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Lair Larrikin

Posts: 18

Joined: Thursday, 18th August 2011, 23:25

Post Thursday, 19th September 2019, 11:09

CIP: an octo with an interesting weapon

Hi guys, this is weird. I was playing an OcWz and trying to delay training magical skills because I was thinking of going Sif (so I wouldn't waste the piety -- also, I find it fun to just train Fighting and go pure melee at the beginning).

Then on D:4 I found my best randart ever, something quite impressive indeed: the +9 trident of Gooshroeh (weapon) {speed, Fragile +Rage +Inv Str+9}

Really, this time we can say: "when you find a weapon and realize you're gonna bring it to the endgame" :D
I immediately switched to training Polearms like crazy (with a bit of Evo to kickstart those incredible bonuses) and started killed ogres and yaks like there's no tomorrow.

Now I (finally!) got to the Temple and I'm unsure about the god to follow: Gozag for the jewellery (and books)? Dith to eventually double up on melee attacks and conjurations? Vehu, to complement my melee with long-range attacks? Or should I stick to Sif, wait a long time and make sure to get Stone Statue? To do that I have to avoid dying earlier, though...

Ironically, in a shop on D:4 I also found a cheap (789 gold)... +8 longbow of velocity, +Inv! Too bad my trident is fragile, otherwise I would've been set on ranged attacks, too!

Anyway, I'm gonna stop now lest I have too much fun and end up killed like a moron. In the meantime, any advice on gods and general build strategy would be appreciated. This is really an octopus that would shine as a stone statue...

  Code:
 Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.24-a0-583-g87330a4 (tiles) character file.

Game seed: 4367291791455087159, levelgen mode: deterministic

Totysk the Poker (Octopode Wizard)                  Turns: 4602, Time: 00:21:28

Health: 61/61      AC:  1    Str: 16    XL:     9   Next: 19%
Magic:  13/13      EV: 13    Int: 23    God:   
Gold:   215        SH:  0    Dex: 12    Spells: 3/14 levels left

rFire    + . .     SeeInvis .   t - +9 trident {speed, Fragile +Rage +Inv Str+9}
rCold    x . .     Gourm    .   (no shield)
rNeg     . . .     Faith    .   m - +0 hat
rPois    .         Spirit   .   a - amulet of regeneration
rElec    .         Reflect  .   h - ring of fire
rCorr    .         Harm     .   u - +2 ring of dexterity
MR       .....                  (no ring)
Stlth    +++.......             (no ring)
HPRegen  0.60/turn              (no ring)
MPRegen  0.13/turn              (no ring)
                                (no ring)
                                (no ring)

@: no status effects
A: almost no armour, stealthy swim, amphibious, 8 rings, constrict 8, camouflage
1, gelatinous body 1
a: Evoke Berserk Rage, Evoke Invisibility


You are in the Ecumenical Temple.
You are hungry.

You have visited 2 branches of the dungeon, and seen 8 of its levels.
You have also visited: Ossuary.

You have collected 241 gold pieces.
You have spent 26 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Hand Weapons
 t - the +9 trident of Gooshroeh (weapon) {speed, Fragile +Rage +Inv Str+9}
   (You took it off an orc on level 4 of the Dungeon)   
   
   Attacks with this weapon are significantly faster.
   
   It affects your strength (+9).
   It lets you turn invisible.
   It lets you go berserk.
   It will be destroyed if unequipped.
Missiles
 b - 7 datura-tipped darts
 i - 24 poisoned darts
 o - 110 stones (quivered)
Armour
 m - a +0 hat (worn)
Jewellery
 a - an amulet of regeneration (around mantle)
 h - a ring of fire (left tentacle)
 u - a +2 ring of dexterity (right tentacle)
Wands
 x - a wand of acid (6)
Scrolls
 d - 2 scrolls labeled MUBLERREFY
 e - a scroll of fog
 g - 6 scrolls of teleportation
 k - a scroll of identify
 q - a scroll labeled REBBEA POPTYMI
 r - a scroll of fear
 v - 2 scrolls of remove curse
 y - 3 scrolls labeled LIWNEXKUXTI
 B - a scroll labeled JYCENW MYFAO
 C - a scroll labeled OMAXTAROEH
 D - a scroll labeled CAVUTO POKISOFU
Potions
 f - 2 potions of curing
 j - a potion of resistance
 l - 2 potions of might
 n - a potion of flight
 p - 3 potions of haste
 s - a purple potion
 w - 4 potions of agility
 z - a sapphire potion
 A - 3 potions of brilliance
Comestibles
 c - 9 rations


