CIP: DEAE with wacky equipment needs guidance

Friday, 31st August 2012, 14:53 by XuaXua

Deep Elf Air Elementalist.

Playing it broadly and was intending to go Nemelex.

Found...
lots of Necromantic Spells
Staff of Fire
HALBERD OF PAIN (-3 aptitude, really????)
6 EW I scrolls
2 ENCHANT ARMOUR SCROLLS
and am now standing on a Gold Dragon Hide, clutching my DAGGER of PROTECTION.

What the friggity f. I'm sure this will all be nice and good for Nemelex sacrifices, but really.

My character is way too young for this sort of pressure. Plus I should upgrade my deployment to take advantage of the cheapened Spellcasting leveling.

Advice requested. Haven't found the Temple yet.

Code:: Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.12-a0-205-gc1fbd6f (tiles) character file. XuaXua the Magician (Deep Elf Air Elementalist) Turns: 6427, Time: 00:35:41 HP 41/41 AC 4 Str 6 XL: 8 Next: 78% MP 25/25 EV 13 Int 22 God: Gold 333 SH 0 Dex 15 Spells: 9 memorised, 0 levels left Res.Fire : . . . See Invis. : . (no weapon) Res.Cold : . . . Warding : . a - +0 elf robe Life Prot.: . . . Conserve : . (no shield) Res.Poison: . Res.Corr. : . (no helmet) Res.Elec. : . Clarity : . L - +0 cloak Sust.Abil.: + . Spirit.Shd : . w - +0 pair of gauntlets Res.Mut. : . Stasis : . (no boots) Res.Rott. : . Ctrl.Telep.: . (no amulet) Saprovore : . . . Levitation : . (no ring) Ctrl.Flight: . r - ring of sustain abilities @: burdened, slow, somewhat resistant to hostile enchantments, unstealthy A: no striking features a: no special abilities Skills: + Level 0.6 Fighting + Level 0.7 Staves + Level 2.9 Dodging + Level 3.1 Stealth + Level 1.4 Traps & Doors * Level 6.7 Spellcasting + Level 3.1 Conjurations + Level 3.8 Charms + Level 3.1 Necromancy + Level 2.9 Translocations + Level 2.6 Fire Magic * Level 6.4 Air Magic + Level 3.2 Evocations You cannot memorise any spells. You know the following spells: Your Spells Type Power Failure Level Hunger a - Sublimation of Blood Necr ####...... 4% 2 None e - Blink Tloc N/A 4% 2 None f - Flight Chrm/Air #####..... 3% 3 #...... l - Slow Hex ##....... 14% 2 None q - Swiftness Chrm/Air #####..... 1% 2 None s - Conjure Flame Conj/Fire ####..... 10% 3 #...... w - Repel Missiles Chrm/Air #####..... 1% 2 None x - Static Discharge Conj/Air #####.... 4% 3 #...... z - Shock Conj/Air ##### 1% 1 None Action | 1- 3 | 4- 6 | 7- 9 || total -------------------------+-------+-------+-------++------- Melee: Unarmed | 6 | | || 6 Dagger | | 3 | || 3 Fire: Blowgun | | | 2 || 2 Throw: Throwing net | 1 | | || 1 Cast: Shock | 91 | 116 | 214 || 421 Sublimation of Bl | | 5 | 9 || 14 Static Discharge | | 4 | 36 || 40 Swiftness | | 2 | || 2 Repel Missiles | | | 1 || 1 Flight | | | 2 || 2 Evoke: Wand | | 1 | 5 || 6 Use: Potion | 3 | 2 | 1 || 6 Scroll | | 4 | 6 || 10 Inventory: Hand weapons t - an uncursed halberd of pain y - an uncursed dagger of venom B - an uncursed orcish trident of dragon slaying H - an uncursed blowgun I - the cursed -1,-2 whip of Cheibriados' Delight {slash, rC+ MR} (You found it on level 5 of the Dungeon) It inflicts extra damage upon your enemies. It protects you from cold. It increases your resistance to enchantments. It has a curse placed upon it. J - an uncursed dagger of protection Missiles d - 35 poisoned needles e - a throwing net [torn] (quivered) i - 22 darts of flame A - 4 poisoned darts F - 5 curare-tipped needles Armour a - a +0 elven robe (worn) j - a +0 cloak w - a +0 pair of gauntlets (worn) L - a +0 cloak (worn) Magical devices s - a wand of frost {zapped: 6} Comestibles c - 4 bread rations g - 3 apples l - 2 pears v - 3 meat rations G - 10 sultanas Scrolls f - 5 scrolls of remove curse k - a scroll labeled THRIHY ZOTU n - 6 scrolls of enchant weapon I p - 5 scrolls of teleportation q - 2 scrolls of enchant armour D - a scroll of amnesia E - a scroll labeled PRIZESTR APELI Jewellery r - a ring of sustain abilities (left hand) u - an uncursed ring of ice Potions h - a potion of restore abilities m - a potion of curing K - 2 potions of heal wounds Books b - a book of Air Spells Type Level *Shock Conjuration/Air 1 *Swiftness Charms/Air 2 *Repel Missiles Charms/Air 2 *Flight Charms/Air 3 *Static Discharge Conjuration/Air 3 Lightning Bolt Conjuration/Air 5 o - a book of Death Spells Type Level Corpse Rot Necromancy 2 *Sublimation of Blood Necromancy 2 Agony Necromancy 5 Dispel Undead Necromancy 5 Excruciating Wounds Charms/Necromancy 5 Bolt of Draining Conjuration/Necromancy 6 x - a book of Minor Magic Spells Type Level Magic Dart Conjuration 1 *Blink Translocation 2 Call Imp Summoning 2 *Repel Missiles Charms/Air 2 *Slow Hexes 2 *Conjure Flame Conjuration/Fire 3 Mephitic Cloud Conjuration/Poison/Air 3 Magical staves z - an uncursed staff of fire Action | 1- 3 | 4- 6 | 7- 9 || total -------------------------+-------+-------+-------++------- Melee: Unarmed | 6 | | || 6 Dagger | | 3 | || 3 Fire: Blowgun | | | 2 || 2 Throw: Throwing net | 1 | | || 1 Cast: Shock | 91 | 116 | 214 || 421 Sublimation of Bl | | 5 | 9 || 14 Static Discharge | | 4 | 36 || 40 Swiftness | | 2 | || 2 Repel Missiles | | | 1 || 1 Flight | | | 2 || 2 Evoke: Wand | | 1 | 5 || 6 Use: Potion | 3 | 2 | 1 || 6 Scroll | | 4 | 6 || 10 Table legend: A = Turns spent in this place as a percentage of turns spent in the entire game. B = Non-inter-level travel turns spent in this place as a percentage of non-inter-level travel turns spent in the entire game. C = Inter-level travel turns spent in this place as a percentage of turns spent in this place. D = Turns resting spent in this place as a percentage of