CIP: One sneaky MiFi^Oka, first time ever in Extended


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Lair Larrikin

Posts: 27

Joined: Saturday, 15th September 2018, 16:54

Post Tuesday, 25th December 2018, 14:03

CIP: One sneaky MiFi^Oka, first time ever in Extended

Hi everyone, being still a noob, I would appreciate feedback on this MiFi. I have only won lots of MiBe^Trog, some MiFi, and one GrFi, all Oka, only 3 or 5 runes (I did 5 only when I managed to find the Alchemist Hat). This one turned into something very special, it's definitely the most awesome char I ever had. Want to try going for 15, problem is I never even tried extended before, only Crypt and Vestibule a few times. And also, I never seriously played with spells. Said that, I watched a lot of UV4 videos, so I have an idea what to expect.

So basically I started as a routine MiFi but then relatively early (after the Spider rune) I found myself with these 3 available: Shadow Dragon Scales from Oka, Ring of Shadows and Boots of the Assassin. Having never tried Stealth, I thought it would be cool to try, and well, it is, amazingly so. Got to max stealth, a few other lucky drops (Alchemist Hat and Mennas dropping an eudemon blade) and I feel invincible. Either I'm walking around levels unnoticed, or if someone notices me I just slaughter them (using Finesse when needed) and rest in a quiet corner unseen. Tabbed through Vaults, Depth and Zot, one-shot stabbing golden dragons, meleeing two bersekered golden dragons at once, two-shot stabbed Khufu, etc...

For a start, I went into Pandemonium, got Holy Pan as my second level, was ridiculously easy, killed the Seraph like it was nothing, so that gave me some confidence.

Any feedback on what order to do next braches would be appreciated (Tomb definitely last, I'm terrified of it, after two Greater Mummies almost killed me in Crypt), and also on the magic. Again, I never used magic seriously before, so I chose the spells that seem like good utility (and I know them from the Ultra videos). Are there any summons that would be better than these? Mainly to break LOS and get distance... but I guess antimagic from the vipers is really cool. Or any other spells uselful for this build? Also, what skill do I need to train to increase their power? Spellcasting or the schools? Thanks to the Hat I can scum abyss for XP if needed.

For the items, I can swap the scarf of resistance to get full rF and rC, losing one MR and AC from the cloak. Also I'm kinda torn between the rings. Is Slay+4 worth losing one MR? Does it make sense to get second pip of rN for some branches from the other ring? For spellcasting, the lowest failure rates are from the Str+5, Int+2 ring.

Partial dump below, doesn't fit into the post limit, full dump is on the pastebin:

https://pastebin.com/aKNUTT7y

  Code:
 Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.22.1 (tiles) character file.

Goratrix the Conqueror (Minotaur Fighter)         Turns: 116817, Time: 07:02:52

Health: 273/273    AC: 41    Str: 27    XL:     27
Magic:  41/41      EV: 31    Int: 21    God:    Okawaru [*****.]
Gold:   224        SH: 36    Dex: 27    Spells: 1/36 levels left

rFire    + + .     SeeInvis .   b - +9 eudemon blade (holy)
rCold    + + .     Gourm    .   F - +7 large shield "Tazxewk" {rC+ Int+3}
rNeg     + . .     Faith    .   A - +7 shadow dragon scales
rPois    +         Spirit   .   C - -2 hat of the Alchemist {rElec rPois rF+ rC+ rN+ MR+ rMut rCorr}
rElec    +         Reflect  +   B - +2 cloak {MR+}
rCorr    +         Harm     .   D - +2 pair of gloves {Dex+3}
rMut     +                      E - +2 pair of boots of the Assassin {Detection Stab+ Stlth++}
MR       ++++.                  G - amulet of the Tortoise {Reflect MP+9 Int+7 SH+2}
Stlth    ++++++++++             H - ring of Shadows {Umbra +Inv Stlth+, =R}
HPRegen  0.55/turn              J - ring of Pual {Str+5 Int+2 Dex+2 Stlth+}
MPRegen  0.27/turn

@: wreathed by umbra
A: retaliatory headbutt, horns 2, molten scales 1, thin skeletal structure 1,
clever 1, fire resistance 1, high mp 1
}: 6/15 runes: barnacled, slimy, silver, abyssal, demonic, gossamer
a: Heroism, Finesse, Renounce Religion, Evoke Invisibility


You are on level 3 of the Depths.
You worship Okawaru.
Okawaru is extremely pleased with you.
You are not hungry.

