CIP->YASD Tasonir the KoBe who unsurprisingly has died! ;)

Monday, 28th November 2011, 15:51 by tasonir

Code:: Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.9.1 character file. Tasonir the Slicer (Kobold Berserker) Turns: 22701, Time: 03:02:30 HP 78/78 AC 17 Str 19 XL: 13 Next: 30% MP 15/15 EV 16 Int 5 God: Trog [*****.] Gold 659 SH 18 Dex 20 Spells: 0 memorised, 14 levels left Res.Fire : + . . See Invis. : . I - +4,+2 scimitar (elec) {god gift} Res.Cold : + . . Warding : . . t - +5 chain mail "Vuniocic" {rPois rC+ Str+3 Life Prot.: . . . Conserve : . R - +3 orc buckler Res.Acid. : . . . Res.Corr. : . O - +0 winged helmet Res.Poison: + Clarity : + Y - +0 orc cloak Res.Elec. : . Spirit.Shd : . m - -1 pair of elf gloves Sust.Abil.: . . Stasis : . L - +0 pair of boots Res.Mut. : . Ctrl.Telep.: . q - amulet of clarity Res.Rott. : . Levitation : . Q - ring of protection from fire Saprovore : + + . Ctrl.Flight: . j - +3 ring of evasion @: somewhat resistant to hostile enchantments, extremely unstealthy A: disease resistance, carnivore 3, saprovore 2 a: Burn Spellbooks, Berserk, Trog's Hand, Brothers in Arms, Renounce Religion You are on level 8 of the Dungeon. You worship Trog. Trog is exalted by your worship. You are very full. You have visited 2 branches of the dungeon, and seen 15 of its levels. You have visited 1 portal chamber: ice cave. You have collected 709 gold pieces. You have spent 70 gold pieces at shops. Inventory: Hand weapons a - a +3,+3 sabre of speed b - an uncursed sling e - a +0,+3 orcish dagger of holy wrath l - a +4,+8 anti-magic ankus {god gift} I - a +4,+2 scimitar of electrocution (weapon) {god gift} P - a +0,+4 anti-magic sabre {god gift} S - a +1,+3 elven long sword of electrocution {god gift} Missiles k - 38 +3 darts (quivered) r - 13 runed darts s - 15 runed sling bullets v - 17 poisoned needles x - 65 stones Armour g - a +2 leather armour m - a -1 pair of elven gloves (worn) p - the +2 chain mail of Royalty {Int+3 Acc+3 Dam+3 Stlth++} (You found it in an ice cave) It affects your intelligence (+3). It affects your accuracy (+3). It affects your damage-dealing abilities (+3). It makes you much more stealthy. t - the +5 chain mail "Vuniocic" (worn) {rPois rC+ Str+3 Stlth+} (You found it on level 1 of the Lair of Beasts) It affects your strength (+3). It protects you from cold. It protects you from poison. It makes you more stealthy. L - a +0 pair of boots (worn) O - a +0 winged helmet (worn) R - a +3 orcish buckler (worn) Y - a +0 orcish cloak (worn) Magical devices d - a wand of cold (6) h - a wand of draining (13) u - a runed bone wand J - a wand of polymorph other (6) U - a wand of confusion Comestibles c - 5 meat rations Scrolls f - 3 scrolls of recharging i - a scroll of teleportation w - 4 scrolls of remove curse y - a scroll of enchant weapon II A - a scroll labeled MOLAUJIKKUC B - a scroll of detect curse D - 3 scrolls of enchant armour E - 2 scrolls of enchant weapon I G - 2 scrolls of fear K - a scroll labeled EFAOBR NUYHORI N - 2 scrolls of fog Jewellery j - a +3 ring of evasion (left hand) q - an amulet of clarity (around neck) Q - a ring of protection from fire (right hand) X - an uncursed ring of see invisible Potions n - a potion of healing o - 2 potions of paralysis z - 3 potions of restore abilities C - a fizzy pink potion F - an oily pink potion H - a metallic cyan potion M - a metallic inky potion T - an emulsified orange potion V - 3 potions of agility Z - 2 potions of levitation Skills: - Level 9 Fighting + Level 14 Short Blades * Level 4 Long Blades - Level 3 Maces & Flails - Level 2 Slings - Level 8 Throwing * Level 7 Armour + Level 9 Dodging - Level 1 Stealth - Level 1 Stabbing - Level 7 Shields + Level 3 Traps & Doors - Level 7 Unarmed Combat - Level 1 Spellcasting - Level 3 Evocations You have 14 spell levels left. You don't know any spells. Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations Branches: Dungeon (9/27) Temple (0/1) D:4 Lair (6/8) D:8 Swamp (0/5) Lair:2 Shoals (0/5) Lair:4 Orc: D:6-11 Slime: Lair:6-8 Altars: Ashenzari Cheibriados Kikubaaqudgha Okawaru Sif Muna The Shining One Vehumet Yredelemnul Shops: D:5: [[ Annotations D:6 stash in lower right corner Lair:6 exclusion: 2 oklob plants Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations You recuperate from illness quickly. You are small and have problems with some larger weapons. You are carnivorous and can eat meat at any time. You can eat rotten meat. Message History HP restored. There is a stone staircase leading up here. You climb upwards. There is a stone staircase leading down, spattered with blood here. There is a stone staircase leading up here. You climb upwards. There is a stone staircase leading down, spattered with blood here. You see here a bat skeleton. There is a stone staircase leading up here. You climb upwards. There is a stone staircase leading down here. There is a staircase back to the Dungeon here. You climb upwards. Welcome back to the Dungeon! There is a staircase to the Lair here. Items here: // == }} a wand of confusion (4); a wand of magic darts {zapped: 3}; an uncursed ring of ice; a +4 ring of strength; a disc of storms a box of beasts Welcome back, Tasonir the Kobold Berserker. Trog says: Kill them all! Press ? for a list of commands and other information. ##...