YASD Jorgrun (was CIP SpWi of Veh)

Saturday, 2nd February 2013, 08:04 by prospero14

Hi all,

Got another spriggan blaster of veh. Not sure what I think of the new 0.12 Veh: it's hard to plan when I don't know what spells I'm going to get. On the other hand, he gave me bolt of fire and I've found the book of annihilations, so it doesn't matter so much. In addition to that book, I've found two lovely artifacts:
the ring "Psuwn" (right hand) {rElec rF+ Dex+3 Int+4}
the +2 robe of Lilacs (worn) {rElec rC+}

Questions:

1) What should I be training? Right now I'm dumping endless xp into Conjuration and Fire, which takes forever on a spriggan. But I'm hoping to do extended, so I gotta train those skills sooner or later.

2) Is it worth wielding this sword?
the +3,+4 long sword "Mnitz" {drain, rPois rF+ Str+4 Dex+4 Int-2}
Long swords are two handed for spriggans, so I couldn't wear my buckler. Yes, that is Int-2.

3) +5 ring of protection or +3 ring of evasion?

4) Is this cloak worth anything:
the cursed -2 cloak "Lijeav" {Dex+3 Int+2} (275 gold)

5) What branch should I do? I've done lair, and orc except for orc 4. Saint Roka is on orc 4 with a large pack, and I'm feeling too squishy to mess with him. Spider seems pointless. Shoals or Vaults then?

