CIP-->YASD! HuFi TSO

Wednesday, 1st May 2013, 20:07 by King_Felagund

Hey all

After reaching XL 21 with my MiBe, i've struggling to reach that result with no avail for my second week of Crawl.
After an enormous struggle, and an average death at XL:6 for an insane number of characters, i managed to reach XL 22 with my HuFi of TSO, who has been slowly shaped as a Paladin.

I escaped death a couple of times, but my most bitter moments were especially two:

1) When i lost around 30 scrolls to a efreet named Azrael and his fire minion by being completely careless, and thinking i was wearing my conservation amulet. (And ignoring somehow the messages that told me the scrolls were being burnt. Blind?)

2) When i made TSO rage so hard by using a wand of draining 5-6 times while fighting a huge number of slimes in a narrow tunnel and using a saber of venom both for the same reason: i didn't want the slimes to corrode my armor, and i forgot completely TSO deprecates poison and draining.
So i passed thousands and thousands of turns at negative piety (If that does even exist) from ****. Sigh.
At least i noticed TSO doesn't actively punish.

Edit 2:
Alright, i got owned in Shoals, it was my first time trying that. I completely underestimated it. I got sorrounded by harpies, merfolks and sea snakes. It's useless to say i thought harpies were much less annoying.
Went once again under penance by killing Mennas. I thought i could kill hostile angels. Maybe with some Daevas in Shoals i could have survived, oh well.
And it was a bad idea to upgrade before finishing the char, i got kind of confused.

