YASD HaAs of Trog.

Tuesday, 16th July 2013, 15:52 by Sandman25

I have wandering Psyche one space away from me.
What would you do?
1) Quaff speed and escape
2) Try to stab (I am not sure I can one-shot her), quaffing speed for escape
3) Try to stab (I am not sure I can one-shot her), quaffing berserk to finish her
4) Try to stab (I am not sure I can one-shot her), meleeing her to finish
5) Retreat hoping she would not notice you
6) Quaff speed and combine it with option 2 or 3
7) Something else.

I was lucky to find potion of experience and wand of healing early so I really don't want to lose the character.

Code:: Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.13-a0-2398-gfa67c8a (tiles) character file. HaAss the Covert (Halfling Assassin) Turns: 8342, Time: 00:52:18 HP 65/65 AC 10 Str 8 XL: 10 Next: 4% MP 9/9 EV 17 Int 11 God: Trog [***...] Gold 427 SH 0 Dex 22 Spells: 0 memorised, 9 levels left Res.Fire : . . . See Invis. : . a - +2,+3 dagger {=f} Res.Cold : + . . Warding : . c - +0 robe Life Prot.: . . . Conserve : . (no shield) Res.Poison: . Res.Corr. : . t - +0 helmet (curse) Res.Elec. : . Clarity : . d - +0 cloak Sust.Abil.: . . Spirit.Shd : . (no gloves) Res.Mut. : . Stasis : . o - +2 pair of dwarf boots Res.Rott. : . Flight : . (no amulet) Saprovore : . . . p - +3 ring of protection j - ring of protection from cold @: somewhat resistant to hostile enchantments, extraordinarily stealthy A: mutation resistance 1, slow metabolism 1 a: Burn Spellbooks, Berserk, Trog's Hand, Renounce Religion You are on level 8 of the Dungeon. You worship Trog. Trog is greatly pleased with you. You are not hungry. You have visited 2 branches of the dungeon, and seen 9 of its levels. You have also visited: Sewer. You have collected 377 gold pieces. Inventory: Hand weapons a - a +2,+3 dagger (weapon) {=f} b - a +0 blowgun F - an uncursed sling Missiles e - 53 poisoned needles k - 78 darts (quivered) r - 61 stones A - 2 exploding darts E - 9 sling bullets I - 4 darts of dispersal Armour c - a +0 robe (worn) d - a +0 cloak (worn) o - a +2 pair of dwarven boots (worn) t - a cursed +0 helmet (worn) Magical devices m - a wand of flame {zapped: 9} v - a wand of slowing {zapped: 1} C - a wand of heal wounds {recharged} Comestibles g - 5 bread rations h - a meat ration l - a royal jelly {!e} w - a sultana D - 2 apples K - a choko N - 3 chunks of orc flesh Scrolls n - 6 scrolls of teleportation x - a scroll of fear y - 7 scrolls of remove curse z - a scroll of fog L - a scroll labeled AQU HUOKOSIFAE M - 2 scrolls of magic mapping Jewellery j - a ring of protection from cold (left hand) p - a +3 ring of protection (right hand) s - an uncursed ring of fire u - an uncursed ring of protection from magic J - a +3 ring of intelligence Potions f - a yellow potion i - a potion of restore abilities q - 7 potions of curing B - 3 potions of heal wounds G - 2 potions of speed H - a potion of resistance Skills: - Level 7,0 Fighting - Level 10,7 Short Blades - Level 2,6 Throwing + Level 3,7 Dodging - Level 13,8 Stealth You have 9 spell levels left. You don't know any spells. Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations Branches: Dungeon (8/27) Temple (1/1) D:5 Orc: D:6-11 Lair: D:8-13 Altars: Ashenzari Cheibriados Elyvilon Fedhas Kikubaaqudgha Makhleb Nemelex Xobeh Okawaru Sif Muna Trog Vehumet Xom Yredelemnul Zin the Shining One Shops: D:5: * Annotations D:2 exclusion: 2 gnolls D:3 Crazy Yiuf D:6 exclusion: centaur D:8 Psyche Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations You are small and have problems with some larger weapons. You are somewhat resistant to further mutation. You have a slow metabolism. Message History