Code:: Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.12-a0-2010-gaef24d2 (console) character file. prospero the Eclecticist (Spriggan Wizard) Turns: 48421, Time: 04:28:26 HP 69/69 AC 15 Str 4 XL: 15 Next: 43% MP 33/40 EV 25 Int 30 God: Vehumet [*****.] Gold 1878 SH 13 Dex 18 Spells: 12 memorised, 9 levels left Res.Fire : + . . See Invis. : + D - sabre (protect) Res.Cold : + . . Warding : . s - +2 robe of Lilacs {rElec rC+} Life Prot.: . . . Conserve : . o - +0 elf buckler Res.Poison: . Res.Corr. : . b - +0 wizard hat Res.Elec. : + Clarity : + n - +0 cloak Sust.Abil.: . . Spirit.Shd : . (gloves unavailable) Res.Mut. : . Stasis : . (boots unavailable) Res.Rott. : . Ctrl.Telep.: . x - amulet of clarity Saprovore : . . . Flight : . q - ring "Psuwn" {rElec rF+ Dex+3 Int+4} G - +5 ring of protection @: very quick, very resistant to hostile enchantments, stealthy A: unfitting armour, see invisible, herbivore 3, speed 3, slow metabolism 2, Int +1 a: Renounce Religion You are on level 16 of the Dungeon. You worship Vehumet. Vehumet is exalted by your worship. You are completely stuffed. You have visited 4 branches of the dungeon, and seen 29 of its levels. You have collected 2579 gold pieces. You have spent 721 gold pieces at shops. Inventory: Hand weapons D - an uncursed sabre of protection (weapon) I - the +3,+4 long sword "Mnitz" {drain, rPois rF+ Str+4 Dex+4 Int-2} (You found it on level 6 of the Lair of Beasts) A truly terrible weapon, it drains the life of those it strikes. It affects your strength (+4). It affects your intelligence (-2). It affects your dexterity (+4). It protects you from fire. It protects you from poison. Armour b - a +0 wizard hat (worn) n - a +0 cloak (worn) o - a +0 elven buckler (worn) s - the +2 robe of Lilacs (worn) {rElec rC+} (You found it on level 8 of the Lair of Beasts) It protects you from cold. It insulates you from electricity. Magical devices d - a wand of paralysis (8) f - a wand of cold (6) g - a wand of hasting {recharged} k - a wand of lightning {zapped: 4} p - a wand of fireball {zapped: 2} v - a wand of polymorph other {zapped: 1} y - a wand of digging {zapped: 3} Comestibles m - 2 bread rations Scrolls c - 2 scrolls of fear l - 2 scrolls of teleportation H - 2 scrolls of fog Jewellery i - a +3 ring of evasion q - the ring "Psuwn" (right hand) {rElec rF+ Dex+3 Int+4} (You found it on level 2 of the Lair of Beasts) [ring of protection from fire] It affects your intelligence (+4). It affects your dexterity (+3). It insulates you from electricity. x - an amulet of clarity (around neck) G - a +5 ring of protection (left hand) Potions e - a potion of speed j - a potion of restore abilities r - a potion of invisibility u - 3 potions of might w - 3 potions of curing z - 3 potions of flight B - 2 potions of brilliance E - 3 potions of heal wounds Skills: - Level 6.2 Fighting - Level 10.0 Dodging - Level 3.0 Stealth - Level 1.9 Shields - Level 3.0 Traps - Level 18.4 Spellcasting + Level 13.4 Conjurations - Level 10.2 Charms - Level 0.7 Summonings - Level 1.5 Translocations + Level 11.7 Fire Magic - Level 2.1 Poison Magic You have 9 spell levels left. You know the following spells: Your Spells Type Power Failure Level Hunger a - Magic Dart Conj ##### 0% 1 None b - Blink Tloc N/A 1% 2 None c - Call Imp Summ #####..... 1% 2 None d - Mephitic Cloud Conj/Pois/Air #######.. 1% 3 None e - Conjure Flame Conj/Fire ########. 1% 3 None f - Repel Missiles Chrm/Air #######... 1% 2 None g - Bolt of Fire Conj/Fire ########.. 1% 6 None i - Fireball Conj/Fire ########.. 1% 5 None j - Iskenderun's Arcane Conj/Chrm ########. 1% 4 None k - Haste Chrm #######.. 4% 6 None l - Poison Arrow Conj/Pois #######... 3% 6 None m - Summon Butterflies Summ #####.... 1% 1 None Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations Branches: Dungeon (16/27) Temple (1/1) D:4 Orc (4/4) D:9 Lair (8/8) D:8 Shoals (0/5) Lair:5 Spider (0/5) Lair:6 Slime (0/6) Lair:8 Vaults (0/5) D:16 Elf: Orc:3-4 Altars: Ashenzari Cheibriados Elyvilon Fedhas Kikubaaqudgha Makhleb Nemelex Xobeh Okawaru Sif Muna Trog Vehumet Xom Yredelemnul Zin the Shining One Beogh Jiyva Shops: D:4: * D:9: %* D:10: * D:11: * Orc:2: [ Portals: Trove: D:16 (give +4 ice dragon armour) Annotations D:13 exclusion: oklob plant Orc:4 Saint Roka Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations You are tiny and cannot use many weapons and most armour. You have supernaturally acute eyesight. You are a herbivore. You cover ground extremely quickly. You need consume almost no food. Your mind is acute (Int +1). Message History a dagger; a stone Items here: %%% )) [[ a human skeleton; an orc skeleton; a robe; an orcish club; an orcish robe; an orcish dagger; an orc skeleton Items here: % )) [[ an orcish splint mail; an uncursed orcish glaive; an orcish splint mail; an orc skeleton; a glowing demon whip Things that are here: a scroll of fog; a scroll of magic mapping; a scroll of identify There are several objects here. Pick up a scroll of fog? ((y)es/(n)o/(a)ll/(m)enu/*?g,/q) Pick up a scroll of magic mapping? ((y)es/(n)o/(a)ll/(m)enu/*?g,/q) Pick up a scroll of identify? ((y)es/(n)o/(a)ll/(m)enu/*?g,/q) You are being weighed down by all of your possessions. a - a scroll of identify Read which item? (? for menu, Esc to quit) Identify which item? (? for menu, Esc to quit) As you read the scroll of identify, it crumbles to dust. f - a wand of cold (6) Identify which item? (? for menu, Esc to quit) I - the +3,+4 long sword "Mnitz" {drain, rPois rF+ Str+4 Dex+4 Int-2} Your possessions no longer seem quite so burdensome. ########.. #..(#. #...§§§.... ####.# #...§§§.... #.#.## #...§§§.... ##..# #.######... ###.## ### #.## ### #..... #...#####..# #.# ###.## ##.......##.## #.#####.## .......#.#.#.#####.?.....## .......#..###......####### #......(#.#@..#...#.# ....#(##*..##....# #.......#...#.#..## ##.#####.###.##..# ##.#%###..##### #.[).........# ####%..######.# #........# ## #)...#.#.# #. #...)#.#.# .. #......#.# # #. There are no monsters in sight! Vanquished Creatures Rupert (Lair:5) Maud (D:16) Erica (D:11) Harold (D:11) Josephine (D:11) 7 hydras A wolf spider zombie (D:16) 12 death yaks 2 centaur warriors Erolcha (D:8) 3 unseen horrors A wizard (D:16) Pikel (D:4) 4 hill giants An orc knight (D:16) 2 griffons A lindwurm (D:15) A harpy zombie (D:13) 2 cyclopes An elephant slug (Lair:6) A griffon zombie (D:10) A dragon zombie (D:15) 20 elephants 6 black mambas A hill giant zombie (D:15) 10 slime creatures A queen ant (D:13) Psyche (D:11) 16 spiny frogs 6 komodo dragons 8 ugly things Sonja (D:15) 5 trolls A wandering mushroom (D:16) 8 blink frogs 4 two-headed ogres A rock troll skeleton (D:14) A grizzly bear (Lair:8) 3 basilisks 7 hippogriffs A hungry ghost (D:10) A wraith (D:12) 6 wyverns 34 yaks 2 steam dragons Eustachio (D:5) A fire drake (Lair:6) 10 war dogs A blink frog skeleton (D:14) A merfolk (D:7) A trapdoor spider (D:14) 2 necrophages (D:11) A yaktaur zombie (D:12) 2 hell hounds (Lair:8) 3 manticores 3 boulder beetles 7 soldier ants (D:13) 19 orc warriors 2 slaves (D:4) A manticore skeleton (D:11) 6 sky beasts 8 ice beasts 3 phantoms 2 troll zombies 2 swamp drakes (Lair:6) 11 ogres 6 giant goldfish A yellow wasp (D:12) 14 centaurs 13 crocodiles 7 wargs 5 giant slugs 6 wolves 16 big kobolds 2 agate snails A basilisk zombie (D:10) 13 water moccasins Blork the orc (D:9) 17 giant frogs 5 basilisk skeletons 14 killer bees 2 eyes of draining 7 wights A killer bee zombie (D:9) 13 electric eels 3 goliath beetles 16 jellyfish 3 shadows 6 crimson imps 3 quasits 2 big kobold skeletons 20 hounds 2 big kobold zombies (D:13) A brain worm zombie (D:13) A mottled dragon zombie (D:13) 7 big fish 8 spiders (Lair:6) Crazy Yiuf (D:5) 20 orc priests A hound skeleton (D:11) 27 orc wizards 8 scorpions 7 iguanas 2 worker ant zombies 27 worker ants 10 porcupines A worm zombie (D:6) 5 jellies A goliath beetle zombie (D:14) A mummy (D:13) 12 gnolls An iguana zombie (D:9) 20 adders 6 giant centipedes 55 green rats An iguana skeleton (D:9) 2 adder skeletons 10 giant mites 6 worms A grey rat (D:5) 3 giant eyeballs 5 giant geckos An ooze (D:3) 140 orcs 7 giant cockroaches 23 hobgoblins 36 jackals 6 quokkas A ball python (D:2) 18 bats 6 giant newts 2 giant spores (D:10) 23 goblins A jackal skeleton (D:9) 33 kobolds A kobold skeleton (D:5) A kobold zombie (D:5) 2 orc skeletons 2 quokka skeletons 26 rats 2 rat skeletons 14 ballistomycetes (D:10) 4 fungi 5 plants 1081 creatures vanquished. Vanquished Creatures (collateral kills) The ghost of cumgolem the Digger, an average DDEE (D:4) A blink frog (Lair:8) An orc warrior (D:7) A giant goldfish (Lair:8) A water moccasin (Lair:8) An electric eel (Lair:8) A worker ant (D:4) An orc (D:7) A jackal (Lair:8) A fungus (Lair:8) A plant (Lair:8) 11 creatures vanquished. Vanquished Creatures (others) A yak (D:10) A small abomination (Lair:8) A human (D:3) An orc priest (D:9) A worker ant (D:4) An orc wizard (D:12) A jelly (shapeshifter) (D:16) A green rat (Lair:8) A giant centipede (Lair:1) A white imp (D:4) A bat skeleton (D:4) A giant gecko (D:4) An orc (D:12) A hobgoblin (D:6) 2 jackals (Lair:4) A bat (D:4) A giant spore (D:10) 2 kobolds An orc skeleton (D:12) 2 rats 5 arcane familiars A ballistomycete (D:10) 9 fungi 4 plants 42 creatures vanquished. Grand Total: 1134 creatures vanquished Notes Turn | Place | Note -------------------------------------------------------------- 0 | D:1 | prospero, the Spriggan Wizard, began the quest for the Orb. 0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 1. HP: 7/7 MP: 7/7 702 | D:1 | Reached XP level 2. HP: 11/11 MP: 10/10 874 | D:2 | Reached skill level 1 in Conjurations 1528 | D:2 | Reached XP level 3. HP: 15/15 MP: 7/13 2254 | D:3 | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha. 2255 | D:3 | Reached skill level 5 in Spellcasting 2352 | D:3 | Learned a level 2 spell: Blink 2355 | D:3 | Learned a level 2 spell: Call Imp 2359 | D:3 | Learned a level 3 spell: Mephitic Cloud 2363 | D:3 | Learned a level 3 spell: Conjure Flame 2564 | D:3 | Noticed a giant frog 2818 | D:3 | Reached XP level 4. HP: 19/19 MP: 1/17 3027 | D:3 | Learned a level 2 spell: Repel Missiles 3526 | D:3 | Killed a giant frog 3526 | D:3 | Reached XP level 5. HP: 23/23 MP: 11/19 3611 | D:3 | Found a sparkling altar of Nemelex Xobeh. 3688 | D:3 | Noticed a human 3691 | D:3 | Killed a human 3853 | D:3 | Upgraded the game from 0.12-a0-1950-gf7478fd to 0.12-a0-1968-g4ef43cc 3930 | D:4 | Found Burisokh's General Store. 3930 | D:4 | Noticed a phantom 3949 | D:4 | Killed a phantom 3949 | D:4 | Reached XP level 6. HP: 24/27 MP: 3/21 4141 | D:4 | Bought a potion of curing for 20 gold pieces 4141 | D:4 | Bought a scroll of remove curse for 30 gold pieces 4183 | D:4 | Noticed a slave 4184 | D:4 | Noticed Pikel 4185 | D:4 | Noticed a slave 4185 | D:4 | Noticed a slave 4186 | D:4 | Noticed a slave 4262 | D:4 | Noticed cumgolem's ghost (average DDEE) 4562 | D:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon 4820 | D:5 | Noticed Eustachio 5121 | D:5 | Reached skill level 6 in Spellcasting 5387 | D:5 | Killed Eustachio 5387 | D:5 | Reached XP level 7. HP: 30/30 MP: 12/24 5780 | D:5 | Found a burning altar of Makhleb. 6011 | D:5 | Reached skill level 7 in Spellcasting 6262 | D:5 | Reached skill level 5 in Conjurations 6498 | D:5 | Noticed Crazy Yiuf 6506 | D:5 | Killed Crazy Yiuf 6835 | D:6 | Reached XP level 8. HP: 35/35 MP: 18/26 6900 | D:6 | Reached skill level 8 in Spellcasting 7032 | D:6 | Reached skill level 1 in Charms 7032 | D:6 | Reached skill level 1 in Poison Magic 8703 | D:7 | Reached XP level 9. HP: 13/38 MP: 16/29 9232 | D:7 | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging 9248 | D:7 | Reached skill level 9 in Spellcasting 9703 | D:7 | Reached skill level 1 in Fighting 10525 | D:7 | Found a glowing golden altar of the Shining One. 10978 | D:7 | Noticed a moth of wrath 10981 | D:7 | Found a bloodstained altar of Trog. 11187 | D:4 | Killed cumgolem's ghost 11283 | D:4 | Killed a slave 11418 | D:4 | Killed a slave 11428 | D:4 | Killed Pikel 11586 | D:4 | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple. 11600 | Temple | Entered the Ecumenical Temple 11754 | Temple | Became a worshipper of Vehumet 11781 | D:4 | Noticed an ogre 11788 | D:4 | Killed an ogre 12358 | D:8 | Reached XP level 10. HP: 34/44 MP: 1/30 12615 | D:8 | Noticed Erolcha 12616 | D:8 | Upgraded the game from 0.12-a0-1968-g4ef43cc to 0.12-a0-1988-g95baa73 12658 | D:8 | Found a blossoming altar of Fedhas. 12666 | D:8 | Reached skill level 10 in Spellcasting 13016 | D:9 | Found a deep blue altar of Sif Muna. 13138 | D:9 | Found a snail-covered altar of Cheibriados. 13339 | D:9 | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines. 13383 | D:9 | Found Zauts' Assorted Antiques. 13389 | D:9 | Bought a potion of heal wounds for 69 gold pieces 13449 | D:9 | Acquired Vehumet's first power 13449 | D:9 | Offered knowledge of Shock by Vehumet. 13839 | D:9 | Noticed a hill giant 13911 | D:10 | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon 14171 | D:9 | Noticed Blork the orc 14432 | D:10 | Found Chaihaug's Assorted Antiques. 14507 | D:9 | Killed Blork the orc 14764 | D:9 | Learned a level 1 spell: Apportation 14781 | D:9 | Found Vauhabac's Food Emporium. 15148 | D:9 | Killed a hill giant 15148 | D:9 | Offered knowledge of Sandblast by Vehumet. 15596 | D:10 | Upgraded the game from 0.12-a0-1988-g95baa73 to 0.12-a0-2001-gf599d7f 15628 | D:10 | Reached skill level 11 in Spellcasting 15628 | D:10 | Reached skill level 1 in Fire Magic 16045 | D:10 | Found a white marble altar of Elyvilon. 16107 | D:10 | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting 17393 | D:10 | Reached XP level 11. HP: 43/51 MP: 27/32 17583 | D:10 | Reached skill level 10 in Dodging 18294 | D:10 | Reached skill level 12 in Spellcasting 18326 | D:11 | Noticed Erica 18342 | D:11 | Noticed Josephine 18619 | D:12 | Offered knowledge of Static Discharge by Vehumet. 18624 | D:12 | Learned a level 3 spell: Static Discharge 18938 | D:12 | Noticed an unseen horror 18965 | D:12 | Killed an unseen horror 19287 | D:11 | Found Phaprah's Assorted Antiques. 19347 | D:11 | Learned a level 5 spell: Fireball 19365 | D:11 | Noticed an unseen horror 19676 | D:12 | Acquired Vehumet's second power 19882 | D:12 | You fall through a shaft! 19882 | D:15 | Entered Level 15 of the Dungeon 19954 | D:15 | Noticed Sonja 20012 | D:14 | Entered Level 14 of the Dungeon 20556 | D:13 | Noticed a hill giant 20567 | D:13 | Killed a hill giant 21564 | D:11 | Noticed Harold 21892 | D:8 | Reached skill level 13 in Spellcasting 21897 | D:8 | Offered knowledge of Iskenderun's Arcane Familiar by Vehumet. 21903 | D:8 | Learned a level 4 spell: Iskenderun's Arcane Familiar 21910 | D:8 | Learned a level 6 spell: Haste 22112 | D:8 | Noticed an elephant 22115 | D:8 | Noticed an elephant 22153 | D:8 | Killed an elephant 22166 | D:8 | Killed an elephant 22440 | D:8 | Noticed an elephant 22455 | D:8 | Killed an elephant 22565 | D:8 | Found a staircase to the Lair. 22685 | D:8 | Killed Erolcha 22685 | D:8 | Reached XP level 12. HP: 56/56 MP: 27/35 22860 | Lair:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts 22996 | Lair:1 | Upgraded the game from 0.12-a0-2001-gf599d7f to 0.12-a0-2010-gaef24d2 23091 | Lair:1 | Acquired Vehumet's third power 23464 | Lair:1 | Offered knowledge of Venom Bolt by Vehumet. 23790 | Lair:1 | Reached skill level 14 in Spellcasting 24448 | Lair:1 | Found a blossoming altar of Fedhas. 24595 | Lair:1 | Reached skill level 5 in Charms 25614 | Lair:2 | Reached skill level 10 in Conjurations 25625 | Lair:2 | Got a sparkling tin ring 26047 | Temple | Learned a level 6 spell: Poison Arrow 26189 | Lair:3 | Reached skill level 15 in Spellcasting 26526 | Lair:3 | Got a colourful book 26527 | Lair:3 | Identified the Guide on Evil Calling (You found it on level 3 of the Lair of Beasts) 26529 | Lair:3 | Learned a level 1 spell: Summon Butterflies 27109 | Lair:3 | Offered knowledge of Bolt of Fire by Vehumet. 27300 | Temple | Learned a level 6 spell: Bolt of Fire 28342 | Lair:4 | Identified the ring "Psuwn" {rElec rF+ Dex+3 Int+4} (You found it on level 2 of the Lair of Beasts) 29624 | Lair:5 | Noticed a death yak 29630 | Lair:5 | Killed a death yak 29631 | Lair:5 | Noticed a death yak 29702 | Lair:5 | Noticed a death yak 29703 | Lair:5 | Noticed a death yak 29705 | Lair:5 | Noticed a death yak 29715 | Lair:5 | Killed a death yak 29715 | Lair:5 | Reached skill level 16 in Spellcasting 29725 | Lair:5 | Killed a death yak 29725 | Lair:5 | Killed a death yak 29725 | Lair:5 | Reached skill level 5 in Fire Magic 30042 | Lair:5 | Reached XP level 13. HP: 60/60 MP: 37/37 30186 | Lair:5 | Noticed Rupert 30194 | Lair:5 | Killed Rupert 30478 | Lair:5 | You fall through a shaft! 30744 | Lair:6 | Noticed a five-headed hydra 30746 | Lair:6 | Killed a five-headed hydra 30957 | Lair:6 | Offered knowledge of Iskenderun's Mystic Blast by Vehumet. 31129 | Lair:6 | Got a brightly glowing long sword 31130 | Lair:6 | Identified the long sword "Mnitz" {drain, rPois rF+ Str+4 Dex+4 Int-2} (You found it on level 6 of the Lair of Beasts) 31224 | Lair:5 | Killed a death yak 31224 | Lair:5 | Reached skill level 17 in Spellcasting 31224 | Lair:5 | Reached skill level 10 in Charms 31285 | Lair:5 | Noticed a seven-headed hydra 31296 | Lair:5 | Killed a seven-headed hydra 31435 | Lair:5 | Found a staircase to the Shoals. 31700 | D:10 | Bought a scroll of identify for 76 gold pieces 31700 | D:10 | Bought a scroll of enchant armour for 209 gold pieces 33306 | Lair:6 | Found a hole to the Spider Nest. 33328 | Lair:6 | Noticed a four-headed hydra 33337 | Lair:6 | Killed a four-headed hydra 34355 | Lair:8 | Entered Level 8 of the Lair of Beasts 34355 | Lair:8 | Found a viscous altar of Jiyva. 34355 | Lair:8 | Found a staircase to the Slime Pits. 34379 | Lair:7 | Reached skill level 18 in Spellcasting 34740 | Lair:7 | Offered knowledge of Ignite Poison by Vehumet. 34921 | Lair:7 | Identified a +0 rod of destruction [fire] (14/14) (You found it on level 7 of the Lair of Beasts) 35800 | Lair:8 | Reached XP level 14. HP: 65/65 MP: 23/39 37169 | Lair:8 | Offered knowledge of Delayed Fireball by Vehumet. 37579 | Lair:8 | Got a slimy robe 37589 | Lair:8 | Identified the +2 robe of Lilacs {rElec rC+} (You found it on level 8 of the Lair of Beasts) 37908 | Orc:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Orcish Mines 38365 | Orc:2 | Found Tisienti's Armour Emporium. 38377 | Orc:2 | Bought a +0 elven buckler for 56 gold pieces 38563 | Orc:3 | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh. 38896 | Orc:2 | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh. 38904 | Orc:2 | Offered knowledge of Bolt of Draining by Vehumet. 39501 | Orc:2 | Reached skill level 1 in Shields 39873 | Orc:4 | Entered Level 4 of the Orcish Mines 39873 | Orc:4 | Noticed Saint Roka 39982 | D:11 | Killed Erica 40364 | D:11 | Killed Josephine 40616 | D:11 | Noticed Psyche 40618 | D:11 | Killed Psyche 40728 | D:11 | Reached skill level 10 in Fire Magic 40747 | D:11 | Killed Harold 40747 | D:11 | Offered knowledge of Iron Shot by Vehumet. 40884 | D:11 | Killed an unseen horror 43024 | D:14 | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 3 turns 43090 | D:14 | Noticed a four-headed hydra 43098 | D:14 | Killed a four-headed hydra 43098 | D:14 | Reached skill level 1 in Traps 43482 | D:14 | Noticed a hill giant 43691 | D:14 | Killed a hill giant 43870 | D:14 | Noticed a four-headed hydra 43872 | D:14 | Killed a four-headed hydra 43982 | D:14 | Reached XP level 15. HP: 56/69 MP: 34/40 44027 | D:14 | Offered knowledge of Delayed Fireball by Vehumet. 44852 | D:4 | Bought a cursed +0 cloak for 21 gold pieces 44852 | D:4 | Bought a scroll of identify for 20 gold pieces 44852 | D:4 | Bought a scroll of identify for 20 gold pieces 44852 | D:4 | Bought an uncursed amulet of clarity for 200 gold pieces 44854 | D:4 | Gained mutation: Your mind is acute (Int +1). [potion of gain intelligence] 45450 | D:15 | Noticed an eight-headed hydra 45452 | D:15 | Killed an eight-headed hydra 45608 | D:15 | Killed Sonja 45609 | D:15 | Noticed a six-headed hydra 45620 | D:15 | Killed a six-headed hydra 47364 | D:16 | Found a portal to a secret trove of treasure. 47450 | D:16 | Noticed Maud 47650 | D:16 | Killed Maud 48219 | D:16 | Found a staircase to the Vaults.

