How good is Scythe of Curses?


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Halls Hopper

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Joined: Thursday, 17th August 2017, 18:47

Post Sunday, 26th November 2017, 04:02

How good is Scythe of Curses?

So, MfBe. Midgame, in Shoals at the moment. My primary weapons are a +5 halberd of flaming and a +8 antimagic bardiche. I already have polearms at 27. A while back, I also got the +13 Scythe of Curses (http://crawl.chaosforge.org/Scythe_of_curses). The Minotaur in Labyrinth was wielding it. Will the unrand ever be worth using, since it's going to be regularly cursing both me and everything in my inventory? Do the stats and extra powers offset this?
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Crypt Cleanser

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Post Sunday, 26th November 2017, 08:06

Re: How good is Scythe of Curses?

The biggest curse of this weapon is that I will force allies on you. If you don't mind that, with your PA-skill it will be a great weapon. If you don't intend to switch between weapon and launcher constantly, the equipment curses really shouldn't matter.
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Post Sunday, 26th November 2017, 09:17

Re: How good is Scythe of Curses?

The scythe is ok. Curses don't matter, except that you won't be able to swap weapons. You can train throwing for ranged attacks (Mf apts for all launchers are bad). You'll find lots of throwable stuff in Shoals, and Trog will also gift you stuff.

Of course, there's nothing wrong with the +8 antimagic bardiche. Use the scythe if you want something unusual, and the bardiche for a normal game.

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Post Sunday, 26th November 2017, 09:28

Re: How good is Scythe of Curses?

Antimagic Bardiche is a fine weapon, but the Scythe lets you play as the merfolkian Grim Reaper.

+1000 votes for the scythe. Its super fun and is strong enough to win the game.

You can still carry the Bardiche for OoFs if you want.
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Halls Hopper

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Post Sunday, 26th November 2017, 14:39

Re: How good is Scythe of Curses?

Excellent. Grim Reaper Merfolk it is.

That leaves me with the only iffy problem of swapping out resistances. Normally I wouldn’t care, but this is a particular fringe case.

My current armor is an artifact +1 FDS that also has Regen+, but I also have access to TLA and MR+ leather armor. Most of the time I would just keep this, but with scythe of curses, having rC- might be a pain once I hit V and later.

Edit: Here's the morgue, that should help with any other advice I can get. My later-game plan is to abandon the mighty Trog for Jivya, probably once I finish Zot.

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 Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.20.1 (tiles) character file.

Mata the Merfolkian Porcupine (Merfolk Berserker)  Turns: 27624, Time: 01:36:41

Health: 157/157    AC: 24    Str: 24    XL:     19   Next: 63%
Magic:  21/21      EV: 20    Int: 14    God:    Trog [*****.]
Gold:   2708       SH:  6    Dex: 14    Spells: 19/19 levels left

rFire    + + .     SeeInvis +   G - +5 halberd (flame)
rCold    x . .     Gourm    .   (shield currently unavailable)
rNeg     . . .     Faith    .   M - +1 fire dragon scales of Neruq {*Slow rF++ rC- Regen+ Int+7}
rPois    +         Spirit   .   d - +2 hat {SInv}
rElec    .         Reflect  +   R - +2 cloak {+Inv}
rCorr    .         Harm     .   m - +0 pair of gloves
MR       +....                  J - +0 pair of boots
Stlth    ..........             z - +6 amulet of reflection
Regen    0.8/turn               b - ring of poison resistance
MPRegen  0.2/turn               f - +5 ring of protection

@: no status effects
A: change form in water, swift swim, stealthy swim
}: 1/15 runes: barnacled
a: Berserk, Trog's Hand, Brothers in Arms, Burn Spellbooks, Renounce Religion,
Evoke Invisibility


You are on level 1 of the Spider Nest.
You worship Trog.
Trog is extremely pleased with you.
You are not hungry.

You have visited 5 branches of the dungeon, and seen 26 of its levels.
You have also visited: Labyrinth, Bailey, Ice Cave and Volcano.