You have visited 13 branches of the dungeon, and seen 58 of its levels.
You have visited Pandemonium 1 time, and seen 2 of its levels.
You have visited the Abyss 6 times.
You have visited 1 bazaar.
You have also visited: Trove, Ossuary and Wizlab.

You have collected 10170 gold pieces.
You have spent 9946 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Hand Weapons
 a - a +9 double sword of draining
 b - a +9 eudemon blade of holy wrath (weapon)
Missiles
 S - 5 throwing nets (quivered)
Armour
 A - +7 shadow dragon scales (worn)
 B - a +2 cloak of magic resistance (worn)
 C - the -2 hat of the Alchemist (worn) {rElec rPois rF+ rC+ rN+ MR+ rMut rCorr}
   (You acquired it on level 14 of the Dungeon)   
   
   It protects you from fire.
   It protects you from cold.
   It insulates you from electricity.
   It protects you from poison.
   It protects you from negative energy.
   It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments.
   It provides partial protection from all sources of acid and corrosion.
   It protects you from mutation.
 D - a +2 pair of gloves of dexterity (worn)
 E - the +2 pair of boots of the Assassin (worn) {Detection Stab+ Stlth++}
   (You bought it in a shop on level 2 of the Orcish Mines)   
   
   It makes you much more stealthy.
 F - the +7 large shield "Tazxewk" (worn) {rC+ Int+3}
   (Okawaru gifted it to you on level 2 of the Vaults)   
   
   It affects your intelligence (+3).
   It protects you from cold.
 X - a scarf of resistance
 Y - a +2 pair of boots of running
Jewellery
 G - the amulet of the Tortoise (around neck) {Reflect MP+9 Int+7 SH+2}
   (You found it in a treasure trove)   
   
   [amulet of reflection]
   
   It shields you and reflects attacks.
   It affects your intelligence (+7).
   It affects your magic capacity (+9).
   It affects your SH (+2).
 H - the ring of Shadows (left hand) {Umbra +Inv Stlth+, =R}
   (You found it in a treasure trove)   
   
   [ring of stealth]
   
   It lets you turn invisible.
   It makes you more stealthy.
 I - the ring "Hurho" {rF+ MR- Slay+4}
   (You found it in a treasure trove)   
   
   [ring of protection from fire]
   
   It affects your accuracy and damage with ranged weapons and melee attacks
   (+4).
   It protects you from fire.
   It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments.
 J - the ring of Pual (right hand) {Str+5 Int+2 Dex+2 Stlth+}
   (You found it on level 13 of the Dungeon)   
   
   [ring of stealth]
   
   It affects your strength (+5).
   It affects your intelligence (+2).
   It affects your dexterity (+2).
   It makes you more stealthy.
 V - the ring "Yhoebodoax" {+Fly rN+ Str+4}
   (You found it on level 5 of the Vaults)   
   
   [ring of flight]
   
   It affects your strength (+4).
   It protects you from negative energy.
   It lets you fly.
 W - an uncursed amulet of regeneration
Wands
 n - a wand of clouds (22)
 q - a wand of scattershot (26)
 r - a wand of digging (66)
 w - a wand of paralysis (81)
 x - a wand of iceblast (67)
 Q - a wand of acid (57)
Scrolls
 d - 3 scrolls of silence
 h - 36 scrolls of identify
 j - 13 scrolls of magic mapping
 p - 10 scrolls of fear
 t - 2 scrolls of summoning
 u - 43 scrolls of remove curse
 L - 6 scrolls of fog
 M - 6 scrolls of blinking
 R - 2 scrolls of holy word
 T - 22 scrolls of teleportation
Potions
 c - 16 potions of curing
 f - 6 potions of magic
 g - 22 potions of heal wounds
 k - 3 potions of cancellation
 m - 8 potions of might
 o - 20 potions of brilliance
 s - 7 potions of mutation
 v - 6 potions of invisibility
 K - 8 potions of agility
 N - 3 potions of resistance
 U - 3 potions of haste
Miscellaneous
 i - 4 sacks of spiders
 l - a phial of floods
 y - 5 phantom mirrors
 z - the horn of Geryon
 P - 8 boxes of beasts
 Z - a lamp of fire
Comestibles
 e - 55 rations
 O - 6 chunks of flesh


