Snake Sneak
Posts: 94
Joined: Saturday, 9th February 2019, 08:47
A Veteran’s Retraining Character #1
This is currently my roguelike resume:
Outstanding Nethack experience: Managed to ascend every role at least once in 3.4.3, and still have an excellent playing record in the 3.6 versions.
Exceeds Expectations ADOM experience: Achieved several ultra endings back when it was free and before Steam came into the scene. Haven't played the Steam version due to pricing though.
Exceeds Expectations DoomRL experience: Fully won the game several times, but only up to the Ultra-Violence Difficulty (I like being able to save my games, thank you very much, so hard pass to Nightmare) and even managed to obtain two Diamond Medals from my efforts there.
Acceptable Angband experience: Killed Morgoth after 5 attempts (all 5 characters of which were generated with random stats rather than a point-based roller).
Acceptable ZAP'M experience: Won a couple of games, but I got bored of that real fast.
Acceptable Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup experience: Escaped with the Orb in a 3-rune game as a Demigod Fighter after 4 attempts with randomly generated characters in version 0.23.
Acceptable Brogue experience: Escaped with the Amulet of Yendor once after 10 tries.
Acceptable Rogue experience: The deepest I got was level 16 I think.
Poor PRIME experience: Haven't made it into the robot town.
Poor Elona+ experience: The farthest I made it was in Act 1 to Lesimas: 30 after 4 tries in Loss mode. Much of that was due to the difficulty understanding the mechanics as well as the inability to deal with its stupid thirst mechanic.
Poor IVAN experience: The farthest I ever made was the first level of the Gloomy Caves after 4 tries.
Poor Sil experience: 350 feet was the farthest depth that I reached after 4 tries (all four characters had randomly generated stats, races, and house however due to my inner nature). I basically got owned by the difficulty of Sil’s monsters.
Dreadful Pixel Dungeon experience: I did not even reach the first boss after 4 tries, as I was only able to reach Depth 3 before getting killed in humiliating ways.
Despite my previous success with DCSS and some common sense when it comes to roguelikes, my knowledge is rusty, and I do not have a lot of knowledge with the game’s latest version. It is with this desire to get my skills updated that I bring you a series titled: A Veteran’s Retraining!
In this series, I will attempt to win a game by playing a randomly generated character. In this series that I am starting, the number before the hyphen signifies the attempt that I am playing, and the number after the hyphen signifies the goal that I have finished. I will be playing online for these challenges under the same name (wizard44). All characters I post will have started by having reached the Ecumenical Temple to get rid of very early deaths caused by inexperience. Other than that, the milestones will be the same as that of my previous “Complete N00b’s Journey” series. For this first character, I randomly generate a Barachi Summoner for my first character. With that, I bring you:
A Veteran’s Retraining: Part 1-1
I begin by training just the Fighting, Spellcasting, and Summoning skills, with a focus on Summonings. On D:1, I acquire a Book of Displacement and an Everburning Encyclopedia, which provides me with Conjure Flame and possibly Teleport Other and Sticky Flame as spells to learn in the future. D:2 gives me a ring of see invisible, while D:3 provides me with a +0 war axe of electrocution. Upon reaching D:4, I read my unknown scrolls and find that I have a scroll of blinking and identify my potions of degeneration (which I drop) and curing (thank goodness).
At D:5, I have a close call, when a Howler monkey wakes up a two-headed ogre and a centaur. I barely make it to the staircase thanks to my hopping ability, as the adder manages to poison me and the centaur gets several lucky shots at me. During my recovery attempts, I end up using the scroll of blinking to fend off an attack from a two-headed ogre. After recovering, I attempt to summon a lightning spire, but fail and summon a nameless horror, which makes clearing the level all but impossible. I find an amulet of regeneration, and try to escape upstairs, but fail to do so before having the nameless horror. With desperation, I fight the nameless horror, and surprisingly win the battle. I then proceed back to D:5, and kill the two-headed ogre with summons. I then get a wand of iceblast, identify my potions of heal wounds and lignification, and take on Crazy Yiuf, which my summons kill. I get his cloak of stealth and put it on, and also pick up a +1 mace of venom in his room. I also find the entrance to the Ecumenical Temple and save the game with a huge sigh of relief.