   Skills:
 - Level 5.0 Fighting
   Level 1.1 Short Blades
 * Level 5.1 Polearms
 - Level 2.0 Dodging
 - Level 2.6 Stealth
 - Level 3.0 Spellcasting
 + Level 4.8 Conjurations
 - Level 1.0 Summonings
 - Level 1.0 Translocations
 - Level 4.0 Fire Magic
 + Level 2.9 Air Magic
 + Level 3.5 Poison Magic
 + Level 4.0 Evocations


You have 3 spell levels left.
You know the following spells:

 Your Spells              Type           Power        Failure   Level  Hunger
a - Magic Dart            Conj           ####         1%          1    None
b - Mephitic Cloud        Conj/Pois/Air  ###.....     8%          3    ###....
c - Conjure Flame         Conj/Fire      #####...     5%          3    ###....
i - Call Imp              Summ           #.......     12%         2    ##.....
k - Blink                 Tloc           N/A          12%         2    ##.....

Your spell library contains the following spells:

 Spells                   Type           Power        Failure   Level  Hunger
 Slow                     Hex            #.......     17%         2    ##.....


Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (7/15)             Temple (1/1) D:7         Ossuary (visited)

Altars:
Ashenzari
Cheibriados
Dithmenos
Elyvilon
Fedhas
Gozag
Hepliaklqana
Kikubaaqudgha
Makhleb
Nemelex Xobeh
Okawaru
Qazlal
Ru
Sif Muna
Trog
Uskayaw
Vehumet
Wu Jian
Xom
Yredelemnul
Zin
The Shining One

Shops:
D:4 *   D:5 =


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You cannot wear most types of armour.
You are very stealthy in the water. (Stealth+)
You are amphibious.
You can wear up to eight rings at the same time.
You can use your tentacles to constrict eight enemies at once.
Your skin changes colour to match your surroundings (Stealth+).
Your rubbery body absorbs attacks. (AC +1, EV +1)


Message History

Some of the chunks of flesh in your inventory have rotted away.
Found a shadowy altar of Dithmenos.
Found a glowing silver altar of Zin.
Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha.
Found a shimmering blue altar of Sif Muna.
Found a snail-covered altar of Cheibriados.
Found a hide-covered altar of Uskayaw.
Found a bloodstained altar of Trog.
Found a hazy altar of Hepliaklqana.
Found a white marble altar of Elyvilon.
Found a blossoming altar of Fedhas.
Found a glowing golden altar of the Shining One.
Found a shimmering altar of Xom.
Found a radiant altar of Vehumet.
Found an ornate altar of the Wu Jian Council.
Found a shattered altar of Ashenzari.
All of the chunks of flesh in your inventory have rotted away.
You are feeling hungry.
Done exploring.
Done exploring.

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There are no monsters in sight!

Vanquished Creatures
  5 yaks (D:6)
  A sky beast (D:5)
  2 ogres (D:6)
  A centaur (D:5)
  A bullfrog (D:6)
  4 water moccasin zombies (Ossuary)
  A crimson imp (D:5)
  2 hounds
  A centaur skeleton (D:4)
  An orc priest (D:6)
  An orc wizard (D:3)
  A worker ant (D:6)
  3 big kobold zombies (Ossuary)
  2 mummies (Ossuary)
  A howler monkey skeleton (D:4)
  3 gnolls (D:5)
  6 adders
  4 adder zombies
  An adder skeleton (D:4)
  2 worms
  3 dart slugs
  A leopard gecko (D:5)
  9 orcs
  2 giant cockroaches
  4 gnoll zombies (Ossuary)
  3 goblins
  5 hobgoblins
  10 jackals
  4 quokkas
  A ball python (D:4)
  6 bats
  3 frilled lizards
  4 hobgoblin zombies (Ossuary)
  4 kobolds
  8 kobold zombies (Ossuary)
  4 orc zombies (Ossuary)
  A quokka skeleton (D:4)
  4 rats (D:1)
119 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (collateral kills)
  2 ogres
  A hound (D:4)
  A worker ant (D:4)
  3 orcs
  A goblin (D:1)
  A kobold (D:1)
  A bat (D:1)
10 creatures vanquished.

