CIP : DEWz, need spell advices (YAVerySD)

Friday, 24th May 2013, 09:44 by mopl

After ninja-ing and ranged combat, I wanted to have a try at spellcasters before berserking

Here is a dump of my current DEWz

Code:: Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.11.1 (tiles) character file. Coward the Conjurer (Deep Elf Wizard) Turns: 15703, Time: 01:40:41 HP 54/57 AC 5 Str 10 XL: 12 Next: 3% MP 48/48 EV 17 Int 26 God: Vehumet [*****.] Gold 198 SH 0 Dex 13 Spells: 9 memorised, 11 levels left Res.Fire : + . . See Invis. : . B - staff of power Res.Cold : . . . Warding : . a - +0 elf robe Life Prot.: . . . Conserve : . (no shield) Res.Poison: + Res.Corr. : . t - +1 wizard hat Res.Elec. : . Clarity : . (no cloak) Sust.Abil.: . . Spirit.Shd : . g - +0 pair of gauntlets {Str+3} Res.Mut. : . Stasis : . A - +0 pair of boots Res.Rott. : . Ctrl.Telep.: . r - amulet of the gourmand Gourmand : + Levitation : . k - ring of poison resistance Ctrl.Flight: . h - ring of protection from fire @: somewhat resistant to hostile enchantments, fairly stealthy A: no striking features a: Renounce Religion You are on level 1 of the Lair of Beasts. You worship Vehumet. Vehumet is exalted by your worship. You are completely stuffed. You have visited 3 branches of the dungeon, and seen 13 of its levels. You have also visited: Bailey. You have collected 883 gold pieces. You have spent 705 gold pieces at shops. Inventory: Hand weapons f - an uncursed orcish dagger of venom (quivered) I - an uncursed orcish dagger of electrocution Armour a - a +0 elven robe (worn) g - a +0 pair of gauntlets of strength (worn) t - a +1 wizard hat (worn) A - a +0 pair of boots (worn) Magical devices d - a blackened bone wand Comestibles T - a banana U - a sausage Scrolls i - 2 scrolls of remove curse j - a scroll of identify l - a scroll of blinking o - 4 scrolls of teleportation u - a scroll of enchant weapon I Jewellery h - a ring of protection from fire (left hand) k - a ring of poison resistance (right hand) p - an uncursed ring of regeneration r - an amulet of the gourmand (around neck) s - an uncursed amulet of faith R - the ring "Gocum" {+Lev Dex+3} (You found it on level 2 of the Lair of Beasts) [ring of levitation] It affects your dexterity (+3). V - an uncursed amulet of resist corrosion Potions e - 3 potions of curing q - 2 potions of invisibility E - 2 potions of heal wounds Books b - a book of the Earth Spells Type Level *Dig Transmutation/Earth 4 Leda's Liquefaction Transmutation/Earth 4 *Bolt of Magma Conjuration/Fire/Earth 5 Statue Form Transmutation/Earth 6 Iron Shot Conjuration/Earth 6 Shatter Earth 9 c - a book of the Tempests Spells Type Level Static Discharge Conjuration/Air 3 Lightning Bolt Conjuration/Air 5 Fireball Conjuration/Fire 5 Tornado Air 9 Shatter Earth 9 n - a book of Maledictions Spells Type Level Corona Hexes 1 Sure Blade Hexes/Charms 2 Ensorcelled Hibernation Hexes/Ice 2 Confuse Hexes 3 Enslavement Hexes 4 Invisibility Hexes 6 L - a book of the Earth Spells Type Level *Dig Transmutation/Earth 4 Leda's Liquefaction Transmutation/Earth 4 *Bolt of Magma Conjuration/Fire/Earth 5 Statue Form Transmutation/Earth 6 Iron Shot Conjuration/Earth 6 Shatter Earth 9 Q - Sif Muna's Incunabulum of Moulding (You found it on level 5 of the Dungeon) Spells Type Level Beastly Appendage Transmutation 1 S - a book of Minor Magic Spells Type Level *Magic Dart Conjuration 1 *Blink Translocation 2 *Call Imp Summoning 2 *Repel Missiles Charms/Air 2 Slow Hexes 2 *Conjure Flame Conjuration/Fire 3 *Mephitic Cloud Conjuration/Poison/Air 3 X - a book of Beasts Spells Type Level Summon Butterflies Summoning 1 Sticks to Snakes Transmutation 2 Call Canine Familiar Summoning 3 Ice Form Ice/Transmutation 4 Summon Ice Beast Ice/Summoning 4 Summon Hydra Summoning 7 Y - a book of Enchantments Spells Type Level Tukima's Dance Hexes 3 *See Invisible Charms 4 Cause Fear Hexes 4 Silence Hexes/Air 5 Deflect Missiles Charms/Air 6 Haste Charms 6 Magical staves B - an uncursed staff of power (weapon) Skills: * Level 10,2 Dodging - Level 2,4 Stealth * Level 5,4 Traps & Doors - Level 13,0 Spellcasting - Level 14,0 Conjurations - Level 6,0 Summonings - Level 3,0 Translocations You have 11 spell levels left. You know the following spells: Your Spells Type Power Failure Level Hunger a - Magic Dart Conj ##### 0% 1 None b - Call Imp Summ ######.... 1% 2 None c - Conjure Flame Conj/Fire #######.. 1% 3 None d - Mephitic Cloud Conj/Pois/Air ######... 1% 3 None e - Blink Tloc N/A 1% 2 None f - Repel Missiles Chrm/Air ####...... 6% 2 None g - Bolt of Magma Conj/Fire/Erth ######.... 4% 5 #...... h - Dig Trmt/Erth ####..... 38% 4 None i - See Invisible Chrm ####...... 38% 4 None Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations Branches: Dungeon (9/27) Temple (1/1) D:5 Orc (0/4) D:9 Lair (3/8) D:9 Swamp: Lair:3-6 Shoals: Lair:3-6 Snake: Lair:3-6 Spider: Lair:3-6 Altars: Ashenzari Cheibriados Elyvilon Kikubaaqudgha Nemelex Xobeh Okawaru Sif Muna Trog Vehumet Xom Yredelemnul Zin the Shining One Shops: D:4: *[+ D:5: ? D:6: % D:9: ? Annotations D:6 need fly D:9 scrolls Lair:3 Erica

I just picked up all books available, I also have a staff of Death and a staff of Air.