Should I choose Sif Muna, Kikubaaqudgha, or Cheibriados? I heard these three gods would be good for this type of character, but I am willing to entertain other options. I am leaning towards Sif Muna, but I have not found Sif Muna or Kikubaaqudgha’s altar yet. Which brings me to my other god question below.
If the god of choice is not found, do you generally try to wait to find that particular god’s altar, or make another choice based on what you found in the Temple before diving down any further?
Do I learn Conjure Flame, Teleport Other, or Sticky Flame, or should I save my spell slots for other spells that I could run into?
Which skills should I set for training? Right now, I am actively training Fighting, Spellcasting, and Summonings, with an emphasis on Summonings. Should I work on training weapon skills or other spell skills, assuming that I learn any of the other above spells? Is Dodging worth training at this point, or is it a waste?
Is it worth keeping/training a ranged weapon like a shortbow, or would I be spreading myself too thin?
The next goal for this guy is to clear the dungeons up to D:11 and prepare for the Lair of Beasts. My current character’s status is posted below. Let me know of any other tips that I should at this point.
- Code:
Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.28-a0-943-g17860c6 (webtiles) character file.
wizard44 the Summoner (Barachi Summoner) Turns: 7557, Time: 01:40:17
Health: 63/63 AC: 6 Str: 9 XL: 8 Next: 57%
Magic: 15/15 EV: 11 Int: 18 God:
Gold: 230 SH: 0 Dex: 13 Spells: 7/17 levels left
rFire . . . SeeInvis + v - +0 war axe (elec)
rCold . . . Faith . (no shield)
rNeg . . . Spirit . e - +0 leather armour
rPois . Reflect . (no helmet)
rElec . Harm . y - +0 cloak {Stlth+}
rCorr . Rampage . x - +1 pair of gloves
Will ..... (no boots)
Stlth +++....... f - amulet of regeneration
HPRegen 1.00/turn h - ring of see invisible
MPRegen 0.14/turn (no ring)
@: slow
A: amphibious, slowness 1, strong legs 1, +LOS
a: Hop
You are in the Ecumenical Temple.
You have visited 2 branches of the dungeon, and seen 6 of its levels.
You have collected 230 gold pieces.
Inventory:
Hand Weapons
k - a +1 mace of venom
n - a +0 shortbow
t - a +0 trident
v - a +0 war axe of electrocution (weapon)
Missiles
j - 17 sling bullets
Armour
a - a +0 robe
e - a +0 leather armour (worn)
x - a +1 pair of gloves (worn)
y - a +0 cloak of stealth (worn)
Jewellery
f - an amulet of regeneration (around neck)
h - a ring of see invisible (left hand)
Wands
u - a wand of iceblast (8)
Scrolls
d - 2 scrolls of amnesia
l - a scroll labelled NANWONIWOS
r - a scroll labelled JAITOGG QEESCH
Potions
b - a bubbling black potion
i - a fizzy black potion
m - 4 potions of curing
o - a fizzy silvery potion
p - 3 potions of heal wounds
q - 3 potions of lignification
s - a blue potion
w - a dark potion
Skills:
+ Level 5.5 Fighting
- Level 2.1 Dodging
- Level 1.7 Stealth
+ Level 5.3 Spellcasting
* Level 9.8 Summonings
- Level 2.0 Air Magic
You have 7 spell levels left.
You know the following spells:
Your Spells Type Power Damage Failure Level
a - Summon Small Mammal Summ 100% N/A 1% 1
b - Call Imp Summ 40% N/A 1% 2
c - Call Canine Familiar Summ 40% N/A 1% 3
d - Summon Lightning Spi Summ/Air 26% N/A 16% 4
Your spell library contains the following spells:
Spells Type Power Damage Failure Level
Summon Guardian Golem Hex/Summ 22% N/A 7% 3
Conjure Flame Conj/Fire 4% 6-21 50% 3
Gell's Gravitas Tloc 4% N/A 50% 3
Ignite Poison Fire/Tmut/Pois 4% N/A 50% 3
Lesser Beckoning Tloc 4% N/A 50% 3
Teleport Other Tloc 4% N/A 50% 3
Sticky Flame Conj/Fire 4% 2d3 88% 4
Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations
Branches:
Dungeon (5/15) Temple (1/1) D:5
Altars:
Cheibriados
Elyvilon
Gozag
Makhleb
Okawaru
Qazlal
Trog
Uskayaw
Vehumet
Wu Jian
Xom
Yredelemnul
Zin
The Shining One
Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations
You are amphibious.
