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Swamp Slogger

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Joined: Saturday, 16th September 2017, 21:17

Post Monday, 5th February 2018, 20:34

TrMo^Chei

Trying this out, and I like it. Never had a chance to fully heal after a spontaneous banishment, unfortunately...and died literally as I was trying to leave.

Oh well.
  Code:
 Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.21.1-1-g345015f (webtiles) character file.

72634 Alphaeus the Trollish Aeon (level 15, -3/149 HPs)
             Began as a Troll Monk on Feb 5, 2018.
             Was the Champion of Cheibriados.
             Killed from afar by a deep elf knight (24 damage)
             ... with a stone arrow
             ... on level 1 of the Elven Halls.
             The game lasted 00:54:35 (17297 turns).

Alphaeus the Trollish Aeon (Troll Monk)            Turns: 17297, Time: 00:54:36

Health: -3/149     AC: 20    Str: 38    XL:     15   Next: 1%
Magic:  16/19      EV: 18    Int: 26    God:    Cheibriados [******]
Gold:   1807       SH: 14    Dex: 29    Spells: 14/14 levels left

rFire    . . .     SeeInvis .     - Unarmed
rCold    + + +     Gourm    +   G - +0 shield
rNeg     . . .     Faith    .   p - +1 ice dragon scales
rPois    .         Spirit   .   O - +0 hat {MR+}
rElec    +         Reflect  .   m - +0 cloak
rCorr    .         Harm     .   (gloves unavailable)
MR       ++...                  (boots unavailable)
Stlth    +.........             (no amulet)
HPRegen  0.74/turn              P - +2 ring of dexterity
MPRegen  0.16/turn              X - ring "Avvoh" {Wiz rElec rF+}

@: very slightly contaminated, invisible, very slow
A: large, unfitting armour, claws 3, horns 1, yellow scales 1, cold resistance
2, fast metabolism 3, gourmand, low mp 1, regeneration 1, shaggy fur 1, tough
skin 2
a: Bend Time, Temporal Distortion, Slouch, Step From Time, Renounce Religion


You were on level 1 of the Elven Halls.
You worshipped Cheibriados.
Cheibriados was exalted by your worship.
You were near starving.

You visited 5 branches of the dungeon, and saw 21 of its levels.
You visited the Abyss 1 time.
You also visited: Sewer.

You collected 1937 gold pieces.
You spent 130 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Hand Weapons
 t - a +4 morningstar
 x - a +3 flail of draining
 T - the +6 quarterstaff of Valour {crush, rElec}
   (You found it on level 6 of the Lair of Beasts)   
   
   It inflicts extra damage upon your enemies.
   
   It insulates you from electricity.
Missiles
 M - 6 tomahawks (quivered)
Armour
 m - a +0 cloak (worn)
 p - +1 ice dragon scales (worn)
 w - +0 steam dragon scales
 G - a +0 shield (worn)
 L - a +0 troll leather armour
 O - a +0 hat of magic resistance (worn)
Magical Staves
 H - an uncursed staff of air
Jewellery
 a - a +5 ring of evasion {unknown}
 j - an uncursed ring of ice
 q - an uncursed ring of stealth
 y - an uncursed ring of fire
 P - a +2 ring of dexterity (left claw)
 X - the ring "Avvoh" (right claw) {Wiz rElec rF+}
   (You found it on level 6 of the Lair of Beasts)   
   
   [ring of wizardry]
   
   It improves your spell success rate.
   It protects you from fire.
   It insulates you from electricity.
Wands
 A - a wand of flame (97)
 F - a wand of iceblast (13)
 R - a wand of acid (5)
 U - a wand of digging (14)
Scrolls
 e - 5 scrolls of immolation
 g - 5 scrolls of identify
 i - 8 scrolls of teleportation
 n - 7 scrolls of fog
 o - 9 scrolls of remove curse
 r - 3 scrolls of fear
 s - 4 scrolls of magic mapping
 B - 2 scrolls of blinking
 K - 4 scrolls of amnesia
 N - a scroll of holy word
 S - a scroll of summoning
 V - 4 scrolls of enchant armour
Potions
 c - 2 potions of berserk rage
 d - 7 potions of brilliance
 f - 3 potions of resistance
 h - a potion of cancellation {unknown}
 k - 2 potions of haste
 l - a potion of might
 u - 3 potions of magic
 v - 3 potions of curing
 z - a potion of flight
 C - 2 potions of mutation
 D - 2 potions of lignification
 E - a potion of ambrosia
 Q - a potion of agility
Miscellaneous
 I - a phial of floods
Comestibles
 b - 46 rations


   Skills:
 + Level 9.7 Fighting
 - Level 10.0 Armour
 - Level 10.0 Dodging
 - Level 1.0 Stealth
 - Level 9.4 Shields
 - Level 10.0 Unarmed Combat
 * Level 11.0 Invocations


You had 14 spell levels left.
You didn't know any spells.

Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (11/15)            Temple (1/1) D:7            Lair (6/6) D:10
  Swamp (0/4) Lair:4        Snake (0/4) Lair:2        Slime (0/5) Lair:6
    Orc (2/2) D:11            Elf (1/3) Orc:2       

Altars:
Cheibriados
Dithmenos
Sif Muna
Trog
Yredelemnul
Zin
The Shining One
Beogh

Shops:
Orc:2 %!?[


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You are too large for most types of armour.
You have claws for hands.
Your metabolism is lightning-fast.
You like to eat raw meat.
Your natural rate of healing is unusually fast.
You are covered in fur. (AC +1)
You have very tough skin. (AC +2)
You have a pair of small horns on your head.
You are partially covered in yellow scales. (AC +2)
Your flesh is very cold resistant. (rC++)
Your magical capacity is low. (-10% MP)


Message History

The arrow barely misses the water elemental.
The deep elf knight shoots an arrow.
The arrow barely misses the water elemental.
The deep elf knight shoots an arrow. The arrow hits you!
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
The deep elf knight shoots an arrow. The arrow misses you.
A deep elf mage comes into view. It is wielding a rapier.
You see here an arrow.
The deep elf knight shoots an arrow. You block the arrow.
You see here 2 arrows.
The deep elf knight shoots an arrow. The arrow closely misses you.
The deep elf mage shouts!
The deep elf knight shoots an arrow. The arrow barely misses you.
The deep elf knight shoots an arrow. The arrow hits you!
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
There is a staircase back to the Mines here.
You can't go down here!
The deep elf knight casts a spell at something.
The stone arrow hits you!
You die...

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You could see a deep elf knight, a water elemental and 2 deep elf magi.

Vanquished Creatures
  A lich (Abyss:3)
  A tentacled starspawn (Abyss:3)
  A very ugly thing (Elf:1)
  Nessos (Lair:5)
  The ghost of Alphaeus the Grappler, a journeyman TrMo of Cheibriados (Lair:2)
  The ghost of BisonMan the Blocker, a journeyman MiFi of Okawaru (D:11)
  A hydra (Lair:6)
  2 dancing weapons (Elf:1)
  3 two-headed ogres
  A thrashing horror (Abyss:3)
  4 orc high priests
  A glowing orange brain (Abyss:3)
  Pikel (D:4)
  2 orc knights (Orc:1)
  A wolf spider (Lair:6)
  A deep elf mage (Elf:1)
  2 slime creatures (Lair:6)
  An orc sorcerer (Orc:1)
  2 ugly things
  31 elephants
  13 black mambas
  A gargoyle (D:11)
  2 guardian serpents
  A smoke demon (Abyss:3)
  14 spiny frogs
  3 kobold demonologists (Abyss:3)
  A rime drake (Lair:4)
  7 komodo dragons
  A demonic crawler (Abyss:3)
  An ancient zyme (Abyss:3)
  A queen bee (Lair:5)
  5 large abominations (Abyss:3)
  5 polar bears
  3 meliai (Lair:5)
  2 hornets (Lair:6)
  19 blink frogs
  2 trolls
  4 hippogriffs
  A water elemental (Elf:1)
  3 spriggans
  A redback (Lair:6)
  2 wraiths
  11 wyverns
  30 yaks
  2 basilisks
  A chaos spawn (Abyss:3)
  A neqoxec (Abyss:3)
  A steam dragon (D:10)
  2 insubstantial wisps (D:10)
  4 wargs
  A naga (Lair:2)
  20 water moccasins
  8 porcupines
  2 phantoms
  Purgy (D:3)
  2 black bears
  15 orc warriors
  2 eyes of draining
  4 ice beasts
  4 sky beasts
  6 wolves
  5 ogres
  7 centaurs
  10 crocodiles
  2 big kobolds
  10 bullfrogs
  3 gnoll sergeants
  A water moccasin zombie (D:5)
  A scorpion (D:6)
  A wyvern skeleton (D:11)
  33 killer bees
  5 wights (D:6)
  2 howler monkeys
  2 electric eels (Lair:4)
  5 crimson imps
  2 centaur zombies
  A quasit (D:11)
  2 hounds
  3 jellies
  28 orc priests
  24 orc wizards
  Crazy Yiuf (D:2)
  2 gnoll shamans (D:7)
  3 centaur skeletons
  3 bullfrog skeletons
  3 iguanas
  Natasha (twice) (D:4)
  9 worker ants
  A hound zombie (D:6)
  2 hound skeletons
  A worker ant zombie (D:5)
  A howler monkey skeleton (D:5)
  4 river rats
  11 adders
  16 gnolls
  A shadow imp (D:6)
  2 oozes
  3 worms
  2 dart slugs
  12 leopard geckos
  63 orcs
  10 ball pythons
  13 bats
  7 giant cockroaches
  4 goblins
  20 hobgoblins
  6 jackals
  3 quokkas
  10 frilled lizards
  20 kobolds
  34 rats
  A fungus (D:2)
  A plant (Lair:4)
686 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (others)
  A dancing weapon (Elf:1)
  An unseen horror (D:10)
  Natasha (D:4)
  An adder (D:5)
  8 orcs
  A quokka (D:4)
  A bush (Lair:6)
  23 fungi
  28 plants
  4 starspawn tentacles (Abyss:3)
69 creatures vanquished.

