CIP: VpEn^Sif Reflections

Saturday, 1st September 2018, 19:31 by edgefigaro

Working on a VpEn^Sif, haven't played sif since the rework, wanted to get some thoughts down about the character.

History
Sif was an early altar so I figured I'd try it out. I like the new sif. Early pickups were a ring of prot fire and a ring of ice, followed by a book of callings and a +2 archmage robe. Character transitioned from rolling an double boosted ensorcelled hibernation into an ice beast summoner.

Had a major problem at snake 3. Four uniques, Vashnia was a terror. Character is weak to ranged attacks. Bounced to swamp, but couldn't get a foothold inside of swamp 1, greeted by a Nikola and a shambling mangrove. I got nikola down but didn't have the juice to deal with the mangrove. Luckilly Sif came through with summon forest which stabilized the character. I picked up mana viper shortly thereafter and I feel like I'm on pace again.

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Finished up vaults 1 now, Yaktaurs are the biggest problem thus far, but wardens could be lethal too. I just bought the shield of resistance in a caravan and am training shields to bring it online. It should help significantly against ranged attacks, which are the bane of my existence.

I have a few skilling inefficiencies where I left some skills on for too long (i'm looking at you charms, necromancy, conjurations). I'm not too worried about them.

Observations
Observation 0: Goddamn I miss spell invisibility. I really wish potion invisibility was more common now that the spell was removed. (edit: i'm an idiot, spell invis is still in the game)

Observation 1: Hexer Summoner is solid but not straightforward. The two playstyles differ too much. Approaching a fight as a hexer is a silent solo affair. Approaching a fight as a summoner, especially right now as a forest summoner, is a noisy brawl. Hexes help mop up fights after a summon battle has thinned the herd, but these fights frequently are not 'important'. Through Orc, Lair, and D15 I was generally approaching nearly everything as a hexer, but setting up on fights as a hexer in sbranches and vaults leaves you more vulnerable as monsters are often quicker and come in larger packs. At some point in time i took off my ring of ice because ensorcelled hibernation wasn't my bread and butter anymore.

If I choose to initiate a fight as a hexer i give up the chance to initiate as a summoner, and vice versa. The two different initiations don't transition well into each other. This is made more sever by (1) the lack of invisibility, (2) my use of a staff of power, but mitigated to some extent by Sif Muna. At least enough stealth usually gives me the choice of how to initiate.

Observation 2: I'm kind of underwhelmed by hexes midgame at the moment. I have yaras and mana vipers both of which i've used a good amount to good effect. I learned metabolic englaciation but never cast it, forgetting it in favor of mana vipers (i've never really managed to make englaciaton useful on any character.) I have darkness and silence available, but neither seem incredibly appealing. Maybe I'm undervaluing darkness. Silence is trash on this character, though on a different (beefier) hexer build would fine. Invisibility was always the glue that held the school together, and right now it sorta feels like where poison school has been for a while. At least discord gives hexes an endgame, however.

Hexes as a school makes a decent amount of sense now that I understand spell invis is just reduced in availability, not removed. I still had plenty of tools to struggle through the midgame, and honestly, invis wouldn't have helped in snake where I had the most problems. I would have been less worried about yaktaurs with spell invis.

Sidenote: Both metabolic englaciation and ozo's refrigeration feel underwhelming. Do people use these spells to good effect?

Observation 3: Sif Muna is pretty nice. I estimate divine energy works out to a bigger base MP pool and ~triple?~ MP regen (edit: this is probably wrong) when you are out of MP and are using it. Furthermore, it doesn't feel like i'm helpless when I'm out of MP, which is a problem specifically for summoners but also mages in general. I suspect mages that draw out fights into longer time consuming affairs use it to better effect than glass blastermages who are chaingunning spells to end fights as quickly as possible or, alternatively, reset as quickly as possible.

Divine energy just feels -nice- with this character.

I'm probably not using channel enough, but channel is also more geared to the aforementioned blastermage.

Observation 4: Vampire summoners are the best summoner. Not worrying about food feels so good. If you hate vampires because of the fiddly food system, and hate summoners because you're always starving, play a vampire summoner. They feel great.

Looking Ahead
I'm missing one major spell, blink, which is a snap learn as soon as I get it. It would have gotten me out of a couple jams cleanly. I'm low on blink scrolls, and teleing before I've cleared half a floor is a shot in the dark with a character this fragile.

Vaults could give me a small room with a warden where I can't escape and can't forest. I have 21 wand of acid that hopefully should be able to get me out of these kinds of encounter if they come up as long as I start gunning early before a fight turns sour, and i'll re-evaluate if I run low on charges.

Mennas is terrifying in general. Mennas spawning with a warden unfavorably is probably gameover.

I'm really hoping going from +2 buckler to the +2 shield of resistance gives me some stability vs ranged attacks. DMsl is not available. I'm not sure if it is a priority if it was. I'll get a feel for how stable the shield makes me. I feel like DMsl at this point pushes me towards freezing cloud, whereas if I can delay DMsl til after Depths I can omit Fcloud.

Forest is not amazing in Depths like it is in sbranches, the dryad gets killed too quickly. Forest is functional in vaults but does not troubleshoot all problems. Shadow creatures is available, however, and gives a natural transition into depths with minimal investment.

Yara's is strong in elf, but I don't like clearing elf 1 and 2 as a vampire. Those floors are the bloodbank if needed. I'll probably do hall of blades looking for a quickblade. I might attempt elf 3 pre-depths. I don't know if yaras + summons is enough to carry the vault on this character though. It might depends on which vault spawns.

Discord, XXX, and the Great Tentacle are all missing from my spellbook. Cblink is available, disjunction is not. I don't know how quickly these holes are going to be filled by sif. I'd really like discord and blink for depths, I'd like a bigger summon than shadow creatures for the endgame, and I'd really like disjunction for extended. Tentacle + CBlink + Disjunction + bat + darkness is just a damn quick and sneaky character with just enough gas to punch through something if you need to.

Alternatively, death channel and shadow creatures might let me steamroll depths, but I don't have haunt to build into, and have never really been impressed with the spell. Haunt might work better than previous experiences for this character though.