You have collected 3066 gold pieces.
You have spent 358 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Hand Weapons
 G - a +5 halberd of flaming (weapon)
 T - a +7 antimagic bardiche
Missiles
 e - 28 poisoned javelins
 p - 7 javelins of penetration
 q - 4 throwing nets
 K - a javelin of returning (quivered)
 O - 17 silver javelins
Armour
 d - a +2 hat of see invisible (worn)
 m - a +0 pair of gloves (worn)
 J - a +0 pair of boots (worn)
 M - the +1 fire dragon scales of Neruq (worn) {*Slow rF++ rC- Regen+ Int+7}
   (You found it in a volcano)   
   
   It affects your intelligence (+7).
   It greatly protects you from fire.
   It makes you vulnerable to cold.
   It increases your rate of regeneration.
   It may slow you when you take damage.
 R - a +2 cloak of invisibility (worn)
Jewellery
 b - a ring of poison resistance (left hand)
 f - a +5 ring of protection (right hand)
 n - an uncursed ring of protection from cold
 z - a +6 amulet of reflection (around neck)
 U - an uncursed ring of resist corrosion
 Y - the ring "Afaaqoeck" {rN+ MP+9 SInv}
   (You acquired it in a volcano)   
   
   [ring of positive energy]
   
   It protects you from negative energy.
   It affects your magic capacity (+9).
   It lets you see invisible.
Wands
 k - a wand of enslavement (?/24)
 y - a wand of acid (14/15)
 F - a wand of iceblast (10/15)
 I - a wand of iceblast (13/15)
 P - a wand of acid (11/15)
 X - a wand of enslavement (?/24)
Scrolls
 a - 5 scrolls of remove curse
 i - a scroll of recharging
 o - 4 scrolls of fog
 r - 3 scrolls of blinking
 u - 8 scrolls of teleportation
 B - 3 scrolls of fear
 E - 2 scrolls of magic mapping
Potions
 g - a potion of berserk rage
 h - 9 potions of curing
 s - 2 potions of heal wounds
 t - 5 potions of agility
 v - a potion of resistance
 A - 4 potions of might
 C - 3 potions of mutation
 H - 2 potions of haste
 N - 3 potions of flight
 S - 3 potions of cancellation
Miscellaneous
 Q - a sack of spiders
 V - a phial of floods
 W - a lamp of fire
 Z - 2 boxes of beasts
Comestibles
 c - 13 bread rations
 l - 12 meat rations
 w - 19 royal jellies
 x - 7 fruits


   Skills:
 - Level 15.8 Fighting
 O Level 27 Polearms
 * Level 11.9 Throwing
 - Level 6.1 Armour
 - Level 16.5 Dodging
 - Level 0.9 Unarmed Combat
 - Level 0.8 Spellcasting
 * Level 3.7 Evocations


You have 19 spell levels left.
You don't know any spells.

Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (13/15)            Temple (0/1) D:5            Lair (6/6) D:8
 Shoals (4/4) Lair:3       Spider (1/4) Lair:4        Slime (0/5) Lair:5
    Orc (2/2) D:9             Elf (0/3) Orc:2        Vaults (0/5) D:13

Altars:
Qazlal
Vehumet
Jiyva

Shops:
D:8 =   Orc:2 =%[[   Shoals:2 ?[

Annotations:
D:3 1 runed door
Lair:1 exclusion: orange crystal statue
Shoals:4 Ilsuiw

Message History

You drop a potion of ambrosia.
HP restored.
Found 19 stones.
You found a web!
You now have 2700 gold pieces (gained 26).
Found a phial of floods.
Found 8 gold pieces.
You now have 2708 gold pieces (gained 8).
g - a potion of berserk rage
You found a web!
Things that are here:
a jumping spider corpse; a redback corpse
You see here a potion of ambrosia.
You found a web!
You pick your way through the web.
There is a web here.
There is a crawl-hole back to the Lair here.
You see here a jumping spider corpse.
You see here a jumping spider corpse.
Found a stone staircase leading down.

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There are no monsters in sight!

