CIP: SpVm^Gozag

Tuesday, 27th February 2018, 19:58 by Zhorgal

Yes, I know, I keep going for the tough ones. Unlike the Naga, I never won with a Spriggan. I just bought an amulet of the acrobat. Wow! 38 EV when he's running is quite nice.
Basically, I need general advice about everything. I can learn all the spells from the starting book of necromancy, the last spell from Vm, Freezing Cloud or Ring of flames.

Code:: Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.22-a0-247-gbddf880 (tiles) character file. Bing the Thaumaturge (Spriggan Venom Mage) Turns: 20279, Time: 01:48:35 HP: 52/52 (53) AC: 3 Str: 4 XL: 11 Next: 9% MP: 28/28 EV: 23 Int: 20 God: Gozag Gold: 215 SH: 0 Dex: 17 Spells: 21/34 levels left rFire + . . SeeInvis + S - +4 shortbow rCold . . . Gourm . (shield currently unavailable) rNeg . . . Faith . g - +1 robe rPois . Spirit . (helmet restricted) rElec . Reflect . A - scarf {repulsion} rCorr . Harm . (gloves unavailable) MR ++... (boots unavailable) Stlth +++....... V - amulet of the acrobat HPRegen 0.17/turn O - ring "Emneyplu" {rF+ Stlth+} MPRegen 0.21/turn P - ring of Knowledge {+Blink MR+} @: repel missiles, very quick A: very small, unfitting armour, see invisible, herbivore, speed 3, slow metabolism 2 a: Potion Petition, Call Merchant, Bribe Branch, Renounce Religion, Evoke Blink You are on level 10 of the Dungeon. You worship Gozag. Gozag is aware of your devotion. You are very hungry. You have visited 1 branch of the dungeon, and seen 10 of its levels. You have collected 2194 gold pieces. You have spent 1954 gold pieces at shops. You have paid 25 gold pieces to Gozag. Inventory: Hand Weapons a - the +2 dagger "Zoyzarack" {protect, +Rage Str+3} (You bought it in a shop on level 8 of the Dungeon) It protects the one who uses it against injury (+AC on strike). It affects your strength (+3). It lets you go berserk. b - a +1 hunting sling of flaming i - a +0 dagger o - a lajatang p - a +0 blowgun y - a +0 whip of freezing z - a mace of protection J - a +3 whip N - a +0 dagger of venom S - a +4 shortbow (weapon) Missiles c - 329 stones h - 26 poisoned needles k - 99 arrows (quivered) C - 12 tomahawks F - a throwing net {!f} Q - 73 sling bullets Armour g - a +1 robe (worn) A - a scarf of repulsion (worn) U - a glowing scarf Jewellery s - an uncursed ring of positive energy u - an uncursed ring of positive energy L - an uncursed ring of resist corrosion O - the ring "Emneyplu" (left hand) {rF+ Stlth+} (You bought it in a shop on level 8 of the Dungeon) [ring of stealth] It protects you from fire. It makes you more stealthy. P - the ring of Knowledge (right hand) {+Blink MR+} (You bought it in a shop on level 8 of the Dungeon) [ring of protection from magic] It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments. It lets you blink. V - an amulet of the acrobat (around neck) Wands E - a wand of enslavement (17) G - a wand of paralysis (6) K - a wand of clouds (4) R - a wand of iceblast (10) Scrolls d - 7 scrolls of remove curse e - 7 scrolls of identify l - 2 scrolls of magic mapping n - 5 scrolls of fear t - 3 scrolls of fog B - 2 scrolls of teleportation I - a scroll of amnesia T - a scroll of enchant weapon Potions f - a potion of haste m - 3 potions of heal wounds q - a potion of cancellation r - a potion of brilliance v - a potion of magic w - a potion of lignification {!q} x - a potion of invisibility D - 2 potions of might H - a potion of mutation {!q} M - 3 potions of curing Comestibles j - 20 rations Skills: + Level 3,7 Fighting + Level 7,4 Dodging - Level 3,0 Stealth + Level 12,2 Spellcasting - Level 0,6 Conjurations - Level 8,1 Air Magic - Level 8,0 Poison Magic + Level 4,9 Evocations You have 21 spell levels left. You know the following spells: Your Spells Type Power Failure Level Hunger a - Sting Conj/Pois #### 1% 1 None b - Poisonous Vapours Pois/Air #####. 1% 2 None c - Olgreb's Toxic Radia Pois #####... 1% 4 #...... d - Mephitic Cloud Conj/Pois/Air ####.... 1% 3 None e - Conjure Flame Conj/Fire ##...... 