####...##### ##...## ####..... ##P....## #.#### #PP.....# #.# #PPPP...## #.# #PPP.P...#####)#### #PP................ #PP.PP....####.#### #P.......## #.# #P.>.PPP.# #.# #P@..PP.## #.# #PPPPPP.# #.# ##PPPPP## #.# ####### #.#### #.[[.. ###### There are no monsters in sight! Grand Total: 532 creatures vanquished Notes Turn | Place | Note -------------------------------------------------------------- 0 | D:1 | Tasonir, the Kobold Berserker, began the quest for the Orb. 0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 1. HP: 14/14 MP: 0/0 77 | D:1 | Reached skill level 4 in Fighting 199 | D:1 | Reached XP level 2. HP: 18/20 MP: 1/1 697 | D:1 | Acquired Trog's second power 725 | D:1 | Reached skill level 1 in Short Blades 725 | D:1 | Reached XP level 3. HP: 18/24 MP: 2/2 1513 | D:2 | Reached skill level 1 in Traps & Doors 1528 | D:2 | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha. 1710 | D:2 | Reached skill level 1 in Stealth 1781 | D:2 | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting 1781 | D:2 | Reached XP level 4. HP: 24/29 MP: 3/3 1835 | D:3 | Found a radiant altar of Vehumet. 1874 | D:3 | Found a basalt altar of Yredelemnul. 2028 | D:3 | Found a glowing golden altar of the Shining One. 2704 | D:3 | Noticed Tasonir's ghost (average KoBe) 2726 | D:3 | Defeated Tasonir's ghost 2726 | D:3 | Reached skill level 5 in Short Blades 2726 | D:3 | Reached XP level 5. HP: 27/34 MP: 4/4 2787 | D:3 | Found a glowing drain. 2798 | D:3 | Reached XP level 6. HP: 29/39 MP: 5/5 2886 | D:3 | Noticed Crazy Yiuf 2892 | D:3 | Defeated Crazy Yiuf 3323 | D:3 | Reached skill level 6 in Short Blades 3379 | D:4 | Reached skill level 1 in Throwing 3403 | D:4 | Found an iron altar of Okawaru. 3654 | D:4 | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple. 4087 | D:4 | Reached skill level 7 in Short Blades 4186 | D:4 | Reached XP level 7. HP: 34/44 MP: 6/6 4440 | D:4 | Reached skill level 8 in Short Blades 4440 | D:4 | Reached skill level 1 in Stabbing 4482 | D:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon 4616 | D:5 | Found a snail-covered altar of Cheibriados. 4652 | D:5 | Found Soejog's Antique Armour Shop. 4698 | D:5 | Bought a runed robe for 14 gold pieces 4698 | D:5 | Bought a runed robe for 14 gold pieces 4698 | D:5 | Bought an orcish buckler for 42 gold pieces 4734 | D:5 | Noticed Menkaure 4749 | D:5 | Defeated Menkaure 4749 | D:5 | Reached skill level 9 in Short Blades 4954 | D:5 | Found Irofeoto's Antique Armour Boutique. 4966 | D:5 | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 2 turns 4971 | D:5 | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 3 turns 4993 | D:5 | Reached XP level 8. HP: 49/49 MP: 7/7 6117 | D:6 | Reached skill level 1 in Slings 6204 | D:6 | Found a shattered altar of Ashenzari. 6235 | D:6 | Acquired Trog's third power 6359 | D:6 | Reached skill level 10 in Short Blades 6631 | D:7 | Reached skill level 1 in Shields 6670 | D:7 | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha. 6756 | D:7 | Found a deep blue altar of Sif Muna. 7056 | D:7 | Reached skill level 11 in Short Blades 7056 | D:7 | Reached skill level 1 in Unarmed Combat 7056 | D:7 | Reached skill level 1 in Spellcasting 7056 | D:7 | Reached XP level 9. HP: 44/53 MP: 7/10 8312 | D:8 | Reached skill level 12 in Short Blades 8851 | D:8 | Found a staircase to the Lair. 9106 | D:8 | Reached XP level 10. HP: 59/59 MP: 11/11 9553 | Lair:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts 9598 | Lair:1 | Got a brightly glowing chain mail 9609 | Lair:1 | Identified the +5 chain mail "Vuniocic" (You found it on level 1 of the Lair of Beasts) 10151 | Lair:1 | Reached skill level 1 in Evocations 10155 | Lair:1 | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging 10157 | Lair:1 | Reached skill level 13 in Short Blades 10475 | Lair:1 | Reached XP level 11. HP: 64/64 MP: 12/12 10504 | Lair:1 | Received a gift from Trog 12038 | Lair:2 | Reached skill level 5 in Throwing 12359 | Lair:2 | Reached skill level 5 in Shields 12407 | Lair:2 | Found a staircase to the Swamp. 12437 | Lair:2 | Reached skill level 14 in Short Blades 13205 | Lair:2 | Reached skill level 1 in Long Blades 13327 | Lair:2 | Received a gift from Trog 13568 | Lair:3 | Reached skill level 5 in Unarmed Combat 15649 | Lair:3 | Reached XP level 12. HP: 32/72 MP: 14/14 16357 | Lair:4 | Found a staircase to the Shoals. 16452 | Lair:4 | Reached skill level 5 in Armour 16944 | Lair:4 | Received a gift from Trog 17062 | Lair:4 | Found a frozen archway. 17209 | IceCv | Entered an ice cave 18052 | IceCv | Got a crude chain mail 18078 | IceCv | Identified the +2 chain mail of Royalty (You found it in an ice cave) 20323 | Lair:5 | Reached XP level 13. HP: 75/77 MP: 15/15 20894 | Lair:5 | Received a gift from Trog