Dragon's call is available. Its not a bad spell. I usually favor the previously mentioned summons but I can play with it too. It probably works pretty well with channel. I've never felt that the spell brings the same oomph that the other lvl 9s do.

I haven't decided if I'm going extended or not. I really like the way vampires play in extended, bloodless bat ninjas all runes (one of the funnest ways to play extended IMO), but as vaults comes to a close, it is approaching the time to make the decision. I'll probably do extended just to see how sif extended feels, regardless of whether or not it is a good choice.

I don't know how much value i'm getting out of archmage at the moment.

Code:: Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.23-a0-143-g1adec7b (webtiles) character file. edgefigaro the Unseen (Vampire Enchanter) Turns: 50160, Time: 03:25:39 Health: 132/132 AC: 17 Str: 7 XL: 18 Next: 5% Magic: 32/32 EV: 23 Int: 21 God: Sif Muna [*****.] Gold: 828 SH: 8 Dex: 19 Spells: 4/37 levels left rFire + . . SeeInvis + a - +6 short sword (flame) rCold + + . Gourm . T - +2 buckler rNeg + + + Faith . R - +2 robe {Archmagi} rPois âˆž Spirit . h - +2 helmet rElec + Reflect . v - +2 cloak rCorr . Harm . p - +2 pair of gloves MR ++++. Clarity + S - +2 pair of boots Stlth ++++++++.. B - amulet of the Four Winds {rN+ MR+++ Clar} HPRegen 0.00/turn E - ring "Tichiath" {rElec EV+1} MPRegen 0.23/turn i - ring of protection from fire @: bloodless, non-regenerating, divine energy A: fangs 3, see invisible, unbreathing }: 2/15 runes: decaying, serpentine a: Bat Form, Stop Divine Energy, Channel Magic, Forget Spell, Renounce Religion You are on level 1 of the Vaults. You worship Sif Muna. Sif Muna is extremely pleased with you. You are bloodless. You have visited 6 branches of the dungeon, and seen 32 of its levels. You have visited 1 bazaar. You have also visited: Labyrinth, Sewer, Bailey and Ice Cave. You have collected 3598 gold pieces. You have spent 2770 gold pieces at shops. Inventory: Hand Weapons a - a +6 short sword of flaming (weapon) Missiles d - 37 tomahawks (quivered) Armour h - a +2 helmet (worn) p - a +2 pair of gloves (worn) v - a +2 cloak (worn) x - the +2 shield of Resistance {rF+ rC+ MR+} (You bought it in a shop in a bazaar) It protects you from fire. It protects you from cold. It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments. R - a +2 robe of the Archmagi (worn) S - a +2 pair of boots (worn) T - a +2 buckler (worn) Magical Staves b - an uncursed staff of power Jewellery i - a ring of protection from fire (right hand) B - the amulet of the Four Winds (around neck) {rN+ MR+++ Clar} (You found it in a labyrinth) [amulet of nothing] It protects you from negative energy. It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments. It protects you against confusion. E - the ring "Tichiath" (left hand) {rElec EV+1} (You bought it in a shop on level 2 of the Snake Pit) [ring of evasion] It affects your evasion (+1). It insulates you from electricity. Wands r - a wand of polymorph (68) z - a wand of disintegration (18) D - a wand of flame (149) I - a wand of acid (21) J - a wand of paralysis (34) K - a wand of digging (30) V - a wand of iceblast (10) Scrolls f - 2 scrolls of amnesia k - 12 scrolls of remove curse m - 5 scrolls of vulnerability n - 6 scrolls of enchant weapon t - 5 scrolls labeled OSAKLUHUEFF w - a scroll of summoning y - 4 scrolls of fear F - 2 scrolls of blinking G - 8 scrolls of immolation O - 7 scrolls of teleportation Q - a scroll of enchant armour W - 2 scrolls labeled UGEDEI LYME Y - 4 scrolls of magic mapping Z - 4 scrolls of identify Potions c - 5 potions of might g - 4 potions of resistance j - 4 potions of brilliance l - a potion of flight o - 2 potions of ambrosia q - 42 potions of blood u - 16 potions of curing A - 2 potions of cancellation C - 3 potions of mutation L - 4 potions of invisibility M - 8 potions of heal wounds N - 5 potions of haste U - a potion of berserk rage X - 2 potions of magic Miscellaneous e - a box of beasts s - a phantom mirror H - 2 sacks of spiders P - a fan of gales Skills: - Level 9.3 Fighting - Level 11.9(12.0) Short Blades Level 0.5(7.0) Long Blades - Level 4.8 Armour - Level 12.1 Dodging - Level 15.9 Stealth + Level 7.7 Shields - Level 10.0 Spellcasting Level 2.2 Conjurations - Level 12.1 Hexes - Level 8.2 Charms - Level 7.0 Summonings - Level 8.1 Necromancy - Level 6.2 Translocations - Level 7.2 Transmutations - Level 4.0 Ice Magic - Level 8.2 Invocations - Level 7.7 Evocations You have 4 spell levels left. You know the following spells: Your Spells Type Power Failure Level Hunger a - Summon Mana Viper Hex/Summ ######.. 3% 5 ####... b - Ensorcelled Hibernat Hex/Ice ###### 1% 2 None c - Confuse Hex #######. 1% 3 None d - Tukima's Dance Hex #######. 1% 3 None f - Summon Forest Summ/Tloc ######.... 12% 5 ####... g - Yara's Violent Unrav Hex/Tmut ######.... 3% 5 ####... h - Call Canine Familiar Summ ######.. 1% 3 None i - Summon Ice Beast Ice/Summ ######.. 7% 4 ##..... r - Regeneration Chrm/Necr ######.... 