Code:: Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.12.0 (tiles) character file. 369011 Felagund the Tortoise (level 25, -2/200 (210) HPs) Began as a Human Fighter on Apr 30, 2013. Was a Follower of the Shining One (penitent). Slain by a harpy (5 damage) ... on Level 3 of the Shoals on May 2, 2013. The game lasted 06:31:40 (107705 turns). Felagund the Tortoise (Human Fighter) Turns: 107705, Time: 06:31:41 HP -2/200 (210) AC 47 Str 23 XL: 25 Next: 41% MP 35/35 EV 7 Int 15 God: *the Shining One Gold 2149 SH 40 Dex 15 Spells: 0 memorised, 24 levels left Res.Fire : . . . See Invis. : . d - +2 great mace Res.Cold : + . . Warding : . r - +4 dwarf plate armour Life Prot.: + . . Conserve : . (no shield) Res.Poison: + Res.Corr. : . s - +0 helmet Res.Elec. : . Clarity : + u - +1 cloak Sust.Abil.: . . Spirit.Shd : . q - +5 pair of gloves "Niunwa" {rPois MR} Res.Mut. : + Stasis : . o - +1 pair of dwarf boots Res.Rott. : . Ctrl.Telep.: + p - amulet of Jeit {rMut -Cast rC+ rN+ Stlth++ Saprovore : . . . Flight : . c - ring of Tureoq {+Fly rPois Int+3} y - +4 ring of protection @: very slightly contaminated, extremely resistant to hostile enchantments, extremely unstealthy A: berserk 2, blink 1, clarity, herbivore 1, sense surroundings 1, teleport control, AC +5, Str -1, Int +1 a: Blink, Renounce Religion, Evoke Flight }: 1/15 runes: abyssal You were on level 3 of the Shoals. You worshipped the Shining One. the Shining One was demanding penance. You were very hungry. You visited 5 branches of the dungeon, and saw 47 of its levels. You visited the Abyss 3 times. You also visited: Wizlab. You collected 4859 gold pieces. You spent 2730 gold pieces at shops. Inventory: Hand weapons d - a +2,+2 great mace (weapon) f - a +3,+4 eveningstar of distortion F - a +2,+1 dire flail of crushing N - a +0,+2 flail of protection Armour j - a +0 large shield o - a +1 pair of dwarven boots (worn) q - the +5 pair of gloves "Niunwa" (worn) {rPois MR} (You found it on level 20 of the Dungeon) It protects you from poison. It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments. r - a +4 dwarven plate armour (worn) s - a +0 helmet (worn) u - a +1 cloak (worn) Magical devices h - a wand of digging (4) K - a wand of digging (10) S - a wand of digging (5) Comestibles Y - a meat ration Scrolls e - 3 scrolls of identify v - 2 scrolls of fear w - a scroll of amnesia x - 3 scrolls of teleportation E - a scroll of enchant weapon III {unknown} J - 2 scrolls of silence {unknown} O - 2 scrolls of remove curse Jewellery c - the ring of Tureoq (right hand) {+Fly rPois Int+3} (You bought it in a shop on level 4 of the Orcish Mines) [ring of intelligence] It affects your intelligence (+3). It protects you from poison. It lets you fly. p - the amulet of Jeit (around neck) {rMut -Cast rC+ rN+ Stlth++} (You bought it in a shop on level 4 of the Orcish Mines) [amulet of resist mutation] It protects you from cold. It protects you from negative energy. It prevents spellcasting. It makes you much more stealthy. y - a +4 ring of protection (left hand) z - an uncursed ring of see invisible B - an uncursed ring of protection from magic Potions b - a potion of resistance n - 2 potions of restore abilities A - 2 potions of poison {unknown} C - a potion of flight I - a potion of invisibility X - 2 potions of brilliance Miscellaneous a - an ornate deck of dungeons Skills: + Level 19,5 Fighting + Level 19,2 Maces & Flails + Level 19,6 Armour + Level 8,7 Dodging + Level 19,1 Shields + Level 11,2 Invocations You had 24 spell levels left. You didn't know any spells. Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations Branches: Dungeon (27/27) Temple (0/1) D:7 Orc (4/4) D:6 Elf (0/3) Orc:4 Lair (3/8) D:11 Shoals (3/5) Lair:3 Spider (0/5) Lair:5 Slime (0/6) Lair:8 Vaults (0/8) D:18 Crypt (0/5) Vaults:2 Zot: D:27 Altars: Ashenzari Cheibriados Elyvilon Fedhas Kikubaaqudgha Makhleb Nemelex Xobeh Okawaru Trog Vehumet Xom Zin the Shining One Beogh Shops: D:5: + D:6: ( D:8: + D:15: [ D:18: / D:23: = D:25: =?[ D:26: !* Orc:4: =+[ Shoals:2: ( Vaults:4: / Portals: Hell: D:21 D:22 D:23 D:24 D:25 D:26 D:27 Abyss: D:24 D:25 Pandemonium: D:24 Annotations D:10 Stash D:24 Stash 2, scrolls D:26 exclusions: orange crystal statue and silver statue Lair:4 exclusion: oklob plant Lair:5 Maud Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations You are partially covered in icy blue scales (AC +1). You are partially covered in iridescent scales (AC +4). You often lose your temper in combat. You can translocate small distances at will. You possess an exceptional clarity of mind. Your mind is acute (Int +1). You digest meat inefficiently. You passively map a small area around you. You can control translocations. You are weak (Str -1). Message History The harpy claws you but does no damage. You