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Joined: Thursday, 16th December 2010, 20:52

Post Thursday, 24th February 2011, 21:54

YASD - Hydras are big stupid ugly jerkfaces.

Did you know a hydra can kill you even if you have a square between you when you start going up stairs? It's true.

Oh, I hate hydras. I want to put daggers in each of their big ugly stupid jerkfaces.

I had cleared Swamp:5 and was just searching the rest of the swamp for loot, and ran into an alligator and a hydra that together were giving me more trouble than they usually do. I was out of MP and had about half my HP left so I started running away. I didn't want to waste my only scroll of blinking for a stupid 4-headed hydra when I'd been blasting 10-headed ones easily. Anyhow, I finally ended up on a known stair with a space between me and the hydra, figured I was in the clear, pressed up -- you die!

Grr...

I had some cool gear too:
- the +0,-2 katana of Brutal Revenge {freeze, +Blink +Rage +Inv rElec}
- the +3,+1 Elemental Staff {protect, Hunger Noisy rF++ rC++ MR} - this was in a really cool vault in Elf:4 with successive rooms of different kinds of elementals, very cool.
- the ring "Pruel" (right hand) {AC+1 Str+2 Dex+3 Int+3}

I think I'm done with primary casters for a bit now... I think I'll play some Kenku monks or something and try out some of that new quarterstaff action.

  Code:
 Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.8.0-a0-5348-gdf1c42a character file.

169435 Spree the Spry (level 17, -2/92 HPs)
             Began as a Spriggan Reaver on Feb 17, 2011.
             Was the Champion of Vehumet.
             Slain by a four-headed hydra (8 damage)
             ... on Level 4 of the Swamp on Feb 24, 2011.
             The game lasted 12:16:42 (84193 turns).

Spree the Spry (Spriggan Reaver)                                   Turns: 84193, Time: 12:16:42

HP  -2/92        AC  7     Str  9 (10) Exp: 17/241057 (3), need: 1392
MP   0/48        EV 39     Int 23      God: Vehumet [******]
Gold 696         SH  0     Dex 18      Spells: 12 memorised,  4 levels left

Res.Fire  : + . .   See Invis. : +   a - +3,+0 elf bow (evade)
Res.Cold  : + + .   Warding    : .   F - +2 robe {rC+ rF+}
Life Prot.: . . .   Conserve   : .   (shield restricted)
Res.Acid. : . . .   Res.Corr.  : .   (helmet restricted)
Res.Poison: +       Clarity    : .   V - +2 elf cloak {rC+}
Res.Elec. : .       Spirit.Shd : +   (gloves unavailable)
Sust.Abil.: . .     Stasis     : .   (boots unavailable)
Res.Mut.  : .       Ctrl.Telep.: .   D - amulet of guardian spirit
Res.Rott. : .       Levitation : .   e - ring "Pruel" {AC+1 Str+2 Dex+3 Int+3}
Saprovore : . . .   Ctrl.Flight: .   p - ring of magical power

@: burdened, very quick, very resistant to hostile enchantments, quite stealthy
A: unfitting armour, see invisible, deformed body 1, herbivore 3, speed 3, poison resistance,
slow metabolism 3, EV +2, Str -1
a: Renounce Religion


You were on level 4 of the Swamp.
You worshipped Vehumet.
Vehumet was exalted by your worship.
You were encumbered.
You were not hungry.

You visited 8 branches of the dungeon, and saw 39 of its levels.
You visited 3 portal chambers: sewer, ice cave, bailey.

You collected 3295 gold pieces.
You spent 2619 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Hand weapons
 a - a +3,+0 elven bow of evasion (weapon)
 b - a +3,+1 elven short sword of electrocution
 u - the +0,-2 katana of Brutal Revenge {freeze, +Blink +Rage +Inv rElec}
   (You found it on level 8 of the Lair of Beasts)   
   It has been specially enchanted to freeze those struck by it, causing extra
   injury to most foes and up to double damage against particularly
   susceptible opponents. It can also slow down cold-blooded creatures.
   It insulates you from electricity.
   It lets you turn invisible.
   It lets you blink.
   It lets you go berserk.
 y - the +3,+1 Elemental Staff {protect, Hunger Noisy rF++ rC++ MR}
   (You found it on level 4 of the Elven Halls)   
   It protects the one who wields it against injury (+5 to AC).
   It greatly protects you from fire.
   It greatly protects you from cold.
   It increases your resistance to enchantments.
   It makes noises.
   It speeds your metabolism.
   This powerful staff used to belong to the leader of the Guild of Five
   Elements.
 B - a +1,+0 elven sabre of draining
Missiles
 o - 25 +0 arrows of dispersal (quivered)
Armour
 C - the +3 cloak of Fedhas' Whim {Str-4 Int+3}
   (You found it on level 5 of the Swamp)   
   It affects your strength (-4).
   It affects your intelligence (+3).
 F - a +2 robe of resistance (worn)
 V - a +2 elven cloak of cold resistance (worn)
Magical devices
 f - a wand of enslavement (5)
 k - a wand of paralysis (7)
 m - a wand of flame (4)
 q - a wand of teleportation (6)
 r - a wand of disintegration (0)
 t - a wand of hasting (7)
 M - a wand of invisibility (5)
Comestibles
 d - 3 bread rations
Scrolls
 c - a scroll of blinking
 w - a scroll of teleportation
 E - a scroll of detect curse
 I - 3 scrolls of fear
 L - a scroll of remove curse
 O - a scroll of magic mapping
Jewellery
 e - the ring "Pruel" (right hand) {AC+1 Str+2 Dex+3 Int+3}
   (You acquired it on level 5 of the Lair of Beasts)   
   [ring of protection]
   It affects your AC (+1).
   It affects your strength (+2).
   It affects your intelligence (+3).
   It affects your dexterity (+3).
 h - an uncursed ring of regeneration
 p - a ring of magical power (left hand)
 D - an amulet of guardian spirit (around neck)
 G - an uncursed ring of fire
Potions
 i - a potion of heal wounds
 j - a potion of agility
 n - 5 potions of healing
 v - a potion of restore abilities
 J - 3 potions of might
Miscellaneous
 g - a decaying rune of Zot
 l - a crystal ball of energy
 s - an ornate deck of war {drawn: 2}


 You had 3 experience left.