Saturday, 2nd February 2013, 08:29 by hxy

1) What should I be training? Right now I'm dumping endless xp into Conjuration and Fire, which takes forever on a spriggan. But I'm hoping to do extended, so I gotta train those skills sooner or later.

Conj & Fire - get Firestorm online.

2) Is it worth wielding this sword?
the +3,+4 long sword "Mnitz" {drain, rPois rF+ Str+4 Dex+4 Int-2}
Long swords are two handed for spriggans, so I couldn't wear my buckler. Yes, that is Int-2.

Not unless you need the rPois (situational).
As a blaster you should be looking for booster staves to hold.

3) +5 ring of protection or +3 ring of evasion?

Protection, until you find something better.

4) Is this cloak worth anything:
the cursed -2 cloak "Lijeav" {Dex+3 Int+2} (275 gold)

No.

5) What branch should I do? I've done lair, and orc except for orc 4. Saint Roka is on orc 4 with a large pack, and I'm feeling too squishy to mess with him. Spider seems pointless. Shoals or Vaults then?

I'd suggest you leave Shoals until you find Flight. More D or Vaults should be ok (leave bottom of Vaults for later).

Saturday, 2nd February 2013, 20:19 by prospero14

I cleared out Vaults:1-4. No change in the character, really. Firestorm is still a ways away. Don't have fly yet for shoals, don't have deflect missile, and I'm not sure I want to take on Roka and orc 4 yet. I guess I'll try some more D and hope repel missiles is enough for the yaktaurs and stone giants?