The orc priest is heavily wounded. You hit the orc priest. The orc priest is almost dead. The orc priest misses you. You hit the orc priest but do no damage. The orc priest is almost dead. You barely miss the orc priest. The orc priest is almost dead. The orc priest barely misses you. You completely miss the orc priest. The orc priest is almost dead. You hit the orc priest. You kill the orc priest! Trog accepts your kill. Things that are here: an orcish club; an orc corpse You finish chopping the orc corpse into pieces. You can't pick everything up without burdening yourself. N - 3 chunks of orc flesh Things that are here: an orc skeleton; an orcish club; a chunk of orc flesh Eating a chunk of orc flesh. This raw flesh tastes terrible. 2 orcs and Psyche come into view. The orc moves out of view. Found a stone staircase leading up. HP restored. There is a stone staircase leading down here. A kobold comes into view. It is wielding a dwarven dagger. The kobold hits you but does no damage. You hit the kobold but do no damage. The kobold hits you but does no damage. You hit the kobold but do no damage. You hit the kobold. The kobold is moderately wounded. The kobold closely misses you. You hit the kobold but do no damage. The kobold is moderately wounded. You hit the kobold but do no damage. The kobold is moderately wounded. The kobold hits you but does no damage. You closely miss the kobold. The kobold is moderately wounded. You hit the kobold. The kobold is severely wounded. The kobold closely misses you. You hit the kobold. You kill the kobold! Trog accepts your kill. k - 78 darts (gained 4) Things that are here: a dwarven dagger; an orcish robe; a kobold corpse The kobold corpse is consumed in a column of flame. Found an escape hatch in the ceiling. A giant frog comes into view. The helpless giant frog fails to defend itself. You skewer the giant frog like a kebab!!!!! You kill the giant frog! Trog accepts your kill. You see here a giant frog corpse. The giant frog corpse is consumed in a column of flame. Found a potion of poison. There is a stone staircase leading up here. You climb upwards. There is a stone staircase leading down here. You climb downwards. Level annotation: Psyche There is a stone staircase leading up here. Found an apple. D - 2 apples (gained 1) There is a stone staircase leading up here. An orc comes into view. It is wielding an orcish trident. There is a stone staircase leading up here. Throwing (i - inventory. (,) - cycle): k - 78 darts (quivered) Press: ? - help, Shift-Dir - straight line, f - orc Aim: an orc, wielding an orcish trident You throw a dart. The dart hits the orc. The orc is moderately wounded. The orc misses you. The orc hits you but does no damage. You hit the orc. The orc is heavily wounded. You slash the orc! You kill the orc! Trog accepts your kill. You hit the orc. The orc is severely wounded. You hit the orc. You kill the orc! Trog accepts your kill. k - 78 darts (gained 1) Things that are here: a glowing orcish mace; an orc corpse; an orcish trident; an orc corpse The orc corpse is consumed in a column of flame. The orc corpse is slowly consumed by flames. Saving game... please wait. Level annotation: Psyche Welcome back, HaAss the Halfling Assassin. Trog says: Kill them all! Press ? for a list of commands and other information. Psyche is too close now for your liking. 