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Ziggurat Zagger

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Post Friday, 11th May 2012, 01:51

YASD: I miss having magic resistance

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 Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.10.0-32-gfa280cc character file.

4846 Tasonir the Eternal Chronicler (level 10, -11/89 HPs)
             Began as a Troll Monk on May 11, 2012.
             Was a High Priest of Cheibriados.
             Mangled by Erolcha
             ... wielding a +1,+0 great mace
              (14 damage)
             ... while paralysed by Erolcha
             ... on Level 9 of the Dungeon.
             The game lasted 00:30:04 (6451 turns).

Tasonir the Eternal Chronicler (Troll Monk)         Turns: 6451, Time: 00:30:04

HP -11/89        AC  8     Str 32      XL: 10   Next: 10%
MP  19/19        EV  1     Int 20      God: Cheibriados [*****.]
Gold 329         SH  0     Dex 23      Spells:  0 memorised,  9 levels left

Res.Fire  : + . .   See Invis. : .      - Unarmed
Res.Cold  : . . .   Warding    : . .  F - +0 orc robe
Life Prot.: . . .   Conserve   : .    (shield restricted)
Res.Acid. : . . .   Res.Corr.  : .    j - +2 orc wizard hat
Res.Poison: .       Clarity    : .    v - +0 cloak
Res.Elec. : .       Spirit.Shd : .    (gloves unavailable)
Sust.Abil.: . .     Stasis     : .    (boots unavailable)
Res.Mut.  : .       Ctrl.Telep.: .    (no amulet)
Res.Rott. : .       Levitation : .    N - ring of protection from fire
Gourmand  : +       Ctrl.Flight: .    H - ring of levitation

@: paralysed, very slow, somewhat resistant to hostile enchantments, fairly
stealthy
A: unfitting armour, claws 3, fast metabolism 3, gourmand, regeneration 2,
saprovore 2, tough skin 2, AC +1
a: Bend Time, Temporal Distortion, Slouch, Step From Time, Renounce Religion,
Evoke Levitation


You were on level 9 of the Dungeon.
You worshipped Cheibriados.
Cheibriados was extremely pleased with you.
You were very hungry.

You visited 2 branches of the dungeon, and saw 10 of its levels.
You visited 1 portal chamber: ossuary.

You collected 329 gold pieces.

Inventory:

Hand weapons
 K - a cursed +0 blowgun
Armour
 j - a +2 orcish wizard hat (worn)
 v - a +0 cloak (worn)
 F - a +0 orcish robe (worn)
Magical devices
 e - a wand of magic darts (8)
 L - a wand of magic darts (12)
 Q - a wand of disintegration (10)
Comestibles
 b - 5 meat rations
 d - a pear
 k - 5 royal jellies
 l - 10 strawberries
 o - a bread ration
 x - an apple
 P - 14 honeycombs
Scrolls
 a - 3 scrolls of enchant weapon II {unknown}
 c - 2 scrolls of magic mapping
 f - 3 scrolls of recharging {unknown}
 g - 2 scrolls of teleportation {unknown}
 h - 2 scrolls of amnesia
 n - 2 scrolls of blinking {unknown}
 q - a scroll of enchant armour {unknown}
 r - 5 scrolls of detect curse
 s - 2 scrolls of curse jewellery {unknown}
 t - a scroll of remove curse
 w - 5 scrolls of fear {unknown}
 y - a scroll of acquirement {unknown}
 G - a scroll of fog {unknown}
 I - a scroll of curse armour {unknown}
 J - 2 scrolls of enchant weapon I {unknown}
 O - a scroll of immolation {unknown}
Jewellery
 H - a ring of levitation (left claw)
 N - a ring of protection from fire (right claw)
Potions
 i - 6 potions of curing {unknown}
 m - a potion of heal wounds
 p - a potion of brilliance {unknown}
 z - a potion of slowing {unknown}
 A - a potion of mutation {unknown}
 B - 3 potions of might {unknown}
 C - a potion of degeneration {unknown}
 D - a potion of resistance {unknown}
 E - a potion of restore abilities {unknown}
 M - 2 potions of levitation {unknown}
Books
 u - a book of Unlife   
   
   Spells                             Type                      Level
   Recall                             Summoning/Translocation      3
   Animate Dead                       Necromancy                   4
   Control Undead                     Necromancy                   4
   Twisted Resurrection               Necromancy                   5
   Simulacrum                         Ice/Necromancy               6
   Death Channel                      Necromancy                   7


   Skills:
 - Level 2.4 Fighting
 - Level 2.4 Dodging
 - Level 1.1 Stealth
 + Level 9.9 Unarmed Combat
 - Level 10.2 Invocations


You had 9 spell levels left.
You didn't know any spells.

Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (9/27)             Temple (1/1) D:5         
   Orc: D:6-11        Lair: D:8-13     

Altars:
Ashenzari
Cheibriados
Elyvilon
Fedhas
Kikubaaqudgha
Makhleb
Nemelex Xobeh
Okawaru
Sif Muna
The Shining One
Trog
Vehumet
Xom
Yredelemnul
Zin

Annotations
D:9 Erolcha


                    Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You are too large for most types of armour.
You have claws for hands.
Your metabolism is lightning-fast.
You like to eat raw meat.
You heal very quickly.
You can eat rotten meat.
You are covered in fur (AC +1).
You have very tough skin (AC +2).


Message History

Erolcha hits you with a great mace!
Erolcha zaps a wand. The bolt of fire hits you! You resist.
One of your 3 scrolls labeled GHALEAT RIKHLU catches fire!
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
Erolcha casts a spell at you.
You resist. The manticore flicks its tail!
Helpless, you fail to dodge the volley of spikes.
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
Erolcha zaps a wand.
Helpless, you fail to dodge the bolt of fire.
You resist.
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
The manticore flicks its tail! The volley of spikes hits you!
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
Erolcha is no longer bleeding.
Erolcha screams, "Eat!"
Erolcha hits you with a great mace!
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
Erolcha hits you with a great mace!
You die...

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You could see Erolcha and a manticore.

Vanquished Creatures
  The ghost of Levian the Covered, an experienced DDBe of Trog (D:6)
  A queen bee (D:8)
  A hippogriff (D:8)
  Menkaure (D:5)
  2 sky beasts (D:8)
  An orc warrior (D:7)
  A yellow wasp (D:9)
  2 black bears (D:6)
  A centaur (D:6)
  An ogre (D:8)
  A giant frog (D:6)
  A basilisk zombie (D:8)
  25 killer bees
  4 bog mummies (Port)
  2 goliath beetles
  An orc priest (D:6)
  3 scorpions
  Crazy Yiuf (D:6)
  3 crimson imps
  A hound (D:8)
  6 worker ants
  3 orc wizards
  A worker ant zombie (D:6)
  Ijyb (D:2)
  A worm zombie (D:6)
  6 jellies
  10 mummies (Port)
  8 adders
  An adder zombie (D:5)
  2 giant centipede zombies
  A giant mite (D:2)
  2 iguana zombies (Port)
  5 worms
  A bat skeleton (D:4)
  A bat zombie (Port)
  A giant eyeball (D:6)
  2 giant geckos
  2 gnoll zombies (D:8)
  5 oozes (D:8)
  18 orcs
  4 ball pythons
  6 giant cockroaches
  10 goblins
  6 hobgoblins
  6 jackals
  15 kobolds
  9 quokkas
  5 bats
  3 giant newts
  A giant spore (D:8)
  3 goblin zombies (Port)
  2 hobgoblin zombies (Port)
  2 kobold zombies (Port)
  An orc zombie (D:6)
  A quokka skeleton (D:7)
  13 rats
  A rat zombie (Port)
  2 ballistomycetes (D:8)
  A toadstool (D:7)
222 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (others)
  A rat (D:6)
  A plant (Port)
  7 toadstools
9 creatures vanquished.