   Skills:
 + Level 8 Fighting
 + Level 7 Short Blades
 + Level 4 Long Blades
 + Level 16 Dodging
 - Level 12 Stealth
 - Level 8 Stabbing
 + Level 2 Traps & Doors
 + Level 16 Spellcasting
 + Level 10 Conjurations
 - Level 6 Charms
 - Level 3 Summonings
 - Level 6 Translocations
 + Level 13 Fire Magic
 - Level 3 Air Magic
 - Level 4 Earth Magic
 - Level 1 Poison Magic
 + Level 8 Evocations


You had 4 spell levels left.
You knew the following spells:

 Your Spells              Type           Power        Success   Level  Hunger
a - Repel Missiles        Air/Chrm       ######....   Excellent   2    None
b - Throw Flame           Fire/Conj      #######      Excellent   2    None
c - Abjuration            Summ           #####.....   Excellent   3    None
d - Conjure Flame         Fire/Conj      #######..    Excellent   3    None
e - Iskenderun's Mystic   Conj           #######..    Excellent   4    None
f - Bolt of Magma         Fire/Erth/Conj #######...   Excellent   5    None
g - Fireball              Fire/Conj      #######...   Excellent   6    Honeycomb
h - Mephitic Cloud        Pois/Air/Conj  ######....   Excellent   3    None
i - Blink                 Tloc           N/A          Excellent   2    None
j - Flight                Air/Chrm       ######....   Great       4    None
k - Phase Shift           Tloc           ######....   Great       5    None
m - Shadow Creatures      Summ           N/A          Great       5    None


Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (14/27)            Temple (1/1) D:7             Orc (4/4) D:9
    Elf (4/5) Orc:4          Lair (8/8) D:8           Swamp (5/5) Lair:5
 Shoals (1/5) Lair:3        Slime (0/6) Lair:8         Hive (2/2) D:14
 Vault: D:14-19     

Altars:
Ashenzari
Cheibriados
Elyvilon
Fedhas
Kikubaaqudgha
Makhleb
Nemelex Xobeh
Okawaru
Sif Muna
The Shining One
Trog
Vehumet
Xom
Yredelemnul
Zin
Beogh

Shops:
D:4: %  D:5: !  D:8: *  D:12: [/!!  D:14: *  Orc:4: =(!(

Annotations
D:13 exclusion: orange crystal statue
Elf:1 exclusion: Roxanne
Swamp:5 exclusion: ice statue


                    Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You are tiny and cannot use many weapons and most armour.
You have supernaturally acute eyesight.
You are a herbivore.
You cover ground extremely quickly.
You need consume almost no food.
You are surrounded by a mild repulsion field (EV +2).
Armour fits poorly on your unusually shaped body.
Your system is resistant to poisons.
You are weak (Str -1).


Message History

* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
The alligator completely misses you. The alligator misses you.
The four-headed hydra completely misses you.
The four-headed hydra bites you!
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
The four-headed hydra bites you!
You die...

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You could see an alligator, a four-headed hydra and a giant amoeba.