14% 3 None Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations Branches: Dungeon (10/15) Temple (0/1) D:6 Lair (0/6) D:10 Orc (0/2) D:10 Altars: Elyvilon Gozag Makhleb Okawaru Qazlal Ru Trog Wu Jian Xom Shops: D:8 :=( D:10 = Annotations: D:9 1 runed door Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations You are very small and have problems with some larger weapons. You are too small for most types of armour. You have supernaturally acute eyesight. (SInv) You are a herbivore. You cover ground extremely quickly. You need consume almost no food. Message History k - 84 arrows (gained 1) You now have 198 gold pieces (gained 5). k - 85 arrows (gained 1) You see here a short sword. k - 86 arrows (gained 1) k - 88 arrows (gained 2) k - 89 arrows (gained 1) k - 91 arrows (gained 2) You now have 205 gold pieces (gained 7). You see here a dagger. You now have 210 gold pieces (gained 5). k - 96 arrows (gained 5) You now have 215 gold pieces (gained 5). k - 98 arrows (gained 2) You see here a dagger. k - 99 arrows (gained 1) The hell hound barks! 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Vanquished Creatures 2 two-headed ogres Pikel (D:6) A troll (D:9) 2 hippogriffs (D:9) Sigmund (D:3) A hell hound (D:9) 8 orc warriors 3 black bears 2 sky beasts A necrophage (D:9) 6 ogres 3 centaurs 2 big kobolds A gnoll sergeant (D:9) 6 bullfrogs 4 scorpions 12 killer bees A howler monkey (D:6) 15 wights 2 centaur zombies A bullfrog zombie (D:9) 5 hounds 10 orc priests 4 bullfrog skeletons (D:10) An iguana (D:8) 14 orc wizards 6 worker ants A killer bee zombie (D:9) 2 hound zombies A hound skeleton (D:10) 2 worker ant zombies 12 gnolls 9 adders A shadow imp (D:7) An ooze (D:3) 2 adder zombies An adder skeleton (D:4) A worm (D:4) 2 dart slugs (D:1) 2 leopard geckos 60 orcs 2 giant cockroaches 3 goblins 8 hobgoblins 4 jackals (D:4) 7 quokkas A ball python (D:3) 3 bats 6 frilled lizards A giant cockroach zombie (D:5) 17 kobolds 2 quokka zombies 11 rats 277 creatures vanquished. Vanquished Creatures (others) 2 slaves (D:6) A crimson imp (D:6) 2 orcs (D:6) 5 creatures vanquished. Grand Total: 282 creatures vanquished Notes Turn | Place | Note -------+----------+------------------------------------------- 0 | D:1 | Bing the Spriggan Venom Mage began the quest for the Orb. 0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 1. HP: 9/9 MP: 5/5 189 | D:1 | Reached skill level 3 in Spellcasting 422 | D:1 | Reached XP level 2. HP: 13/13 MP: 4/7 426 | D:1 | Learned a level 2 spell: Poisonous Vapours 1171 | D:2 | Reached skill level 4 in Spellcasting 1600 | D:2 | Reached XP level 3. HP: 13/16 MP: 5/9 1709 | D:2 | Reached skill level 5 in Spellcasting 2060 | D:2 | Found an opulent altar of Gozag. 2065 | D:2 | Became a worshipper of Gozag Ym Sagoz the Greedy 2253 | D:2 | Reached XP level 4. HP: 21/21 MP: 4/12 2656 | D:3 | Found a white marble altar of Elyvilon. 2961 | D:3 | Reached skill level 1 in Air Magic 3037 | D:3 | You fall through a shaft! 3192 | D:3 | Noticed Sigmund 3227 | D:3 | Killed Sigmund 3227 | D:3 | Reached skill level 6 in Spellcasting 3227 | D:3 | Reached XP level 5. HP: 18/24 MP: 9/15 3227 | D:3 | Reached XP level 6. HP: 22/28 MP: 9/16 3441 | D:3 | Found a shimmering altar of Xom. 3675 | D:4 | Reached skill level 7 in Spellcasting 3700 | D:4 | Learned a level 4 spell: Olgreb's Toxic Radiance 3704 | D:4 | Learned a level 3 spell: Mephitic Cloud 4111 | D:4 | Reached XP level 7. HP: 20/32 MP: 12/19 4749 | D:4 | Reached skill level 8 in Spellcasting 4988 | D:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon 6161 | D:6 | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple. 6259 | D:6 | Reached XP level 8. HP: 36/36 MP: 17/21 6772 | D:6 | Reached skill level 5 in Air Magic 6803 | D:6 | Noticed Pikel 6855 | D:6 | Killed Pikel 6855 | D:6 | Reached skill level 9 in Spellcasting 6855 | D:6 | Reached skill level 5 in Poison Magic 7623 | D:6 | You fall through a shaft for 3 floors! 7651 | D:9 | Reached skill level 10 in Spellcasting 7655 | D:9 | Reached XP level 9. HP: 29/39 MP: 10/24 7883 | D:10 | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon 7900 | D:9 | Found a runed door. 7919 | D:9 | HP: 1/39 [bullfrog zombie (4)] 8052 | D:9 | Noticed a sixfirhy 9217 | D:9 | Noticed a troll 9279 | D:9 | Killed a troll 9425 | D:9 | Identified a scroll of acquirement 9457 | D:8 | Found Dudy's Antique Weapon Emporium. 