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Joined: Wednesday, 20th February 2013, 17:11

Post Thursday, 18th April 2013, 02:36

CiP: MiBe needs some advice

After a rocky start, things started going smoothly for this MiBe. I am about to head into the Vault and I am starting to train Traps and Doors. After that I figure Dodging and Evocation for my rods is in order.

I'm just trying for my first win, not going to be going into the extended game. I have a few questions about my gear.

1. My rings. +6/+4 slaying, Ring of Evasion +6 or a Ring of Regeneration. Which combination would be best for this character?

2. I've been using all my Enchant Armour/Weapon scrolls on my Storm Dragon Armour and my Exec Axe. I'm not sure if this is the logical thing to do, and that is my only Exec axe. All my other gives have been Broad axes or War axes.

3. Are the Bracers of Archery I'm wearing doing more harm than good for me? I'm only wearing them because they are +2.

Any answers to the above questions would be appreciated, or if you notice something else let me know! Dump is below.

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 Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.11.0 (tiles) character file.

Broken Horn the Executioner (Minotaur Berserker)   Turns: 29768, Time: 01:13:02

HP 133/133       AC 27     Str 27      XL: 15   Next: 93%
MP   5/5         EV 13     Int  7      God: Trog [*****.]
Gold 1746        SH  0     Dex 11      Spells:  0 memorised, 14 levels left

Res.Fire  : . . .   See Invis. : .   a - +4,+7 executioner's axe (flame) {god gift}
Res.Cold  : . . .   Warding    : .   Y - +3 storm dragon armour
Life Prot.: . . .   Conserve   : +   (no shield)
Res.Poison: .       Res.Corr.  : +   G - +0 wizard hat {Int+3}
Res.Elec. : +       Clarity    : .   d - +0 cloak {rCorr, Cons}
Sust.Abil.: . .     Spirit.Shd : .   Z - +2 pair of bracers {archer}
Res.Mut.  : .       Stasis     : .   A - +1 pair of boots
Res.Rott. : .       Ctrl.Telep.: .   y - amulet of the gourmand
Gourmand  : +       Levitation : .   I - +6 ring of evasion
                    Ctrl.Flight: .   x - ring of regeneration

@: somewhat resistant to hostile enchantments, extremely unstealthy
A: retaliatory headbutt, horns 2
a: Burn Spellbooks, Berserk, Trog's Hand, Brothers in Arms, Renounce Religion


You are on level 2 of the Lair of Beasts.
You worship Trog.
Trog is exalted by your worship.
You are very full.

You have visited 4 branches of the dungeon, and seen 28 of its levels.
You have also visited: Labyrinth, Sewer and Bailey.

You have collected 2284 gold pieces.
You have spent 558 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Hand weapons
 a - a +4,+7 executioner's axe of flaming (weapon) {god gift}
Armour
 d - a +0 cloak of preservation (worn)
 A - a +1 pair of boots (worn)
 G - a +0 wizard hat of intelligence (worn)
 Y - a +3 storm dragon armour (worn)
 Z - a +2 pair of bracers of archery (worn)
Magical devices
 j - a wand of fire {zapped: 3}
 p - a wand of digging (23)
 H - a wand of disintegration (7)
 K - a wand of fireball {zapped: 1}
Comestibles
 X - 2 apples
Scrolls
 l - 2 scrolls of fear
 q - 3 scrolls of remove curse
 v - 2 scrolls of magic mapping
 w - 5 scrolls of teleportation
 z - 4 scrolls of fog
 E - 2 scrolls of blinking
 J - 3 scrolls of identify
Jewellery
 n - a +6,+4 ring of slaying
 x - a ring of regeneration (left hand)
 y - an amulet of the gourmand (around neck)
 I - a +6 ring of evasion (right hand)
Potions
 e - 3 potions of curing
 g - 2 potions of might
 u - a potion of resistance
 B - a potion of porridge
 F - a potion of speed
 R - 2 potions of heal wounds
 W - 2 potions of agility
Rods
 P - a +4 rod of destruction [inacc,magma,cold] (14/14)
   (You found it in a labyrinth)
 V - a +3 rod of demonology (9/9)
   (You took it off a centaur on level 10 of the Dungeon)


   Skills:
 - Level 14.2 Fighting
 - Level 26.5 Axes
 - Level 14.5 Armour
 - Level 2.1 Dodging


You have 14 spell levels left.
You don't know any spells.

Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (15/27)            Temple (1/1) D:5             Orc (4/4) D:6
    Elf (0/3) Orc:4          Lair (8/8) D:10          Swamp (0/5) Lair:5
 Spider (0/5) Lair:5        Slime (0/6) Lair:8       Vaults (0/8) D:15

Altars:
Cheibriados
Elyvilon
Kikubaaqudgha
Makhleb
Okawaru
Trog
Vehumet
Xom
Beogh

Shops:
D:9: [  D:10: */  Orc:3: [  Orc:4: ****[+(([

Portals:
Hell: Lair:8
Volcano: Orc:4

Annotations
Lair:8 exclusion: door


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You reflexively headbutt those who attack you in melee.
You have a pair of horns on your head.


Message History

You drop 392 arrows.
You drop 17 arrows of flame.
You drop 18 poisoned arrows.
You drop 6 arrows of dispersal.
You see here a wand of flame {zapped: 4}.
You drop a wand of fire {zapped: 5}.
You drop a wand of fire.
You drop a wand of slowing {zapped: 6}.
You drop a +2 wizard hat.
Things that are here:
a wand of slowing {zapped: 6}; a wand of fire; a wand of fire {zapped: 5}; a wand of flame {zapped: 4}
Items here: %%%%%%
You drop 6 meat rations.
You drop 6 honeycombs.
You drop 3 beef jerkies.
You drop 3 lemons.
You drop 2 sausages.
Things that are here:
a wand of slowing {zapped: 6}; a wand of fire; a wand of fire {zapped: 5}; a wand of flame {zapped: 4}
You see here a +2 wizard hat.

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There are no monsters in sight!