Basically looking for tips on how to develop him further. Weapon choice is probably my biggest concern; I was training short blades until I started getting god gifts in long blades, and now I'm not sure which to use. I did train up long blades a bit, and I still have level 3 maces for my god gifted mace. The lair is starting to get very dangerous, I have no flaming weapon for hydras, and have thusly summoned brothers for both of the hydras I encountered. Should I be training maces or is getting a good dagger from elsewhere and coming back a better idea? I have a +0/+3 dagger of holy wrath stashed, I could use that.

Which of my two armors is better? I guess it mostly comes down to if I need the resist poison/cold, or otherwise use the +3/+3 damage one? How high should I train armor to use ring mails, and do I keep training dodge? For that matter, what skills should I be training in general...I have a box of beasts and disc of storms; are they worth holding onto for a berserker? Evocations is currently at level 3...

I assume at this point it would be a good idea to go back to the main dungeon for a while, before finishing lair/orc mines? Or should I head to the hive next since I have poison resistance? This is my highest level character ever so I want to try to get the most out of him

Edit: Playing a little bit longer has made my weapon choice a lot easier: I was god gifted a +1/+10(!) quick blade. I'll probably be using that for a long time. Sadly, no brand. What weapons should I carry with me for specific uses?

Monday, 28th November 2011, 16:19 by mageykun

With weapon choice, under Trog, the important thing is to make up your mind. If you train short blades, and long blades, and maces and fails, Trog has a lot of leeway with gift giving. It's better if you focus on one, so the God gifts focus too. That way you're more likely to get something you actually want. I mean, there's nothing wrong with changing your strategy for an awesome enough early weapon, but as you go on dithering only hurts.

Which should you chose? It's kind of a matter of what you want to do. Short blades are all about speed, and the best at stabbing, daggers even more so. You'll want either an awesome dagger to best exploit stabbing, a good quickblade to best exploit speed, or a great sabre for the highest base damage while still enjoying short blade speed and stabbing. For maces and flails you'd be best off sticking with a whip until you can find a demon whip- which is nearly as fast as a short blade, but with twice the base damage. The rest of the maces are pretty much two big and slow to bother with (at least on a 'lil Kobold). Long blades are bigger and more damaging than shortblades, and they cross train, but the best ones will be two handed at your size and cost you your shield. Also, they'll take the most skill levels to train up.