Grand Total: 129 creatures vanquished

Notes
Turn   | Place    | Note
-------+----------+-------------------------------------------
     0 | D:1      | Totysk the Octopode Wizard began the quest for the Orb.
     0 | D:1      | Reached XP level 1. HP: 11/11 MP: 4/4
   102 | D:1      | Reached skill level 1 in Fighting
   124 | D:1      | Reached XP level 2. HP: 18/18 MP: 4/6
   378 | D:1      | Learned a level 2 spell: Blink
   381 | D:1      | Learned a level 2 spell: Call Imp
   601 | D:1      | Reached XP level 3. HP: 13/25 MP: 7/7
   606 | D:1      | Learned a level 3 spell: Mephitic Cloud
   793 | D:1      | Found a snail-covered altar of Cheibriados.
  1553 | D:2      | Found a blossoming altar of Fedhas.
  1869 | D:3      | Reached XP level 4. HP: 27/33 MP: 4/8
  2057 | D:4      | Reached skill level 1 in Short Blades
  2057 | D:4      | Reached XP level 5. HP: 13/37 MP: 0/9
  2251 | D:4      | Identified the +9 trident of Gooshroeh {speed, Fragile
                  | +Rage +Inv Str+9}
  2400 | D:4      | Found Hugyog's General Store.
  2405 | D:4      | Bought a scroll of identify for 26 gold pieces
  2610 | D:4      | Reached skill level 1 in Polearms
  2654 | D:4      | Noticed an ogre
  2667 | D:4      | Reached skill level 1 in Evocations
  2675 | D:4      | Killed an ogre
  2675 | D:4      | Reached XP level 6. HP: 44/44 MP: 4/10
  2824 | D:5      | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
  2961 | D:5      | Noticed a sky beast
  2963 | D:5      | Killed a sky beast
  2963 | D:5      | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting
  2963 | D:5      | Reached XP level 7. HP: 43/50 MP: 9/11
  3320 | D:5      | Found Lowuq's Jewellery Boutique.
  3361 | D:5      | Found a sparkling altar of Nemelex Xobeh.
  3660 | D:6      | Learned a level 3 spell: Conjure Flame
  3681 | D:6      | Noticed a yak
  3695 | D:6      | Found a sand-covered staircase.
  3704 | Ossuary  | Entered an ossuary
  3752 | Ossuary  | Reached skill level 1 in Fire Magic
  3756 | Ossuary  | Reached skill level 5 in Polearms
  3756 | Ossuary  | Reached XP level 8. HP: 55/55 MP: 12/12
  3900 | D:6      | Noticed a yak
  3900 | D:6      | Noticed a yak
  3936 | D:6      | Killed a yak
  4174 | D:6      | Noticed a yak
  4174 | D:6      | Noticed a yak
  4196 | D:6      | Killed a yak
  4196 | D:6      | Reached skill level 1 in Air Magic
  4196 | D:6      | Reached skill level 1 in Poison Magic
  4207 | D:6      | Killed a yak
  4207 | D:6      | Reached XP level 9. HP: 53/61 MP: 5/13
  4347 | D:7      | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple.
  4362 | Temple   | Entered the Ecumenical Temple

Skill      XL: |  1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9 |
---------------+----------------------------+-----
Fighting       |  1  2  3  4     5          |  5.0
Short Blades   |           1                |  1.1
Polearms       |              2  3  5       |  5.1
Evocations     |              1  2  3  4    |  4.0
Fire Magic     |                    1  3  4 |  4.0
Conjurations   |                       4    |  4.8
Air Magic      |                       2    |  2.9
Poison Magic   |                       2  3 |  3.5
Dodging        |                            |  2.0
Stealth        |                            |  2.6
Spellcasting   |                            |  3.0
Summonings     |                            |  1.0
Translocations |                            |  1.0