non-inter-level travel turns spent in this place. E = Turns spent auto-exploring this place as a percentage of non-inter-level travel turns spent in this place. F = Non-inter-level travel turns spent in this place divided by the number of levels of this place that you've seen. A B C D E F +-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+---------------------- Total | 100.0 | 100.0 | 10.3 | 4.0 | 14.8 | 238.2 Dungeon | 100.0 | 100.0 | 10.3 | 4.0 | 14.8 | 238.2 +-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+---------------------- Table legend: A = Kills in this place as a percentage of kills in entire the game. B = Kills by you in this place as a percentage of kills by you in the entire game. C = Kills by friends in this place as a percentage of kills by friends in the entire game. D = Other kills in this place as a percentage of other kills in the entire game. E = Experience gained in this place as a percentage of experience gained in the entire game. F = Experience gained in this place divided by the number of levels of this place that you have seen. A B C D E F +-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+---------------------- Total | 100.0 | 100.0 | N/A | N/A | 100.0 | 412.2 Dungeon | 100.0 | 100.0 | N/A | N/A | 100.0 | 412.2 +-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+---------------------- You are on level 6 of the Dungeon. You are encumbered. You are not hungry. You have visited 1 branch of the dungeon, and seen 6 of its levels. You have collected 313 gold pieces. There are no monsters in sight! # #..########.#.......#.. # #...........#..<....#.. # #.....###'#.#.......#.. # #.....#...# #.......#.. # #.....#...# #.......#<. #######.....#...# #.......#.. ............#...#.#.......#.. ............#...#.#.......... ............#...#.######..... ............#...+... ........ ###########.#.@.#..#####..... # #.#...#..# ###... # #.#####..# ##.. # #........# #.. # #........# #.. # #........# #.. # #........########.. # #.................. ###########.................. ............................. Message History Confirm with . or Enter, or press ? or * to list all spells. Your possessions no longer seem quite so burdensome. You fly up into the air. HP restored. Magic restored. You are starting to lose your buoyancy. You reach down and open the door. Found a gold dragon hide. There is an open door here. Unknown command. You float gracefully downwards. You are being weighed down by all of your possessions. K - 2 blue potions (gained 1) You see here a gold dragon hide. You can't carry that much weight. Identify which item? (? for menu, Esc to quit) As you read the scroll of identify, it crumbles to dust. K - 2 potions of heal wounds Identify which item? (? for menu, Esc to quit) As you read the scroll of identify, it crumbles to dust. D - a scroll of amnesia Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations Branches: Dungeon (6/27) Temple: D:4-7 Orc: D:6-11 Altars: Fedhas Shops: D:4: / Notes Turn | Place | Note -------------------------------------------------------------- 0 | D:1 | XuaXua, the Deep Elf Air Elementalist, began the quest for the Orb. 0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 1. HP: 10/10 MP: 4/4 213 | D:1 | Reached skill level 4 in Air Magic 213 | D:1 | Reached XP level 2. HP: 15/15 MP: 3/6 528 | D:1 | Reached XP level 3. HP: 15/19 MP: 1/9 919 | D:2 | Reached skill level 5 in Air Magic 1005 | D:3 | Learned a level 2 spell: Swiftness 1008 | D:3 | Learned a level 2 spell: Repel Missiles 1227 | D:3 | Reached XP level 4. HP: 21/24 MP: 7/12 2162 | D:3 | Learned a level 3 spell: Static Discharge 2165 | D:3 | Learned a level 2 spell: Sublimation of Blood 2193 | D:4 | Reached XP level 5. HP: 28/28 MP: 14/18 2249 | D:4 | Found Huocu's Magical Wand Shop. 2267 | D:4 | Reached skill level 5 in Spellcasting 2267 | D:4 | Reached skill level 1 in Necromancy 2287 | D:4 | Learned a level 2 spell: Blink 2374 | D:4 | Noticed an ogre 2380 | D:4 | Killed an ogre 2380 | D:4 | Reached skill level 1 in Charms 2380 | D:4 | Reached skill level 1 in Translocations 2380 | D:4 | Reached skill level 1 in Evocations 2380 | D:4 | Reached XP level 6. HP: 27/32 MP: 12/20 2477 | D:4 | Noticed an orc warrior 2554 | D:4 | Killed an orc warrior 3205 | D:4 | Reached XP level 7. HP: 23/36 MP: 12/22 3254 | D:4 | Learned a level 3 spell: Conjure Flame 3332 | D:4 | Learned a level 2 spell: Slow 3365 | D:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon 3735 | D:5 | Reached skill level 1 in Fire Magic 3796 | D:5 | Reached skill level 6 in Spellcasting 3916 | D:5 | Reached skill level 1 in Traps & Doors 3984 | D:5 | Got a dazzling whip 3985 | D:5 | Identified the cursed -1,-2 whip of Cheibriados' Delight (You found it on level 5 of the Dungeon) 4467 | D:5 | Reached XP level 8. HP: 35/41 MP: 13/24 5181 | D:2 | Found a blossoming altar of Fedhas. 6087 | D:6 | Learned a level 3 spell: Flight Vanquished Creatures 2 orc warriors A sky beast (D:5) 2 ogres 5 big kobolds (D:5) A goliath beetle (D:6) 2 crimson imps A hound zombie (D:5) 4 orc priests 5 hounds A scorpion (D:6) 5 orc wizards 2 worker ants 8 adders 6 gnolls An adder skeleton (D:5) A giant mite (D:2) 2 worms (D:6) A giant eyeball (D:6) 5 giant geckos An ooze (D:1) 22 orcs A ball python (D:1) 4 giant cockroaches 17 hobgoblins 2 jackals (D:2) 46 kobolds 4 quokkas 14 bats 3 giant newts (D:1) 7 goblins An orc skeleton (D:4) An orc zombie (D:6) 7 rats 3 toadstools (D:4) 188 creatures vanquished. Vanquished Creatures (others) 13 toadstools 13 creatures vanquished. Grand Total: 201 creatures vanquished