Vanquished Creatures
  Nikola (Elf:4)
  Kirke (Swamp:3)
  Rupert (D:14)
  Terpsichore (Swamp:5)
  Wiglaf (Elf:4)
  Louise (Swamp:2)
  An orc warlord (Orc:4)
  Maud (Lair:7)
  A dire elephant (Lair:8)
  Azrael (D:14)
  Snorg (Elf:3)
  A deep elf sorcerer (Elf:4)
  The ghost of Migdet the Spear-Bearer, a powerful DSGl of Okawaru (Lair:2)
  Josephine (Elf:2)
  6 hydras
  The ghost of Miglok the Spear-Bearer, a powerful MiGl of Okawaru (Port)
  Erica (D:11)
  Harold (Lair:6)
  3 ice dragons (Swamp:5)
  4 alligators
  3 death yaks
  2 ogre magi (Orc:4)
  An anaconda (Lair:8)
  An orc high priest (Orc:2)
  A centaur warrior (D:14)
  3 vapours (Elf:4)
  A griffon (D:14)
  18 deep elf knights
  5 humans (D:7)
  7 hill giants
  A swamp dragon (Lair:5)
  An ice statue (Port)
  3 orc knights (Port)
  An orc sorcerer (Orc:4)
  2 harpies (Shoals:1)
  2 unseen horrors
  A guardian serpent (shapeshifter) (Elf:3)
  3 giant amoebae (Lair:8)
  A necromancer (Port)
  2 red wasps
  6 dancing weapons
  An oklob plant (Lair:5)
  A dragon zombie (Elf:2)
  3 cyclopes
  A stair mimic (D:13)
  4 elephant slugs
  25 elephants
  4 black mambas
  A fountain mimic (D:12)
  A wolf spider (D:14)
  3 rock trolls
  15 slime creatures
  10 spiny frogs
  5 komodo dragons
  12 trolls
  20 ugly things (D:14)
  A deep troll zombie (Elf:2)
  A wandering mushroom (D:8)
  2 queen bees
  3 polar bears (Lair:8)
  5 two-headed ogres
  3 bog mummies
  A snapping turtle (Shoals:1)
  20 hydra simulacra (Swamp:5)
  4 baby alligators
  13 blink frogs
  A brown ooze (Lair:8)
  16 giant toads
  2 wyverns
  A grizzly bear (Lair:2)
  15 deep elf conjurers
  3 air elementals (Elf:4)
  3 elf simulacra (Port)
  3 wraiths
  38 yaks
  Edmund (D:6)
  5 fire elementals
  A merfolk (Shoals:1)
  Eustachio (D:7)
  6 fire drakes
  12 deep elf summoners
  3 clay golems (Elf:4)
  13 deep elf fighters
  A wood golem (D:13)
  4 war dogs (Lair:4)
  3 water elementals (Elf:4)
  2 hungry ghosts
  7 hippogriffs
  A hog (Swamp:3)
  3 mottled dragons
  24 swamp worms
  13 vampire mosquitoes
  3 manticores
  A necrophage (D:9)
  A hell hound (D:14)
  3 molten gargoyles (Elf:4)
  2 draconian simulacra (Port)
  19 freezing wraiths
  Purgy (Port)
  26 ogres
  8 deep elf priests
  3 sky beasts
  8 yellow wasps
  5 kenku (Swamp:3)
  25 orc warriors
  3 phantoms
  7 giant goldfish
  10 ice beasts
  A naga (D:11)
  7 swamp drakes
  16 centaurs
  9 gila monsters
  21 deep elf magi
  A boring beetle (Lair:7)
  A big kobold (D:11)
  2 wargs
  13 water moccasins
  A giant frog zombie (D:12)
  7 giant slugs
  7 crocodiles
  2 wolves (Lair:8)
  23 giant frogs
  A soldier ant zombie (D:13)
  13 agate snails
  2 earth elementals (Elf:4)
  3 giant leeches
  A troll simulacrum (Port)
  12 wights
  2 giant goldfish simulacra (Swamp:5)
  A wolf simulacrum (Port)
  A killer bee zombie (D:11)
  3 yak simulacra (Port)
  4 swamp worm simulacra (Swamp:5)
  4 human simulacra (Port)
  14 jellyfish
  2 centaur simulacra (Port)
  14 electric eels
  A big kobold zombie (D:14)
  A boulder beetle (Lair:6)
  2 quasits
  19 hounds
  3 goliath beetles
  9 imps
  102 killer bees
  3 lava snakes (D:14)
  2 gila monster zombies
  2 big kobold skeletons
  A gila monster skeleton (D:6)
  23 orc priests
  A hound zombie (D:12)
  9 iguanas
  5 big fish
  4 porcupines
  2 shadows
  2 hound skeletons
  4 scorpions
  35 deep elf soldiers
  20 sheep
  35 orc wizards
  14 worker ants
  An ogre simulacrum (Port)
  4 jellies
  3 fire vortices (Elf:4)
  A mummy (D:12)
  3 naga simulacra (Port)
  3 gnolls (D:7)
  20 snakes
  39 green rats
  2 giant centipedes
  A lemure (Elf:4)
  14 white imps
  3 giant mites
  A snake skeleton (D:9)
  A giant centipede zombie (D:10)
  An iguana skeleton (D:9)
  An ufetubus (Elf:1)
  22 worms
  Terence (D:2)
  2 electric eel simulacra (Swamp:5)
  2 grey rats (Elf:1)
  2 giant eyeballs
  A megabat skeleton (D:12)
  4 oozes
  24 goblins
  15 hobgoblins
  25 jackals
  40 megabats
  238 orcs
  12 quokkas
  7 small snakes
  9 giant cockroaches
  9 giant geckos
  2 giant gecko zombies
  16 giant newts
  A giant spore (D:13)
  49 killer bee larvae
  13 kobolds
  4 orc simulacra (Port)
  5 orc skeletons
  3 orc zombies
  39 rats
  A rat skeleton (D:3)
  10 fungi
  5 plants
  64 toadstools
1771 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (collateral kills)
  A hydra (Swamp:4)
  An alligator (Swamp:4)
  A deep elf knight (Elf:1)
  A cyclops (Orc:4)
  5 slime creatures
  3 bog mummies
  A baby alligator (Swamp:4)
  3 two-headed ogres (Orc:4)
  A deep elf conjurer (Elf:4)
  A vampire mosquito (Swamp:4)
  A swamp worm (Swamp:4)
  2 insubstantial wisps (Swamp:5)
  An orc warrior (Orc:4)
  3 ogres (Orc:4)
  A swamp drake (Swamp:4)
  A giant leech (Swamp:4)
  4 deep elf soldiers
  A snake (Swamp:3)
  A grey rat (Elf:3)
  4 orcs
  A megabat (Elf:1)
  A toadstool (Orc:4)
39 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (others)
  An alligator (Swamp:5)
  A wolf spider (D:14)
  6 humans (Swamp:3)
  25 slime creatures
  A troll (D:14)
  4 deep elf conjurers
  A neqoxec (Elf:4)
  2 deep elf fighters (Elf:4)
  A merfolk (Shoals:1)
  A deep elf priest (Elf:4)
  3 troll zombies (Orc:4)
  An ogre (Orc:4)
  2 water moccasins
  A giant leech (Swamp:4)
  A killer bee (D:14)
  An ogre zombie (Orc:4)
  An imp (Orc:4)
  4 orc skeletons (Orc:4)
  2 ufetubi (Elf:1)
  2 giant geckos
  A hobgoblin (D:14)
  A megabat (Swamp:4)
  An orc (Orc:2)
  2 jackals (D:7)
  5 killer bee larvae (Hive:2)
  A kobold (D:6)
  3 orc zombies (Orc:4)
  A rat (Swamp:4)
  13 fungi
  4 plants
  283 toadstools
376 creatures vanquished.

