CiP: HaHu of Oku

Wednesday, 29th August 2012, 11:25 by lifecoder

Yet another couple of stupid death (including nice naga with 3 runes killed by teleportisis with low health), and now I'm going into another tipycal character.

I'm in the D:14, and need an idea on what to do next. Here is the dump:

Code:: Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.10.3-5-gf0cc9df character file. Kazri the Slingshot (Halfling Hunter) Turns: 19131, Time: 01:58:40 HP 84/84 AC 11 Str 12 XL: 13 Next: 31% MP 22/22 EV 26 Int 11 (13) God: Okawaru [*****.] Gold 1210 SH 27 Dex 22 Spells: 0 memorised, 12 levels left Res.Fire : . . . See Invis. : . D - +3,+4 sling (frost) Res.Cold : . . . Warding : . . c - +3 elf leather armour Life Prot.: . . . Conserve : . U - +3 dwarf shield {AC+3} Res.Acid. : . . . Res.Corr. : . (no helmet) Res.Poison: . Clarity : . k - +0 orc cloak Res.Elec. : + Spirit.Shd : . (no gloves) Sust.Abil.: . . Stasis : . M - +0 pair of boots Res.Mut. : . Ctrl.Telep.: . (no amulet) Res.Rott. : . Levitation : . o - +2 ring of evasion Saprovore : . . . Ctrl.Flight: . K - ring "Poto" {Str+3 Int+2} @: somewhat resistant to hostile enchantments, fairly stealthy A: mutation resistance 1, electricity resistance, slow metabolism 1 a: Heroism, Finesse, Renounce Religion You are on level 14 of the Dungeon. You worship Okawaru. Okawaru is exalted by your worship. You are hungry. You have visited 3 branches of the dungeon, and seen 18 of its levels. You have collected 1238 gold pieces. You have spent 48 gold pieces at shops. Inventory: Hand weapons b - a +0,+0 sling D - a +3,+4 sling of frost (weapon) G - a +9,+0 sling of flame {god gift} I - a -1,+0 orcish dagger Missiles e - 5 +4 sling bullets g - a +0 stone z - 14 silver +3 sling bullets {god gift} A - 16 poisoned +2 sling bullets E - 9 poisoned +3 sling bullets {god gift} H - 40 steel +4 sling bullets {god gift} P - 13 +0 sling bullets (quivered) Armour c - a +3 elven leather armour (worn) k - a +0 orcish cloak (worn) M - a +0 pair of boots (worn) U - a +3 dwarven shield of protection (worn) Magical devices d - a wand of fire {zapped: 5} n - a lead wand p - a wand of lightning (9) C - a runed copper wand {tried by monster} N - a bronze wand O - a wooden wand X - a forked bone wand Comestibles f - 3 bread rations Y - a meat ration Scrolls a - a scroll of enchant weapon II h - 6 scrolls of remove curse i - 3 scrolls of blinking l - 6 scrolls of detect curse r - a scroll of recharging x - 3 scrolls of teleportation y - 2 scrolls of magic mapping B - 5 scrolls of fear L - 2 scrolls of enchant weapon I Jewellery j - a shiny golden ring o - a +2 ring of evasion (right hand) t - an uncursed ring of protection from fire v - a ring of intelligence F - an uncursed ring of sustain abilities J - a +1 ring of intelligence K - the ring "Poto" (left hand) {Str+3 Int+2} (You found it on level 10 of the Dungeon) [ring of intelligence] It affects your intelligence (+2). It affects your strength (+3). Q - an uncursed ring of magical power V - a +2 ring of strength Potions m - a potion of invisibility q - 2 potions of heal wounds s - 2 potions of might u - a potion of berserk rage w - 6 potions of curing R - 2 potions of speed Z - a potion of restore abilities Skills: - Level 7,7 Fighting - Level 0,1 Maces & Flails - Level 22,1 Slings - Level 12,0 Dodging - Level 1,3 Stealth * Level 7,0 Shields - Level 7,0 Invocations You have 12 spell levels left. You don't know any spells. Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations Branches: Dungeon (15/27) Temple (1/1) D:6 Orc (0/4) D:11 Lair (2/8) D:10 Vault (0/8) D:14 Swamp: Lair:2-5 Altars: Ashenzari Cheibriados Fedhas Kikubaaqudgha Makhleb Okawaru Sif Muna Trog Vehumet Xom Yredelemnul Zin Shops: D:5: (( D:9: * Annotations D:6 Electric eels, return later D:9 Nice ring +1 to all, 536 Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations You are small and have problems with some larger weapons. You are somewhat resistant to further mutation. You have a slow metabolism. You are resistant to electric shocks. Message History The worker ant corpse is consumed by flame. Okawaru is exalted by your worship. Eat which item? (? for menu, Esc to quit) You continue eating. You finish eating. That choko was very bland. P - 13 +0 sling bullets (gained 1) Found 30 runed arrows. You see here 30 runed arrows. There is an escape hatch in the floor here. Key pressed, stopping explore. You are feeling hungry. Search for what [Enter for "scroll", or ? for help]? bullet Search for what [Enter for "bullet", or ? for help]? stone You feel your dexterity returning. Move the cursor to view the level map, or type ? for a list of commands. Returning to the game... Done exploring. Done exploring. Use which ability? (? or * to list) Okay, then. ###..###.###.#.....#.# #.........##.###.#.#.# ####)####.##.# #.#.#.# #.........##.# #.#.#.# #.##.#######.# #.#.#.# #.##.# #.# #.#.#.# #.##.## #.# #.#.#.# #.....# #.###.#.#.## #.##### #.....#....# #.