block the harpy's attack. You block the harpy's attack. The harpy claws you but does no damage. The sea snake closely misses you. You haven't enough vitality at the moment. The harpy screeches! You block the harpy's attack. The harpy barely misses you. You block the harpy's attack. The harpy claws you. * * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * * The harpy lunges at you hungrily! The harpy closely misses you. The harpy claws you but does no damage. You haven't enough vitality at the moment. You enter the shallow water. Moving in this stuff is going to be slow. The harpy screeches! You block the harpy's attack. The harpy barely misses you. You block the harpy's attack. The harpy claws you but does no damage. You block the harpy's attack. The harpy claws you but does no damage. The harpy claws you. You die... , ** . ・・### ・ ##.・・・.. ...・・・..# * .・・・・・# .・・・・・##### .・・・・・....### ・・・・・...・・. ・・・・H@・・・・・・・・HH・・・・・・・..H..・・・・・・路.S...・・・・・・・・)..・・・・・・・・.%%・・・・・..・・#・・#・・・・・##・・・#・・・.).・#・・・#・・ ......##・・.##・・ You could see a sea snake and 5 harpies. Notes Turn | Place | Note -------------------------------------------------------------- 0 | D:1 | Felagund, the Human Fighter, began the quest for the Orb. 0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 1. HP: 18/18 MP: 0/0 73 | D:1 | Reached XP level 2. HP: 18/24 MP: 1/1 854 | D:1 | Reached XP level 3. HP: 27/30 MP: 2/2 968 | D:2 | Found a shattered altar of Ashenzari. 1452 | D:2 | Found a sparkling altar of Nemelex Xobeh. 1623 | D:2 | Reached XP level 4. HP: 36/36 MP: 3/3 1977 | D:3 | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha. 2153 | D:3 | Reached skill level 4 in Maces & Flails 2689 | D:4 | Reached XP level 5. HP: 39/42 MP: 4/4 2703 | D:4 | Found a glowing golden altar of the Shining One. 2714 | D:4 | Became a worshipper of the Shining One 2995 | D:4 | Reached skill level 5 in Maces & Flails 3236 | D:4 | Noticed Menkaure 3255 | D:4 | Killed Menkaure 3255 | D:4 | Reached skill level 6 in Maces & Flails 3255 | D:4 | Reached XP level 6. HP: 37/48 MP: 5/5 3580 | D:4 | Noticed Crazy Yiuf 3588 | D:4 | Killed Crazy Yiuf 3599 | D:4 | Got a twisted hammer 3600 | D:4 | Identified the cursed hammer "Okoathrea" {speed, rPois} (You found it on level 4 of the Dungeon) 3874 | D:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon 3943 | D:5 | Reached XP level 7. HP: 50/53 MP: 6/6 3950 | D:5 | Noticed Ijyb 3987 | D:5 | Killed Ijyb 4054 | D:5 | Reached skill level 7 in Maces & Flails 4082 | D:5 | Noticed Eustachio 4118 | D:5 | Killed Eustachio 4365 | D:5 | Reached skill level 8 in Maces & Flails 4427 | D:5 | HP: 2/53 [ogre/giant club (17)] 4450 | D:5 | Reached XP level 8. HP: 40/60 MP: 7/7 4571 | D:5 | Found a bloodstained altar of Trog. 4690 | D:5 | Noticed a hungry ghost 4707 | D:5 | Killed a hungry ghost 4768 | D:5 | Found Psimofiu's Book Shoppe. 4794 | D:5 | Found a glowing silver altar of Zin. 4794 | D:5 | Noticed a glowing angel 4794 | D:5 | Acquired the Shining One's first power 5100 | D:5 | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 2 turns 5103 | D:5 | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 4 turns 5277 | D:5 | Got a polished flail 5278 | D:5 | Identified the cursed flail "Widowermaker" {crush, *Rage +Inv +Lev rF+ rC+} (You found it on level 5 of the Dungeon) 5363 | D:6 | Noticed Sigmund 5424 | D:6 | Found Prehuph's Weapon Boutique. 5697 | D:5 | Reached XP level 9. HP: 59/66 MP: 8/8 5925 | D:6 | Noticed Blork the orc 5942 | D:5 | Killed Blork the orc 5962 | D:6 | Noticed Pikel 5982 | D:5 | Killed Pikel 5982 | D:5 | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting 5982 | D:5 | Reached skill level 5 in Armour 5982 | D:5 | Reached skill level 5 in Shields 6245 | D:6 | Killed Sigmund 6469 | D:6 | Noticed Edmund 6492 | D:6 | Killed Edmund 6549 | D:6 | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh. 6561 | D:6 | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines. 7002 | D:6 | Your ally freed slave died 7057 | D:6 | Your ally freed slave died 7289 | D:7 | Found an iron altar of Okawaru. 7484 | D:6 | Reached XP level 10. HP: 58/75 MP: 9/9 7801 | D:7 | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple. 7857 | D:7 | Acquired the Shining One's second power 7926 | D:7 | Noticed Joseph 8758 | D:7 | Got a turquoise-studded leather armour 8772 | D:7 | Identified the cursed -6 leather armour of Yddiviax (You found it on level 7 of the Dungeon) 8879 | D:7 | Killed Joseph 9029 | D:7 | Found a bloodstained altar of Trog. 9319 | D:8 | Found Mnaphull's Book Shop. 9423 | D:8 | Noticed Duvessa 9424 | D:8 | Noticed Dowan 9437 | D:8 | Killed Duvessa 9440 | D:8 | Killed Dowan 10328 | D:8 | Noticed Prince Ribbit 10337 | D:8 | Killed Prince Ribbit 10732 | D:9 | Found a white marble altar of Elyvilon. 