1% 3 None Your spell library contains the following spells: Spells Type Power Failure Level Hunger Animate Skeleton Necr N/A 1% 1 None Apportation Tloc ###### 1% 1 None Beastly Appendage Tmut ###### 1% 1 None Confusing Touch Hex ###### 1% 1 None Corona Hex ####### 1% 1 None Freeze Ice #### 1% 1 None Infusion Chrm #### 1% 1 None Pain Necr #### 1% 1 None Summon Small Mammal Summ #### 1% 1 None Blink Tloc N/A 1% 2 None Call Imp Summ ######.. 1% 2 None Corpse Rot Necr N/A 1% 2 None Shroud of Golubria Chrm/Tloc ######.... 1% 2 None Slow Hex #######. 1% 2 None Song of Slaying Chrm ######.. 1% 2 None Sticks to Snakes Tmut ######.. 1% 2 None Sublimation of Blood Necr ######.... 1% 2 None Swiftness Chrm/Air #####... 1% 2 None Dazzling Spray Conj/Hex ###### 1% 3 None Gell's Gravitas Tloc ######.... 1% 3 None Inner Flame Hex/Fire ######.. 1% 3 None Lesser Beckoning Tloc ######.... 1% 3 None Portal Projectile Hex/Tloc ###### 1% 3 None Spectral Weapon Hex/Chrm ######.. 1% 3 None Summon Guardian Golem Hex/Summ ######.. 1% 3 None Teleport Other Tloc ######.. 1% 3 None Vampiric Draining Necr ######.... 1% 3 None Cause Fear Hex #######... 1% 4 ##..... Throw Frost Conj/Ice #####. 2% 2 None Animate Dead Necr N/A 2% 4 ##..... Flame Tongue Conj/Fire ###.. 4% 1 None Shock Conj/Air ###. 4% 1 None Spider Form Tmut/Pois #####..... 4% 3 None Passage of Golubria Tloc N/A 4% 4 ##..... Leda's Liquefaction Hex/Erth ######.... 5% 4 ##..... Ice Form Ice/Tmut ######.. 6% 4 ##..... Poisonous Vapours Pois/Air ###... 10% 2 None Conjure Flame Conj/Fire ###..... 12% 3 None Static Discharge Conj/Air ###..... 12% 3 None Mephitic Cloud Conj/Pois/Air ###..... 14% 3 None Petrify Tmut/Erth #####... 14% 4 ##..... Summon Lightning Spire Summ/Air #####... 16% 4 ##..... Throw Icicle Conj/Ice #####... 19% 4 ##..... Sticky Flame Conj/Fire ###..... 38% 4 ##..... Airstrike Air ###....... 54% 4 ##..... Agony Necr ######.. 6% 5 ####... Dispel Undead Necr ######.. 6% 5 ####... Excruciating Wounds Chrm/Necr ######.... 6% 5 ####... Metabolic Englaciation Hex/Ice ######.... 6% 5 ####... Darkness Hex #######... 7% 6 ######. Blade Hands Tmut ######.... 10% 5 ####... Summon Demon Summ ######.... 10% 5 ####... Silence Hex/Air ######.... 14% 5 ####... Iskenderun's Battlesphe Conj/Chrm #####... 21% 5 ####... Bolt of Draining Conj/Necr #####..... 22% 5 ####... Borgnjor's Vile Clutch Necr/Erth #####..... 32% 5 ####... Shadow Creatures Summ N/A 50% 6 ######. Simulacrum Ice/Necr ######.... 63% 6 ######. Lightning Bolt Conj/Air ###....... 75% 5 ####... Venom Bolt Conj/Pois ###....... 75% 5 ####... Bolt of Magma Conj/Fire/Erth ###....... 78% 5 ####... Bolt of Cold Conj/Ice #####..... 95% 6 ######. Dragon Form Tmut ######.... 96% 7 ####### Summon Greater Demon Summ ######.... 97% 7 ####### Summon Hydra Summ ######.... 97% 7 ####### Bolt of Fire Conj/Fire ###....... 99% 6 ######. Freezing Cloud Conj/Ice/Air ####...... 99% 6 ######. Iron Shot Conj/Erth ###....... 99% 6 ######. Poison Arrow Conj/Pois ###....... 99% 6 ######. Orb of Destruction Conj ####...... 100% 7 ####### Ring of Flames Chrm/Fire #####..... 100% 7 ####### Spellforged Servitor Conj/Summ #####..... 100% 7 ####### Chain Lightning Conj/Air ###....... 100% 8 ####### Controlled Blink Tloc N/A 100% 8 ####### Lehudib's Crystal Spear Conj/Erth ###....... 100% 8 ####### Dragon's Call Summ ######.... 100% 9 ####### Fire Storm Conj/Fire ###....... 100% 9 ####### Glaciate Conj/Ice #####..... 100% 9 ####### Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations Branches: Dungeon (15/15) Temple (0/1) D:6 Lair (6/6) D:11 Swamp (4/4) Lair:2 Snake (4/4) Lair:3 Slime (0/5) Lair:5 Orc (2/2) D:9 Elf (0/3) Orc:2 Vaults (1/5) D:14 Depths (0/5) D:15 Altars: Elyvilon Fedhas Okawaru Sif Muna Xom Beogh Jiyva Shops: D:6 * D:8 } D:12 } Orc:1 ! Orc:2 (=%% Snake:2 }== Snake:3 ?[=! Portals: Trove: D:14 (give 9 potions of agility) Annotations: D:5 2 transporters, Jivvin's ghost, novice DsNe D:10 1 runed door, kazak's ghost, novice OgTm Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations You do not heal naturally. You are immune to poison. You have razor-sharp teeth. You have supernaturally acute eyesight. (SInv) You can survive without breathing. Message History There is an open door here. There is an open door here. There is an open door here. There is an open door here. You see here 29 stones. You feel devoid of blood! There is an open door here. There is an open door here. There is an open door here. There is an open door here. Items here: ( )) [ a scale mail; 19 bolts; a falchion; an arbalest There is an open door here. You open the door. There is an open door here. Done exploring. Done exploring. Done exploring. Done exploring. 