Vanquished Creatures
  Nikola (Shoals:4)
  Kirke (Shoals:4)
  Gastronok (Lair:1)
  Aizul (Shoals:3)
  A frost giant (IceCv)
  An orc warlord (Bailey)
  Nessos (D:13)
  2 slime creatures (D:13)
  Azrael (D:13)
  Snorg (D:12)
  6 merfolk javelineers (Shoals:4)
  9 merfolk impalers
  Erolcha (D:11)
  A minotaur (Lab)
  8 vault guards (D:13)
  A catoblepas (Lair:4)
  7 hydras
  Erica (Lair:1)
  7 merfolk aquamancers
  2 merfolk avatars
  2 two-headed ogres
  An alligator snapping turtle (Shoals:3)
  A satyr (Shoals:3)
  10 death yaks
  4 orc high priests (Orc:2)
  A deep troll earth mage (D:11)
  Sonja (Orc:2)
  Nergalle (Lair:4)
  5 skeletal warriors
  14 sea snakes
  Pikel (D:6)
  A swamp dragon (Lair:6)
  A wolf spider zombie (D:12)
  10 deep elf magi (Orc:1)
  3 oklob plants (Lair:1)
  An orb spider (Spider:1)
  21 harpies
  3 orc sorcerers (Orc:2)
  An orc knight (Bailey)
  3 wolf spiders
  2 ugly things
  13 manticores
  10 fauns
  5 cyclopes
  Joseph (D:7)
  An ice statue (IceCv)
  7 water nymphs
  8 merfolk sirens
  14 elephants
  4 gargoyles
  4 black mambas
  9 spiny frogs
  8 rime drakes
  An efreet (D:11)
  A demonic crawler (Spider:1)
  5 komodo dragons
  34 merfolk
  4 jumping spiders
  A harpy zombie (D:10)
  11 wind drakes
  22 polar bears
  A harpy skeleton (Volcano)
  Grinder (D:3)
  A hornet (Spider:1)
  5 trolls
  6 snapping turtles
  Prince Ribbit (D:6)
  2 raiju (Lair:6)
  14 dream sheep
  9 blink frogs
  10 hippogriffs
  3 flying skulls (Volcano)
  2 vampires (D:13)
  An alligator skeleton (Volcano)
  Sigmund (D:3)
  16 water elementals
  2 redbacks (Spider:1)
  58 yaks
  Eustachio (D:6)
  3 wyverns
  A human (D:10)
  2 basilisks
  3 hogs (Shoals:4)
  5 fire elementals (D:13)
  4 hungry ghosts (Lab)
  3 steam dragons (Shoals:3)
  7 vampire mosquitoes (Lair:1)
  Menkaure (D:6)
  7 wargs
  An insubstantial wisp (Lair:1)
  2 acid dragons (D:11)
  16 hell hounds
  6 water moccasins
  8 porcupines
  A sky beast (D:12)
  2 swamp drakes
  An ice beast (shapeshifter) (D:13)
  An ice beast (D:10)
  12 black bears
  32 orc warriors
  6 phantoms
  3 necrophages
  8 ogres
  10 centaurs
  12 crocodiles
  37 wolves
  A wyvern zombie (D:10)
  15 bullfrogs
  A wyvern skeleton (D:13)
  6 killer bees
  A scorpion (D:12)
  6 howler monkeys
  2 wights (D:10)
  6 electric eels
  6 crimson imps
  2 bullfrog zombies
  9 hounds
  3 centaur skeletons
  28 orc priests
  5 jellies
  22 orc wizards
  2 bullfrog skeletons
  7 iguanas
  7 worker ants
  3 naga skeletons (Volcano)
  A hound skeleton (D:11)
  Robin (D:3)
  15 gnolls
  15 adders
  3 shadow imps
  12 white imps (D:12)
  An ooze (D:3)
  An adder skeleton (D:5)
  3 worms
  A dart slug (D:1)
  A leopard gecko (D:1)
  77 orcs
  9 giant cockroaches
  25 hobgoblins
  3 jackals (D:2)
  2 quokkas
  3 ball pythons
  5 bats
  3 frilled lizards
  32 goblins
  2 jackal skeletons
  4 kobolds
  A leopard gecko zombie (D:5)
  3 quokka skeletons
  8 rats
  2 fungi (D:3)
  2 plants (Lair:1)
999 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (collateral kills)
  A fire dragon (Lair:6)
  3 orc warriors (Orc:2)
  5 orc priests (Orc:2)
  3 orc wizards (Orc:2)
  An orc (Orc:2)
  A plant (Shoals:4)
14 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (others)
  A manticore (Shoals:4)
  A merfolk siren (Shoals:4)
  2 polar bears
  4 humans (Shoals:4)
  A slave (D:6)
  A bullfrog (D:6)
  5 orcs
  A bush (Lair:6)
  9 fungi (Lair:6)
  50 plants
75 creatures vanquished.

