Vlad the VpEn^Kiku [CiP]

Tuesday, 9th April 2013, 18:14 by Sojiro

Yet another generic character. This is the last of the old .10 character I'd like to finish before moving on to the latest release. I found a dagger of pain lying on the ground, so I asked Kiku for a Necronomicon and learned Haunt. I've been raising Summoning for a while now, in order to be able to use it reliably. I stab most targets, shift to fighting with Pain if it's too weak to bother putting to sleep or I can't do it, and if the target is also immune to pain I use the quickblade (whose drain brand is most likely going to be useless). In order to deal with the Sphinxes from Tomb I swapped the regular Confuse with the mass version, it's a nice crowd control but a bit on the expensive side to deal with a lone monster.

I'm now cleaning the Lair sub-branches before getting ready to grab the runes. I'm not really sure where I should be putting my experience. Also I was thinking I should learn Levitation (or Flight) for Shoals, because rings of levitation are not reliable (and can't be extended! lost a good character to that once). I was thinking of handling dangerous Zot monsters (like OoF) with Haunt and Shadow Creatures which is very strong there.
I heard that the golden rune was easier than the silver one for a Kikuite, but this has NOT been my experience. Not sure if I should really bother with Tomb or not.

Code:: Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.10.4 character file. Vlad the Ninja (Vampire Enchanter) Turns: 72720, Time: 08:14:05 HP 148/148 (150) AC 12 Str 10 XL: 21 Next: 68% MP 39/39 EV 18 Int 26 God: Kikubaaqudgha [******] Gold 2394 SH 13 Dex 14 Spells: 14 memorised, 1 level left Res.Fire : + . . See Invis. : + a - +4 elf dagger (pain) Res.Cold : . . . Warding : . . D - +2 leather armour {rF+} Life Prot.: + . . Conserve : . C - +2 buckler of the Townfolk {Str+3 Int+2} Res.Acid. : . . . Res.Corr. : . U - +2 helmet Res.Poison: + Clarity : . H - +0 cloak {MR} Res.Elec. : . Spirit.Shd : . l - +1 pair of gloves of Impatience {+Inv rPoi Sust.Abil.: . . Stasis : . t - +0 pair of boots Res.Mut. : . Ctrl.Telep.: . j - amulet "Uzidgholu" {Faith MR} Res.Rott. : . Levitation : . I - +5,+6 ring of slaying Saprovore : . . . Ctrl.Flight: . r - ring of levitation @: incredibly resistant to hostile enchantments, uncannily stealthy A: bottle blood, fangs 3, see invisible, unbreathing a: Bat Form, Bottle Blood, Receive Corpses, Torment, Renounce Religion, Evoke Invisibility, Evoke Levitation You are on level 4 of the Swamp. You worship Kikubaaqudgha. Kikubaaqudgha is exalted by your worship. You are not thirsty. You have visited 9 branches of the dungeon, and seen 48 of its levels. You have visited the Abyss 1 time. You have visited 1 Labyrinth. You have visited 2 bazaars. You have visited 1 portal chamber: sewer. You have collected 4632 gold pieces. You have spent 2258 gold pieces at shops. Inventory: Hand weapons a - a +4,+4 elven dagger of pain (weapon) u - a +4,+6 quick blade of draining Armour l - the +1 pair of gloves of Impatience (worn) {+Inv rPois MR} (You found it on level 21 of the Dungeon) It protects you from poison. It increases your resistance to enchantments. It lets you turn invisible. t - a +0 pair of boots (worn) C - the +2 buckler of the Townfolk (worn) {Str+3 Int+2} (You found it on level 1 of the Crypt) It affects your strength (+3). It affects your intelligence (+2). D - a +2 leather armour of fire resistance (worn) H - a +0 cloak of magic resistance (worn) U - a +2 helmet (worn) Magical devices v - a wand of teleportation (5) x - a wand of fireball E - a wand of heal wounds {recharged} J - a wand of confusion K - a wand of digging X - a wand of disintegration Scrolls g - 6 scrolls of teleportation k - 4 scrolls of blinking o - 4 scrolls of identify p - 3 scrolls of fog w - 3 scrolls of remove curse y - a scroll of fear B - a scroll of recharging G - a scroll of vulnerability Jewellery b - a +4 ring of strength c - a +4 ring of intelligence e - a ring of strength h - an uncursed ring of magical power j - the amulet "Uzidgholu" (around neck) {Faith MR} (You found it in a Labyrinth) [amulet of faith] It increases your resistance to enchantments. m - the ring of the Shining Light {+Rage rPois MR Str+4} (You found it on level 1 of the Lair of Beasts) [ring of poison resistance] It affects your strength (+4). It increases your resistance to enchantments. It lets you go berserk. r - a ring of levitation (left hand) A - an uncursed ring of protection from cold I - a +5,+6 ring of slaying (right hand) L - an uncursed ring of wizardry Potions d - a potion of resistance f - 2 potions of restore abilities i - 5 potions of speed n - a brown potion {Brillance} s - 2 potions of might z - 11 potions of curing F - 3 potions of blood M - 9 potions of heal wounds O - 2 potions of agility Books q - a papyrus book {highlevel, Annihilation} This book is beyond your current level of understanding. Skills: - Level 10,6 Fighting - Level 10,7 Short Blades - Level 0,2 Slings - Level 0,7 Throwing - Level 1,0 Armour - Level 12,0 Dodging O Level 27 Stealth - Level 12,0 Stabbing - Level 5,5 Shields - Level 0,5 Traps & Doors - Level 15,1 Spellcasting - Level 16,0 Hexes - Level 1,1 Charms + Level 11,3 Summonings - Level 18,0 Necromancy - Level 3,1 Translocations - Level 2,3 Ice Magic - Level 0,2 Evocations You have one spell level left. You know the following spells: Your Spells Type Power Failure Level Hunger a - Agony Necr ########. 1% 5 None b - Sure Blade Hex/Chrm #######... 1% 2 None c - Mass Confusion Hex ########.. 1% 6 Honeycomb d - Dispel Undead Necr ########. 1% 5 None e - Pain Necr ##### 0% 1 None f - Regeneration Chrm/Necr #######... 1% 3 None g - Blink Tloc N/A 1% 2 None h - Recall Tloc/Summ N/A 1% 3 None i - Invisibility Hex ########. 1% 6 Honeycomb j - Haunt Summ/Necr #######... 10% 7 Honeycomb r - Animate Dead Necr N/A 1% 4 None s - Sublimation of Blood Necr ########.. 0% 2 None x - Summon Butterflies Summ #######.. 1% 1 None z - Ensorcelled Hibernat Ice/Hex ####### 1% 2 None Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations Branches: Dungeon (22/27) Temple (1/1) D:7 Orc (0/4) D:9 Lair (8/8) D:12 Swamp (4/5) Lair:3 Shoals (0/5) Lair:5 Slime (0/6) Lair:8 Vault (5/8) D:15 Blade (1/1) Vault:4 Crypt (5/5) Vault:3 Tomb (1/3) Crypt:3 Hell (1/1) Dis: Hell:1 Geh: Hell:1 Coc: Hell:1 Tar: Hell:1 Altars: Ashenzari Elyvilon Fedhas Kikubaaqudgha Makhleb Okawaru The Shining One Yredelemnul Zin Shops: D:5: = D:6: ( D:7: + D:11: / D:14: % Vault:3: ? Vault:4: ?(? Portals: Hell: D:21 D:22 Pan: D:22 Trove: Vault:1 (give +4,+5 demon whip) Annotations D:22 exclusion: door Swamp:3 exclusion: Roxanne, Roxanne Crypt:3 Khufu Crypt:5 exclusion: statue Hell Geryon Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations You can bottle blood from corpses. You have razor-sharp teeth.* You have supernaturally acute eyesight. You can survive without breathing.* Message History You enter the shallow water. Moving in this stuff is going to be slow. There is some shallow water here. The helpless electric eel fails to defend itself. You slice the electric eel like a ripe choko!!! You kill the electric eel! Kikubaaqudgha accepts your kill. There is some shallow water here. There is some shallow water here. There is some shallow water here. There is some shallow water here. Move the cursor to view the level map, or type ? for a list of commands. Returning to the game... You enter the shallow water. Moving in this stuff is going to be slow. 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Grand Total: 2287 creatures vanquished Notes Turn | Place | Note -------------------------------------------------------------- 0 | D:1 | Vlad, the Vampire Enchanter, began the quest for the Orb. 0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 1. HP: 13/13 MP: 4/4 444 | D:1 | Reached XP level 2. HP: 19/19 MP: 5/5 448 | D:1 | Learned a level 2 spell: Ensorcelled Hibernation 559 | D:1 | Reached skill level 5 in Hexes 1031 | D:2 | Reached XP level 3. HP: 22/24 MP: 5/7 1360 | D:2 | Noticed Ijyb 1722 | D:2 | Learned a level 3 spell: Confuse 1928 | D:2 | Killed Ijyb 1928 | D:2 | Reached XP level 4. HP: 8/30 MP: 1/9 2216 | D:3 | Found a basalt altar of Yredelemnul. 2309 | D:3 | Found a blossoming altar of Fedhas. 2762 | D:3 | Learned a level 2 spell: Sure Blade 3155 | D:2 | Reached skill level 6 in Hexes 3212 | D:3 | Reached skill level 1 in Ice Magic 3212 | D:3 | Reached XP level 5. HP: 26/35 MP: 6/11 3513 | D:4 | Found a burning altar of Makhleb. 3570 | D:4 | Noticed Eustachio 3825 | D:4 | Killed Eustachio 3825 | D:4 | Reached XP level 6. HP: 23/41 MP: 0/15 4195 | D:4 | Reached skill level 1 in Charms 4276 | D:4 | Reached XP level 7. HP: 44/46 MP: 9/17 4393 | D:4 | Noticed Sigmund 4401 | D:4 | Killed Sigmund 4555 | D:4 | Noticed Scourge's ghost (experienced MiCK) 4661 | D:4 | Noticed Blork the orc 4791 | D:4 | Killed Blork the orc 4791 | D:4 | Reached skill level 5 in Stabbing 4853 | D:4 | Noticed Menkaure 4868 | D:4 | Killed Menkaure 4976 | D:4 | Reached skill level 1 in Armour 5070 | D:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon 5083 | D:5 | Reached skill level 7 in Hexes 5092 | D:5 | HP: 2/46 [orc/orcish falchion (4)] 5136 | D:5 | Reached skill level 5 in Spellcasting 5327 | D:5 | Found a glowing drain. 5382 | D:5 | Found Niamior's Jewellery Emporium. 5455 | sewer | Entered the sewers 6182 | sewer | Reached XP level 8. HP: 52/52 MP: 11/19 6235 | sewer | HP: 1/52 [giant frog (2)] 6534 | D:5 | Found a glowing silver altar of Zin. 6599 | D:5 | Reached skill level 8 in Hexes 7394 | D:6 | Found Ineyst's Antique Weapon Shop. 8057 | D:6 | Noticed an oklob plant 8222 | D:7 | Found Gofou's Book Boutique. 8452 | D:6 | Reached skill level 9 in Hexes 8501 | D:7 | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha. 8509 | D:7 | Became a worshipper of Kikubaaqudgha 8558 | D:7 | Reached XP level 9. HP: 53/57 MP: 11/21 8698 | D:7 | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple. 8714 | Temple | Entered the Ecumenical Temple 8759 | Temple | Learned a level 6 spell: Invisibility 9281 | D:8 | Noticed Edmund 9289 | D:8 | Killed Edmund 9341 | D:8 | Acquired Kikubaaqudgha's first power 9341 | D:8 | Received a gift from Kikubaaqudgha 9341 | D:8 | Reached skill level 10 in Hexes 9347 | D:8 | Learned a level 1 spell: Pain 9353 | D:8 | Learned a level 3 spell: Regeneration 9888 | D:8 | Noticed Erolcha 10076 | D:8 | Reached skill level 1 in Necromancy 10222 | D:9 | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines. 10484 | D:9 | Found a glowing silver altar of Zin. 10573 | D:9 | Acquired Kikubaaqudgha's second power 10648 | D:9 | Reached XP level 10. HP: 61/63 MP: 7/24 10665 | D:9 | Found a white marble altar of Elyvilon. 10732 | D:9 | Reached skill level 11 in Hexes 10755 | D:9 | Found a shattered altar of Ashenzari. 