Code:: Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.12-a0-2010-gaef24d2 (console) character file. prospero the Eclecticist (Spriggan Wizard) Turns: 65711, Time: 05:48:01 HP 82/82 AC 15 Str 4 XL: 18 Next: 23% MP 42/42 EV 25 Int 31 God: Vehumet [******] Gold 2210 SH 13 Dex 18 Spells: 12 memorised, 12 levels left Res.Fire : + . . See Invis. : + D - sabre (protect) Res.Cold : + . . Warding : . s - +2 robe of Lilacs {rElec rC+} Life Prot.: . . . Conserve : . o - +0 elf buckler Res.Poison: . Res.Corr. : . b - +0 wizard hat Res.Elec. : + Clarity : + n - +0 cloak Sust.Abil.: . . Spirit.Shd : . (gloves unavailable) Res.Mut. : . Stasis : . (boots unavailable) Res.Rott. : . Ctrl.Telep.: . x - amulet of clarity Saprovore : . . . Flight : . q - ring "Psuwn" {rElec rF+ Dex+3 Int+4} G - +5 ring of protection @: very quick, extremely resistant to hostile enchantments, stealthy A: unfitting armour, see invisible, herbivore 3, speed 3, slow metabolism 2, Int +1 a: Renounce Religion You are on level 4 of the Vaults. You worship Vehumet. Vehumet is exalted by your worship. You are not hungry. You have visited 5 branches of the dungeon, and seen 34 of its levels. You have collected 2911 gold pieces. You have spent 721 gold pieces at shops. Inventory: Hand weapons D - an uncursed sabre of protection (weapon) Armour b - a +0 wizard hat (worn) n - a +0 cloak (worn) o - a +0 elven buckler (worn) s - the +2 robe of Lilacs (worn) {rElec rC+} (You found it on level 8 of the Lair of Beasts) It protects you from cold. It insulates you from electricity. Magical devices f - a wand of cold (2) g - a wand of hasting {zapped: 1} v - a wand of polymorph other {zapped: 2} y - a wand of digging {zapped: 3} F - a wand of fire {zapped: 5} Comestibles m - 2 bread rations t - a pear Scrolls a - 3 scrolls of blinking c - a scroll of fear d - 2 scrolls of identify h - 2 scrolls of remove curse l - a scroll of teleportation H - 2 scrolls of fog Jewellery i - an uncursed amulet of resist mutation q - the ring "Psuwn" (right hand) {rElec rF+ Dex+3 Int+4} (You found it on level 2 of the Lair of Beasts) [ring of protection from fire] It affects your intelligence (+4). It affects your dexterity (+3). It insulates you from electricity. x - an amulet of clarity (around neck) G - a +5 ring of protection (left hand) Potions e - a potion of speed j - a potion of restore abilities r - a potion of invisibility u - 3 potions of might w - 2 potions of curing z - 2 potions of flight B - a potion of brilliance C - 2 potions of resistance E - 3 potions of heal wounds Skills: - Level 6.2 Fighting - Level 10.0 Dodging - Level 3.0 Stealth - Level 1.9 Shields - Level 3.0 Traps - Level 18.4 Spellcasting + Level 16.3 Conjurations - Level 10.2 Charms - Level 0.7 Summonings - Level 1.5 Translocations + Level 15.4 Fire Magic - Level 2.1 Poison Magic You have 12 spell levels left. You know the following spells: Your Spells Type Power Failure Level Hunger a - Bolt of Fire Conj/Fire ########.. 1% 6 None b - Blink Tloc N/A 1% 2 None c - Call Imp Summ #####..... 1% 2 None d - Mephitic Cloud Conj/Pois/Air #######.. 1% 3 None e - Conjure Flame Conj/Fire ########. 0% 3 None f - Repel Missiles Chrm/Air #######... 1% 2 None g - Magic Dart Conj ##### 0% 1 None i - Fireball Conj/Fire ########.. 1% 5 None j - Iskenderun's Arcane Conj/Chrm ########. 1% 4 None k - Haste Chrm #######.. 3% 6 None l - Poison Arrow Conj/Pois #######... 1% 6 None m - Summon Butterflies Summ #####.... 1% 1 None Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations Branches: Dungeon (17/27) Temple (1/1) D:4 Orc (4/4) D:9 Lair (8/8) D:8 Shoals (0/5) Lair:5 Spider (0/5) Lair:6 Slime (0/6) Lair:8 Vaults (4/5) D:16 Blade (0/1) Vaults:3 Crypt (0/5) Vaults:2 Elf: Orc:3-4 Altars: Ashenzari Cheibriados Elyvilon Fedhas Kikubaaqudgha Makhleb Nemelex Xobeh Okawaru Sif Muna Trog Vehumet Xom Yredelemnul Zin the Shining One Beogh Jiyva Shops: D:4: * D:9: %* D:10: * D:11: * Orc:2: [ Portals: Trove: D:16 (give +4 ice dragon armour) Annotations D:13 exclusion: oklob plant Orc:4 Saint Roka Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations You are tiny and cannot use many weapons and most armour. You have supernaturally acute eyesight. You are a herbivore. You cover ground extremely quickly. You need consume almost no food. Your mind is acute (Int +1). Message History Vehumet accepts your kill. You feel your power returning. You start resting. Your repel missiles spell is about to expire... You start resting. You feel less protected from missiles. You start resting. Magic restored. This spell is very dangerous to cast! Memorise Shatter, consuming 9 spell levels and leaving 3? Okay, then. Search for what [Enter for "spells", or ? for help]? Wield which item (- for none, * to show all)? (? for menu, Esc to quit) You feel less protected. You are now empty-handed. Wear which item? (? for menu, Esc to quit) Okay, then. Wield which item (- for none, * to show all)? (? for menu, Esc to quit) You feel protected! D - an uncursed sabre of protection (weapon) Done exploring. #######'####<....%.'.....# #.. # #.......##.[).[#'####### ### # #.......##.....#.......# #.. #.......##.....#.......# ### #.......##..[..#.......# #.. #.......##.....#.......# #.. #.......##.....#.......# ### ######'#########'##############.. ..............................##' ..............................#.. ................@........<....#%. ..............[.......[.......#.. ..............................'.. ...........................)..### ############################### There are no monsters in sight! Vanquished Creatures A lich (Vaults:4) Rupert (Lair:5) Aizul (Vaults:1) A frost giant (Vaults:4) Louise (Vaults:1) Maud (D:16) 4 stone giants A fire giant (Vaults:1) A storm dragon zombie (Vaults:3) 2 great orbs of eyes 10 yaktaur captains Erica (D:11) Harold (D:11) Josephine (D:11) 7 hydras 2 dancing weapons (Vaults:3) An ice dragon (Vaults:3) 5 ogre magi 2 wolf spider zombies A fire giant zombie (Vaults:3) 3 very ugly things (Vaults:4) A shadow dragon skeleton (Vaults:4) 2 deep trolls (Vaults:1) A stone giant zombie (Vaults:1) A sphinx skeleton (Vaults:3) 12 death yaks A rakshasa (Vaults:1) 17 centaur warriors 2 fire giant skeletons 6 stone giant skeletons Erolcha (D:8) 2 iron trolls (Vaults:4) 2 deep elf knights (Vaults:4) A skeletal warrior (Vaults:2) A giant orange brain (Vaults:4) 3 unseen horrors A naga warrior (Vaults:3) 2 wizards An iron troll zombie (Vaults:2) Pikel (D:4) A crystal golem (Vaults:3) 2 giant amoebae (Vaults:4) A necromancer (Vaults:4) 4 hill giants 8 orc knights 5 griffons An iron troll skeleton (Vaults:4) A lindwurm (D:15) A harpy zombie (D:13) A shining eye (shapeshifter) (Vaults:3) 5 spiny worms 3 wolf spiders A harpy (Vaults:1) A red wasp (Vaults:2) 5 cyclopes An elephant slug (Lair:6) A griffon zombie (D:10) An ettin zombie (Vaults:2) A dragon skeleton (Vaults:1) A dragon zombie (D:15) 20 elephants 6 black mambas An ettin skeleton (Vaults:4) A spiny frog (shapeshifter) (Vaults:2) A hill giant zombie (D:15) 33 slime creatures An ice dragon skeleton (Vaults:1) A queen ant (D:13) Psyche (D:11) 21 yaktaurs 7 rock trolls 16 spiny frogs 6 komodo dragons A hill giant skeleton (Vaults:1) 46 ugly things A troll (shapeshifter) (Vaults:3) Sonja (D:15) 7 trolls A wandering mushroom (D:16) 2 rock troll zombies (Vaults:1) 8 blink frogs 10 two-headed ogres A blink frog (shapeshifter) (Vaults:3) 2 rock troll skeletons A grizzly bear (Lair:8) 3 basilisks 7 hippogriffs A hungry ghost (D:10) 2 wraiths An air elemental (Vaults:2) 6 wyverns 34 yaks 2 steam dragons Eustachio (D:5) A fire drake (Lair:6) 10 war dogs 2 blink frog skeletons A merfolk (D:7) 4 vampire mosquitoes (Vaults:1) A trapdoor spider (D:14) 3 rock worms 2 deep elf fighters (Vaults:4) 2 necrophages (D:11) A yaktaur zombie (D:12) A mottled dragon (D:16) 2 hell hounds (Lair:8) 3 manticores 4 boulder beetles 7 soldier ants (D:13) A fire drake (shapeshifter) (Vaults:4) 27 orc warriors 2 slaves (D:4) 6 freezing wraiths A manticore skeleton (D:11) 6 sky beasts 8 ice beasts A deep elf priest (Vaults:3) 3 phantoms 2 troll zombies 2 swamp drakes (Lair:6) 27 ogres 6 giant goldfish A yellow wasp (shapeshifter) (D:16) A yellow wasp (D:12) 18 centaurs 14 crocodiles 9 wargs 6 nagas (Vaults:3) 8 giant slugs 6 wolves 17 big kobolds 3 agate snails 2 basilisk zombies 13 water moccasins Blork the orc (D:9) 17 giant frogs 2 water moccasin skeletons (Vaults:4) 5 basilisk skeletons 14 killer bees 2 eyes of draining 7 wights A killer bee zombie (D:9) 13 electric eels 3 goliath beetles 16 jellyfish 3 shadows 6 crimson imps 3 quasits 2 big kobold skeletons 20 hounds 2 big kobold zombies (D:13) A brain worm zombie (D:13) A mottled dragon zombie (D:13) 7 big fish 8 spiders (Lair:6) Crazy Yiuf (D:5) 25 orc priests A hound skeleton (D:11) 27 orc wizards 8 scorpions A deep elf soldier (Vaults:4) 7 iguanas 2 worker ant zombies 7 sheep 27 worker ants 10 porcupines A worm zombie (D:6) 5 jellies A goliath beetle zombie (D:14) A mummy (D:13) 12 gnolls An iguana zombie (D:9) 20 adders 6 giant centipedes 55 green rats An iguana skeleton (D:9) 2 adder skeletons 10 giant mites 6 worms A grey rat (D:5) 3 giant eyeballs 6 giant geckos An ooze (D:3) 148 orcs 7 giant cockroaches 23 hobgoblins 36 jackals 6 quokkas A ball python (D:2) 18 bats 6 giant newts 2 giant spores (D:10) 23 goblins 2 illusory rakshasas (Vaults:1) A jackal skeleton (D:9) 33 kobolds A kobold skeleton (D:5) A kobold zombie (D:5) 2 orc skeletons 2 quokka skeletons 26 rats 2 rat skeletons 14 ballistomycetes (D:10) 4 fungi 5 plants 1383 creatures vanquished. Vanquished Creatures (collateral kills) The ghost of cumgolem the Digger, an average DDEE (D:4) A blink frog (Lair:8) An orc warrior (D:7) A giant goldfish (Lair:8) A water moccasin (Lair:8) An electric eel (Lair:8) A worker ant (D:4) An orc (D:7) A jackal (Lair:8) A fungus (Lair:8) A plant (Lair:8) 11 creatures vanquished. Vanquished Creatures (others) A yak (D:10) A small abomination (Lair:8) A human (D:3) A warg (Vaults:4) An orc priest (D:9) A worker ant (D:4) An orc wizard (D:12) A jelly (shapeshifter) (D:16) A green rat (Lair:8) A giant centipede (Lair:1) A white imp (D:4) A bat skeleton (D:4) A giant gecko (D:4) An orc (D:12) A hobgoblin (D:6) 2 jackals (Lair:4) A bat (D:4) A giant spore (D:10) 2 kobolds An orc skeleton (D:12) 2 rats 5 arcane familiars A ballistomycete (D:10) 3 butterflies (Vaults:1) 9 fungi 4 plants 46 creatures vanquished. Grand Total: 1440 creatures vanquished Notes Turn | Place | Note -------------------------------------------------------------- 0 | D:1 | prospero, the Spriggan Wizard, began the quest for the Orb. 0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 1. HP: 7/7 MP: 7/7 702 | D:1 | Reached XP level 2. HP: 11/11 MP: 10/10 874 | D:2 | Reached skill level 1 in Conjurations 1528 | D:2 | Reached XP level 3. HP: 15/15 MP: 7/13 2254 | D:3 | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha. 2255 | D:3 | Reached skill level 5 in Spellcasting 2352 | D:3 | Learned a level 2 spell: Blink 2355 | D:3 | Learned a level 2 spell: Call Imp 2359 | D:3 | Learned a level 3 spell: Mephitic Cloud 2363 | D:3 | Learned a level 3 spell: Conjure Flame 2564 | D:3 | Noticed a giant frog 2818 | D:3 | Reached XP level 4. HP: 19/19 MP: 1/17 3027 | D:3 | Learned a level 2 spell: Repel Missiles 3526 | D:3 | Killed a giant frog 3526 | D:3 | Reached XP level 5. HP: 23/23 MP: 11/19 3611 | D:3 | Found a sparkling altar of Nemelex Xobeh. 3688 | D:3 | Noticed a human 3691 | D:3 | Killed a human 3853 | D:3 | Upgraded the game from 0.12-a0-1950-gf7478fd to 0.12-a0-1968-g4ef43cc 3930 | D:4 | Found Burisokh's General Store. 3930 | D:4 | Noticed a phantom 3949 | D:4 | Killed a phantom 3949 | D:4 | Reached XP level 6. HP: 24/27 MP: 3/21 4141 | D:4 | Bought a potion of curing for 20 gold pieces 4141 | D:4 | Bought a scroll of remove curse for 30 gold pieces 4183 | D:4 | Noticed a slave 4184 | D:4 | Noticed Pikel 4185 | D:4 | Noticed a slave 4185 | D:4 | Noticed a slave 4186 | D:4 | Noticed a slave 4262 | D:4 | Noticed cumgolem's ghost (average DDEE) 4562 | D:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon 4820 | D:5 | Noticed Eustachio 5121 | D:5 | Reached skill level 6 in Spellcasting 5387 | D:5 | Killed Eustachio 5387 | D:5 | Reached XP level 7. HP: 30/30 MP: 12/24 5780 | D:5 | Found a burning altar of Makhleb. 6011 | D:5 | Reached skill level 7 in Spellcasting 6262 | D:5 | Reached skill level 5 in Conjurations 6498 | D:5 | Noticed Crazy Yiuf 6506 | D:5 | Killed Crazy Yiuf 6835 | D:6 | Reached XP level 8. HP: 35/35 MP: 18/26 6900 | D:6 | Reached skill level 8 in Spellcasting 7032 | D:6 | Reached skill level 1 in Charms 7032 | D:6 | Reached skill level 1 in Poison Magic 8703 | D:7 | Reached XP level 9. HP: 13/38 MP: 16/29 9232 | D:7 | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging 9248 | D:7 | Reached skill level 9 in Spellcasting 9703 | D:7 | Reached skill level 1 in Fighting 10525 | D:7 | Found a glowing golden altar of the Shining One. 10978 | D:7 | Noticed a moth of wrath 10981 | D:7 | Found a bloodstained altar of Trog. 11187 | D:4 | Killed cumgolem's ghost 11283 | D:4 | Killed a slave 11418 | D:4 | Killed a slave 11428 | D:4 | Killed Pikel 11586 | D:4 | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple. 11600 | Temple | Entered the Ecumenical Temple 11754 | Temple | Became a worshipper of Vehumet 11781 | D:4 | Noticed an ogre 11788 | D:4 | Killed an ogre 12358 | D:8 | Reached XP level 10. HP: 34/44 MP: 1/30 12615 | D:8 | Noticed Erolcha 12616 | D:8 | Upgraded the game from 0.12-a0-1968-g4ef43cc to 0.12-a0-1988-g95baa73 12658 | D:8 | Found a blossoming altar of Fedhas. 12666 | D:8 | Reached skill level 10 in Spellcasting 13016 | D:9 | Found a deep blue altar of Sif Muna. 13138 | D:9 | Found a snail-covered altar of Cheibriados. 13339 | D:9 | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines. 13383 | D:9 | Found Zauts' Assorted Antiques. 13389 | D:9 | Bought a potion of heal wounds for 69 gold pieces 13449 | D:9 | Acquired Vehumet's first power 13449 | D:9 | Offered knowledge of Shock by Vehumet. 13839 | D:9 | Noticed a hill giant 13911 | D:10 | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon 14171 | D:9 | Noticed Blork the orc 14432 | D:10 | Found Chaihaug's Assorted Antiques. 14507 | D:9 | Killed Blork the orc 14764 | D:9 | Learned a level 1 spell: Apportation 14781 | D:9 | Found Vauhabac's Food Emporium. 15148 | D:9 | Killed a hill giant 15148 | D:9 | Offered knowledge of Sandblast by Vehumet. 15596 | D:10 | Upgraded the game from 0.12-a0-1988-g95baa73 to 0.12-a0-2001-gf599d7f 15628 | D:10 | Reached skill level 11 in Spellcasting 15628 | D:10 | Reached skill level 1 in Fire Magic 16045 | D:10 | Found a white marble altar of Elyvilon. 16107 | D:10 | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting 17393 | D:10 | Reached XP level 11. HP: 43/51 MP: 27/32 17583 | D:10 | Reached skill level 10 in Dodging 18294 | D:10 | Reached skill level 12 in Spellcasting 18326 | D:11 | Noticed Erica 18342 | D:11 | Noticed Josephine 18619 | D:12 | Offered knowledge of Static Discharge by Vehumet. 18624 | D:12 | Learned a level 3 spell: Static Discharge 18938 | D:12 | Noticed an unseen horror 18965 | D:12 | Killed an unseen horror 19287 | D:11 | Found Phaprah's Assorted Antiques. 19347 | D:11 | Learned a level 5 spell: Fireball 19365 | D:11 | Noticed an unseen horror 19676 | D:12 | Acquired Vehumet's second power 19882 | D:12 | You fall through a shaft! 19882 | D:15 | Entered Level 15 of the Dungeon 19954 | D:15 | Noticed Sonja 20012 | D:14 | Entered Level 14 of the Dungeon 20556 | D:13 | Noticed a hill giant 20567 | D:13 | Killed a hill giant 21564 | D:11 | Noticed Harold 21892 | D:8 | Reached skill level 13 in Spellcasting 21897 | D:8 | Offered knowledge of Iskenderun's Arcane Familiar by Vehumet. 21903 | D:8 | Learned a level 4 spell: Iskenderun's Arcane Familiar 21910 | D:8 | Learned a level 6 spell: Haste 22112 | D:8 | Noticed an elephant 22115 | D:8 | Noticed an elephant 22153 | D:8 | Killed an elephant 22166 | D:8 | Killed an elephant 22440 | D:8 | Noticed an elephant 22455 | D:8 | Killed an elephant 22565 | D:8 | Found a staircase to the Lair. 22685 | D:8 | Killed Erolcha 22685 | D:8 | Reached XP level 12. HP: 56/56 MP: 27/35 22860 | Lair:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts 22996 | Lair:1 | Upgraded the game from 0.12-a0-2001-gf599d7f to 0.12-a0-2010-gaef24d2 23091 | Lair:1 | Acquired Vehumet's third power 23464 | Lair:1 | Offered knowledge of Venom Bolt by Vehumet. 23790 | Lair:1 | Reached skill level 14 in Spellcasting 24448 | Lair:1 | Found a blossoming altar of Fedhas. 24595 | Lair:1 | Reached skill level 5 in Charms 25614 | Lair:2 | Reached skill level 10 in Conjurations 25625 | Lair:2 | Got a sparkling tin ring 26047 | Temple | Learned a level 6 spell: Poison Arrow 26189 | Lair:3 | Reached skill level 15 in Spellcasting 26526 | Lair:3 | Got a colourful book 26527 | Lair:3 | Identified the Guide on Evil Calling (You found it on level 3 of the Lair of Beasts) 26529 | Lair:3 | Learned a level 1 spell: Summon Butterflies 27109 | Lair:3 | Offered knowledge of Bolt of Fire by Vehumet. 27300 | Temple | Learned a level 6 spell: Bolt of Fire 28342 | Lair:4 | Identified the ring "Psuwn" {rElec rF+ Dex+3 Int+4} (You found it on level 2 of the Lair of Beasts) 29624 | Lair:5 | Noticed a death yak 29630 | Lair:5 | Killed a death yak 29631 | Lair:5 | Noticed a death yak 29702 | Lair:5 | Noticed a death yak 29703 | Lair:5 | Noticed a death yak 29705 | Lair:5 | Noticed a death yak 29715 | Lair:5 | Killed a death yak 29715 | Lair:5 | Reached skill level 16 in Spellcasting 29725 | Lair:5 | Killed a death yak 29725 | Lair:5 | Killed a death yak 29725 | Lair:5 | Reached skill level 5 in Fire Magic 30042 | Lair:5 | Reached XP level 13. HP: 60/60 MP: 37/37 30186 | Lair:5 | Noticed Rupert 30194 | Lair:5 | Killed Rupert 30478 | Lair:5 | You fall through a shaft! 30744 | Lair:6 | Noticed a five-headed hydra 30746 | Lair:6 | Killed a five-headed hydra 30957 | Lair:6 | Offered knowledge of Iskenderun's Mystic Blast by Vehumet. 31129 | Lair:6 | Got a brightly glowing long sword 31130 | Lair:6 | Identified the long sword "Mnitz" {drain, rPois rF+ Str+4 Dex+4 Int-2} (You found it on level 6 of the Lair of Beasts) 31224 | Lair:5 | Killed a death yak 31224 | Lair:5 | Reached skill level 17 in Spellcasting 31224 | Lair:5 | Reached skill level 10 in Charms 31285 | Lair:5 | Noticed a seven-headed hydra 31296 | Lair:5 | Killed a seven-headed hydra 31435 | Lair:5 | Found a staircase to the Shoals. 31700 | D:10 | Bought a scroll of identify for 76 gold pieces 31700 | D:10 | Bought a scroll of enchant armour for 209 gold pieces 33306 | Lair:6 | Found a hole to the Spider Nest. 33328 | Lair:6 | Noticed a four-headed hydra 33337 | Lair:6 | Killed a four-headed hydra 34355 | Lair:8 | Entered Level 8 of the Lair of Beasts 34355 | Lair:8 | Found a viscous altar of Jiyva. 34355 | Lair:8 | Found a staircase to the Slime Pits. 34379 | Lair:7 | Reached skill level 18 in Spellcasting 34740 | Lair:7 | Offered knowledge of Ignite Poison by Vehumet. 34921 | Lair:7 | Identified a +0 rod of destruction [fire] (14/14) (You found it on level 7 of the Lair of Beasts) 35800 | Lair:8 | Reached XP level 14. HP: 65/65 MP: 23/39 37169 | Lair:8 | Offered knowledge of Delayed Fireball by Vehumet. 37579 | Lair:8 | Got a slimy robe 37589 | Lair:8 | Identified the +2 robe of Lilacs {rElec rC+} (You found it on level 8 of the Lair of Beasts) 37908 | Orc:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Orcish Mines 38365 | Orc:2 | Found Tisienti's Armour Emporium. 38377 | Orc:2 | Bought a +0 elven buckler for 56 gold pieces 38563 | Orc:3 | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh. 38896 | Orc:2 | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh. 38904 | Orc:2 | Offered knowledge of Bolt of Draining by Vehumet. 39501 | Orc:2 | Reached skill level 1 in Shields 39873 | Orc:4 | Entered Level 4 of the Orcish Mines 39873 | Orc:4 | Noticed Saint Roka 39982 | D:11 | Killed Erica 40364 | D:11 | Killed Josephine 40616 | D:11 | Noticed Psyche 40618 | D:11 | Killed Psyche 40728 | D:11 | Reached skill level 10 in Fire Magic 40747 | D:11 | Killed Harold 40747 | D:11 | Offered knowledge of Iron Shot by Vehumet. 40884 | D:11 | Killed an unseen horror 43024 | D:14 | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 3 turns 43090 | D:14 | Noticed a four-headed hydra 43098 | D:14 | Killed a four-headed hydra 43098 | D:14 | Reached skill level 1 in Traps 43482 | D:14 | Noticed a hill giant 43691 | D:14 | Killed a hill giant 43870 | D:14 | Noticed a four-headed hydra 43872 | D:14 | Killed a four-headed hydra 43982 | D:14 | Reached XP level 15. HP: 56/69 MP: 34/40 44027 | D:14 | Offered knowledge of Delayed Fireball by Vehumet. 44852 | D:4 | Bought a cursed +0 cloak for 21 gold pieces 44852 | D:4 | Bought a scroll of identify for 20 gold pieces 44852 | D:4 | Bought a scroll of identify for 20 gold pieces 44852 | D:4 | Bought an uncursed amulet of clarity for 200 gold pieces 44854 | D:4 | Gained mutation: Your mind is acute (Int +1). [potion of gain intelligence] 45450 | D:15 | Noticed an eight-headed hydra 45452 | D:15 | Killed an eight-headed hydra 45608 | D:15 | Killed Sonja 45609 | D:15 | Noticed a six-headed hydra 45620 | D:15 | Killed a six-headed hydra 47364 | D:16 | Found a portal to a secret trove of treasure. 47450 | D:16 | Noticed Maud 47650 | D:16 | Killed Maud 48219 | D:16 | Found a staircase to the Vaults. 50145 | Vaults:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Vaults 50495 | Vaults:1 | Offered knowledge of Conjure Ball Lightning by Vehumet. 51058 | Vaults:1 | Noticed Aizul 51067 | Vaults:1 | Killed Aizul 52151 | Vaults:1 | Reached XP level 16. HP: 74/74 MP: 38/41 52543 | Vaults:1 | Noticed a fire giant 52557 | Vaults:1 | Killed a fire giant 52726 | Vaults:1 | Noticed a stone giant 52729 | Vaults:1 | Killed a stone giant 52872 | Vaults:1 | Got a warped morningstar 52876 | Vaults:1 | Identified the morningstar of Victory {venom, *Rage Dex+3} (You found it on level 1 of the Vaults) 53028 | Vaults:1 | Noticed Louise 53031 | Vaults:1 | Killed Louise 55767 | Vaults:2 | Offered knowledge of Tornado by Vehumet. 55801 | Vaults:2 | Found a staircase to the Crypt. 55966 | Vaults:2 | Reached skill level 15 in Conjurations 56583 | Vaults:3 | Got an ichor-stained buckler 56589 | Vaults:3 | Identified the cursed -2 buckler of Trumpets {rF+} (You found it on level 3 of the Vaults) 56619 | Vaults:3 | Found a staircase to the Hall of Blades. 57541 | Vaults:3 | Reached XP level 17. HP: 78/78 MP: 26/42 60590 | Vaults:4 | Noticed a lich 60597 | Vaults:4 | Killed a lich 63104 | Vaults:4 | Reached skill level 15 in Fire Magic 63494 | Vaults:4 | Offered knowledge of Shatter by Vehumet. 63695 | Vaults:4 | Reached XP level 18. HP: 77/82 MP: 15/42