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Vanquished Creatures A feature mimic (D:7) A hungry ghost (D:7) Edmund (D:5) A soldier ant (D:7) A black bear (D:7) An orc warrior (D:8) 2 phantoms 3 ogres 2 big kobolds (Sewer) A giant frog (D:8) A hippogriff zombie (D:7) A hippogriff skeleton (D:5) 3 wights (D:8) A goliath beetle (D:6) 5 crimson imps 2 centaur zombies A quasit (D:6) A hound (D:8) 4 orc priests A giant frog skeleton (D:5) 3 orc wizards 3 scorpions An iguana (D:8) 2 worker ants Ijyb (D:2) A jelly (D:6) 8 adders 6 green rats An inept item mimic (D:2) 2 giant mites An inept feature mimic (D:3) 3 worms A grey rat (Sewer) 2 giant eyeballs A giant gecko (D:4) 18 orcs 3 ball pythons 6 giant cockroaches 10 hobgoblins 16 jackals 6 quokkas 7 bats 5 giant newts A giant spore (D:8) 7 goblins 22 kobolds An orc skeleton (D:7) 17 rats A rat skeleton (D:4) 2 ballistomycetes (D:8) 192 creatures vanquished. Vanquished Creatures (others) A kobold (D:2) A giant newt (D:1) 2 creatures vanquished. Grand Total: 194 creatures vanquished Notes Turn | Place | Note -------------------------------------------------------------- 0 | D:1 | HaAss, the Halfling Assassin, began the quest for the Orb. 0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 1. HP: 13/13 MP: 0/0 493 | D:1 | Reached XP level 2. HP: 18/18 MP: 1/1 1011 | D:2 | Huge Dmg: 4 dmg 1015 | D:2 | Huge Dmg: 4 dmg 1018 | D:2 | Reached XP level 3. HP: 6/23 MP: 2/2 1021 | D:2 | Reached skill level 7 in Fighting 1021 | D:2 | Reached skill level 10 in Short Blades 1021 | D:2 | Reached XP level 4. HP: 7/31 MP: 3/3 1332 | D:2 | Noticed Ijyb 1777 | D:2 | Huge Dmg: 7 dmg 1781 | D:2 | Huge Dmg: 6 dmg 1784 | D:2 | Killed Ijyb 1784 | D:2 | Reached XP level 5. HP: 13/36 MP: 4/4 2947 | D:3 | Noticed Crazy Yiuf 3135 | D:4 | Reached XP level 6. HP: 43/43 MP: 5/5 3372 | D:4 | Huge Dmg: 9 dmg 3484 | D:4 | Huge Dmg: 7 dmg 3499 | D:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon 3513 | D:5 | Found Ylanitalu's General Store. 3659 | D:5 | Noticed Edmund 3762 | D:5 | Huge Dmg: 8 dmg 3803 | D:5 | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple. 3814 | Temple | Entered the Ecumenical Temple 3858 | Temple | Became a worshipper of Trog the Wrathful 3887 | D:5 | Reached XP level 7. HP: 46/48 MP: 6/6 3925 | D:5 | Found a glowing drain. 3951 | Sewer | Entered a sewer 4187 | Sewer | Acquired Trog's first power 4735 | D:5 | Huge Dmg: 15 dmg 4955 | D:5 | Killed Edmund 4955 | D:5 | Reached XP level 8. HP: 54/54 MP: 7/7 5221 | D:4 | Noticed an ogre 5231 | D:4 | Killed an ogre 5303 | D:4 | Noticed an ogre 5325 | D:4 | Killed an ogre 5937 | D:6 | Found a radiant altar of Vehumet. 5950 | D:6 | Acquired Trog's second power 6062 | D:6 | Huge Dmg: 14 dmg 6349 | D:6 | Reached skill level 10 in Stealth 6648 | D:6 | Huge Dmg: 27 dmg 6888 | D:7 | Reached skill level 11 in Stealth 6888 | D:7 | Reached XP level 9. HP: 52/59 MP: 8/8 6902 | D:7 | Found a deep blue altar of Sif Muna. 6911 | D:7 | Found a shimmering altar of Xom. 6911 | D:7 | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha. 7203 | D:7 | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 3 turns 7292 | D:7 | Reached skill level 12 in Stealth 7697 | D:7 | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines. 7698 | D:7 | the staircase to the Orcish Mines was a mimic. 7711 | D:7 | Killed a staircase mimic 7711 | D:7 | Reached skill level 13 in Stealth 7716 | D:7 | Huge Dmg: 25 dmg 7949 | D:8 | Huge Dmg: 29 dmg 8046 | D:8 | Reached XP level 10. HP: 65/65 MP: 9/9 8167 | D:8 | Noticed Psyche Action | 1- 3 | 4- 6 | 7- 9 | 10-12 || total -------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------++------- Melee: Dagger | 66 | 254 | 481 | 31 || 832 Fire: Blowgun | | 10 | 75 | || 85 Sling | | | 11 | || 11 Throw: Dart | | 15 | 21 | 1 || 37 Invok: Berserk | | | 3 | || 3 Evoke: Wand | | 2 | 4 | || 6 Use: Scroll | 2 | 13 | 8 | || 23 Potion | 1 | 2 | 4 | || 7 Stab: Sleeping | 10 | 12 | 18 | 2 || 42 Distracted | | 1 | 2 | || 3