11132 | D:10 | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon 11386 | D:10 | Found a blossoming altar of Fedhas. 11626 | D:10 | Noticed Grum 11673 | D:10 | Killed Grum 11673 | D:10 | Received a gift from Kikubaaqudgha 11683 | D:10 | Learned a level 2 spell: Sublimation of Blood 11875 | D:10 | Noticed Erica 11883 | D:10 | Reached skill level 10 in Stabbing 11888 | D:10 | Killed Erica 11888 | D:10 | Reached skill level 12 in Hexes 12092 | D:9 | Learned a level 4 spell: Animate Dead 12243 | D:11 | Found Loileote's Magical Wand Shoppe. 12443 | D:11 | Reached XP level 11. HP: 59/68 MP: 25/27 12524 | D:11 | Reached skill level 13 in Hexes 12639 | D:11 | HP: 2/68 [giant gecko (2)] 13052 | D:12 | Noticed Maurice 13057 | D:12 | Killed Maurice 13134 | D:12 | Noticed Joseph 13137 | D:12 | Killed Joseph 13174 | D:12 | Reached skill level 14 in Hexes 13181 | D:12 | Found a labyrinth entrance. 13190 | Lab | Entered a Labyrinth 13774 | Lab | Reached skill level 10 in Spellcasting 13776 | Lab | Got a sparkling jade amulet 13776 | Lab | Got a conspicuous book 13861 | D:12 | Noticed Nessos 13872 | D:12 | Killed Nessos 14038 | D:12 | Found a staircase to the Lair. 14096 | D:12 | Identified the amulet "Uzidgholu" (You found it in a Labyrinth) 14332 | D:12 | Acquired Kikubaaqudgha's third power 14332 | D:12 | Received a gift from Kikubaaqudgha 14371 | D:12 | Noticed Gastronok 14395 | Lair:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts 14570 | Lair:1 | Reached skill level 5 in Necromancy 15471 | Lair:1 | Identified the Almanac of Beguiling (You found it in a Labyrinth) 15511 | Lair:1 | Acquired Kikubaaqudgha's fourth power 16006 | Lair:2 | Learned a level 5 spell: Dispel Undead 16029 | Lair:2 | Reached XP level 12. HP: 67/74 MP: 30/30 16102 | Lair:2 | Learned a level 5 spell: Agony 16148 | Lair:2 | Reached skill level 1 in Shields 16429 | Lair:1 | Got a slimy chain mail 16431 | Lair:1 | Got a crude wooden ring 16433 | Lair:1 | Got a vibrating iron ring 16675 | Lair:2 | Identified the ring of the Shining Light (You found it on level 1 of the Lair of Beasts) 17170 | D:12 | Killed Gastronok 17854 | D:8 | Killed Erolcha 19253 | Lair:3 | Found a staircase to the Swamp. 19976 | Lair:4 | Reached skill level 10 in Stealth 21161 | Lair:5 | Found a staircase to the Shoals. 21289 | Lair:5 | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging 21298 | Lair:5 | Reached XP level 13. HP: 79/79 MP: 25/31 21844 | Lair:5 | Paralysed by a potion of paralysis for 4 turns 22061 | Lair:6 | Reached skill level 10 in Dodging 23415 | Lair:6 | Reached skill level 5 in Short Blades 23862 | Lair:8 | Entered Level 8 of the Lair of Beasts 24377 | Lair:8 | Found a staircase to the Slime Pits. 25155 | Lair:8 | Reached XP level 14. HP: 66/85 MP: 27/32 25731 | Lair:8 | Reached skill level 10 in Short Blades 26975 | D:13 | Found a flickering gateway to a bazaar. 26989 | bazaar | Entered a bazaar 26989 | bazaar | Found Streriexa's Book Shoppe. 26989 | bazaar | Found Uruakuso's Weapon Boutique. 26989 | bazaar | Found Caeruodu's Antique Weapon Shop. 26990 | bazaar | Found Cheilas' Magical Wand Shoppe. 26991 | bazaar | Found Kliwat's Antique Weapon Emporium. 27052 | bazaar | Bought a book of Spatial Translocations for 455 gold pieces 27056 | bazaar | Learned a level 2 spell: Blink 27577 | D:13 | Reached skill level 15 in Stealth 28388 | D:13 | Noticed a bone dragon 28437 | D:13 | Killed a bone dragon 28437 | D:13 | Reached skill level 5 in Shields 28585 | D:13 | Got a bone long sword 28586 | D:13 | Identified the cursed Sword of Zonguldrok {reap, Curse} (You found it on level 13 of the Dungeon) 28713 | D:14 | Entered Level 14 of the Dungeon 28858 | D:14 | Found Phus' Food Shoppe. 29251 | D:14 | Reached skill level 10 in Necromancy 29453 | D:15 | Entered Level 15 of the Dungeon 29512 | D:15 | Reached skill level 16 in Stealth 29516 | D:15 | Noticed a glowing orcish flail 29518 | D:15 | Found a staircase to the Vaults. 29520 | D:15 | Noticed a scimitar 29529 | D:15 | Killed a glowing orcish flail 29532 | D:15 | Killed a scimitar 29896 | D:15 | Reached skill level 17 in Stealth 30869 | D:15 | Reached XP level 15. HP: 67/90 MP: 21/33 32558 | D:17 | Reached skill level 1 in Translocations 33288 | D:17 | You are cast into the Abyss! 33288 | D:17 | Cast into the Abyss (centaur) 33288 | Abyss | Entered The Abyss 33337 | Abyss | Noticed an unborn deep dwarf 33840 | Abyss | Noticed a death drake 33904 | Abyss | Noticed an octopode 34327 | Abyss | Noticed a flayed ghost 34329 | Abyss | Killed a flayed ghost 34441 | Abyss | Noticed a naga warrior 34455 | Abyss | Killed a naga warrior 34757 | Abyss | Gained mutation: You occasionally shout uncontrollably. 34767 | Abyss | Noticed a green ugly thing 34778 | Abyss | Noticed a green ugly thing 34832 | D:17 | You pass through the gate. 35362 | D:18 | Found a flickering gateway to a bazaar. 35369 | bazaar | Entered a bazaar 35369 | bazaar | Found Bof Sko's General Store. 35461 | bazaar | Found Wiwulom's Magic Scroll Emporium. 35481 | bazaar | Found Taunoag's Antique Armour Emporium. 35482 | bazaar | Found Heliv's Antique Weapon Boutique. 35499 | bazaar | Found Puiffuixt's Magical Wand Boutique. 35508 | bazaar | Bought a wand of teleportation (5) for 297 gold pieces 35520 | bazaar | Bought a scroll of enchant armour for 49 gold pieces 35532 | bazaar | Bought a scroll of enchant weapon I for 77 gold pieces 35810 | D:18 | Reached skill level 15 in Necromancy 36598 | D:19 | Noticed a deep elf mage 36601 | D:19 | Noticed a deep elf conjurer 36607 | D:19 | Killed a deep elf mage 36610 | D:19 | Killed a deep elf conjurer 36610 | D:19 | Reached XP level 16. HP: 46/96 MP: 30/35 36933 | D:19 | Noticed a deep elf priest 36939 | D:19 | Killed a deep elf priest 37212 | D:20 | Entered Level 20 of the Dungeon 37705 | D:20 | Found a basalt altar of Yredelemnul. 37970 | D:20 | Found an iron altar of Okawaru. 38873 | D:21 | HP: 4/96 [yaktaur[a yaktaur captain] (10)] 39539 | D:22 | Noticed a deep elf mage 39539 | D:22 | Noticed a deep elf priest 39542 | D:22 | Noticed a deep elf priest 39658 | D:22 | Killed a deep elf priest 39738 | D:22 | Killed a deep elf priest 39985 | D:21 | Got a pair of pitted gloves 39989 | D:21 | Identified the +1 pair of gloves of Impatience (You found it on level 21 of the Dungeon) 40070 | D:21 | Found a gateway to Hell. 40081 | Hell | Entered the Vestibule of Hell 40081 | Hell | Noticed Geryon 40437 | D:22 | Killed a deep elf mage 40690 | D:22 | Noticed a deep elf death mage 40712 | D:22 | Killed a deep elf death mage 40723 | D:22 | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha. 41554 | D:22 | Learned a level 1 spell: Summon Butterflies 41865 | D:22 | Reached XP level 17. HP: 101/101 MP: 24/37 42284 | D:22 | Lost mutation: You occasionally shout uncontrollably. 42290 | D:22 | Found a one-way gate leading to the halls of Pandemonium. 42775 | D:22 | Noticed a deep elf death mage 42798 | D:22 | Killed a deep elf death mage 42881 | D:22 | Noticed a deep elf death mage 42886 | D:22 | Killed a deep elf death mage 42886 | D:22 | Reached skill level 15 in Spellcasting 43376 | D:22 | Reached skill level 18 in Necromancy 43479 | D:22 | Reached skill level 1 in Summonings 44646 | D:6 | Killed an oklob plant 44706 | D:4 | Killed Scourge's ghost 44961 | Vault:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Vaults 45169 | Vault:1 | Reached skill level 5 in Summonings 45728 | Vault:1 | Found a portal to a secret trove of treasure. 47500 | Vault:3 | Noticed Kirke 47508 | Vault:3 | Killed Kirke 47966 | Vault:2 | Reached skill level 19 in Stealth 48245 | Vault:3 | Found a staircase to the Crypt. 48268 | Vault:3 | Found Ulatra's Magic Scroll Shop. 48414 | Vault:3 | Noticed an earth elemental 48417 | Vault:3 | Killed an earth elemental 48617 | Vault:3 | Reached XP level 18. HP: 84/107 MP: 34/38 48765 | Crypt:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Crypt 49094 | Crypt:1 | Reached skill level 20 in Stealth 49518 | Crypt:1 | Noticed Norris 49537 | Crypt:1 | Killed Norris 49971 | Vault:4 | Noticed Saint Roka 50268 | Vault:4 | Found Teoffar's Magic Scroll Shoppe. 50440 | Vault:4 | Found Tiloexinn's Weapon Boutique. 50467 | Vault:4 | Found Xummifof's Antique Armour Emporium. 50478 | Vault:4 | Reached skill level 21 in Stealth 50508 | Vault:4 | Xummifof's Antique Armour Emporium was a mimic. 50982 | Crypt:1 | Noticed Louise 51060 | Crypt:1 | Killed Louise 52288 | Crypt:2 | Reached skill level 22 in Stealth 53139 | Crypt:3 | Noticed Wiglaf 53163 | Crypt:3 | Killed Wiglaf 53331 | Crypt:3 | Noticed Agnes 53339 | Crypt:3 | Killed Agnes 53425 | Crypt:3 | Reached skill level 23 in Stealth 53478 | Crypt:3 | Noticed Frederick 53484 | Crypt:3 | Killed Frederick 53817 | Crypt:3 | Reached XP level 19. HP: 81/112 MP: 38/38 54414 | Crypt:3 | HP: 3/110 [sphinx (16)] 54907 | Crypt:3 | Reached skill level 24 in Stealth 55166 | Crypt:3 | Found a staircase to the Tomb. 55244 | Crypt:3 | Noticed Khufu 55940 | Vault:4 | Found a staircase to the Hall of Blades. 55951 | Blade | Entered the Hall of Blades 56309 | Blade | Reached skill level 25 in Stealth 56902 | Vault:4 | Killed Saint Roka 57286 | Crypt:4 | Reached skill level 26 in Stealth 58430 | Crypt:1 | Got a faintly humming buckler 58751 | Crypt:4 | Identified the +2 buckler of the Townfolk (You found it on level 1 of the Crypt) 58780 | Crypt:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Crypt 59391 | Crypt:5 | Reached skill level 27 in Stealth 59554 | Crypt:5 | Reached skill level 1 in Fighting 60717 | Crypt:5 | Reached XP level 20. HP: 86/125 MP: 34/39 61371 | Crypt:5 | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting 62770 | D:16 | Learned a level 3 spell: Recall 64082 | Vault:4 | Found Chirerph's Magic Scroll Shop. 64419 | Vault:5 | Found a glowing golden altar of the Shining One. 64547 | Vault:5 | Noticed Mennas 64585 | Vault:5 | Killed Mennas 64994 | Vault:5 | Noticed Boris 65156 | Vault:5 | Killed Boris 65735 | D:7 | Bought a Necronomicon for 1380 gold pieces 65745 | D:7 | Learned a level 7 spell: Haunt 65861 | Lair:2 | Learned a level 6 spell: Mass Confusion 66176 | Crypt:3 | Upgraded the game from 0.10.0 to 0.10.4 66177 | Tomb:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Tomb of the Ancients 66248 | Tomb:1 | Noticed Xtahua 66254 | Tomb:1 | Killed Xtahua 66260 | Tomb:1 | Noticed Boris 66269 | Tomb:1 | Killed Boris 66669 | Tomb:1 | Reached skill level 15 in Hexes 67065 | Tomb:1 | Reached XP level 21. HP: 104/144 MP: 29/39 68636 | Crypt:2 | Reached skill level 10 in Fighting 68637 | Crypt:2 | Reached skill level 10 in Summonings 69043 | Swamp:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Swamp 69850 | Swamp:2 | Noticed Nikola 70863 | Swamp:2 | Killed Nikola 71090 | Swamp:3 | Noticed Roxanne 72366 | Swamp:4 | Noticed Rupert 72376 | Swamp:4 | Killed Rupert