Looking at your stuff, I'd take the scimitar of speed. It's basically a quick blade with a better base damage. The electrocution on some of your long blades is nice, but having slow attack speed becomes dangerous, and electrocution is better on fast weapons anyways (since it doesn't scale with weapon damage, you're best off getting in as many hits as fast as possible).

Armor's a bit of a harder call to make, but I'd take the slaying and stealth one over the resists unless you really need them.

Edit in response to the edit: nice! Spare weapons might include antimagic for nasty casters, or flaming for hydrae. In my opinion, it would be worth training up slings now that you have a weapon you plan to keep- so your future God gifts go towards ammo instead of weapons you no longer need. A ranged attack is much more useful to carry around than extra brands.

Monday, 28th November 2011, 21:33 by randoark

A 1/10 quickblade will take you really far. You could easily get a win with one, I had a worse weapon on my KoBe win. If you don't get anything better a scroll of vorpalization can put a stab brand on it.

One thing i'd say is that you should really look for a leather armor with a resistance (preferably rPois or rF) or a robe of resistance or just rF/rC and use that, and level up stabbing and stealth. There is something very, very satisfying about your little berserker moving into a room full of dragons and other baddies and just stabbing everything as they peacefully sleep...

As a Trog worshipper, 8 in throwing may hurt you as he will be prone to gifting you throwing weapons here and there. You're good on weapon training, just level fighting, dodge, stealth, stabbing, make sure traps and doors is at level 12 to avoid pesky Zot traps, and that'll take you really far. Once you've got dodge, stealth, stabbing and especially fighting maxed you can level short blades to 27. I got evocations up to 8 because I got a nice rod with deflect missiles. Up to you whether you want to do so.

You do have rPois so Lair should be pretty good, if you ever see yaks, sheep, elephants they come in herds and you need to pick them off or stair dance. Black Mambas hit like a truck. Anything that looks scary or buff uniques you want to make sure you play VERY cautiously around them, best advice I had was to send a Brother in Arms at them and see how they do, if it looks bad just run instantly. Always have a clear path to your stairs up. Clearing Orcs should be doable, only thing is be very wary if there are orc mages as they have the potential to banish you to the abyss or orc sorcerers (red robed) as they can paralyze you and summon demons who can do all kinds of ugly things to you. Run when they summon stuff as they can drain your xp and mutate you. Other than that Orc is pretty good, be cautious at the vault and slowly pull stuff away. The stores can often help you out with filling early holes.

Keep going down into the dungeon until you feel like you are not able to handle things. If you see Yaktaurs or Yaktaur captains, be -very- cautious.

On my KoBe playthrough (closing in on #2 with a HeWz, 4 runes and clearing Zot, though I am contemplating trying for more) and had TONS of questions that all got answered and then some. you might find some good information, especially if you're playing 9.1 and not trunk.

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Tuesday, 29th November 2011, 08:43 by tasonir