Grand Total: 2186 creatures vanquished

Notes
Turn   | Place   | Note
--------------------------------------------------------------
     0 | D:1     | Spree, the Spriggan Reaver, began the quest for the Orb.
     0 | D:1     | Reached XP level 1. HP: 11/11 MP: 2/2
    27 | D:1     | Reached skill level 1 in Conjurations
   682 | D:1     | Killed monsters: 0 trivial, 9 easy, 0 tough, 0 nasty; 5 corpses
   682 | D:1     | Reached XP level 2. HP: 14/14 MP: 1/5
   724 | D:1     | Learned a level 2 spell: Throw Flame
  1907 | D:2     | Gained mutation: Your system is resistant to poisons.
  1907 | D:2     | Gained mutation: You are surrounded by a mild repulsion field (EV +2).
  1907 | D:2     | Gained mutation: Armour fits poorly on your unusually shaped body.
  1913 | D:2     | Killed monsters: 11 trivial, 7 easy, 0 tough, 0 nasty; 9 corpses
  1913 | D:2     | Reached XP level 3. HP: 19/19 MP: 2/7
  2152 | D:2     | Reached skill level 1 in Stealth
  2413 | D:2     | Learned a level 3 spell: Conjure Flame
  2617 | D:2     | Noticed Terence
  2633 | D:2     | Defeated Terence
  3139 | D:3     | Killed monsters: 22 trivial, 1 easy, 1 tough, 0 nasty; 12 corpses
  3139 | D:3     | Reached XP level 4. HP: 11/22 MP: 2/11
  3743 | D:3     | Reached skill level 4 in Short Blades
  4028 | D:3     | Found a glowing drain.
  4044 | D:3     | Killed monsters: 17 trivial, 2 easy, 0 tough, 0 nasty; 10 corpses
  4044 | D:3     | Reached XP level 5. HP: 18/27 MP: 10/13
  4087 | sewer   | Entered the sewers
  4378 | sewer   | Noticed Purgy
  4413 | sewer   | Defeated Purgy
  4566 | sewer   | Killed monsters: 6 trivial, 2 easy, 0 tough, 1 nasty; 2 corpses
  4566 | sewer   | Reached XP level 6. HP: 26/31 MP: 14/16
  5173 | D:4     | Got a bloodstained animal skin
  5315 | D:4     | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging
  5412 | D:4     | Reached skill level 1 in Stabbing
  5588 | D:4     | Identified the +0 animal skin of Ihapril (You found it on level 4 of the Dungeon)
  5646 | D:4     | Found Ogikesuh's Food Shoppe.
  5656 | D:4     | Bought a choko for 4 gold pieces
  5656 | D:4     | Bought a choko for 4 gold pieces
  5656 | D:4     | Bought a choko for 4 gold pieces
  5937 | D:5     | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
  6260 | D:5     | Reached skill level 1 in Fire Magic
  6657 | D:5     | Reached skill level 5 in Spellcasting
  6669 | D:5     | Killed monsters: 22 trivial, 2 easy, 5 tough, 0 nasty; 13 corpses
  6669 | D:5     | Reached XP level 7. HP: 36/36 MP: 2/20
  7132 | D:5     | Learned a level 3 spell: Stone Arrow
  7228 | D:5     | Reached skill level 6 in Spellcasting
  7496 | D:5     | Found Loanu's Distillery.
  7504 | D:5     | Bought a potion of resistance for 91 gold pieces
  7504 | D:5     | Bought a potion of confusion for 1 gold piece
  8305 | D:6     | Killed monsters: 12 trivial, 5 easy, 6 tough, 0 nasty; 8 corpses
  8305 | D:6     | Reached XP level 8. HP: 40/40 MP: 15/23
  9056 | D:6     | Noticed Edmund
  9058 | D:6     | Reached skill level 7 in Spellcasting
  9074 | D:6     | Defeated Edmund
  9192 | D:6     | Reached skill level 5 in Stealth
  9741 | D:7     | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple.
  9751 | Temple  | Entered the Ecumenical Temple
  9813 | Temple  | Became a worshipper of Vehumet
  9858 | D:7     | Reached skill level 5 in Fire Magic
 10013 | D:7     | Noticed Eustachio
 10037 | D:7     | Defeated Eustachio
 10037 | D:7     | Killed monsters: 22 trivial, 9 easy, 9 tough, 0 nasty; 12 corpses
 10037 | D:7     | Reached XP level 9. HP: 45/45 MP: 21/25
 10395 | D:7     | Reached skill level 8 in Spellcasting
 10453 | D:7     | Reached skill level 1 in Evocations
 10521 | D:7     | Reached skill level 1 in Earth Magic
 11285 | D:7     | Acquired Vehumet's first power
 11496 | D:7     | Reached skill level 9 in Spellcasting
 11498 | D:7     | Killed monsters: 9 trivial, 16 easy, 3 tough, 3 nasty; 19 corpses
 11498 | D:7     | Reached XP level 10. HP: 36/51 MP: 13/28
 12207 | D:7     | Reached skill level 5 in Short Blades
 12517 | D:8     | Found a sparkling altar of Nemelex Xobeh.
 12664 | D:8     | Noticed a wandering mushroom
 12665 | D:8     | Found a staircase to the Lair.
 12678 | D:8     | Defeated a wandering mushroom
 12689 | D:8     | Found a deep blue altar of Sif Muna.
 12747 | D:8     | Reached skill level 5 in Stabbing
 12851 | D:8     | Reached skill level 10 in Dodging
 12900 | D:8     | Found Stuushro's General Store.
 12915 | D:8     | Bought a potion of speed for 32 gold pieces
 12915 | D:8     | Bought a pear for 10 gold pieces
 12915 | D:8     | Bought a scroll of identify for 26 gold pieces
 13358 | D:8     | Acquired Vehumet's second power
 15013 | D:9     | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting
 15079 | D:9     | Found a bloodstained altar of Trog.
 15087 | D:9     | Acquired Vehumet's third power
 15126 | D:9     | Got a warped mace
 15127 | D:9     | Identified the mace of the Lurker {speed, Str+1} (You found it on level 9 of the Dungeon)
 15173 | D:9     | Learned a level 5 spell: Bolt of Magma
 15477 | D:9     | Killed monsters: 51 trivial, 33 easy, 23 tough, 0 nasty; 43 corpses
 15477 | D:9     | Reached XP level 11. HP: 56/60 MP: 10/29
 15852 | D:9     | Acquired Vehumet's fourth power
 16103 | D:9     | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines.
 16378 | D:9     | Reached skill level 10 in Spellcasting
