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Post Friday, 21st June 2013, 09:28

YASD SpEn of Ash. Distortion?

I have just found +4,+2 dagger of distortion. Should I wield it? I have +1,+2 vampiric sabre also and +1,+5 dagger "Ryemo" {freeze, rPois rF+}.

I still cannot curse jewelry, no useful amulet and I am not sure which ring to curse, wizardry/invisibility/magic protection/fire can be useful situationally.

Edit. Died while trying to stab Gastronok. Perhaps distortion weapon would save me.

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 Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.12.2 (tiles) character file.

SpEn the Jinx (Spriggan Enchanter)                  Turns: 9895, Time: 01:13:26

HP  39/39        AC  6     Str  5      XL: 9   Next: 19%
MP  25/26        EV 24     Int 19      God: Ashenzari [**....]
Gold 502         SH 14     Dex 17      Spells:  5 memorised,  9 levels left

Res.Fire  : . . .   See Invis. : +   a - +1,+2 dagger (curse) {=f}
Res.Cold  : . . .   Warding    : .   j - +1 robe
Life Prot.: . . .   Conserve   : .   l - +0 buckler (curse)
Res.Poison: .       Res.Corr.  : .   y - +0 cap (curse)
Res.Elec. : .       Clarity    : .   k - +2 dwarf cloak (curse)
Sust.Abil.: . .     Spirit.Shd : .   (gloves unavailable)
Res.Mut.  : .       Stasis     : .   (boots unavailable)
Res.Rott. : .       Ctrl.Telep.: .   A - amulet of rage
Saprovore : . . .   Flight     : .   i - ring of invisibility
                                     t - cursed +5 ring of evasion

@: very quick, quite resistant to hostile enchantments, quite stealthy
A: unfitting armour, see invisible, herbivore 3, speed 3, slow metabolism 2, Int
+1
a: Renounce Religion, Evoke Berserk Rage, Evoke Invisibility


You are on level 8 of the Dungeon.
You worship Ashenzari.
Ashenzari is most pleased with you.
You are not hungry.

You have visited 1 branch of the dungeon, and seen 8 of its levels.

You have collected 482 gold pieces.

Inventory:

Hand weapons
 a - a cursed +1,+2 dagger (weapon) {=f}
 e - a +1,+2 vampiric sabre
 G - the +1,+5 dagger "Ryemo" {freeze, rPois rF+}
   (You found it on level 8 of the Dungeon)   
   
   It has been specially enchanted to freeze those struck by it, causing extra
   injury to most foes and up to double damage against particularly susceptible
   opponents. It can also slow down cold-blooded creatures.
   
   It protects you from fire.
   It protects you from poison.
 N - a +4,+2 dagger of distortion
Missiles
 b - 4 darts of frost
 d - 23 darts
 g - 22 stones (quivered)
 C - 14 darts of flame
Armour
 j - a +1 robe (worn)
 k - a cursed +2 dwarven cloak (worn)
 l - a cursed +0 buckler (worn)
 y - a cursed +0 cap (worn)
Magical devices
 p - a wand of fire
 r - a wand of polymorph {zapped: 2}
 u - a wand of fire {zapped: 1}
 F - a wand of digging {zapped: 1}
 I - a wand of confusion {zapped: 2}
Comestibles
 q - a pear
 x - 2 chokos
 K - 3 bread rations
Scrolls
 H - 2 scrolls of teleportation
 J - a scroll labeled BOHAHI CRIFY
 L - 2 scrolls of magic mapping
 O - 2 scrolls of blinking
Jewellery
 i - a ring of invisibility (right hand)
 m - an uncursed ring of fire
 o - an uncursed ring of protection from magic
 s - a +2 ring of dexterity
 t - a cursed +5 ring of evasion (left hand)
 A - an amulet of rage (around neck)
 E - an uncursed ring of wizardry
 M - an uncursed dented jasper amulet {tried}
Potions
 f - 4 potions of curing
 h - a lumpy black potion
 n - a potion of agility
 v - 2 potions of berserk rage
 w - a potion of heal wounds
 z - a silvery potion
 B - a pink potion
 D - a black potion
Books
 c - a book of Maledictions   
   
