YASD: Agnes!

[tcjsavannah]

I've never played a Nemelex worshipper before, but I decided to try it out. After a rough start (I must have had ~20 decks of summoning/escape/destruction before I got my first deck of wonders) I finally made some headway, getting a nice demon trident and also finding the two Necromancy books I needed to pursue the mid- and end-game.

In Vault:2, I've got about 5-6 zombies that I'm using to train Summoning with recall. Open a door to find Agnes.. I retreat behind my zombies, but in two shots, Agnes beserks and wipes the floor with me. Gah!

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85976 Chiron the Necromancer (level 15, -26/106 HPs)
             Began as a Demonspawn Necromancer on Jan 16, 2011.
             Was the Champion of Nemelex Xobeh.
             Annihilated by Agnes
             ... wielding a +1,+2 lajatang of electrocution
              (43 damage)
             ... on Level 2 of the Vaults on Jan 20, 2011.
             Tcjsavannah's game lasted 05:30:13 (36543 turns).

Chiron the Necromancer (Demonspawn Necromancer)                                        Turns: 36543, Time: 05:30:14

HP -26/106       AC 15     Str  9      Exp: 15/119996 (11189), need: 48803
MP  39/41        EV 17     Int 25      God: Nemelex Xobeh [******]
Gold 1979        SH 11     Dex 12 (15) Spells:  9 memorised, 12 levels left

Res.Fire  : . . .   See Invis. : +   B - +7,+5 demon trident (freeze)
Res.Cold  : + . .   Warding    : .   o - +1 leather armour {rPois}
Life Prot.: . . .   Conserve   : .   q - +1 elf buckler
Res.Poison: +       Res.Corr.  : .   A - +2 cap {Int+3}
Res.Elec. : +       Clarity    : .   y - +1 dwarf cloak
Spirit.Shd: .       Stasis     : .   i - +2 pair of gloves
Sust.Abil.: . .     Rnd.Telep. : .   j - +0 pair of boots "Ciawn" {rElec SInv Curse
Res.Mut.  : .       Ctrl.Telep.: .   (no amulet)
Res.Rott. : .       Levitation : .   S - +1 ring of intelligence
Saprovore : . . .   Ctrl.Flight: .   k - ring of magical power

@: very resistant to hostile enchantments, fairly stealthy
A: horns 2, cold resistance 1, magic resistance 2, spit poison 1, AC +2
a: Spit Poison, Draw One, Peek at Two, Triple Draw, Mark Four, Stack Five, Renounce Religion


You were on level 2 of the Vaults.
You worshipped Nemelex Xobeh.
Nemelex Xobeh was exalted by your worship.
You were not hungry.

You visited 9 branches of the dungeon, and saw 37 of its levels.
You visited 1 portal chamber: bailey.

You collected 2455 gold pieces.
You spent 376 gold pieces at shops.
You used 120 gold pieces for miscellaneous purposes.

Inventory:

Hand weapons
 m - a +1,+2 dagger of pain
 r - a +1 elven blowgun
 B - a +7,+5 demon trident of freezing (weapon)
 Q - a +1,+1 hand axe of returning (quivered)
Missiles
 n - 15 steel +0 elven darts
 D - 14 poisoned +0 needles
 E - 19 poisoned +0 elven needles
Armour
 i - a +2 pair of gloves (worn)
 j - the +0 pair of boots "Ciawn" (worn) {rElec SInv Curse}
   (You acquired it on level 9 of the Dungeon)   
   It insulates you from electricity.
   It enhances your eyesight.
   It may recurse itself.
 o - a +1 leather armour of poison resistance (worn)
 q - a +1 elven buckler (worn)
 y - a +1 dwarven cloak (worn)
 A - a +2 cap of intelligence (worn)
Magical devices
 v - a wand of disintegration (1)
 x - a wand of fire (8)
 C - a wand of teleportation (4)
 H - a wand of digging (7)
 L - a wand of draining (5)
Comestibles
 c - 5 bread rations
 h - 5 chunks of yak flesh
Scrolls
 d - 2 scrolls of remove curse
 g - 2 scrolls of detect curse
 p - 3 scrolls of teleportation
Jewellery
 k - a ring of magical power (left hand)
 t - an uncursed ring of sustain abilities
 u - a +2 ring of strength {unknown}
 w - an uncursed amulet of stasis
 F - an uncursed amulet of resist mutation
 N - a cursed ring of hunger {unknown}
 S - a +1 ring of intelligence (right hand)
Potions
 T - 3 potions of healing
Miscellaneous
 a - an ornate deck of wonders {drawn: 4} {god gift}
 b - an ornate deck of summonings {drawn: 3} {god gift}
 e - an ornate deck of escape {drawn: 6} {god gift}
 f - an ornate deck of escape {drawn: 6} {god gift}
 l - an ornate deck of summonings {drawn: 12} {god gift}
 s - an ornate deck of escape {drawn: 1} {god gift}
 z - a plain deck of changes {drawn: 7}
 G - an ornate deck of dungeons {god gift}
 M - an ornate deck of escape {drawn: 1} {god gift}
 O - a legendary deck of destruction {drawn: 4} {god gift}


 You had 11189 experience left.

   Skills:
 + Level 8 Fighting
 - Level 6 Maces & Flails
 + Level 6 Polearms
 - Level 6 Staves
 - Level 4 Throwing
 + Level 4 Armour
 + Level 13 Dodging
 - Level 3 Stealth
 - Level 2 Stabbing
 + Level 2 Traps & Doors
 - Level 5 Unarmed Combat
 + Level 11 Spellcasting
 + Level 2 Summonings
 + Level 15 Necromancy
 - Level 3 Translocations
 - Level 1 Air Magic
 - Level 1 Poison Magic
 - Level 8 Evocations


You had 12 spell levels left.
You knew the following spells:

 Your Spells              Type           Power          Success   Level
a - Pain                  Necr           #####          Excellent   1
b - Vampiric Draining     Necr           #######...     Excellent   3
c - Dispel Undead         Necr           #######..      Excellent   4
d - Apportation           Tloc           #####.....     Excellent   1
e - Blink                 Tloc           N/A            Great       2
f - Mephitic Cloud        Pois/Air/Conj  ###.......     Fair        3
g - Recall                Tloc/Summ      N/A            Very Good   3
h - Regeneration          Ench/Necr      #######...     Excellent   3
i - Animate Dead          Necr           N/A            Excellent   4


Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (17/27)            Temple (1/1) D:6             Orc (4/4) D:9
    Elf (1/7) Orc:4          Lair (8/8) D:9          Shoals (2/5) Lair:5
  Slime (1/6) Lair:6        Snake (1/5) Lair:5         Hive (0/2) D:12
  Vault (2/8) D:15       
 Crypt: Vault:2-4   

Altars:
Cheibriados
Elyvilon
Fedhas
Kikubaaqudgha
Makhleb
Nemelex Xobeh
Okawaru
Sif Muna
The Shining One
Trog
Vehumet
Xom
Yredelemnul
Zin

Shops:
D:6: ?  D:7: =  D:9: (  D:10: ?  D:15: */[%

Portals:
Trove: D:12 (6 scrolls of enchant armour)

Annotations
D:2 exclusion: foul pestilence cloud
D:7 exclusion: oklob plant
Lair:7 exclusion: orange crystal statue


                    Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You have a pair of horns on your head.
You are mostly covered in thin metallic scales (AC +2).
Your flesh is cold resistant.
You are highly resistant to magic.
You can spit poison.


Message History

Agnes hits you with a lajatang of electrocution!
Agnes misses you. The yak gores your cyclops zombie.
Agnes hits you with a lajatang of electrocution!
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
Agnes hits you with a lajatang of electrocution!
You die...
Your body glows with a rainbow of weird colours and disappears.