Notes
Turn   | Place    | Note
--------------------------------------------------------------
     0 | D:1      | Broken Horn, the Minotaur Berserker, began the quest for the Orb.
     0 | D:1      | Reached XP level 1. HP: 19/19 MP: 0/0
   267 | D:1      | Reached skill level 4 in Axes
   319 | D:1      | Reached XP level 2. HP: 26/26 MP: 0/0
   544 | D:1      | Acquired Trog's second power
   643 | D:1      | Reached skill level 5 in Axes
   966 | D:2      | Reached XP level 3. HP: 26/33 MP: 1/1
  1554 | D:3      | Reached XP level 4. HP: 37/39 MP: 1/1
  1636 | D:3      | Found a glowing drain.
  1650 | D:3      | Reached skill level 6 in Axes
  1700 | Sewer    | Entered a sewer
  1781 | Sewer    | Reached XP level 5. HP: 40/46 MP: 1/1
  1821 | Sewer    | Reached skill level 7 in Axes
  2103 | Sewer    | Acquired Trog's third power
  2269 | Sewer    | Reached skill level 8 in Axes
  2269 | Sewer    | Reached XP level 6. HP: 50/52 MP: 2/2
  2335 | Sewer    | Noticed a giant frog
  2348 | Sewer    | Killed a giant frog
  2511 | D:3      | Noticed Ijyb
  2527 | D:3      | Killed Ijyb
  2837 | D:3      | Reached skill level 9 in Axes
  3226 | D:4      | Reached XP level 7. HP: 59/59 MP: 2/2
  3347 | D:4      | Noticed Sigmund
  3371 | D:4      | Killed Sigmund
  3458 | D:4      | Reached skill level 10 in Axes
  4587 | D:5      | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
  4646 | D:5      | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple.
  4749 | D:5      | Found a shimmering altar of Xom.
  5646 | Temple   | Entered the Ecumenical Temple
  5728 | D:6      | Found a white marble altar of Elyvilon.
  5749 | D:6      | Reached skill level 11 in Axes
  5749 | D:6      | Reached XP level 8. HP: 57/66 MP: 2/2
  6174 | D:6      | Reached skill level 12 in Axes
  6332 | D:6      | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines.
  6360 | D:6      | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh.
  6454 | D:6      | Received a gift from Trog
  6759 | D:7      | Noticed Prince Ribbit
  6768 | D:7      | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 3 turns
  6773 | D:7      | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 2 turns
  6912 | D:7      | Killed Prince Ribbit
  6912 | D:7      | Reached skill level 13 in Axes
  6912 | D:7      | Reached XP level 9. HP: 52/72 MP: 3/3
  7171 | D:7      | Reached skill level 14 in Axes
  7233 | D:7      | Got a warped scale mail
  7234 | D:7      | Identified the cursed -3 scale mail of the Guild-Master (You found it on level 7 of the Dungeon)
  7291 | D:7      | Noticed Pikel
  7299 | D:7      | Killed Pikel
  7440 | D:7      | Received a gift from Trog
  7440 | D:7      | Reached skill level 15 in Axes
  7579 | D:8      | Reached XP level 10. HP: 51/79 MP: 3/3
  7915 | D:8      | Found a burning altar of Makhleb.
  8222 | D:8      | Reached skill level 16 in Axes
  8910 | D:8      | Reached skill level 17 in Axes
  9266 | D:8      | Received a gift from Trog
  9687 | D:9      | Found Chamestead's Antique Armour Shoppe.
  9698 | D:9      | Reached skill level 18 in Axes
  9829 | D:9      | Found an iron altar of Okawaru.
 10162 | D:9      | Found a flagged portal.
 10221 | Bailey   | Entered a bailey
 10248 | Bailey   | Reached XP level 11. HP: 82/84 MP: 3/3
 10460 | Bailey   | Noticed a deep elf knight
 10478 | Bailey   | Killed a deep elf knight
 10478 | Bailey   | Reached skill level 19 in Axes
 10732 | D:10     | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon
 10827 | D:10     | Found a staircase to the Lair.
 10889 | D:10     | Noticed a siren
 10893 | D:10     | Found Foivyxel's Fishing Supplies.
 10903 | D:10     | Killed a siren
 11018 | D:10     | Bought a potion of levitation for 30 gold pieces
 11437 | D:10     | Noticed a hill giant
 11449 | D:10     | Killed a hill giant
 11449 | D:10     | Reached skill level 20 in Axes
 12090 | D:10     | Got an ancient sling
 12271 | D:10     | Identified a +3 rod of demonology (9/9) (You took it off a centaur on level 10 of the Dungeon)
 12273 | D:10     | Identified the +1,+5 sling "Greaschoa" (You found it on level 10 of the Dungeon)
 12384 | D:10     | Noticed Joseph
 12393 | D:10     | Killed Joseph
 12691 | D:10     | Found Zowauter's Magical Wand Boutique.
 12699 | D:10     | Bought a wand of magic darts (7) for 37 gold pieces
 12801 | Lair:1   | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts
 12946 | Lair:1   | Received a gift from Trog
 13450 | Lair:2   | Found a frozen archway.
 13619 | Lair:2   | Reached skill level 21 in Axes
 14684 | Lair:3   | Reached XP level 12. HP: 42/92 MP: 4/4
 14690 | Lair:3   | Received a gift from Trog
 14839 | Lair:3   | Identified a scroll of acquirement
 15028 | Lair:3   | You fall through a shaft!
 15037 | Lair:6   | Noticed a four-headed hydra
 15041 | Lair:6   | Reached skill level 22 in Axes
 15044 | Lair:6   | Killed a two-headed hydra
 15244 | Lair:6   | Noticed a six-headed hydra
 15249 | Lair:6   | Killed a four-headed hydra
