YASD - I just need to vent. Move along. Nothing to see here.

[Grimm]

RRRRR Damn it I hate losing characters at XL9+. They're JUST starting to come together. Lately it seems like something got changed that nerfs melee characters because I keep getting my ass handed to me by monsters I used to be able to walk over.

Also this is the second recent game where I've gotten an early crossbow and managed to train it up nicely. Only to get mangled. I do not remember Erica being all that tough, but she invised, blinked, poisoned me, bolted me, and Okawaru knows what elsed me within a handful of turns as I gulped heal pots and read a tele scroll. GRRRRRR it was just starting to get fun.

I am clearly in the "mid game is plenty fun" camp. I'd like to bring to the attention of the accomplished Crawlers who are contemplating toughening things up in the early and mid game the fact that there are plenty of us poorly-skilled players who already find plenty of challenge all the way through. Crawl does a good job of catering to both types of players; may it continue to do so.

In the meantime, pretend that my fist is punching through this thread in frustrated rage. Sustenance ring, cure mut pot waiting for me in a shop...damn it.

[Grimm]

GOD DAMN IT IT JUST HAPPENED AGAIN XL 9 FFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

[mageykun]

The only thing more frustrating than an unending string of early deaths where you're unable to get a character off the ground no matter what you do is an unending sting of deaths just when you start to get a character going. To die over and over just when you start to think you've got something sustainable, when things are just getting interesting.

[danr]

Yeah, I have just been trying a string of MDBes and MiGls and similar experience - I get to around XL10 and then die. Two of these were in baileys to Orc warriors or worse. However, they were both preventable.

[gb]

after dying to many "wimpy" uniques, i don't hold back on any of them, always using rods or potions *before* things start getting hairy

[Grimm]

Good idea - get there fustest with the mostest, every time.

It might be that the "mid game doldrums" are a primarily castercentric phenomenon. Melee characters are at that point not quite strong enough to knock just anything down - weapon skill has not reached 15 yet - but there is usually still a shortage of consumables that help paper over the damage gap. In short: fun times.

[vintermann]

after dying to many "wimpy" uniques, i don't hold back on any of them, always using rods or potions *before* things start getting hairy

Speaking of rods, did you know orcish wizard will use them if they can get their hands on them? (vintermann, ... killed by a lightning bolt ... thrown by an orcish wizard)

[galehar]

after dying to many "wimpy" uniques, i don't hold back on any of them, always using rods or potions *before* things start getting hairy

Speaking of rods, did you know orcish wizard will use them if they can get their hands on them? (vintermann, ... killed by a lightning bolt ... thrown by an orcish wizard)

This is new. It has been added for deep dwarf monsters, but of course, other monsters can use them now...