Friday, 31st August 2012, 20:07 by rchandra

I would go with staff of fire -> Sif Muna, becoming a FE. There's more or less no way to use the GDA other than nemelex (or Cheibriados, eventually - that could be amusing). Halberd will take forever at -3 to become reasonably quick.

Friday, 31st August 2012, 22:05 by One-Eyed Jack

You memorized slow and not mephitic cloud? With swiftness in your starting book? Is this some sort of joke?

If you want to play a melee hybrid you could eventually work towards the halberd but that's probably a bad idea because of the xp requirement, both in polearms and in necromancy (you also lose a shield which is handy for early/midgame on frail characters.) A better option is probably to use an enhancer stave, such as the one you already have. Learn IMB or stone arrow or something for things with rf.

Nemelex is basically always a strong god. He has some synergy with staff-based combat, as well, because his abilities uses evocations, which provide a nice benefit. Carrying numerous decks would probably be a pain, though, with De's strengh. De also have very low hp so melee will be difficult.

If you want to be a mostly-caster, which is probably easier, Vehumet would also be a powerful god (and he guarantees his super-fireballs in his second book), as would sif muna. Worshipping vehumet then training fire magic a lot will allow you to have a strong back-up melee attack (the staff) and also have very powerful fireballs (and fire storm eventually.) I like sif muna more usually but she's probably less immediately powerful. Lightning bolt should see you through lair, however.

My rough skill order would be:
Hybrid: Mephitic cloud->lightning bolt->8 staves->8ish evocations->10 fire->some dodging/fighting->14ish evocation(if nemelex)->Agony/Dispel Undead->more fire/t&d/evocation/whatever spells you find
Caster: Metphitic cloud->lightning bolt->conjurations/spellcasting->fireball or other gifted/found conjuration->Agony/Dispel Undead->some fighting/t&d/whatever spells you find

Probably I would memorize mephitic then burn minor wizardry to forget slow.

Sunday, 2nd September 2012, 04:32 by XuaXua

One-Eyed Jack wrote:You memorized slow and not mephitic cloud? With swiftness in your starting book? Is this some sort of joke?

It was kneejerk keypresses as I'd been playing Fire Elementalists up till that point, and had fun with Slow + Inner Flame.

Anyway, next card with a legendary Experience I pounded into Spellcasting, so Meph was one of many spells I soon had.

Died to a severely hostile Red Wasp swarm from a bad Summoning Deck card pull in Lair.

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