YSVP HoFi of Oka/Zin/TSO with 15 runes

[drag0n]

I noticed that a lot of good players use Hill Orcs, so I thought I'd give it a shot. Worked out pretty nicely! This was also my first win using a bardiche, which is amazing once your skill is high enough. A holy bardiche and haste made short work of Antaeus, Asmodeus, and all the others. I was going to use fire dragon armor, but I found pearl dragon armor in the swamp, then Oka gave me crystal plate and I even found gold dragon armor in the dungeon (when it rains, it pours!).

I realized that boots of running, haste, and swiftness all stack, so you can move a square in like .4 turns (if I remember correctly).

http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/drag0n/morgue-drag0n-20121120-235856.txt

  Code:

 Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.11.1 (webtiles) character file.

9792326 drag0n the Orcish Porcupine (level 27, 275/275 (292) HPs)
             Began as a Hill Orc Fighter on Nov 19, 2012.
             Was an Elder of the Shining One.
             Escaped with the Orb
             ... and 15 runes on Nov 20, 2012!
             
             The game lasted 14:41:45 (172922 turns).

drag0n the Orcish Porcupine (Hill Orc Fighter)    Turns: 172922, Time: 14:41:45

HP 275/275 (292) AC 53     Str 25      XL: 27
MP  52/52        EV 14     Int 14 (16) God: the Shining One [****..]
Gold 6493        SH  0     Dex 13      Spells:  8 memorised, 21 levels left

Res.Fire  : + + .   See Invis. : +   a - +8 bardiche (holy)
Res.Cold  : . . .   Warding    : .   l - +14 crystal plate armour (curse) {god gift
Life Prot.: + + +   Conserve   : +   (no shield)
Res.Poison: +       Res.Corr.  : .   p - +2 wizard hat of Nobility {god gift, rElec
Res.Elec. : +       Clarity    : .   i - +2 cloak {rPois} {god gift}
Sust.Abil.: . .     Spirit.Shd : .   g - +2 pair of dwarf gauntlets {Dex+3}
Res.Mut.  : .       Stasis     : .   G - -4 pair of boots {run}
Res.Rott. : .       Ctrl.Telep.: x   L - cursed amulet of Hospitality {Cons rElec r
Saprovore : + . .   Levitation : .   E - ring "Karedo" {rF+ MR MP+9 SInv}
                    Ctrl.Flight: .   s - cursed ring of Vitality {Regen HP+15}

@: quick, incredibly resistant to hostile enchantments, extremely unstealthy
A: saprovore 1
a: Divine Shield, Cleansing Flame, Renounce Religion
}: 15/15 runes: decaying, serpentine, slimy, silver, golden, iron, obsidian,
icy, bone, abyssal, demonic, glowing, magical, fiery, dark


You escaped.
You worshipped the Shining One.
the Shining One was extremely pleased with you.
You were not hungry.

You visited 17 branches of the dungeon, and saw 109 of its levels.
You visited Pandemonium 4 times, and saw 40 of its levels.
You visited the Abyss 1 time.
You visited 1 Ziggurat, and saw 13 of its levels.
You also visited: Bailey and Wizlab.

You collected 19709 gold pieces.
You spent 7127 gold pieces at shops.
You donated 2929 gold pieces.
You used 3180 gold pieces for miscellaneous purposes.


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You can tolerate rotten meat.


   Skills:
 O Level 27 Fighting
 O Level 27 Polearms
 - Level 23.0 Crossbows
 O Level 27 Armour
 - Level 22.5 Dodging
 - Level 16.3 Shields
 + Level 26.1 Traps & Doors
 - Level 10.3 Spellcasting
 - Level 20.5 Charms
   Level 5.0 Necromancy
 - Level 10.0 Translocations
 - Level 4.0 Air Magic
 O Level 27 Invocations
 - Level 13.6 Evocations


You had 21 spell levels left.
You knew the following spells:

 Your Spells              Type           Power        Failure   Level  Hunger
b - Blink                 Tloc           N/A          1%          2    None
e - Apportation           Tloc           ######....   1%          1    None
f - Flight                Chrm/Air       ######....   1%          3    #......
h - Haste                 Chrm           #######..    2%          6    ######.
i - Insulation            Chrm/Air       ######....   8%          4    ###....
s - Swiftness             Chrm/Air       ######....   1%          2    None
t - Control Teleport      Chrm/Tloc      #######...   1%          4    ###....
u - Passwall              Trmt/Erth      ##........   99%         3    #......