You cover ground slowly.
You can hop short distances.
You have an extended range of vision and can be seen from far away.
Message History
You swap places.
There is a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple here.
You climb downwards. Welcome to the Ecumenical Temple!
Your summoned ally is left behind.
Found two altars.
There is a staircase back to the Dungeon here.
Press: ? - help, v - describe, . - travel
A snail-covered altar of Cheibriados.
You are a level 8 Barachi Summoner. You are 57% of the way to level 9.
Play time: 01:37:51 (7318 turns).
Zot will find you in 5999 turns if you stay in this branch and explore no new
floors.
Unknown command.
Found a glowing silver altar of Zin.
Found a glowing golden altar of the Shining One.
Found a bloodstained altar of Trog.
There is a snail-covered altar of Cheibriados here.
Found an iron altar of Okawaru.
There is a glowing golden altar of the Shining One here.
There is a bloodstained altar of Trog here.
Found a shimmering altar of Xom.
Found an opulent altar of Gozag.
Found a basalt altar of Yredelemnul.
There is a staircase back to the Dungeon here.
Partly explored, can't reach some places.
Search for what [? for help]? sif muna
Can't find anything matching that.
Press: ? - help, v - describe, . - travel
The floor.
There is a glowing silver altar of Zin here.
There is a staircase back to the Dungeon here.
Search for what [Enter for "sif muna", or ? for help]? vehumet
Search for what [Enter for "vehumet", or ? for help]? altar
Search for what [Enter for "altar", or ? for help]? veh
Search for what [Enter for "veh", or ? for help]? kiku
Can't find anything matching that.
Search for what [Enter for "kiku", or ? for help]? altar
Save game and exit?
Welcome back, wizard44 the Barachi Summoner.
Press ? for a list of commands and other information.
Okay, then.
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There are no monsters in sight!
Vanquished Creatures
A nameless horror (D:4)
A worm (D:5)
A jackal (D:1)
3 creatures vanquished.
Vanquished Creatures (collateral kills)
A two-headed ogre (D:5)
A necrophage (D:5)
A centaur (D:5)
2 phantoms (D:5)
A water moccasin skeleton (D:4)
A howler monkey (D:5)
2 jellies (D:5)
Crazy Yiuf (D:5)
An orc wizard (D:3)
3 gnolls (D:4)
8 adders
2 white imps (D:5)
2 worms (D:2)
2 dart slugs
3 orcs (D:3)
7 ball pythons
4 endoplasms
2 giant cockroaches
7 goblins
6 hobgoblins
7 jackals
7 kobolds
4 quokkas
7 bats
5 frilled lizards
5 rats
92 creatures vanquished.
Vanquished Creatures (others)
10 plants (D:5)
10 creatures vanquished.
Grand Total: 105 creatures vanquished
Notes
Turn | Place | Note
-------+----------+-------------------------------------------
0 | D:1 | wizard44 the Barachi Summoner began the quest for the Orb.
0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 1. HP: 13/13 MP: 3/3
0 | D:1 | Upgraded the game from 0.28-a0-938-gbc3f381 to
| 0.28-a0-941-g140ffa1
184 | D:1 | Reached skill level 1 in Fighting
184 | D:1 | Reached skill level 5 in Summonings
184 | D:1 | Reached XP level 2. HP: 21/21 MP: 1/5
202 | D:1 | Learned a level 2 spell: Call Imp
1078 | D:1 | Reached XP level 3. HP: 26/26 MP: 4/6
1082 | D:1 | Learned a level 3 spell: Call Canine Familiar
2942 | D:3 | Reached XP level 4. HP: 33/33 MP: 5/8
3096 | D:3 | Reached skill level 6 in Summonings
3107 | D:3 | Found a faded altar of an unknown god.