11155 | D:9 | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 3 turns 11200 | D:9 | Noticed Psyche 11215 | D:9 | Killed Psyche 11215 | D:9 | Reached XP level 11. HP: 53/84 MP: 10/10 12022 | D:10 | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon 12167 | D:10 | Reached skill level 1 in Invocations 12195 | D:10 | Reached skill level 9 in Maces & Flails 12266 | D:10 | Noticed Erica 12281 | D:10 | Killed Erica 13602 | D:11 | Noticed a six-headed hydra 13631 | D:11 | Killed a six-headed hydra 13638 | D:11 | Reached XP level 12. HP: 93/93 MP: 17/19 13704 | D:11 | Noticed a hill giant 13713 | D:11 | Killed a hill giant 13793 | D:11 | Reached skill level 10 in Maces & Flails 13833 | D:11 | Reached skill level 5 in Invocations 13881 | D:11 | Found a staircase to the Lair. 15712 | D:12 | Reached skill level 10 in Fighting 15712 | D:12 | Reached skill level 10 in Shields 16062 | D:12 | Reached skill level 10 in Armour 16401 | D:12 | Was placed under penance by the Shining One 20782 | Lair:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts 20782 | Lair:1 | Found a glowing silver altar of Zin. 22231 | Lair:2 | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha. 22285 | Lair:1 | Reached skill level 11 in Maces & Flails 23007 | Lair:2 | Noticed a five-headed hydra 23070 | Lair:2 | Killed a five-headed hydra 23070 | Lair:2 | Reached XP level 13. HP: 101/101 MP: 22/22 23711 | Lair:3 | Found a staircase to the Shoals. 26524 | Lair:5 | Found a hole to the Spider Nest. 26831 | Lair:5 | Noticed Felagund's ghost (powerful DDAr) 27347 | Lair:5 | Killed Felagund's ghost 27496 | Lair:5 | Reached skill level 12 in Maces & Flails 27698 | Lair:5 | Noticed a four-headed hydra 27714 | Lair:5 | Killed a four-headed hydra 27905 | Lair:5 | Noticed Maud 30122 | Lair:6 | Noticed a death yak 30122 | Lair:6 | Noticed a death yak 30148 | Lair:6 | Noticed a death yak 30189 | Lair:6 | Killed a death yak 30411 | Lair:6 | Killed a death yak 30463 | Lair:6 | Killed a death yak 31793 | Lair:6 | Reached XP level 14. HP: 102/111 MP: 23/23 33463 | Lair:7 | Reached skill level 13 in Fighting 33972 | Lair:7 | Was forgiven by the Shining One 34033 | Lair:7 | Found a frozen archway. 34791 | Lair:8 | Entered Level 8 of the Lair of Beasts 35436 | Lair:8 | Found a staircase to the Slime Pits. 36244 | Lair:8 | Reached XP level 15. HP: 99/117 MP: 24/24 36866 | Lair:8 | Was placed under penance by the Shining One 37354 | Lair:8 | Reached skill level 14 in Fighting 41027 | D:13 | Was forgiven by the Shining One 41757 | D:13 | Found a snail-covered altar of Cheibriados. 43195 | D:13 | Reached XP level 16. HP: 119/127 MP: 25/25 43715 | D:14 | Entered Level 14 of the Dungeon 43726 | D:14 | Noticed Fannar 43752 | D:14 | Killed Fannar 43999 | D:14 | Found a blossoming altar of Fedhas. 44511 | D:14 | Noticed Kirke 44528 | D:14 | Killed Kirke 45108 | D:14 | Noticed Nessos 46222 | D:14 | Killed Nessos 46332 | D:14 | Reached skill level 15 in Fighting 46988 | D:15 | Entered Level 15 of the Dungeon 47012 | D:15 | Found Ysairos' Armour Shop. 47115 | D:15 | Reached skill level 15 in Armour 47884 | D:14 | Reached skill level 15 in Maces & Flails 48495 | D:15 | Gained mutation: You are partially covered in icy blue scales (AC +1). [mutagenic meat] 48496 | D:15 | Gained mutation: You have a slow metabolism. [mutagenic meat] 48774 | D:15 | You fall through a shaft! 48777 | D:18 | Found a staircase to the Vaults. 48920 | D:17 | Noticed a stone giant 48947 | D:17 | Reached XP level 17. HP: 135/135 MP: 25/25 48961 | D:17 | Noticed a stone giant 48976 | D:17 | Killed a stone giant 49007 | D:17 | Reached skill level 15 in Shields 49046 | D:17 | Killed a stone giant 49409 | D:17 | Noticed Norris 49439 | D:17 | Paralysed by Norris for 4 turns 49466 | D:17 | Killed Norris 49754 | D:17 | Noticed Azrael 49795 | D:17 | Killed Azrael 50728 | D:16 | Acquired the Shining One's third power 50847 | D:16 | Reached skill level 16 in Fighting 50862 | D:16 | Lost mutation: You have a slow metabolism. [mutagenic meat] 50863 | D:16 | Gained mutation: You possess an exceptional clarity of mind. [mutagenic meat] 51154 | D:16 | Gained mutation: Your mind is acute (Int +1). [mutagenic meat] 51155 | D:16 | Gained mutation: You can spit poison. [mutagenic meat] 51156 | D:16 | Gained mutation: Your muscles are strong, but stiff (Str +1, Dex -1). [mutagenic meat] 51157 | D:16 | Gained mutation: You are frail (-10% HP). [mutagenic meat] 51575 | D:16 | Found a burning altar of Makhleb. 51803 | D:16 | Reached XP level 18. HP: 120/130 MP: 26/26 53256 | D:18 | Found Doas Woi's Magical Wand Shoppe. 