Inventory:

Hand weapons
 a - a +8,+8 bardiche of holy wrath (weapon)
 b - a +7,+6 crossbow of velocity
Missiles
 o - a poisoned bolt
 B - 104 bolts of penetration
 C - 63 bolts of flame
Armour
 g - a +2 pair of dwarven gauntlets of dexterity (worn)
 i - a +2 cloak of poison resistance (worn) {god gift}
 l - a cursed +14 crystal plate armour (worn) {god gift}
 p - the cursed +2 wizard hat of Nobility (worn) {god gift, rElec MR Str+1}
   (Okawaru gifted it to you on level 3 of the Elven Halls)   
   
   It affects your strength (+1).
   It insulates you from electricity.
   It increases your resistance to enchantments.
   It has a curse placed upon it.
 G - a -4 pair of boots of running (worn)
 R - the cursed +5 cloak of Thridob {rF+ Int+1}
   (You bought it in a shop on level 15 of the Dungeon)   
   
   It affects your intelligence (+1).
   It protects you from fire.
   It has a curse placed upon it.
 Z - a cursed +1 pair of boots of levitation {god gift}
Magical devices
 k - a wand of digging (9)
 m - a wand of disintegration (11)
 n - a wand of teleportation (4)
 r - a wand of cold (1)
 t - a wand of digging (7)
 y - a wand of cold (6)
 A - a wand of digging (8)
 I - a wand of teleportation (6)
 M - a wand of digging (3)
 N - a wand of disintegration (13)
 O - a wand of digging (15)
 P - a wand of disintegration (8)
 Q - a wand of hasting (7)
 U - a wand of disintegration (13)
 V - a wand of heal wounds (0)
Comestibles
 f - 3 bread rations
 S - 4 meat rations
Scrolls
 d - 5 scrolls of identify
 e - 6 scrolls of remove curse
 q - 5 scrolls of fear
 D - 4 scrolls of fog
 F - 7 scrolls of blinking
Jewellery
 s - the cursed ring of Vitality (left hand) {Regen HP+15}
   (You found it on level 7 of Tartarus)   
   
   [ring of regeneration]
   
   It affects your health (+15).
   It has a curse placed upon it.
 v - a cursed amulet of clarity
 x - a cursed amulet of resist mutation
 E - the ring "Karedo" (right hand) {rF+ MR MP+9 SInv}
   (You bought it in a shop on level 7 of the Vaults)   
   
   [ring of magical power]
   
   It protects you from fire.
   It increases your resistance to enchantments.
   It enhances your eyesight.
 J - the cursed ring "Oclis" {Hunger- rF+}
   (You found it on level 7 of a ziggurat)   
   
   [ring of sustenance]
   
   It protects you from fire.
   It has a curse placed upon it.
 K - the cursed ring "Loehicwu" {rC+ Str+2 Stlth++}
   (You found it on level 22 of the Dungeon)   
   
   [ring of strength]
   It affects your strength (+2).
   
   It protects you from cold.
   It makes you much more stealthy.
   It has a curse placed upon it.
 L - the cursed amulet of Hospitality (around neck) {Cons rElec rF+ rN+}
   (You found it in Pandemonium)   
   
   [amulet of conservation]
   
   It protects you from fire.
   It insulates you from electricity.
   It protects you from negative energy.
   It has a curse placed upon it.
 W - a cursed ring of protection from cold
Potions
 h - 3 potions of agility
 j - 2 potions of cure mutation
 z - 2 potions of speed
 H - 6 potions of magic
Orbs of Power
 T - the Orb of Zot
Rods
 c - a cursed +1 rod of venom (10/10) {!a}
   (You found it on level 2 of the Elven Halls)


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There were no monsters in sight!