Wednesday, 10th April 2013, 06:09 by Sandman25

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Thursday, 11th April 2013, 07:12 by Sojiro

That wasn't very helpful ...

I know this is a very generic character that most forumites must be bored with, but it's my first time getting a Vampire to the Vaults, or a Kiku-ite in the deep Dungeon. And if I can win with that guy, I'll improve my Streak record to 3!
Right now my main problems are armour and skill selection. For equipment the problem is that I haven't really found anything good : robes of MR and rF, leather of rF and troll, a -1 cloak of MR. I have artifact gloves ( +1 pair of gloves of Impatience (worn) {+Inv rPois MR} ) whose egos are mostly useless since I'm a bloodless vampire with Invisibility spell and several pieces of artifact MR jewelry, but no other magical gloves so they're the default choice. No branded helmet, or magical boots. Only 3 ?ea over the entire Dungeon, so if I bring the MR cloak to +2 or the troll leather to +5 I'll be fresh out. Should I read the ?acquirement for armor? TLA isn't the best but the AC is better than the other choices and I could use the regen when I chug my only !blood to heal (healing while Very Thirsty/Near Bloodless isn't very fast). I'm pretty annoyed by my cloak being corroded and I'd like to improve that, but MR is definitely not the best ego for me and I don't have lots of scrolls to spare.

As for skill selection, I would normally train Charms now, but I have not found Haste anywhere ; I could still train it to be ready to use it as soon I as find it, but that doesn't strike me as great idea. Fighting & Dodging are obvious choices since they are always useful ; I'd normally chose Fighting over Dodging now since it's significantly lower level but as a Bloodless vamp it's better to avoid getting hit than having more HPs so I'm not sure. Hexes would give me more Mass Confuse spell power, which can be mighty useful. Similarly Necro would give me more Haunt spell power and better Kiku abilities.

As for my travel plans, I'm going to do Orc (I just noticed I had forgotten to do it), then Swamp:5 rune, then D:27, then the 3rd rune (probably silver).