53265 | D:18 | Noticed Snorg 53343 | D:18 | Killed Snorg 54095 | D:18 | HP: 5/130 [titanic slime creature (80)] 55227 | D:18 | Noticed Louise 55291 | D:18 | Cast into the Abyss (wizard) 55675 | Abyss | Noticed a lich 55677 | Abyss | Noticed a profane servitor 55695 | Abyss | HP: 4/130 [something (8)] 55696 | Abyss | The Shining One protects you from harm! 55698 | Abyss | Killed a lich 55992 | Abyss | Noticed a lich 56008 | Abyss | Killed a lich 56253 | Abyss | Gained mutation: You are weak (Str -1). [a neqoxec] 56615 | Abyss | Found a corrupted altar of Lugonu. 56798 | Abyss | Gained mutation: Your vision is a little blurry. [a neqoxec] 56802 | Abyss | Gained mutation: You tend to lose your temper in combat. [a neqoxec] 57161 | Abyss | Found a corrupted altar of Lugonu. 57418 | Abyss | Got an abyssal rune of Zot 57614 | D:18 | Escaped the Abyss. 57634 | D:18 | Killed Louise 57874 | D:18 | Reached XP level 19. HP: 137/137 MP: 27/27 59704 | Orc:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Orcish Mines 60115 | Orc:2 | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh. 60936 | Orc:3 | Paralysed by an orc sorcerer for 4 turns 61294 | Orc:2 | You fall through a shaft! 61294 | Orc:4 | Entered Level 4 of the Orcish Mines 61358 | Orc:4 | Paralysed by an orc sorcerer for 3 turns 61568 | Orc:4 | Noticed Urug 61591 | Orc:4 | Killed Urug 61598 | Orc:4 | Noticed Josephine 61631 | Orc:4 | Killed Josephine 62680 | Orc:4 | Gained mutation: You often lose your temper in combat. [a neqoxec] 62729 | Orc:3 | Gained mutation: Your body is slowly deteriorating. [a neqoxec] 63798 | Orc:4 | Reached skill level 17 in Fighting 63813 | Orc:4 | Found Iruilokh's Jewellery Boutique. 63813 | Orc:4 | Found Shutepp's Distillery. 63925 | Orc:4 | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh. 64154 | Orc:4 | Bought a potion of berserk rage for 36 gold pieces 64154 | Orc:4 | Bought a potion of confusion for 12 gold pieces 64154 | Orc:4 | Bought a potion of resistance for 84 gold pieces 64154 | Orc:4 | Bought 2 potions of heal wounds for 72 gold pieces 64154 | Orc:4 | Bought a potion of curing for 24 gold pieces 64154 | Orc:4 | Bought a potion of curing for 24 gold pieces 64154 | Orc:4 | Bought a potion of curing for 24 gold pieces 64154 | Orc:4 | Bought a potion of heal wounds for 36 gold pieces 64154 | Orc:4 | Bought a potion of agility for 30 gold pieces 64154 | Orc:4 | Bought a potion of curing for 24 gold pieces 64154 | Orc:4 | Bought a potion of curing for 24 gold pieces 64181 | Orc:4 | Found Udeuwyam's Book Boutique. 64181 | Orc:4 | Found Sulicoz's Armour Emporium. 64328 | Orc:4 | Acquired the Shining One's fourth power 64705 | Orc:4 | Bought a +1 pair of dwarven boots for 103 gold pieces 64741 | Orc:4 | Found a staircase to the Elven Halls. 65211 | Orc:4 | Bought the ring of Tureoq {+Lev rPois Int+3} for 458 gold pieces 65212 | Orc:4 | Bought the amulet of Jeit {rMut -Cast rC+ rN+ Stlth++} for 702 gold pieces 66151 | D:19 | Cast into the Abyss (a Zot trap) 66226 | Abyss | Found a shimmering altar of Xom. 66630 | Abyss | Noticed a lich 67103 | D:19 | Escaped the Abyss. 67504 | Vaults:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Vaults 69366 | Vaults:2 | Found a magical portal. 69620 | WizLab | Entered a wizard's laboratory 69800 | WizLab | Reached XP level 20. HP: 63/146 MP: 29/29 70829 | Vaults:2 | Identified a scroll of acquirement 70935 | Vaults:2 | Found a staircase to the Crypt. 71451 | Vaults:2 | Noticed Rupert 71451 | Vaults:2 | Paralysed by Rupert for 4 turns 71488 | Vaults:2 | Killed Rupert 71555 | Vaults:2 | Gained mutation: Your muscles are very strong, but stiff (Str +2, Dex -2). [mutagenic meat] 71603 | Vaults:2 | Paralysed by a wizard for 4 turns 71718 | Vaults:2 | Paralysed by a great orb of eyes for 7 turns 71753 | Vaults:2 | Gained mutation: You can control translocations. [mutagenic meat] 71754 | Vaults:2 | Gained mutation: You passively map a small area around you. [mutagenic meat] 72417 | Vaults:3 | Noticed Aizul 72439 | Vaults:3 | Killed Aizul 75311 | Vaults:4 | Reached XP level 21. HP: 147/153 MP: 31/31 75454 | Vaults:4 | Found Ehiapeg's Magical Wand Shoppe. 76095 | Vaults:4 | Gained mutation: Your mind is acute (Int +2). [mutagenic meat] 78134 | D:19 | Lost mutation: You are frail (-10% HP). [mutagenic meat] 78136 | D:19 | Lost mutation: You are weak (Str -1). [mutagenic meat] 78138 | D:19 | Lost mutation: Your body is slowly deteriorating. [mutagenic meat] 78438 | D:19 | Reached skill level 18 in Fighting 79338 | D:20 | Entered Level 20 of the Dungeon 79623 | D:20 | Found an iron altar of Okawaru. 80236 | D:20 | Reached skill level 10 in Invocations 80480 | D:20 | Got a pair of smoking gloves 80484 | D:20 | Identified the +5 pair of gloves "Niunwa" (You found it on level 20 of the Dungeon) 80789 | D:20 | Lost mutation: Your vision is a little blurry. [mutagenic meat] 82688 | D:21 | Found a gateway to Hell. 83029 | D:22 | Reached XP level 22. HP: 169/181 MP: 33/33 83917 | D:22 | Found a shimmering altar of Xom. 84041 | D:22 | Reached skill level 1 in Dodging 85611 | D:23 | Found Taohufan's Jewellery Shoppe. 