 16263 | Lair:5   | Received a gift from Trog
 16544 | Lair:5   | Reached skill level 23 in Axes
 16933 | Lair:5   | Found a staircase to the Swamp.
 16990 | Lair:5   | Found a hole to the Spider Nest.
 17432 | Lair:4   | Noticed Harold
 17442 | Lair:4   | Killed Harold
 17490 | Lair:4   | Reached skill level 24 in Axes
 17890 | Lair:4   | Noticed an eight-headed hydra
 18047 | Lair:4   | Noticed Fannar
 18069 | Lair:4   | Killed Fannar
 18871 | Lair:7   | Reached XP level 13. HP: 95/97 MP: 4/4
 19046 | Lair:7   | Noticed a seven-headed hydra
 19053 | Lair:7   | Killed a four-headed hydra
 19389 | Lair:7   | Reached skill level 25 in Axes
 19579 | Lair:8   | Entered Level 8 of the Lair of Beasts
 19600 | Lair:8   | Noticed a five-headed hydra
 19608 | Lair:8   | Killed a two-headed hydra
 19742 | Lair:8   | Received a gift from Trog
 19833 | Lair:8   | Noticed a dire elephant
 19873 | Lair:8   | Noticed an azure jelly
 19873 | Lair:8   | Noticed an azure jelly
 19874 | Lair:8   | Found a staircase to the Slime Pits.
 20474 | Lair:8   | Killed a dire elephant
 20501 | Lair:8   | Noticed a crazed wizard
 20514 | Lair:8   | Killed a crazed wizard
 20519 | Lair:8   | Found a burning altar of Makhleb.
 20524 | Lair:8   | Reached skill level 26 in Axes
 20557 | Lair:8   | Found a gateway to Hell.
 20624 | Lair:8   | Noticed a four-headed hydra
 20631 | Lair:8   | Killed a one-headed hydra
 20672 | Lair:8   | Noticed a dire elephant
 20691 | Lair:8   | Killed a dire elephant
 21546 | Orc:1    | Entered Level 1 of the Orcish Mines
 21762 | Orc:2    | Noticed Urug
 21772 | Orc:2    | Killed Urug
 21772 | Orc:2    | Received a gift from Trog
 21924 | Orc:3    | Found Chut's Armour Emporium.
 21951 | Orc:3    | Bought a +0 cloak of preservation for 82 gold pieces
 22315 | Orc:3    | Reached skill level 5 in Armour
 22388 | Orc:4    | Entered Level 4 of the Orcish Mines
 22583 | Orc:4    | Found Weddun's Assorted Antiques.
 22611 | Orc:4    | Found a staircase to the Elven Halls.
 22644 | Orc:4    | Bought a white potion for 25 gold pieces
 22644 | Orc:4    | Bought a scroll of enchant weapon II for 154 gold pieces
 22663 | Orc:4    | Found Ipoazxai's General Store.
 22711 | Orc:4    | Found Isucun's Assorted Antiques.
 22743 | Orc:4    | Bought a scroll labeled FOQOIL MO MYBO for 32 gold pieces
 22765 | Orc:4    | Found Ylyxelibb's Antique Armour Shop.
 22774 | Orc:4    | Bought a dazzling cloak for 198 gold pieces
 22810 | Orc:4    | Found Casigumn's Assorted Antiques.
 22850 | Orc:4    | Reached XP level 14. HP: 105/105 MP: 4/4
 22995 | Orc:4    | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh.
 22998 | Orc:4    | Received a gift from Trog
 23477 | Orc:4    | Found Maeceif's Weapon Shoppe.
 23477 | Orc:4    | Found Braurch's Antique Weapon Boutique.
 23740 | Orc:4    | Found a dark tunnel.
 23879 | Orc:4    | Found Cuhir's Book Emporium.
 23881 | Orc:4    | Found Zugh's Armour Shop.
 23893 | Orc:4    | Identified the -1 cloak "Twuxkuu" (You bought it in a shop on level 4 of the Orcish Mines)
 24817 | D:11     | Noticed Nessos
 24822 | D:11     | Killed Nessos
 25084 | D:12     | Noticed Psyche
 25087 | D:12     | Killed Psyche
 25281 | D:12     | Reached skill level 10 in Armour
 25317 | D:12     | Noticed Gastronok
 25320 | D:12     | Noticed Erica
 25330 | D:12     | Killed Gastronok
 25330 | D:12     | Received a gift from Trog
 25337 | D:12     | Killed Erica
 26337 | D:13     | Received a gift from Trog
 26495 | D:13     | Noticed Sonja
 26530 | D:13     | Killed Sonja
 26792 | D:13     | Found a bloodstained altar of Trog.
 26988 | D:13     | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting
 27071 | D:14     | Entered Level 14 of the Dungeon
 27071 | D:14     | Found a labyrinth entrance.
 27084 | D:14     | Reached XP level 15. HP: 115/115 MP: 5/5
 27092 | Lab      | Entered a labyrinth
 27571 | D:14     | Noticed Agnes
 27574 | D:14     | Killed Agnes
 27664 | D:14     | Noticed Josephine
 27677 | D:14     | Killed Josephine
 27707 | D:14     | Noticed Azrael
 27811 | D:14     | Killed Azrael
 27848 | D:14     | Noticed an azure jelly
 27849 | D:14     | Noticed an azure jelly
 27849 | D:14     | Noticed an azure jelly
 27852 | D:14     | Noticed an acid blob
 27852 | D:14     | Noticed an azure jelly
 27854 | D:14     | Noticed an azure jelly
 27854 | D:14     | Noticed an azure jelly
 27855 | D:14     | Noticed an acid blob
 27856 | D:14     | Noticed an azure jelly
 28005 | D:14     | Reached skill level 10 in Fighting
 28080 | D:14     | Identified a +4 rod of destruction [inacc,magma,cold] (14/14) (You found it in a labyrinth)
 28115 | D:15     | Entered Level 15 of the Dungeon
 28122 | D:15     | Received a gift from Trog
 28342 | D:15     | Noticed Norris
 28349 | D:15     | Noticed Donald
 28359 | D:15     | Killed Norris
 28363 | D:15     | Killed Donald
 28391 | D:15     | Found a staircase to the Vaults.
 28394 | D:15     | Noticed Nikola
 28412 | D:15     | Killed Nikola
 28561 | D:15     | Paralysed by you for 6 turns