I'm using Lair to train T&D up to 10, it's an habit

What spells should I learn, and what skills to train ?

I only trained Conjuration in order not to choose yet an elemental school.

Friday, 24th May 2013, 09:59 by Sandman25

I would go for Bolt of Fire and Fire Storm, it's the easiest level 9 spell and you are guaranteed to receive Fire Storm from Vehumet because you have a book with Shatter. You may want stop training dodging now.

Friday, 24th May 2013, 10:01 by Magipi

Sandman25 wrote:I would go for Bolt of Fire and Fire Storm, it's the easiest level 9 spell and you are guaranteed to receive Fire Storm from Vehumet because you have a book with Shatter.

This is 0.11, the good old OldVehumet, so he is guaranteed to receive Fire Storm, period

Friday, 24th May 2013, 10:05 by mopl

Sandman25 wrote:I would go for Bolt of Fire and Fire Storm, it's the easiest level 9 spell and you are guaranteed to receive Fire Storm from Vehumet because you have a book with Shatter. You may want stop training dodging now.

What other school than Fire will I want against resistant monsters ?

And I should that with a wizard I would want big EV ? Isn't Dodging worth it ?

Friday, 24th May 2013, 10:06 by Sandman25

Magipi wrote:
Sandman25 wrote:I would go for Bolt of Fire and Fire Storm, it's the easiest level 9 spell and you are guaranteed to receive Fire Storm from Vehumet because you have a book with Shatter.

This is 0.11, the good old OldVehumet, so he is guaranteed to receive Fire Storm, period

Why don't you upgrade to 0.12 for new characters? 0.12 is much better, at least players can use Summon Dragons without feeling they cheat

Friday, 24th May 2013, 10:10 by mopl

Sandman25 wrote:
Magipi wrote:
Sandman25 wrote:I would go for Bolt of Fire and Fire Storm, it's the easiest level 9 spell and you are guaranteed to receive Fire Storm from Vehumet because you have a book with Shatter.

This is 0.11, the good old OldVehumet, so he is guaranteed to receive Fire Storm, period

Why don't you upgrade to 0.12 for new characters? 0.12 is much better, at least players can use Summon Dragons without feeling they cheat

Because :
1. I didn't know the stable release was out
2. I'm currently living in Cameroon, so even downloading 12Mo is a bigger challenge than OpTm of Chei ;-)

(private joke inside !)

Friday, 24th May 2013, 10:11 by Sandman25

mopl wrote:
Sandman25 wrote:I would go for Bolt of Fire and Fire Storm, it's the easiest level 9 spell and you are guaranteed to receive Fire Storm from Vehumet because you have a book with Shatter. You may want stop training dodging now.

What other school than Fire will I want against resistant monsters ?

And I should that with a wizard I would want big EV ? Isn't Dodging worth it ?

Some players train Earth spells like Iron Shot or LCS but others use Fire Storm only. Fire Storm kills everything because there is some physical damage.

As Deep Elf spellcaster you should avoid being adjacent to dangerous monsters so dodging is mostly useful vs ranged monsters which are not present in Lair. You have more important things to train now, 10+ dodging is good enough at this point.

Friday, 24th May 2013, 10:17 by mopl

Now tring to DL 0.12

I'll go for Fire magic.

In this case, what is the point of DEFE ? I wanted to try one later...

Friday, 24th May 2013, 10:50 by mopl

New dump :