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Vanquished Creatures Vashnia (Snake:3) Nikola (Swamp:1) Asterion (Snake:2) An acid blob (Lair:6) A nagaraja (Snake:2) An azure jelly (Lair:6) An ironheart preserver (Vaults:1) A very ugly thing (Swamp:4) Azrael (Snake:3) A minotaur (Lab) Snorg (Lair:3) Josephine (D:9) 4 fire dragons 2 yaktaur captains A death ooze (Lair:6) Harold (D:10) 3 hydras 4 naga warriors 2 ice dragons (Vaults:1) 2 centaur warriors 11 anacondas A death knight (D:10) 2 ogre magi (Vaults:1) 10 alligators 5 two-headed ogres A catoblepas (Lair:6) An alligator (shapeshifter) (D:15) 5 death yaks (Lair:6) A tengu warrior (D:14) A deep troll shaman (Lair:6) Sonja (D:11) 7 naga sharpshooters 2 deep elf knights (Vaults:1) Nergalle (D:11) A salamander mystic (Snake:3) 7 shock serpents A sixfirhy (D:13) A sea snake (Snake:4) 4 unseen horrors 9 swamp dragons 2 glowing orange brains Pikel (D:7) A deep elf archer (Vaults:1) 14 orc knights 2 naga ritualists (Snake:3) 3 deep elf magi A wizard (Vaults:1) An ironbrand convoker (Vaults:1) 5 lindwurms An orb spider (shapeshifter) (D:15) 2 manticores A wolf spider (Vaults:1) 10 cyclopes 5 salamanders 25 ugly things 3 mana vipers 21 black mambas A guardian serpent (Snake:4) 3 elephants (Lair:6) 2 vault sentinels (Vaults:1) 3 ice statues (IceCv) 9 naga magi A gargoyle (D:12) 16 spiny frogs An efreet (D:14) 8 komodo dragons 3 freezing wraiths 2 yaktaurs (D:14) A redback zombie (D:15) 3 rime drakes 2 ice devils (Lair:4) A yaktaur (shapeshifter) (Vaults:1) 5 trolls 3 meliai (D:14) A queen bee (D:9) 9 tyrant leeches 6 polar bears 3 hornets 3 bog bodies A hippogriff (shapeshifter) (D:15) 6 blink frogs 8 slime creatures 6 hippogriffs 2 shadows 3 spriggans 3 fire elementals 7 wraiths A fire bat (D:11) 2 vampires 6 wyverns A hog (shapeshifter) (D:13) 72 yaks A hungry ghost (D:14) 17 vampire mosquitoes 4 basilisks 6 wargs 4 insubstantial wisps 14 nagas 11 swamp worms 6 acid dragons 2 soldier ants 5 hell hounds 7 porcupines 9 water moccasins 2 black bears 2 sky beasts 8 swamp drakes 50 orc warriors 2 hornet zombies 11 ice beasts A phantom (D:5) 3 slaves (D:7) A necrophage (D:8) 10 boggarts 2 eyes of draining 8 wolves 8 ogres 14 centaurs 11 crocodiles 3 big kobolds A bullfrog (shapeshifter) (D:15) 20 bullfrogs A wyvern zombie (D:12) 7 scorpions 36 killer bees 4 howler monkeys 3 vampire bats (D:11) 2 electric eels A lava snake (Swamp:4) 8 crimson imps 5 centaur zombies A quasit (D:9) A bullfrog zombie (D:10) 7 jellies 3 hounds 2 bullfrog skeletons 3 centaur skeletons 15 orc priests 11 iguanas 6 worker ants 19 orc wizards 2 hell rats (D:11) A hound zombie (D:6) A hound skeleton (D:7) A worker ant zombie (D:10) 4 river rats (D:11) 20 adders 7 gnolls 2 shadow imps 10 oozes 4 adder skeletons An adder zombie (D:9) 14 worms A dart slug (D:2) 13 leopard geckos 117 orcs 15 giant cockroaches 10 goblins 8 hobgoblins 12 jackals 22 kobolds 3 quokkas 3 ball pythons 13 bats 15 frilled lizards A leopard gecko skeleton (D:7) A quokka zombie (D:5) 14 rats 1098 creatures vanquished. Vanquished Creatures (collateral kills) A thorn hunter (Swamp:3) Agnes (Snake:3) 6 nagarajas A stone giant (Orc:2) 2 death oozes (Lair:6) A fire dragon (Vaults:1) Fannar (D:11) A yaktaur captain (Vaults:1) 14 naga warriors A ghost crab (Swamp:2) 8 hydras An alligator (Swamp:1) 2 death yaks 9 naga sharpshooters 3 skeletal warriors (D:12) A salamander mystic (Snake:4) 3 swamp dragons (Swamp:4) A spriggan druid (Swamp:4) 4 naga ritualists (Snake:4) A shambling mangrove (Lair:2) A lindwurm (Swamp:4) A mana viper (Snake:3) 2 orc knights 2 salamanders (Snake:4) 2 ugly things (D:14) A guardian serpent (Snake:4) 7 black mambas 14 naga magi (Snake:4) A spiny frog (Swamp:2) 3 yaktaurs (Vaults:1) A polar bear (Lair:5) A tyrant leech (Swamp:3) 2 slime creatures (Swamp:2) 3 hornets A spriggan (Swamp:4) A yak (Lair:5) A fire elemental (Snake:3) A wraith (D:11) A steam dragon (Swamp:4) 2 vampire mosquitoes (Swamp:3) 13 insubstantial wisps A warg (Orc:2) 6 swamp worms 31 nagas 4 water moccasins 7 orc warriors 2 swamp drakes An ice beast (IceCv) 3 ogres 2 wolves (Lair:6) A crocodile (Lair:6) A killer bee (D:11) 3 jellies (Lair:6) 2 orc wizards (Orc:2) A gnoll (D:5) 3 adders An ooze (Lair:6) 13 orcs 4 ball pythons 2 kobolds (D:12) 3 briar patches (Swamp:3) A fungus (Lair:2) A plant (Lair:5) 216 creatures vanquished. Vanquished Creatures (others) 2 swamp dragons (Swamp:4) A black mamba (Snake:3) 9 dancing weapons 3 steam dragons (Swamp:4) A vampire mosquito (Lair:2) A swamp worm (Swamp:4) A naga (Snake:4) 4 swamp drakes (Swamp:4) 2 orcs (D:8) 7 fungi 3 plants 10 snaplasher vines 44 creatures vanquished. Grand Total: 1358 creatures vanquished Notes Turn | Place | Note -------+----------+------------------------------------------- 0 | D:1 | edgefigaro the Vampire Enchanter began the quest for the | Orb. 0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 1. HP: 13/13 MP: 3/3 529 | D:1 | Reached skill level 1 in Fighting 529 | D:1 | Reached XP level 2. HP: 13/21 MP: 3/5 740 | D:1 | Learned a level 2 spell: Ensorcelled Hibernation 1157 | D:1 | Reached XP level 3. HP: 26/26 MP: 6/6 2349 | D:2 | Reached skill level 1 in Ice Magic 2349 | D:2 | Reached XP level 4. HP: 25/33 MP: 7/7 2842 | D:3 | Found a glowing drain. 2929 | Sewer | Entered a sewer 3028 | Sewer | Reached XP level 5. HP: 35/38 MP: 5/8 3131 | Sewer | Reached skill level 5 in Stealth 3131 | Sewer | Reached skill level 5 in Hexes 3133 | Sewer | Reached XP level 6. HP: 21/44 MP: 4/10 3476 | Sewer | Learned a level 3 spell: Confuse 3480 | Sewer | Learned a level 3 spell: Tukima's Dance 4140 | D:3 | Found an iron altar of Okawaru. 4577 | D:3 | Found a deep blue altar of Sif Muna. 4580 | D:3 | Became a worshipper of Sif Muna the Loreminder 4837 | D:4 | Reached skill level 6 in Stealth 5232 | D:4 | Reached XP level 7. HP: 50/50 MP: 3/11 5819 | D:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon 5835 | D:5 | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging 6025 | D:5 | Found a transporter. 