 16378 | D:9     | Reached skill level 11 in Dodging
 16574 | D:9     | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 2 turns
 16581 | D:9     | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 3 turns
 16802 | D:10    | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon
 19030 | D:11    | Reached skill level 5 in Conjurations
 19065 | D:11    | Noticed Erica
 19599 | D:11    | Defeated Erica
 19984 | D:11    | Learned a level 6 spell: Fireball
 20299 | D:12    | Found Pnaut's Distillery.
 20311 | D:12    | Found Smuerub's Distillery.
 20315 | D:12    | Bought 2 potions of paralysis for 3 gold pieces
 20315 | D:12    | Bought a potion of degeneration for 1 gold piece
 20436 | D:12    | Bought 2 potions of magic for 196 gold pieces
 20803 | D:12    | Killed monsters: 40 trivial, 35 easy, 23 tough, 4 nasty; 34 corpses
 20803 | D:12    | Reached XP level 12. HP: 65/65 MP: 31/32
 20949 | D:12    | Reached skill level 1 in Long Blades
 20950 | D:12    | Reached skill level 12 in Dodging
 20958 | D:12    | Found Omuriggo's Antique Armour Shop.
 20967 | D:12    | Bought a glowing robe for 17 gold pieces
 20986 | D:12    | Found Feqaodeuc's Magical Wand Emporium.
 22437 | Lair:1  | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts
 23971 | Lair:2  | Noticed Migdet's ghost (powerful DSGl)
 24236 | Lair:2  | Defeated Migdet's ghost
 24392 | Lair:2  | Found a blossoming altar of Fedhas.
 24428 | Lair:2  | Reached skill level 10 in Fire Magic
 25780 | Lair:2  | Reached skill level 13 in Dodging
 25933 | Lair:3  | Found a staircase to the Shoals.
 26807 | Lair:4  | Killed monsters: 46 trivial, 56 easy, 30 tough, 4 nasty; 60 corpses
 26807 | Lair:4  | Reached XP level 13. HP: 70/70 MP: 34/34
 26945 | Lair:4  | Received a gift from Vehumet
 26966 | Lair:4  | Learned a level 4 spell: Iskenderun's Mystic Blast
 27794 | Lair:4  | Reached skill level 14 in Dodging
 27980 | Lair:5  | Found a staircase to the Swamp.
 28073 | Lair:5  | Identified a scroll of acquirement
 28074 | Lair:5  | Got a glittering copper ring
 28076 | Lair:5  | Identified the ring "Pruel" {Str+2 Dex+3 Int+3} (You acquired it on level 5 of the Lair of Beasts)
 29391 | Lair:6  | Noticed Harold
 29397 | Lair:6  | Reached skill level 5 in Evocations
 29398 | Lair:6  | Defeated Harold
 30371 | Lair:6  | Reached skill level 1 in Traps & Doors
 30402 | Lair:6  | Reached skill level 10 in Stealth
 30645 | Lair:7  | Noticed Maud
 32038 | Lair:6  | Learned a level 3 spell: Teleport Other
 32370 | Lair:7  | Reached skill level 1 in Translocations
 32721 | Lair:7  | Defeated Maud
 32721 | Lair:7  | Killed monsters: 48 trivial, 43 easy, 39 tough, 3 nasty; 72 corpses
 32721 | Lair:7  | Reached XP level 14. HP: 76/76 MP: 12/36
 33624 | Lair:8  | Entered Level 8 of the Lair of Beasts
 33636 | Lair:8  | Reached skill level 15 in Dodging
 33651 | Lair:8  | Found a frozen archway.
 33716 | IceCv   | Entered an ice cave
 35065 | IceCv   | Received a gift from Vehumet
 35121 | IceCv   | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha.
 35211 | IceCv   | Learned a level 2 spell: Blink
 35492 | Lair:8  | Learned a level 2 spell: Slow
 36342 | Lair:8  | Found a staircase to the Slime Pits.
 37381 | Lair:8  | Learned a level 5 spell: Phase Shift
 37969 | Lair:3  | Learned a level 3 spell: Abjuration
 38249 | Orc:1   | Entered Level 1 of the Orcish Mines
 39244 | Lair:7  | Got a crystal knife
 39438 | Lair:4  | Got a twisted sling
 39563 | Lair:1  | Identified the knife of Laeck {holy, rElec} (You found it on level 7 of the Lair of Beasts)
 39567 | Lair:1  | Identified the cursed sling of Corporal Punishment {venom, +Inv +Lev} (You found it on level 4 of the Lair of Beasts)
 40013 | Orc:2   | Noticed an orc high priest
 40018 | Orc:2   | Defeated an orc high priest
 40534 | Orc:3   | Received a gift from Vehumet
 40551 | Orc:3   | Learned a level 2 spell: Call Imp
 41296 | Orc:3   | Found a flagged portal.
 41370 | bailey  | Entered the bailey
 41828 | bailey  | Noticed Miglok's ghost (powerful MiGl)
 42237 | bailey  | Defeated Miglok's ghost
 42489 | bailey  | Got a twitching amber ring
 42995 | bailey  | Identified the ring of Blefoom {Dex-6} (You found it in the bailey)
 43316 | Orc:3   | Noticed a two-headed ogre
 43318 | Orc:3   | Defeated a two-headed ogre
 43480 | Orc:4   | Entered Level 4 of the Orcish Mines
 43862 | Orc:4   | Found a staircase to the Elven Halls.
 44226 | Orc:4   | Found Feree's Distillery.
 44290 | Orc:4   | Noticed an ogre mage
 44357 | Orc:4   | Noticed a two-headed ogre
 44359 | Orc:4   | Defeated a two-headed ogre
 44481 | Orc:4   | Noticed a two-headed ogre
 44485 | Orc:4   | Defeated a two-headed ogre
 44487 | Orc:4   | Reached skill level 1 in Summonings
 44506 | Orc:4   | Noticed a two-headed ogre
 44511 | Orc:4   | Defeated a two-headed ogre
 44540 | Orc:4   | Noticed a two-headed ogre
 44541 | Orc:4   | Noticed a two-headed ogre
 44548 | Orc:4   | Defeated a two-headed ogre
 44549 | Orc:4   | Defeated a two-headed ogre
 44556 | Orc:4   | Noticed a rock troll
 44559 | Orc:4   | Noticed a cyclops
 44560 | Orc:4   | Noticed a two-headed ogre
 44565 | Orc:4   | Defeated a two-headed ogre
 44567 | Orc:4   | Defeated a cyclops
 44587 | Orc:4   | Defeated a rock troll
 44587 | Orc:4   | Killed monsters: 182 trivial, 93 easy, 38 tough, 0 nasty; 127 corpses
 44587 | Orc:4   | Reached XP level 15. HP: 81/81 MP: 3/37