   Spells                             Type                      Level
   *Corona                            Hexes                        1
   *Sure Blade                        Hexes/Charms                 2
   *Ensorcelled Hibernation           Hexes/Ice                    2
   *Confuse                           Hexes                        3
   *Enslavement                       Hexes                        4
   Invisibility                       Hexes                        6


   Skills:
 - Level 1,1(2,5) Short Blades
 - Level 1,1 Throwing
 - Level 3,0(4,2) Dodging
 - Level 3,0(4,2) Stealth
 + Level 9,1 Stabbing
 - Level 1,7(2,8) Shields
 + Level 6,8 Spellcasting
 * Level 9,5 Hexes


You have 9 spell levels left.
You know the following spells:

 Your Spells              Type           Power        Failure   Level  Hunger
a - Corona                Hex            ######..     1%          1    None
b - Ensorcelled Hibernat  Hex/Ice        ####...      2%          2    None
c - Sure Blade            Hex/Chrm       ####......   2%          2    None
d - Confuse               Hex            ######...    1%          3    ##.....
e - Enslavement           Hex            ######...    1%          4    ###....


Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (8/27)             Temple (0/1) D:4         
   Orc: D:6-11        Lair: D:8-13     

Altars:
Ashenzari
Elyvilon
Kikubaaqudgha
Zin

Annotations
D:5 exclusion: upstairs
D:7 exclusion: downstairs


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You are tiny and cannot use many weapons and most armour.
You have supernaturally acute eyesight.
You are a herbivore.
You cover ground extremely quickly.
You need consume almost no food.
Your mind is acute (Int +1).


Message History

As you open the door, it creaks loudly!
There is an open door here.
You open the door.
There is an open door here.
A kobold comes into view.
Ashenzari warns you: It is quivering 12 poisoned needles.
The kobold shouts!
There is an open door here.
You start waiting.
Casting: Ensorcelled Hibernation
Confirm with . or Enter, or press ? or * to list all spells.
Aiming: Ensorcelled Hibernation
Press: ? - help, Shift-Dir - straight line, f - kobold
Aim: a kobold quivering 12 poisoned needles
The kobold looks drowsy...
The helpless kobold fails to defend itself.
You skewer the kobold like a kebab!!!
You kill the kobold!
There is an open door here.
Things that are here:
a +0 orcish blowgun; 12 poisoned needles; a kobold corpse
Magic restored.
You open the door.
4 orcs come into view.
The orc shouts!
Found 16 gold pieces.
The orc shouts!
An orc comes into view. It is wielding an orcish dagger.
Casting: Ensorcelled Hibernation
Confirm with . or Enter, or press ? or * to list all spells.
Aiming: Ensorcelled Hibernation
Press: ? - help, Shift-Dir - straight line, f - orc
Aim: an orc, wielding an orcish club
The orc looks drowsy...
The helpless orc fails to defend itself.
You skewer the orc like a kebab!!!
You kill the orc!
Casting: Ensorcelled Hibernation
Confirm with . or Enter, or press ? or * to list all spells.
Aiming: Ensorcelled Hibernation
Press: ? - help, Shift-Dir - straight line, f - orc
Aim: an orc wearing an orcish chain mail
The orc looks drowsy...
The helpless orc fails to defend itself.
You spit the orc like a pig!!!
You kill the orc!
Casting: Ensorcelled Hibernation
Confirm with . or Enter, or press ? or * to list all spells.
Aiming: Ensorcelled Hibernation
Press: ? - help, Shift-Dir - straight line, f - orc
Aim: an orc, wielding an orcish dagger and wearing an orcish ring mail
The orc looks drowsy...
The helpless orc fails to defend itself.
You slice the orc like a ripe choko!!!
You kill the orc!
Casting: Ensorcelled Hibernation
Confirm with . or Enter, or press ? or * to list all spells.
Aiming: Ensorcelled Hibernation
Press: ? - help, Shift-Dir - straight line, f - orc
Aim: an orc, wielding an orcish flail and wearing an orcish ring mail
The orc easily resists. The orc misses you.
Casting: Ensorcelled Hibernation
Confirm with . or Enter, or press ? or * to list all spells.
Aiming: Ensorcelled Hibernation
Press: ? - help, Shift-Dir - straight line, f/p - orc
Aim: an orc, wielding an orcish flail and wearing an orcish ring mail
The orc looks drowsy...
The helpless orc fails to defend itself.
You spit the orc like a pig!!!
You kill the orc!
You start resting.
Magic restored.
Items here: %%%% ))) [[[
Found a +0,+0 trident.
There is an open door here.
You now have 502 gold pieces (gained 16).
There is an open door here.
Psyche comes into view.
Ashenzari warns you: She is carrying a wand of fire.
You fail to use your ability.
You fail to use your ability.
You fail to use your ability.
You fail to use your ability.
You fail to use your ability.
You fail to use your ability.
You fade into invisibility!
You are very lightly contaminated with residual magic.
You feel somewhat more hungry.
The helpless Psyche fails to defend herself.
You cut Psyche into ribbons!!!
You kill Psyche!
Your Stabbing skill increases to level 9!
You feel less transparent.
You flicker back into view.
Your magical contamination has completely faded away.
p - a wand of fire; J - a scroll labeled BOHAHI CRIFY
Things that are here:
a +4,+2 dagger of distortion; an uncursed robe
N - a +4,+2 dagger of distortion
Saving game... please wait.