9484 | D:9 | Reached skill level 11 in Spellcasting 9663 | D:8 | Noticed a two-headed ogre 10722 | D:6 | Found an iron altar of Okawaru. 10729 | D:6 | Found a burning altar of Makhleb. 10732 | D:6 | Found a sacrificial altar of Ru. 11411 | D:7 | Reached skill level 1 in Fighting 11425 | D:7 | Found an ornate altar of the Wu Jian Council. 11568 | D:7 | Reached XP level 10. HP: 44/44 MP: 23/26 11739 | D:8 | Found Wosaewos's Book Shop. 13731 | D:8 | Found Aghig's Food Shoppe. 14919 | D:8 | Killed a two-headed ogre 15223 | D:8 | Bought an encrusted dagger for 154 gold pieces 15223 | D:8 | Identified the +2 dagger "Zoyzarack" {protect, +Rage Str+3} (You bought it in a shop on level 8 of the Dungeon) 15405 | D:8 | Found Guygimagh's Jewellery Shop. 15412 | D:8 | Bought the ring "Emneyplu" {rF+ Stlth+} for 346 gold pieces 15412 | D:8 | Bought the ring of Knowledge {+Blink MR+} for 429 gold pieces 15423 | D:8 | Found a bloodstained altar of Trog. 15583 | D:8 | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging 15614 | D:8 | Learned a level 3 spell: Conjure Flame 15748 | D:9 | Reached skill level 1 in Evocations 16525 | D:8 | Bought a ration for 55 gold pieces 16525 | D:8 | Bought a ration for 55 gold pieces 16525 | D:8 | Bought a ration for 55 gold pieces 16525 | D:8 | Bought a ration for 55 gold pieces 16525 | D:8 | Bought a ration for 55 gold pieces 16525 | D:8 | Bought a ration for 55 gold pieces 16525 | D:8 | Bought a ration for 55 gold pieces 16525 | D:8 | Bought a ration for 55 gold pieces 16525 | D:8 | Bought a ration for 55 gold pieces 16525 | D:8 | Bought a ration for 55 gold pieces 16525 | D:8 | Bought a ration for 55 gold pieces 16654 | D:9 | Found a stormy altar of Qazlal. 18478 | D:10 | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines. 19072 | D:10 | Reached skill level 12 in Spellcasting 19299 | D:10 | Noticed a two-headed ogre 19356 | D:10 | Killed a two-headed ogre 19356 | D:10 | Reached XP level 11. HP: 51/51 MP: 22/28 19548 | D:10 | Found a staircase to the Lair. 19870 | D:10 | Found Xynigi's Jewellery Emporium. 19881 | D:10 | Bought an uncursed amulet of the acrobat for 420 gold pieces Skill XL: | 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 | ---------------+-------------------------------+----- Spellcasting | 3 4 5 6 7 8 10 11 12 | 12,2 Air Magic | 2 3 4 6 7 8 | 8,1 Poison Magic | 5 7 8 | 8,0 Fighting | 1 3 | 3,7 Dodging | 7 | 7,4 Evocations | 4 | 4,9 Stealth | | 3,0 Conjurations | | 0,6 Action | 1- 3 | 4- 6 | 7- 9 | 10-12 || total -------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------++------- Melee: Whip | 60 | 98 | 110 | || 268 Dagger | | | | 159 || 159 Fire: Hunting sling | 3 | | 209 | 390 || 602 Shortbow | | | | 264 || 264 Blowgun | | | | 8 || 8 Cast: Sting | 29 | 22 | 74 | 27 || 152 Poisonous Vapours | 2 | 22 | 112 | 57 || 193 Mephitic Cloud | | | 8 | || 8 Olgreb's Toxic Ra | | | | 1 || 1 Conjure Flame | | | | 9 || 9 Evoke: Wand | | | | 1 || 1 Use: Scroll | 3 | 3 | 16 | || 22 Potion | | | 1 | || 1 Stab: Sleeping | 6 | 2 | 1 | 1 || 10 Distracted | | 1 | | 1 || 2 Confused | | | 3 | || 3 Paralysed | | | | 4 || 4 Eat: Ration | | | 3 | 4 || 7 Armor: Robe | 4 | 8 | 14 | 43 || 69 Dodge: Dodged | 51 | 82 | 195 | 295 || 623 Deflected | | | 1 | 8 || 9 Table legend: A = Spawn XP B = Non-spawn XP C = Spawn XP percentage of total XP D = Spawn monster count E = Non-spawn monster count F = Spawn count percentage of total count G = Total turns spent on level A B C D E F G +---------+---------+-------+---------+---------+-------+--------- Total | 0 | 12035 | 0,0 | 0 | 278 | 0,0 | 20279 +---------+---------+-------+---------+---------+-------+--------- D:1 | 0 | 22 | 0,0 | 0 | 12 | 0,0 | 1185 D:2 | 0 | 86 | 0,0 | 0 | 25 | 0,0 | 1353 D:3 | 0 | 313 | 0,0 | 0 | 23 | 0,0 | 1207 D:4 | 0 | 582 | 0,0 | 0 | 29 | 0,0 | 1721 D:5 | 0 | 196 | 0,0 | 0 | 6 | 0,0 | 980 D:6 | 0 | 1609 | 0,0 | 0 | 24 | 0,0 | 2361 D:7 | 0 | 883 | 0,0 | 0 | 26 | 0,0 | 2480 D:8 | 0 | 1761 | 0,0 | 0 | 22 | 0,0 | 2646 D:9 | 0 | 3298 | 0,0 | 0 | 46 | 0,0 | 3808 D:10 | 0 | 3285 | 0,0 | 0 | 65 | 0,0 | 2538 +---------+---------+-------+---------+---------+-------+---------