Grand Total: 755 creatures vanquished

Notes
Turn   | Place    | Note
-------+----------+-------------------------------------------
     0 | D:1      | Alphaeus the Troll Monk began the quest for the Orb.
     0 | D:1      | Reached XP level 1. HP: 22/22 MP: 0/0
   121 | D:1      | Reached XP level 2. HP: 27/29 MP: 1/1
   314 | D:1      | Reached XP level 3. HP: 36/36 MP: 2/2
  1022 | D:2      | Found a faded altar of an unknown god.
  1103 | D:2      | Reached XP level 4. HP: 44/44 MP: 3/3
  1605 | D:2      | Found a runed door.
  1611 | D:2      | Noticed Crazy Yiuf
  1620 | D:2      | Killed Crazy Yiuf
  1791 | D:3      | Reached XP level 5. HP: 43/50 MP: 4/4
  1916 | D:3      | Noticed Purgy
  2055 | D:3      | Killed Purgy
  2055 | D:3      | Reached skill level 5 in Unarmed Combat
  2307 | D:4      | Noticed a slave
  2310 | D:4      | Noticed Pikel
  2322 | D:4      | Noticed a slave
  2323 | D:4      | Noticed a slave
  2327 | D:4      | Noticed a slave
  2332 | D:4      | HP: 2/50 [Pikel/whip of freezing (2)]
  2335 | D:4      | Killed Pikel
  2335 | D:4      | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging
  2335 | D:4      | Reached XP level 6. HP: 12/59 MP: 5/5
  2335 | D:4      | Reached XP level 7. HP: 14/66 MP: 6/6
  2949 | D:4      | Noticed Natasha
  2961 | D:4      | Killed Natasha
  3146 | D:4      | Killed Natasha
  3187 | D:4      | Noticed Natasha
  3194 | D:4      | Killed Natasha
  3231 | D:4      | Reached XP level 8. HP: 75/75 MP: 7/7
  3293 | D:5      | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
  4325 | D:6      | Found a glowing drain.
  4335 | Sewer    | Entered a sewer
  4586 | Sewer    | Reached XP level 9. HP: 70/83 MP: 8/8
  4862 | D:6      | Reached skill level 10 in Unarmed Combat
  4929 | D:6      | Found a glowing silver altar of Zin.
  5394 | D:7      | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple.
  5416 | Temple   | Entered the Ecumenical Temple
  5427 | Temple   | Became a worshipper of Cheibriados the Contemplative
  5427 | Temple   | Reached * piety under Cheibriados
  5427 | Temple   | Reached ** piety under Cheibriados
  5754 | D:7      | Reached *** piety under Cheibriados
  6221 | D:8      | Noticed a two-headed ogre
  6229 | D:8      | Killed a two-headed ogre
  6229 | D:8      | Reached XP level 10. HP: 93/94 MP: 9/9
  6668 | D:8      | Noticed a two-headed ogre
  6681 | D:8      | Killed a two-headed ogre
  6715 | D:8      | Reached skill level 10 in Dodging
  6839 | D:8      | Gained mutation: You are robust. (+10% HP) [potion of mutation]
  6839 | D:8      | Gained mutation: Scrolls take you a little longer to read. [potion of mutation]
  6839 | D:8      | Gained mutation: You are partially covered in large bone plates. (SH +4) [potion of mutation]
  6839 | D:8      | Gained mutation: Your muscles are strong. (Str +2) [potion of mutation]
  6852 | D:8      | Lost mutation: Your muscles are strong. (Str +2) [potion of mutation]