6027 | D:5 | Noticed Jivvin's ghost (novice DsNe) 6047 | D:5 | Found a transporter. 6433 | D:5 | Reached * piety under Sif Muna 7011 | D:5 | Reached XP level 8. HP: 57/57 MP: 5/12 7472 | D:6 | Reached skill level 7 in Stealth 7869 | D:6 | Reached skill level 5 in Short Blades 8238 | D:6 | Learned a level 3 spell: Dazzling Spray 8243 | D:6 | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple. 8261 | D:6 | Reached ** piety under Sif Muna 8356 | D:6 | Found Xamejeuk's Assorted Antiques. 8368 | D:6 | Bought a bubbling white potion for 18 gold pieces 8368 | D:6 | Bought 2 glowing orange potions for 36 gold pieces 8368 | D:6 | Bought a fuming golden potion for 18 gold pieces 8368 | D:6 | Bought a fuming golden potion for 18 gold pieces 8368 | D:6 | Bought an emerald potion for 18 gold pieces 8368 | D:6 | Bought a scroll labeled HISKUN GEPN for 20 gold pieces 8368 | D:6 | Bought a scroll labeled JOPHEU OTRA for 20 gold pieces 8368 | D:6 | Bought a scroll labeled HISKUN GEPN for 20 gold pieces 8711 | D:7 | Noticed Pikel 8756 | D:7 | Reached XP level 9. HP: 64/64 MP: 5/15 8871 | D:7 | Reached skill level 8 in Stealth 8879 | D:7 | Reached skill level 1 in Conjurations 8990 | D:7 | Found a flagged portal. 9007 | Bailey | Entered a bailey 9007 | Bailey | Noticed an orc knight 9007 | Bailey | Noticed an orc knight 9031 | Bailey | Noticed an orc knight 9033 | Bailey | Reached *** piety under Sif Muna 9080 | Bailey | Killed an orc knight 9080 | Bailey | Reached skill level 9 in Stealth 9080 | Bailey | Reached skill level 5 in Spellcasting 9083 | Bailey | Killed an orc knight 9099 | Bailey | Killed an orc knight 9099 | Bailey | Reached XP level 10. HP: 65/71 MP: 0/18 9565 | D:7 | Reached skill level 10 in Hexes 9624 | D:7 | Killed Pikel 9624 | D:7 | Reached **** piety under Sif Muna 10490 | D:8 | Noticed a two-headed ogre 10860 | D:8 | Found Horiamni's Gadget Shop. 10867 | D:8 | Reached skill level 1 in Invocations 10894 | D:8 | Killed a two-headed ogre 11142 | D:9 | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines. 11160 | D:9 | Reached skill level 10 in Stealth 11301 | D:9 | Reached skill level 1 in Shields 11844 | D:10 | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon 11973 | D:9 | Reached XP level 11. HP: 78/78 MP: 11/20 12555 | D:9 | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting 12932 | D:10 | Reached ***** piety under Sif Muna 13005 | D:10 | Found a runed door. 13006 | D:10 | Found a shimmering altar of Xom. 13006 | D:10 | Noticed a trident of chaos 13006 | D:10 | Noticed kazak's ghost (novice OgTm) 13253 | D:10 | Noticed Harold 13256 | D:10 | Killed Harold 13745 | D:10 | Noticed Josephine 13996 | D:9 | Killed Josephine 13996 | D:9 | Reached skill level 11 in Stealth 14013 | D:10 | Received a gift from Sif Muna 14029 | D:10 | Learned a level 4 spell: Summon Ice Beast 14206 | Orc:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Orcish Mines 14213 | Orc:1 | Learned a level 5 spell: Yara's Violent Unravelling 14217 | Orc:1 | Learned a level 3 spell: Call Canine Familiar 14272 | Orc:1 | Found Ucoxon's Distillery. 14281 | Orc:1 | Bought a potion of invisibility for 120 gold pieces 14281 | Orc:1 | Bought a potion of heal wounds for 75 gold pieces 14364 | Orc:1 | Reached skill level 1 in Transmutations 14606 | Orc:1 | Reached skill level 1 in Summonings 14851 | Orc:2 | Entered Level 2 of the Orcish Mines 15252 | Orc:2 | Reached XP level 12. HP: 87/87 MP: 18/22 15517 | Orc:2 | Found Titizir's Food Shop. 15517 | Orc:2 | Found Ythrat's Food Shoppe. 16107 | Orc:2 | Noticed a stone giant 16327 | Orc:2 | Killed a stone giant 16327 | Orc:2 | Reached skill level 5 in Transmutations 16634 | Orc:2 | Reached skill level 5 in Summonings 16634 | Orc:2 | Reached skill level 1 in Evocations 16827 | Orc:2 | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh. 16877 | Orc:2 | Found Qarien's Weapon Shop. 16877 | Orc:2 | Found Ekhal's Jewellery Shoppe. 16965 | Orc:2 | Found a staircase to the Elven Halls. 17259 | D:11 | Found a labyrinth entrance. 17260 | D:11 | Noticed Sonja 17261 | D:11 | Noticed a seven-headed hydra 17295 | D:10 | Killed a seven-headed hydra 17384 | D:11 | Killed Sonja 17388 | D:11 | Reached skill level 5 in Invocations 17539 | Lab | Entered a labyrinth 17621 | Lab | Noticed a minotaur 17638 | Lab | Killed a minotaur 17646 | Lab | Found the amulet of the Four Winds {rN+ MR+++ Clar} 17646 | Lab | Got a fine brass ring 17672 | Lab | Identified the ring "Virat" {rC+ Int+3} (You found it in a | labyrinth) 17933 | D:11 | Reached skill level 12 in Stealth 17959 | D:11 | Noticed Nergalle 17968 | D:11 | Killed Nergalle 17968 | D:11 | Identified Sif Muna's Collected Works on Congealing | Sinister Rites (Sif Muna gifted it to you on level 11 of | the Dungeon) 17968 | D:11 | Received a gift from Sif Muna 18180 | D:11 | Noticed a death knight 18226 | D:11 | Reached XP level 13. HP: 94/94 MP: 18/24 18803 | D:11 | Noticed Fannar 19062 | D:11 | Killed Fannar 19947 | D:11 | Found a staircase to the Lair. 20055 | Lair:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts 21089 | Lair:2 | Found a staircase to the Swamp. 