86303 | D:23 | Lost mutation: Your muscles are very strong, but stiff (Str +2, Dex -2). [mutagenic meat] 86304 | D:23 | Lost mutation: You can spit poison. [mutagenic meat] 89036 | D:23 | Reached XP level 23. HP: 178/189 MP: 34/34 90068 | D:23 | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging 91719 | D:10 | Lost mutation: Your muscles are strong, but stiff (Str +1, Dex -1). [potion of mutation] 91720 | D:10 | Gained mutation: You can translocate small distances at will. [potion of mutation] 91721 | D:10 | Gained mutation: You are partially covered in iridescent scales (AC +4). [potion of mutation] 91721 | D:10 | Gained mutation: You digest meat inefficiently. [potion of mutation] 91722 | D:10 | Lost mutation: Your mind is acute (Int +2). [potion of mutation] 91722 | D:10 | Gained mutation: You are weak (Str -1). [potion of mutation] 92125 | D:24 | Found a radiant altar of Vehumet. 92179 | D:24 | Found a one-way gate leading to the halls of Pandemonium. 92179 | D:24 | Found a one-way gate to the infinite horrors of the Abyss. 93005 | D:25 | Entered Level 25 of the Dungeon 93005 | D:25 | Found Casulout's Armour Emporium. 93031 | D:25 | Bought a +0 helmet for 42 gold pieces 93031 | D:25 | Bought a +0 cloak for 21 gold pieces 93430 | D:25 | Noticed Wiglaf 93465 | D:25 | Killed Wiglaf 94040 | D:25 | Reached skill level 19 in Armour 94358 | D:25 | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha. 94437 | D:25 | Noticed Boris 94438 | D:25 | Noticed Mennas 94448 | D:25 | Found Crueth's Magic Scroll Emporium. 95125 | D:25 | Found Awnafut's Jewellery Shop. 95141 | D:25 | Bought a scroll of identify for 32 gold pieces 95141 | D:25 | Bought a scroll of teleportation for 48 gold pieces 95141 | D:25 | Bought a scroll of recharging for 88 gold pieces 95142 | D:25 | Bought a scroll of enchant weapon I for 88 gold pieces 96266 | D:25 | Killed Boris 96330 | D:25 | Killed Mennas 96330 | D:25 | Was placed under penance by the Shining One 96876 | D:25 | Reached XP level 24. HP: 156/192 MP: 34/34 97369 | D:26 | Found Memn's Distillery. 97434 | D:26 | Bought a potion of magic for 105 gold pieces 97434 | D:26 | Bought a potion of curing for 30 gold pieces 97434 | D:26 | Bought a potion of restore abilities for 45 gold pieces 97434 | D:26 | Bought a potion of curing for 30 gold pieces 97434 | D:26 | Bought a potion of agility for 37 gold pieces 97434 | D:26 | Bought a potion of speed for 82 gold pieces 97434 | D:26 | Bought a potion of invisibility for 82 gold pieces 97434 | D:26 | Bought a potion of speed for 82 gold pieces 97434 | D:26 | Bought a potion of agility for 37 gold pieces 97434 | D:26 | Bought 2 potions of brilliance for 75 gold pieces 98932 | D:26 | Found Otaf's General Store. 99002 | D:26 | Bought a potion of curing for 34 gold pieces 99002 | D:26 | Bought a bread ration for 68 gold pieces 99002 | D:26 | Bought a scroll of teleportation for 51 gold pieces 99236 | D:27 | Entered Level 27 of the Dungeon 99682 | D:27 | Upgraded the game from 0.11.2 to 0.12.0 100592 | D:27 | Cast into the Abyss (a distortion unwield) 100592 | Abyss | Entered the Abyss 100673 | Abyss | Paralysed by accursed screaming for 1 turns 100786 | D:27 | Escaped the Abyss 102183 | D:27 | Gained mutation: You evolve. [mutagenic meat] 102184 | D:27 | Lost mutation: You evolve. [mutagenic meat] 103153 | D:27 | Reached XP level 25. HP: 182/200 MP: 35/35 104015 | D:11 | Noticed a five-headed hydra 104026 | D:11 | Killed a five-headed hydra 104672 | Shoals:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Shoals 105571 | Shoals:2 | Found Vimmecoe's Weapon Shop. 107704 | Shoals:3 | HP: 3/200 [harpy (4)] 107705 | Shoals:3 | Slain by a harpy Action | 1- 3 | 4- 6 | 7- 9 | 10-12 | 13-15 | 16-18 | 19-21 | 22-24 | 25-27 || total -------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------++------- Melee: Mace | 144 | 99 | | | | | | | || 243 Whip | | 47 | | | | | | | || 47 Hammer | | 29 | 487 | 1651 | 3490 | 3251 | 5707 | 2897 | || 17512 Flail | | | | 17 | | | | | || 17 Sabre | | | | | 114 | | | | || 114 Great mace | | | | | | | | 434 | 527 || 961 Dire flail | | | | | | | | 108 | || 108 Eveningstar | | | | | | | | 79 | || 79 Throw: Dart | | 5 | | 8 | | | | | || 13 Invok: Divine Shield | | | | | | 14 | 6 | 9 | 2 || 31 Cleansing Flame | | | | | | 8 | 3 | | || 11 Summon Divine War | | | | | | | | 6 | || 6 Abil: Evoke Berserk Rag | | 2 | 2 | 3 | 12 | 10 | | | || 29 Blink | | | | | | | | 7 | 3 || 10 Evoke Flight | | | | | | | | | 4 || 4 Evoke: Wand | | 1 | 2 | 14 | 22 | 2 | 29 | 3 | 5 || 78 Deck | | | | | 2 | | | | || 2 Use: Scroll | | 5 | 4 | 6 | 11 | 4 | 5 | 14 | 2 || 51 Potion | | | 2 | 1 | 13 | 16 | 4 | 20 | 11 || 67 Stab: Fleeing | | | | | | | | 1 | || 1