Wednesday, 28th February 2018, 11:33 by VeryAngryFelid

I would stop training Spellcasting for quite a while. Also I would train Stealth and Short Blades, Gozag allows to get some easy stabs for free and Sp has huge aptitude in Stealth. Then more Dodging and Fighting. Try the scarf and hope it has spirit ego.

Edit. To make it clear I don't think you need more spells now. What you already have is good enough to clear Lair and Orc. Necro spells are not good because no corpses due to Gozag and regen spell is bad because of extra hunger and easy escape via running away.

Wednesday, 28th February 2018, 18:12 by Airwolf

Ring of Flames sucks. Freezing Cloud is awesome, but expensive and not a priority. Is Vile Clutch in the Book of Necromancy now? Probably too expensive at this point, but interesting.

What VAF said.

Wednesday, 28th February 2018, 21:48 by Zhorgal

Airwolf wrote:Ring of Flames sucks. Freezing Cloud is awesome, but expensive and not a priority. Is Vile Clutch in the Book of Necromancy now? Probably too expensive at this point, but interesting.

What VAF said.

It was removed. It is awesome yes.

Wednesday, 28th February 2018, 21:56 by Zhorgal

VeryAngryFelid wrote:Necro spells are not good because no corpses due to Gozag and regen spell is bad because of extra hunger and easy escape via running away.

Regen spell is bad because of spell hunger? Or having regen increases hunger even if I can cast the spell without hunger costs? I had no hunger costs due to high spellcasting.

Wednesday, 28th February 2018, 23:51 by Airwolf

Having the Regen+ status (and having less than full HP) increases food consumption, beyond the food cost of casting the spell. Somebody posted an analysis here a while ago that showed that the hunger cost of healing with Regen was less than healing by waiting but I'm not sure how that would work out with Spriggans' lower baseline food consumption. I'd guess you wouldn't notice unless you had hunger issues from casting other high-level spells that left you short on rations.

Thursday, 1st March 2018, 06:08 by VeryAngryFelid

For Sp it takes less food to restore HP naturally than with regen spell and it is not like you need the spell for tactical reasons because Sp can run away easily. Last time I spammed the spell as Sp I had to abandon the spell because I almost ran out of food.

Thursday, 1st March 2018, 20:22 by Zhorgal

Should I increase skills like fighting or armour as a Sp? I'd guess so for fighting even though I haven't yet. Probably should. But what about armour?

Thursday, 1st March 2018, 22:12 by VeryAngryFelid

Ac is increased by 22/total base armor per armour skill. In robe and cloak it means you need slightly more than 7 skill levels in armour to increase ac by 1. Obviously it's very expensive and rarely a good idea, usually it's better to train something else

Thursday, 1st March 2018, 23:01 by Zhorgal

I thought as much. How about things like fighting? I just found the wizard's mirror and decided to train some shields.

My VM died and I used this one. Same principle really. Should I learn invisibility? (Need to buy Party Tricks for it).
Edit: just found book of transfigurations and an artifact ring with Wiz and MR++. Changed the dump since there were no replies yet.