  6852 | D:8      | Lost mutation: You are partially covered in large bone plates. (SH +4) [potion of mutation]
  6852 | D:8      | Lost mutation: Scrolls take you a little longer to read. [potion of mutation]
  6852 | D:8      | Gained mutation: You are partially covered in yellow scales. (AC +2) [potion of mutation]
  6852 | D:8      | Gained mutation: Your spells are a little harder to cast, but a little more powerful. [potion of mutation]
  6852 | D:8      | Gained mutation: Your mind is acute. (Int +2) [potion of mutation]
  6853 | D:8      | Lost mutation: Your mind is acute. (Int +2) [potion of mutation]
  6853 | D:8      | Lost mutation: Your spells are a little harder to cast, but a little more powerful. [potion of mutation]
  6853 | D:8      | Lost mutation: You are robust. (+10% HP) [potion of mutation]
  6853 | D:8      | Gained mutation: Your flesh is cold resistant. (rC+) [potion of mutation]
  6853 | D:8      | Gained mutation: You have a pair of small horns on your head. [potion of mutation]
  6853 | D:8      | Gained mutation: Your flesh is very cold resistant. (rC++) [potion of mutation]
  6899 | D:9      | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting
  6907 | D:9      | Reached **** piety under Cheibriados
  6908 | D:9      | Reached skill level 1 in Invocations
  6938 | D:9      | Reached skill level 1 in Armour
  6938 | D:9      | Reached skill level 1 in Shields
  6959 | D:9      | Noticed a two-headed ogre
  6965 | D:9      | Killed a two-headed ogre
  6965 | D:9      | Reached skill level 2 in Invocations
  7291 | D:10     | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon
  7467 | D:10     | Killed an unseen horror
  7467 | D:10     | Reached XP level 11. HP: 62/104 MP: 10/12
  7476 | D:10     | Reached skill level 3 in Invocations
  7556 | D:10     | Reached ***** piety under Cheibriados
  7712 | D:10     | Found a staircase to the Lair.
  7953 | D:11     | Noticed BisonMan's ghost (journeyman MiFi)
  7970 | D:11     | Killed BisonMan's ghost
  7970 | D:11     | Reached skill level 4 in Invocations
  8083 | D:11     | Noticed a green ugly thing
  8096 | D:11     | Killed a green ugly thing
  8156 | D:11     | Reached skill level 5 in Armour
  8543 | D:11     | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines.
  8825 | Orc:1    | Entered Level 1 of the Orcish Mines
  8903 | Orc:1    | Noticed an orc knight
  8928 | Orc:1    | Killed an orc knight
  8928 | Orc:1    | Reached skill level 5 in Invocations
  8937 | Orc:1    | Reached XP level 12. HP: 36/115 MP: 14/14
  8947 | Orc:1    | Reached ****** piety under Cheibriados
  9067 | Orc:1    | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh.
  9329 | Orc:2    | Entered Level 2 of the Orcish Mines
  9374 | Orc:2    | Found a staircase to the Elven Halls.
  9480 | Orc:2    | Noticed an orc high priest
  9484 | Orc:2    | Noticed an orc high priest
  9506 | Orc:1    | Killed an orc high priest
  9788 | Orc:2    | Noticed an orc high priest
