Is this Bow worth training for?


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Mines Malingerer

Posts: 54

Joined: Wednesday, 10th April 2013, 22:31

Post Thursday, 13th June 2013, 02:18

Is this Bow worth training for?

l - the +2,+10 longbow "Piercer" {velocity, EV-2}
(Trog gifted it to you on level 5 of the Lair of Beasts)

I am guessing Dj can't get good cold resistance? My axe is rC++, but only brings cold resistance to neutral.

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Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.13-a0-1399-g403622b (tiles) character file.

Sorted the Severer (Djinni Berserker)              Turns: 37521, Time: 02:06:02

HP 127/127       AC 19     Str 22      XL: 15   Next: 11%
MP   0/0         EV  6     Int 14      God: Trog [*****.]
Gold 1635        SH  0     Dex 14      Spells:  0 memorised, 16 levels left

Res.Fire  : + + +   See Invis. : .   N - +1,+6 battleaxe of Glory {chop, rC++ Int+4
Res.Cold  : . . .   Warding    : .   o - +2 plate armour
Life Prot.: + + +   Conserve   : +   (no shield)
Res.Poison: +       Res.Corr.  : .   j - +1 golden helmet {Int+3}
Res.Elec. : .       Clarity    : .   r - +0 cloak
Sust.Abil.: + .     Spirit.Shd : .   i - +0 pair of gloves
Res.Mut.  : .       Stasis     : .   (boots unavailable)
Res.Rott. : .       Flight     : .   u - amulet of conservation
Saprovore : . . .                    O - ring of poison resistance
                                     b - ring of sustain abilities

@: somewhat resistant to hostile enchantments, extremely unstealthy
A: Dex -1
a: Burn Spellbooks, Berserk, Trog's Hand, Brothers in Arms, Renounce Religion


You are on level 1 of the Lair of Beasts.
You worship Trog.
Trog is exalted by your worship.
You are not hungry.

You have visited 3 branches of the dungeon, and seen 23 of its levels.

You have collected 1615 gold pieces.

Inventory:

Hand weapons
 e - an uncursed dwarven anti-magic morningstar {god gift}
 l - the +2,+10 longbow "Piercer" {velocity, EV-2}
   (Trog gifted it to you on level 5 of the Lair of Beasts)   
   
   Any arrow fired from it inflicts extra damage.
   
   It affects your evasion (-2).
 z - an uncursed runed bow
 G - an uncursed demon blade
 N - the +1,+6 battleaxe of Glory (weapon) {chop, rC++ Int+4}
   (Trog gifted it to you on level 7 of the Dungeon)   
   
   It inflicts extra damage upon your enemies.
   
   It affects your intelligence (+4).
   It greatly protects you from cold.
Missiles
 t - 2 silver javelins (quivered)
 v - a poisoned dart
 w - 9 poisoned javelins
 y - 18 silver darts
 B - a javelin
 I - 15 darts of frost
 S - 12 javelins of penetration
Armour
 i - a +0 pair of gloves (worn)
 j - a +1 golden helmet of intelligence (worn)
 o - a +2 plate armour (worn)
 r - a +0 cloak (worn)
Magical devices
 a - a wand of digging (1)
 E - a wand of fireball
Scrolls
 g - 2 scrolls of immolation
 k - 8 scrolls of teleportation
 n - 2 scrolls of enchant weapon I
 q - a scroll of magic mapping
 x - 3 scrolls of remove curse
 A - 5 scrolls of blinking
 D - 4 scrolls of fog
 F - a scroll of vulnerability
Jewellery
 b - a ring of sustain abilities (left hand)
 c - a cursed ring of teleportation
 d - an uncursed amulet of clarity
 h - an uncursed ring of protection from magic
 p - an uncursed amulet of stasis
 u - an amulet of conservation (around neck)
 O - a ring of poison resistance (right hand)
Potions
 f - a purple potion
 m - 5 potions of curing
 s - 4 potions of heal wounds
 C - a potion of speed
 H - a potion of resistance
Miscellaneous
 J - an ornate deck of changes {drawn: 2}


   Skills:
 - Level 10.4 Fighting
 - Level 18.2 Axes
 + Level 9.5 Throwing
 - Level 5.5 Armour
 + Level 10.5 Dodging
 - Level 6.0 Traps
 - Level 1.4 Spellcasting
 - Level 7.0 Evocations


You have 16 spell levels left.
You don't know any spells.

Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (14/27)            Temple (1/1) D:4             Orc (0/4) D:6
   Lair (8/8) D:9           Swamp (0/5) Lair:5       Spider (0/5) Lair:5
  Slime (0/6) Lair:7     

Altars:
Ashenzari
Cheibriados
Elyvilon
Fedhas
Kikubaaqudgha
Makhleb
Nemelex Xobeh
Okawaru
Sif Muna
Trog
Vehumet
Xom
Yredelemnul
Zin
the Shining One

Shops:
D:10: *

Portals:
Trove: D:11 (give +4,+4 demon whip)


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You are immune to all types of fire, even holy and hellish.
You are especially vulnerable to cold.
You need no food.
You have no legs.
You are clumsy (Dex -1).


Message History

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There is a stone staircase leading up here.
You climb upwards.
There is a stone staircase leading down here.
You see here 28 arrows.
There is a stone staircase leading up here.
You climb upwards.
There is a stone staircase leading down here.
There is a stone staircase leading up here.
You climb upwards.
There is a stone staircase leading down here.
There is a staircase to the Lair here.
You climb downwards. Welcome to the Lair of Beasts!
There is a staircase back to the Dungeon here.
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There are several objects here.
Pick up a +0,+5 broad axe of freezing? ((y)es/(n)o/(a)ll/(m)enu/*?g,/q)
l - the +2,+10 longbow "Piercer" {velocity, EV-2}
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Action                   |  1- 3 |  4- 6 |  7- 9 | 10-12 | 13-15 || total
-------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------++-------
Melee: Hand axe          |   125 |   334 |   114 |       |       ||   573
       War axe           |       |       |   194 |       |       ||   194
       Battleaxe         |       |       |    42 |   659 |   925 ||  1626
Throw: Dart              |    63 |       |    75 |   152 |    37 ||   327
       Javelin           |       |     3 |   125 |   392 |   366 ||   886
       Hand axe          |       |       |     1 |       |     6 ||     7
Invok: Berserk           |       |     3 |     1 |     1 |       ||     5
Evoke: Wand              |       |       |     2 |     5 |     3 ||    10
       Deck              |       |       |       |     1 |     5 ||     6
  Use: Scroll            |     4 |       |     6 |    15 |    13 ||    38
       Potion            |       |       |       |     9 |     2 ||    11
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Dungeon Master

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Post Thursday, 13th June 2013, 02:28

Re: Is this Bow worth training for?

Djinn now only have rC-, because rC-- was too confusing. So wielding your axe will bring you up to rC+.

Also, this probably fits better in the Dungeon Crawling Advice Forum.
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Tartarus Sorceror

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Post Thursday, 13th June 2013, 02:45

Re: Is this Bow worth training for?

Is the bow worth training for? TOTALLY.

cjo

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Post Thursday, 13th June 2013, 02:56

Re: Is this Bow worth training for?

Sorted wrote:l - the +2,+10 longbow "Piercer" {velocity, EV-2}
(Trog gifted it to you on level 5 of the Lair of Beasts)


I recently had a game where I bought that bow on something like D10. It is downright amazing. Absolutely it's worth training for.
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Tartarus Sorceror

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Post Thursday, 13th June 2013, 04:31

Re: Is this Bow worth training for?

Yeah, seriously, +10 vorpal longbow is a killing machine or something.

Snake Sneak

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Post Thursday, 13th June 2013, 17:27

Re: Is this Bow worth training for?

The question in crawl is always "what should I train next".

So for me, the question here, would be
"do I train bow skill up now, or do I raise my armor skill from 5 or keep raising my axe skill".

Not sure what the best answer is here...I'd probably want a higher armor skill, wearing plate, but I'm not a melee expert.

Cocytus Succeeder

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Post Tuesday, 18th June 2013, 19:32

Re: Is this Bow worth training for?

My immediate training for this character would be:

Armour->10
Bow->10

BiA will cover for your diluting of defence skills to train Bows (and Throwing) up.

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