Code:: Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.22-a0-247-gbddf880 (tiles) character file. Odenn the Nimble (Spriggan Enchanter) Turns: 35881, Time: 03:40:34 Health: 74/74 AC: 7 Str: 4 XL: 15 Next: 28% Magic: 32/32 EV: 35 Int: 26 God: Gozag Gold: 7965 SH: 12 Dex: 23 Spells: 10/38 levels left rFire + . . SeeInvis + a - +0 short sword (pierce) rCold . . . Gourm . O - +3 warlock's mirror {reflect} rNeg . . . Faith . U - +2 robe {rF+} rPois . Spirit . (helmet restricted) rElec . Reflect + s - +2 cloak {MR+} rCorr . Harm . (gloves unavailable) MR +++++ (boots unavailable) Stlth ++++++.... g - amulet of the Endless Expanse {+Rage Dex+6} HPRegen 0.22/turn c - +3 ring of evasion MPRegen 0.23/turn m - ring of the Mage {Wiz MR++ Int+3} @: very quick A: very small, unfitting armour, see invisible, herbivore, speed 3, slow metabolism 2 a: Potion Petition, Call Merchant, Bribe Branch, Renounce Religion, Evoke Berserk Rage You are on level 13 of the Dungeon. You worship Gozag. Gozag is greatly pleased with you. You are very hungry. You have visited 4 branches of the dungeon, and seen 22 of its levels. You have also visited: Labyrinth. You have collected 8091 gold pieces. You have paid 126 gold pieces to Gozag. Inventory: Hand Weapons a - a +0 short sword of piercing (weapon) b - a +0 short sword of holy wrath Missiles C - 2 throwing nets {!f} M - 132 sling bullets S - 52 tomahawks (quivered) Armour s - a +2 cloak of magic resistance (worn) H - a +2 robe of magic resistance O - the +3 warlock's mirror (worn) {reflect} (You found it on level 6 of the Lair of Beasts) U - a +2 robe of fire resistance (worn) Jewellery c - a +3 ring of evasion (left hand) g - the amulet of the Endless Expanse (around neck) {+Rage Dex+6} (You acquired it on level 3 of the Lair of Beasts) [amulet of rage] It affects your dexterity (+6). It lets you go berserk. i - an uncursed ring of resist corrosion m - the ring of the Mage (right hand) {Wiz MR++ Int+3} (You took it off an orc wizard on level 13 of the Dungeon) [ring of wizardry] It improves your spell success rate. It affects your intelligence (+3). It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments. t - an uncursed ring of flight u - an uncursed ring of protection from cold A - an uncursed ring of protection from fire V - a +3 ring of evasion Wands j - a wand of random effects (51) v - a wand of acid (23) B - a wand of enslavement (10) D - a wand of digging (18) I - a wand of scattershot (7) Q - a wand of polymorph (14) T - a wand of paralysis (28) Scrolls f - 6 scrolls of identify k - 3 scrolls of blinking q - a scroll of enchant weapon r - 10 scrolls of teleportation y - a scroll of summoning {!r} z - 3 scrolls of fog K - 2 scrolls of vulnerability {!r} N - a scroll of amnesia R - 9 scrolls of immolation X - 3 scrolls of enchant armour Y - 12 scrolls of remove curse Potions e - 7 potions of curing h - 4 potions of brilliance l - 2 potions of cancellation n - 4 potions of haste p - 2 potions of resistance w - 2 potions of heal wounds x - 4 potions of invisibility E - a potion of might F - 3 potions of mutation {!q} G - a potion of lignification {!q} J - 2 potions of agility L - a potion of magic P - 2 potions of ambrosia Miscellaneous o - a lamp of fire W - a phantom mirror Z - a box of beasts Comestibles d - 20 rations Skills: + Level 6,3 Fighting - Level 10,5 Short Blades - Level 13,6 Dodging - Level 13,5 Stealth - Level 5,9 Shields + Level 12,1 Spellcasting - Level 11,0 Hexes + Level 5,1 Transmutations - Level 8,0 Air Magic + Level 3,5 Earth Magic - Level 8,0 Poison Magic - Level 10,0 Evocations You have 10 spell levels left. You know the following spells: Your Spells Type Power Failure Level Hunger a - Corona Hex ######. 1% 1 None b - Ensorcelled Hibernat Hex/Ice #####. 1% 2 None c - Confuse Hex ######.. 1% 3 None d - Tukima's Dance Hex ######.. 1% 3 None e - Poisonous Vapours Pois/Air ###### 1% 2 None f - Mephitic Cloud Conj/Pois/Air #####... 1% 3 None g - Olgreb's Toxic Radia Pois ######.. 1% 4 None h - Airstrike Air ######.... 1% 4 None i - Passwall Tmut/Erth #####..... 1% 2 None j - Petrify Tmut/Erth #####... 2% 4 None Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations Branches: Dungeon (13/15) Temple (1/1) D:7 Lair (6/6) D:10 Shoals (0/4) Lair:4 Spider (0/4) Lair:2 Slime (0/5) Lair:5 Orc (2/2) D:9 Elf (0/3) Orc:2 Vaults: D:13-14 Altars: Ashenzari Cheibriados Dithmenos Elyvilon Fedhas Gozag Hepliaklqana Kikubaaqudgha Makhleb Nemelex Xobeh Okawaru Qazlal Ru Sif Muna Trog Uskayaw Vehumet Wu Jian Xom Yredelemnul Zin The Shining One Shops: D:10 : Orc:2 **([ Annotations: D:11 Vuxaycw's ghost, novice SpVM Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations You are very small and have problems with some larger weapons. You are too small for most types of armour. You have supernaturally acute eyesight. (SInv) You are a herbivore. You cover ground extremely quickly. You need consume almost no food. Message History Describe what? Describe a (M)onster, (S)pell, s(K)ill, (A)bility, (C)ard, (I)tem, (F)eature, (G)od, (B)ranch, c(L)oud or s(T)atus? Okay, then. Unknown command. Unknown command. Unknown command. Unknown command. Unknown command. Search for what [Enter for "book", or ? for help]? scroll of Unknown command. Unknown command. Unknown command. Unknown command. Unknown command. Unknown command. Unknown command. Unknown command. Unknown command. Char dumped to 'morgue/Odenn.txt'. 