3214 | D:3 | Reached XP level 5. HP: 39/39 MP: 7/9
3282 | D:3 | Found a white marble altar of Elyvilon.
3282 | D:3 | Found a radiant altar of Vehumet.
3290 | D:3 | Found a burning altar of Makhleb.
3292 | D:3 | Found a faded altar of an unknown god.
3294 | D:3 | Found a hide-covered altar of Uskayaw.
4192 | D:4 | Reached XP level 6. HP: 47/47 MP: 6/11
4223 | D:4 | Learned a level 4 spell: Summon Lightning Spire
4540 | D:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
4562 | D:5 | Reached skill level 7 in Summonings
4691 | D:5 | Noticed a two-headed ogre
4704 | D:5 | Reached skill level 1 in Air Magic
5078 | D:5 | Noticed a necrophage
5557 | D:5 | Killed a necrophage
5558 | D:5 | Reached XP level 7. HP: 53/53 MP: 3/13
5698 | D:5 | Noticed a nameless horror
6242 | D:4 | Killed a nameless horror
6400 | D:5 | Killed a two-headed ogre
6401 | D:5 | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting
6401 | D:5 | Reached skill level 5 in Spellcasting
6401 | D:5 | Reached skill level 9 in Summonings
6401 | D:5 | Reached XP level 8. HP: 62/62 MP: 1/15
6700 | D:5 | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple.
7003 | D:5 | Found a stormy altar of Qazlal.
7161 | D:5 | Found a runed translucent door.
7162 | D:5 | Noticed Crazy Yiuf
7209 | D:5 | Killed Crazy Yiuf
7317 | Temple | Entered the Ecumenical Temple
7557 | Temple | Upgraded the game from 0.28-a0-941-g140ffa1 to
| 0.28-a0-943-g17860c6
Illustrated notes
Skill XL: | 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 |
---------------+----------------------+-----
Fighting | 1 2 3 5 | 5.5
Summonings | 5 6 7 9 | 9.8
Spellcasting | 3 4 5 | 5.3
Air Magic | 1 2 | 2.0
Dodging | | 2.1
Stealth | | 1.7
Action | 1- 3 | 4- 6 | 7- 9 || total
-------------------------+-------+-------+-------++-------
Melee: Short sword | 12 | | || 12
War axe | | 2 | 5 || 7
Cast: Summon Small Mamm | 67 | 61 | 32 || 160
Call Imp | 21 | 20 | 15 || 56
Call Canine Famil | 1 | 10 | 19 || 30
Summon Lightning | | | 2 || 2
Abil: Hop | 1 | 2 | 1 || 4
Use: Scroll | | 10 | 2 || 12
Stab: Distracted | | 1 | || 1
Armor: Robe | 1 | | || 1
Leather armour | 8 | 3 | 2 || 13
Dodge: Dodged | 27 | 12 | 5 || 44
Table legend: (Time is in decaauts)
A = Elapsed time spent in this place.
B = Non-inter-level travel time spent in this place.
C = Inter-level travel time spent in this place.
D = Time resting spent in this place.
E = Time spent auto-exploring this place.
F = Levels seen in this place.
G = Mean time per level.
A B C D E F G
+--------+--------+--------+--------+--------+-----+--------+
Total | 8419 | 7575 | 844 | 1039 | 4372 | 6 | 1403.2 |
Dungeon | 8132 | 7298 | 834 | 1039 | 4116 | 5 | 1626.4 |
Temple | 287 | 278 | 9 | 0 | 256 | 1 | 287.0 |
+--------+--------+--------+--------+--------+-----+--------+
Top non-repeatable levels by time:
D:4: 2133 daAuts
D:1: 1697 daAuts
D:5: 1562 daAuts
D:3: 1476 daAuts
D:2: 1261 daAuts
Temple: 287 daAuts
My dump can also be found here.