Code:: Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.10.4 character file. Vlad the Ninja (Vampire Enchanter) Turns: 95002, Time: 10:41:00 HP 146/160 (164) AC 11 Str 10 XL: 23 Next: 98% MP 39/42 EV 21 Int 29 God: Kikubaaqudgha [******] Gold 3241 SH 13 Dex 14 Spells: 15 memorised, 1 level left Res.Fire : + . . See Invis. : + a - +6 elf dagger (pain) Res.Cold : + + . Warding : . . D - +2 leather armour {rF+} Life Prot.: + + + Conserve : . C - +2 buckler of the Townfolk {Str+3 Int+2} Res.Acid. : . . . Res.Corr. : . U - +2 helmet Res.Poison: + Clarity : . H - -1 cloak {MR} Res.Elec. : . Spirit.Shd : . l - +1 pair of gloves of Impatience {+Inv rPoi Sust.Abil.: . . Stasis : . t - +0 pair of boots Res.Mut. : . Ctrl.Telep.: . j - amulet "Uzidgholu" {Faith MR} Res.Rott. : + Levitation : . I - +5,+6 ring of slaying Saprovore : . . . Ctrl.Flight: . G - ring of the Mage {Wiz MR Int+3} @: non-regenerating, uncannily resistant to hostile enchantments, uncannily stealthy A: bottle blood, fangs 3, see invisible, unbreathing a: Bat Form, Bottle Blood, Receive Corpses, Torment, Renounce Religion, Evoke Invisibility }: 1/15 runes: barnacled You are on level 5 of the Crypt. You worship Kikubaaqudgha. Kikubaaqudgha is exalted by your worship. You are bloodless. You have visited 10 branches of the dungeon, and seen 58 of its levels. You have visited the Abyss 1 time. You have visited 1 Labyrinth. You have visited 2 bazaars. You have visited 1 portal chamber: sewer. You have collected 5717 gold pieces. You have spent 2496 gold pieces at shops. Inventory: Hand weapons a - a +6,+6 elven dagger of pain (weapon) u - a +4,+6 quick blade of draining y - the +7,+7 Singing Sword (You found it on level 5 of the Crypt) Armour l - the +1 pair of gloves of Impatience (worn) {+Inv rPois MR} (You found it on level 21 of the Dungeon) It protects you from poison. It increases your resistance to enchantments. It lets you turn invisible. n - a +2 troll leather armour t - a +0 pair of boots (worn) C - the +2 buckler of the Townfolk (worn) {Str+3 Int+2} (You found it on level 1 of the Crypt) It affects your strength (+3). It affects your intelligence (+2). D - a +2 leather armour of fire resistance (worn) H - a -1 cloak of magic resistance (worn) U - a +2 helmet (worn) Magical devices b - a wand of teleportation v - a wand of teleportation (5) E - a wand of heal wounds {recharged} K - a wand of digging S - a wand of fireball {zapped: 1} X - a wand of disintegration Scrolls d - a scroll of enchant armour g - 5 scrolls of teleportation k - a scroll of vulnerability p - 2 scrolls of fog w - a scroll of remove curse x - a scroll of magic mapping Jewellery j - the amulet "Uzidgholu" (around neck) {Faith MR} (You found it in a Labyrinth) [amulet of faith] It increases your resistance to enchantments. m - the ring of the Shining Light {+Rage rPois MR Str+4} (You found it on level 1 of the Lair of Beasts) [ring of poison resistance] It affects your strength (+4). It increases your resistance to enchantments. It lets you go berserk. r - an uncursed ring of levitation A - an uncursed ring of protection from cold G - the ring of the Mage (left hand) {Wiz MR Int+3} (You found it on level 6 of the Vaults) [ring of wizardry] It affects your intelligence (+3). It increases your resistance to enchantments. I - a +5,+6 ring of slaying (right hand) L - an uncursed ring of wizardry N - the ring of Fyogomur {SustAb Str-2 Int+4} (You found it on level 5 of the Shoals) [ring of sustain abilities] It affects your strength (-2). It affects your intelligence (+4). Potions c - 2 potions of blood f - 3 potions of restore abilities h - 2 potions of magic i - 2 potions of speed s - a potion of might z - 3 potions of curing M - 5 potions of heal wounds O - 2 potions of agility Books o - a book of Unlife Spells Type Level *Recall Summoning/Translocation 3 *Animate Dead Necromancy 4 Control Undead Necromancy 4 Twisted Resurrection Necromancy 5 Simulacrum Ice/Necromancy 6 Death Channel Necromancy 7 q - a book of Clouds Spells Type Level Evaporate Fire/Transmutation 2 Mephitic Cloud Conjuration/Poison/Air 3 Conjure Flame Conjuration/Fire 3 Poisonous Cloud Conjuration/Poison/Air 6 Freezing Cloud Conjuration/Ice/Air 6 Ring of Flames Charms/Fire 7 Skills: - Level 10,6 Fighting - Level 10,7 Short Blades - Level 0,2 Slings - Level 0,7 Throwing - Level 1,0 Armour + Level 15,4 Dodging O Level 27 Stealth - Level 16,2 Stabbing - Level 5,5 Shields - Level 6,0 Traps & Doors - Level 16,7 Spellcasting - Level 16,0 Hexes - Level 1,1 Charms - Level 12,0 Summonings - Level 18,0 Necromancy - Level 3,1 Translocations - Level 2,3 Ice Magic - Level 0,2 Evocations You have one spell level left. You know the following spells: Your Spells Type Power Failure Level Hunger a - Agony Necr ########. 1% 5 None b - Sure Blade Hex/Chrm #######... 1% 2 None c - Mass Confusion Hex ########.. 1% 6 Choko d - Dispel Undead Necr ########. 1% 5 None e - Animate Dead Necr N/A 0% 4 None f - Regeneration Chrm/Necr #######... 1% 3 None g - Blink Tloc N/A 1% 2 None h - Haunt Summ/Necr ########.. 1% 7 Honeycomb i - Invisibility Hex ########. 1% 6 Choko p - Pain Necr ##### 0% 1 None r - Recall Tloc/Summ N/A 1% 3 None s - Sublimation of Blood Necr ########.. 0% 2 None x - Summon Butterflies Summ #######.. 0% 1 None z - Ensorcelled Hibernat Ice/Hex ####### 1% 2 None S - Shadow Creatures Summ N/A 1% 5 None Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations Branches: Dungeon (25/27) Temple (1/1) D:7 Orc (0/4) D:9 Lair (8/8) D:12 Swamp (4/5) Lair:3 Shoals (5/5) Lair:5 Slime (0/6) Lair:8 Vault (7/8) D:15 Blade (1/1) Vault:4 Crypt (5/5) Vault:3 Tomb (1/3) Crypt:3 Hell (1/1) Dis: Hell:1 Geh: Hell:1 Coc: Hell:1 Tar: Hell:1

Thursday, 11th April 2013, 08:03 by Sandman25

I have never played with Vp so I really cannot advise here. My first post was something like "Why do you play 0.10.4 again?" but then I realized there is an explanation in your OP

Thursday, 11th April 2013, 08:22 by Sojiro

I see. Thanks for clarifying.

Thursday, 11th April 2013, 09:57 by rchandra

acquiring armour seems fine, as long as you have lots of ?recharging. Since you plan to stay bloodless you should have lots of heal wound charges, so if you don't I'd acquire wand hoping for more.

The rest of your plans all sound fine - you really should be able to grab the golden rune without too much trouble, but I don't remember too many details of how I did it early as a Kiku worshipper other than 'I had dispel undead' and probably 'teleport on tomb:2'.

edit: the reason I can't remember is because that didn't happen, it was a different dieselrobin character - he had to get the golden rune after the orb of zot, so it was mostly teleporting with some fog/disjunction/dispel/ddoor maybe. The one who had to do early tomb died before getting that far.

anyway you can use

Code:: !lg demigodfighter -tv:<T121626:>T122164

in the irc channel to see that on footv.
I or somebody else could dig up some more appropriate Kiku Tomb footage (probably with Vp too) if you'd like.

Thursday, 11th April 2013, 10:47 by Sojiro

Thanks!

Thursday, 11th April 2013, 11:09 by Sojiro

I burned 3 ?acquirement, which got me :
+2 Gloves {Int -4}
+2 Gloves {+Rage} (not terribly useful to a bloodless Vp as far as I can tell)
-1 Cloak {Int+2}

So ... yeah. Int+2 is better than MR when you already have multiple sources of it, I guess, and my cloak was already -1. +2 Gloves without useful ego might be more useful than +1 MR gloves too. So it's pathetic, but not entirely useless. Which says a lot about the gear I'm currently using.
With neither of the two armour MR boost I am "incredibly resistant", and I go up to "uncannily" with a single one. I'm not sure what level of MR I really want, and if I want "uncanny" resistance I'll have to chose between sacrificing Int+2 or 1 point of AC. I'm thinking the Int is the more important of the two.

Friday, 12th April 2013, 13:18 by Sojiro

So I found this: "the +9 pearl Dragon armour of Eternal Vigilance {rC+, rN+}".
In a shop. At over 18k golds. Yeah ... And since it's in a bazaar, there's no way I'll ever be able to get it even if I could afford it one day.

Other things I might want to have (and that I can actually afford) are a Ring of cTele at 900 and a +5,+5 ring of Slaying at 1500. I already have the cBlink spell, and I'm probably going to find a ring of cTele eventually, so I'm not sure it's worth buying. The ring of Slaying is nice, but I already have a +5,+6 one one one hand, and a Ring of the Mage {Wiz,MR, Int+3} on ther other so I'm not sure how often I'd use it.
I currently have a bit over 4k golds, do you think I should buy either of those?

Friday, 12th April 2013, 15:01 by mrbobbyg

I wouldn't recommend PDA on a stabber no matter what. EV penalties, even minor ones, eat into your stealth. If I were you I would find a nice robe even instead of that leather, which isn't really doing all that much for you. Are there any robes of resistance or resist fire in the dungeon?

Friday, 12th April 2013, 15:12 by Sojiro

There's a rF+ robe. That's it.
Do you have any advice on the jewelry purcahses?

Friday, 12th April 2013, 17:09 by Psieye

We'd need a full dump to give more accurate advice, but perhaps the better question is: what would you want to save money for anyway? Just buy both rings, the cTele will be useful for controlling teleports and double slaying rings can be made to work for you.

Friday, 12th April 2013, 17:52 by Sojiro

There was a few things that I wanted to buy (notably a couple books for spells like cBlink) but I ended up finding most of it in a D:26 vault. So there's this glowing Steam Dragon Armour at 1k and pretty much nothing else, now that I think about it. It would mostly be for a Zig, or finding another shop. Except I won't be finding a shop in Extended or Zot, right?