Code:: Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.11.1 (tiles) character file. Coward the Conjurer (Deep Elf Wizard) Turns: 21113, Time: 02:08:49 HP 57/57 AC 6 Str 10 XL: 12 Next: 98% MP 48/48 EV 17 Int 26 God: Vehumet [*****.] Gold 319 SH 0 Dex 13 Spells: 11 memorised, 6 levels left Res.Fire : + + . See Invis. : . B - staff of power Res.Cold : . . . Warding : . G - +1 robe {rF+} Life Prot.: . . . Conserve : . (no shield) Res.Poison: + Res.Corr. : . t - +1 wizard hat Res.Elec. : . Clarity : . (no cloak) Sust.Abil.: . . Spirit.Shd : . g - +0 pair of gauntlets {Str+3} Res.Mut. : . Stasis : . A - +0 pair of boots Res.Rott. : . Ctrl.Telep.: . r - amulet of the gourmand Gourmand : + Levitation : . k - ring of poison resistance Ctrl.Flight: . h - ring of protection from fire @: somewhat resistant to hostile enchantments, fairly stealthy A: no striking features a: Renounce Religion You are on level 1 of the Lair of Beasts. You worship Vehumet. Vehumet is exalted by your worship. You are very full. You have visited 3 branches of the dungeon, and seen 15 of its levels. You have also visited: Bailey. You have collected 1004 gold pieces. You have spent 705 gold pieces at shops. Inventory: Hand weapons f - an uncursed orcish dagger of venom (quivered) I - an uncursed orcish dagger of electrocution Armour g - a +0 pair of gauntlets of strength (worn) t - a +1 wizard hat (worn) A - a +0 pair of boots (worn) G - a +1 robe of fire resistance (worn) Magical devices c - a wand of cold {zapped: 4} d - a wand of draining {zapped: 4} n - a wand of draining Comestibles b - a choko H - an apple T - a banana U - a sausage Scrolls o - 3 scrolls of teleportation x - 2 scrolls of fog D - 3 scrolls of remove curse Jewellery h - a ring of protection from fire (left hand) i - an uncursed ring of life protection k - a ring of poison resistance (right hand) p - an uncursed ring of regeneration r - an amulet of the gourmand (around neck) s - an uncursed amulet of faith R - the ring "Gocum" {+Lev Dex+3} (You found it on level 2 of the Lair of Beasts) [ring of levitation] It affects your dexterity (+3). V - an uncursed amulet of resist corrosion Potions e - 3 potions of curing q - 3 potions of invisibility E - 2 potions of heal wounds F - a potion of speed Books a - a book of Power Spells Type Level Iskenderun's Mystic Blast Conjuration 4 Venom Bolt Conjuration/Poison 5 *Bolt of Magma Conjuration/Fire/Earth 5 Poisonous Cloud Conjuration/Poison/Air 6 Iron Shot Conjuration/Earth 6 Orb of Destruction Conjuration 7 y - a book of Spatial Translocations Spells Type Level *Apportation Translocation 1 Portal Projectile Translocation 2 *Blink Translocation 2 Shroud of Golubria Charms/Translocation 2 Teleport Other Translocation 3 Passage of Golubria Translocation 4 *Control Teleport Charms/Translocation 4 L - a book of Conjurations {god gift} Spells Type Level *Magic Dart Conjuration 1 Throw Frost Conjuration/Ice 2 *Mephitic Cloud Conjuration/Poison/Air 3 Lightning Bolt Conjuration/Air 5 Bolt of Cold Conjuration/Ice 6 Freezing Cloud Conjuration/Ice/Air 6 Magical staves B - an uncursed staff of power (weapon) Skills: - Level 10,2 Dodging - Level 2,4 Stealth * Level 9,3 Traps & Doors - Level 13,0 Spellcasting - Level 14,0 Conjurations - Level 6,0 Summonings - Level 3,0 Translocations + Level 10,8 Fire Magic You have 6 spell levels left. You know the following spells: Your Spells Type Power Failure Level Hunger a - Magic Dart Conj ##### 0% 1 None b - Call Imp Summ ######.... 1% 2 None c - Conjure Flame Conj/Fire #######.. 1% 3 None d - Mephitic Cloud Conj/Pois/Air ######... 1% 3 None e - Blink Tloc N/A 1% 2 None f - Repel Missiles Chrm/Air ####...... 6% 2 None g - Bolt of Magma Conj/Fire/Erth #######... 1% 5 #...... h - Dig Trmt/Erth ####..... 38% 4 None i - See Invisible Chrm ####...... 38% 4 None j - Apportation Tloc #####..... 1% 1 None k - Control Teleport Chrm/Tloc ####...... 21% 4 None Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations Branches: Dungeon (9/27) Temple (1/1) D:5 Orc (0/4) D:9 Lair (5/8) D:9 Swamp (0/5) Lair:5 Snake (0/5) Lair:4 Altars: Ashenzari Cheibriados Elyvilon Kikubaaqudgha Nemelex Xobeh Okawaru Sif Muna Trog Vehumet Xom Yredelemnul Zin the Shining One Shops: D:4: *[+ D:5: ? D:6: % D:9: ? Annotations D:6 need fly D:9 scrolls

Just found 3 other books.
Is Orb of destruction worth it ?

Friday, 24th May 2013, 12:28 by hxy

Orb of destruction is good under some circumstances. I prefer Iron Shot though.
Turn off Traps and turn on Conjurations instead. That will get you more power for Iron Shot.
You'd also want a few levels of Charms if you intend to use See Invisible (once you get past Lair).