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There are no monsters in sight!

Vanquished Creatures
  Psyche (D:8)
  A hungry ghost (D:7)
  A yellow wasp (D:5)
  An orc warrior (D:7)
  2 sky beasts
  3 ice beasts
  A centaur (D:8)
  2 ogres
  4 wights (D:7)
  2 crimson imps
  3 hounds
  A shadow (D:7)
  Crazy Yiuf (D:4)
  2 iguanas
  3 orc priests
  2 worker ants (D:6)
  A scorpion (D:5)
  5 orc wizards
  Ijyb (D:7)
  5 adders
  11 gnolls
  An inept item mimic (D:4)
  2 giant mites
  5 worms
  2 bat skeletons (D:5)
  2 oozes
  21 orcs
  A ball python (D:3)
  13 hobgoblins
  4 quokkas
  8 bats
  7 giant cockroaches
  8 giant geckos
  6 giant newts
  9 goblins
  6 jackals
  12 kobolds
  A quokka zombie (D:5)
  10 rats
  A rat skeleton (D:5)
172 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (others)
  A human (D:6)
  An adder (D:2)
  An orc (D:8)
  A goblin (D:5)
  2 fungi (D:2)
6 creatures vanquished.

Grand Total: 178 creatures vanquished

Notes
Turn   | Place    | Note
--------------------------------------------------------------
     0 | D:1      | SpEn, the Spriggan Enchanter, began the quest for the Orb.
     0 | D:1      | Reached XP level 1. HP: 9/9 MP: 4/4
    10 | D:1      | Huge Dmg: 3 dmg
    12 | D:1      | Huge Dmg: 2 dmg
   348 | D:1      | Huge Dmg: 2 dmg
   446 | D:1      | Reached skill level 4 in Hexes
   509 | D:1      | Gained mutation: Your mind is acute (Int +1). [potion of gain intelligence]
   560 | D:1      | Reached XP level 2. HP: 13/13 MP: 6/6
   566 | D:1      | Learned a level 2 spell: Ensorcelled Hibernation
   661 | D:1      | Huge Dmg: 4 dmg
  1136 | D:1      | Learned a level 2 spell: Sure Blade
  1244 | D:2      | Huge Dmg: 3 dmg
  1403 | D:2      | Reached XP level 3. HP: 16/16 MP: 6/9
  1473 | D:2      | Found a shattered altar of Ashenzari.
  1478 | D:2      | Saw a vision of the Swamp and the Spider Nest.
  1478 | D:2      | Noticed a redback
  1478 | D:2      | Noticed an alligator
  1478 | D:2      | Noticed an alligator
  1478 | D:2      | Noticed a redback
  1478 | D:2      | Noticed a water moccasin
  1478 | D:2      | Noticed a redback
  1481 | D:2      | Noticed a swamp drake
  1481 | D:2      | Noticed a redback
  1482 | D:2      | Became a worshipper of Ashenzari the Shackled
  2235 | D:3      | Reached XP level 4. HP: 21/21 MP: 12/12
  2447 | D:3      | Huge Dmg: 5 dmg
  2452 | D:3      | Reached skill level 1 in Shields
  3045 | D:4      | Huge Dmg: 9 dmg
  3159 | D:4      | Noticed Crazy Yiuf
  3165 | D:4      | Killed Crazy Yiuf
  3165 | D:4      | Reached skill level 5 in Stabbing
  3165 | D:4      | Reached XP level 5. HP: 24/24 MP: 12/15
  3422 | D:4      | Huge Dmg: 9 dmg
  3565 | D:4      | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple.
  3571 | D:4      | Learned a level 3 spell: Confuse
  3581 | D:4      | Found a white marble altar of Elyvilon.
  3823 | D:4      | Huge Dmg: 10 dmg
  4125 | D:4      | Found a glowing silver altar of Zin.
  4221 | D:5      | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
  4587 | D:5      | Found a shattered altar of Ashenzari.