Grand Total: 1088 creatures vanquished

Notes
Turn   | Place    | Note
-------+----------+-------------------------------------------
     0 | D:1      | Mata the Merfolk Berserker began the quest for the Orb.
     0 | D:1      | Reached XP level 1. HP: 18/18 MP: 1/1
   342 | D:1      | Reached XP level 2. HP: 22/25 MP: 2/2
   522 | D:2      | Reached skill level 5 in Polearms
   885 | D:2      | Reached XP level 3. HP: 30/30 MP: 3/3
  1200 | D:2      | Reached XP level 4. HP: 38/38 MP: 4/4
  1280 | D:3      | Noticed Sigmund
  1288 | D:3      | Killed Sigmund
  1288 | D:3      | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting
  1288 | D:3      | Reached skill level 7 in Polearms
  1288 | D:3      | Reached XP level 5. HP: 44/44 MP: 5/5
  1329 | D:3      | Noticed Robin
  1333 | D:3      | Reached ** piety under Trog
  1342 | D:3      | Reached XP level 6. HP: 46/51 MP: 6/6
  1366 | D:3      | Killed Robin
  1367 | D:3      | Reached skill level 8 in Polearms
  1743 | D:3      | Noticed Grinder
  1758 | D:3      | Killed Grinder
  1758 | D:3      | Reached skill level 9 in Polearms
  1758 | D:3      | Reached XP level 7. HP: 56/56 MP: 7/7
  2288 | D:3      | Reached skill level 10 in Polearms
  2313 | D:3      | Found a runed door.
  2583 | D:4      | Reached *** piety under Trog
  2869 | D:5      | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
  3204 | D:5      | Reached skill level 11 in Polearms
  3226 | D:5      | Reached XP level 8. HP: 37/64 MP: 8/8
  3337 | D:5      | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple.
  3574 | D:5      | Reached skill level 12 in Polearms
  4006 | D:6      | Noticed Eustachio
  4033 | D:6      | Noticed Menkaure
  4038 | D:6      | Killed Menkaure
  4038 | D:6      | Reached **** piety under Trog
  4038 | D:6      | Reached skill level 13 in Polearms
  4072 | D:6      | Noticed Prince Ribbit
  4077 | D:6      | Noticed Pikel
  4099 | D:6      | Killed Pikel
  4099 | D:6      | Reached skill level 14 in Polearms
  4099 | D:6      | Reached XP level 9. HP: 63/69 MP: 9/9
  4107 | D:6      | Killed Prince Ribbit
  4129 | D:6      | Reached skill level 15 in Polearms
  4265 | D:6      | Received a gift from Trog
  4267 | D:6      | Killed Eustachio
  4295 | D:6      | Reached skill level 1 in Throwing
  4712 | D:7      | Noticed Joseph
  4743 | D:7      | Killed Joseph
  4817 | D:6      | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging
  4862 | D:6      | Found a radiant altar of Vehumet.
  5432 | D:7      | Received a gift from Trog
  5432 | D:7      | Reached XP level 10. HP: 76/76 MP: 10/10
  5494 | D:7      | Reached skill level 5 in Throwing
  6499 | D:8      | Found Ecwaph's Jewellery Shop.
  6637 | D:8      | Noticed a two-headed ogre
  6642 | D:8      | Killed a two-headed ogre
  7103 | D:8      | Found a staircase to the Lair.
  7397 | D:9      | Noticed a two-headed ogre
  7402 | D:9      | Killed a two-headed ogre
  7402 | D:9      | Reached skill level 10 in Dodging
  7402 | D:9      | Reached XP level 11. HP: 81/81 MP: 11/11
  7526 | D:10     | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon
  7922 | D:9      | Reached ***** piety under Trog
  7963 | D:9      | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines.