Saturday, 2nd February 2013, 21:11 by byrel

It is. Deflect missiles is nice but completely unneccesary. Particularly with a spriggan's excellent dodging potential. Speaking if which, I'd consider training it a bit farther (~EV30) before focusing on fire storm. Fire storm is nice, but it won't help you for a while.

I would carry on in the dungeon.

Saturday, 2nd February 2013, 21:13 by prospero14

Cleared orc 4. Saint Roka was a bit dangerous, but I could bolt of fire him faster than he could smite me. His pack actually helped, because they kept him from standing next to me.

For my pains, I got this ring in the Orc:4 shops:
k - the ring of Gatev (left hand) {Hunger- rF+ rC++}
Pretty great ring, no? Hunger- is useless to me, but still.

Saturday, 2nd February 2013, 21:17 by prospero14

And speaking of artifacts, what about this:

the -2 buckler of Trumpets {rF+}

Is -2 SV worth a free pip of fire resistance? Note that I already have 2 pips of rF from my rings.

Saturday, 2nd February 2013, 21:22 by byrel

I don't think you should plan on using a buckler long term anyhow; enhancer staves are two handed on spriggans.

But I would think it is, at least as a swap for Zot/Gehenna. In D, it probably would be better to use a normal buckler.

Sunday, 3rd February 2013, 19:58 by prospero14

I have to admit, this one felt a little unfair.

D:24 was mostly a giant castle. As a vault it was lots of fun: full of giants, titans, and so forth. There were a bunch of butterflies in the main room than got in the way, and the geography was very interesting: lots of nooks and crannies.

An inner room had green crystal walls. And Jorgrun. See where this is going? He cast shatter on the walls, and took me from 100hp to 13hp in one action. I drank a potion of healing. He killed me.

So I lots a promising character because I didn't realize a unique was going to be able to make walls explode. It kind of sucks.

(Looking at the morgue, I see that the yaktaur captain -- the other monster in LOS -- also hit me with a bolt. That's a known risk: sometimes yaktaur bolts get past repel missiles and do around 20 damage. That makes the death feel slightly less unfair. Slightly.)