  4587 | D:5      | Noticed a phantom
  4590 | D:4      | Huge Dmg: 6 dmg
  4742 | D:5      | Noticed an ice beast
  4753 | D:5      | Noticed an ice beast
  4756 | D:5      | Killed an ice beast
  4756 | D:5      | Reached skill level 6 in Stabbing
  4756 | D:5      | Reached XP level 6. HP: 28/28 MP: 18/18
  4785 | D:5      | Reached skill level 5 in Hexes
  4817 | D:5      | Killed an ice beast
  4939 | D:5      | Noticed a yellow wasp
  4950 | D:5      | Killed a yellow wasp
  4950 | D:5      | Reached XP level 7. HP: 32/32 MP: 21/21
  5621 | D:5      | Noticed a sky beast
  5631 | D:5      | Killed a sky beast
  5631 | D:5      | Reached skill level 7 in Stabbing
  5882 | D:6      | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha.
  5893 | D:6      | Reached skill level 5 in Spellcasting
  5946 | D:6      | Acquired Ashenzari's first power
  6323 | D:6      | Huge Dmg: 13 dmg
  6769 | D:6      | Noticed a human
  6773 | D:6      | Killed a human
  7124 | D:7      | Noticed Ijyb
  7184 | D:6      | Reached XP level 8. HP: 32/36 MP: 20/23
  7395 | D:6      | Learned a level 4 spell: Enslavement
  7429 | D:6      | Huge Dmg: 10 dmg
  7588 | D:7      | Killed Ijyb
  7625 | D:6      | Huge Dmg: 10 dmg
  7948 | D:7      | Huge Dmg: 21 dmg
  8185 | D:7      | Huge Dmg: 13 dmg
  8582 | D:7      | Reached skill level 8 in Stabbing
  8766 | D:7      | Huge Dmg: 19 dmg
  9260 | D:7      | Huge Dmg: 8 dmg
  9262 | D:7      | Huge Dmg: 8 dmg
  9263 | D:7      | Huge Dmg: 6 dmg
  9492 | D:7      | Reached skill level 9 in Hexes
  9560 | D:8      | Reached XP level 9. HP: 39/39 MP: 23/26
  9622 | D:8      | Identified the +1,+5 dagger "Ryemo" {freeze, rPois rF+}
  9637 | D:8      | Huge Dmg: 9 dmg
  9878 | D:8      | Noticed Psyche
  9890 | D:8      | Killed Psyche


Action                   |  1- 3 |  4- 6 |  7- 9 || total
-------------------------+-------+-------+-------++-------
Melee: Dagger            |    56 |   105 |    97 ||   258
       Spear             |     7 |       |       ||     7
Throw: Dart              |    52 |       |       ||    52
       Stone             |       |   104 |    16 ||   120
       Spear             |       |     1 |       ||     1
 Cast: Corona            |     6 |       |       ||     6
       Ensorcelled Hiber |    16 |    37 |   115 ||   168
       Confuse           |       |     3 |    15 ||    18
       Sure Blade        |       |       |     1 ||     1
 Abil: Evoke Invisibilit |       |       |     2 ||     2
       Turn Visible      |       |       |     1 ||     1
Evoke: Wand              |       |       |     8 ||     8
  Use: Scroll            |    10 |     5 |     7 ||    22
       Potion            |     1 |     2 |     2 ||     5
 Stab: Sleeping          |    18 |    26 |    64 ||   108
       Confused          |       |     2 |    10 ||    12
       Held in net/web   |       |       |     1 ||     1
       Distracted        |       |       |     1 ||     1

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Post Friday, 21st June 2013, 15:41

Re: YASD SpEn of Ash. Distortion?