  9914 | Orc:2    | Killed an orc high priest
  9914 | Orc:2    | Reached skill level 5 in Shields
  9926 | Orc:2    | Noticed an orc high priest
  9946 | Orc:2    | Killed an orc high priest
  9953 | Orc:2    | Killed an orc high priest
 10309 | Orc:2    | Found Vecoj's Magic Scroll Emporium.
 10309 | Orc:2    | Found Geniol's Antique Armour Emporium.
 10315 | Orc:2    | Found Mamocum's Food Shoppe.
 10315 | Orc:2    | Found Doqasheh's Distillery.
 10331 | Orc:2    | Bought a potion of curing for 30 gold pieces
 10331 | Orc:2    | Bought a potion of heal wounds for 50 gold pieces
 10331 | Orc:2    | Bought a potion of heal wounds for 50 gold pieces
 10566 | Lair:1   | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts
 11409 | Lair:2   | Reached skill level 6 in Invocations
 11448 | Lair:2   | Found a staircase to the Snake Pit.
 11618 | Lair:2   | Noticed Alphaeus's ghost (journeyman TrMo)
 11644 | Lair:2   | Killed Alphaeus's ghost
 11891 | Lair:2   | Reached XP level 13. HP: 71/124 MP: 16/16
 12901 | Lair:4   | Found a staircase to the Swamp.
 13213 | Lair:4   | Found a glowing silver altar of Zin.
 13839 | Lair:5   | Reached skill level 7 in Invocations
 14043 | Lair:5   | Noticed Nessos
 14055 | Lair:5   | Killed Nessos
 14306 | Lair:5   | HP: 5/124 [killer bee (6)]
 14989 | Lair:6   | Entered Level 6 of the Lair of Beasts
 15019 | Lair:5   | Reached XP level 14. HP: 110/133 MP: 18/18
 15076 | Lair:5   | Reached skill level 8 in Invocations
 15221 | Lair:6   | Reached skill level 10 in Armour
 15462 | Lair:6   | Reached skill level 9 in Invocations
 15692 | Lair:6   | Found a staircase to the Slime Pits.
 15840 | Lair:6   | Paralysed by a hornet for 1 turns
 16221 | Lair:6   | Identified the +6 quarterstaff of Valour {crush, rElec} (You found it on level 6 of the Lair of Beasts)
 16346 | Lair:6   | Got a glittering lapis lazuli ring
 16503 | Lair:6   | Identified the ring "Avvoh" {Wiz rElec rF+} (You found it on level 6 of the Lair of Beasts)
 16830 | Elf:1    | Entered Level 1 of the Elven Halls
 16842 | Elf:1    | Noticed a deep elf sorcerer
 16852 | Elf:1    | Cast into level 3 of the Abyss (a deep elf sorcerer)
 16861 | Abyss:3  | Noticed a profane servitor
 16889 | Abyss:3  | Noticed a reaper
 16985 | Abyss:3  | Noticed a lich
 17000 | Abyss:3  | Killed a lich
 17000 | Abyss:3  | Reached skill level 10 in Invocations
 17202 | Abyss:3  | Gained mutation: Your magical capacity is low. (-10% MP) [a neqoxec]
 17213 | Abyss:3  | Noticed a tentacled starspawn
 17232 | Abyss:3  | Killed a tentacled starspawn
 17245 | Abyss:3  | Noticed a profane servitor
 17246 | Abyss:3  | Noticed a cyan very ugly thing
 17247 | Abyss:3  | Noticed a cyan very ugly thing
 17255 | Elf:1    | Escaped the Abyss
 17272 | Elf:1    | Killed a cyan very ugly thing
 17275 | Elf:1    | Reached skill level 11 in Invocations
 17282 | Elf:1    | Reached XP level 15. HP: 34/149 MP: 12/19
 17297 | Elf:1    | Killed from afar by a deep elf knight