Friday, 24th May 2013, 14:44 by mopl

VERY Stupid death

Got overconfident

Code:: Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.11.1 (tiles) character file. 187684 Coward the Sorcerer (level 18, -6/103 HPs) Began as a Deep Elf Wizard on May 23, 2013. Was the Champion of Vehumet. Killed from afar by a hell knight (40 damage) ... with a bolt of fire ... led by Margery ... on Level 5 of the Snake Pit on May 24, 2013. The game lasted 04:46:27 (56681 turns). Coward the Sorcerer (Deep Elf Wizard) Turns: 56681, Time: 04:46:27 HP -6/103 AC 10 Str 10 XL: 18 Next: 24% MP 7/53 EV 17 Int 36 God: Vehumet [******] Gold 1373 SH 0 Dex 13 Spells: 14 memorised, 9 levels left Res.Fire : . . . See Invis. : + B - staff of power Res.Cold : . . . Warding : . C - +1 robe {Archmagi} Life Prot.: + . . Conserve : . (no shield) Res.Poison: + Res.Corr. : . A - +0 helmet {SInv} Res.Elec. : . Clarity : . L - +0 cloak Sust.Abil.: . . Spirit.Shd : . w - +2 pair of gloves "Myshyar" {Str+3 Int+3} Res.Mut. : . Stasis : . y - +1 pair of boots {Stlth+} Res.Rott. : . Ctrl.Telep.: . r - amulet of the gourmand Gourmand : + Levitation : . a - ring "Ashi Xie" {rN+ Int+4 SInv} Ctrl.Flight: . k - ring of poison resistance @: quite resistant to hostile enchantments, quite stealthy A: no striking features a: Renounce Religion You were on level 5 of the Snake Pit. You worshipped Vehumet. Vehumet was exalted by your worship. You were very full. You visited 5 branches of the dungeon, and saw 38 of its levels. You also visited: Bailey, Ice Cave and Volcano. You collected 3569 gold pieces. You spent 2216 gold pieces at shops. Inventory: Hand weapons I - a +0,+1 orcish dagger of electrocution (quivered) Armour c - a +2 elven robe of cold resistance f - a +1 robe of magic resistance m - a +2 robe of fire resistance t - a +2 pair of boots of levitation w - the +2 pair of gloves "Myshyar" (worn) {Str+3 Int+3} (You bought it in a shop on level 19 of the Dungeon) It affects your strength (+3). It affects your intelligence (+3). y - a +1 pair of boots of stealth (worn) A - a +0 helmet of see invisible (worn) C - a +1 robe of the Archmagi (worn) L - a +0 cloak (worn) Magical devices b - a wand of cold (6) d - a wand of draining (8) o - a wand of paralysis (13) J - a wand of lightning (6) M - a wand of enslavement (8) S - a wand of confusion (13) {unknown} T - a wand of polymorph other (8) V - a wand of teleportation (6) Comestibles i - a pear j - 2 lemons q - an apple x - 7 sultanas P - a snozzcumber Scrolls g - 4 scrolls of fog n - 4 scrolls of identify v - 3 scrolls of magic mapping z - 7 scrolls of teleportation D - 4 scrolls of remove curse H - a scroll of recharging K - 2 scrolls of fear O - 3 scrolls of enchant armour R - 4 scrolls of blinking Jewellery a - the ring "Ashi Xie" (right hand) {rN+ Int+4 SInv} (You found it on level 18 of the Dungeon) [ring of life protection] It affects your intelligence (+4). It enhances your eyesight. h - an uncursed ring of protection from fire k - a ring of poison resistance (left hand) l - an uncursed ring of ice p - an uncursed ring of regeneration r - an amulet of the gourmand (around neck) u - an uncursed ring of teleportation N - a +3 ring of strength Q - an uncursed ring of see invisible Potions e - 2 potions of invisibility s - 2 potions of curing E - 5 potions of heal wounds F - 3 potions of magic G - 2 potions of resistance W - a potion of porridge {unknown} Books U - a book of Changes Spells Type Level Beastly Appendage Transmutation 1 Sticks to Snakes Transmutation 2 Spider Form Transmutation/Poison 3 Ice Form Ice/Transmutation 4 Blade Hands Transmutation 5 Magical staves B - an uncursed staff of power (weapon) Miscellaneous X - a crystal ball of energy Skills: * Level 11,0 Fighting - Level 10,2 Dodging - Level 2,4 Stealth - Level 10,2 Traps & Doors - Level 21,0 Spellcasting + Level 16,0 Conjurations - Level 12,0 Summonings - Level 3,0 Translocations - Level 17,0 Fire Magic * Level 3,8 Evocations You had 9 spell levels left. You knew the following spells: Your Spells Type Power Failure Level Hunger a - Magic Dart Conj ##### 0% 1 None b - Call Imp Summ #########. 0% 2 None c - Conjure Flame Conj/Fire ######### 0% 3 None d - Mephitic Cloud Conj/Pois/Air ########. 1% 3 None e - Blink Tloc N/A 1% 2 None f - Repel Missiles Chrm/Air #######... 1% 2 None g - Bolt of Magma Conj/Fire/Erth #########. 1% 5 None h - Dig Trmt/Erth #######.. 10% 4 None i - See Invisible Chrm #######... 10% 4 None j - Apportation Tloc #######... 1% 1 None k - Control Teleport Chrm/Tloc #######... 4% 4 None l - Orb of Destruction Conj #########. 1% 7 None m - Mass Abjuration Summ #########. 1% 6 None n - Haste Chrm #######.. 95% 6 None Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations Branches: Dungeon (20/27) Temple (1/1) D:5 Orc (4/4) D:9 Elf (0/3) Orc:3 Lair (8/8) D:9 Swamp (0/5) Lair:5 Snake (5/5) Lair:4 Slime (0/6) Lair:8 Vaults (0/8) D:17 Altars: Ashenzari Cheibriados Elyvilon Fedhas Kikubaaqudgha Makhleb Nemelex Xobeh Okawaru Sif Muna Trog Vehumet Xom Yredelemnul Zin the Shining One Beogh Jiyva Shops: D:4: *[+ D:5: ? D:6: % D:9: ? D:19: [ Orc:4: /!