Any thoughts?

Edit 1: Forgot to mention i got my first rune, and it's my first time surviving the abyss. (Been there twice, the first time has been truly a nightmare, TSO had to save me once or twice, i don't really remember.)

Wednesday, 1st May 2013, 20:20 by BlackSheep

Slime creatures don't corrode armor. And penance is not the same thing as negative piety. If you ever reach zero piety, you are excommunicated.
Your weapon is terrible. Find a demon whip and have TSO bless it.
Why on earth are you carrying around 4 scrolls of enchant armour?

Wednesday, 1st May 2013, 20:25 by King_Felagund

Oh yeah i meant red jellies!
Well, i have no idea how much TSO was angry, but i remember the message i read on religion screen was quite morethreatening than usual. Still more than 10k turns seemed a lot to me!

Anyway in the sheet i have everything of value on me just because i went to pick them up to post the char sheet here, i dropped most of that consumable stuff again in D:10!
So the weapon sucks? I thought +6 +7 and speed was nice. Guess it's not.

Wednesday, 1st May 2013, 20:27 by cerebovssquire

Well +6/+7 and speed is nice, but a hammer is one of the worst mace types there is, so it barely compensates.

Wednesday, 1st May 2013, 22:03 by Amnesiac

if you had a good ring of slaying and something with +Dam, then I guess such a hammer would be ok... But in your case an eveningstar would be ideal, or a demon whip as blacksheep says, but it doesn't have a good strength weighting (only 20%), but it's easier to find... I think I'd manage to find an eveningstar and have enough enchant + vorpalize scrolls. I mean it could be blessed, but wouldn't it be nice to dammage more types of enemies?

Thursday, 2nd May 2013, 01:25 by BlackSheep

Amnesiac wrote:it doesn't have a good strength weighting (only 20%)

This is utterly unimportant.

Thursday, 2nd May 2013, 06:45 by Sandman25

BlackSheep wrote:
Amnesiac wrote:it doesn't have a good strength weighting (only 20%)

This is utterly unimportant.

I have just analyzed source code.
With Str 25 and Dex 13 the following happens:
1) For weapon with Str weight 0:
calc_stat_to_dam_base() returns 19 (25+(13-25)*10/20)
player_stat_modify_damage multiplies damage by (78+2*random2(19-11))/78 which on average results in 8/78 increase (slightly more than 10%)

2) For weapon with Str weight 10:
calc_stat_to_dam_base() returns 25 (25+(13-25)*0/20)
player_stat_modify_damage multiplies damage by (78+2*random2(25-11))/78 which on average results in 15/78 increase (slightly less than 20%).

The difference between 1 and 2 is less than 10% (7/78), almost irrelevant indeed.

Thursday, 2nd May 2013, 07:58 by Amnesiac

uuh, well I'm not that knowledgeable about melee ralated stuff, but what's the point in this str weighting then. If it doesn't affect damage much, then sacred scourge is indeed a better weapon, looking at the speed of it's attack.

Sandman25 wrote:Str weight 10

is it 100% or it's 10%? I'm guessing 100%, but if not, then it wouldn't be strange to have 10% difference. I didn't understand anything in your formula anyway, maybe I'm tired.

Thursday, 2nd May 2013, 08:04 by Sandman25

Amnesiac wrote:uuh, well I'm not that knowledgeable about melee ralated stuff, but what's the point in this str weighting then. If it doesn't affect damage much, then sacred scourge is indeed a better weapon, looking at the speed of it's attack.
Sandman25 wrote:Str weight 10

is it 100% or it's 10%? I'm guessing 100%, but if not, then it wouldn't be strange to have 10% difference.

It's 100%. 10 is max possible value which corresponds to 100%.

Code:: const int weight = weapon ? 10 - weapon_str_weight(*weapon) : 6;

Thursday, 2nd May 2013, 08:09 by Amnesiac

so what's this 7/78 value... it doesn't make sense to me. And to my previous question.. what's the point in str weigh... I thought the damage is quite proportional to it. Does it mean that 100% str weigh of giant spiked club doesn't give so much of advantage against, say, a tripple sword?

Thursday, 2nd May 2013, 08:20 by Sandman25

Amnesiac wrote:so what's this 7/78 value... it doesn't make sense to me. And to my previous question.. what's the point in str weigh... I thought the damage is quite proportional to it. Does it mean that 100% str weigh of giant spiked club doesn't give so much of advantage against, say, a tripple sword?

7/78 is the bonus multipler from stat. Here is full code, you can see that stat adds some bonus to 78 and then the value is divided by 78.