Message History

There is a stone staircase leading up here.
The hell hound barks!
You climb upwards.
You sense a powerful magical force warping space.
There is a stone staircase leading down here.
There is an escape hatch in the floor here.
There is a staircase leading out of the dungeon here.
Drink which item? (? for menu, Esc to quit)
Okay, then.
Unknown command.
Evoke which item? (* to show all) (? for menu, Esc to quit)
Zapping: V - a wand of heal wounds (4)
You feel much better. This wand has 3 charges left.
Evoke which item? (* to show all) (? for menu, Esc to quit)
Zapping: V - a wand of heal wounds (3)
You feel much better. This wand has 2 charges left.
Evoke which item? (* to show all) (? for menu, Esc to quit)
Zapping: V - a wand of heal wounds (2)
You feel much better. This wand has 1 charge left.
Evoke which item? (* to show all) (? for menu, Esc to quit)
Zapping: V - a wand of heal wounds (1)
You feel much better. This wand has 0 charges left.
Evoke which item? (* to show all) (? for menu, Esc to quit)
Okay, then.
Unknown command.
Read which item? (? for menu, Esc to quit)
Okay, then.
Unknown command.
Are you sure you want to win?
You have escaped!


Action                   |  1- 3 |  4- 6 |  7- 9 | 10-12 | 13-15 | 16-18 | 19-21 | 22-24 | 25-27 || total
-------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------++-------
Melee: Trident           |   102 |   181 |   585 |   666 |     9 |       |       |       |       ||  1543
       War axe           |    55 |    92 |       |       |       |       |       |       |       ||   147
       Halberd           |       |       |     6 |       |       |       |       |       |       ||     6
       Demon trident     |       |       |       |   731 |    39 |       |       |       |  3173 ||  3943
       Bardiche          |       |       |       |       |  1334 |  1466 |  1828 |  2196 | 11452 || 18276
       Unarmed           |       |       |       |       |    13 |     9 |       |       |       ||    22
 Fire: Blowgun           |       |       |     9 |    15 |    18 |     9 |       |       |       ||    51
       Crossbow          |       |       |       |       |       |       |    29 |    53 |   189 ||   271
Throw: Dart              |       |    16 |    28 |    10 |       |       |       |       |       ||    54
       Stone             |       |       |       |     8 |       |       |       |       |       ||     8
       Javelin           |       |       |       |       |     8 |    22 |    17 |       |       ||    47
 Cast: Animate Skeleton  |       |       |       |       |       |     1 |       |       |       ||     1
       Swiftness         |       |       |       |       |       |     3 |     3 |     2 |    87 ||    95
       Fire Brand        |       |       |       |       |       |     1 |       |       |       ||     1
       Blink             |       |       |       |       |       |       |     1 |       |     3 ||     4
       Control Teleport  |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |    14 ||    14
       Haste             |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |   137 ||   137
       Flight            |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |    13 ||    13
       Apportation       |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |     2 ||     2
Invok: Heroism           |       |       |     1 |    12 |    25 |    12 |    37 |    22 |    22 ||   131
       Finesse           |       |       |       |       |       |     1 |     5 |     3 |    16 ||    25
       Cleansing Flame   |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |   127 ||   127
       Summon Divine War |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |    28 ||    28
       Divine Shield     |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |     8 ||     8
       Vitalisation      |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |     2 ||     2
       Cure All Mutation |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |     1 ||     1
 Abil: Evoke Levitation  |       |       |       |       |       |     6 |     5 |     1 |    17 ||    29
       Stop Levitating   |       |       |       |       |       |     5 |     6 |       |    13 ||    24
Evoke: Wand              |       |       |     4 |    16 |     5 |    12 |    22 |    34 |   155 ||   248
       Rod               |       |       |       |       |       |       |    14 |     9 |    18 ||    41
       Miscellaneous     |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |     1 ||     1
  Use: Scroll            |     6 |     2 |     3 |    24 |    12 |    28 |    27 |    16 |   113 ||   231
       Potion            |       |     3 |     4 |     8 |    13 |    11 |     8 |    11 |    58 ||   116

Vault maps used:

D:1:
  minmay_entry_diagonal_passages

D:2:
  uniq_crazy_yiuf_cottage

D:3:
  serial_bayou_shore_a, overflow_temple_1_default, serial_corexii_hall,
  corexii_hall_statues_x, corexii_hall_statues_deadend, uniq_iyjb, uniq_terence

D:4:
  first_bread, hex_intersection, minivault_1, fedhas_bush_and_centaur_altar,
  minmay_temple_entry_junction2, uniq_blork_the_orc

D:6:
  special_room, dk_xom_monty_hall, uniq_duvessa

D:7:
  bailey_entry_dummy, orc_0_dummy

D:8:
  serial_shops, shop, special_room, minmay_lair_entry_grove

D:9:
  infiniplex_staircase_zigzag_1, serial_bayou_crossing, uniq_edmund,
  uniq_joseph, uniq_eustachio, uniq_prince_ribbit1, uniq_erolcha