Code:: Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.10.4 character file. Vlad the Ninja (Vampire Enchanter) Turns: 118903, Time: 12:42:03 HP 185/185 AC 14 Str 10 XL: 26 Next: 84% MP 45/45 EV 23 Int 32 God: Kikubaaqudgha [******] Gold 4335 SH 13 Dex 14 Spells: 16 memorised, 4 levels left Res.Fire : + . . See Invis. : + a - +6,+7 elf dagger (pain) Res.Cold : + + . Warding : . . D - +2 leather armour {rF+} Life Prot.: + + + Conserve : . C - +2 buckler of the Townfolk {Str+3 Int+2} Res.Acid. : . . . Res.Corr. : . U - +2 helmet Res.Poison: + Clarity : . q - -1 cloak "Ucarr" {rPois Int+2} Res.Elec. : . Spirit.Shd : . n - +2 pair of gloves of the Iron Devil {+Rage Sust.Abil.: . . Stasis : . l - +2 pair of boots {Stlth+} Res.Mut. : . Ctrl.Telep.: . j - amulet "Uzidgholu" {Faith MR} Res.Rott. : + Levitation : . I - +5,+6 ring of slaying Saprovore : . . . Ctrl.Flight: . G - ring of the Mage {Wiz MR Int+3} @: regenerating slowly, incredibly resistant to hostile enchantments, uncannily stealthy A: bottle blood, fangs 3, see invisible, unbreathing a: Bat Form, Bottle Blood, Receive Corpses, Torment, Renounce Religion, Evoke Berserk Rage }: 2/15 runes: decaying, barnacled You are in a bazaar. You worship Kikubaaqudgha. Kikubaaqudgha is exalted by your worship. You are near bloodless. You have visited 12 branches of the dungeon, and seen 69 of its levels. You have visited the Abyss 1 time. You have visited 1 Labyrinth. You have visited 3 bazaars. You have visited 1 portal chamber: sewer. You have collected 7268 gold pieces. You have spent 2953 gold pieces at shops. Inventory: Hand weapons a - a +6,+7 elven dagger of pain (weapon) b - a +4,+6 quick blade of draining Armour l - a +2 pair of boots of stealth (worn) n - the +2 pair of gloves of the Iron Devil (worn) {+Rage} (You acquired it on level 2 of the Lair of Beasts) It lets you go berserk. q - the -1 cloak "Ucarr" (worn) {rPois Int+2} (You acquired it on level 2 of the Lair of Beasts) It affects your intelligence (+2). It protects you from poison. t - a +0 pair of boots C - the +2 buckler of the Townfolk (worn) {Str+3 Int+2} (You found it on level 1 of the Crypt) It affects your strength (+3). It affects your intelligence (+2). D - a +2 leather armour of fire resistance (worn) U - a +2 helmet (worn) Magical devices d - a wand of fire {zapped: 1} u - a wand of teleportation v - a wand of teleportation (5) y - a wand of lightning {zapped: 1} E - a wand of heal wounds {recharged} K - a wand of digging O - a wand of lightning X - a wand of disintegration Scrolls e - 3 scrolls of identify g - 3 scrolls of teleportation k - a scroll of vulnerability o - 2 scrolls of fear p - 3 scrolls of fog J - 3 scrolls of detect curse Q - a scroll of blinking R - a scroll of remove curse Jewellery j - the amulet "Uzidgholu" (around neck) {Faith MR} (You found it in a Labyrinth) [amulet of faith] It increases your resistance to enchantments. m - the ring of the Shining Light {+Rage rPois MR Str+4} (You found it on level 1 of the Lair of Beasts) [ring of poison resistance] It affects your strength (+4). It increases your resistance to enchantments. It lets you go berserk. r - an uncursed ring of levitation A - an uncursed ring of protection from cold G - the ring of the Mage (left hand) {Wiz MR Int+3} (You found it on level 6 of the Vaults) [ring of wizardry] It affects your intelligence (+3). It increases your resistance to enchantments. I - a +5,+6 ring of slaying (right hand) L - an uncursed ring of wizardry N - the ring of Fyogomur {SustAb Str-2 Int+4} (You found it on level 5 of the Shoals) [ring of sustain abilities] It affects your strength (-2). It affects your intelligence (+4). Potions c - 2 potions of agility f - 2 potions of restore abilities h - a potion of magic i - a potion of speed z - 7 potions of curing B - 4 potions of blood M - 6 potions of heal wounds S - a potion of coagulated blood Skills: - Level 10,6 Fighting - Level 10,7 Short Blades - Level 0,2 Slings - Level 0,7 Throwing - Level 1,0 Armour - Level 18,5 Dodging O Level 27 Stealth - Level 16,2 Stabbing - Level 5,5 Shields - Level 6,0 Traps & Doors - Level 20,0 Spellcasting - Level 16,0 Hexes - Level 1,1 Charms - Level 12,0 Summonings + Level 18,7 Necromancy - Level 11,6 Translocations - Level 2,3 Ice Magic - Level 0,2 Evocations You have 4 spell levels left. You know the following spells: Your Spells Type Power Failure Level Hunger a - Agony Necr ######### 0% 5 None b - Sure Blade Hex/Chrm #######... 1% 2 None c - Mass Confusion Hex ########.. 1% 6 None d - Dispel Undead Necr ######### 0% 5 None e - Animate Dead Necr N/A 0% 4 None f - Regeneration Chrm/Necr #######... 1% 3 None g - Blink Tloc N/A 0% 2 None h - Haunt Summ/Necr ########.. 1% 7 Choko i - Invisibility Hex ########. 1% 6 None j - Controlled Blink Tloc N/A 4% 7 Choko p - Pain Necr ##### 0% 1 None r - Recall Tloc/Summ N/A 1% 3 None s - Sublimation of Blood Necr #########. 0% 2 None x - Summon Butterflies Summ ########. 0% 1 None z - Ensorcelled Hibernat Ice/Hex ####### 1% 2 None S - Shadow Creatures Summ N/A 1% 5 None Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations Branches: Dungeon (27/27) Temple (1/1) D:7 Orc (4/4) D:9 Elf (3/5) Orc:3 Lair (8/8) D:12 Swamp (5/5) Lair:3 Shoals (5/5) Lair:5 Slime (0/6) Lair:8 Vault (7/8) D:15 Blade (1/1) Vault:4 Crypt (5/5) Vault:3 Tomb (2/3) Crypt:3 Hell (1/1) Dis: Hell:1 Geh: Hell:1 Coc: Hell:1 Tar: Hell:1 Zot: D:27 Altars: Ashenzari Cheibriados Elyvilon Fedhas Kikubaaqudgha Makhleb Okawaru Sif Muna The Shining One Trog Xom Yredelemnul Zin Beogh Shops: D:5: = D:6: ( D:7: + D:11: / D:14: % D:23: + Orc:4: [/*( Shoals:4: ( Shoals:5: ( Vault:3: ? Vault:4: ?(? Vault:6: [ Portals: Hell: D:21 D:22 D:23 D:24 D:25 D:26 D:27 Abyss: D:26 Pan: D:22 D:24 D:25 D:27 Trove: Vault:1 (give +4,+5 demon whip)

Here's a list of all shops in the game, in case someone wants to check if I missed something.

Code:: [Shop] Niamior's Jewellery Emporium an uncursed ring of sustain abilities (210 gold) a +2 ring of strength (90 gold) an uncursed amulet of resist mutation (480 gold) an uncursed ring of protection from cold (300 gold) an uncursed ring of fire (240 gold) an uncursed ring of levitation (210 gold) an uncursed ring of life protection (240 gold) an uncursed ring of magical power (240 gold) [Shop] Ineyst's Antique Weapon Shop a falchion (93 gold) a trident (130 gold) a runed hand axe (86 gold) a whip (77 gold) a mace (93 gold) a runed falchion (93 gold) a glowing hammer (93 gold) a dagger (62 gold) a runed war axe (124 gold) a dagger (62 gold) [Shop] Gofou's Book Boutique a book of Necromancy (360 gold) a book of Burglary (900 gold) a book of Party Tricks (600 gold) a book of Air (420 gold) a book of the Warp (1080 gold) a book of Burglary (900 gold) a book of Geomancy (420 gold) a book of Beasts (660 gold) a book of Transfigurations (660 gold) a book of War Chants (480 gold) [Shop] Loileote's Magical Wand Shoppe a wand of slowing (10) (117 gold) a wand of confusion (5) (67 gold) a wand of fire (8) (312 gold) a wand of cold (5) (234 gold) a wand of draining (1) (65 gold) a wand of fire (5) (234 gold) a wand of cold (3) (182 gold) a wand of cold (2) (156 gold) [Shop] Voyc's Book Emporium a book of the Tempests (980 gold) a book of Envenomations (1260 gold) a book of Clouds (630 gold) the Guide on Good Luck (910 gold) Spells Type Level Freezing Aura Charms/Ice 2 Shroud of Golubria Charms/Translocation 2 Control Teleport Charms/Translocation 4 Warp Weapon Charms/Translocation 5 a Young Poisoner's Handbook (560 gold) Pies' Incunabulum of Sinister Magic and Companions (1120 gold) Spells Type Level Summon Small Mammals Summoning 1 *Sublimation of Blood Necromancy 2 Call Imp Summoning 2 Abjuration Summoning 3 *Agony Necromancy 5 Twisted Resurrection Necromancy 5 a book of Cantrips (280 gold) a book of Annihilations (1610 gold) a book of Power (630 gold) a book of Party Tricks (700 gold) a book of Debilitation (560 gold) [Shop] Voyc's Book Emporium a book of the Tempests (980 gold) a book of Envenomations (1260 gold) a book of Clouds (630 gold) the Guide on Good Luck (910 gold) Spells Type Level Freezing Aura Charms/Ice 2 Shroud of Golubria Charms/Translocation 2 Control Teleport Charms/Translocation 4 Warp Weapon Charms/Translocation 5 a Young Poisoner's Handbook (560 gold) Pies' Incunabulum of Sinister Magic and Companions (1120 gold) Spells Type Level Summon Small Mammals Summoning 1 *Sublimation of Blood Necromancy 2 Call Imp Summoning 2 Abjuration Summoning 3 *Agony Necromancy 5 Twisted Resurrection Necromancy 5 a book of Cantrips (280 gold) a book of Annihilations (1610 gold) a book of Power (630 gold) a book of Party Tricks (700 gold) a book of Debilitation (560 gold) [Shop] Twuva's Weapon Boutique 6 poisoned +0 arrows (31 gold) a +0,+5 orcish crossbow (162 gold) 25 +1 sling bullets of frost (455 gold) a +2,+3 mace of holy wrath (647 gold) a cursed -2,-2 falchion (2 gold) a cursed +1,-3 elven long sword (46 gold) a +2,+1 staff (93 gold) a +6,+4 dwarven anti-magic hammer (431 gold) a +2,+4 elven short sword of protection (414 gold) a +0,+0 staff (26 gold) a +0,+0 trident (54 gold) a +3,+0 elven sabre of holy wrath (633 gold) 13 poisoned +1 needles (101 gold) [Shop] Doanoza's General Store an uncursed amulet of resist corrosion (380 gold) a scroll of noise (19 gold) a scroll of recharging (104 gold) a potion of heal wounds (57 gold) 9 +0 sling bullets (85 gold) 13 +2 darts of flame (148 gold) a +3 dwarven splint mail of poison resistance (1839 gold) a +0,+0 morningstar (76 gold) a +2 chain mail of poison resistance (1012 gold) [Shop] Psos' Armour Shop a +2 scale mail (429 gold) a +0 orcish splint mail (175 gold) a +1 plate armour (556 gold) a +0 robe (18 gold) a +2 leather armour of cold resistance (367 gold) a +0 plate armour (352 gold) a +0 scale mail (132 gold) the cursed -3 chain mail of Lugonu's Whim {Str+4 Acc+2 SInv} (393 gold) It affects your strength (+4). It affects your accuracy (+2). It enhances your eyesight. It has a curse placed upon it. a +0 plate armour (352 gold) a +0 orcish chain mail (139 gold) a +0 large shield (120 gold) a +0 ring mail (67 gold) a +0 splint mail of fire resistance (667 gold) a +1 chain mail of fire resistance (796 gold) a +0 orcish splint mail (175 gold) [Shop] Ulatra's Magical Wand Shop a wand of digging (6) (240 gold) a wand of fireball (2) (144 gold) a wand of fireball (2) (144 gold) a wand of fire (8) (288 gold) a wand of lightning (10) (168 gold) a wand of polymorph other (9) (132 gold) a wand of polymorph other (6) (96 gold) [Shop] Ukhlutsese's Antique Weapon Emporium a glowing dagger (68 gold) a hand axe (95 gold) a great sword (204 gold) a bow (105 gold) a runed dwarven great mace (265 gold) a glowing orcish trident (112 gold) a sling (51 gold) a club (34 gold) [Shop] Hop Enk's Antique Weapon Emporium a slimy sabre (333 gold) a slimy sling (240 gold) a smoking battleaxe (425 gold) a trident (155 gold) a club (37 gold) a runed long sword (166 gold) a falchion (111 gold) a runed dwarven dagger (88 gold) a flail (129 gold) [Shop] Ulatra's Magic Scroll Shop a scroll of magic mapping (45 gold) a scroll of teleportation (39 gold) a scroll of teleportation (39 gold) a scroll of identify (26 gold) a scroll of teleportation (39 gold) a scroll of holy word (97 gold) a scroll of teleportation (39 gold) a scroll of curse jewellery (26 gold) a scroll of fear (45 gold) a scroll of curse armour (26 gold) [Shop] Teoffar's Magic Scroll Shoppe a scroll of identify (32 gold) a scroll of fear (56 gold) a scroll of detect curse (32 gold) a scroll of teleportation (48 gold) a scroll of fog (32 gold) a scroll of curse weapon (32 gold) a scroll of remove curse (48 gold) [Shop] Tiloexinn's Weapon Boutique a cursed -2,-3 longbow (1 gold) a +3,+1 broad axe (313 gold) a +2,+0 quarterstaff (133 gold) a +0,+0 battleaxe (123 gold) a -1,+1 orcish club (13 gold) a +0,+0 sling (28 gold) a +0,+0 sabre (76 gold) a +1,+0 dwarven hand axe (85 gold) a +2,+0 war axe of chopping (292 gold) a +0,+0 dagger (38 gold) a +1,+2 spiked flail of holy wrath (2071 gold) a +0 blowgun (47 gold) the +7,+12 morningstar of Dishonesty {pierce, rElec rPois MR} (3617 gold) It inflicts extra damage upon your enemies. It insulates you from electricity. It protects you from poison. It increases your resistance to enchantments. [Shop] Chirerph's Magic Scroll Shop a scroll of detect curse (36 gold) a scroll of silence (135 gold) a scroll of summoning (171 gold) a scroll of silence (135 gold) a scroll of remove curse (54 gold) a scroll of curse armour (36 gold) a scroll of remove curse (54 gold) a scroll of remove curse (54 gold) a scroll of identify (36 gold) a scroll of remove curse (54 gold) a scroll of identify (36 gold) a scroll of remove curse (54 gold) [Shop] Struer's Antique Armour Boutique a glowing steam dragon armour (1020 gold) an animal skin (10 gold) a glowing plate armour (782 gold) a cloak (34 gold) a leather armour (68 gold) a ring mail (136 gold) a runed leather armour (68 gold) a dyed orcish leather armour (54 gold) a chain mail (374 gold)