   Skills:
 O Level 27 Fighting
 - Level 22.0 Long Blades
 O Level 27 Armour
 - Level 23.0 Dodging
 - Level 8.0 Stealth
 - Level 25.0 Shields
 - Level 5.0 Spellcasting
 * Level 13.7 Hexes
 - Level 12.0 Summonings
 - Level 12.0 Translocations
 - Level 12.0 Air Magic
 - Level 8.0 Invocations
 - Level 8.0 Evocations


You have one spell level left.
You know the following spells:

 Your Spells              Type           Power        Failure   Level  Hunger
a - Apportation           Tloc           ######       1%          1    None
b - Blink                 Tloc           N/A          1%          2    None
c - Passage of Golubria   Tloc           N/A          1%          4    ####...
d - Summon Mana Viper     Hex/Summ       ######..     3%          5    #####..
e - Summon Lightning Spi  Summ/Air       ######..     1%          4    ####...
f - Aura of Abjuration    Summ           ######....   4%          5    #####..
g - Silence               Hex/Air        ######....   3%          5    #####..
h - Spectral Weapon       Hex/Chrm       ####....     4%          3    ##.....
i - Darkness              Hex            ######....   13%         6    #######

Your spell library contains the following spells:

 Spells                   Type           Power        Failure   Level  Hunger
 Confusing Touch          Hex            ######       1%          1    None
 Corona                   Hex            ######.      1%          1    None
 Shock                    Conj/Air       ####         1%          1    None
 Summon Small Mammal      Summ           ####         1%          1    None
 Animate Skeleton         Necr           N/A          22%         1    None
 Beastly Appendage        Tmut           #.....       22%         1    None
 Flame Tongue             Conj/Fire      #....        22%         1    None
 Freeze                   Ice            #...         22%         1    None
 Infusion                 Chrm           #...         22%         1    None
 Magic Dart               Conj           #...         22%         1    None
 Pain                     Necr           #...         22%         1    None
 Sandblast                Erth           #.....       22%         1    None
 Call Imp                 Summ           ######..     1%          2    None
 Ensorcelled Hibernation  Hex/Ice        ####..       1%          2    None
 Slow                     Hex            ######..     1%          2    None
 Call Canine Familiar     Summ           ######..     1%          3    ##.....
 Confuse                  Hex            ######..     1%          3    ##.....
 Gell's Gravitas          Tloc           ######....   1%          3    ##.....
 Lesser Beckoning         Tloc           ######....   1%          3    ##.....
 Portal Projectile        Hex/Tloc       ######       1%          3    ##.....
 Recall                   Summ/Tloc      N/A          1%          3    ##.....
 Summon Guardian Golem    Hex/Summ       ######..     1%          3    ##.....
 Teleport Other           Tloc           ######..     1%          3    ##.....
 Tukima's Dance           Hex            ######..     1%          3    ##.....
 Airstrike                Air            ######....   1%          4    ####...
 Cause Fear               Hex            ######....   1%          4    ####...
 Poisonous Vapours        Pois/Air       ####..       3%          2    None
 Shroud of Golubria       Chrm/Tloc      ####......   3%          2    None
 Swiftness                Chrm/Air       ####....     3%          2    None
 Dazzling Spray           Conj/Hex       ####..       4%          3    ##.....
 Inner Flame              Hex/Fire       ####....     4%          3    ##.....
 Summon Demon             Summ           ######....   4%          5    #####..
 Summon Forest            Summ/Tloc      ######....   4%          5    #####..
 Static Discharge         Conj/Air       ####....     6%          3    ##.....
 Mephitic Cloud           Conj/Pois/Air  ###.....     13%         3    ##.....
 Invisibility             Hex            ######..     13%         6    #######
 Fulminant Prism          Conj/Hex       ####......   14%         4    ####...
 Leda's Liquefaction      Hex/Erth       ####......   14%         4    ####...
 Force Lance              Conj/Tloc      ####....     19%         4    ####...
 Summon Ice Beast         Ice/Summ       ####....     19%         4    ####...
 Dispersal                Tloc           ######....   26%         6    #######
 Shadow Creatures         Summ           N/A          26%         6    #######