+*[( Annotations D:9 scrolls D:20 Boris Message History You kill the hell knight! Vehumet accepts your kill. The bolt of magma hits the hell knight. The hell knight partially resists. The hell knight is moderately wounded. The hell knight ponders the situation. Unknown command. Casting: Bolt of Magma Confirm with . or Enter, or press ? or * to list all spells. Aiming: Bolt of Magma Press: ? - help, Shift-Dir - straight line, f - hell knight Aim: a hell knight, wielding a runed demon trident and wearing a plate armour (moderately wounded, bewildered and confused) You feel a surge of power! The bolt of magma hits the hell knight. The hell knight partially resists. The hell knight is severely wounded. The bolt of magma hits the hell knight. The hell knight partially resists. The hell knight is severely wounded. The hell knight casts a spell at you. The bolt of fire misses the hell knight. The bolt of fire hits you! Your scroll of amnesia catches fire! You die... #####.....##...# #.)...##...# #####.....##...# ...............# #####.....##...# #####.##.### #########.##.# .[........##(# ############.# #.# #.# #@# #§# #§# ########@######## . .@@@@@§.@.......# . .@@...§))####...# # ######### You could see 2 hell knights. Vanquished Creatures Saint Roka (D:19) Margery (Snake:5) An Ice Fiend (IceCv) Agnes (Snake:1) Frances (D:20) Roxanne (D:15) Maud (Lair:3) A fire giant (D:20) A stone giant (D:20) 3 greater nagas (Snake:5) An orc warlord (Orc:4) The ghost of Hippohippie the Markscentaur, a powerful CeHu of Okawaru (D:12) The ghost of Hippohippie the Markscentaur, a powerful CeHu of Okawaru (D:10) 8 vault guards (D:17) Fannar (D:15) An ice dragon (D:15) Erica (Lair:5) 9 hydras 2 ogre magi 16 slime creatures A sphinx zombie (D:19) 3 anacondas 4 death yaks (Lair:8) A soul eater (D:14) The ghost of Hippohippie the Archer, an experienced CeHu (D:8) A fire giant skeleton (D:18) Nergalle (Snake:3) 3 orc high priests (Orc:4) A very ugly thing (D:20) 11 centaur warriors A stone giant skeleton (D:18) 4 skeletal warriors (D:19) 4 hell knights (Snake:5) 3 unseen horrors 5 naga warriors A flayed ghost (D:19) 4 sea snakes (Snake:4) 9 orc knights 2 ice statues (IceCv) A giant amoeba (D:20) A swamp dragon (Lair:5) 12 ice devils 5 orc sorcerers 5 lindwurms 8 griffons A harpy (D:20) 5 hill giants 2 wolf spiders A guardian serpent (Snake:5) 6 cyclopes 2 spiny worms (D:18) The ghost of Legolas the Conjurer, an experienced DEFE of Sif Muna (D:9) A wizard (D:17) 2 draconians (shapeshifter) (D:19) An oklob plant (D:15) 3 red wasps An elf (shapeshifter) (D:17) Maurice (Orc:1) A sixfirhy (Orc:4) 32 black mambas A red wasp zombie (D:15) An elephant slug (Lair:7) 8 spiny frogs A dragon zombie (D:17) A feature mimic (Lair:4) 4 elephants (Lair:8) A hill giant zombie (D:15) A rock troll (D:18) 9 yaktaurs A dragon skeleton (D:15) Psyche (Orc:1) 2 naga magi 5 komodo dragons 5 wandering mushrooms 15 trolls 2 hill giant skeletons The ghost of Gimli the Agnostic, an average DDPr (D:5) 35 ugly things 9 two-headed ogres 2 queen bees 10 polar bears 2 rock troll zombies 2 baby alligators (Lair:5) A baby alligator (shapeshifter) (D:15) 27 blink frogs A dragon simulacrum (IceCv) 3 wyverns 11 grizzly bears (Lair:8) 3 vampires A grizzly bear (shapeshifter) (D:14) 3 basilisks A griffon simulacrum (D:18) A fire elemental (Volcano) 47 yaks 2 ynoxinuls (D:14) 3 blue devils A spectral orc (Snake:3) A toenail golem (Volcano) A spiny worm simulacrum (D:18) 8 hippogriffs 4 fire vortices (Volcano) 2 chaos spawn 2 wraiths (D:17) 20 vampire mosquitoes 2 yaktaur zombies A blink frog skeleton (D:14) 16 war dogs 2 rock worms 7 fire drakes A steam dragon (D:12) A necrophage (D:10) 5 deep elf fighters 2 trapdoor spiders (D:13) A soldier ant (D:16) 3 hungry ghosts 3 manticores A mottled dragon (D:17) 3 boulder beetles 2 yaktaur skeletons 5 ice beasts 3 tengu (D:10) A black bear (shapeshifter) (D:18) 11 giant goldfish 58 orc warriors 3 sky beasts 5 black bears (Lair:8) A giant goldfish zombie (D:8) A swamp drake (D:9) A cyclops skeleton (D:17) A troll zombie (D:18) A boring beetle (Lair:8) A boulder beetle zombie (D:19) 3 human zombies (D:18) 15 ogres 33 nagas A wolf (D:15) 6 phantoms 13 centaurs 3 wargs 4 big kobolds 2 deep elf magi (Orc:4) Duvessa (Orc:1) A brain worm (D:15) 12 crocodiles 7 giant slugs 3 agate snails 6 human simulacra (IceCv) A silver statue (D:14) A basilisk skeleton (D:13) 20 giant frogs 27 water moccasins 3 grizzly bear simulacra (IceCv) 7 jellyfish 2 oklob saplings (D:14) A soldier ant zombie (D:15) 70 killer bees An eye of draining (D:10) 11 electric eels 11 wights A brain worm zombie (D:15) A pulsating lump (Volcano) 5 goliath beetles 5 spiders (Snake:4) Dowan (Orc:1) A hound zombie (D:14) 5 big fish (D:15) 14 hounds 32 orc priests 3 shadows 14 crimson imps A gnoll shaman (D:8) A quasit (D:13) 6 scorpions 13 iguanas 50 orc wizards 7 porcupines A worker ant zombie (D:5) 7 deep elf soldiers 4 worker ants 3 iron imps (D:14) A big fish zombie (D:8) 4 sheep (Lair:3) Ijyb (D:3) Jessica (D:2) 4 boggarts (D:19) 2 human skeletons (D:18) 6 jellies 3 mummies 8 gnolls 59 green rats 37 adders An adder zombie (D:7) An inept feature mimic (D:11) A shadow imp (D:14) An adder skeleton (D:7) A giant centipede zombie (D:14) A scorpion zombie (D:7) 3 giant centipedes An iguana skeleton (D:7) A white imp (Bailey) 5 worms 2 giant mites A