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Tuesday, 16th July 2013, 16:08 by Amnesiac

If I were you, I would go for it, even if it's unwise(gotta love the thrill). Almost sure that even lower skill would be enough to kill in 1 stab. In practice, though, it's always best to retreat if you can, if you are not sure.

Tuesday, 16th July 2013, 16:22 by mopl

I was looking for your stab skill... and forgot you play 0.13 !
I would also go for the kill : my vote is option 3 =)

Tuesday, 16th July 2013, 16:59 by Sandman25

I am a risky player too so I followed your advices.
I tried to stab her but she noticed me when I was adjacent so I berserked. Got hit twice (poisoned and drained), I was lucky not to get cast into Abyss. Now I have dagger of chaos and +2 robe of MR. I will not use the dagger though, I hate being shafted.

Tuesday, 16th July 2013, 17:08 by Amnesiac

Dagger of chaos is an interesting option for a stabber as it has an ok % to either paralyze or confuse or petrify so I often use it if I have no other way to make the target stabbable. It often makes the target invisible, though, so SInv is good. And it can make it go berserk of polymorph you or it(snail to a hydra or something like that is possible). It also has a chance to banish somebody who has something you want.

Tuesday, 16th July 2013, 17:46 by mopl

Amnesiac wrote:It also has a chance to banish somebody who has something you want.

But unlike distortion weapon it allows easy swap in this case

Tuesday, 16th July 2013, 17:55 by Sandman25

I don't understand why I was paralysed. What happened?
Damn, that was a very lucky start with potion of EXP, wand of heal wounds and wand of tele.