Code:: Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.12-a0-2039-g40c6173 (console) character file. 334335 prospero the Destroyer (level 22, -48/100 HPs) Began as a Spriggan Wizard on Jan 29, 2013. Was the Champion of Vehumet. Killed from afar by Jorgrun (51 damage) ... with a blast of crystal shards ... on Level 24 of the Dungeon on Feb 3, 2013. The game lasted 08:19:42 (100015 turns). prospero the Destroyer (Spriggan Wizard) Turns: 100015, Time: 08:19:42 HP -48/100 AC 12 Str 4 XL: 22 Next: 44% MP 23/45 EV 29 Int 33 God: Vehumet [******] Gold 2874 SH 13 Dex 18 Spells: 16 memorised, 1 level left Res.Fire : + + + See Invis. : + D - +1,+2 sabre (protect) Res.Cold : + + + Warding : . b - +2 robe {rC+ rF+} Life Prot.: . . . Conserve : . i - +0 elf buckler Res.Poison: . Res.Corr. : . p - +2 wizard hat Res.Elec. : + Clarity : + n - +0 cloak Sust.Abil.: . . Spirit.Shd : . (gloves unavailable) Res.Mut. : . Stasis : . (boots unavailable) Res.Rott. : . Ctrl.Telep.: . x - amulet of clarity Saprovore : . . . Flight : . q - ring "Psuwn" {rElec rF+ Dex+3 Int+4} k - ring of Gatev {Hunger- rF+ rC++} @: repel missiles, very quick, extraordinarily resistant to hostile enchantments, stealthy A: unfitting armour, see invisible, herbivore 3, speed 3, slow metabolism 2, Int +1 a: Renounce Religion You were on level 24 of the Dungeon. You worshipped Vehumet. Vehumet was exalted by your worship. You were full. You visited 6 branches of the dungeon, and saw 46 of its levels. You collected 4734 gold pieces. You spent 1880 gold pieces at shops. Inventory: Hand weapons D - a +1,+2 sabre of protection (weapon) Armour b - a +2 robe of resistance (worn) i - a +0 elven buckler (worn) n - a +0 cloak (worn) p - a +2 wizard hat (worn) Magical devices d - a wand of heal wounds (1) g - a wand of hasting (5) o - a wand of heal wounds (5) y - a wand of digging (9) F - a wand of fire (0) G - a wand of polymorph other (7) Comestibles m - a bread ration Scrolls a - 2 scrolls of blinking c - 2 scrolls of fear h - 3 scrolls of remove curse s - 2 scrolls of identify H - 2 scrolls of fog J - 2 scrolls of magic mapping Jewellery e - an uncursed ring of sustain abilities k - the ring of Gatev (left hand) {Hunger- rF+ rC++} (You bought it in a shop on level 4 of the Orcish Mines) [ring of sustenance] It protects you from fire. It greatly protects you from cold. q - the ring "Psuwn" (right hand) {rElec rF+ Dex+3 Int+4} (You found it on level 2 of the Lair of Beasts) [ring of protection from fire] It affects your intelligence (+4). It affects your dexterity (+3). It insulates you from electricity. x - an amulet of clarity (around neck) A - an uncursed ring of flight Potions j - 2 potions of restore abilities r - a potion of invisibility t - a potion of magic u - 2 potions of might v - a potion of speed w - 2 potions of curing z - 2 potions of flight B - a potion of brilliance C - 3 potions of resistance Books f - a book of Dreams Spells Type Level Ensorcelled Hibernation Hexes/Ice 2 *Flight Charms/Air 3 Alistair's Intoxication Transmutation/Poison 4 Phase Shift Translocation 5 Shadow Creatures Summoning 5 Darkness Hexes 7 Skills: - Level 6.2 Fighting - Level 13.0 Dodging - Level 3.0 Stealth - Level 1.9 Shields - Level 3.0 Traps + Level 19.1 Spellcasting * Level 19.2 Conjurations - Level 10.2 Charms - Level 0.7 Summonings - Level 1.5 Translocations * Level 19.0 Fire Magic - Level 2.1 Poison Magic You had one spell level left. You knew the following spells: Your Spells Type Power Failure Level Hunger a - Bolt of Fire Conj/Fire #########. 1% 6 None b - Blink Tloc N/A 1% 2 None c - Call Imp Summ ######.... 1% 2 None d - Mephitic Cloud Conj/Pois/Air #######.. 1% 3 None e - Conjure Flame Conj/Fire ######### 0% 3 None f - Repel Missiles Chrm/Air #######... 1% 2 None g - Magic Dart Conj ##### 0% 1 None h - Fire Storm Conj/Fire #########. 12% 9 ######. i - Fireball Conj/Fire #########. 0% 5 None j - Iskenderun's Arcane Conj/Chrm ########. 1% 4 None k - Haste Chrm ########. 2% 6 None l - Poison Arrow Conj/Pois ########.. 1% 6 None m - Summon Butterflies Summ ######... 1% 1 None n - Apportation Tloc ######.... 1% 1 None o - Control Teleport Chrm/Tloc #######... 1% 4 None p - Flight Chrm/Air #######... 1% 3 None Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations Branches: Dungeon (25/27) Temple (1/1) D:4 Orc (4/4) D:9 Elf (0/3) Orc:4 Lair (8/8) D:8 Shoals (4/5) Lair:5 Spider (0/5) Lair:6 Slime (0/6) Lair:8 Vaults (4/5) D:16 Blade (0/1) Vaults:3 Crypt (0/5) Vaults:2 Altars: Ashenzari Cheibriados Elyvilon Fedhas Kikubaaqudgha Makhleb Nemelex Xobeh Okawaru Sif Muna Trog Vehumet Xom Yredelemnul Zin the Shining One Beogh Jiyva Shops: D:4: * D:9: %* D:10: * D:11: * D:22: = D:23: + Orc:2: [ Orc:4: (=![! Portals: Hell: D:21 D:22 D:23 D:24 Abyss: D:21 Pandemonium: D:24 Trove: D:16 (give +4 ice dragon armour) Annotations D:13 exclusion: oklob plant D:24 Jorgrun Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations You are tiny and cannot use many weapons and most armour. You have supernaturally acute eyesight. You are a herbivore. You cover ground extremely quickly. You need consume almost no food. Your mind is acute (Int +1). Message History Jorgrun is moderately wounded. The yaktaur captain wields a crossbow. The yaktaur captain shoots a bolt. The bolt hits you! Casting: Bolt of Fire Confirm with . or Enter, or press ? or * to list all spells. Aiming: Bolt of Fire Press: ? - help, Shift-Dir - straight line, f/p - Jorgrun Aim: Jorgrun, wielding a staff of earth and wearing a robe (moderately wounded) The bolt of fire misses Jorgrun. Jorgrun says, "May tha earth consume ye!" Jorgrun mumbles some strange words. The crystal wall shatters! The blast of crystal shards hits you! Ouch! That really hurt! * * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * * Drink which item? (? for menu, Esc to quit) You feel much better. The yaktaur captain shoots a bolt. The bolt hits you! * * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * * Jorgrun gestures wildly while chanting. The crystal wall shatters! The blast of crystal shards hits you! Ouch! That really hurt! You die... #.....<..##§§##.)#..⌠.>.#(#.##. ##.......##≈.....'#%%..(.#..... ##########§?....###.#.####.#.# #≈##.....#'#'######'#' ≈≈ ##'..<.......≈##.#.# (..##.#'....(.##?≈##...% .c..'#.#'....#...≈##...# #..'#.#'...#...≈##b### ##...'#(##.(§§§§≈##.#.. ##.....'###≈§§§≈§§##.... #......@##≈############# ..q....#..≈############## #...# #..≈##............ ##. )..≈##..>...#...#. . #..≈##.>..#...#... ..?≈##..>...#...#. §.§≈##............ §≈≈§##.....#.#.... §#≈ #...######... #..## ###. #### ## You could see Jorgrun and a yaktaur captain. Vanquished Creatures Saint Roka (Orc:3) Boris (D:21) Margery (D:23) A bone dragon (D:24) 2 liches Nikola (D:18) 2 titans (D:24) A storm dragon (D:24) Rupert (Lair:5) 4 sphinxes The ghost of BOOPYPUTT the Shatterer, a mighty MiBe of Trog (D:20) Frances (D:20) Aizul (Vaults:1) A frost giant (Vaults:4) Louise (Vaults:1) Maud (D:16) 18 stone giants 6 fire giants A human zombie (D:23) 5 ettins A storm dragon zombie (Vaults:3) 3 great orbs of eyes 31 yaktaur captains 2 sirens (Shoals:1) 3 dragons Erica (D:11) Harold (D:11) Josephine (D:11) 9 hydras 2 dancing weapons (Vaults:3) 2 ice dragons A ravenous item mimic (Shoals:3) 9 ogre magi A sphinx zombie (D:18) 3 wolf spider zombies A fire giant zombie (Vaults:3) 8 very ugly things A shadow dragon skeleton (Vaults:4) 19 deep trolls A stone giant zombie (Vaults:1) A frost giant zombie (D:18) 3 orc high priests (Orc:4) A sphinx skeleton (Vaults:3) 12 death yaks 2 rakshasas Nergalle (Orc:4) 24 centaur warriors 6 fire giant skeletons 12 stone giant skeletons An iron golem (D:19) Erolcha (D:8) 7 iron trolls 5 deep elf knights 2 hell knights (D:23) A skeletal warrior (Vaults:2) A shadow wraith (D:20) A giant orange brain (Vaults:4) 6 unseen horrors A naga warrior (Vaults:3) 5 sea snakes 3 wizards 3 iron troll zombies A flayed ghost (D:19) Pikel (D:4) 2 harpies (shapeshifter) A crystal golem (Vaults:3) 6 giant amoebae 9 orc sorcerers 4 necromancers 10 hill giants 25 orc knights 8 griffons 3 iron troll skeletons A spiny worm (shapeshifter) (D:23) A lindwurm (D:15) A harpy zombie (D:13) A shining eye (shapeshifter) (Vaults:3) 7 spiny worms 5 wolf spiders 5 harpies 2 red wasps 13 cyclopes An elephant slug (Lair:6) A griffon zombie (D:10) 2 ettin zombies 2 dragon skeletons A dragon zombie (D:15) A black mamba (shapeshifter) (D:20) A griffon skeleton (D:24) 20 elephants 6 black mambas 4 ettin skeletons A spiny frog (shapeshifter) (Vaults:2) A hill giant zombie (D:15) A feature mimic (D:19) 65 slime creatures An ice dragon skeleton (Vaults:1) A queen ant (D:13) 7 mermaids Psyche (D:11) 46 yaktaurs 17 rock trolls 16 spiny frogs 7 komodo dragons A hill giant skeleton (Vaults:1) 119 ugly things A troll (shapeshifter) (Vaults:3) Sonja (D:15) 17 trolls A deep troll zombie (D:20) A wandering mushroom (D:16) An iron devil (Orc:4) 2 rock troll zombies (Vaults:1) 13 blink frogs A red wasp simulacrum (D:17) 18 two-headed ogres 6 deep troll skeletons 6 snapping turtles A blink frog (shapeshifter) (Vaults:3) A brown ooze (shapeshifter) (D:20) A raven (shapeshifter) (D:21) 3 rock troll skeletons A grizzly bear (Lair:8) 5 basilisks 3 vampires 11 hippogriffs A hungry ghost (D:10) 2 wraiths An air elemental (Vaults:2) 6 wyverns 52 yaks 2 steam dragons 2 deep elf conjurers (Orc:4) Eustachio (D:5) 2 fire drakes 13 war dogs 2 blink frog skeletons 18 merfolk Grum (Orc:4) 7 vampire mosquitoes A yak (shapeshifter) (D:19) A trapdoor spider (D:14) 2 hogs (shapeshifter) 4 rock worms A shark (Shoals:2) 7 deep elf fighters A hippogriff (shapeshifter) (D:19) 2 necrophages (D:11) A yaktaur zombie (D:12) A mottled dragon (D:16) 4 molten gargoyles (D:23) 2 hell hounds (Lair:8) 9 manticores 8 boulder beetles 7 soldier ants (D:13) A fire drake (shapeshifter) (Vaults:4) 54 orc warriors 2 slaves (D:4) 2 yaktaur skeletons 14 freezing wraiths A kobold demonologist (D:17) A manticore skeleton (D:11) 6 sky beasts 8 ice beasts A deep elf priest (Vaults:3) An ice beast (shapeshifter) (D:17) 3 phantoms 2 troll zombies 2 swamp drakes (Lair:6) 5 tengu (Shoals:2) 39 ogres 6 giant goldfish A yellow wasp (shapeshifter) (D:16) A boring beetle (D:24) A yellow wasp (D:12) 21 centaurs 14 crocodiles 19 wargs 6 nagas (Vaults:3) 12 giant slugs 6 wolves A brain worm (D:17) 2 deep elf magi 18 big kobolds 4 agate snails 2 basilisk zombies 13 water moccasins Blork the orc (D:9) 18 giant frogs 2 water moccasin skeletons (Vaults:4) 5 basilisk skeletons 14 killer bees 2 eyes of draining 7 wights A killer bee zombie (D:9) 18 electric eels 3 goliath beetles 17 jellyfish 3 shadows 6 crimson imps 3 quasits 2 big kobold skeletons 20 hounds 2 big kobold zombies (D:13) A brain worm zombie (D:13) A mottled dragon zombie (D:13) 8 big fish A basilisk simulacrum (D:17) 8 spiders (Lair:6) Crazy Yiuf (D:5) 37 orc priests A hound skeleton (D:11) 42 orc wizards 8 scorpions 11 deep elf soldiers 7 iguanas 2 worker ant zombies 15 sheep 27 worker ants 10 porcupines A worm zombie (D:6) 5 jellies A goliath beetle zombie (D:14) A mummy (D:13) 12 gnolls An iguana zombie (D:9) 20 adders 6 giant centipedes 55 green rats An iguana skeleton (D:9) 3 orc zombies (Orc:4) 2 adder skeletons 10 giant mites 6 worms A grey rat (D:5) 3 giant eyeballs 6 giant geckos An ooze (D:3) 220 orcs 7 giant cockroaches 25 hobgoblins 36 jackals 6 quokkas A ball python (D:2) 18 bats 6 giant newts 2 giant spores (D:10) 26 goblins 6 illusory rakshasas A jackal skeleton (D:9) 34 kobolds A kobold skeleton (D:5) A kobold zombie (D:5) 2 orc skeletons 2 quokka skeletons 26 rats 2 rat skeletons A spectral orc (Orc:4) 14 ballistomycetes (D:10) A butterfly (D:24) 4 fungi 13 plants 2097 creatures vanquished. Vanquished Creatures (collateral kills) The ghost of cumgolem the Digger, an average DDEE (D:4) A blink frog (Lair:8) An orc warrior (D:7) A giant goldfish (Lair:8) A water moccasin (Lair:8) An electric eel (Lair:8) A worker ant (D:4) An orc (D:7) A jackal (Lair:8) A fungus (Lair:8) A plant (Lair:8) 11 creatures vanquished. Vanquished Creatures (others) A yaktaur (D:22) A yak (D:10) A small abomination (Lair:8) A human (D:3) A warg (Vaults:4) 2 orc priests A worker ant (D:4) An orc wizard (D:12) A jelly (shapeshifter) (D:16) A green rat (Lair:8) A giant centipede (Lair:1) A white imp (D:4) A bat skeleton (D:4) A giant gecko (D:4) An orc (D:12) A hobgoblin (D:6) 2 jackals (Lair:4) A bat (D:4) A giant spore (D:10) 3 kobolds An orc skeleton (D:12) 2 rats 5 arcane familiars A ballistomycete (D:10) 5 butterflies 9 fungi 4 plants 51 creatures vanquished. Grand Total: 2159 creatures vanquished Notes Turn | Place | Note -------------------------------------------------------------- 0 | D:1 | prospero, the Spriggan Wizard, began the quest for the Orb. 0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 1. HP: 7/7 MP: 7/7 702 | D:1 | Reached XP level 2. HP: 11/11 MP: 10/10 874 | D:2 | Reached skill level 1 in Conjurations 1528 | D:2 | Reached XP level 3. HP: 15/15 MP: 7/13 2254 | D:3 | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha. 2255 | D:3 | Reached skill level 5 in Spellcasting 2352 | D:3 | Learned a level 2 spell: Blink 2355 | D:3 | Learned a level 2 spell: Call Imp 2359 | D:3 | Learned a level 3 spell: Mephitic Cloud 2363 | D:3 | Learned a level 3 spell: Conjure Flame 2564 | D:3 | Noticed a giant frog 2818 | D:3 | Reached XP level 4. HP: 19/19 MP: 1/17 3027 | D:3 | Learned a level 2 spell: Repel Missiles 3526 | D:3 | Killed a giant frog 3526 | D:3 | Reached XP level 5. HP: 23/23 MP: 11/19 3611 | D:3 | Found a sparkling altar of Nemelex Xobeh. 3688 | D:3 | Noticed a human 3691 | D:3 | Killed a human 3853 | D:3 | Upgraded the game from 0.12-a0-1950-gf7478fd to 0.12-a0-1968-g4ef43cc 3930 | D:4 | Found Burisokh's General Store. 