bat skeleton (D:6) 2 giant eyeballs (D:9) 6 giant geckos An ooze (D:2) 227 orcs 18 bats 10 giant cockroaches 23 goblins 16 hobgoblins 38 jackals 37 kobolds 3 ball pythons (Snake:4) 4 giant newts 2 hobgoblin skeletons 5 orc skeletons 8 orc zombies 7 quokkas A quokka skeleton (D:6) 25 rats 3 ballistomycetes (D:12) 9 fungi 6 plants 40 toadstools 1685 creatures vanquished. Vanquished Creatures (collateral kills) Grinder (D:3) 4 orc warriors (Bailey) An agate snail (Lair:1) A killer bee (Snake:3) A crimson imp (D:6) Terence (D:2) 8 orcs A jackal (Lair:1) A kobold (D:6) A quokka (D:6) 20 creatures vanquished. Vanquished Creatures (others) A guardian serpent (Snake:5) A deep troll skeleton (D:18) An orc warrior (Orc:4) Sigmund (D:4) A crocodile (Lair:7) A water moccasin (Snake:5) 3 killer bees (Snake:3) An iron imp (D:3) A big fish (D:15) A quasit (D:9) 9 crimson imps 2 iguanas An orc wizard (D:18) 2 adders (D:2) 2 shadow imps (Lair:1) 3 white imps 7 orcs 4 goblins (D:2) 2 jackals (D:6) 3 kobolds A giant newt (D:2) A giant spore (D:12) A rat (D:8) 7 fungi 2 plants (Lair:8) 225 toadstools 284 creatures vanquished. Grand Total: 1989 creatures vanquished Notes Turn | Place | Note -------------------------------------------------------------- 0 | D:1 | Coward, the Deep Elf Wizard, began the quest for the Orb. 0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 1. HP: 8/8 MP: 7/7 320 | D:1 | Reached XP level 2. HP: 13/13 MP: 7/10 324 | D:1 | Learned a level 2 spell: Call Imp 388 | D:1 | Reached skill level 5 in Spellcasting 782 | D:2 | Reached XP level 3. HP: 17/17 MP: 12/14 787 | D:2 | Learned a level 3 spell: Conjure Flame 791 | D:2 | Learned a level 3 spell: Mephitic Cloud 794 | D:2 | Learned a level 2 spell: Blink 943 | D:2 | Found a shimmering altar of Xom. 1097 | D:2 | Noticed Terence 1181 | D:2 | Killed Terence 1225 | D:2 | Noticed Jessica 1236 | D:2 | Killed Jessica 1236 | D:2 | Reached XP level 4. HP: 12/22 MP: 6/17 1971 | D:3 | Found a sparkling altar of Nemelex Xobeh. 2024 | D:3 | Noticed Ijyb 2035 | D:3 | Killed Ijyb 2035 | D:3 | Reached skill level 6 in Spellcasting 2285 | D:3 | Noticed Grinder 2290 | D:3 | Paralysed by Grinder for 4 turns 2335 | D:3 | Reached XP level 5. HP: 26/26 MP: 1/20 2345 | D:3 | Paralysed by Grinder for 5 turns 2476 | D:3 | Killed Grinder 2476 | D:3 | Reached skill level 7 in Spellcasting 2476 | D:3 | Reached XP level 6. HP: 11/31 MP: 2/23 2642 | D:3 | Found an iron altar of Okawaru. 2982 | D:4 | Found Straff's Assorted Antiques. 2989 | D:4 | Bought a scroll labeled FIHYDU CRACO for 23 gold pieces 2989 | D:4 | Bought a scroll labeled FIHYDU CRACO for 23 gold pieces 2989 | D:4 | Bought 2 murky red potions for 41 gold pieces 2989 | D:4 | Bought a scroll labeled DIOD BRIHOR for 23 gold pieces 3144 | D:4 | Noticed Sigmund 3184 | D:4 | Killed Sigmund 3210 | D:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon 3303 | D:5 | Reached skill level 8 in Spellcasting 3453 | D:5 | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple. 3482 | D:5 | Found Pnoazuch's Magic Scroll Emporium. 3491 | D:5 | Bought a scroll of noise for 14 gold pieces 3491 | D:5 | Bought a scroll of immolation for 14 gold pieces 3881 | Temple | Entered the Ecumenical Temple 3992 | Temple | Became a worshipper of Ashenzari the Shackled 4000 | Temple | Fell from the grace of Ashenzari 4000 | Temple | Became a worshipper of Vehumet 4230 | D:5 | Reached skill level 5 in Conjurations 4230 | D:5 | Reached XP level 7. HP: 35/35 MP: 11/25 4419 | D:5 | Found a deep blue altar of Sif Muna. 4433 | D:5 | Got a yellowed book 4435 | D:5 | Identified Sif Muna's Incunabulum of Moulding (You found it on level 5 of the Dungeon) 4532 | D:5 | Reached skill level 9 in Spellcasting 4788 | D:5 | Noticed Gimli's ghost (average DDPr) 4794 | D:5 | Killed Gimli's ghost 4846 | D:5 | Was forgiven by Ashenzari 4846 | D:5 | Reached XP level 8. HP: 26/40 MP: 16/27 4867 | D:4 | Found Sonefare's Antique Armour Shoppe. 5018 | D:4 | Bought a scroll labeled DEEZ YMURASCH for 23 gold pieces 5044 | D:4 | Found Kleff's Book Emporium. 5423 | D:6 | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha. 5639 | D:6 | Acquired Vehumet's first power 5773 | D:6 | Found a deep blue altar of Sif Muna. 6160 | D:6 | Reached XP level 9. HP: 44/44 MP: 20/29 6181 | D:6 | Found Eckus' Food Shoppe. 6793 | D:7 | Reached skill level 10 in Conjurations 7263 | D:7 | Found a flagged portal. 7279 | D:7 | Acquired Vehumet's second power 7291 | Bailey | Entered a bailey 7482 | Bailey | Reached skill level 11 in Conjurations 7666 | Bailey | Noticed an orc knight 7775 | Bailey | Killed an orc knight 7878 | Bailey | Reached XP level 10. HP: 48/48 MP: 20/30 7974 | Bailey | Noticed an orc knight 8054 | Bailey | Killed an orc knight 8054 | Bailey | Reached skill level 5 in Summonings 8287 | D:7 | Acquired Vehumet's third power 8850 | D:5 | Bought a scroll of enchant weapon I for 77 gold pieces 8850 | D:5 | Bought a scroll of amnesia for 77 gold pieces 8850 | D:5 | Bought a scroll of identify for 28 gold pieces 8850 | D:5 | Bought a scroll of fear for 49 gold pieces 8850 | D:5 | Bought a scroll of magic mapping for 49 gold pieces 8943 | Temple | Learned a level 2 spell: Repel Missiles 9131 | D:8 | Found a shattered altar of Ashenzari. 