Code:: Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.9.1 character file. 56891 Tasonir the Swashbuckler (level 15, -33/92 HPs) Began as a Kobold Berserker on Nov 28, 2011. Was a High Priest of Trog. Killed from afar by an ancient champion (45 damage) ... with an iron shot ... on Level 15 of the Dungeon on Nov 29, 2011. The game lasted 04:40:14 (35630 turns). Tasonir the Swashbuckler (Kobold Berserker) Turns: 35630, Time: 04:40:14 HP -33/92 AC 19 Str 19 XL: 15 Next: 18% MP 17/17 EV 20 Int 6 God: Trog [*****.] Gold 1008 SH 19 Dex 21 Spells: 0 memorised, 16 levels left Res.Fire : + . . See Invis. : . a - +5,+10 quick blade {god gift} Res.Cold : + . . Warding : . . t - +5 chain mail "Vuniocic" {rPois rC+ Str+3 Life Prot.: . . . Conserve : . R - +3 orc buckler Res.Acid. : . . . Res.Corr. : . O - +0 winged helmet Res.Poison: + Clarity : + Y - +2 orc cloak Res.Elec. : . Spirit.Shd : . m - -1 pair of elf gloves Sust.Abil.: . . Stasis : . L - +0 pair of boots Res.Mut. : . Ctrl.Telep.: . q - amulet of clarity Res.Rott. : . Levitation : . Q - ring of protection from fire Saprovore : + + . Ctrl.Flight: . j - +3 ring of evasion @: exhausted, slowed, very slow, somewhat resistant to hostile enchantments, fairly stealthy A: disease resistance, carnivore 3, saprovore 2 a: Burn Spellbooks, Berserk, Trog's Hand, Brothers in Arms, Renounce Religion You were on level 15 of the Dungeon. You worshipped Trog. Trog was exalted by your worship. You were full. You visited 2 branches of the dungeon, and saw 22 of its levels. You visited 1 portal chamber: ice cave. You collected 1058 gold pieces. You spent 70 gold pieces at shops. Inventory: Hand weapons a - a +5,+10 quick blade (weapon) {god gift} n - a +0,+2 quick blade r - a +3,+4 scimitar of flaming s - a +4,+3 vampiric sabre {god gift} x - a +1 blowgun Missiles d - 19 exploding +1 darts {god gift} e - 2 poisoned +0 needles h - 4 +1 needles of sickness {god gift} k - 35 +3 darts (quivered) B - 13 poisoned +4 needles E - 16 +0 darts of flame {god gift} K - 30 +4 darts Armour m - a -1 pair of elven gloves (worn) o - a +2 robe of cold resistance p - the +2 chain mail of Royalty {Int+3 Acc+3 Dam+3 Stlth++} (You found it in an ice cave) It affects your intelligence (+3). It affects your accuracy (+3). It affects your damage-dealing abilities (+3). It makes you much more stealthy. t - the +5 chain mail "Vuniocic" (worn) {rPois rC+ Str+3 Stlth+} (You found it on level 1 of the Lair of Beasts) It affects your strength (+3). It protects you from cold. It protects you from poison. It makes you more stealthy. C - a +1 orcish robe H - a +0 dragon hide L - a +0 pair of boots (worn) O - a +0 winged helmet (worn) R - a +3 orcish buckler (worn) T - a +3 orcish chain mail Y - a +2 orcish cloak (worn) Magical devices b - a wand of flame (15) u - a wand of paralysis (5) v - a wand of cold (6) F - a wand of frost (16) M - a wand of confusion (5) U - a wand of confusion (5) Comestibles c - 6 meat rations f - a rotting chunk of centaur flesh S - a beef jerky W - 4 chunks of dragon flesh Scrolls i - 5 scrolls of recharging w - 3 scrolls of remove curse y - 2 scrolls of enchant weapon II A - 2 scrolls of enchant weapon I G - 5 scrolls of fear N - 3 scrolls of fog P - a scroll of teleportation Jewellery g - a +4 ring of strength j - a +3 ring of evasion (left hand) q - an amulet of clarity (around neck) I - an uncursed ring of teleport control J - an uncursed amulet of resist corrosion {unknown} Q - a ring of protection from fire (right hand) X - an uncursed ring of see invisible Potions l - a potion of healing z - 3 potions of restore abilities D - a potion of speed V - 3 potions of agility Z - 2 potions of levitation Skills: * Level 11 Fighting + Level 15 Short Blades - Level 5 Long Blades - Level 3 Maces & Flails - Level 2 Slings + Level 10 Throwing - Level 7 Armour * Level 12 Dodging - Level 6 Stealth - Level 4 Stabbing - Level 7 Shields + Level 6 Traps & Doors + Level 8 Unarmed Combat - Level 1 Spellcasting + Level 7 Evocations You had 16 spell levels left. You didn't know any spells. Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations Branches: Dungeon (16/27) Temple (0/1) D:4 Orc (0/4) D:9 Lair (6/8) D:8 Swamp (0/5) Lair:2 Shoals (0/5) Lair:4 Vault (0/8) D:16 Slime: Lair:6-8 Hive: D:11-16 Altars: Ashenzari Cheibriados Elyvilon Kikubaaqudgha Makhleb Okawaru Sif Muna The Shining One Vehumet Xom Yredelemnul Shops: D:5: [[ Annotations D:6 stash in lower right corner D:12 Mini stash on west by stairs Lair:6 exclusion: 2 oklob plants Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations You recuperate from illness quickly. You are small and have problems with some larger weapons. You are carnivorous and can eat meat at any time. You can eat rotten meat. Message History You resist. You block the ancient champion's attack. The ancient champion barely misses you. The ancient champion hits you with a runed orcish great sword! You writhe in agony. The ancient champion gestures at you while chanting. The iron shot hits you! * * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * * You smell something rotten. (slot f) You block the ancient champion's attack. There is an open door here. The ancient champion casts a spell at you. You block the iron shot. The ancient champion hits you with an orcish great sword of pain. * * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * * You writhe in agony. * * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * * The ancient champion points at you and mumbles some strange words. The iron shot hits you! You die... ################################ #.....