Code:: Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.13-a0-2398-gfa67c8a (tiles) character file. 8036 HaAss the Covert (level 11, -2/71 HPs) Began as a Halfling Assassin on July 15, 2013. Was an Elder of Trog. Slain by a giant goldfish (6 damage) ... while paralysed ... on Level 11 of the Dungeon on July 16, 2013. The game lasted 01:26:34 (13269 turns). HaAss the Covert (Halfling Assassin) Turns: 13269, Time: 01:26:34 HP -2/71 AC 12 Str 8 XL: 11 Next: 43% MP 10/10 EV 3 Int 11 God: Trog [****..] Gold 248 SH 0 Dex 22 Spells: 0 memorised, 10 levels left Res.Fire : . . . See Invis. : . a - +2 dagger {=f} Res.Cold : . . . Warding : . O - +2 robe {MR+} Life Prot.: . . . Conserve : . (no shield) Res.Poison: . Res.Corr. : . t - +0 helmet (curse) Res.Elec. : . Clarity : . d - +0 cloak Sust.Abil.: . . Spirit.Shd : . (no gloves) Res.Mut. : . Stasis : . o - +2 pair of dwarf boots Res.Rott. : . Flight : . (no amulet) Saprovore : . . . p - +3 ring of protection v - +3 ring of evasion @: paralysed, exhausted, slowed, quite resistant to hostile enchantments, extraordinarily stealthy A: mutation resistance 1, slow metabolism 1 a: Burn Spellbooks, Berserk, Trog's Hand, Brothers in Arms, Renounce Religion You were on level 11 of the Dungeon. You worshipped Trog. Trog was extremely pleased with you. You were very hungry. You visited 2 branches of the dungeon, and saw 12 of its levels. You also visited: Sewer. You collected 486 gold pieces. You spent 288 gold pieces at shops. Inventory: Hand weapons a - a +2,+2 dagger (weapon) {=f} b - a +0 blowgun c - a +4,+4 dagger of chaos F - a +0,+0 sling Missiles e - 63 poisoned needles k - 28 darts (quivered) r - 31 stones A - 2 exploding darts E - 9 sling bullets I - 4 darts of dispersal P - 16 darts of frost S - 4 needles of confusion Armour d - a +0 cloak (worn) o - a +2 pair of dwarven boots (worn) t - a cursed +0 helmet (worn) O - a +2 robe of magic resistance (worn) Magical devices h - a wand of fire (7) m - a wand of flame (1) x - a wand of teleportation (6) C - a wand of heal wounds (5) L - a wand of frost (9) Comestibles f - a choko g - 6 bread rations l - a royal jelly {!e} w - a sultana D - 2 apples Q - 2 slices of pizza U - 2 meat rations Scrolls n - 5 scrolls of teleportation y - 7 scrolls of remove curse z - a scroll of fog M - 4 scrolls of magic mapping N - a scroll of amnesia {unknown} R - a scroll of fear T - 3 scrolls of identify Jewellery j - an uncursed ring of protection from cold p - a +3 ring of protection (right hand) s - an uncursed ring of fire u - an uncursed ring of protection from magic v - a +3 ring of evasion (left hand) J - a +3 ring of intelligence K - an uncursed ring of flight Potions i - a potion of restore abilities q - 8 potions of curing B - 3 potions of heal wounds G - 2 potions of speed H - a potion of resistance Skills: - Level 7,0 Fighting - Level 10,7 Short Blades - Level 2,6 Throwing - Level 11,2 Dodging - Level 14,3 Stealth + Level 1,6 Traps You had 10 spell levels left. You didn't know any spells. Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations Branches: Dungeon (11/27) Temple (1/1) D:5 Orc (0/4) D:11 Lair: D:8-13 Altars: Ashenzari Cheibriados Elyvilon Fedhas Kikubaaqudgha Makhleb Nemelex Xobeh Okawaru Sif Muna Trog Vehumet Xom Yredelemnul Zin the Shining One Shops: D:5: * D:8: / D:9: + Annotations D:2 exclusion: 2 gnolls D:3 Crazy Yiuf D:6 exclusion: centaur D:10 exclusion: 2 downstairs Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations You are small and have problems with some larger weapons. You are somewhat resistant to further mutation. You have a slow metabolism. Message History The big kobold is lightly wounded. You hit the big kobold. The big kobold is lightly wounded. The big kobold hits you but does no damage. You hit the big kobold. The big kobold is lightly wounded. You closely miss the big kobold. The big kobold is lightly wounded. The big kobold hits you but does no damage. You hit the big kobold. The big kobold is moderately wounded. You hit the big kobold but do no damage. The big kobold is moderately wounded. The big kobold completely misses you. You closely miss the big kobold. The big kobold is lightly wounded. You hit the big kobold. The big kobold is moderately wounded. The big kobold completely misses you. You hit the big kobold. The big kobold is moderately wounded. You closely miss the big kobold. The big kobold