D:10:
  uniq_josephine, uniq_maurice, uniq_urug

D:12:
  serial_shops, shop, uniq_nessos, uniq_gastronok_1

D:13:
  hourglass_vault

D:14:
  david_nohive_1, corexii_hall_statues_l, elves_outpost_lemuel, david_vaults_2

D:15:
  evilmike_boring_beetle, serial_shops, shop, lemuel_flame_loot_1

D:17:
  serial_undead, serial_undead_f, serial_undead_f, serial_undead_e,
  serial_undead_e, serial_undead_a, serial_undead_a, serial_undead_d,
  serial_undead_e, special_room, einodemon_rotting_minivault

D:18:
  uniq_kirke

D:19:
  infiniplex_staircase_squiggle, serial_glass, glass_columns_a, glass_columns_a,
  glass_columns_b, glass_columns_a, abandoned_shop, roderic_nine_men_s_morris

D:20:
  minmay_misc_feat_hallway, due_unseen_surprise

D:21:
  hell_entry

D:22:
  vault_1, hell_entry, abyss_entry

D:23:
  box_level_dp, hell_entry, serial_shops

D:24:
  hangedman_cross_stitches, hell_entry, pan_entry, enter_ziggurat_b, uniq_boris

D:25:
  hangedman_arrow_trap, abyss_entry, enter_wizlab_4, hell_entry, serial_shops,
  shop

D:26:
  lemuel_traditional_vault, abyss_entry, hell_entry, hex_large

D:27:
  nooodl_heptagram, abyss_entry, hell_entry, basic_altar, serial_shops, shop,
  shop, shop, evilmike_zot_entry_basic

Temple:
  water_room_temple_a_12

Orc:1:
  serial_shops, shop, secret_library_closet

Orc:2:
  basic_altar

Orc:3:
  serial_shops, shop, nicolae_orc_accident_2

Orc:4:
  st_orc_ogre_mass, minmay_orc_barracks, uniq_donald

Elf:1:
  baited_tele_trap, due_chaos_kobolds

Elf:2:
  nrook_uturn, uniq_norris

Elf:3:
  elf_hall_gauntlet_wide, serial_shops, shop, minmay_elf_blademastery,
  uniq_roxanne, uniq_saint_roka

Lair:1:
  good_gods_temple_1

Lair:2:
  dragon1_lemuel

Lair:3:
  serial_pond, minmay_pond_plants_o, minmay_pond_plants_y

Lair:4:
  portal_ice_cave_entry_animals_and_master, minmay_swamp_entry_reptiles

Lair:5:
  serial_bayou_ford_a, hibernation_bobbens, uniq_harold, uniq_fannar

Lair:6:
  minivault_11, slime_dummy

Lair:7:
  enter_volcano_2, kilobyte_rumbling_trees

Lair:8:
  kennels, wormcave

Swamp:1:
  swamp_pool5

Swamp:2:
  swamp_pool3, roderic_carrion_pond

Swamp:3:
  swamp_pool2

Swamp:4:
  swamp_pool3, tengu_band

Swamp:5:
  swamp_vile, swamp_pool4

Snake:1:
  uniq_louise

Snake:2:
  special_room, serial_shops, shop, serial_bayou_lagoon_a

Snake:3:
  spider_trap, serial_bayou_pond_d, serial_bayou_pond_e,
  fake_guardian_serpent_vault

Snake:4:
  serial_bayou_pond_e, spider_trap

Snake:5:
  snake_pit, basic_altar, nrook_guardian_serpent_ordinary, uniq_aizul

Slime:2:
  uniq_dissolution

Vaults:1:
  minmay_variable_closet, lemuel_freeze_stairs_1

Vaults:2:
  serial_glass, serial_shops, shop, basic_altar, lemuel_flamethrower_2,
  uniq_snorg, uniq_agnes

Vaults:3:
  serial_shops, shop, hangedman_glaring_trap, minmay_crypt_entry_nasty_monster,
  uniq_nikola

Vaults:5:
  serial_shops, shop, shop, shop_fountains, shop, shop, dk_crumbling_2,
  uniq_frances, uniq_frederick

Vaults:6:
  secret_library_closet, lemuel_coloured_pillars_altar, uniq_margery, uniq_mara