Grand Total: 231 creatures vanquished

Notes
Turn   | Place    | Note
--------------------------------------------------------------
     0 | D:1      | Tasonir, the Troll Monk, began the quest for the Orb.
     0 | D:1      | Reached XP level 1. HP: 20/20 MP: 0/0
   158 | D:1      | Reached XP level 2. HP: 23/28 MP: 0/0
   804 | D:2      | Reached skill level 5 in Unarmed Combat
   804 | D:2      | Reached XP level 3. HP: 35/35 MP: 1/1
   966 | D:2      | Noticed Ijyb
   982 | D:2      | Killed Ijyb
   982 | D:2      | Reached XP level 4. HP: 40/44 MP: 1/1
  1611 | D:4      | Reached skill level 6 in Unarmed Combat
  1949 | D:4      | Reached XP level 5. HP: 50/50 MP: 1/1
  2119 | D:5      | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
  2138 | D:5      | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple.
  2147 | Temple   | Entered the Ecumenical Temple
  2174 | Temple   | Became a worshipper of Cheibriados the Contemplative
  2174 | Temple   | Acquired Cheibriados's first power
  2323 | D:5      | Reached skill level 1 in Invocations
  2528 | D:5      | Reached XP level 6. HP: 31/58 MP: 4/4
  2601 | D:5      | Noticed Menkaure
  2609 | D:5      | Killed Menkaure
  2713 | D:5      | Found a shimmering altar of Xom.
  3128 | D:6      | Noticed Levian's ghost (experienced DDBe)
  3162 | D:6      | Killed Levian's ghost
  3162 | D:6      | Reached XP level 7. HP: 25/66 MP: 6/9
  3167 | D:6      | Found a bloodstained altar of Trog.
  3178 | D:6      | Acquired Cheibriados's second power
  3191 | D:6      | Reached skill level 7 in Invocations
  3191 | D:6      | Reached XP level 8. HP: 37/74 MP: 9/11
  3246 | D:6      | Noticed Crazy Yiuf
  3253 | D:6      | Killed Crazy Yiuf
  3928 | D:6      | Reached skill level 8 in Invocations
  3974 | D:6      | Acquired Cheibriados's third power
  4801 | D:8      | Found a sand-covered staircase.
  4826 | ossuary  | Entered a tomb
  4904 | ossuary  | Reached skill level 9 in Invocations
  4912 | ossuary  | HP: 7/74 [bog mummy (20)]
  5054 | ossuary  | Reached XP level 9. HP: 61/80 MP: 16/16
  5064 | ossuary  | HP: 11/80 [bog mummy (11)]
  5210 | D:8      | Found an iron altar of Okawaru.
  5275 | D:8      | Acquired Cheibriados's fourth power
  5463 | D:8      | Reached skill level 10 in Invocations
  5671 | D:8      | Noticed a queen bee
  5681 | D:8      | Killed a queen bee
  5954 | D:8      | Reached XP level 10. HP: 55/89 MP: 19/19
  6441 | D:9      | Noticed Erolcha
  6446 | D:9      | Paralysed by Erolcha for 6 turns
  6450 | D:9      | HP: 2/89 [Erolcha/great mace (13)]
  6451 | D:9      | Mangled by Erolcha


Not the most novel of characters or runs, but I was just starting to get fond of the character when I was reminded that I was playing a race that only gets 3 MR a level. Erolcha comes into view, I tab into her like a proper troll should, and after landing one or two hits, and being very nearly still at full life, she lands a paralyse. I panic, but can't do anything but hit space to see how low I'm going to get down to, probably have to quaff a heal wounds...nope, just flat out dead. 6 turn paralyze next to an ogre and a manticore, farewell Tasonir ;)

I even had fire resistance for her fire wand too!

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Post Friday, 11th May 2012, 08:34

Re: YASD: I miss having magic resistance

I've gotten far with many trolls yet never won one so far. Their glass cannon-y nature makes itself very apparent after the early game (unless you luck into a decent dragon armour). I never manage to get a good troll going with throwing and some steel javelins/large rocks before hitting a wall. Their apts are quite annoying sadly...

Just a small note: High HP regeneration rate allows you to kite monsters around while regaining large amounts of health in a few turns but that is quite tedious. You can do it early on to kill non faster than you melee only monsters. With Chei you pretty much lose that ability.
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614 | D:1      | Slain by a gnoll

Ziggurat Zagger

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Joined: Friday, 25th November 2011, 07:36

Post Friday, 11th May 2012, 18:07

Re: YASD: I miss having magic resistance

yeah I have certainly noticed getting to the lair isn't quite the easy time most characters have with it, but in theory at least, stone form should take care of all of that. But you won't have that until you're done with lair, probably orc as well ;) I'll keep working on it but for now I kind of like just tabbing and splatting trolls for some reason :)

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Post Friday, 11th May 2012, 20:19

Re: YASD: I miss having magic resistance

I know you're working on not-naga of chei, but you should really try a TrCK while you're splatting trolls, or at least a TrTm or TrEE of Xom. I tend to play one after big YASDs to blow off steam.
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Post Saturday, 12th May 2012, 07:47

Re: YASD: I miss having magic resistance

Really the best trolls of chei are ones that start with a decent book (probably Wz, Cj, IE, and EE are the best of those) since you can use the int increase without having to rely on the rng to give you a decent book. You learn the low level spells and then get mainly UC for a while until your chei stats build up. If you pick a background with a good book, troll of chei is reasonably easy since trolls in general are ridiculously strong early on so you can ride that to the point where chei stops being bad and starts actually helping your character.

TrMo of chei sounds pretty bad. If you're going to do it I suggest putting less xp into invocations (bend time is extremely good but works well even at low invo) and more into UC/dodging/fighting.

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