 44823 | Orc:4   | Received a gift from Vehumet
 45326 | Orc:4   | Found Anetiw's Weapon Shoppe.
 45329 | Orc:4   | Found Usofes' Weapon Shop.
 45407 | Orc:4   | Noticed an orc warlord
 45755 | Orc:4   | Defeated an ogre mage
 45797 | Orc:4   | Noticed a cyclops
 45851 | Orc:4   | Noticed an ogre mage
 45862 | Orc:4   | Noticed a rock troll
 45879 | Orc:4   | Defeated an ogre mage
 46126 | Orc:4   | Found Kluifar's Jewellery Shoppe.
 46151 | Orc:4   | Defeated a cyclops
 46258 | Orc:4   | Defeated a rock troll
 46859 | Orc:4   | Defeated an orc warlord
 47261 | Orc:2   | Noticed a cyclops
 47307 | Orc:2   | Defeated a cyclops
 47373 | Orc:2   | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh.
 49771 | D:14    | Found a staircase to the Hive.
 49855 | D:14    | Noticed a fire elemental
 49856 | D:14    | Noticed a fire elemental
 49859 | D:14    | Noticed Azrael
 49872 | D:14    | Defeated a fire elemental
 49882 | D:14    | Defeated Azrael
 49969 | D:14    | Defeated a fire elemental
 50036 | D:14    | Noticed Rupert
 50100 | D:14    | Defeated Rupert
 50390 | D:14    | Got a faintly glowing robe
 50432 | D:14    | Identified the cursed +0 robe of the Hidden Ghosts (You found it on level 14 of the Dungeon)
 50536 | D:14    | Reached skill level 15 in Spellcasting
 51118 | D:14    | Found Jitoniaruo's Assorted Antiques.
 51125 | D:14    | Bought a glowing dagger for 52 gold pieces
 51125 | D:14    | Bought a scroll of identify for 52 gold pieces
 51125 | D:14    | Bought a scroll of amnesia for 130 gold pieces
 51125 | D:14    | Bought a shiny wooden ring for 130 gold pieces
 51125 | D:14    | Bought a metal-bound book for 390 gold pieces
 52060 | Hive:1  | Entered Level 1 of the Hive
 52117 | Hive:2  | Entered Level 2 of the Hive
 54717 | Hive:2  | Killed monsters: 172 trivial, 147 easy, 27 tough, 2 nasty; 152 corpses
 54717 | Hive:2  | Reached XP level 16. HP: 84/84 MP: 36/38
 55642 | Hive:2  | Learned a level 5 spell: Shadow Creatures
 55903 | Elf:1   | Entered Level 1 of the Elven Halls
 57365 | Lair:8  | Got a brightly glowing katana
 57366 | Lair:8  | Identified the katana of Brutal Revenge {freeze, +Blink +Rage +Inv rElec} (You found it on level 8 of the Lair of Beasts)
 58444 | Lair:1  | Learned a level 3 spell: Mephitic Cloud
 59821 | Lair:1  | Learned a level 4 spell: Flight
 61112 | Elf:1   | Noticed Roxanne
 61501 | Elf:1   | Reached skill level 1 in Charms
 62108 | Elf:1   | Reached skill level 1 in Air Magic
 62865 | D:9     | Noticed a rock troll
 63598 | Elf:2   | Noticed Josephine
 63606 | Elf:2   | Defeated Josephine
 64691 | Elf:2   | Gained mutation: You are weak (Str -1).
 64711 | Elf:2   | Gained mutation: You are weak (Str -2).
 65582 | Elf:3   | Reached skill level 1 in Poison Magic
 65801 | Elf:3   | Noticed Snorg
 65824 | Elf:3   | Defeated Snorg
 66159 | Elf:3   | Found a radiant altar of Vehumet.
 67155 | Elf:4   | Found a burning altar of Makhleb.
 67189 | Elf:4   | Noticed Nikola
 67204 | Elf:4   | Defeated Nikola
 67833 | Elf:4   | Reached skill level 5 in Translocations
 69177 | Elf:4   | Got a levitating book
 69179 | Elf:4   | Got a black staff
 69181 | Elf:4   | Got a conspicuous book
 69182 | Elf:4   | Identified the Elemental Staff {protect, Hunger Noisy rF++ rC++ MR} (You found it on level 4 of the Elven Halls)
 69183 | Elf:4   | Identified the Catalogue of Clay (You found it on level 4 of the Elven Halls)
 69183 | Elf:4   | Identified Nikola's Compendium of the Birds and Enhancements (You found it on level 4 of the Elven Halls)
 69872 | Elf:4   | Reached skill level 5 in Charms
 70358 | Elf:4   | Noticed Wiglaf
 70391 | Elf:4   | Defeated Wiglaf
 70391 | Elf:4   | Reached XP level 17. HP: 92/92 MP: 9/39
 70410 | Elf:4   | Learned a level 2 spell: Repel Missiles
 72262 | D:4     | Bought a bread ration for 48 gold pieces
 72262 | D:4     | Bought a bread ration for 48 gold pieces
 72262 | D:4     | Bought a bread ration for 48 gold pieces
 72262 | D:4     | Bought an apricot for 9 gold pieces
 72262 | D:4     | Bought a bread ration for 48 gold pieces
 72262 | D:4     | Bought an apple for 9 gold pieces
 72262 | D:4     | Bought an apple for 9 gold pieces
 72359 | D:5     | Bought a potion of heal wounds for 39 gold pieces
 72359 | D:5     | Bought a potion of heal wounds for 39 gold pieces
 72359 | D:5     | Bought a potion of heal wounds for 39 gold pieces
 72505 | D:8     | Bought a crystal ball of energy for 650 gold pieces
 72547 | D:9     | Defeated a rock troll
 73033 | D:12    | Bought a potion of gain strength for 490 gold pieces
 73058 | D:12    | Lost mutation: You are weak (Str -2).
 73339 | Shoals:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Shoals
 73884 | Swamp:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Swamp
 75381 | Swamp:2 | Noticed Louise
 75404 | Swamp:2 | Defeated Louise
 76882 | Swamp:3 | Noticed Kirke
 76900 | Swamp:3 | Defeated Kirke
 79424 | Swamp:4 | Reached skill level 16 in Dodging
 79579 | Swamp:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Swamp
 79601 | Swamp:5 | Noticed Terpsichore
 80966 | Swamp:5 | Defeated Terpsichore
 81038 | Swamp:5 | Reached skill level 10 in Conjurations
 82481 | Swamp:5 | Got a decaying rune of Zot
 83001 | Swamp:5 | Got a steaming cloak
 83283 | Swamp:4 | Identified the cursed +3 cloak of Fedhas' Whim (You found it on level 5 of the Swamp)
 84193 | Swamp:4 | Slain by a four-headed hydra