21578 | Lair:3 | Reached skill level 10 in Short Blades 21800 | Lair:3 | Noticed Snorg 21806 | Lair:3 | Killed Snorg 21806 | Lair:3 | Reached skill level 13 in Stealth 21839 | Lair:3 | Found a staircase to the Snake Pit. 21967 | Lair:3 | Identified Sif Muna's Handbook of Congealing Evil Rituals | (Sif Muna gifted it to you on level 3 of the Lair of | Beasts) 21967 | Lair:3 | Received a gift from Sif Muna 22266 | Lair:4 | Found a frozen archway. 22446 | IceCv | Entered an ice cave 23326 | IceCv | Identified the +7 ice dragon scales of Xefo {-Cast rF- rC++ | Int+3} (You found it in an ice cave) 23713 | Lair:4 | Reached XP level 14. HP: 103/103 MP: 24/26 24158 | Lair:5 | Found a staircase to the Slime Pits. 25323 | Lair:6 | Entered Level 6 of the Lair of Beasts 25402 | Lair:6 | Reached skill level 5 in Evocations 25954 | Lair:6 | Reached skill level 10 in Dodging 26745 | Lair:6 | Found a viscous altar of Jiyva. 26748 | Lair:6 | Noticed an acid blob 26750 | Lair:6 | Noticed an azure jelly 26756 | Lair:6 | Killed an acid blob 26766 | Lair:6 | Killed an azure jelly 26766 | Lair:6 | Reached skill level 1 in Armour 27823 | D:12 | Found Peutsiff's Gadget Emporium. 28309 | D:12 | Identified Sif Muna's Handbook of Lethal Cold (Sif Muna | gifted it to you on level 12 of the Dungeon) 28309 | D:12 | Received a gift from Sif Muna 28758 | D:13 | Reached XP level 15. HP: 103/108 MP: 11/27 29183 | D:13 | Found a runed door. 29377 | D:13 | Found a white marble altar of Elyvilon. 29774 | D:14 | Found a gate to the Vaults. 30457 | D:14 | Reached skill level 14 in Stealth 30965 | D:14 | Found a portal to a secret trove of treasure. 31266 | D:15 | Entered Level 15 of the Dungeon 31312 | D:15 | Found a blossoming altar of Fedhas. 32216 | D:15 | Found a staircase to the Depths. 32648 | Snake:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Snake Pit 33549 | Snake:1 | Learned a level 5 spell: Metabolic Englaciation 34640 | Snake:2 | Noticed a nagaraja 34947 | Snake:2 | Found Xessoag's Gadget Shop. 34947 | Snake:2 | Found Korot's Jewellery Emporium. 34948 | Snake:2 | Found Buan's Jewellery Emporium. 34965 | Snake:2 | Bought the ring "Tichiath" {rElec EV+1} for 221 gold pieces 34998 | Snake:2 | Killed a nagaraja 35250 | Snake:3 | Noticed a nagaraja 35298 | Snake:3 | Reached XP level 16. HP: 105/118 MP: 15/29 35314 | Snake:3 | Reached skill level 15 in Stealth 35456 | Snake:3 | Noticed Vashnia 35809 | Snake:3 | Noticed Agnes 35816 | Snake:3 | Killed Agnes 36643 | Snake:3 | Found Vilica's Jewellery Shop. 36643 | Snake:3 | Found Habixomo's Antique Armour Boutique. 37230 | D:6 | Bought a paperback book for 300 gold pieces 37763 | Swamp:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Swamp 37783 | Swamp:1 | Noticed Nikola 37808 | Swamp:1 | Killed Nikola 37960 | Lair:2 | Identified Sif Muna's Grimoire of Summoning (Sif Muna | gifted it to you on level 2 of the Lair of Beasts) 37960 | Lair:2 | Received a gift from Sif Muna 37977 | Lair:2 | Learned a level 5 spell: Summon Forest 38432 | Lair:1 | Learned a level 3 spell: Regeneration 38784 | Snake:3 | Reached skill level 1 in Charms 38784 | Snake:3 | Reached skill level 1 in Necromancy 38784 | Snake:3 | Reached skill level 1 in Translocations 38804 | Snake:3 | Noticed Azrael 38811 | Snake:3 | Killed Azrael 38845 | Snake:3 | Noticed Asterion 39467 | Snake:2 | Killed Asterion 39770 | Snake:3 | Killed Vashnia 40133 | Snake:3 | Found Orchai's Distillery. 40133 | Snake:3 | Found Kazxiel's Magic Scroll Boutique. 40145 | Snake:3 | Bought a heavily jewelled robe for 108 gold pieces 40145 | Snake:3 | Bought a runed helmet for 142 gold pieces 40145 | Snake:3 | Bought a twisted ring mail for 171 gold pieces 40155 | Snake:3 | Identified the +2 robe of the Present {Dex+4} (You bought | it in a shop on level 3 of the Snake Pit) 40175 | Snake:3 | Identified the +3 ring mail of the Dropbear {rF- rN+ Str+4} | (You bought it in a shop on level 3 of the Snake Pit) 40216 | Snake:3 | Bought a scroll of identify for 22 gold pieces 40216 | Snake:3 | Bought a scroll of identify for 22 gold pieces 40216 | Snake:3 | Bought a scroll of identify for 22 gold pieces 40218 | Snake:3 | Identified a scroll of acquirement 40219 | Snake:3 | Identified Sif Muna's Almanac of the Entourage (You | acquired it on level 3 of the Snake Pit) 40231 | Snake:3 | Learned a level 5 spell: Summon Mana Viper 40507 | Snake:4 | Entered Level 4 of the Snake Pit 41261 | Snake:4 | Reached skill level 5 in Charms 41262 | Snake:4 | Reached skill level 5 in Necromancy 41428 | Snake:4 | Identified Mimuacoq's Disquisition on Combat Magic (Sif | Muna gifted it to you on level 4 of the Snake Pit) 41428 | Snake:4 | Received a gift from Sif Muna 42694 | Snake:4 | Reached XP level 17. HP: 116/124 MP: 8/30 43001 | Snake:4 | Reached skill level 5 in Translocations 43134 | Snake:4 | Got a serpentine rune of Zot 44310 | Swamp:2 | Received a gift from Sif Muna 44518 | Swamp:2 | You fall through a shaft! 45126 | Swamp:4 | Entered Level 4 of the Swamp 46037 | Swamp:4 | Got a decaying rune of Zot 46948 | Swamp:3 | Reached skill level 10 in Spellcasting 47891 | Vaults:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Vaults 48270 | Vaults:1 | Found a flickering gateway to a bazaar. 48284 | Bazaar | Entered a bazaar 48284 | Bazaar | Found Hecel's Weapon Boutique. 