is moderately wounded. The big kobold completely misses you. You hit the big kobold. The big kobold is moderately wounded. You hit the big kobold. The big kobold is heavily wounded. The big kobold barely misses you. You completely miss the big kobold. The big kobold is heavily wounded. You hit the big kobold but do no damage. The big kobold is heavily wounded. The big kobold hits you but does no damage. You hit the big kobold but do no damage. The big kobold is heavily wounded. You hit the big kobold. The big kobold is heavily wounded. The big kobold hits you but does no damage. You hit the big kobold but do no damage. The big kobold is heavily wounded. A red film seems to cover your vision as you go berserk! You feel yourself moving faster! You feel mighty! You feel somewhat more hungry. The big kobold completely misses you. You barely miss the big kobold. The big kobold is heavily wounded. You hit the big kobold. The big kobold is severely wounded. The big kobold completely misses you. You are feeling hungry. You barely miss the big kobold. The big kobold is severely wounded. You puncture the big kobold! The big kobold is almost dead. You barely miss the big kobold. The big kobold is almost dead. The big kobold misses you. You slash the big kobold! You kill the big kobold! Trog accepts your kill. The kobold completely misses you. You see here a big kobold corpse. You hit the kobold. You kill the kobold! Trog accepts your kill. No target in view! You feel a strong urge to attack something. A kobold comes into view. The kobold shouts! You puncture the crimson imp! The crimson imp is heavily wounded. The crimson imp completely misses you. You barely miss the crimson imp. The crimson imp is heavily wounded. You barely miss the crimson imp. The crimson imp is heavily wounded. A hill giant comes into view. It is wielding a giant club. You puncture the crimson imp! The crimson imp is almost dead. The crimson imp hits you but does no damage. You closely miss the crimson imp. The crimson imp is almost dead. You barely miss the crimson imp. The crimson imp is almost dead. You closely miss the crimson imp. The crimson imp is almost dead. The crimson imp blinks! You are no longer berserk. You pass out from exhaustion. You feel yourself slow down. You are feeling very hungry. The giant goldfish bites you. The hill giant hits you with a giant club! * * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * * The giant goldfish bites you. * * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * * The crimson imp hits you but does no damage. 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Vanquished Creatures An unseen horror (D:10) 2 hill giants (D:10) A feature mimic (D:7) Psyche (D:8) 2 trolls A trapdoor spider (D:10) A yak (D:10) 2 wyverns 2 manticores (D:9) A hungry ghost (D:7) Edmund (D:5) A soldier ant (D:7) An ice beast (D:10) A black bear (D:7) 4 orc warriors 2 phantoms 5 ogres A sky beast (D:8) 2 centaurs A warg (D:10) 3 big kobolds 3 giant frogs 2 manticore zombies A cyclops skeleton (D:11) A hippogriff zombie (D:7) A hippogriff skeleton (D:5) 3 wights (D:8) A jellyfish (D:11) 3 goliath beetles 7 crimson imps 2 centaur zombies A quasit (D:6) 3 hounds 6 orc priests A giant frog skeleton (D:5) 6 orc wizards 5 scorpions 2 iguanas 5 worker ants 2 ogre skeletons Ijyb (D:2) 2 jellies 4 gnolls (D:8) 9 adders A giant centipede (D:11) 6 green rats An inept item mimic (D:2) 2 giant mites An inept feature mimic (D:3) 5 worms A grey rat (Sewer) 3 giant eyeballs A giant gecko (D:4) 34 orcs 3 ball pythons 6 giant cockroaches 11 hobgoblins 18 jackals 6 quokkas 11 bats 5 giant newts A giant spore (D:8) 7 goblins 24 kobolds An orc skeleton (D:7) 19 rats A rat skeleton (D:4) 2 ballistomycetes (D:8) 277 creatures vanquished. Vanquished Creatures (collateral kills) A sky beast (D:10) An ogre (D:10) 2 creatures vanquished. Vanquished Creatures (others) A kobold (D:2) A giant newt (D:1) 2 creatures vanquished. Grand Total: 281 creatures vanquished Notes Turn | Place | Note -------------------------------------------------------------- 0 | D:1 | HaAss, the Halfling Assassin, began the quest for the Orb. 0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 1. HP: 13/13 MP: 0/0 493 | D:1 | Reached XP level 2. HP: 18/18 MP: 1/1 1011 | D:2 | Huge Dmg: 4 dmg 1015 | D:2 | Huge Dmg: 4 dmg 1018 | D:2 | Reached XP level 3. HP: 6/23 MP: 2/2 1021 | D:2 | Reached skill level 7 in Fighting 1021 | D:2 | Reached skill level 10 in Short Blades 1021 | D:2 | Reached XP level 4. HP: 7/31 MP: 3/3 1332 | D:2 | Noticed Ijyb 1777 | D:2 | Huge Dmg: 7 dmg 1781 | D:2 | Huge Dmg: 6 dmg 1784 | D:2 | Killed Ijyb 1784 | D:2 | Reached XP level 5. HP: 13/36 MP: 4/4 2947 | D:3 | Noticed Crazy Yiuf 3135 | D:4 | Reached XP level 6. HP: 43/43 MP: 5/5 3372 | D:4 | Huge Dmg: 9 dmg 3484 | D:4 | Huge Dmg: 7 dmg 3499 | D:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon 3513 | D:5 | Found Ylanitalu's General Store. 