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Vanquished Creatures Rupert (D:9) 2 orc warlords A minotaur (Lab) Snorg (D:12) An ettin (D:9) 4 ogre magi 4 catoblepae 5 hydras 21 two-headed ogres 6 death yaks A centaur warrior (D:13) A tengu warrior (D:13) A fire crab (Lair:4) An unseen horror (D:11) A necromancer (D:13) 2 orc knights (Orc:2) An oklob plant (D:10) 4 cyclopes 3 orc sorcerers 3 manticores (Lair:6) A moth of wrath (shapeshifter) (D:12) 5 black mambas 11 spiny frogs 2 centaur skeletons (D:13) A rime drake (Lair:3) 6 komodo dragons 2 trolls A polar bear (Lair:4) Grinder (D:5) 3 hornets (Lair:4) 16 blink frogs 9 hippogriffs A meliai zombie (D:11) 3 redbacks (Lair:2) 2 wyverns 14 spriggans 49 yaks 6 vampire mosquitoes 2 basilisks (Lair:3) 5 wargs An acid dragon (D:12) 8 water moccasins 8 porcupines 10 ice beasts 2 sky beasts 31 orc warriors 6 black bears 3 eyes of draining 3 phantoms 3 wolves (Lair:6) 3 boggarts (Lair:4) 32 ogres 6 centaurs 11 crocodiles 9 bullfrogs 3 big kobolds A wyvern zombie (D:12) A wyvern skeleton (D:8) 8 scorpions 14 killer bees 17 wights 3 electric eels 7 crimson imps 4 hounds 6 jellies A gnoll shaman (D:7) 18 orc priests Crazy Yiuf (D:6) 23 orc wizards 5 bullfrog skeletons 6 iguanas 12 worker ants 5 yak simulacra (D:13) A polar bear simulacrum (D:13) A killer bee zombie (D:7) 2 wolf simulacra (D:13) 2 hound skeletons Robin (D:4) 7 gnolls 8 adders 5 shadow imps 2 oozes (Lair:5) An adder skeleton (D:5) An adder zombie (D:10) 3 worms (D:3) 3 leopard geckos 66 orcs 6 giant cockroaches 19 goblins 4 hobgoblins 13 jackals 22 kobolds 6 quokkas A ball python (D:2) 7 bats 7 frilled lizards 2 leopard gecko skeletons (D:4) A quokka skeleton (D:8) 9 rats 3 river rat simulacra (D:13) A butterfly (D:6) 2 plants (D:10) 681 creatures vanquished. Vanquished Creatures (collateral kills) An orc warlord (Orc:2) A two-headed ogre (Orc:2) 2 orc warriors A bullfrog (D:12) 5 creatures vanquished. Vanquished Creatures (others) A dancing weapon (Orc:1) An orc warrior (Orc:2) An orc (D:11) A jackal (D:9) A bush (Lair:1) 9 fungi 10 plants 24 creatures vanquished. Grand Total: 710 creatures vanquished Notes Turn | Place | Note -------+----------+------------------------------------------- 0 | D:1 | Odenn the Spriggan Enchanter began the quest for the Orb. 0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 1. HP: 9/9 MP: 5/5 128 | D:1 | Reached XP level 2. HP: 13/13 MP: 6/6 612 | D:1 | Reached skill level 5 in Stealth 1432 | D:2 | Reached XP level 3. HP: 16/16 MP: 8/8 1573 | D:2 | Noticed Robin 2369 | D:3 | Learned a level 2 spell: Ensorcelled Hibernation 2373 | D:3 | Learned a level 3 spell: Confuse 2767 | D:3 | Reached XP level 4. HP: 14/21 MP: 2/9 3743 | D:4 | Noticed an ogre 3789 | D:4 | Killed an ogre 3789 | D:4 | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging 3789 | D:4 | Reached skill level 5 in Hexes 3789 | D:4 | Reached XP level 5. HP: 24/24 MP: 1/10 3898 | D:4 | Learned a level 3 spell: Tukima's Dance 3917 | D:4 | Found a shattered altar of Ashenzari. 3921 | D:4 | Noticed an ogre 4008 | D:4 | Killed Robin 4227 | D:4 | Killed an ogre 4227 | D:4 | Reached skill level 1 in Evocations 4227 | D:4 | Reached XP level 6. HP: 28/28 MP: 6/11 4778 | D:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon 5418 | D:5 | Reached XP level 7. HP: 32/32 MP: 9/12 6137 | D:5 | Noticed Grinder 6143 | D:5 | Killed Grinder 6459 | D:6 | Reached XP level 8. HP: 36/36 MP: 10/13 6882 | D:6 | HP: 1/36 [orc warrior/long sword (20)] 7859 | D:6 | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha. 7923 | D:6 | Found a shimmering altar of Xom. 7990 | D:6 | Found a runed door. 7994 | D:6 | Noticed Crazy Yiuf 7998 | D:6 | Killed Crazy Yiuf 8129 | D:6 | Reached skill level 5 in Short Blades 8206 | D:6 | Reached skill level 5 in Evocations 8959 | D:7 | Found a glowing silver altar of Zin. 9285 | D:7 | Reached XP level 9. HP: 39/39 MP: 11/14 9312 | D:7 | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple. 9325 | Temple | Entered the Ecumenical Temple 9412 | Temple | Became a worshipper of Gozag Ym Sagoz the Greedy 9781 | D:7 | Found a shimmering altar of Xom. 9781 | D:7 | Found a shimmering altar of Xom. 9781 | D:7 | Found a shimmering altar of Xom. 9781 | D:7 | Found a shimmering altar of Xom. 9781 | D:7 | Found a shimmering altar of Xom. 9874 | D:7 | Noticed a two-headed ogre 9876 | D:7 | Noticed a troll 10012 | D:7 | Noticed a lindwurm 10012 | D:7 | Noticed an elephant 10012 | D:7 | a lindwurm changed into an elephant 10043 | D:7 | Noticed an elephant 10044 | D:7 | Found a shimmering altar of Xom. 10048 | D:7 | Found a shimmering altar of Xom. 10049 | D:7 | Noticed an eye of devastation 10372 | D:8 | Noticed a two-headed ogre 10387 | D:8 | Reached skill level 10 in Stealth 10388 | D:8 | Killed a two-headed ogre 11110 | D:8 | Found a hide-covered altar of Uskayaw. 