48284 | Bazaar | Found Hauloeji's Distillery. 48284 | Bazaar | Found Gaixef's General Store. 48284 | Bazaar | Found Boticothri's Armour Shop. 48284 | Bazaar | Found Facade Zigas's Assorted Antiques. 48287 | Bazaar | Bought 2 potions of invisibility for 144 gold pieces 48291 | Bazaar | Bought a leatherbound book for 315 gold pieces 48295 | Bazaar | Bought a scroll of summoning for 95 gold pieces 48295 | Bazaar | Bought a scroll of identify for 20 gold pieces 48295 | Bazaar | Bought a potion of heal wounds for 50 gold pieces 48301 | Bazaar | Bought a potion of brilliance for 36 gold pieces 48303 | Bazaar | Bought the +2 shield of Resistance {rF+ rC+ MR+} for 739 | gold pieces 48303 | Bazaar | Found the +2 shield of Resistance {rF+ rC+ MR+} 48354 | Vaults:1 | Identified Sif Muna's Almanac of Flying Displacement (Sif | Muna gifted it to you on level 1 of the Vaults) 48354 | Vaults:1 | Received a gift from Sif Muna 48355 | Vaults:1 | Reached skill level 5 in Shields 49713 | Vaults:1 | Reached XP level 18. HP: 132/132 MP: 29/32 Skill XL: | 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 | ---------------+----------------------------------------------------+----- Fighting | 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 | 9.3 Short Blades | 2 3 4 5 7 8 9 10 11 | 11.9 Ice Magic | 1 2 3 4 | 4.0 Stealth | 5 6 7 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 | 15.9 Hexes | 5 6 7 9 10 11 12 | 12.1 Spellcasting | 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 | 10.0 Dodging | 3 5 6 7 9 10 11 12 | 12.1 Conjurations | 2 | 2.2 Invocations | 3 4 5 6 7 8 | 8.2 Shields | 2 4 7 | 7.7 Transmutations | 1 5 7 | 7.2 Summonings | 1 5 6 7 | 7.0 Evocations | 2 4 7 | 7.7 Armour | 1 4 | 4.8 Charms | 6 8 | 8.2 Necromancy | 6 8 | 8.1 Translocations | 4 6 | 6.2 Long Blades | | 0.5 Action | 1- 3 | 4- 6 | 7- 9 | 10-12 | 13-15 | 16-18 || total -------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------++------- Melee: Dagger | 107 | 221 | 311 | 604 | 7 | || 1250 Bite | 7 | 16 | 24 | 60 | 117 | 53 || 277 Long sword | | | | 6 | | || 6 Short sword | | | | 22 | 1195 | 638 || 1855 Staff | | | | | | 10 || 10 Throw: Stone | 43 | 40 | 23 | 71 | | || 177 Tomahawk | | | | 1 | 36 | 17 || 54 Cast: Corona | 13 | 1 | | | 1 | || 15 Ensorcelled Hiber | 14 | 39 | 84 | 193 | 279 | 200 || 809 Confuse | | 3 | 24 | 43 | 93 | 70 || 233 Tukima's Dance | | 1 | 9 | 37 | 26 | 34 || 107 Call Canine Famil | | | | 3 | 2 | 4 || 9 Summon Ice Beast | | | | 21 | 69 | 91 || 181 Yara's Violent Un | | | | 3 | 5 | 29 || 37 Summon Mana Viper | | | | | | 74 || 74 Summon Forest | | | | | | 44 || 44 Regeneration | | | | | | 46 || 46 Invok: Channel Magic | | | | | | 1 || 1 Divine Energy | | | | | | 1 || 1 Abil: End Transformatio | 1 | 5 | | 4 | 3 | 8 || 21 Bat Form | 1 | 5 | | 4 | 3 | 8 || 21 Evoke: Wand | | | | 1 | | 15 || 16 Fan of gales | | | | | | 1 || 1 Use: Potion | 4 | 4 | 9 | 14 | 19 | 34 || 84 Scroll | | 3 | 5 | 14 | 16 | 11 || 49 Stab: Sleeping | 17 | 41 | 56 | 158 | 245 | 106 || 623 Confused | | 1 | 11 | 26 | 54 | 30 || 122 Distracted | | | 1 | 3 | 15 | 12 || 31 Invisible | | | | 2 | 13 | || 15 Armor: Robe | 16 | 47 | 21 | 33 | 145 | 130 || 392 Skin | | | | 15 | | || 15 Dodge: Dodged | 107 | 132 | 190 | 245 | 584 | 646 || 1904 Block: Buckler | | | | 120 | 295 | 256 || 671 Rpst.: Long sword | | | | 2 | | || 2 Table legend: A = Non-vault XP B = Vault XP C = Vault XP percentage of total XP D = Non-vault monster count E = Vault monster count F = Vault count percentage of total count A B C D E F +---------+---------+-------+---------+---------+------- Total | 178834 | 115947 | 39.3 | 885 | 425 | 32.4 +---------+---------+-------+---------+---------+------- D:1 | 43 | 0 | 0.0 | 17 | 0 | 0.0 D:2 | 100 | 0 | 0.0 | 31 | 0 | 0.0 D:3 | 173 | 6 | 3.4 | 28 | 2 | 6.7 D:4 | 365 | 0 | 0.0 | 20 | 0 | 0.0 D:5 | 504 | 0 | 0.0 | 26 | 0 | 0.0 D:6 | 1175 | 0 | 0.0 | 40 | 0 | 0.0 D:7 | 879 | 725 | 45.2 | 21 | 13 | 38.2 D:8 | 1964 | 337 | 14.6 | 24 | 3 | 11.1 D:9 | 1782 | 5049 | 73.9 | 29 | 44 | 60.3 D:10 | 4497 | 1821 | 28.8 | 28 | 5 | 15.2 D:11 | 5290 | 8947 | 62.8 | 35 | 55 | 61.1 D:12 | 5143 | 0 | 0.0 | 41 | 0 | 0.0 D:13 | 4574 | 784 | 14.6 | 23 | 1 | 4.2 D:14 | 14898 | 1513 | 9.2 | 58 | 3 | 4.9 D:15 | 6177 | 4646 | 42.9 | 25 | 10 | 28.6 Lair:1 | 3275 | 0 | 0.0 | 13 | 0 | 0.0 Lair:2 | 4787 | 1072 | 18.3 | 22 | 6 | 21.4 Lair:3 | 5151 | 1117 | 17.8 | 17 | 1 | 5.6 Lair:4 | 3002 | 697 | 18.8 | 14 | 2 | 12.5 Lair:5 | 4978 | 2242 | 31.1 | 23 | 8 | 25.8 Lair:6 | 9936 | 15162 | 60.4 | 44 | 39 | 47.0 Swamp:1 | 7866 | 2848 | 26.6 | 21 | 1 | 4.5 Swamp:2 | 6223 | 1779 | 22.2 | 29 | 9 | 23.7 Swamp:3 | 9823 | 0 | 0.0 | 27 | 0 | 0.0 Swamp:4 | 10164 | 9320 | 47.8 | 29 | 21 | 42.0 Snake:1 | 5052 | 0 | 0.0 | 12 | 0 | 0.0 Snake:2 | 8982 | 3092 | 25.6 | 16 | 4 | 20.0 Snake:3 | 20322 | 8307 | 29.0 | 40 | 12 | 23.1 Snake:4 | 13999 | 19348 | 58.0 | 47 | 57 | 54.8 Orc:1 | 1257 | 564 | 31.0 | 24 | 1 | 4.0 Orc:2 | 1609 | 7857 | 83.0 | 20 | 60 | 75.0 Vaults:1 | 14844 | 11620 | 43.9 | 41 | 17 | 29.3 Lab | 0 | 1169 | 100.0 | 0 | 1 | 100.0 Sewer | 0 | 251 | 100.0 | 0 | 21 | 100.0 Bailey | 0 | 2885 | 100.0 | 0 | 18 | 100.0 IceCv | 0 | 2789 | 100.0 | 0 | 11 | 100.0 +---------+---------+-------+---------+---------+-------