Friday, 12th April 2013, 19:47 by Psieye

I don't think I have ever seen a shop or Bazaar in extended or Zot. Since you can't serve Zin either, the only use for gold now is entering Zigs. But Zigs keep showing up in Pan which also spawns gold so go spend your entire fortune here in this bazaar. Tomb:3 will give you some more money as well. The only way you can see a shop now would be to make a bazaar portal from a high-powered Trowel card. That's not going to happen unless you switch to Nemelex and scum him like crazy.

Now then, looking at your dump the slaying ring may not be of much use to you unless you invest in a long blades and get some awesome 2h big sword. But you've already picked a good alternate path of Army Commander. Get Simulacrum and laugh as Kiku provides you with OP corpses in Dis/Coc/Tar.

The cTele ring is useful, especially in that castle layout of Cerebov's floor where you need to precisely teleport into the 7 metal rooms with no doors to get the loot. Gamble on that steam dragon armour, see if it's good or not.

Friday, 12th April 2013, 20:47 by Sojiro

OK, thanks. Although i don't understand this comment:

Psieye wrote:Now then, looking at your dump the slaying ring may not be of much use to you unless you invest in a long blades and get some awesome 2h big sword.

Isn't slaying especially useful on fast weapons like a Quickblade? Which is almost my only way to damage demons for now (I often end up falling back on Haunt, though).

Friday, 12th April 2013, 21:48 by rchandra

yes, slaying is especially good on fast weapons. I don't think you'll need a big sword.

I agree that you should buy the ctele and slaying both.

Saturday, 13th April 2013, 11:03 by Psieye

Sojiro wrote:OK, thanks. Although i don't understand this comment:
Psieye wrote:Now then, looking at your dump the slaying ring may not be of much use to you unless you invest in a long blades and get some awesome 2h big sword.
Isn't slaying especially useful on fast weapons like a Quickblade? Which is almost my only way to damage demons for now (I often end up falling back on Haunt, though).

It is, but the amount of damage done per hit will be mitigated by AC. It'd be good for low~medium AC opponents but you'll need to do something else for high AC targets. Since you had already invested in summonings, you may as well let your army do the attacking.

If you want more concrete numbers, a total of +20 dmg from slaying bonus/weapon enchantments would have been the point where I'd recommend you just melee things yourself with a quick blade.

Saturday, 13th April 2013, 13:53 by Sojiro

I bought both of those rings, and I certainly don't regret it. the cTele ring saved my bacon when I stumbled upon an Ancient Lich which proceeded to reduce me to almost no HPs with a couple of Iron Bolts. I managed to hide in a small room but I had no way out, so I used a ?tele with the ring to land on the stairs up, and I was able to easily rest on V:7.
Still on V:8, one of the main probelm were the Shadow Dragons, since they are immune to pain (or my damaging spells) and can foil my Enchanter tricks. So I put this second slaying ring instead of the artifact one and cut them to ribbons.

I think that the only thing left now is to try the extended. Tomb:3 should probably be first, but I don't know if I should try to do Slime Pits at all, let alone this early. My equipment is already not very good so I'm afraid of corrosion, and I'm not really sure what offensive would work well there, and I hate doing the Pits without Dig. Although I might be able to solve that problem and I should learn not to sweat that sort of detail.

Code:: Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.10.4 character file. Vlad the Ninja (Vampire Enchanter) Turns: 133006, Time: 14:15:25 HP 193/193 AC 22 Str 9 (10) XL: 27 MP 43/46 EV 26 Int 31 God: Kikubaaqudgha [******] Gold 2780 SH 13 Dex 13 Spells: 16 memorised, 1 level left Res.Fire : . . . See Invis. : + a - +6,+7 elf dagger (pain) Res.Cold : + + . Warding : . . B - +5 steam dragon armour Life Prot.: + + + Conserve : . C - +2 buckler of the Townfolk {Str+3 Int+2} Res.Acid. : . . . Res.Corr. : . U - +2 helmet Res.Poison: + Clarity : . Z - +2 cloak Res.Elec. : . Spirit.Shd : . n - +2 pair of gloves of the Iron Devil {+Rage Sust.Abil.: . . Stasis : . l - +2 pair of boots {Stlth+} Res.Mut. : . Ctrl.Telep.: . j - amulet "Uzidgholu" {Faith MR, !R} Res.Rott. : + Levitation : . I - +5,+6 ring of slaying Saprovore : . . . Ctrl.Flight: . G - ring of the Mage {Wiz MR Int+3} @: regenerating, incredibly resistant to hostile enchantments, uncannily stealthy A: bottle blood, fangs 3, see invisible, unbreathing, Dex -1 a: Bat Form, Bottle Blood, Receive Corpses, Torment, Renounce Religion, Evoke Berserk Rage }: 3/15 runes: decaying, barnacled, silver You are on level 23 of the Dungeon. You worship Kikubaaqudgha. Kikubaaqudgha is exalted by your worship. You are near bloodless. You have visited 12 branches of the dungeon, and seen 72 of its levels. You have visited the Abyss 1 time. You have visited 1 Labyrinth. You have visited 3 bazaars. You have visited 1 portal chamber: sewer. You have collected 9308 gold pieces. You have spent 6548 gold pieces at shops. Inventory: Hand weapons a - a +6,+7 elven dagger of pain (weapon) b - a +4,+6 quick blade of draining i - the +6,+1 dagger "Ecoxok" (quivered) {stab, rPois SInv} (You found it on level 22 of the Dungeon) It inflicts extra damage upon your enemies. It protects you from poison. It enhances your eyesight. Armour l - a +2 pair of boots of stealth (worn) n - the +2 pair of gloves of the Iron Devil (worn) {+Rage} (You acquired it on level 2 of the Lair of Beasts) It lets you go berserk. B - a +5 steam dragon armour (worn) C - the +2 buckler of the Townfolk (worn) {Str+3 Int+2} (You found it on level 1 of the Crypt) It affects your strength (+3). It affects your intelligence (+2). U - a +2 helmet (worn) Y - the +1 pair of gloves of Impatience {+Inv rPois MR} (You found it on level 21 of the Dungeon) It protects you from poison. It increases your resistance to enchantments. It lets you turn invisible. Z - a +2 cloak (worn) Magical devices u - a wand of teleportation v - a wand of teleportation (5) E - a wand of heal wounds {recharged} K - a wand of digging X - a wand of disintegration {zapped: 1} Scrolls e - a scroll of identify g - 2 scrolls of teleportation o - a scroll of fear p - 4 scrolls of fog J - a scroll of detect curse O - 2 scrolls of magic mapping P - a scroll of vulnerability R - a scroll of remove curse Jewellery d - the amulet of Pudenkes {Cons Acc+5 Stlth++} (You found it on level 22 of the Dungeon) [amulet of conservation] It affects your accuracy (+5). It makes you much more stealthy. j - the amulet "Uzidgholu" (around neck) {Faith MR, !R} (You found it in a Labyrinth) [amulet of faith] It increases your resistance to enchantments. m - the ring of the Shining Light {+Rage rPois MR Str+4} (You found it on level 1 of the Lair of Beasts) [ring of poison resistance] It affects your strength (+4). It increases your resistance to enchantments. It lets you go berserk. r - an uncursed ring of levitation s - an uncursed ring of teleport control t - an uncursed ring of regeneration w - a +5,+5 ring of slaying A - an uncursed ring of protection from cold G - the ring of the Mage (left hand) {Wiz MR Int+3} (You found it on level 6 of the Vaults) [ring of wizardry] It affects your intelligence (+3). It increases your resistance to enchantments. I - a +5,+6 ring of slaying (right hand) N - the ring of Fyogomur {SustAb Str-2 Int+4} (You found it on level 5 of the Shoals) [ring of sustain abilities] It affects your strength (-2). It affects your intelligence (+4). Q - the ring "Gecianeg" {Str+1 Dex+5 Int+3} (You found it on level 8 of the Vaults) [ring of intelligence] It affects your intelligence (+3). It affects your strength (+1). It affects your dexterity (+5). S - the ring "Buptiyhyxt" {rElec rF+ SInv} (You found it on level 8 of the Vaults) [ring of protection from fire] It insulates you from electricity. It enhances your eyesight. Potions c - 2 potions of agility f - 3 potions of restore abilities h - a potion of magic z - 8 potions of curing D - a potion of levitation H - 3 potions of might M - 6 potions of heal wounds T - a potion of resistance Books k - the Tome of Good Luck and Stones (You found it on level 8 of the Vaults) Spells Type Level Fire Brand Charms/Fire 2 Ozocubu's Armour Charms/Ice 3 Control Teleport Charms/Translocation 4 Leda's Liquefaction Transmutation/Earth 4 Iron Shot Conjuration/Earth 6 q - the Guide on Necromancy (You found it on level 8 of the Vaults) Spells Type Level Cigotuvi's Degeneration Transmutation/Necromancy 5 Bolt of Draining Conjuration/Necromancy 6 Death Channel Necromancy 7 Skills: - Level 11,0 Fighting - Level 10,7 Short Blades - Level 0,2 Slings - Level 0,7 Throwing - Level 1,0 Armour + Level 23,0 Dodging O Level 27 Stealth - Level 16,2 Stabbing - Level 5,5 Shields - Level 6,0 Traps & Doors - Level 20,0 Spellcasting - Level 16,0 Hexes - Level 1,1 Charms - Level 12,0 Summonings - Level 20,0 Necromancy - Level 13,0 Translocations - Level 3,0 Ice Magic - Level 0,2 Evocations You have one spell level left. You know the following spells: Your Spells Type Power Failure Level Hunger a - Agony Necr ######### 0% 5 None b - Sure Blade Hex/Chrm #######... 1% 2 None c - Mass Confusion Hex ########.. 1% 6 None d - Dispel Undead Necr ######### 0% 5 None e - Animate Dead Necr N/A 0% 4 None f - Regeneration Chrm/Necr #######... 1% 3 None g - Simulacrum Ice/Necr ########.. 1% 6 None h - Haunt Summ/Necr ########.. 1% 7 Choko i - Invisibility Hex ########. 1% 6 None j - Controlled Blink Tloc N/A 2% 7 Choko p - Pain Necr ##### 0% 1 None r - Recall Tloc/Summ N/A 1% 3 None s - Sublimation of Blood Necr #########. 0% 2 None x - Summon Butterflies Summ ########. 0% 1 None z - Ensorcelled Hibernat Ice/Hex ####### 1% 2 None S - Shadow Creatures Summ N/A 1% 5 None Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations Branches: Dungeon (27/27) Temple (1/1) D:7 Orc (4/4) D:9 Elf (5/5) Orc:3 Lair (8/8) D:12 Swamp (5/5) Lair:3 Shoals (5/5) Lair:5 Slime (0/6) Lair:8 Vault (8/8) D:15 Blade (1/1) Vault:4 Crypt (5/5) Vault:3 Tomb (2/3) Crypt:3 Hell (1/1) Zot (0/5) D:27 Dis: Hell:1 Geh: Hell:1 Coc: Hell:1 Tar: Hell:1 Altars: Ashenzari Cheibriados Elyvilon Fedhas Kikubaaqudgha Makhleb Okawaru Sif Muna The Shining One Trog Xom Yredelemnul Zin Beogh Shops: D:5: = D:6: ( D:7: + D:11: / D:14: % D:23: + Orc:4: [/*( Shoals:4: ( Shoals:5: ( Vault:3: ? Vault:4: ?(? Vault:6: [ Portals: Hell: D:21 D:22 D:23 D:24 D:25 D:26 D:27 Abyss: D:26 Pan: D:22 D:24 D:25 D:27 Trove: Vault:1 (give +4,+5 demon whip)