You should probably have cursed the MR ring if possible. The Ash spell skill boost is very nice. Also, faster piety.

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Post Friday, 21st June 2013, 16:21

Re: YASD SpEn of Ash. Distortion?

Spriggan MR is high, and you can cast invisibility (it's not memorised because...), so I'd curse the rF ring. definitely use the distortion dagger, too. Gastronok was better left alone for a little while.
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Post Friday, 21st June 2013, 17:49

Re: YASD SpEn of Ash. Distortion?

That was really stupid death. I went to a new level and found sleeping Gastronok alone sleeping at range 2 from me, so I decided to do that single move. Gastronok awaked after the move, I retreated to the stairs but for some reason I tried to EH it instead of going upstairs immediately. Gastronok used airstrike, I went upstairs, it used another airstrike to kill me. Shame on me but it was not my first death to Gastronok who two-shoted my TeAE several months ago.

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Post Friday, 21st June 2013, 17:51

Re: YASD SpEn of Ash. Distortion?

rchandra wrote:Spriggan MR is high, and you can cast invisibility (it's not memorised because...), so I'd curse the rF ring. definitely use the distortion dagger, too. Gastronok was better left alone for a little while.


That's not ring of protection from fire, it would make me rC- also. Magic resistance is not critical for Sp and I wanted to be able to use Inv ring if needed

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Post Friday, 21st June 2013, 18:06

Re: YASD SpEn of Ash. Distortion?

Why would you want to use the ring? You'd need to train up Evocations to use it whenever there's any time pressure. That's kind of a waste when you're already training Hexes and Spellcasting. (Not to mention, you're giving up a ring slot for something that duplicates a spell in your starting book.)

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Post Friday, 21st June 2013, 18:10

Re: YASD SpEn of Ash. Distortion?

BlackSheep wrote:Why would you want to use the ring? You'd need to train up Evocations to use it whenever there's any time pressure. That's kind of a waste when you're already training Hexes and Spellcasting. (Not to mention, you're giving up a ring slot for something that duplicates a spell in your starting book.)


It is possible to use the ring with 0 evocations with stealth. See example in that game below (it's in OP also)

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There is an open door here.
Psyche comes into view.
Ashenzari warns you: She is carrying a wand of fire.
You fail to use your ability.
You fail to use your ability.
You fail to use your ability.
You fail to use your ability.
You fail to use your ability.
You fail to use your ability.
You fade into invisibility!
You are very lightly contaminated with residual magic.
You feel somewhat more hungry.
The helpless Psyche fails to defend herself.
You cut Psyche into ribbons!!!
You kill Psyche!


I always go for Stabbing if I find a source of invisibility, evocations is not a must.

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Post Friday, 21st June 2013, 18:19

Re: YASD SpEn of Ash. Distortion?

The simplest question: why didn't you learn the invisibility spell? Of course, it would not help against Gastronok, but still I cannot figure out a legitimate reason.
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Post Friday, 21st June 2013, 18:21

Re: YASD SpEn of Ash. Distortion?

oops. I saw "ring of fire" and "ring of protection from magic" and made "ring of protection from fire".
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Post Friday, 21st June 2013, 18:38

Re: YASD SpEn of Ash. Distortion?

And people wonder why minmay seems cranky...

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Post Friday, 21st June 2013, 18:41

Re: YASD SpEn of Ash. Distortion?

Magipi wrote:The simplest question: why didn't you learn the invisibility spell? Of course, it would not help against Gastronok, but still I cannot figure out a legitimate reason.


The spell was not castable, its failure rate was too high. I could learn it later if needed. Actually I prefer ring of Inv over the spell, the ring gives less contamination because I can stop being invisible whenever I want.

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