9304 | D:8 | Noticed Hippohippie's ghost (experienced CeHu) 9312 | D:8 | Killed Hippohippie's ghost 9312 | D:8 | Reached skill level 12 in Conjurations 9594 | D:8 | Found a basalt altar of Yredelemnul. 9763 | D:8 | Reached skill level 10 in Spellcasting 10019 | D:9 | Found a glowing silver altar of Zin. 10228 | D:9 | Acquired Vehumet's fourth power 10357 | D:9 | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging 10745 | D:9 | Found Theoc's Magic Scroll Boutique. 10748 | D:9 | Bought a scroll of blinking for 82 gold pieces 10795 | D:9 | Reached skill level 13 in Conjurations 10905 | D:9 | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines. 11469 | D:9 | Reached XP level 11. HP: 52/52 MP: 31/32 11470 | D:9 | Noticed Legolas' ghost (experienced DEFE) 11479 | D:9 | Killed Legolas' ghost 11560 | D:9 | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 4 turns 11570 | D:9 | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 4 turns 11687 | D:9 | Found a glowing silver altar of Zin. 11798 | D:9 | Found a staircase to the Lair. 11898 | Lair:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts 11979 | Lair:1 | Learned a level 5 spell: Bolt of Magma 12613 | Lair:1 | Learned a level 4 spell: Dig 12949 | Lair:2 | Got a glittering granite ring 12952 | Lair:2 | Identified the ring "Gocum" {+Lev Dex+3} (You found it on level 2 of the Lair of Beasts) 13428 | Lair:2 | Reached skill level 14 in Conjurations 13433 | Lair:2 | Reached skill level 1 in Traps & Doors 13638 | Lair:2 | Noticed a lindwurm 13641 | Lair:2 | Noticed a lindwurm 13642 | Lair:2 | Killed a lindwurm 13646 | Lair:2 | Noticed a lindwurm 13649 | Lair:2 | Killed a lindwurm 13650 | Lair:2 | Killed a lindwurm 13661 | Lair:2 | Noticed a lindwurm 13678 | Lair:2 | Killed a lindwurm 14299 | Lair:2 | Got a smoking glass ring 14335 | Lair:2 | Identified the ring "Geumyuxuet" {Str-3} (You found it on level 2 of the Lair of Beasts) 14772 | D:5 | Bought a scroll of recharging for 77 gold pieces 14772 | D:5 | Bought a scroll of silence for 105 gold pieces 14972 | Lair:1 | Learned a level 4 spell: See Invisible 15214 | Lair:3 | Reached skill level 5 in Traps & Doors 15383 | Lair:3 | Reached skill level 10 in Dodging 15406 | Lair:3 | Reached XP level 12. HP: 54/57 MP: 8/35 15532 | Lair:3 | Noticed Erica 15816 | Lair:3 | Reached skill level 1 in Fire Magic 16185 | Lair:3 | Noticed Maud 16197 | Lair:3 | Killed Maud 16962 | Lair:4 | Found a hole to the Spider Nest. 17291 | Lair:4 | the hole to the Spider Nest was a mimic. 17504 | Lair:4 | Reached skill level 5 in Fire Magic 18522 | Lair:4 | Learned a level 1 spell: Apportation 18528 | Lair:4 | Learned a level 4 spell: Control Teleport 19045 | Lair:4 | Found a staircase to the Snake Pit. 19765 | Lair:5 | Killed Erica 20011 | Lair:5 | Found a staircase to the Swamp. 20426 | Lair:5 | Reached skill level 10 in Fire Magic 20461 | Lair:5 | Received a gift from Vehumet 21369 | Lair:6 | Reached XP level 13. HP: 47/61 MP: 36/36 22126 | Lair:6 | Found a dark tunnel. 22136 | Volcano | Entered a volcano 22831 | Lair:6 | Noticed a five-headed hydra 22840 | Lair:6 | Killed a five-headed hydra 24165 | Lair:7 | Got a glittering turquoise ring 24178 | Lair:7 | Noticed a five-headed hydra 24185 | Lair:7 | Killed a five-headed hydra 24515 | Lair:7 | Identified the ring of Prescription {Dex+1} (You found it on level 7 of the Lair of Beasts) 24979 | Lair:7 | Reached skill level 10 in Traps & Doors 25581 | Lair:7 | Noticed a five-headed hydra 25597 | Lair:7 | Killed a five-headed hydra 25754 | Lair:8 | Entered Level 8 of the Lair of Beasts 25883 | Lair:8 | Found a burning altar of Makhleb. 26107 | Lair:8 | Noticed an eight-headed hydra 26119 | Lair:8 | Killed an eight-headed hydra 26665 | Lair:8 | Noticed a seven-headed hydra 26671 | Lair:8 | Killed a seven-headed hydra 26960 | Lair:8 | Reached XP level 14. HP: 66/66 MP: 23/38 26963 | Lair:8 | Reached skill level 15 in Spellcasting 27494 | Lair:8 | Found a staircase to the Slime Pits. 27494 | Lair:8 | Found a viscous altar of Jiyva. 27529 | Lair:8 | Reached skill level 15 in Fire Magic 27532 | Lair:8 | Received a gift from Vehumet 27973 | Lair:8 | Reached skill level 16 in Spellcasting 28568 | D:9 | Bought a scroll of enchant weapon II for 82 gold pieces 28568 | D:9 | Bought a scroll of enchant armour for 82 gold pieces 28568 | D:9 | Bought a scroll of holy word for 112 gold pieces 28568 | D:9 | Bought a scroll of enchant armour for 82 gold pieces 28711 | D:9 | Noticed a cyclops 28729 | D:9 | Killed a cyclops 28847 | Orc:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Orcish Mines 28847 | Orc:1 | Noticed Maurice 28854 | Orc:1 | Killed Maurice 29941 | Orc:2 | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh. 30063 | Orc:1 | Noticed Duvessa 30064 | Orc:1 | Noticed Dowan 30070 | Orc:1 | Killed Duvessa 30072 | Orc:1 | Killed Dowan 30079 | Orc:1 | Noticed Psyche 30082 | Orc:1 | Killed Psyche 30298 | Orc:3 | Received a gift from Vehumet 31214 | Orc:4 | Entered Level 4 of the Orcish Mines 31465 | Orc:4 | Found Diasofiu's Distillery. 31521 | Orc:4 | Bought a potion of brilliance for 45 gold pieces 31521 | Orc:4 | Bought a potion of might for 45 gold pieces 31777 | Orc:3 | Reached skill level 17 in Spellcasting 32025 | Orc:3 | Found a staircase to the Elven Halls. 