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Post Friday, 25th February 2011, 08:35

Re: YASD - Hydras are big stupid ugly jerkfaces.

You already mentioned it in another thread, but, as a lesson to everyone:
  Code:
You were encumbered.

Which means:
Henzell wrote:Climbing stairs takes 1 extra turn, +1 to movement delay, +2 hunger, stealth is halved, slows unarmed combat.


The lesson should be clear now.
... and forgive us our YASDs,
As we forgive our developers,
And lead us not into the Abyss,
But deliver us from Sigmund,
For Thine is the Roguelike,
the Orb and the Victory,
now and forever.

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Post Friday, 25th February 2011, 15:34

Re: YASD - Hydras are big stupid ugly jerkfaces.

[15:34:15] <Henzell> encumbered[2/2]: Encumbered: Bad. Don't be that ghost.

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Post Friday, 25th February 2011, 15:44

Re: YASD - Hydras are big stupid ugly jerkfaces.

MarvintheParanoidAndroid wrote:[15:34:15] <Henzell> encumbered[2/2]: Encumbered: Bad. Don't be that ghost.

At least, danr is the ghost only to himself ;).
... and forgive us our YASDs,
As we forgive our developers,
And lead us not into the Abyss,
But deliver us from Sigmund,
For Thine is the Roguelike,
the Orb and the Victory,
now and forever.
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Post Friday, 25th February 2011, 17:46

Re: YASD - Hydras are big stupid ugly jerkfaces.

Yeah, if I had realized I was encumbered, it would have been trivial to drop something heavy and put that spring back in my spriggan step.

To be honest I was getting a bit tired of playing this character anyway. So much time is spent regaining MP when you play a primary conjurer.