# #@########## ### ### There are no monsters in sight! Notes Turn | Place | Note -------------------------------------------------------------- 0 | D:1 | Kazri, the Halfling Hunter, began the quest for the Orb. 0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 1. HP: 14/14 MP: 0/0 53 | D:1 | Reached skill level 6 in Slings 259 | D:1 | Reached XP level 2. HP: 6/19 MP: 1/1 787 | D:1 | Reached skill level 7 in Slings 918 | D:1 | Reached XP level 3. HP: 24/24 MP: 2/2 1621 | D:2 | HP: 1/24 [poisoned by a kobold] 1629 | D:2 | HP: 1/24 [poisoned by a kobold] 2084 | D:2 | Reached XP level 4. HP: 22/29 MP: 3/3 2298 | D:2 | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging 3007 | D:3 | Reached XP level 5. HP: 34/34 MP: 4/4 3182 | D:3 | Reached skill level 8 in Slings 3590 | D:4 | Reached XP level 6. HP: 39/39 MP: 5/5 3781 | D:4 | Reached skill level 9 in Slings 3882 | D:4 | Noticed Ijyb 3895 | D:4 | Killed Ijyb 4299 | D:4 | Reached XP level 7. HP: 44/44 MP: 6/6 4423 | D:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon 4489 | D:5 | Reached skill level 10 in Slings 4522 | D:5 | Found Ruabua's Weapon Shop. 4531 | D:5 | Bought 40 +0 stones for 48 gold pieces 4721 | D:5 | Reached skill level 11 in Slings 4779 | D:5 | Found Wiatt's Weapon Boutique. 4895 | D:5 | Found a deep blue altar of Sif Muna. 5439 | D:6 | Reached XP level 8. HP: 49/49 MP: 7/7 5555 | D:6 | Reached skill level 12 in Slings 5583 | D:6 | Found a basalt altar of Yredelemnul. 5616 | D:6 | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple. 5634 | Temple | Entered the Ecumenical Temple 5651 | Temple | Became a worshipper of Warmaster Okawaru 5795 | D:6 | Reached skill level 1 in Shields 6002 | D:6 | Acquired Okawaru's first power 6074 | D:6 | Noticed Sigmund 6084 | D:6 | Killed Sigmund 6151 | D:6 | Reached skill level 13 in Slings 6444 | D:6 | Reached XP level 9. HP: 34/54 MP: 8/8 6746 | D:6 | Noticed Prince Ribbit 6760 | D:6 | Killed Prince Ribbit 6796 | D:6 | Reached skill level 14 in Slings 7777 | D:7 | Noticed Edmund 7791 | D:7 | Killed Edmund 7988 | D:7 | Found a deep blue altar of Sif Muna. 8065 | D:8 | Found a burning altar of Makhleb. 8141 | D:8 | Reached skill level 15 in Slings 8357 | D:8 | Reached skill level 1 in Invocations 8397 | D:8 | Gained mutation: You are resistant to electric shocks. 8417 | D:8 | Reached XP level 10. HP: 53/60 MP: 10/10 8531 | D:8 | Reached skill level 5 in Shields 8553 | D:8 | Found a sand-covered staircase. 8963 | D:6 | HP: 3/60 [poisoned by a gnoll sergeant] 9377 | D:7 | Noticed Duvessa 9384 | D:7 | Killed Duvessa 9384 | D:7 | Reached skill level 16 in Slings 9394 | D:7 | Noticed Dowan 9405 | D:7 | Killed Dowan 9444 | D:7 | HP: 2/60 [wight/glowing battleaxe (7)] 10478 | D:9 | Reached skill level 17 in Slings 10481 | D:9 | Received a gift from Okawaru 10486 | D:9 | Found Kluzia Skoi's General Store. 10753 | D:9 | Reached skill level 1 in Fighting 10787 | D:9 | Received a gift from Okawaru 10934 | D:9 | Found a deep blue altar of Sif Muna. 11307 | D:9 | Received a gift from Okawaru 11598 | D:9 | Acquired Okawaru's second power 11616 | D:9 | Reached XP level 11. HP: 69/69 MP: 12/12 11713 | D:10 | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon 11801 | D:10 | Got a smoking golden ring 11816 | D:10 | Identified the ring "Poto" (You found it on level 10 of the Dungeon) 11913 | D:10 | Found a staircase to the Lair. 11984 | D:10 | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting 12674 | D:11 | Received a gift from Okawaru 12949 | D:11 | Noticed Gastronok 12970 | D:11 | Killed Gastronok 12970 | D:11 | Reached skill level 10 in Dodging 13115 | Lair:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts 13480 | Lair:1 | Reached XP level 12. HP: 64/79 MP: 13/13 14081 | D:11 | Noticed Harold 14088 | D:11 | Killed Harold 14128 | D:11 | Reached skill level 18 in Slings 14549 | D:11 | Noticed Erolcha 14732 | D:11 | Killed Erolcha 14824 | D:11 | Received a gift from Okawaru 14903 | D:11 | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines. 14958 | D:11 | Reached skill level 19 in Slings 16055 | D:12 | Reached skill level 20 in Slings 16093 | D:12 | Noticed Maurice 16098 | D:12 | Killed Maurice 16161 | D:12 | Reached skill level 5 in Invocations 16319 | D:12 | Received a gift from Okawaru 16584 | D:13 | Received a gift from Okawaru 16630 | D:13 | Noticed Erica 16638 | D:13 | Killed Erica 16660 | D:13 | Reached skill level 21 in Slings 16726 | D:13 | Reached XP level 13. HP: 73/84 MP: 21/21 16805 | D:13 | Received a gift from Okawaru 16806 | D:13 | Got a warped sling {god gift} 16807 | D:13 | Identified the sling of the Dungeon {god gift, velocity, rC+} (Okawaru gifted it to you on level 13 of the Dungeon) 17573 | D:14 | Entered Level 14 of the Dungeon 17851 | D:14 | Found a staircase to the Vaults. 17998 | D:14 | You fall through a shaft! 17998 | D:15 | Entered Level 15 of the Dungeon 18069 | D:15 | Reached skill level 22 in Slings 18154 | D:15 | Identified a scroll of acquirement 18747 | D:14 | Paralysed by a potion of paralysis for 4 turns