Saturday, 13th April 2013, 16:52 by crate

Psieye wrote:If you want more concrete numbers, a total of +20 dmg from slaying bonus/weapon enchantments would have been the point where I'd recommend you just melee things yourself with a quick blade.

have you actually played a quick blade character

Saturday, 13th April 2013, 18:09 by Psieye

crate wrote:
Psieye wrote:If you want more concrete numbers, a total of +20 dmg from slaying bonus/weapon enchantments would have been the point where I'd recommend you just melee things yourself with a quick blade.

have you actually played a quick blade character

Admittedly, not with low slaying and lack of pain/disto brand.

Saturday, 13th April 2013, 18:43 by Sojiro

Psieye wrote:
crate wrote:
Psieye wrote:If you want more concrete numbers, a total of +20 dmg from slaying bonus/weapon enchantments would have been the point where I'd recommend you just melee things yourself with a quick blade.

have you actually played a quick blade character

Admittedly, not with low slaying and lack of pain/disto brand.

Wait, you consider a combined +10,+11 Slaying bonus to be low? :shock:

Saturday, 13th April 2013, 18:48 by Psieye

Actually hmm, when was that commit that changed slaying bonus? 0.10 may still have had the old form before it got nerfed. I'm guessing even under the new slaying system, +10 + 6~9 from weapon enchantment would be considered enough to make a qBlade character viable.

Saturday, 13th April 2013, 19:09 by crate

A +8 vorpal qblade is a really good weapon even without slaying.

Saturday, 13th April 2013, 19:28 by Mankeli

Psieye wrote:Actually hmm, when was that commit that changed slaying bonus? 0.10 may still have had the old form before it got nerfed. I'm guessing even under the new slaying system, +10 + 6~9 from weapon enchantment would be considered enough to make a qBlade character viable.

0.8 had the old, 0.10 had the new, I think it was 0.10 were it got changed to new slaying.

Saturday, 13th April 2013, 19:50 by Psieye

crate wrote:A +8 vorpal qblade is a really good weapon even without slaying.

Hmm, I tried that out in fsim, comparing with a +8 vorpal lajatang. Conditions: 15 allSkill, vs Brimestone Fiend (15 AC) and vs Dispater (40 AC), with and without +10/+10 slaying.

Without slaying and against regular enemies, the vorpal qblade does a good job though the lajatang does better. Against high AC (Dispater), the qblade really sucks with no slaying bonuses.

With +10 dmg from slaying (in addition to being +8 enchanted), the qblade actually matches the lajatang for effective damage on Dispater and outperforms the lajatang against the Fiend.

Conclusion: a decent doping of slaying on a highly enchanted qblade makes it effective against high AC opponents too, proving me wrong.

Saturday, 13th April 2013, 20:06 by crate

15 AC is absurdly high for an enemy.

Qblades are good up to ~12 AC (stone giants). This is roughly everything you run into in the game.

Also comparing to the best basetype weapon in the game isn't exactly fair....

Saturday, 13th April 2013, 20:24 by Psieye

Yeah it wasn't the fairest of tests and it's rather meaningless anyway as both these weapons are pretty rare. You're probably not going to see either one unless you've invested in the correct skill and gotten the acquirement code to give it to you. Well, I guess Lajatangs are less rare than qblades.

Sunday, 14th April 2013, 08:29 by Sojiro

Oh yeah, I do have one problem: not a single source of Haste in this game beyond a few potions of Speed. I was thinking that I could try my luck in the Slime loot vault.
Any advice on how to tackle this branch (or on what to do instead)?

Sunday, 14th April 2013, 10:26 by Psieye

Your quick blade, pain dagger and steam dragno armour are all enchanted to the point where they can't be corroded by acid. Find some expendable cloak, boots and helm then just do it like a melee dude would using your +10 slaying. As a bonus, you have summons to act as temporary chaffs while you approach shining eyes and acid blobs.

Wednesday, 17th April 2013, 07:12 by Sojiro

I was thinking I should improve my spell list.
I haven't found a single Haste book and Swiftness only in a book shop. On the other hand since I don't think I can find any new shop I probably should just go ahead and buy that Book of Burglary.
I also think that now that I have enough Translocation for cBlink and since I am a dodge-based character, I should learn Phase Shift. Silence may have been useful before, but now that I'm looking at the extended, I don't think it's a good idea anymore.

The problem would be getting enough spell slots for those. I only have one right now and since Spc is at 20 getting more the old-fashioned way is probably going to take a lot of time. So I was looking at spell I should probably forget. First, I don't think Pain is really useful at that point in the game. Then I've barely used Agony, since the targets it would be effective against die quickly enough to my Pain weapon. And then there's Animate Dead, which I have used quite a lot, but whose effectiveness seriously decreases now that I'm done with the Dungeon and the Vauls ; it's still really neat to animate an entire Kiku-gifted stack of corpses, but maybe Simulacrum would be enough for those?