I think I'm hooked on magic, but I think I'm going to try some builds where it has more of a support role.

But yeah - burdened / encumbered is not a state you should allow to persist - ever. I had flight so I was using that to sometimes get away with it, but with my amulet of guardian spirit I was out of MP, so I couldn't fly, and thus I died.
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Post Friday, 25th February 2011, 18:22

Re: YASD - Hydras are big stupid ugly jerkfaces.

danr wrote:So much time is spent regaining MP when you play a primary conjurer.


Ain't that the truth!

I'm pretty sure that my unhealthy fascination with Kiku is mostly because I get Sublimation of Blood to deal with all the waiting around.
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Post Friday, 25th February 2011, 19:34

Re: YASD - Hydras are big stupid ugly jerkfaces.

This was the first time I used an orb of energy but to be honest I was starting to question whether it was worth it. It only worked reliably if I was only down about 10 MP, an even then it would sometimes spontaneously drain all my MP, or drain a bunch of Int. So any time savings I think were more than sucked up by the costs of then recovering MP from 0, and wasting potions of restore abilities to get my Int back.

It was nice to be able to cast my buffs (RMsl/Fly/Phase Shift), then hit the orb and quickly get back to full MP before entering the fray, but the occasional cost was just too steep. I think I'll steer clear of that in future.

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Post Friday, 25th February 2011, 20:04

Re: YASD - Hydras are big stupid ugly jerkfaces.

danr wrote:But yeah - burdened / encumbered is not a state you should allow to persist - ever. I had flight so I was using that to sometimes get away with it, but with my amulet of guardian spirit I was out of MP, so I couldn't fly, and thus I died.


amulet of guardian spirit on a caster? you so crazy!
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Post Friday, 25th February 2011, 20:35

Re: YASD - Hydras are big stupid ugly jerkfaces.

Well, it was the only amulet of use that I really found all game. It actually saved my hide a few times where I would have been one-shotted were it not for those 30-45 extra HP.

It also helped me to remember to run away from anything that was really able to hurt me. "What, out of MP already, I only cast IMB twice! Oh - he just hit me for 60 damage. Okay, time to run". And then I'd be running away but with still having about 75% of my HP, so I could get away without too much worry.

This worked well as I was relying on spriggan speed and not spells to escape from trouble, so losing all my MP was not a problem for escaping. It would have worked this time too, except I was encumbered. Oh well...

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Post Saturday, 26th February 2011, 07:17

Re: YASD - Hydras are big stupid ugly jerkfaces.

Yep, crystal ball of energy is risky. On my first really successful primary caster (NaVM that fell in Zot:5), I took Chei instead of Vehu/Sif so I needed an alternative means of MP regeneration. Even at 15 Evocations or so the Crystal ball was failing when I had used up about 25% of my MP. So to be safe, I ended up usually casting just one or two IMBs/Iron Shots and then refilling. Even then, I had MP drained to 0 in bad times (once on Vaults:8 next to a Gold Dragon, once on Zot:1 next to a Tentacled Monstrosity) so you should always have potions of magic handy. I had already used mine up so I ended up blasting with a wand. Still, crystal ball or energy is risky and it shouldn't be your only source of MP regeneration if you don't have Vehu, Sif, or Makhleb. Get a staff of channeling or something.

As for hydras being horrible, I must say I agree. On a recent TrCK of Makhleb, I was having troubles with hydra because of course Troll claws chop off their heads. I started summoning Greater Servants to take down hydras every time I met them in the Lair, and even then 8,9,10-headed hydras were able to defeat the weaker Greater Servants (Green, Blue Deaths) in just 2 turns! I ended up using Greater Destruction on them (it's actually a very good Invocation, contrary to popular belief). A close-range Orb of Destruction can OHKO a 6-headed hydra at full health.
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Xom grants you an implement of some kind.
_Something appears at your feet!
4790 gold pieces {god gift}.

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Post Sunday, 27th February 2011, 20:04

Re: YASD - Hydras are big stupid ugly jerkfaces.

joellercoaster wrote:
danr wrote:So much time is spent regaining MP when you play a primary conjurer.


Ain't that the truth!


Sure it is!
I can compare my MDFi and SpVM winners' turncounts. That MDFi was almost twice as fast (99k vs. 171k turns, vs. 242k turns on my SpVM all-runer).
... and forgive us our YASDs,
As we forgive our developers,
And lead us not into the Abyss,
But deliver us from Sigmund,
For Thine is the Roguelike,
the Orb and the Victory,
now and forever.

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Post Sunday, 27th February 2011, 20:56

Re: YASD - Hydras are big stupid ugly jerkfaces.

Guess I'm one of the few that can't get enough of the crystal ball of energy on conjurers. I can count on one hand the number of times it drained all of my MP. The main negative consequence of using it was when I'd drop 30 int points (50 to 20), but that wasn't an issue thanks to the sheer quantity of royal jelly available. If nothing else, it's an amazing tool for breaching areas like Vaults:8 as you can fully buff, use the crystal ball, and then descend the stairs with full MP. Even in a more typical fight, I'd generally toss out a couple ice storms, clear the screen, and pop the crystal ball to be ready for possible off screen enemies (Note that I worshiped Vehemut, so I could hit things off screen and his MP related passives minimized the risk of the crystal ball).

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Post Monday, 28th February 2011, 04:31

Re: YASD - Hydras are big stupid ugly jerkfaces.

Ashery wrote:If nothing else, it's an amazing tool for breaching areas like Vaults:8 as you can fully buff, use the crystal ball, and then descend the stairs with full MP.


Sublimation of Blood will allow one to do this as well

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