3930 | D:4 | Noticed a phantom 3949 | D:4 | Killed a phantom 3949 | D:4 | Reached XP level 6. HP: 24/27 MP: 3/21 4141 | D:4 | Bought a potion of curing for 20 gold pieces 4141 | D:4 | Bought a scroll of remove curse for 30 gold pieces 4183 | D:4 | Noticed a slave 4184 | D:4 | Noticed Pikel 4185 | D:4 | Noticed a slave 4185 | D:4 | Noticed a slave 4186 | D:4 | Noticed a slave 4262 | D:4 | Noticed cumgolem's ghost (average DDEE) 4562 | D:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon 4820 | D:5 | Noticed Eustachio 5121 | D:5 | Reached skill level 6 in Spellcasting 5387 | D:5 | Killed Eustachio 5387 | D:5 | Reached XP level 7. HP: 30/30 MP: 12/24 5780 | D:5 | Found a burning altar of Makhleb. 6011 | D:5 | Reached skill level 7 in Spellcasting 6262 | D:5 | Reached skill level 5 in Conjurations 6498 | D:5 | Noticed Crazy Yiuf 6506 | D:5 | Killed Crazy Yiuf 6835 | D:6 | Reached XP level 8. HP: 35/35 MP: 18/26 6900 | D:6 | Reached skill level 8 in Spellcasting 7032 | D:6 | Reached skill level 1 in Charms 7032 | D:6 | Reached skill level 1 in Poison Magic 8703 | D:7 | Reached XP level 9. HP: 13/38 MP: 16/29 9232 | D:7 | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging 9248 | D:7 | Reached skill level 9 in Spellcasting 9703 | D:7 | Reached skill level 1 in Fighting 10525 | D:7 | Found a glowing golden altar of the Shining One. 10978 | D:7 | Noticed a moth of wrath 10981 | D:7 | Found a bloodstained altar of Trog. 11187 | D:4 | Killed cumgolem's ghost 11283 | D:4 | Killed a slave 11418 | D:4 | Killed a slave 11428 | D:4 | Killed Pikel 11586 | D:4 | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple. 11600 | Temple | Entered the Ecumenical Temple 11754 | Temple | Became a worshipper of Vehumet 11781 | D:4 | Noticed an ogre 11788 | D:4 | Killed an ogre 12358 | D:8 | Reached XP level 10. HP: 34/44 MP: 1/30 12615 | D:8 | Noticed Erolcha 12616 | D:8 | Upgraded the game from 0.12-a0-1968-g4ef43cc to 0.12-a0-1988-g95baa73 12658 | D:8 | Found a blossoming altar of Fedhas. 12666 | D:8 | Reached skill level 10 in Spellcasting 13016 | D:9 | Found a deep blue altar of Sif Muna. 13138 | D:9 | Found a snail-covered altar of Cheibriados. 13339 | D:9 | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines. 13383 | D:9 | Found Zauts' Assorted Antiques. 13389 | D:9 | Bought a potion of heal wounds for 69 gold pieces 13449 | D:9 | Acquired Vehumet's first power 13449 | D:9 | Offered knowledge of Shock by Vehumet. 13839 | D:9 | Noticed a hill giant 13911 | D:10 | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon 14171 | D:9 | Noticed Blork the orc 14432 | D:10 | Found Chaihaug's Assorted Antiques. 14507 | D:9 | Killed Blork the orc 14764 | D:9 | Learned a level 1 spell: Apportation 14781 | D:9 | Found Vauhabac's Food Emporium. 15148 | D:9 | Killed a hill giant 15148 | D:9 | Offered knowledge of Sandblast by Vehumet. 15596 | D:10 | Upgraded the game from 0.12-a0-1988-g95baa73 to 0.12-a0-2001-gf599d7f 15628 | D:10 | Reached skill level 11 in Spellcasting 15628 | D:10 | Reached skill level 1 in Fire Magic 16045 | D:10 | Found a white marble altar of Elyvilon. 16107 | D:10 | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting 17393 | D:10 | Reached XP level 11. HP: 43/51 MP: 27/32 17583 | D:10 | Reached skill level 10 in Dodging 18294 | D:10 | Reached skill level 12 in Spellcasting 18326 | D:11 | Noticed Erica 18342 | D:11 | Noticed Josephine 18619 | D:12 | Offered knowledge of Static Discharge by Vehumet. 18624 | D:12 | Learned a level 3 spell: Static Discharge 18938 | D:12 | Noticed an unseen horror 18965 | D:12 | Killed an unseen horror 19287 | D:11 | Found Phaprah's Assorted Antiques. 19347 | D:11 | Learned a level 5 spell: Fireball 19365 | D:11 | Noticed an unseen horror 19676 | D:12 | Acquired Vehumet's second power 19882 | D:12 | You fall through a shaft! 19882 | D:15 | Entered Level 15 of the Dungeon 19954 | D:15 | Noticed Sonja 20012 | D:14 | Entered Level 14 of the Dungeon 20556 | D:13 | Noticed a hill giant 20567 | D:13 | Killed a hill giant 21564 | D:11 | Noticed Harold 21892 | D:8 | Reached skill level 13 in Spellcasting 21897 | D:8 | Offered knowledge of Iskenderun's Arcane Familiar by Vehumet. 21903 | D:8 | Learned a level 4 spell: Iskenderun's Arcane Familiar 21910 | D:8 | Learned a level 6 spell: Haste 22112 | D:8 | Noticed an elephant 22115 | D:8 | Noticed an elephant 22153 | D:8 | Killed an elephant 22166 | D:8 | Killed an elephant 22440 | D:8 | Noticed an elephant 22455 | D:8 | Killed an elephant 22565 | D:8 | Found a staircase to the Lair. 22685 | D:8 | Killed Erolcha 22685 | D:8 | Reached XP level 12. HP: 56/56 MP: 27/35 22860 | Lair:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts 22996 | Lair:1 | Upgraded the game from 0.12-a0-2001-gf599d7f to 0.12-a0-2010-gaef24d2 23091 | Lair:1 | Acquired Vehumet's third power 23464 | Lair:1 | Offered knowledge of Venom Bolt by Vehumet. 23790 | Lair:1 | Reached skill level 14 in Spellcasting 24448 | Lair:1 | Found a blossoming altar of Fedhas. 24595 | Lair:1 | Reached skill level 5 in Charms 25614 | Lair:2 | Reached skill level 10 in Conjurations 25625 | Lair:2 | Got a sparkling tin ring 26047 | Temple | Learned a level 6 spell: Poison Arrow 26189 | Lair:3 | Reached skill level 15 in Spellcasting 26526 | Lair:3 | Got a colourful book 26527 | Lair:3 | Identified the Guide on Evil Calling (You found it on level 3 of the Lair of Beasts) 26529 | Lair:3 | Learned a level 1 spell: Summon Butterflies 27109 | Lair:3 | Offered knowledge of Bolt of Fire by Vehumet. 27300 | Temple | Learned a level 6 spell: Bolt of Fire 28342 | Lair:4 | Identified the ring "Psuwn" {rElec rF+ Dex+3 Int+4} (You found it on level 2 of the Lair of Beasts) 29624 | Lair:5 | Noticed a death yak 29630 | Lair:5 | Killed a death yak 29631 | Lair:5 | Noticed a death yak 29702 | Lair:5 | Noticed a death yak 29703 | Lair:5 | Noticed a death yak 29705 | Lair:5 | Noticed a death yak 29715 | Lair:5 | Killed a death yak 29715 | Lair:5 | Reached skill level 16 in Spellcasting 29725 | Lair:5 | Killed a death yak 29725 | Lair:5 | Killed a death yak 29725 | Lair:5 | Reached skill level 5 in Fire Magic 30042 | Lair:5 | Reached XP level 13. HP: 60/60 MP: 37/37 30186 | Lair:5 | Noticed Rupert 30194 | Lair:5 | Killed Rupert 30478 | Lair:5 | You fall through a shaft! 30744 | Lair:6 | Noticed a five-headed hydra 30746 | Lair:6 | Killed a five-headed hydra 30957 | Lair:6 | Offered knowledge of Iskenderun's Mystic Blast by Vehumet. 31129 | Lair:6 | Got a brightly glowing long sword 31130 | Lair:6 | Identified the long sword "Mnitz" {drain, rPois rF+ Str+4 Dex+4 Int-2} (You found it on level 6 of the Lair of Beasts) 31224 | Lair:5 | Killed a death yak 31224 | Lair:5 | Reached skill level 17 in Spellcasting 31224 | Lair:5 | Reached skill level 10 in Charms 31285 | Lair:5 | Noticed a seven-headed hydra 31296 | Lair:5 | Killed a seven-headed hydra 31435 | Lair:5 | Found a staircase to the Shoals. 31700 | D:10 | Bought a scroll of identify for 76 gold pieces 31700 | D:10 | Bought a scroll of enchant armour for 209 gold pieces 33306 | Lair:6 | Found a hole to the Spider Nest. 33328 | Lair:6 | Noticed a four-headed hydra 33337 | Lair:6 | Killed a four-headed hydra 34355 | Lair:8 | Entered Level 8 of the Lair of Beasts 34355 | Lair:8 | Found a viscous altar of Jiyva. 34355 | Lair:8 | Found a staircase to the Slime Pits. 34379 | Lair:7 | Reached skill level 18 in Spellcasting 34740 | Lair:7 | Offered knowledge of Ignite Poison by Vehumet. 34921 | Lair:7 | Identified a +0 rod of destruction [fire] (14/14) (You found it on level 7 of the Lair of Beasts) 35800 | Lair:8 | Reached XP level 14. HP: 65/65 MP: 23/39 37169 | Lair:8 | Offered knowledge of Delayed Fireball by Vehumet. 37579 | Lair:8 | Got a slimy robe 37589 | Lair:8 | Identified the +2 robe of Lilacs {rElec rC+} (You found it on level 8 of the Lair of Beasts) 37908 | Orc:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Orcish Mines 38365 | Orc:2 | Found Tisienti's Armour Emporium. 38377 | Orc:2 | Bought a +0 elven buckler for 56 gold pieces 38563 | Orc:3 | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh. 38896 | Orc:2 | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh. 38904 | Orc:2 | Offered knowledge of Bolt of Draining by Vehumet. 39501 | Orc:2 | Reached skill level 1 in Shields 39873 | Orc:4 | Entered Level 4 of the Orcish Mines 39873 | Orc:4 | Noticed Saint Roka 39982 | D:11 | Killed Erica 40364 | D:11 | Killed Josephine 40616 | D:11 | Noticed Psyche 40618 | D:11 | Killed Psyche 40728 | D:11 | Reached skill level 10 in Fire Magic 40747 | D:11 | Killed Harold 40747 | D:11 | Offered knowledge of Iron Shot by Vehumet. 40884 | D:11 | Killed an unseen horror 43024 | D:14 | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 3 turns 43090 | D:14 | Noticed a four-headed hydra 43098 | D:14 | Killed a four-headed hydra 43098 | D:14 | Reached skill level 1 in Traps 43482 | D:14 | Noticed a hill giant 43691 | D:14 | Killed a hill giant 43870 | D:14 | Noticed a four-headed hydra 43872 | D:14 | Killed a four-headed hydra 43982 | D:14 | Reached XP level 15. HP: 56/69 MP: 34/40 44027 | D:14 | Offered knowledge of Delayed Fireball by Vehumet. 44852 | D:4 | Bought a cursed +0 cloak for 21 gold pieces 44852 | D:4 | Bought a scroll of identify for 20 gold pieces 44852 | D:4 | Bought a scroll of identify for 20 gold pieces 44852 | D:4 | Bought an uncursed amulet of clarity for 200 gold pieces 44854 | D:4 | Gained mutation: Your mind is acute (Int +1). [potion of gain intelligence] 45450 | D:15 | Noticed an eight-headed hydra 45452 | D:15 | Killed an eight-headed hydra 45608 | D:15 | Killed Sonja 45609 | D:15 | Noticed a six-headed hydra 45620 | D:15 | Killed a six-headed hydra 47364 | D:16 | Found a portal to a secret trove of treasure. 47450 | D:16 | Noticed Maud 47650 | D:16 | Killed Maud 48219 | D:16 | Found a staircase to the Vaults. 50145 | Vaults:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Vaults 50495 | Vaults:1 | Offered knowledge of Conjure Ball Lightning by Vehumet. 51058 | Vaults:1 | Noticed Aizul 51067 | Vaults:1 | Killed Aizul 52151 | Vaults:1 | Reached XP level 16. HP: 74/74 MP: 38/41 52543 | Vaults:1 | Noticed a fire giant 52557 | Vaults:1 | Killed a fire giant 52726 | Vaults:1 | Noticed a stone giant 52729 | Vaults:1 | Killed a stone giant 52872 | Vaults:1 | Got a warped morningstar 52876 | Vaults:1 | Identified the morningstar of Victory {venom, *Rage Dex+3} (You found it on level 1 of the Vaults) 53028 | Vaults:1 | Noticed Louise 53031 | Vaults:1 | Killed Louise 55767 | Vaults:2 | Offered knowledge of Tornado by Vehumet. 55801 | Vaults:2 | Found a staircase to the Crypt. 55966 | Vaults:2 | Reached skill level 15 in Conjurations 56583 | Vaults:3 | Got an ichor-stained buckler 56589 | Vaults:3 | Identified the cursed -2 buckler of Trumpets {rF+} (You found it on level 3 of the Vaults) 56619 | Vaults:3 | Found a staircase to the Hall of Blades. 57541 | Vaults:3 | Reached XP level 17. HP: 78/78 MP: 26/42 60590 | Vaults:4 | Noticed a lich 60597 | Vaults:4 | Killed a lich 63104 | Vaults:4 | Reached skill level 15 in Fire Magic 63494 | Vaults:4 | Offered knowledge of Shatter by Vehumet. 63695 | Vaults:4 | Reached XP level 18. HP: 77/82 MP: 15/42 68814 | D:18 | Identified a +0 rod of demonology (11/11) (You found it on level 18 of the Dungeon) 69397 | D:18 | Noticed Nikola 69404 | D:18 | Killed Nikola 71544 | D:19 | Reached XP level 19. HP: 86/86 MP: 28/43 71789 | D:20 | Entered Level 20 of the Dungeon 73234 | Temple | Learned a level 9 spell: Fire Storm 73892 | Orc:3 | Killed Saint Roka 74487 | Orc:4 | Noticed Grum 74489 | Orc:4 | Killed Grum 74748 | Orc:4 | Found Klat's Weapon Emporium. 75093 | Orc:4 | Found a staircase to the Elven Halls. 75116 | Orc:4 | Noticed Nergalle 75135 | Orc:4 | Killed Nergalle 77419 | Orc:4 | Found Baefaes' Jewellery Shoppe. 77424 | Orc:4 | Found Mautuomm's Distillery. 77427 | Orc:4 | Found Nesohis' Armour Shop. 77429 | Orc:4 | Found Uchur's Distillery. 77450 | Orc:4 | Bought the ring of Gatev {Hunger- rF+ rC++} for 693 gold pieces 77516 | Orc:4 | Bought a potion of berserk rage for 48 gold pieces 77526 | Orc:4 | Bought a +2 wizard hat for 226 gold pieces 77549 | Orc:4 | Upgraded the game from 0.12-a0-2010-gaef24d2 to 0.12-a0-2019-g967e03a 77870 | D:20 | Found a snail-covered altar of Cheibriados. 78747 | D:20 | Noticed BOOPYPUTT's ghost (mighty MiBe) 78937 | D:20 | Killed BOOPYPUTT's ghost 79291 | D:20 | Noticed Frances 79294 | D:20 | Killed Frances 80389 | D:21 | Found a gateway to Hell. 80635 | D:21 | Found a one-way gate to the infinite horrors of the Abyss. 80776 | D:21 | Found a glowing golden altar of the Shining One. 81332 | D:22 | Found a white marble altar of Elyvilon. 81659 | D:22 | Noticed Boris 82653 | Orc:4 | Bought an uncursed ring of flight for 192 gold pieces 82941 | Shoals:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Shoals 83276 | Shoals:1 | Reached XP level 20. HP: 91/91 MP: 25/44 83891 | Shoals:1 | You fall through a shaft! 87553 | D:21 | Killed Boris 87553 | D:21 | HP: 4/91 [disintegration (87)] 88416 | D:22 | Learned a level 1 spell: Apportation 88421 | D:22 | Learned a level 4 spell: Control Teleport 88709 | D:22 | Found Upaet's Jewellery Shop. 89846 | D:22 | Got a bloodstained robe 89853 | D:22 | Identified the cursed +0 robe "Smanlim" {Str+3 Int+1} (You found it on level 22 of the Dungeon) 90547 | D:22 | Upgraded the game from 0.12-a0-2019-g967e03a to 0.12-a0-2039-g40c6173 92656 | D:23 | Found Clidih's Book Boutique. 92712 | D:23 | Noticed Margery 92715 | D:23 | Killed Margery 92715 | D:23 | Reached XP level 21. HP: 95/95 MP: 21/44 95711 | D:24 | Found a one-way gate leading to the halls of Pandemonium. 95721 | D:24 | Noticed a lich 95724 | D:24 | Killed a lich 96039 | D:25 | Entered Level 25 of the Dungeon 96096 | D:24 | Found a bloodstained altar of Trog. 96097 | D:24 | Found a shimmering altar of Xom. 96097 | D:24 | Found a shimmering altar of Xom. 97911 | D:24 | Reached skill level 19 in Conjurations 97911 | D:24 | Reached XP level 22. HP: 93/100 MP: 39/45 98538 | D:24 | Noticed a bone dragon 99135 | D:24 | Killed a bone dragon 100011 | D:24 | Learned a level 3 spell: Flight 100012 | D:24 | Noticed Jorgrun 100015 | D:24 | HP: 3/100 [yaktaur captain/ bolt (22)] 100015 | D:24 | Killed from afar by Jorgrun