12262 | D:9 | Reached XP level 10. HP: 28/44 MP: 9/16 12391 | D:9 | Found a sparkling altar of Nemelex Xobeh. 12851 | D:9 | Found a bloodstained altar of Trog. 12953 | D:9 | Reached skill level 10 in Dodging 12979 | D:9 | Upgraded the game from 0.21-a0-641-geef9d7f to 0.22-a0-247-gbddf880 14462 | D:9 | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines. 14690 | D:10 | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon 14879 | D:10 | Noticed an oklob plant 15455 | D:10 | Found a basalt altar of Yredelemnul. 15484 | D:10 | Found Deipn's Book Shop. 15500 | D:10 | Noticed a two-headed ogre 15507 | D:10 | Killed a two-headed ogre 15507 | D:10 | Reached skill level 5 in Spellcasting 16632 | D:10 | Found a staircase to the Lair. 16680 | D:10 | Killed an oklob plant 16745 | Lair:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts 16797 | D:10 | Reached XP level 11. HP: 27/47 MP: 20/20 17179 | Lair:1 | Noticed a seven-headed hydra 17275 | Lair:1 | Killed a seven-headed hydra 17306 | Lair:1 | Noticed a five-headed hydra 17378 | Lair:1 | Reached skill level 10 in Evocations 17459 | Lair:1 | Killed a five-headed hydra 18568 | Lair:2 | Found a labyrinth entrance. 18677 | Lab | Entered a labyrinth 18781 | Lab | Noticed a minotaur 18786 | Lab | Killed a minotaur 18792 | Lab | Identified the Almanac of Karma 18945 | Lair:2 | Noticed a four-headed hydra 18952 | Lair:2 | Killed a four-headed hydra 19050 | Lair:2 | Noticed a catoblepas 19059 | Lair:2 | HP: 2/47 [catoblepas (35)] 19066 | Lair:2 | HP: 2/47 [something/blast of calcifying dust (1)] 19078 | Lair:2 | Reached skill level 10 in Short Blades 19079 | Lair:2 | Killed a catoblepas 19502 | Lair:2 | Found a hole to the Spider Nest. 19541 | Lair:2 | Reached XP level 12. HP: 51/51 MP: 25/25 19982 | Lair:3 | Identified a scroll of acquirement 19983 | Lair:3 | Got a flickering silver amulet 19984 | Lair:3 | Identified the amulet of the Endless Expanse {+Rage Dex+6} (You acquired it on level 3 of the Lair of Beasts) 20686 | Lair:3 | Learned a level 2 spell: Poisonous Vapours 20690 | Lair:3 | Learned a level 3 spell: Mephitic Cloud 20695 | Lair:3 | Learned a level 4 spell: Olgreb's Toxic Radiance 20801 | Lair:3 | Reached skill level 1 in Poison Magic 20939 | Lair:3 | Reached skill level 1 in Air Magic 21394 | Lair:4 | Noticed a six-headed hydra 21401 | Lair:4 | Killed a six-headed hydra 21500 | Lair:4 | Found a staircase to the Shoals. 22047 | Lair:4 | Reached skill level 10 in Hexes 22114 | Lair:4 | Reached skill level 10 in Spellcasting 22629 | Lair:4 | Noticed a five-headed hydra 22646 | Lair:4 | Killed a five-headed hydra 22805 | Lair:4 | Reached XP level 13. HP: 40/55 MP: 9/28 23205 | Lair:5 | Found a staircase to the Slime Pits. 24577 | Lair:6 | Entered Level 6 of the Lair of Beasts 24749 | Lair:6 | Reached skill level 5 in Poison Magic 24757 | Lair:6 | Learned a level 4 spell: Airstrike 24760 | Lair:6 | Learned a level 2 spell: Passwall 24765 | Lair:6 | Learned a level 4 spell: Petrify 25181 | Lair:6 | Reached skill level 5 in Air Magic 26253 | Lair:6 | Found the +3 warlock's mirror {reflect} 26466 | Lair:6 | Reached skill level 1 in Shields 27606 | Orc:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Orcish Mines 27642 | Orc:2 | Entered Level 2 of the Orcish Mines 27646 | Orc:2 | Noticed an ettin 27647 | Orc:2 | Noticed Rupert 27671 | D:9 | Killed an ettin 27857 | D:9 | Killed Rupert 27857 | D:9 | Reached skill level 1 in Fighting 28020 | Orc:2 | Reached XP level 14. HP: 61/61 MP: 17/31 28475 | Orc:1 | Noticed an orc warlord 28821 | Orc:1 | Killed an orc warlord 29332 | Orc:2 | Noticed an orc warlord 29425 | Orc:2 | Noticed an orc warlord 30117 | Orc:2 | Killed an orc warlord 30212 | Orc:2 | Killed an orc warlord 30876 | Orc:2 | Found Relalevo's Assorted Antiques. 30876 | Orc:2 | Found Busaityu's Assorted Antiques. 30878 | Orc:2 | Found Ajal's Antique Armour Boutique. 30878 | Orc:2 | Found Ytze's Weapon Shoppe. 30940 | Orc:2 | Found a staircase to the Elven Halls. 31005 | Orc:2 | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting 31147 | Orc:2 | Reached skill level 5 in Shields 31762 | D:11 | Reached skill level 1 in Transmutations 31878 | D:11 | Reached skill level 1 in Earth Magic 32081 | D:11 | Found an iron altar of Okawaru. 32326 | D:11 | Noticed Vuxaycw's ghost (novice SpVM) 32600 | D:11 | Found a flickering gateway to a bazaar. 