#.....#.....#............. #.....#.....#.....#.############ #...........'z.@..#.# #.....#.....#.....#.# #.....#....)#.....#.# ###################.# #.# #.# #.# ######### #.# #.......# #.# #.......# #.# #.......# #.# #.......# You could see an ancient champion. Vanquished Creatures Jozef (D:12) A dragon (D:16) Josephine (D:15) Erica (D:12) An ice dragon (Lair:4) A hydra (D:14) Nessos (D:16) 3 centaur warriors Erolcha (D:9) A skeletal warrior (D:15) An unseen horror (D:14) 9 hill giants 3 ice statues (Port) Urug (D:13) Maurice (D:9) 2 griffons A wolf spider zombie (D:15) 2 black mambas (Lair:5) 3 weapon mimics 3 slime creatures (D:15) A giant toad zombie (D:14) 6 spiny frogs An eye of devastation (D:15) 12 ugly things 5 komodo dragons 2 hill giant skeletons A polar bear (Lair:4) A rock troll zombie (D:16) 3 trolls 14 blink frogs A two-headed ogre (D:10) 11 giant toads 5 basilisks 2 wyverns A yak (shapeshifter) (D:13) 2 wraiths 53 yaks A wood golem (D:14) 6 hippogriffs A steam dragon (D:13) A hungry ghost (D:13) 2 manticores 4 vampire mosquitoes (D:13) The ghost of Tasonir the Cudgeler, an average KoBe of Trog (D:3) 2 fire drakes Menkaure (D:5) An orange crystal statue (D:14) 4 war dogs (Lair:5) 2 cyclops zombies (D:15) 3 necrophages A cyclops skeleton (D:14) 3 orc warriors 6 ogres 4 sky beasts 27 ice beasts 2 phantoms A yak zombie (D:15) 2 wolves (Lair:4) 7 centaurs 5 crocodiles 2 yellow wasp zombies 4 giant slugs 13 giant frogs A basilisk skeleton (D:15) 4 water moccasins An agate snail (Lair:5) 16 killer bees A boulder beetle (Lair:5) A big kobold zombie (D:7) 5 wights (D:10) 3 imps 10 orc priests A shadow (D:14) 4 goliath beetles Crazy Yiuf (D:3) A mottled dragon skeleton (D:15) 8 spiders (D:14) 17 orc wizards A big fish (Lair:2) 9 hounds 6 worker ants A worker ant zombie (D:12) A big kobold simulacrum (D:15) 10 iguanas 7 porcupines A scorpion (D:10) 17 sheep A worm zombie (D:5) 3 boggarts (D:13) 12 snakes 5 giant centipedes 57 green rats 13 gnolls 3 giant mites A snake skeleton (D:8) 8 worms A bat skeleton (D:6) 3 giant eyeballs 11 giant geckos 43 orcs 24 bats 14 giant cockroaches 24 goblins 13 hobgoblins 26 jackals 37 kobolds 15 quokkas 7 giant newts 2 giant spores 3 hobgoblin zombies A jackal skeleton (D:13) A kobold skeleton (D:4) 5 orc skeletons 18 rats A rat skeleton (D:7) 4 small snakes 12 ballistomycetes 12 fungi 20 plants 2 toadstools 794 creatures vanquished. Vanquished Creatures (collateral kills) 2 hydras A black mamba (Lair:4) A komodo dragon (Lair:6) 4 green rats (Lair:6) 8 creatures vanquished. Vanquished Creatures (others) A blink frog (Lair:3) An iguana (Lair:5) A giant centipede (Lair:1) A snake (D:9) A jackal (D:13) A quokka (D:15) 2 giant spores 2 goblins A rat (D:1) 3 fungi 2 plants (D:8) 2 toadstools 18 creatures vanquished. Grand Total: 820 creatures vanquished Notes Turn | Place | Note -------------------------------------------------------------- 0 | D:1 | Tasonir, the Kobold Berserker, began the quest for the Orb. 0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 1. HP: 14/14 MP: 0/0 77 | D:1 | Reached skill level 4 in Fighting 199 | D:1 | Reached XP level 2. HP: 18/20 MP: 1/1 697 | D:1 | Acquired Trog's second power 725 | D:1 | Reached skill level 1 in Short Blades 725 | D:1 | Reached XP level 3. HP: 18/24 MP: 2/2 1513 | D:2 | Reached skill level 1 in Traps & Doors 1528 | D:2 | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha. 1710 | D:2 | Reached skill level 1 in Stealth 1781 | D:2 | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting 1781 | D:2 | Reached XP level 4. HP: 24/29 MP: 3/3 1835 | D:3 | Found a radiant altar of Vehumet. 1874 | D:3 | Found a basalt altar of Yredelemnul. 2028 | D:3 | Found a glowing golden altar of the Shining One. 2704 | D:3 | Noticed Tasonir's ghost (average KoBe) 2726 | D:3 | Defeated Tasonir's ghost 2726 | D:3 | Reached skill level 5 in Short Blades 2726 | D:3 | Reached XP level 5. HP: 27/34 MP: 4/4 2787 | D:3 | Found a glowing drain. 2798 | D:3 | Reached XP level 6. HP: 29/39 MP: 5/5 2886 | D:3 | Noticed Crazy Yiuf 2892 | D:3 | Defeated Crazy Yiuf 3323 | D:3 | Reached skill level 6 in Short Blades 3379 | D:4 | Reached skill level 1 in Throwing 3403 | D:4 | Found an iron altar of Okawaru. 