Sunday, 2nd September 2018, 00:56 by Siegurt

Metabolic englaciation is like haste (but backwards, and stacks with it), it also hits everything on screen with a possible status effect, which is a good way to either separate packs, or use with Yara's for a draining effect that lets you hex things more easily (incidentally bolt of draining pairs nicely with hexes for the same reason, pair necromancy instead of summons next time, and you can fire bolts of draining through undead, the draining effect will let you hex them more easily, and you can still get distraction stabs from allies.)

ME also gives you more turns to attempt to confuse things, having everything on screen being confused means you're just mopping up at that point.

OR is ok (but not amazing) damage, but against everything in LOS, it also ignores EV and AC, it's best used "in some circumstances, but not every one"

If you stick with hexes, pick up Discord, it's really excellent.

If you play this combo again, try out WuJian, he pairs particularly well with stabs, (also really well with VS, if you feel inclined to play a VSEn)

Archmage is the equivilent of getting 50% more int for spellcasting purposes, you're presently getting benefits for all of your spells, but you can check your hex percentage against something with and without archmage to see if it's worth it.

For future information, daggers are much better at stabbing as short swords, you could save a bunch of XP by using daggers for stabbing purposes, or using like a long blade or something for actual non-stabbing melee, which would be more effective at non stabbing damage, and the XP would cross train into daggers. Spending the XP on more spell power over short blades and stealth would have made things easier for you.

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