  8569 | D:10     | Reached skill level 16 in Polearms
  9089 | D:11     | Noticed Erolcha
  9099 | D:11     | Killed Erolcha
  9193 | D:11     | Noticed a cyclops
  9197 | D:11     | Killed a cyclops
  9259 | D:11     | Reached skill level 17 in Polearms
  9299 | D:11     | Noticed a cyclops
  9303 | D:11     | Killed a cyclops
  9305 | D:11     | Noticed a deep troll earth mage
  9321 | D:11     | Killed a deep troll earth mage
  9321 | D:11     | Received a gift from Trog
  9327 | D:11     | Reached skill level 1 in Evocations
  9331 | D:11     | Reached XP level 12. HP: 42/94 MP: 4/12
  9534 | D:11     | Noticed a four-headed hydra
  9540 | D:11     | Killed a one-headed hydra
  9890 | D:12     | Noticed Snorg
  9910 | D:12     | Killed Snorg
  9910 | D:12     | Reached skill level 10 in Fighting
  9910 | D:12     | Reached skill level 18 in Polearms
  9919 | D:12     | Received a gift from Trog
  9962 | D:12     | Found a frozen archway.
  9990 | IceCv    | Entered an ice cave
 10537 | IceCv    | Reached skill level 19 in Polearms
 10691 | IceCv    | Noticed a death yak
 10691 | IceCv    | Noticed a frost giant
 10715 | IceCv    | Killed a frost giant
 10715 | IceCv    | Reached XP level 13. HP: 106/106 MP: 10/13
 11054 | D:12     | Received a gift from Trog
 11133 | D:12     | Reached skill level 20 in Polearms
 11519 | D:13     | Found a gate to the Vaults.
 11519 | D:13     | Noticed a vault guard
 11519 | D:13     | Noticed a vault guard
 11519 | D:13     | Noticed a vault guard
 11519 | D:13     | Noticed a vault guard
 11519 | D:13     | Noticed a vault guard
 11520 | D:13     | Noticed a vault guard
 11523 | D:13     | Noticed a vault guard
 11530 | D:13     | Killed a vault guard
 11531 | D:13     | Noticed a vault guard
 11543 | D:13     | Killed a vault guard
 11556 | D:13     | Killed a vault guard
 11589 | D:13     | Killed a vault guard
 11606 | D:13     | Killed a vault guard
 11614 | D:13     | Killed a vault guard
 11625 | D:13     | Killed a vault guard
 11626 | D:13     | Killed a vault guard
 11701 | D:13     | Found a labyrinth entrance.
 11711 | Lab      | Entered a labyrinth
 11874 | Lab      | Noticed a minotaur
 11877 | Lab      | Killed a minotaur
 11877 | Lab      | Received a gift from Trog
 11897 | Lab      | Got a slimy plate armour
 11908 | Lab      | Identified the +1 plate armour of Lifelessness {Str+4} (You found it in a labyrinth)
 12200 | D:13     | Reached skill level 21 in Polearms
 12211 | D:13     | Noticed Nessos
 12228 | D:13     | Killed Nessos
 12241 | D:13     | Found a stormy altar of Qazlal.
 12357 | D:13     | Noticed Azrael
 12398 | D:13     | Killed Azrael
 12398 | D:13     | Reached XP level 14. HP: 96/113 MP: 7/14
 13063 | Lair:1   | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts
 13124 | Lair:1   | Noticed Gastronok
 13134 | Lair:1   | Killed Gastronok
 13134 | Lair:1   | Reached skill level 22 in Polearms
 13259 | Lair:1   | Received a gift from Trog
 13361 | Lair:1   | Noticed Erica
 13374 | Lair:1   | Killed Erica
 13455 | Lair:1   | Received a gift from Trog
 14985 | Lair:3   | Found a staircase to the Shoals.
 15278 | Lair:3   | Reached skill level 15 in Dodging
 15641 | Lair:4   | Reached skill level 23 in Polearms
 15993 | Lair:4   | Found a hole to the Spider Nest.