The idea is to train shields up to 15, and maybe some dodging&fighting before leveling up slings again.

The questions so far are:

- where should I go? Nothing like poison resistance for Lair so far. Maybe Orc for now, and hoping for some ring of rPoison.
- what should I do with weapon and ammunution? 150 stones and normal sling bullets vanishes with a lightening speed by last two floors. Should I found some sort of melee weapon and stick with it whaiting some more ammunition supply from Oka? +4 Steel bullets could works fine, but I have only 40 and think it could be better to save them until I have about 100, and then enchant it for some levels. Never have hunters, and don't really know what to do with ammo.
- also, should I use enchant scrolls on weapon, or save it for ammo so I have more reliable stock?
- what kind of sling is better - should I enchant one from my arsenal or should I wait for good artifact gift?

Thanks!

Wednesday, 29th August 2012, 11:59 by nago

Halfing need 21 in shields to eliminate normal shields penalties, a huge investment of exp which isn't worth at all. Disable shield, stick with a buckler (of resistance, if you can find it) and be happy.
Rpois isn't necessary for Lair (heck, even Swamp and Snakes can be done without it!). Start to hit all threating poisoning enemies (black mambas, spiny frogs, ...) with your sling as soon as they appear, always keep at least 1 pot of curing in your inventory and you will be fine. Orcs can be a lot more dangerous (OoD like Stone Giant, Rock Troll, Saint Roka may spawn here) - especially Orc:4 is the graveyard of a lot of character who could easily clear Lair:1-7.