Action                   |  1- 3 |  4- 6 |  7- 9 || total
-------------------------+-------+-------+-------++-------
Melee: Unarmed           |    16 |       |       ||    16
       Constrict         |    23 |    13 |    16 ||    52
       Tentacles         |    10 |     6 |    18 ||    34
       Spear             |    66 |    10 |       ||    76
       Hand axe          |    11 |       |       ||    11
       Trident           |       |    48 |   140 ||   188
       Short sword       |       |     3 |       ||     3
 Fire: Hunting sling     |     5 |       |       ||     5
 Cast: Magic Dart        |    26 |    16 |    31 ||    73
       Call Imp          |     2 |     8 |     3 ||    13
       Mephitic Cloud    |     1 |     1 |     1 ||     3
  Use: Potion            |       |     2 |       ||     2
       Scroll            |       |     5 |     4 ||     9
 Stab: Sleeping          |     2 |     7 |     6 ||    15
       Confused          |     1 |       |     2 ||     3
  Eat: Chunk             |     3 |     4 |     5 ||    12
Armor: Skin              |     5 |     4 |     3 ||    12
Dodge: Dodged            |    67 |    21 |    27 ||   115

Table legend:
 A = Non-vault XP
 B = Vault XP
 C = Vault XP percentage of total XP
 D = Non-vault monster count
 E = Vault monster count
 F = Vault count percentage of total count

                 A         B        C        D         E        F   
            +---------+---------+-------+---------+---------+-------
      Total |    2204 |     592 |  21.2 |      94 |      35 |  27.1
            +---------+---------+-------+---------+---------+-------
        D:1 |      34 |       0 |   0.0 |      23 |       0 |   0.0
        D:2 |      36 |       0 |   0.0 |      10 |       0 |   0.0
        D:3 |      64 |       0 |   0.0 |      12 |       0 |   0.0
        D:4 |     304 |       0 |   0.0 |      21 |       0 |   0.0
        D:5 |     346 |       0 |   0.0 |      14 |       0 |   0.0
        D:6 |    1414 |     133 |   8.6 |      11 |       3 |  21.4
        D:7 |       6 |       0 |   0.0 |       3 |       0 |   0.0
    Ossuary |       0 |     459 | 100.0 |       0 |      32 | 100.0
            +---------+---------+-------+---------+---------+-------

Zot Zealot

Posts: 957

Joined: Tuesday, 4th January 2011, 15:03

Post Thursday, 19th September 2019, 13:23

Re: CIP: an octo with an interesting weapon

I personally would stop training spell schools. I may train a little bit of spellcasting later instead: you spread over many schools.

I would train a lot of dodging and some fighting. The trident is indeed very good, so sooner or later I would train it to min delay. Later get a shield and train it a little bit.

Amongst the gods you mentioned only Gozag is strong, potion petition is stronger than any abilities the other gods offer, who are all on the weaker side of gods. However, from your comments it seems that your aim is not power (you mention shops for Gozag and statue form for Sif, both relies too much on luck and gets useful too late in the game). So choose whichever you enjoy playing the most.

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stepanxol

Lair Larrikin

Posts: 18

Joined: Thursday, 18th August 2011, 23:25

Post Thursday, 19th September 2019, 15:18

Re: CIP: an octo with an interesting weapon

yeah, my problem with Gozag is: I've got the most awful luck with shops and I kinda forget to use the potions. I died many times without using even the first, free petition!

So, I guess this is the time to learn to actually use my tools and do Gozag, so -- hopefully -- I'll finally manage to bribe a branch! I'm going Gozag, thanks for the advice!

Abyss Ambulator

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Joined: Friday, 16th January 2015, 20:20

Post Thursday, 19th September 2019, 19:54

Re: CIP: an octo with an interesting weapon

Conjure Flame + polearm is strong for a good while. Use it. Also, use Potion Petition and (later) Bribe Branch.

Ziggurat Zagger

Posts: 5300

Joined: Friday, 25th November 2011, 07:36

Post Wednesday, 25th September 2019, 19:32

Re: CIP: an octo with an interesting weapon

Just wanted to mention that the trident is in fact incredible for the early game, but it would fall off against well armored late game foes. This would only matter if you're going to use a lot of melee, though, if you just use melee for weak/medium threats and continue to be a wizard for the true threats, then the polearm would be fine. I just wouldn't recommend trying to melee an orb of fire (20ac) with it, is all.

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