Sunday, 3rd February 2013, 20:20 by nago

You probably know that, but this isn't a real unfair death: you could have survived this, if you acted differently.
Firstly, your last actions were bad: if you lose 87 in one turn, no heal wounds can reliably save your life; instead it's a wasted action, because you'll almost certain suffer more damage you've healed in the next turn.

The most secure action was to use one of your blinking scroll to get out of LOS of both Jorgrun and the captain - I'm not a console player, but it looks possible to me from the morgue file. Then, escaping with sp's speed would have been trivial.
I don't know Jorgrun's stat and monster's IA with shatter, maybe if you were missing ?blinking even the fear scroll, the fog one, invis pots or mephitic cloud could have save yourself.

Anyway, you play badly all the fight: you were against a shattering foo, near green crystal wall (I don't remember if fragments are dodgeable, but surely green ones do insane damage), you weren't hasted neither flying and to spicy a bit the situation you had another mildly dangerous foo in LOS. As sp you should have choose a totally different zone to play that combat (or run away like hell).

Sunday, 3rd February 2013, 20:30 by BlackSheep

prospero14 wrote:That's a known risk: sometimes yaktaur bolts get past repel missiles and do around 20 damage.

Sunday, 3rd February 2013, 22:31 by prospero14

Anyway, you play badly all the fight: you were against a shattering foo, near green crystal wall (I don't remember if fragments are dodgeable, but surely green ones do insane damage), you weren't hasted neither flying and to spicy a bit the situation you had another mildly dangerous foo in LOS. As sp you should have choose a totally different zone to play that combat (or run away like hell).

Yeah, I didn't know he could shatter the walls like that. Obviously the vault was a setup to let him do that.

I had one move after he came in LOS. Clearly I could have ran away instead of engaging. I looked him up on learndb and thought "earth magic. Doesn't sound so bad." So I went for it. I didn't put together "earth magic + green walls = he can shatter them and do insane damage". That's the part that if not unfair, was at least completely unexpected. I didn't know he could blow up the walls. I don't think I've ever seen shatter in a crawl game before, come to think of it.

Now I know, I guess.

Sunday, 3rd February 2013, 22:45 by dassem

I have some sympathy! Jorgrun can dig through walls and Yaktaurs are nasty at range. (Interestingly, they are not as fast as centaurs, which I didn't know until I looked it up...)
So, running away is not quite as easy as one might think! :twisted:

I'm a little off topic, but I just met Jorgrun for the first time and nearly died to underestimating him:
I was getting into the flow of dropping freezing clouds on things and blocking them with zombies, so I wasn't too scared by a new unique - I just dropped some clouds and retreated around a corner to wait for the XP... His response was to blast through the wall! Although that was a surprise, I wasn't too worried as I still had zombies to block direct LOS... His response to that was to cast Shatter, which cleared out most of my minions and nearly all my HP. Luckily another turn sitting in the cloud an icicle to the face finished him off one turn before he would have finished me. :-)

I really enjoyed that, so "well done" to whoever designed this unique!

Sunday, 3rd February 2013, 23:01 by nago

prospero14 wrote:
I had one move after he came in LOS. Clearly I could have ran away instead of engaging. I looked him up on learndb and thought "earth magic. Doesn't sound so bad." So I went for it. I didn't put together "earth magic + green walls = he can shatter them and do insane damage". That's the part that if not unfair, was at least completely unexpected. I didn't know he could blow up the walls. I don't think I've ever seen shatter in a crawl game before, come to think of it.

Now I know, I guess.

Yes, monster with shatter and tornado (are the latter in?) are new for trunk. Crawl seems to always find new ways to deliver insane pain.

dassem wrote:I have some sympathy! Jorgrun can dig through walls and Yaktaurs are nasty at range. (Interestingly, they are not as fast as centaurs, which I didn't know until I looked it up...)
So, running away is not quite as easy as one might think!

He was a sp. Running away from a 10 speed monster is as easy as hitting the right movement key.

Sunday, 3rd February 2013, 23:07 by Psieye

prospero14 wrote:
Anyway, you play badly all the fight: you were against a shattering foo, near green crystal wall (I don't remember if fragments are dodgeable, but surely green ones do insane damage), you weren't hasted neither flying and to spicy a bit the situation you had another mildly dangerous foo in LOS. As sp you should have choose a totally different zone to play that combat (or run away like hell).

Yeah, I didn't know he could shatter the walls like that. Obviously the vault was a setup to let him do that.

I had one move after he came in LOS. Clearly I could have ran away instead of engaging. I looked him up on learndb and thought "earth magic. Doesn't sound so bad." So I went for it. I didn't put together "earth magic + green walls = he can shatter them and do insane damage". That's the part that if not unfair, was at least completely unexpected. I didn't know he could blow up the walls. I don't think I've ever seen shatter in a crawl game before, come to think of it.

Now I know, I guess.

You mean LRD, not shatter. Yeah this is the sort of surprise you don't get if you follow the commit logs, he's the first ever monster that can cast both those spells. No you can't dodge LRD debris - AC counts triple as I recall so a heavy armour dude can blow up walls in his own face just fine but a Sp has no chance.

Also, I do recall Yaktaur Captains landing 50+ damage in a single shot.

Monday, 4th February 2013, 02:22 by dassem

nago wrote:He was a sp. Running away from a 10 speed monster is as easy as hitting the right movement key.

Usually yes. But for this specific unique, Jorgrun can apparently bust through walls and so if the escape route is twisty, that might not be the case...
Your original suggestion of blinking was probably the best idea.

(From gameplay and the description, it seemed like he could track me effectively even when out of sight. Is that really the case?)

Monday, 4th February 2013, 07:06 by nago

As I said, I don't know the ia's with shatter, but no other foo in game use spells or abilities when the player (or his summon) is outside Los. Is jorgrun different or can I assume he won't track the player exploding wall and screaming "I'm back?"

Monday, 4th February 2013, 07:30 by Psieye

The monster AI was changed so Dig would be special cased. Yes, once again Jorgrun was responsible for driving that change but now that it's in, Cacodemons also have dig (seems they did in the past but had it scrapped as the AI was bad back then).

Not sure what his behaviour would actually be like (the one time I met him, I killed him with 5 LRDs before he ever saw me - I saw him when he was asleep next to statues). I do know that the way stelath works, he'd have an idea of where you are even out of sight and would probably dig his way there, then revise his estimate of your position until he lost track of you. Stealth value determining how fast he lost track.

Monday, 4th February 2013, 08:26 by Jeremiah

Hmm, now this monster has LRD and Shatter, will player ghosts also be able to use those spells? :shock:

Monday, 4th February 2013, 09:16 by byrel

*shudders in dread*

Tuesday, 5th February 2013, 02:06 by prospero14

Thanks for the discussion, guys.

I feel a little mollified to know that this was a new thing in trunk. To be honest, I was sure there was something nasty and the center of this vault. A vault that takes up the whole level? There must be a punchline.

And there was.

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