33268 | D:12 | Reached XP level 15. HP: 73/73 MP: 32/32 33574 | D:12 | Noticed Snorg 33598 | D:12 | Killed Snorg 35435 | D:13 | Reached skill level 5 in Transmutations Skill XL: | 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 | ---------------+----------------------------------------------+----- Hexes | 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 | 11,0 Stealth | 5 6 7 8 9 11 13 | 13,5 Dodging | 4 5 6 8 9 11 13 | 13,6 Short Blades | 2 3 4 5 7 8 10 | 10,5 Evocations | 1 2 3 5 7 9 10 | 10,0 Spellcasting | 5 8 10 12 | 12,1 Poison Magic | 4 7 8 | 8,0 Air Magic | 3 6 8 | 8,0 Shields | 2 5 | 5,9 Fighting | 1 5 6 | 6,3 Transmutations | 3 5 | 5,1 Earth Magic | 2 3 | 3,5 Action | 1- 3 | 4- 6 | 7- 9 | 10-12 | 13-15 || total -------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------++------- Melee: Dagger | 164 | 127 | 643 | 308 | || 1242 Short sword | | | 146 | 368 | 1004 || 1518 Long sword | | | | 62 | || 62 Fire: Hunting sling | | | | 20 | || 20 Throw: Tomahawk | | | | | 6 || 6 Cast: Corona | 13 | 2 | 20 | 5 | 2 || 42 Ensorcelled Hiber | 3 | 25 | 20 | 116 | 10 || 174 Confuse | | 3 | 71 | 60 | 134 || 268 Tukima's Dance | | | 2 | 2 | 15 || 19 Poisonous Vapours | | | | 17 | 45 || 62 Mephitic Cloud | | | | 3 | 42 || 45 Olgreb's Toxic Ra | | | | | 41 || 41 Airstrike | | | | | 9 || 9 Petrify | | | | | 2 || 2 Evoke: Wand | | | 4 | 20 | 9 || 33 Lamp of fire | | | | | 1 || 1 Use: Scroll | | 10 | 10 | 10 | 8 || 38 Stab: Sleeping | 15 | 20 | 21 | 86 | 60 || 202 Distracted | 1 | 1 | 2 | 7 | 12 || 23 Confused | | | 37 | 44 | 100 || 181 Paralysed | | | | 2 | 1 || 3 Petrified | | | | 1 | 2 || 3 Petrifying | | | | | 1 || 1 Eat: Ration | | 2 | 8 | 7 | 7 || 24 Armor: Robe | 12 | 10 | 31 | 25 | 11 || 89 Dodge: Dodged | 117 | 86 | 519 | 427 | 389 || 1538 Block: Buckler | | | | | 194 || 194 Reflection | | | | | 14 || 14 Table legend: A = Spawn XP B = Non-spawn XP C = Spawn XP percentage of total XP D = Spawn monster count E = Non-spawn monster count F = Spawn count percentage of total count G = Total turns spent on level A B C D E F G +---------+---------+-------+---------+---------+-------+--------- Total | 0 | 117048 | 0,0 | 0 | 685 | 0,0 | 35881 +---------+---------+-------+---------+---------+-------+--------- D:1 | 0 | 29 | 0,0 | 0 | 20 | 0,0 | 1071 D:2 | 0 | 29 | 0,0 | 0 | 17 | 0,0 | 1215 D:3 | 0 | 60 | 0,0 | 0 | 17 | 0,0 | 1370 D:4 | 0 | 438 | 0,0 | 0 | 19 | 0,0 | 1287 D:5 | 0 | 934 | 0,0 | 0 | 32 | 0,0 | 2063 D:6 | 0 | 785 | 0,0 | 0 | 22 | 0,0 | 1802 D:7 | 0 | 1191 | 0,0 | 0 | 26 | 0,0 | 1597 D:8 | 0 | 2082 | 0,0 | 0 | 25 | 0,0 | 1880 D:9 | 0 | 5845 | 0,0 | 0 | 39 | 0,0 | 3053 D:10 | 0 | 3966 | 0,0 | 0 | 45 | 0,0 | 2123 D:11 | 0 | 7758 | 0,0 | 0 | 48 | 0,0 | 1171 D:12 | 0 | 10024 | 0,0 | 0 | 53 | 0,0 | 1668 D:13 | 0 | 5913 | 0,0 | 0 | 36 | 0,0 | 1281 Lair:1 | 0 | 4899 | 0,0 | 0 | 20 | 0,0 | 1491 Lair:2 | 0 | 4583 | 0,0 | 0 | 13 | 0,0 | 1320 Lair:3 | 0 | 5318 | 0,0 | 0 | 24 | 0,0 | 1455 Lair:4 | 0 | 11369 | 0,0 | 0 | 41 | 0,0 | 1921 Lair:5 | 0 | 4730 | 0,0 | 0 | 23 | 0,0 | 1530 Lair:6 | 0 | 15966 | 0,0 | 0 | 45 | 0,0 | 2571 Orc:1 | 0 | 4230 | 0,0 | 0 | 21 | 0,0 | 1477 Orc:2 | 0 | 25676 | 0,0 | 0 | 98 | 0,0 | 2308 Lab | 0 | 1223 | 0,0 | 0 | 1 | 0,0 | 123 +---------+---------+-------+---------+---------+-------+---------

Friday, 2nd March 2018, 01:04 by tasonir

if you're just training transmutations for petrify, don't overtrain it too much. You can always train more earth if you want a bit more spellpower, which has more useful spells that you might learn (LRD, iron shot, clutch, etc). I'm assuming you aren't planning on doing something crazy like convert to a statue form melee bruiser.

Usually the main problem that spriggan stabbers encounter is how to handle things that are difficult/impossible to stab in the late game. I personally think conjurations are the best way to go in general, as short blades are horrible as actual melee weapons, and you have very limited ranged weapon options. Here's my spriggan conjurer character, who went magic all the way from the start, but still would be an example of roughly where you want to be heading for late game:

http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/tasonir/mor ... 042722.txt

God switch not required - Gozag is fine all game long. If you do want to melee, you can also take a page from the same character: Lajatang's are probably spriggan's best weapon, especially since they have low experience requirements and you're 'converting' from a stabber so you don't have a lot to spare. That being said being in melee range with -30% health is always somewhat risky, although being very fast is helpful for getting away once you do take some bad hits. The safest route is always to just cast some big level 5-6 spells at high range, and then run away if there's anything still alive once you've run out/are low on mana. Do train enough spellcasting to keep your spell hunger low, but it doesn't have to be zero.

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