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Post Thursday, 18th April 2013, 03:31

Re: CiP: MiBe needs some advice

I would definitely ditch the regeneration ring for the ring of slaying. Boosting the executioner's axe is fine. Flame isn't my favorite brand, but it's a damn fine axe for a three rune run. I don't know what to tell you about the bracers of archery. I don't know how negatively it effects melee.
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Post Thursday, 18th April 2013, 04:24

Re: CiP: MiBe needs some advice

I wouldn't enchant the axe further (maybe one more EW1) as you will want scrolls for the inevitable antimagic executioner's axe. I wouldn't have enchanted the storm dragon armour but given that you have, might as well keep going. enchant the cloak of preservation first, though.

Slaying + evasion as default rings.

the bracers are like -1/-1 slaying in melee, and +5/+3 ranged. Probably still worth using. Speaking of +2 items, use the +2 wizard hat over the intelligence hat unless you're getting int drained.

I'd do more dungeon (to 18-20) and maybe even some or all of Swamp before entering vaults.
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Post Thursday, 18th April 2013, 06:59

Re: CiP: MiBe needs some advice

Storm Dragon Armour is basically plate armour with a little less EV penalty. Generally people prefer an rF plate armour or FDA because OOF is that scary. This just means you'll have to find some other means of getting to rF++ when fighting OOF - generic rings of rF will be fine.

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Post Thursday, 18th April 2013, 10:24

Re: CiP: MiBe needs some advice

Thanks for the replys. I will drop the regen ring in favor of the slaying ring.

I will save my enchant scrolls from now on, but in all of orc there was only one runed plate. I will head down and check it out. Also there is a +2 cloak of preservation for sale in Orc. Is it worth picking up for ~500 gold?

I was really hoping for a anti magic exec axe but this playthrough has been filled with hydras so I guess the fire brand is best for now.

Ive never been to swamp. Is it manageable for this Be right now? I don't know what to expect or what I might need.

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Post Thursday, 18th April 2013, 10:28

Re: CiP: MiBe needs some advice

Yes, but don't fight in water and don't do more than the first four levels.