3659 | D:5 | Noticed Edmund 3762 | D:5 | Huge Dmg: 8 dmg 3803 | D:5 | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple. 3814 | Temple | Entered the Ecumenical Temple 3858 | Temple | Became a worshipper of Trog the Wrathful 3887 | D:5 | Reached XP level 7. HP: 46/48 MP: 6/6 3925 | D:5 | Found a glowing drain. 3951 | Sewer | Entered a sewer 4187 | Sewer | Acquired Trog's first power 4735 | D:5 | Huge Dmg: 15 dmg 4955 | D:5 | Killed Edmund 4955 | D:5 | Reached XP level 8. HP: 54/54 MP: 7/7 5221 | D:4 | Noticed an ogre 5231 | D:4 | Killed an ogre 5303 | D:4 | Noticed an ogre 5325 | D:4 | Killed an ogre 5937 | D:6 | Found a radiant altar of Vehumet. 5950 | D:6 | Acquired Trog's second power 6062 | D:6 | Huge Dmg: 14 dmg 6349 | D:6 | Reached skill level 10 in Stealth 6648 | D:6 | Huge Dmg: 27 dmg 6888 | D:7 | Reached skill level 11 in Stealth 6888 | D:7 | Reached XP level 9. HP: 52/59 MP: 8/8 6902 | D:7 | Found a deep blue altar of Sif Muna. 6911 | D:7 | Found a shimmering altar of Xom. 6911 | D:7 | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha. 7203 | D:7 | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 3 turns 7292 | D:7 | Reached skill level 12 in Stealth 7697 | D:7 | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines. 7698 | D:7 | the staircase to the Orcish Mines was a mimic. 7711 | D:7 | Killed a staircase mimic 7711 | D:7 | Reached skill level 13 in Stealth 7716 | D:7 | Huge Dmg: 25 dmg 7949 | D:8 | Huge Dmg: 29 dmg 8046 | D:8 | Reached XP level 10. HP: 65/65 MP: 9/9 8167 | D:8 | Noticed Psyche 8358 | D:8 | Killed Psyche 8362 | D:8 | Huge Dmg: 30 dmg 8476 | D:8 | Found Nierinn's Magical Wand Shoppe. 8486 | D:8 | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging 8491 | D:8 | Bought a wand of teleportation (2) for 288 gold pieces 8543 | D:8 | Acquired Trog's third power 8692 | D:9 | Huge Dmg: 15 dmg 8701 | D:9 | Huge Dmg: 25 dmg 8772 | D:9 | Found Unyi's Book Boutique. 9059 | D:9 | Huge Dmg: 32 dmg 9884 | D:10 | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon 9981 | D:10 | Huge Dmg: 28 dmg 10426 | D:10 | Noticed a hill giant 10471 | D:10 | Huge Dmg: 27 dmg 10475 | D:10 | Killed a hill giant 10631 | D:10 | Huge Dmg: 20 dmg 10955 | D:10 | Killed an unseen horror 10955 | D:10 | Reached skill level 10 in Dodging 10955 | D:10 | Reached XP level 11. HP: 51/71 MP: 10/10 11170 | D:10 | Huge Dmg: 25 dmg 11459 | D:10 | Huge Dmg: 35 dmg 11546 | D:10 | Noticed a hill giant 11552 | D:10 | Killed a hill giant 11877 | D:11 | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines. 12193 | D:10 | Reached skill level 14 in Stealth 12232 | D:11 | Huge Dmg: 35 dmg 12346 | D:11 | Huge Dmg: 34 dmg 12481 | D:11 | Huge Dmg: 28 dmg 12659 | D:11 | Noticed a hill giant 12836 | D:11 | Reached skill level 1 in Traps 13263 | D:11 | Noticed a hill giant 13269 | D:11 | Slain by a giant goldfish Action | 1- 3 | 4- 6 | 7- 9 | 10-12 || total -------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------++------- Melee: Dagger | 66 | 254 | 481 | 678 || 1479 Fire: Blowgun | | 10 | 75 | 16 || 101 Sling | | | 11 | || 11 Throw: Dart | | 15 | 21 | 12 || 48 Invok: Berserk | | | 3 | 10 || 13 Burn Spellbooks | | | | 1 || 1 Brothers in Arms | | | | 1 || 1 Evoke: Wand | | 2 | 4 | 22 || 28 Use: Scroll | 2 | 13 | 8 | 7 || 30 Potion | 1 | 2 | 4 | 2 || 9 Stab: Sleeping | 10 | 12 | 18 | 29 || 69 Distracted | | 1 | 2 | 5 || 8 Vault maps used: D:1: minmay_entry_four_houses, minmay_liquid_box D:2: first_bread, minivault_11, uniq_iyjb D:3: grunt_decor_mini_mirrors, nrook_mini_backslash, uniq_crazy_yiuf_cottage D:4: minmay_misc_feat_five D:5: portal_sewer_entry_b, serial_shops, shop, uniq_edmund D:6: basic_altar D:7: gammafunk_temple_overflow_forgotten, orc_0_dummy D:8: serial_shops, shop, uniq_psyche D:9: serial_shops, shop D:11: david_orc_3 Temple: circular_temple_12 Sewer: sewer_co_15_rooms

