring of magical power
 k - an amulet of warding (around neck)
 D - a scratched bronze ring (left hand) {tried}
 E - an uncursed ring of teleportation
 L - a small granite ring (right hand) {tried}
Potions
 e - 2 potions of curing
 g - a white potion
 n - an oily cyan potion
 r - 2 inky potions
 s - a potion of invisibility
 v - 3 potions of heal wounds
 x - 2 potions of restore abilities
 B - an oily pink potion
 G - 2 potions of might
 K - a murky yellow potion
Books
 m - a book of Unlife   
   
   Spells                             Type                      Level
   Recall                             Summoning/Translocation      3
   Animate Dead                       Necromancy                   4
   Control Undead                     Necromancy                   4
   Twisted Resurrection               Necromancy                   5
   Death Channel                      Necromancy                   6
   Simulacrum                         Ice/Necromancy               6
 C - a book of Air   
   
   Spells                             Type                      Level
   Shock                              Conjuration/Air              1
   Swiftness                          Charms/Air                   2
   Repel Missiles                     Charms/Air                   2
   Flight                             Charms/Air                   3
   Static Discharge                   Conjuration/Air              3
   Lightning Bolt                     Conjuration/Air              5
 H - a book of the Tempests   
   
   Spells                             Type                      Level
   Static Discharge                   Conjuration/Air              3
   Lightning Bolt                     Conjuration/Air              5
   Fireball                           Conjuration/Fire             5
   Tornado                            Air                          9
   Shatter                            Earth                        9


   Skills:
 + Level 6.4 Fighting
 - Level 0.2 Short Blades
 + Level 10.5 Bows
 + Level 5.2 Armour
 + Level 5.1 Dodging
 - Level 0.6 Stealth
 - Level 0.5 Traps & Doors
 - Level 0.1 Unarmed Combat


You have 8 spell levels left.
You don't know any spells.

Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (8/27)             Temple (1/1) D:4         
   Orc: D:6-11        Lair: D:8-13     

Altars:
Ashenzari
Cheibriados
Elyvilon
Fedhas
Kikubaaqudgha
Makhleb
Nemelex Xobeh
Okawaru
Sif Muna
Trog
Vehumet
Xom
Yredelemnul
Zin
the Shining One

Shops:
D:4: ?!?[(


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You have hooves in place of feet.
Armour fits poorly on your strangely shaped body.
You digest meat inefficiently.
You cover ground very quickly.
You have a fast metabolism.
You have extremely tough skin (AC +3).
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Post Sunday, 21st July 2013, 06:00

Re: Should my CeHu dump heavy armor?

You should keep heavy armour and learn swiftness and repel missiles. Shock will be almost useless. If memorization failure is 100%, take off your armour, memorize the spells (I don't remember but you may need multiple attempts in 0.11 - just do it with no enemies around, and then start training them whenever you want later).

I'd train only Bows until 15 or 20, then get 5 invocations/11 armour, some charms/air, 22 bows / 12-14 melee skill depending what weapons you've found.
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Shoals Surfer

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Joined: Thursday, 9th June 2011, 19:12

Post Sunday, 21st July 2013, 22:25

Re: Should my CeHu dump heavy armor?

Ok, next question. I am running out of arrows and I am debating a good backup weapon (balancing speed and damge). I have a war axe of chopping, a battle axe of venom, flaming axe or sword, or +5 hand axe of venom lying around, but there are probably any variety of swords there too.

The question is what weapon is a good balance of damage and low training requirements for a backup weapon?

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Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.11.0 (tiles) character file.

Clomper the Crack Shot (Centaur Hunter)            Turns: 32388, Time: 02:24:29

HP 107/122       AC 34     Str 19      XL: 16   Next: 51%
MP  25/25        EV  3     Int 18      God: Okawaru [******]
Gold 1291        SH  0     Dex 11      Spells:  2 memorised, 15 levels left

Res.Fire  : + . .   See Invis. : +   R - +3 longbow (flame)
Res.Cold  : . . .   Warding    : .   k - +2 orc plate armour {rF+}
Life Prot.: . . .   Conserve   : .   (no shield)
Res.Poison: +       Res.Corr.  : .   t - +1 dwarf helmet {Int+3}
Res.Elec. : .       Clarity    : .   V - +2 elf cloak {darkness} {god gift}
Sust.Abil.: . .     Spirit.Shd : .   j - +2 pair of dwarf gloves {Str+3} {god gift}
Res.Mut.  : .       Stasis     : .   f - +1 centaur barding {Lev}
Res.Rott. : .       Ctrl.Telep.: .   i - amulet "Tughuenoy" {Faith SInv}
Saprovore : . . .   Levitation : .   L - ring of protection from magic
                    Ctrl.Flight: .   n - ring of poison resistance

@: very quick, quite resistant to hostile enchantments, extremely unstealthy
A: hooves 3, deformed body, herbivore 1, speed 2, fast metabolism 1, tough skin
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a: Heroism, Finesse, Renounce Religion, Evoke Invisibility, Evoke Levitation


You are on level 16 of the Dungeon.
You worship Okawaru.
Okawaru is exalted by your worship.
You are hungry.

You have visited 3 branches of the dungeon, and seen 25 of its levels.
You have also visited: Volcano.

