Ridiculously good weapon on D4...Doom must be coming


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Swamp Slogger

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Post Sunday, 28th January 2018, 22:00

Ridiculously good weapon on D4...Doom must be coming

So, been trying to get back into the game, running Gnolls because I like the versatility and late-game tactics. Wasn't getting far, usually do to me just being distracted...or a stupidly persistent ghost.

On this run, playing a Gnoll Monk. Started out with a Falchion, planning to play with Cheib most likely (Gnoll of Cheib gives ridiculous casting and melee potency, with Cheib's usual downsides, ofc). Then I found the Zephyr bow...on D4.

Just realized I've never played a ranged-primary character (done ranged support before, but not primary). Burning through the levels and realized I need to decide on a god. I'm not sure which one to do, because Oka for ammunition and weapons, but with something so good Ashen seemed like a real possibility (just went in the temple, so not all gods shown on this dump) as well as Dith.

Input on that choice would be useful on this Advice thread!

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Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.21.0-30-g47ce8e4 (webtiles) character file.

Alphaeus the Nimble (Gnoll Monk)                    Turns: 6342, Time: 00:16:50

Health: 80/80      AC:  8    Str: 16    XL:     10   Next: 4%
Magic:  17/17      EV: 17    Int: 13    God:   
Gold:   322        SH:  0    Dex: 21    Spells: 15/18 levels left

rFire    . . .     SeeInvis +   y - +8 longbow "Zephyr" {speed, Dex+3 SInv}
rCold    . . .     Gourm    .   (shield currently unavailable)
rNeg     . . .     Faith    .   x - +0 ring mail
rPois    .         Spirit   .   O - +1 hat
rElec    .         Reflect  .   (no cloak)
rCorr    .         Harm     .   j - +0 pair of gloves
MR       .....                  (no boots)
Stlth    +++++.....             (no amulet)
HPRegen  0.23/turn              R - ring of stealth
MPRegen  0.15/turn              o - ring of stealth

@: no status effects
A: distributed training, fangs 1, strong nose
a: no special abilities


You are in the Ecumenical Temple.
You are very hungry.

You have visited 2 branches of the dungeon, and seen 9 of its levels.
You have also visited: Sewer.

You have collected 322 gold pieces.

Inventory:

Hand Weapons
 a - a +0 falchion
 s - a glowing dagger
 y - the +8 longbow "Zephyr" (weapon) {speed, Dex+3 SInv}
   (You found it on level 4 of the Dungeon)   
   
   Attacks with this weapon are significantly faster.
   
   It affects your dexterity (+3).
   It lets you see invisible.
 C - a morningstar
 J - a trident of flaming
 K - a dagger of venom
 L - an enchanted whip
 M - a whip of flaming
Missiles
 z - 144 arrows (quivered)
Armour
 b - a +0 robe
 j - a +0 pair of gloves (worn)
 n - a +0 chain mail
 x - a +0 ring mail (worn)
 B - a dyed leather armour
 G - a buckler
 O - a +1 hat (worn)
Jewellery
 e - an uncursed ring of protection from cold
 o - a ring of stealth (right hand)
 r - an uncursed ring of teleportation
 u - an uncursed ring of fire
 P - a large steel ring
 R - a ring of stealth (left hand)
Wands
 A - a wand of polymorph (5)
 S - a wand of acid (13)
Scrolls
 f - a scroll of fear
 h - a scroll of fog
 i - 9 scrolls of identify
 k - a scroll labeled RIYMASHUEW
 l - a scroll labeled USTU FUROLUQ
 p - 2 scrolls labeled BOSISSO YMME
 t - a scroll labeled JOCYNU YJ AGI
 w - 4 scrolls of teleportation
 E - 4 scrolls labeled GELOGG ENLO
 F - a scroll labeled YDAGUI ZYIHUSOQO
 I - a scroll labeled UVEOSU QUEX
 Q - a scroll of remove curse
Potions
 g - 4 potions of curing
 m - a potion of magic
 q - a potion of degeneration
 v - a fuming pink potion
 D - 3 emerald potions
 H - a bubbling orange potion
 N - a silvery potion
Books
 d - a book of Misfortune   
   
    Spells                           Type                      Level
    a - Confusing Touch              Hexes                         1
    b - Confuse                      Hexes                         3
    c - Gell's Gravitas              Translocation                 3
    d - Petrify                      Transmutation/Earth           4
    e - Metabolic Englaciation       Hexes/Ice                     5
    f - Yara's Violent Unravelling   Hexes/Transmutation           5
Comestibles
 c - 7 rations


   Skills:
 + Level 8.2 Fighting
 + Level 4.7 Short Blades
 + Level 8.2 Long Blades
 + Level 4.7 Axes
 + Level 4.7 Maces & Flails
 + Level 4.7 Polearms
 + Level 4.7 Staves
 + Level 4.7 Slings
 + Level 4.7 Bows
 + Level 4.7 Crossbows
 + Level 4.7 Throwing
 + Level 4.7 Armour
 + Level 8.2 Dodging
 + Level 6.4 Stealth
 + Level 4.7 Shields
 + Level 4.7 Unarmed Combat
 + Level 4.7 Spellcasting
 + Level 3.9 Conjurations
 + Level 3.9 Hexes
 + Level 3.9 Charms
 + Level 3.9 Summonings
 + Level 3.9 Necromancy
 + Level 3.9 Translocations
 + Level 3.9 Transmutations
 + Level 3.9 Fire Magic
 + Level 3.9 Ice Magic
 + Level 3.9 Air Magic
 + Level 3.9 Earth Magic
 + Level 3.9 Poison Magic
 + Level 5.2 Invocations
 + Level 4.7 Evocations


You have 15 spell levels left.
You know the following spells:

 Your Spells              Type           Power        Failure   Level  Hunger
a - Confuse               Hex            ##......     21%         3    ###....


Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (8/15)             Temple (1/1) D:4         
  Lair: D:8-11     

Altars:
Elyvilon
Fedhas
Gozag
Makhleb
Nemelex Xobeh
Qazlal
Sif Muna
Trog
Uskayaw
Wu Jian
The Shining One


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

Your experience applies equally to all skills.
You have very sharp teeth.
Your uncanny sense of smell can sniff out nearby items.

Swamp Slogger

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Post Monday, 29th January 2018, 00:31

Re: Ridiculously good weapon on D4...Doom must be coming

Doom came in the form of a Death Knight + amulet of Reflection paired up with a Basilisk on D7. Had he not had that amulet I would have won...and had that Basilisk not been there, I would have won. Oh well. Got another good run going, at least.
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Post Monday, 29th January 2018, 07:38

Re: Ridiculously good weapon on D4...Doom must be coming

Sorry to hear. In that character dump, you had 9 scrolls of identify and a lot of unidentified potions and scrolls. Also an unidentified ring, enchanted leather armour and a scroll of remove curse. I hope you had that stuff identified.

Did you get petrified by the basilisk? If you still had a teleport scroll, that might have saved you.
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Post Monday, 29th January 2018, 07:59

Re: Ridiculously good weapon on D4...Doom must be coming

When you have a stack of 2+ unknown scrolls, read-id them. Together with scrolls of identify you would have all your scrolls/potions known, that included 3 potions of haste and scroll of blinking, quite useful in any fight.
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Swamp Slogger

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Post Monday, 29th January 2018, 15:03

Re: Ridiculously good weapon on D4...Doom must be coming

Everything I had of purport was ID'd by the end. Yeah, the Basilisk petrified me. I was at about 40 HP and only needed to land one more shot to kill the Death Knight. Then I get turned to stone, and they pummel me to death. Ran low on heal potions that game, too, so that didn't help.

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Post Monday, 29th January 2018, 15:05

Re: Ridiculously good weapon on D4...Doom must be coming

Alphaeus wrote:Everything I had of purport was ID'd by the end. Yeah, the Basilisk petrified me. I was at about 40 HP and only needed to land one more shot to kill the Death Knight. Then I get turned to stone, and they pummel me to death. Ran low on heal potions that game, too, so that didn't help.


How do you think I wrote those numbers in my previous post?
I carefully looked at
http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/morgue/ ... 234237.txt

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Scrolls
 f - a scroll of fear
 h - a scroll of fog
 i - 9 scrolls of identify
 k - a scroll of blinking {unknown}
 l - a scroll of enchant weapon {unknown}
 p - 2 scrolls of magic mapping {unknown}
 t - 3 scrolls of enchant armour {unknown}
 w - 2 scrolls of teleportation
 E - 4 scrolls of noise {unknown}
 F - a scroll of amnesia {unknown}
 I - a scroll of summoning {unknown}
 Q - 3 scrolls of remove curse
Potions
 g - a potion of curing
 m - a potion of magic
 q - a potion of degeneration
 v - a potion of lignification {unknown}
 D - 3 potions of haste {unknown}
 H - a potion of agility {unknown}
 N - a potion of might {unknown}


Also another unasked advice from me. Stop playing "one more hit and it will die" mini-game, that's not good thinking for roguelikes because there will be many situations which will "prompt" you to do it and then it takes just a single "bad luck" accident and the game is over. Just escape earlier and then try again (if you really want to).
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Swamp Slogger

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Post Monday, 29th January 2018, 18:52

Re: Ridiculously good weapon on D4...Doom must be coming

VeryAngryFelid wrote:Also another unasked advice from me. Stop playing "one more hit and it will die" mini-game, that's not good thinking for roguelikes because there will be many situations which will "prompt" you to do it and then it takes just a single "bad luck" accident and the game is over. Just escape earlier and then try again (if you really want to).


1) Must have gotten things crossed, though I had them identified.

2) Also, advice heeded. I've been doing another run and playing things much more conservatively (when possible).

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Post Wednesday, 31st January 2018, 12:27

Re: Ridiculously good weapon on D4...Doom must be coming

VeryAngryFelid wrote:Also another unasked advice from me. Stop playing "one more hit and it will die" mini-game, that's not good thinking for roguelikes because there will be many situations which will "prompt" you to do it and then it takes just a single "bad luck" accident and the game is over. Just escape earlier and then try again (if you really want to).
Outgrowing this was a recent development for me and it has helped a great deal.
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Post Thursday, 1st February 2018, 17:58

Re: Ridiculously good weapon on D4...Doom must be coming

VeryAngryFelid wrote:Also another unasked advice from me. Stop playing "one more hit and it will die" mini-game, that's not good thinking for roguelikes because there will be many situations which will "prompt" you to do it and then it takes just a single "bad luck" accident and the game is over. Just escape earlier and then try again (if you really want to).


learndb has a good summary of this advice.

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