 Corpse Rot               Necr           N/A          34%         2    None
 Passwall                 Tmut/Erth      #.......     34%         2    None
 Searing Ray              Conj           #.....       34%         2    None
 Song of Slaying          Chrm           #.......     34%         2    None
 Sticks to Snakes         Tmut           #.......     34%         2    None
 Sublimation of Blood     Necr           #.........   34%         2    None
 Throw Flame              Conj/Fire      #.....       34%         2    None
 Throw Frost              Conj/Ice       #.....       34%         2    None
 Metabolic Englaciation   Hex/Ice        ####......   36%         5    #####..
 Yara's Violent Unravell  Hex/Tmut       ####......   36%         5    #####..
 Lightning Bolt           Conj/Air       ####......   47%         5    #####..
 Conjure Flame            Conj/Fire      #.......     56%         3    ##.....
 Ignite Poison            Fire/Tmut/Pois #.......     56%         3    ##.....
 Ozocubu's Armour         Chrm/Ice       #.......     56%         3    ##.....
 Regeneration             Chrm/Necr      #.........   56%         3    ##.....
 Spider Form              Tmut/Pois      #.........   56%         3    ##.....
 Stone Arrow              Conj/Erth      #.....       56%         3    ##.....
 Vampiric Draining        Necr           #.........   56%         3    ##.....
 Animate Dead             Necr           N/A          92%         4    ####...
 Ice Form                 Ice/Tmut       #.......     92%         4    ####...
 Iskenderun's Mystic Bla  Conj           #.......     92%         4    ####...
 Petrify                  Tmut/Erth      #.......     92%         4    ####...
 Sticky Flame             Conj/Fire      #.......     92%         4    ####...
 Throw Icicle             Conj/Ice       #.......     92%         4    ####...
 Conjure Ball Lightning   Conj/Air       ####......   96%         6    #######
 Deflect Missiles         Chrm/Air       ####......   96%         6    #######
 Agony                    Necr           #.......     99%         5    #####..
 Blade Hands              Tmut           #.........   99%         5    #####..
 Bolt of Draining         Conj/Necr      #.........   99%         5    #####..
 Bolt of Magma            Conj/Fire/Erth #.........   99%         5    #####..
 Borgnjor's Vile Clutch   Necr/Erth      #.........   99%         5    #####..
 Dispel Undead            Necr           #.......     99%         5    #####..
 Excruciating Wounds      Chrm/Necr      #.........   99%         5    #####..
 Fireball                 Conj/Fire      #.........   99%         5    #####..
 Iskenderun's Battlesphe  Conj/Chrm      #.......     99%         5    #####..
 Lee's Rapid Deconstruct  Erth           #.........   99%         5    #####..
 Venom Bolt               Conj/Pois      #.........   99%         5    #####..
 Discord                  Hex            ######....   99%         8    #######
 Bolt of Cold             Conj/Ice       #.........   100%        6    #######
 Bolt of Fire             Conj/Fire      #.........   100%        6    #######
 Death Channel            Necr           #.........   100%        6    #######
 Freezing Cloud           Conj/Ice/Air   ###.......   100%        6    #######
 Iron Shot                Conj/Erth      #.........   100%        6    #######
 Ozocubu's Refrigeration  Ice            #.........   100%        6    #######
 Poison Arrow             Conj/Pois      #.........   100%        6    #######
 Simulacrum               Ice/Necr       #.........   100%        6    #######
 Statue Form              Tmut/Erth      #........    100%        6    #######
 Ring of Flames           Chrm/Fire      #.........   100%        7    #######
 Chain Lightning          Conj/Air       ####......   100%        8    #######
 Controlled Blink         Tloc           N/A          100%        8    #######
 Disjunction              Tloc           ######....   100%        8    #######
 Ignition                 Fire           #.........   100%        8    #######
 Lehudib's Crystal Spear  Conj/Erth      #.........   100%        8    #######
 Necromutation            Tmut/Necr      #.........   100%        8    #######
 Fire Storm               Conj/Fire      #.........   100%        9    #######
 Glaciate                 Conj/Ice       #.........   100%        9    #######
 Shatter                  Erth           #.........   100%        9    #######
 Tornado                  Air            ######....   100%        9    #######


Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (15/15)            Temple (1/1) D:6            Lair (6/6) D:8
 Shoals (4/4) Lair:3       Spider (4/4) Lair:3        Slime (5/5) Lair:6
    Orc (2/2) D:10            Elf (2/3) Orc:2        Vaults (5/5) D:14
  Crypt (3/3) Vaults:3       Tomb (0/3) Crypt:3      Depths (5/5) D:15
   Hell (1/1)                 Dis (0/7) Hell            Geh (0/7) Hell
    Coc (0/7) Hell            Tar (0/7) Hell            Zot (5/5) Depths:5

Altars:
Ashenzari
Cheibriados
Dithmenos
Elyvilon
Fedhas
Gozag
Hepliaklqana
Kikubaaqudgha
Makhleb
Nemelex Xobeh
Okawaru
Qazlal
Ru
Sif Muna
Trog
Uskayaw
Vehumet
Wu Jian
Xom
Yredelemnul
Zin
The Shining One
Beogh

Shops:
D:15 *   Orc:1 }   Orc:2 ([[%:   Elf:2 *}*[   Shoals:4 %   Vaults:3 (=
Vaults:4 ?   Vaults:5 ?}

Portals:
Hell: Depths:1 Depths:2 Depths:3 Depths:4 Depths:5
Abyss: Depths:3 Depths:4
Pandemonium: Depths:3
Ziggurat: Depths:5


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You reflexively headbutt those who attack you in melee.
You have a pair of horns on your head.
You are partially covered in molten scales. (AC +2)
You have a somewhat thin skeletal structure. (Dex +2, Stealth)
Your mind is acute. (Int +2)
Your flesh is heat resistant. (rF+)
You have an increased reservoir of magic. (+10% MP)


Edit: damn, I just noticed reading the file that I have forgotten to do Elf 3, lol. Will do that asap :o :lol:

Temple Termagant

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Joined: Tuesday, 25th December 2018, 06:20

Post Tuesday, 25th December 2018, 15:26

Re: CIP: One sneaky MiFi^Oka, first time ever in Extended

Looks like a solid attempt so far, but I a still very new. Summon alone are pretty good distractions. You do have blink, but you don't have many other good panic buttons learned, such as teleport other. The only other notable summon you have available is summon forest and shadow creatures, which can distract pretty heavily I think the key to being safe in later branches is more of the correct resistance. Elf 3 can have some pretty nice artifacts too for its relative difficulty. Let us know if you get anything of note there now that you notice you skipped it.

That being said I have only won with Mi/Be, and haven't seriously tried stealth either or managed to win with magic yet. Only have done a single spriggan enchanter run and that combination seems incredibly fragile. Would love to see someone more experienced take a look at your run.

Lair Larrikin

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Joined: Saturday, 15th September 2018, 16:54

Post Wednesday, 26th December 2018, 13:42

Re: CIP: One sneaky MiFi^Oka, first time ever in Extended

Progress update: got all the Pan runes, Gloorx was last and definitely the hardest, almost died and had to teleport away, but luckily managed to sneak up on him on the second try and one-shot stab him. Now on to the Hells. Also started working on Necromutation just for the heck of it. This character is really something else, the way all the items fit together is just amazing... I don't think I'll ever get something like this again, but it's great to be able to try both stealth and magic for the first time while also being a tank. The only thing missing is more rN+.

https://pastebin.com/ZgkTiiEf

Big shout out to Ultra and Demise, the videos are are huge huge help!

Lair Larrikin

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Joined: Saturday, 15th September 2018, 16:54

Post Wednesday, 26th December 2018, 15:36

Re: CIP: One sneaky MiFi^Oka, first time ever in Extended

Oh well, turns out I don't have the patience to deal with all the torment and stuff... dipped into the Hells but quickly noped out of there and escaped with 10 runes. Definitely going to strive for extended from now on, but with something more noob-suitable, I guess Gargoyles.

https://pastebin.com/NhqtTqFn

Vestibule Violator

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Joined: Monday, 21st November 2011, 07:40

Post Wednesday, 2nd January 2019, 21:53

Re: CIP: One sneaky MiFi^Oka, first time ever in Extended

Goratrix wrote:Oh well, turns out I don't have the patience to deal with all the torment and stuff... dipped into the Hells but quickly noped out of there and escaped with 10 runes. Definitely going to strive for extended from now on, but with something more noob-suitable, I guess Gargoyles.

https://pastebin.com/NhqtTqFn

Gargoyles have one main weakness in the late-game: hellfire. It does irresistable flat damage, which really stacks up with a gargoyle's reduced HP. Otherwise, they're almost endgame-proof.
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