 16098 | Lair:4   | Noticed Nergalle
 16107 | Lair:4   | Killed Nergalle
 16533 | Lair:5   | Reached XP level 15. HP: 119/119 MP: 15/15
 16548 | Lair:5   | Received a gift from Trog
 16754 | Lair:5   | Found a staircase to the Slime Pits.
 16754 | Lair:5   | Found a viscous altar of Jiyva.
 17070 | Lair:6   | Entered Level 6 of the Lair of Beasts
 17080 | Lair:6   | Reached skill level 24 in Polearms
 17720 | Lair:6   | Received a gift from Trog
 18324 | Lair:6   | Reached skill level 25 in Polearms
 19042 | D:8      | Received a gift from Trog
 19173 | Orc:1    | Entered Level 1 of the Orcish Mines
 19194 | Orc:2    | Entered Level 2 of the Orcish Mines
 19225 | Orc:2    | Noticed Sonja
 19230 | Orc:2    | Killed Sonja
 19287 | Orc:1    | Reached XP level 16. HP: 125/125 MP: 14/16
 19293 | Orc:1    | Received a gift from Trog
 19367 | Orc:1    | Found a flagged portal.
 19377 | Bailey   | Entered a bailey
 19683 | Bailey   | Reached skill level 26 in Polearms
 19687 | Bailey   | Reached ****** piety under Trog
 19769 | Orc:1    | Received a gift from Trog
 19891 | Orc:2    | Found a dark tunnel.
 19896 | Volcano  | Entered a volcano
 20071 | Volcano  | Identified a scroll of acquirement
 20072 | Volcano  | Got a scorched steel ring
 20074 | Volcano  | Identified the ring "Afaaqoeck" {rN+ MP+9 SInv} (You acquired it in a volcano)
 20076 | Volcano  | Got scorched fire dragon scales
 20087 | Volcano  | Identified the cursed +1 fire dragon scales of Neruq {*Slow rF++ rC- Regen+ Int+7} (You found it in a volcano)
 20162 | Volcano  | Reached XP level 17. HP: 131/131 MP: 17/17
 20163 | Volcano  | Reached XP level 18. HP: 138/138 MP: 18/18
 21046 | Orc:2    | Found a staircase to the Elven Halls.
 21069 | Orc:2    | Reached skill level 10 in Throwing
 21087 | Orc:2    | Received a gift from Trog
 21106 | Orc:2    | Found Curghyir's Armour Boutique.
 21106 | Orc:2    | Found Zinah's Jewellery Shop.
 21106 | Orc:2    | Found Wybal's Food Shop.
 21155 | Orc:2    | Found Pymn's Antique Armour Boutique.
 21176 | Orc:2    | Bought a scorched ring mail for 288 gold pieces
 21186 | Orc:2    | Identified the +3 ring mail "Imomuman" {Str+3} (You bought it in a shop on level 2 of the Orcish Mines)
 21491 | Shoals:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Shoals
 21545 | Shoals:1 | Received a gift from Trog
 22303 | Shoals:2 | Found Ryemave's Armour Shop.
 22449 | Shoals:2 | Found Nevesing's Magic Scroll Shoppe.
 22488 | Shoals:2 | Bought a scroll of magic mapping for 70 gold pieces
 23040 | Shoals:3 | Received a gift from Trog
 23085 | Shoals:3 | Noticed Aizul
 23108 | Shoals:3 | Killed Aizul
 23782 | Shoals:3 | Received a gift from Trog
 24008 | Shoals:3 | Reached skill level 27 in Polearms
 24652 | Shoals:2 | Received a gift from Trog
 25118 | Shoals:3 | Reached XP level 19. HP: 125/151 MP: 20/20
 25699 | Shoals:4 | Entered Level 4 of the Shoals
 25699 | Shoals:4 | Noticed Nikola
 25712 | Shoals:4 | Killed Nikola
 26068 | Shoals:4 | Reached skill level 15 in Fighting
 26158 | Shoals:4 | Received a gift from Trog
 26307 | Shoals:4 | Noticed Kirke
 26323 | Shoals:4 | Killed Kirke
 26535 | Shoals:4 | Noticed Ilsuiw
 26915 | Shoals:4 | Got a barnacled rune of Zot
 27207 | Spider:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Spider Nest