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Post Thursday, 18th April 2013, 10:32

Re: CiP: MiBe needs some advice

Yes, cloak of preservation is great. Especially for MiBe.
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Post Thursday, 18th April 2013, 10:39

Re: CiP: MiBe needs some advice

swamp is full of hydras, swamp drakes with confusing breath(clarity or rPois helps), swamp dragons, and slime creatures. And water, so planning your encounters and retreats is important.

I'd buy the +2 cloak since you still want plenty of enchant scrolls for the storm dragon armour (or plate if it's better) and maybe boots/hat depending what you find.
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Post Thursday, 18th April 2013, 10:56

Re: CiP: MiBe needs some advice

I'd buy +0 cloak of preservation too. And maybe even -2. It's the best cloak in the game for me unless I am with Jiyva. The only item that replaces 2 amulets.

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Post Thursday, 18th April 2013, 11:18

Re: CiP: MiBe needs some advice

I'd rather have an rF cloak instead of preservation. It's a luxury item - good if you can get it, but there are other things that can replace it even if you do have it.

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Post Thursday, 18th April 2013, 12:02

Re: CiP: MiBe needs some advice

Psieye wrote:I'd rather have an rF cloak instead of preservation. It's a luxury item - good if you can get it, but there are other things that can replace it even if you do have it.


Depends on play style I guess. I will choose rF+ over rF++ for the sake of conservation. rF+ can be on 5 armour slots/weapon/2 rings, conservation can be on cloak/amulet only. Having it on cloak means I can use a rMut/Gourmand/Faith amulet.

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Post Thursday, 18th April 2013, 12:08

Re: CiP: MiBe needs some advice

I would probably choose a cloak of preservation over a cloak of rF+ because rF is relatively common and item destruction is annoying.

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Post Thursday, 18th April 2013, 12:46

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Cloak of preservation is the best item in the game. Yes, even over boots of running.

**** losing consumables, man. >_>

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Post Thursday, 18th April 2013, 13:19

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Post Thursday, 18th April 2013, 14:31

Re: CiP: MiBe needs some advice

Well there are situations where I would use a MR cloak over preservation because MR doesn't work like rF (and I did on some characters).
Having good EV really helps with conserving consumables though, as most destroying attacks can be dodged.

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Post Thursday, 18th April 2013, 15:18

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It is somewhat a moot point at this stage because the Cloaks of Preservation (+0 and +2) that are available to me are the only cloaks with egos I have found so far. I would definitely use something more useful if I had found it. I haven't found any resistances either, only a artefact flail with rN and rPoison and a ring of protection from cold.

There have been 3-4 fire drakes or dragons that I've killed so far, but none of them were kind enough to leave a hide behind when I butchered them. I am guessing I will have to hunt some resistances down eventually. Maybe Elf after Swamp and Vaults? Abusing Trog's hand to keep me from being Abyssed, but that won't be for a while yet.

For my progression I guess Swamp 1-4 -> D:20 -> Vault 7? Won't have a chance to play until later on tonight, just making plans and figuring things out.

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Post Thursday, 18th April 2013, 15:21

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Fire Drakes never leave hides, they are not dragons.

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Post Thursday, 18th April 2013, 15:31

Re: CiP: MiBe needs some advice

Elf is after D:27. Swamp isn't necessary until D:27, but a flaming axe MiBe with rPois (or Clarity or flight or several !curing) won't have as much problems.

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Post Thursday, 18th April 2013, 18:37

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Quake2Marine wrote:
For my progression I guess Swamp 1-4 -> D:20 -> Vault 7? Won't have a chance to play until later on tonight, just making plans and figuring things out.


I'd do
D:20 -> Spider:4 -> Vault:Crypt -> Crypt:5 -> Vault:7

Personally I don't feel like Swamp 1-4 are worth bothering with and just end up diving down to Swamp 5 for the rune once I'm ready for Zot, but ymmv.
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Post Friday, 19th April 2013, 01:12

Re: CiP: MiBe needs some advice

Sandman25 wrote:I'd buy +0 cloak of preservation too. And maybe even -2. It's the best cloak in the game for me unless I am with Jiyva. The only item that replaces 2 amulets.


I got an unID-ed +1 cloak of preservation on D:6 recently for 23 gold. I can't remember another purchase that gave me that much bang for my buck.

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