3654 | D:4 | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple. 4087 | D:4 | Reached skill level 7 in Short Blades 4186 | D:4 | Reached XP level 7. HP: 34/44 MP: 6/6 4440 | D:4 | Reached skill level 8 in Short Blades 4440 | D:4 | Reached skill level 1 in Stabbing 4482 | D:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon 4616 | D:5 | Found a snail-covered altar of Cheibriados. 4652 | D:5 | Found Soejog's Antique Armour Shop. 4698 | D:5 | Bought a runed robe for 14 gold pieces 4698 | D:5 | Bought a runed robe for 14 gold pieces 4698 | D:5 | Bought an orcish buckler for 42 gold pieces 4734 | D:5 | Noticed Menkaure 4749 | D:5 | Defeated Menkaure 4749 | D:5 | Reached skill level 9 in Short Blades 4954 | D:5 | Found Irofeoto's Antique Armour Boutique. 4966 | D:5 | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 2 turns 4971 | D:5 | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 3 turns 4993 | D:5 | Reached XP level 8. HP: 49/49 MP: 7/7 6117 | D:6 | Reached skill level 1 in Slings 6204 | D:6 | Found a shattered altar of Ashenzari. 6235 | D:6 | Acquired Trog's third power 6359 | D:6 | Reached skill level 10 in Short Blades 6631 | D:7 | Reached skill level 1 in Shields 6670 | D:7 | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha. 6756 | D:7 | Found a deep blue altar of Sif Muna. 7056 | D:7 | Reached skill level 11 in Short Blades 7056 | D:7 | Reached skill level 1 in Unarmed Combat 7056 | D:7 | Reached skill level 1 in Spellcasting 7056 | D:7 | Reached XP level 9. HP: 44/53 MP: 7/10 8312 | D:8 | Reached skill level 12 in Short Blades 8851 | D:8 | Found a staircase to the Lair. 9106 | D:8 | Reached XP level 10. HP: 59/59 MP: 11/11 9553 | Lair:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts 9598 | Lair:1 | Got a brightly glowing chain mail 9609 | Lair:1 | Identified the +5 chain mail "Vuniocic" (You found it on level 1 of the Lair of Beasts) 10151 | Lair:1 | Reached skill level 1 in Evocations 10155 | Lair:1 | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging 10157 | Lair:1 | Reached skill level 13 in Short Blades 10475 | Lair:1 | Reached XP level 11. HP: 64/64 MP: 12/12 10504 | Lair:1 | Received a gift from Trog 12038 | Lair:2 | Reached skill level 5 in Throwing 12359 | Lair:2 | Reached skill level 5 in Shields 12407 | Lair:2 | Found a staircase to the Swamp. 12437 | Lair:2 | Reached skill level 14 in Short Blades 13205 | Lair:2 | Reached skill level 1 in Long Blades 13327 | Lair:2 | Received a gift from Trog 13568 | Lair:3 | Reached skill level 5 in Unarmed Combat 15649 | Lair:3 | Reached XP level 12. HP: 32/72 MP: 14/14 16357 | Lair:4 | Found a staircase to the Shoals. 16452 | Lair:4 | Reached skill level 5 in Armour 16944 | Lair:4 | Received a gift from Trog 17062 | Lair:4 | Found a frozen archway. 17209 | IceCv | Entered an ice cave 18052 | IceCv | Got a crude chain mail 18078 | IceCv | Identified the +2 chain mail of Royalty (You found it in an ice cave) 20323 | Lair:5 | Reached XP level 13. HP: 75/77 MP: 15/15 20894 | Lair:5 | Received a gift from Trog 22775 | D:9 | Noticed Erolcha 22783 | D:9 | Defeated Erolcha 22783 | D:9 | Received a gift from Trog 22783 | D:9 | Reached skill level 5 in Long Blades 22967 | D:9 | Noticed Maurice 22982 | D:9 | Defeated Maurice 23699 | D:9 | Found a burning altar of Makhleb. 23918 | D:9 | Got a dull robe 23981 | D:9 | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines. 24044 | D:10 | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon 24169 | D:10 | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 4 turns 24365 | D:10 | Identified the cursed -5 robe of Abstinence (You found it on level 9 of the Dungeon) 24985 | D:11 | Received a gift from Trog 25116 | D:11 | Found a basalt altar of Yredelemnul. 25477 | D:11 | Received a gift from Trog 26069 | D:12 | Noticed Erica 26077 | D:12 | Defeated Erica 26261 | D:12 | Noticed Jozef 26277 | D:12 | Defeated Jozef 26277 | D:12 | Reached skill level 10 in Dodging 26372 | D:12 | HP: 1/78 [hill giant/giant club (23)] 26717 | D:11 | Received a gift from Trog 27505 | D:12 | Reached skill level 10 in Fighting 27976 | D:13 | Reached XP level 14. HP: 85/85 MP: 16/16 27997 | D:13 | Reached skill level 5 in Stealth 28091 | D:13 | Reached skill level 5 in Evocations 28290 | D:13 | Noticed Urug 28328 | D:13 | Defeated Urug 28736 | D:13 | Got a dazzling spear 29502 | D:14 | Reached skill level 15 in Short Blades 29502 | D:14 | Reached skill level 5 in Traps & Doors 30148 | D:14 | Found a shimmering altar of Xom. 33187 | D:15 | Entered Level 15 of the Dungeon 33187 | D:15 | Noticed Josephine 33397 | D:15 | Defeated Josephine 33397 | D:15 | Received a gift from Trog 33541 | D:15 | Reached skill level 10 in Throwing 33806 | D:15 | Found a white marble altar of Elyvilon. 34255 | D:15 | Received a gift from Trog 35222 | D:16 | Reached XP level 15. HP: 89/92 MP: 17/17 35268 | D:16 | Noticed Nessos 35306 | D:16 | Defeated Nessos 35446 | D:16 | Found a staircase to the Vaults. 35630 | D:15 | Killed from afar by an ancient champion