Code:: Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.10.4 character file. Vlad the Ninja (Vampire Enchanter) Turns: 133006, Time: 14:19:44 HP 193/193 AC 22 Str 9 (10) XL: 27 MP 43/46 EV 26 Int 31 God: Kikubaaqudgha [******] Gold 2780 SH 13 Dex 13 Spells: 16 memorised, 1 level left Res.Fire : . . . See Invis. : + a - +6,+7 elf dagger (pain) Res.Cold : + + . Warding : . . B - +5 steam dragon armour Life Prot.: + + + Conserve : . C - +2 buckler of the Townfolk {Str+3 Int+2} Res.Acid. : . . . Res.Corr. : . U - +2 helmet Res.Poison: + Clarity : . Z - +2 cloak Res.Elec. : . Spirit.Shd : . n - +2 pair of gloves of the Iron Devil {+Rage Sust.Abil.: . . Stasis : . l - +2 pair of boots {Stlth+} Res.Mut. : . Ctrl.Telep.: . j - amulet "Uzidgholu" {Faith MR, !R} Res.Rott. : + Levitation : . I - +5,+6 ring of slaying Saprovore : . . . Ctrl.Flight: . G - ring of the Mage {Wiz MR Int+3} @: regenerating, incredibly resistant to hostile enchantments, uncannily stealthy A: bottle blood, fangs 3, see invisible, unbreathing, Dex -1 a: Bat Form, Bottle Blood, Receive Corpses, Torment, Renounce Religion, Evoke Berserk Rage }: 3/15 runes: decaying, barnacled, silver You are on level 23 of the Dungeon. You worship Kikubaaqudgha. Kikubaaqudgha is exalted by your worship. You are near bloodless. You have visited 12 branches of the dungeon, and seen 72 of its levels. You have visited the Abyss 1 time. You have visited 1 Labyrinth. You have visited 3 bazaars. You have visited 1 portal chamber: sewer. You have collected 9308 gold pieces. You have spent 6548 gold pieces at shops. Inventory: Hand weapons a - a +6,+7 elven dagger of pain (weapon) b - a +4,+6 quick blade of draining i - the +6,+1 dagger "Ecoxok" (quivered) {stab, rPois SInv} (You found it on level 22 of the Dungeon) It inflicts extra damage upon your enemies. It protects you from poison. It enhances your eyesight. Armour l - a +2 pair of boots of stealth (worn) n - the +2 pair of gloves of the Iron Devil (worn) {+Rage} (You acquired it on level 2 of the Lair of Beasts) It lets you go berserk. B - a +5 steam dragon armour (worn) C - the +2 buckler of the Townfolk (worn) {Str+3 Int+2} (You found it on level 1 of the Crypt) It affects your strength (+3). It affects your intelligence (+2). U - a +2 helmet (worn) Y - the +1 pair of gloves of Impatience {+Inv rPois MR} (You found it on level 21 of the Dungeon) It protects you from poison. It increases your resistance to enchantments. It lets you turn invisible. Z - a +2 cloak (worn) Magical devices u - a wand of teleportation v - a wand of teleportation (5) E - a wand of heal wounds {recharged} K - a wand of digging X - a wand of disintegration {zapped: 1} Scrolls e - a scroll of identify g - 2 scrolls of teleportation o - a scroll of fear p - 4 scrolls of fog J - a scroll of detect curse O - 2 scrolls of magic mapping P - a scroll of vulnerability R - a scroll of remove curse Jewellery d - the amulet of Pudenkes {Cons Acc+5 Stlth++} (You found it on level 22 of the Dungeon) [amulet of conservation] It affects your accuracy (+5). It makes you much more stealthy. j - the amulet "Uzidgholu" (around neck) {Faith MR, !R} (You found it in a Labyrinth) [amulet of faith] It increases your resistance to enchantments. m - the ring of the Shining Light {+Rage rPois MR Str+4} (You found it on level 1 of the Lair of Beasts) [ring of poison resistance] It affects your strength (+4). It increases your resistance to enchantments. It lets you go berserk. r - an uncursed ring of levitation s - an uncursed ring of teleport control t - an uncursed ring of regeneration w - a +5,+5 ring of slaying A - an uncursed ring of protection from cold G - the ring of the Mage (left hand) {Wiz MR Int+3} (You found it on level 6 of the Vaults) [ring of wizardry] It affects your intelligence (+3). It increases your resistance to enchantments. I - a +5,+6 ring of slaying (right hand) N - the ring of Fyogomur {SustAb Str-2 Int+4} (You found it on level 5 of the Shoals) [ring of sustain abilities] It affects your strength (-2). It affects your intelligence (+4). Q - the ring "Gecianeg" {Str+1 Dex+5 Int+3} (You found it on level 8 of the Vaults) [ring of intelligence] It affects your intelligence (+3). It affects your strength (+1). It affects your dexterity (+5). S - the ring "Buptiyhyxt" {rElec rF+ SInv} (You found it on level 8 of the Vaults) [ring of protection from fire] It insulates you from electricity. It enhances your eyesight. Potions c - 2 potions of agility f - 3 potions of restore abilities h - a potion of magic z - 8 potions of curing D - a potion of levitation H - 3 potions of might M - 6 potions of heal wounds T - a potion of resistance Books k - the Tome of Good Luck and Stones (You found it on level 8 of the Vaults) Spells Type Level Fire Brand Charms/Fire 2 Ozocubu's Armour Charms/Ice 3 Control Teleport Charms/Translocation 4 Leda's Liquefaction Transmutation/Earth 4 Iron Shot Conjuration/Earth 6 q - the Guide on Necromancy (You found it on level 8 of the Vaults) Spells Type Level Cigotuvi's Degeneration Transmutation/Necromancy 5 Bolt of Draining Conjuration/Necromancy 6 Death Channel Necromancy 7 Skills: - Level 11,0 Fighting - Level 10,7 Short Blades - Level 0,2 Slings - Level 0,7 Throwing - Level 1,0 Armour + Level 23,0 Dodging O Level 27 Stealth - Level 16,2 Stabbing - Level 5,5 Shields - Level 6,0 Traps & Doors - Level 20,0 Spellcasting - Level 16,0 Hexes - Level 1,1 Charms - Level 12,0 Summonings - Level 20,0 Necromancy - Level 13,0 Translocations - Level 3,0 Ice Magic - Level 0,2 Evocations You have one spell level left. You know the following spells: Your Spells Type Power Failure Level Hunger a - Agony Necr ######### 0% 5 None b - Sure Blade Hex/Chrm #######... 1% 2 None c - Mass Confusion Hex ########.. 1% 6 None d - Dispel Undead Necr ######### 0% 5 None e - Animate Dead Necr N/A 0% 4 None f - Regeneration Chrm/Necr #######... 1% 3 None g - Simulacrum Ice/Necr ########.. 1% 6 None h - Haunt Summ/Necr ########.. 1% 7 Choko i - Invisibility Hex ########. 1% 6 None j - Controlled Blink Tloc N/A 2% 7 Choko p - Pain Necr ##### 0% 1 None r - Recall Tloc/Summ N/A 1% 3 None s - Sublimation of Blood Necr #########. 0% 2 None x - Summon Butterflies Summ ########. 0% 1 None z - Ensorcelled Hibernat Ice/Hex ####### 1% 2 None S - Shadow Creatures Summ N/A 1% 5 None Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations Branches: Dungeon (27/27) Temple (1/1) D:7 Orc (4/4) D:9 Elf (5/5) Orc:3 Lair (8/8) D:12 Swamp (5/5) Lair:3 Shoals (5/5) Lair:5 Slime (0/6) Lair:8 Vault (8/8) D:15 Blade (1/1) Vault:4 Crypt (5/5) Vault:3 Tomb (2/3) Crypt:3 Hell (1/1) Zot (0/5) D:27 Dis: Hell:1 Geh: Hell:1 Coc: Hell:1 Tar: Hell:1

Wednesday, 17th April 2013, 07:19 by Psieye

All those spells you listed plus ensorcelled hibernation. They can all be discarded - EH because all the seroius threats have way more MR than the power cap on that spell.

Wednesday, 17th April 2013, 07:22 by Sandman25

Phased Shift is useful for every character, not just for dodging-based ones.

Wednesday, 17th April 2013, 07:46 by Sojiro

Psieye wrote:All those spells you listed plus ensorcelled hibernation. They can all be discarded - EH because all the seroius threats have way more MR than the power cap on that spell.

But not all of them need to go. There's no reason to get rid of a spell unless it's to replace it by a more useful one. So unless there's something else you think I'm going to need, I don't think I should burn enough scrolls/books to get rid of all of them.

Speaking of usefulness, EH is not something I use to take out serious threats, but mid-level annoyances that would otherwise take much more than 2 hits to take down.

Wednesday, 17th April 2013, 10:00 by Sojiro

I was wondering if Silence and Darkness were worth learning. Also if I end up getting rid of Animate Dead (for Haste for example), is recall still going to be useful? I've been parking undead minions in a corner of the map to recall them when I need a screen, but if I only make short duration summons with Simulacrums and Haunt, that might not be useful anymore.

Thursday, 18th April 2013, 01:19 by prozacelf

I like Darkness, but it's basically the same as the first level of the Nightstalker mutation. So if you find that useful, go for it. 7 spell levels is kind of a lot to get for it though.

Thursday, 18th April 2013, 07:00 by Psieye

Do be aware it's quite loud. Cast it away from sleeping targets.

Thursday, 18th April 2013, 10:17 by Sojiro

OK, that's good to know. I'm currently cleaning the last level of Slime. This is hard.

Thursday, 18th April 2013, 10:23 by rchandra

when I was using darkness to assist in Tomb for a SpEn, I mostly just cast it before going downstairs - in particular, when repeatedly re-entering tomb:3 to reduce the number of greater mummies and priests in view and make it more likely that Dispel Undead would work.

Thursday, 18th April 2013, 10:34 by Sandman25

rchandra wrote:make it more likely that Dispel Undead would work.

What do you mean with this?

Thursday, 18th April 2013, 10:36 by cerebovssquire

Sandman25 wrote:
rchandra wrote:make it more likely that Dispel Undead would work.

What do you mean with this?

they kill you dead otherwise and dead people can't cast DU

Thursday, 18th April 2013, 10:37 by Sojiro

I was thinking that Darkness makes it less likely for summons to get in your way. The spell range becomes closer to the LoS range and there are less summonners in the area at any given time. Summons blocking the line of fire were my main problem with using DU to clear Tomb:3.

Thursday, 18th April 2013, 10:51 by Sandman25

cerebovssquire wrote:
Sandman25 wrote:
rchandra wrote:make it more likely that Dispel Undead would work.

What do you mean with this?

they kill you dead otherwise and dead people can't cast DU

lol
Darkness is superior to Robe of Archmagi then, it improves spells/melee/ranged

Thursday, 18th April 2013, 10:53 by Sandman25

Sojiro wrote:I was thinking that Darkness makes it less likely for summons to get in your way. The spell range becomes closer to the LoS range and there are less summonners in the area at any given time. Summons blocking the line of fire were my main problem with using DU to clear Tomb:3.

I didn't like DU, especially in Tomb. Maybe because I tried it for a hybrid with Ice Storm.

Thursday, 18th April 2013, 18:26 by Sojiro

Yeah, when I tried Tomb with a Fire Storming DS I learned DU thinking it'd be useful. Not so much. The lvl 9 nukes are way more effective when you can deal with their downsides.

Of course you can get a powerful DU much earlier than a reliable Storm spell, so there's that.

Friday, 19th April 2013, 07:06 by Sojiro

Killed TRJ by spamming Haunt and a couple of Simulacrums at max range. Stayed there thanks to cBlink, because this $#|% can't be shaken off by Swiftness. Who had the great idea to make this thing Speed 14? That was not nice. Not that it's anything new for Crawl...
No loot of value down there. So much for that.

I am now going to try my luck in the Tomb.