You have collected 1820 gold pieces.
You have spent 549 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Hand weapons
 J - the dagger "Sean" {stab, +Lev rElec rC+}
   (You found it on level 4 of the Lair of Beasts)   
   
   It inflicts extra damage upon your enemies.
   
   It protects you from cold.
   It insulates you from electricity.
   It lets you levitate.
 R - a +3,+3 longbow of flame (weapon)
Missiles
 b - 30 poisoned arrows
 s - 49 arrows of dispersal {god gift}
 F - 14 arrows
 M - 46 arrows of frost
 O - 15 arrows of flame (quivered)
Armour
 f - a +1 centaur barding of levitation (worn)
 j - a +2 pair of dwarven gloves of strength (worn) {god gift}
 k - a +2 orcish plate armour of fire resistance (worn)
 t - a +1 dwarven helmet of intelligence (worn)
 V - a +2 elven cloak of darkness (worn) {god gift}
Magical devices
 a - a wand of flame
 h - a wand of invisibility {zapped: 2}
 m - a wand of draining {zapped: 1}
 u - a wand of lightning {zapped: 7}
 E - a wand of digging
 Q - a wand of teleportation (5)
Comestibles
 A - 2 apples
 C - 6 bread rations
 I - 2 rotting chunks of griffon flesh
Scrolls
 c - a scroll of teleportation
 g - 8 scrolls of remove curse
 l - 2 scrolls of magic mapping
 w - 2 scrolls of identify
 z - 2 scrolls of fear
 H - 2 scrolls of fog
 P - 2 scrolls of enchant weapon II
 X - a scroll of blinking
Jewellery
 d - a ring of magical power
 i - the amulet "Tughuenoy" (around neck) {Faith SInv}
   (You found it on level 1 of the Lair of Beasts)   
   
   [amulet of faith]
   
   It enhances your eyesight.
 n - a ring of poison resistance (left hand)
 L - a ring of protection from magic (right hand)
Potions
 e - a potion of berserk rage
 p - a potion of resistance
 q - a potion of magic
 r - 2 potions of levitation
 v - 5 potions of heal wounds
 x - 2 potions of restore abilities
 B - 3 potions of brilliance
 G - 3 potions of might
 K - a potion of agility
 U - 8 potions of curing
Books
 o - a paperback book


   Skills:
 - Level 6.4 Fighting
 - Level 0.2 Short Blades
 + Level 23.9 Bows
 + Level 15.1 Armour
 - Level 5.1 Dodging
 - Level 0.6 Stealth
 - Level 0.5 Traps & Doors
 - Level 0.1 Unarmed Combat
 - Level 2.2 Spellcasting
 - Level 2.8 Charms
 - Level 2.7 Air Magic
 - Level 8.5 Invocations
 - Level 4.5 Evocations


You have 15 spell levels left.
You know the following spells:

 Your Spells              Type           Power        Failure   Level  Hunger
a - Repel Missiles        Chrm/Air       ###.......   97%         2    ##.....
b - Swiftness             Chrm/Air       ###.......   97%         2    ##.....


Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (16/27)            Temple (1/1) D:4             Orc (0/4) D:8
   Lair (8/8) D:13         Shoals (0/5) Lair:5       Spider (0/5) Lair:3
  Slime (0/6) Lair:7     
Vaults: D:14-19     

Altars:
Ashenzari
Cheibriados
Elyvilon
Fedhas
Kikubaaqudgha
Makhleb
Nemelex Xobeh
Okawaru
Sif Muna
Trog
Vehumet
Xom
Yredelemnul
Zin
the Shining One

Shops:
D:4: ?!?[(  D:13: [  D:15: (

Portals:
Hell: D:14

Annotations
D:15 exclusions: silver statue and 4 statues


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You have hooves in place of feet.
Armour fits poorly on your strangely shaped body.
You digest meat inefficiently.
You cover ground very quickly.
You have a fast metabolism.
You have extremely tough skin (AC +3).

Shoals Surfer

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Joined: Thursday, 9th June 2011, 19:12

Post Sunday, 21st July 2013, 22:27

Re: Should my CeHu dump heavy armor?

Nikola just told me I could have his electic saber if I could pry it from his cold, dead hands. I took him up on it.

Shoals Surfer

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Joined: Thursday, 9th June 2011, 19:12

Post Sunday, 21st July 2013, 22:31

Re: Should my CeHu dump heavy armor?

Ok, who did this?

There is a stone staircase leading down here.
You climb downwards.
An eye of draining, a kobold, 19 humans and a large zombie come into view.
The human shouts! Donald shouts! The human shouts! The human shouts! The human shouts! The human shouts! The human shouts! The human shouts! Rupert shouts!
The eye of draining turns its gaze towards you.
The human shouts!
The kobold shouts!
Found a helmet and 2 scrolls of identify.
Found a stone staircase leading up, a staircase to the Vaults and a stone staircase leading down.
There is a stone staircase leading up here.

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You can see Rupert, Donald, an eye of draining, a cyclops zombie, 17 humans and
a kobold.
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Joined: Monday, 18th March 2013, 23:23

Post Monday, 22nd July 2013, 07:07

Re: Should my CeHu dump heavy armor?

That happens to be one of the Vaults entrance vaults. If it makes you feel any better the last time I saw it Norris and Wiglaf were there.

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