Was a really educational run, my final score was 56891 points - my previous top two were 6186 and 2749, for reference. +5/+10 quick blades don't need any brands to handle everything in mid game, if you manage to not run into things while slowed. I died after killing an ancient champion and when the gate opened to the next chamber I got too eager for my vault loot that I ran in while still slowed from berserk and found only the next ancient champion...I really could have saved myself by calling in a brother but I tried to make it back to the stairs because I'm way too eager to spam keys

I'm hoping I can start to replicate runs like this one but I'm wondering how much of it came down to finding fortunate gear in a timely manner.

For the record I had 4 quick blades spawn, I just dropped three of them since I had the 5/10. They were 0/2, 0/0, and 0/0. No brands on any of them. The three weak ones were all in one room with a Xom alter and an orange crystal statue behind it.

The final shot that killed me was an iron shot spell, 45 damage...anything I can do to reduce that damage or am I expected to be able to take that kind of hit? Had 92 max hp, I was just already far too worn down when I walked into the second champion. I can't seem to find a good source of magic resistance, which I'd really love. That and boots of running would really improve the character, but no luck on them so far.

The reason I was so far down in the main dungeon was I was looking for the hive. I still hadn't found it and I was at level 16 (it wasn't fully explored, it was in there somewhere)...wish it had spawned higher up, I was getting ready to move all of my stashes there.

Tuesday, 29th November 2011, 14:50 by hxy

The ancient champion vault has a series of rooms, and the champions can have a selection of nasty spells, so it looks like you should have left it alone till later.

Tuesday, 29th November 2011, 14:58 by cerebovssquire

The final shot that killed me was an iron shot spell, 45 damage...anything I can do to reduce that damage or am I expected to be able to take that kind of hit?

EV allows you to dodge them, SH can block them. If that fails AC reduces the damage.

Also, turn Short Blades off at 8 to use a quickblade or 14 to use a sabre. There's basically no point in having it any higher than 14.
8/14 is the point where said weapons reach their minimal attack delay.

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