About ammo management: if you play well with Oka, keeping your faith up (aka, you don't spend too much time resting, or wandering around), you'll soon have more ammo you'll ever need. Spam heroism in every non-banal fight, it's really cheap and really good. If you find an amulet of faith early on, it's the best you can wear while worshiping Oka.
Probably you won't get many steel bullets, depending on your luck you'll probably need to enchant normal ammo (which is great too) - when using slings, I usually shot the "bad"-branded ammo first (poison, exploding, ...) to save the normal and good branded one (silver, steel) until I get a good amount to enchant (I'd say 100-200 bullets is a good amount to enchant for a 3 rune game). Btw, +4 steel bullets have a reasonably low mulch rate, they should last quite long.
Ah, the better ranged brand is vorpal: as soon as you find a scroll of vorpalize weapon, create your sling of velocity and enchant that (use EW1 on bullets, EW2/3 on the sling). Don't bother to enchant slings of flame of frost.

A hahu can win using only sling, but if you fear to run out of ammo or you want to add a bit of differentiation, you may train short blades, hoping Oka will gift a decent weapon. You can use during non-hard fights, and your sling against strong opponents. You should train stealth too, it's very cheap for an Ha and helps a lot in a lot of different ways - to place better in combat, to avoid nasty opponents, to flee from combat and so on. If you want, you can train stabbing a bit too, it's quite easy for Ha to became good stabbers.

edit: if you have found books with good spells (blink, swiftness, repel missiles, haste, ...) it's a good time to start to train some magic schools too.
Id that wand and that ring, it's a very bad thing to have potentially really important items unidentified.

Wednesday, 29th August 2012, 15:02 by lifecoder

No good books, and I miss my scroll of vorpalise - read unidentified. It comes a bit easier with projectiles since Orc - really piety-builder, and then an amulet of faith helps a bit.
Now have Orc:4 (Aizul-guarded), Swamp:5 (Saint Roka and Co), and now on Snake 2.

As a main weapon - gifted +2,+10, +Inv, Dex+2, Stlth--. Pretty good along with +5,+7 ring of slaying (really love this thing). Also use Str+3 Int+2 ring instead of the ring of Octopus King cause couldn't carry all that weight even after dropping pretty everithyng except ammo and vital things.

Hope for another vorpal scroll, and clearing Snake, see ya (=

Oh, and I'm still with shield training since take one of reflection from Donald. Maybe it not worth the XP, but I think it better than tons of Fighting.

Wednesday, 29th August 2012, 15:09 by lifecoder

Oh, fine! Armor shop, gloves with Str+2 Int+4, and Leather armor +Blink, rN+. Should find some teleport control (=

Added:
Aaaaaaaaaand +2,+7 Sling of Velocity in studio! I feel crawl ready to kill my char to make this really disappointing xD

Added:
Aha, Snake:4, Mennas.

So I have to take out from there and move to Vaults or D:16+ until I could take out all those problems.

Wednesday, 29th August 2012, 17:06 by nago

Reflection is a very bad brand, almost useless: initially, you need to block a bolt, then to reflect it, and finally hit something, which happens very rarely. As I said, a buckler of resistance (or even only rf+) is ten million better.
The main weapon could be very good, but we should know the base type and the brand. In the case is actually good, you may train evoc until invisibility is reliably castable (and stab things in that way).
A +str is always useless; if you really need to carry more things, raise str on level up (which is quite a waste too).
What kind of Octopus Ring do you have? They can have 8 different properties, if yours have regen, rf+ or even rc+, throw away that +str ring even more quickly and wear that.

I don't know why you have explored Swamp:5: branches' ends are always far more dangerous than levels before. You should always explore other places (Dungeon, Orcs, Vault:1-7, eventually elf:1-4 and crypt:1-4) before entering Lair branches' end

Finally, powerful enemies/uniques should remember that in DCSS not everything need to be killed. Unless it's really necessary (e.g. Saint Roka really next to the rune and you haven't apportation), there isn't a real reason or big reward to risk your character life against them.

Monday, 29th October 2012, 00:42 by graffen69

nago wrote:A +str is always useless; if you really need to carry more things, raise str on level up (which is quite a waste too).
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Has the Str bonus for ranged weapons been adjusted lately? If memory serves, str bonus for ranged weapons had a very erratic bonus, but I was under the impression that Str was actually quite good raising for the sake of Launchers alone. MIght have missed any changes though.

Thursday, 1st November 2012, 18:25 by rebthor

graffen69 wrote:
nago wrote:A +str is always useless; if you really need to carry more things, raise str on level up (which is quite a waste too).
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Has the Str bonus for ranged weapons been adjusted lately? If memory serves, str bonus for ranged weapons had a very erratic bonus, but I was under the impression that Str was actually quite good raising for the sake of Launchers alone. MIght have missed any changes though.

Pretty much useless for slings. Reasonably important for bows. Very important for xbows.

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