Skill      XL: |  1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9 10 11 12 13 14 |
---------------+-------------------------------------------+-----
Dodging        |        3     5        6  9 10             | 10.0
Unarmed Combat |        4     6        9 10                | 10.0
Fighting       |                    3     4  5  6  7     9 |  9.7
Invocations    |                             2  5  6  7 11 | 11.0
Armour         |                             2  5  8  9 10 | 10.0
Shields        |                             2  4  6  9    |  9.4
Stealth        |                                           |  1.0

Action                   |  1- 3 |  4- 6 |  7- 9 | 10-12 | 13-15 || total
-------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------++-------
Melee: Unarmed           |   103 |    96 |   536 |   649 |   771 ||  2155
       Punch             |       |       |    16 |    38 |       ||    54
       Headbutt          |       |       |       |   195 |   302 ||   497
Invok: Slouch            |       |       |       |     3 |     2 ||     5
       Step From Time    |       |       |       |       |     3 ||     3
  Use: Potion            |       |     4 |     3 |    11 |    10 ||    28
       Scroll            |       |       |    11 |     7 |    10 ||    28
 Stab: Sleeping          |     2 |     3 |     1 |     1 |       ||     7
  Eat: Chunk             |     7 |    16 |    32 |    38 |    23 ||   116
       Ration            |       |     1 |       |       |     2 ||     3
Armor: Robe              |    35 |    85 |     3 |       |       ||   123
       Ice dragon scales |       |       |   336 |   314 |   389 ||  1039
       Skin              |       |       |       |    35 |       ||    35
Dodge: Dodged            |    62 |   153 |   339 |   613 |   809 ||  1976
Block: Shield            |       |       |       |    77 |   843 ||   920

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Post Monday, 5th February 2018, 21:21

Re: TrMo^Chei

What exactly were you doing in Elf at this point? Really weird.

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Post Monday, 5th February 2018, 21:37

Re: TrMo^Chei

As Magipi pointed out, elf is a much later branch. Standard order is Dungeon (until lair) -> lair -> orc -> finish dungeon -> lair sub branch 1 and 2 -> vaults 1-4 -> depths -> Vaults:5 -> Zot -> escape.

Elf is an optional branch, and if you're going to do it, it would usually go after depths, before vaults:5. Crypt can also be done at this time. Be careful you don't accidentally go into tomb from crypt; tomb is arguably the hardest branch in crawl, and is only for 15 rune games.

A few common tweaks are possibly doing orc before lair, doing vaults after getting one rune, or getting the abyssal or slimy rune instead of the vaults:5 silver rune. I still generally recommend the silver rune over slimy, but if you know the slime pits well some characters are better equipped to handle it.

Elf has a few banishers, and you don't want to go there without at least MR+++, unless you really don't mind the abyss.

Edit: it might be helpful to hear from you about what your next goal is; are you trying for a 3 rune win, 15 rune win? Do you have any other goals in mind - high winrate, trying to build the strongest character you can, speedruns, ziggs, etc?

I ask because if you're just trying to win then you're going into the wrong branches that you don't need to enter at all. If you do want to 15 rune, they should probably still be entered later.

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Post Monday, 5th February 2018, 22:53

Re: TrMo^Chei

1) I don't usually hit Elf before lair sub-brances, but I had neither rPois nor rCorr and was low on cure potions. Regen certainly helps, but hitting either Snake or Swamp without rPois was going to be really iffy (I have done it several times successfully, but on builds with a bit better defenses), and Slimes was simply out of the question without rCorr. I was hoping that Elf:1 wouldn't be too bad and I could pick up some kind of resistance there. I wasn't super worried about the Abyss -- as that shows, I chewed through most of the enemies I ran into -- but the pile of enemies afterwards (which refused to go away with Step From Time) just did me in.

2) Technically I'm going for a 15 rune win. I know 3 rune is a legit win, but I want to clear out, so to speak. 500 failed runs from now, that might change.

3) Elf is one of those branches I only do if I want gear, otherwise I either skip it or do it when I have enough power to not be worried by it.

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Post Monday, 5th February 2018, 23:16

Re: TrMo^Chei

On the topic of branches: Not going down to D:15 is basically giving up free XP (and more chances for that rPois ring.) I usually do elf before depths if I have lots of MR, but yeah, not until after my first 2 rune branches. Similarly, Slime should be tackled after Depths - if you're going for that rune, it should be instead of Vaults:5 as mentioned above - even if you have rC, rN, rMut, rCorr, the monsters in there STILL hit like a truck, and getting surrounded in the TRJ fight is a serious danger for most characters.

And Elf is more dangerous than Swamp or Snake, even if you don't have rPois. Also note that Swamp has almost guaranteed rPois with swamp dragon scales. If I've cleared dungeon, orc, lair, and don't have rPois but do have swamp, that's my next branch, 100% of the time. (Even if I can't wear swamp dragon scales.)

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Post Tuesday, 6th February 2018, 05:43

Re: TrMo^Chei

I usually do Elf before Depths, not after. Depths and even Vaults 1-4 can have lots of elves so there is no point in skipping Elf IMHO.
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Post Tuesday, 6th February 2018, 07:21

Re: TrMo^Chei

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 P - a +2 ring of dexterity (left claw)
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 o - 9 scrolls of remove curse
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