32043 | Orc:4 | Found Twifeax's Magical Wand Emporium. 32440 | Orc:4 | Received a gift from Vehumet 32553 | Orc:4 | Noticed an orc warlord 32908 | Orc:4 | Killed an orc warlord 33233 | Orc:4 | Reached skill level 18 in Spellcasting 34152 | Orc:4 | Reached skill level 1 in Fighting 34405 | Orc:4 | Found Betiogifi's General Store. 34406 | Orc:4 | Found Skawonu's Book Shop. 34407 | Orc:4 | Found Juedoh's Antique Weapon Boutique. 34407 | Orc:4 | Found Satur's Antique Armour Boutique. 34421 | Orc:4 | Bought a scroll of torment for 112 gold pieces 34421 | Orc:4 | Bought a potion of degeneration for 30 gold pieces 34432 | Orc:4 | Bought a pair of glowing boots for 51 gold pieces 34439 | Orc:4 | Bought a shiny helmet for 85 gold pieces 34452 | Orc:4 | Bought a pair of glowing boots for 51 gold pieces 34737 | Lair:1 | Identified 3 scrolls of acquirement 34827 | Lair:1 | Learned a level 7 spell: Orb of Destruction 35113 | D:9 | Bought a scroll of identify for 30 gold pieces 35113 | D:9 | Bought a scroll of identify for 30 gold pieces 35113 | D:9 | Bought a scroll of identify for 30 gold pieces 35203 | D:10 | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon 35213 | D:10 | Noticed Hippohippie's ghost (powerful CeHu) 35221 | D:10 | Killed Hippohippie's ghost 36723 | D:11 | Received a gift from Vehumet 36809 | D:11 | Reached XP level 15. HP: 72/72 MP: 36/40 37209 | D:11 | Found a shimmering altar of Xom. 37489 | D:12 | Noticed Hippohippie's ghost (powerful CeHu) 37497 | D:12 | Killed Hippohippie's ghost 39780 | D:14 | Entered Level 14 of the Dungeon 39805 | D:14 | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting 39940 | D:14 | Found a snail-covered altar of Cheibriados. 40163 | D:14 | Found a blossoming altar of Fedhas. 42618 | D:15 | Entered Level 15 of the Dungeon 42635 | D:15 | Reached skill level 10 in Summonings 42636 | D:15 | Noticed Fannar 42782 | D:15 | Killed Fannar 43048 | D:15 | Found a radiant altar of Vehumet. 43451 | D:15 | Noticed Roxanne 43574 | D:15 | Killed Roxanne 43666 | D:15 | Found a frozen archway. 43700 | IceCv | Entered an ice cave 43880 | IceCv | Reached XP level 16. HP: 86/86 MP: 41/41 44750 | IceCv | Noticed an Ice Fiend 44755 | IceCv | Killed an Ice Fiend 45703 | Lair:1 | Learned a level 6 spell: Mass Abjuration 45994 | D:16 | Found a basalt altar of Yredelemnul. 46414 | D:17 | Found a staircase to the Vaults. 46426 | D:17 | Reached skill level 19 in Spellcasting 47358 | D:18 | Got a twitching jade ring 47504 | D:18 | Found a glowing golden altar of the Shining One. 48785 | D:18 | Identified the ring "Ashi Xie" {Int+4} (You found it on level 18 of the Dungeon) 48862 | D:18 | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha. 49100 | D:19 | Reached XP level 17. HP: 95/95 MP: 42/42 49111 | D:19 | Reached skill level 20 in Spellcasting 49188 | D:19 | Found Coethuu's Armour Emporium. 49189 | D:19 | Noticed Saint Roka 49357 | D:19 | Killed Saint Roka 49570 | D:19 | Bought the +2 pair of gloves "Myshyar" {Str+3 Int+3} for 644 gold pieces 49701 | D:19 | Reached skill level 10 in Fighting 50165 | D:19 | Reached skill level 21 in Spellcasting 50355 | D:20 | Entered Level 20 of the Dungeon 50444 | D:20 | Got a scintillating golden ring 50721 | D:20 | Noticed Frances 50731 | D:20 | Killed Frances 51135 | D:20 | Noticed Boris 51462 | Lair:1 | Learned a level 6 spell: Haste 51594 | Snake:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Snake Pit 51614 | Snake:1 | Found a blossoming altar of Fedhas. 51717 | Snake:1 | Noticed Agnes 51726 | Snake:1 | Killed Agnes 52926 | Snake:3 | Noticed Nergalle 52938 | Snake:3 | Killed Nergalle 53292 | Snake:3 | Reached skill level 1 in Evocations 53376 | Snake:3 | Identified the ring "Luwnoxt" {Dex+4} (You found it on level 20 of the Dungeon) 54033 | Snake:3 | Reached skill level 15 in Conjurations 55200 | Snake:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Snake Pit 55202 | Snake:5 | Reached XP level 18. HP: 103/103 MP: 44/44 56660 | Snake:5 | Noticed Margery 56680 | Snake:5 | Killed Margery 56681 | Snake:5 | Killed from afar by a hell knight

Friday, 24th May 2013, 15:19 by Psieye

Uh yeah, Margery alone could have just about one-shot you - certainly she could have knocked off up to 90% of your maxHP in one shot if she rolled well. That she always shows up with Hell knights really doesn't help matters.

Friday, 24th May 2013, 15:21 by mopl

2 or 3 Mephitic clouds had confused her and those hell knights...
I just died because of spamming Bolt of magma without looking if they were still confused

Friday, 24th May 2013, 16:39 by Psieye

That's the bigger mistake then: don't rely on meph by that point in the game. Monsters, especially badass uniques, will have high HD so will quickly shrug off the meph confusion and it's hard to get them to choke in the first place. I forget it after I've finished Lair/Orc to force myself to not rely on it anymore (unless I have ignite poison).

Friday, 24th May 2013, 18:48 by Sandman25

mopl wrote:2 or 3 Mephitic clouds had confused her and those hell knights...
I just died because of spamming Bolt of magma without looking if they were still confused

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