Tuesday, 16th July 2013, 17:59 by nago

You are no longer berserk.
You pass out from exhaustion.

One of the side effect of berserk, after it ends. Usually Trog prevents it, at high piety, but unfortunately this time he didn't

Tuesday, 16th July 2013, 18:01 by Sandman25

nago wrote:
You are no longer berserk.
You pass out from exhaustion.

One of the side effect of berserk, after it ends. Usually Trog prevents it, at high piety, but unfortunately this time he didn't

Really? What's the chance for the effect and for the save by Trog?
That's funny, I have a win with Trog but I don't know about the effect. My poor English made me think it's something like "You pass exhaustion"

Edit. Wiki says the chance for paralysis is 10%. That's too much IMHO, I will rarely berserk with low AC character again.

Edit2. I would need 150 piety to be safe from the effect. That's 6 stars to be safe.

Tuesday, 16th July 2013, 18:08 by BlackSheep

There's your important lesson: don't berserk unless you can end the fight before berserk ends.

Tuesday, 16th July 2013, 18:12 by Siegurt

Berserk gives you a 10% chance of passing out. (less often if you have levels of the "berserk" mutation, 4% at level 1, 1.6% at level 2, 1.2% at level 3)

Trog prevents this with a (piety in 150) chance (so 100% of the time with piety over 150) with the message:
"Trog's vigour flows through your veins."

Tuesday, 16th July 2013, 18:16 by Sandman25

BlackSheep wrote:There's your important lesson: don't berserk unless you can end the fight before berserk ends.

I knew about Slow effect so I killed many monsters while berserking on upstairs in this game (Hill Giant included).
If I knew about paralysis, I would not berserk at all in this last fight.

PS.
Don't tell new players they should not read wiki. Wiki can be extremely useful as this game proves.

Tuesday, 16th July 2013, 18:40 by mopl

Sandman25 wrote:Don't tell new players they should not read wiki. Wiki can be extremely useful as this game proves.

As a new player, general advice I was given is don't TRUST wiki

Tuesday, 16th July 2013, 18:51 by Sandman25

mopl wrote:
Sandman25 wrote:Don't tell new players they should not read wiki. Wiki can be extremely useful as this game proves.

As a new player, general advice I was given is don't TRUST wiki

That's a good advice. Trust source code only

Tuesday, 16th July 2013, 21:14 by BlackSheep

If only there were another source of information more reliable than the wiki.

Tuesday, 16th July 2013, 21:19 by Igxfl

Would the wiki be considered... Ha(lf)As(ssed) information?

Wednesday, 17th July 2013, 06:06 by Sandman25

minmay wrote:
Sandman25 wrote:PS.
Don't tell new players they should not read wiki. Wiki can be extremely useful as this game proves.
If the strongest evidence you have for the wiki being extremely useful is a losing game...the wiki might not be extremely useful.

I have not read the entry for berserk in wiki and lost the game. If I read it, the game might be still in progress.

Wednesday, 17th July 2013, 06:08 by Sandman25

BlackSheep wrote:If only there were another source of information more reliable than the wiki.

Unfortunately knowledge bot is not very user friendly, you should know in advance what you are looking for. It does not apply to berserk obviously so losing the game is my fault only. I had some tactical mistakes in this game also, caused by overconfidence with EV 30 (killing Hill Giant without berserk was stupid but fun).

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