Vaults:7:
  serial_shops, shop

Vaults:8:
  uniq_xtahua

Crypt:1:
  lemuel_hidden_altar

Crypt:2:
  special_room, uniq_wiglaf

Crypt:3:
  mu_ancient_champions

Crypt:4:
  crypt_curse_skull

Crypt:5:
  cryptofortress_bobbens

Tomb:1:
  special_room

Tomb:2:
  special_room

Dis:2:
  minivault_9

Dis:4:
  minivault_9

Dis:6:
  grunt_dis_stairs_iron_hall

Dis:7:
  iron_city_of_dis

Geh:7:
  geh_old

Coc:1:
  special_room

Coc:7:
  coc_old

Tar:3:
  evilmike_ambush

Tar:4:
  lemuel_nasty_pond

Tar:6:
  evilmike_ambush, lemuel_elevator

Tar:7:
  tar_minmay_river

Zot:3:
  lemuel_elevator

Abyss:
  evilmike_abyss_exit_15, minivault_28, evilmike_abyss_rune_tso_outpost,
  hangedman_abyss_overflow_altar, abyss_fake_rune, evilmike_abyss_exit_12,
  bmh_abyss_xom_lugonu_altar, hangedman_abyss_sting, minivault_20

Pan:
  evilmike_mini_pan_branches, evilmike_mini_pan_3x3, evilmike_gloorx_vloq_box,
  enter_ziggurat_pan_a, rand_demon_3, lemuel_hall_of_pain,
  pan_blood_fountain_small, evilmike_mini_pan_layers, pan_blood_fountain_2,
  rand_demon_3, evilmike_mini_pan_murderfest, pan_blood_fountain_small,
  lom_lobon_st, evilmike_mini_pan_corridor, evilmike_mini_pan_secret_b,
  uniq_ignacio, evilmike_mini_pan_pillars, pan_blood_fountain,
  pan_blood_fountain_small, rand_demon_2, rand_demon_6, pan_blood_fountain,
  enter_ziggurat_pan_d, pan_blood_fountain_small, evilmike_mini_pan_layers,
  enter_ziggurat_pan_c, evilmike_mini_pan_thingy,
  evilmike_mini_pan_other_thingy, evilmike_mini_pan_other_thingy,
  pan_blood_fountain, rand_demon_7, pan_blood_fountain_small,
  pan_captured_pigsty, evilmike_mini_pan_possible_glass, rand_demon_3,
  evilmike_mini_pan_secret_b, cerebov, evilmike_mini_pan_diamond, rand_demon_2,
  pan_blood_fountain_2, rand_demon_2, evilmike_mini_pan_pillars, rand_demon_8,
  evilmike_mini_pan_rooms, pan_blood_fountain, rand_demon_7, rand_demon_4,
  pan_blood_fountain_2, evilmike_mini_pan_branches, rand_demon_4, mnoleg,
  pan_blood_fountain_small, evilmike_mini_pan_branches, rand_demon_5,
  rand_demon_8, enter_ziggurat_pan_c, rand_demon_9

Zig:6:
  ziggurat_pillar_centre_d

Zig:7:
  ziggurat_pillar_centre_e

Zig:8:
  ziggurat_loot_2

Zig:9:
  ziggurat_pillar_centre_c

Zig:10:
  ziggurat_pillar_centre_h

Zig:11:
  ziggurat_pillar_centre_a

Zig:12:
  ziggurat_pillar_centre_b

Zig:13:
  ziggurat_pillar_centre_j

Bailey:
  bailey_axe_3, bailey

WizLab:
  wizlab_cigotuvi


[Xoai]

this is extremely relevant to my current build. would you mind outlining your god choice path for me? I'm just about to finish vault:5 with Oka, and wondering who to switch to next. A holy bardiche will fit nicely with my 26 polearms skill, so i think i'm in a very similar boat. why zin, then TSO... did you use zin for hell first, then TSO for pan?... did you use crypt to build piety for zin, or save it for TSO? etc, etc, etc??? im a MfGl btw

Edit: followed the link for full dump. looks like you only did zin to cure mutations... is that right? is there special benifit to doing cocytus under zin? remembered that zin wants money, not undead kills, so stupid question about crypt - and answerd by milestones - but makes me wonder why you went straight there and the rest of hell later if all you needed was to pay for some cure mut....?