Skill      XL: |  1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 |
---------------+----------------------------------------------------------+-----
Polearms       |     5     7     9 11 14 15    17 19 21 23 25 26    27    | 27.0
Fighting       |     4     5           6        8 11                13 15 | 15.8
Dodging        |                       3  5 10    11 14 15 16             | 16.5
Throwing       |                          4  8              9       10 11 | 11.9
Evocations     |                                1                       3 |  3.7
Armour         |                                               4  6       |  6.1
Unarmed Combat |                                                          |  0.9
Spellcasting   |                                                          |  0.8

Action                   |  1- 3 |  4- 6 |  7- 9 | 10-12 | 13-15 | 16-18 | 19-21 || total
-------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------++-------
Melee: Spear             |   109 |    41 |       |       |       |       |       ||   150
       Scythe            |       |     8 |       |       |       |       |       ||     8
       Trident           |       |    21 |   404 |   207 |       |       |       ||   632
       Halberd           |       |       |       |   439 |  1262 |   834 |   388 ||  2923
       Bardiche          |       |       |       |    14 |       |    20 |       ||    34
       Tailslap          |       |       |       |     8 |    21 |    30 |    13 ||    72
Throw: Javelin           |       |       |       |    30 |       |     8 |       ||    38
Invok: Berserk           |       |     2 |     1 |     6 |    14 |     5 |     2 ||    30
       Trog's Hand       |       |     1 |       |     3 |     8 |     8 |     1 ||    21
       Burn Spellbooks   |       |       |     2 |     3 |     5 |     3 |     1 ||    14
       Brothers in Arms  |       |       |       |       |     4 |     1 |     3 ||     8
Evoke: Wand              |       |       |       |     1 |     2 |       |       ||     3
  Use: Scroll            |       |       |     7 |    12 |    23 |     9 |     7 ||    58
       Potion            |       |       |       |       |    13 |     3 |     2 ||    18
 Stab: Sleeping          |     1 |       |     2 |     3 |     2 |       |       ||     8
       Distracted        |       |       |     1 |       |       |       |       ||     1
       Petrified         |       |       |       |       |     4 |       |       ||     4
  Eat: Chunk             |     1 |     3 |    12 |    20 |    43 |    16 |     9 ||   104
       Royal jelly       |       |       |       |     2 |     2 |       |       ||     4
       Fruit             |       |       |       |       |       |    13 |     2 ||    15
Armor: Animal skin       |     3 |       |       |       |       |       |       ||     3
       Ring mail         |    16 |    30 |    51 |       |       |       |       ||    97
       Leather armour    |       |       |     9 |    48 |       |       |       ||    57
       Troll leather arm |       |       |       |   104 |   178 |    38 |       ||   320
       Skin              |       |       |       |       |   119 |       |       ||   119
       Fire dragon scale |       |       |       |       |       |    75 |    89 ||   164
Dodge: Dodged            |    46 |    46 |    82 |   464 |   787 |   579 |   283 ||  2287
Block: Other             |       |       |    21 |       |       |    15 |    81 ||   117
       Reflection        |       |       |     1 |       |       |     2 |     8 ||    11

Current Victories:
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3 Runes: GrEE^Ru, CeBe^Trog, SpEn^Gozag, KoAr^Dith, TeAE^Kiku, TrCK^Xom.
4 Runes: VSFi^Qaz.
5 Runes: DsGl^Oka, MiGl^Hep, GnWz^Sif.
9 Runes: DDAr^Makh.
15 Runes: HOFi^TSO->Zin, DEFE^Veh
For now...

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Post Monday, 27th November 2017, 02:46

Re: How good is Scythe of Curses?

That armor is not good. At *slow and only +1, it isn't strong enough to merit planning for a swap to jivya, your 7 base int is trash as a berserker and jivya will not improve it. *Slow can be really bad when it procs.

Use enchant a generic dragon scale armor over that, or a decent scale/chain/plate. Don't let yourself be to scared away from heavier armor by the dodge/armor attributes, you have plenty of strength. Merfolks get all aux slots as well, armor skill is still pretty strong for them.
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Post Monday, 27th November 2017, 15:35

Re: How good is Scythe of Curses?

Thanks for the advice all. I ditched the armor after spider for a +9 ring mail with rF+++ (no other good armor generated, and too few enchant scrolls to make a base scale/chain worth it with my current armor skill.)

I got the two S runes and started V, then got banished (while I had Trog's Hand active I might add). But, I felt really strong and was at level 20, so I decided to clear Abyss. Made it all the way to level 5, and fought around for 2000-odd turns with no rune or exits anywhere, and eventually was done in by a pack of wretched stars that multiplied like rabbits.

Should have used BiA more often. I rarely play troglodytes, so I'm not really used to that.

The only reason I was planning a Jivya swap was because I've heard she's a better deity for extended (and she'd clear off my bad muts from whatever OOFs showed up).
Current Victories:
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3 Runes: GrEE^Ru, CeBe^Trog, SpEn^Gozag, KoAr^Dith, TeAE^Kiku, TrCK^Xom.
4 Runes: VSFi^Qaz.
5 Runes: DsGl^Oka, MiGl^Hep, GnWz^Sif.
9 Runes: DDAr^Makh.
15 Runes: HOFi^TSO->Zin, DEFE^Veh
For now...

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Post Monday, 27th November 2017, 18:03

Re: How good is Scythe of Curses?

A +9 Ring Mail with rF+++ is really good.

Abyss 5 is really deadly. Endgame diesel characters are challenged by abyss 5.

RIP Run.

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