Code:: int melee_attack::player_stat_modify_damage(int damage) { int dammod = 78; const int dam_stat_val = calc_stat_to_dam_base(); if (dam_stat_val > 11) dammod += (random2(dam_stat_val - 11) * 2); else if (dam_stat_val < 9) dammod -= (random2(9 - dam_stat_val) * 3); damage *= dammod; damage /= 78; return damage; }

So if you use a weapon with 11 base damage, it will be increased to 13 (if str weight is 10) and to 12 (if str weight is 0) provided you get average rolls. Not a big deal actually but this value is later modified by fighting/weapon etc so finally it can be 39 vs 36 or something like that.

Thursday, 2nd May 2013, 08:30 by crate

in short it's extremely rare that you should care about the strength weighting of particular weapons (kind of an exception for ranged combat, where str actually matters for every weapon type), and for this reason crawl doesn't even tell you they exist any more

anyway you probably want a spiked flail for now, use a blessed demon whip or an eveningstar if you come across one of those.

alternatively turn off shields and drop the one you have and use a great mace but probably that's not really what this character wants to do

Thursday, 2nd May 2013, 08:33 by Amnesiac

eveningstar seems like a nice weapon anyway. it's roughly 30% slower, but deals like 20-25% more damage(I'm guessing from sandmans numbers from above), but the more damage you deal, the more goes through higher AC. Considering roleplaying I'd go with a sacred scourge for TSO and an eveningstar for,say, Okawaru.

Thursday, 2nd May 2013, 08:55 by Psieye

Amnesiac wrote:what's the point in this str weighting then. If it doesn't affect damage much

It's a common phenomenon in code development, especially in open source that has a long history like crawl. You can come across code ('features') that should really be crowbar'd out because it's obsolete and/or irrelevant but nobody has gotten round to doing it as it's low priority and must be done carefully in case it compromises the stability of the program. Exactly why that Str weighting was written for melee is beyond my knowledge, but given the above it's not hard to guess a few reasons.

King_Felagund wrote:So the weapon sucks? I thought +6 +7 and speed was nice. Guess it's not.

Base weapon type is the most important detail of all. For a hammer to be 'endgame worthy', it would need something like +18 on its damage modifier or have some really unusual property like the shillelagh. That hammer with that brand was good in the pre-Lair portion of the game. It's a shiny toy now.

Since you're on v0.11, you are constrained to looking for a demon whip (to turn into a sacred scourge through TSO blessing) or an evening star. The latter is extremely rare, the former you may need to prise off the fingers of a balrug or Hell-faction unique. Personally, I'd take off the shield and use a great mace for a while until I have one of those two 'endgame 1h mace' weapons.

Oh and please identify those scrolls. There's no reason to have that many unidentified scrolls at this point in the game. You mentioned your scrolls burning so I assume you don't have many ID scrolls left, but still - scroll-ID those unknown potions too.

Thursday, 2nd May 2013, 12:54 by King_Felagund

Thank you all for your answers.

In this walkthrough i haven't found many identify scrolls, no idea why, and even though i lost a lot of scrolls, none of them was of identify. Now i dropped most of my stuff in D:10, waiting for identify scrolls, but i have found 2 or 3 of them. (Now i reached XL 23, 80%.)

By the way, should i upgrade my crawl version? And my char can be imported?

Thursday, 2nd May 2013, 13:00 by Sandman25

You can upgrade by overwriting files in the same directory you installed crawl to. Then you will not need to import the char, it will be done automatically

Thursday, 2nd May 2013, 14:19 by BlackSheep

I would recommend you finish your character first. If you want to try out 0.12, put it in a new folder.

Thursday, 2nd May 2013, 14:59 by Psieye

Upgrading a major version means you can't import. Upgrading a minor version (i.e. trunk versions) does let you import.

Thursday, 2nd May 2013, 16:29 by rchandra

Psieye wrote:Upgrading a major version means you can't import. Upgrading a minor version (i.e. trunk versions) does let you import.

Actually some versions you can (0.9->0.10), some you can't (0.10->0.11). Haven't heard about 0.12 though.

Even when you can't import, you can finish your current guys then copy the morgue folder and high scores so the score table will be there.

Thursday, 2nd May 2013, 22:45 by Siegurt

I upgraded a character from 0.7 to 0.10... I don't know what the rules are

Also.. Yes more 10 points of Strength AND Dex is about 10% more damage, which fighting and weapon skills are then applied to. (a bit more but that's a close enough approximation for most people)

If your weapon and fighting are both 27, then you're looking at approximately 300% more damage in general, which means 30% more damage from 10 higher Strength AND Dex, which isn't a lot considering you only get 9 bonus stat points to allocate throughout your character's lifetime.

But, given the choice between two weapons which are otherwise roughly equivalent, you might as well pick the one with a higher STR weighting if you have a high STR compared to DEX, and a low STR weighting if you have a lower STR than DEX.

Thursday, 2nd May 2013, 23:19 by crate

But, given the choice between two weapons which are otherwise roughly equivalent

this situation doesn't exist in crawl

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