[Psieye]

You go Zin to cleanse yourself of mutations. He's the backup plan for "if you got truly messed up before you found that rMut, pay this guy thousands of gold and he'll cure it for you... but only once". You then immediately switch to TSO without having ever killed anything as you got what you came for. Provided you are rich, Zin piety is the easiest to get: just do some stash management for a while and you'll be at 6* if you paid enough at the altar.

By the way, there is no Zin piety to get from doing Crypt. He only cares for chaotic mob kills, not evil mob kills. TSO is easy mode but it's not unthinkable to go TSO (get holy weapon) -> Zin and then start Abyss/Pan/Hell.

[Xoai]

didn't refresh either... my question about cocytus still stands though... is zin the best in hell? because i wouldn't mind TSO for crypt, abyss rune, pan scumming/hopefully no early rune levels i might have to miss out on, and then tomb with rn+++ and angel summons... then back to pan for rest of runes... then zin for slime and hells last... does that sound viable/not-suboptimal?

[Psieye]

Why leave Slime that late? Do slime first then switch to Zin and get any mutations cleansed. By the time you're prepping up to do Pan, Slime is easy. Basically if you can do Vaults:end, you can do Slime provided you meet the pre-requisite amulets (rCorr and rMut). You can still do them without those pre-requisite amulets but then you're constrained to specific play styles.

Zin can nullify hell effects. TSO just lets you overpower them if you keep an army around - easy enough provided you can kill torment/hellfire spam fast, which again TSO helps out with if you get close enough to spam cleansing flame. Just stick with TSO for the whole of extended. There's nothing wrong with switching to Zin just for Hells but you're really over-reacting if you take him JUST to avoid hell effects and mutations.

[BlackSheep]

I'm guessing the intention was to leverage Zin's mutation resistance in Slime.

[drag0n]

I'm guessing the intention was to leverage Zin's mutation resistance in Slime.

Actually I meant to do Slime before I converted, I just forgot! But as you point out, the mutation resistance was very useful (and at that point I could cast haste, which is similar to finesse). My other mistake was that I wore an amulet of conservation (instead of resist corrosion) so my boots of running got damaged (down to -4).

[drag0n]

this is extremely relevant to my current build. would you mind outlining your god choice path for me?

Here's what happened: As you deduced, I switched to Zin to cure my mutations. I donated a bunch of gold, but my piety wasn't high enough so I went into the Abyss to kill chaotic monsters (and find the rune). Then I realized I had skipped Slime, so I did that. Then I thought I should do a hell branch to take advantage of Zin's protection. At that point my bardiche was flaming, so I did Cocytus (since Antaeus and ice fiends are susceptible to fire). Unfortunately I couldn't kill Antaeus, but I did grab the rune. I didn't feel strong, so I switched to TSO, cleared the crypt to build piety, and blessed my bardiche (which was +8 at this point). Then I cleared Pan, Dis, Tartar Sauce, and I went back to Cocytus to kill Antaeus (which was easy at this point). Then I almost died on the first floor of the Tomb (there were an amazing number of mummies gathered together on the first floor).

I always do Tomb last since I lose so much HP to rot, but I just learned that Elyvilon can cure rot (thank you luis21) so maybe next time I'll do the Tomb earlier and convert (since there's so much good loot in there).

[Xoai]

I always do Tomb last since I lose so much HP to rot, but I just learned that Elyvilon can cure rot (thank you luis21) so maybe next time I'll do the Tomb earlier and convert (since there's so much good loot in there).

Hmmmm.... more food for thought. I need loot bad!! Oka thinks my +6 MDA needs replacing, so he pretty exclusively gifts me randart chainmails now. So frustrating. I might go straight to tomb after maxing TSO piety. Hopefully he can get me through tomb super early, and then I'll switch to zin for hells, pan, and slime. Does recall work on summoned angels? thinking of memorizing that. Just did a bunch of reading on TSO and zin, and it looks like TSO is the best choice for tomb and pan. I think I'll do that and then slime (wouldn't mind angels next to the royal jelly while i spam cleansing flame, but don't want to have a bunch of bad muts before pan/changing to zin), and then zin last for hell. A quick Ely switch if tomb rots me bad won't matter eaither. I'm excited about having so many different gods, yet only getting divine wrath from 1. I guess I'll finish D:21-27 first to see if Oka can get it together with some decent gifts.
thanks drag0n