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You could see Agnes (berserk), a yak, a friendly orange demon, a friendly cyclops zombie and a friendly ogre zombie.


[Waywinkle]

When it comes to uniques I usually mephitic cloud first and ask questions (hack to bits/run away) later.

[Kylearan]

To get more decks of wonders, make your first sacrifice as a Nemelex worshipper a stack consisting of all the meat you've found in the dungeon up to that point. Every time I do that, the first deck gifted always seems to be wonders.

[szanth]

I wouldn't do that till you get full-ish piety. That way you're more likely to get a higher brand of deck when you finally do throw away all your permafood.

[Sprinter]

I wouldn't do that till you get full-ish piety. That way you're more likely to get a higher brand of deck when you finally do throw away all your permafood.

would cutting ur victim bodies before offering them to namelex work toward deck of wonder ? Because if i dont cut them i get decks of summonings.

[szanth]

You have to sacrifice stuff like rations, fruit and honeycombs for that to work. Even 'chunks of meat' count toward summoning, because it's not permanent food.

[Funkymoses]

I wouldn't do that till you get full-ish piety. That way you're more likely to get a higher brand of deck when you finally do throw away all your permafood.

while that's true you always get a quick deck when you convert to nemelex and you can guarantee that it's wonder if you only sacrifice consumables up until then, and jumping from level 6 to level 8 and getting 5k experience seems like a much more valuable thing than going from 22 to 23 and getting 40k. I usually chuck away scrolls of fear and other non-essentials (like any teleport scroll over two), potions of mutation/brilliance, and some spare food until i get one.

[tcjsavannah]

I agree about sacrificing any non-essential scrolls - anything not enchant x, teleport, blink and remove curse gets sac'd to Nemelex. I'm also all about sac'ing temp boost potions - how often do you really rely on that might or agility potion? But if it can help you get a deck of Wonders, it's worth the sacrifice. Brilliance I'll keep one to memorize a tough spell but that's it.

I also sac the "bad" potions/scrolls too. Is there any difference in Nemelex piety sacrificing bad potions vs. good potions?

[szanth]

For that matter, can you completely screw that system over by being a transmuter and sacrificing a bunch of potions of confusion?

[lucy_ferre]

I also sac the "bad" potions/scrolls too. Is there any difference in Nemelex piety sacrificing bad potions vs. good potions?

Yes.

For that matter, can you completely screw that system over by being a transmuter and sacrificing a bunch of potions of confusion?

No.

[Kate]

To be a little more helpful: Piety gain/gift timeout is based on the value of the items you sacrifice, and bad/useless items have a value of 1gp.

[szanth]

Does a potion of mutation count as 'bad'? Because transmuters can make that as well. What about potions of water?

[KoboldLord]

Does a potion of mutation count as 'bad'? Because transmuters can make that as well. What about potions of water?

Mutation potions have a decent value and are definitely better to sacrifice than ugly thing corpses, but you might consider stockpiling some instead for later use. Nemelex also lets you effectively use Helix cards, which at high power will reliably improve an existing mutation set as long as there are some bad ones in there to work with. A mutation-free character is less likely to get good results.

Water potions are still worthless.

[szanth]

Hm. So a transmuter can get a solid amount of Wonder Decks from killing off a bunch of Ugly Things and bottling their remains and sacrificing it to nemelex?

[Funkymoses]

Hm. So a transmuter can get a solid amount of Wonder Decks from killing off a bunch of Ugly Things and bottling their remains and sacrificing it to nemelex?

yes. actually, since Fulsome Distillation is a level one spell virtually any spellcaster following nemelex should learn it if they get the option. Partially for wonder decks and partially because you can suck down a bunch of mutation potions and get a good set and then take out potentially crippling negative mutations with helix cards.