CiP : FoHu^Oka, how good is archery ?


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Post Monday, 6th November 2017, 09:55

CiP : FoHu^Oka, how good is archery ?

Currently working on a quite good FoHu, and pretty easily got 3 runes. Now want to go for more and I'm struggling with my equipment, not that I lack stuff, but rather that I don't know how to deal with it properly.

First question : how good is the archery brand for gloves ? Better than those ?
  Code:
 A - the +2 pair of gloves of the Pits of Slime {rPois rN+ Dex+4 Stlth+}

Second question : is my plate armour a no-brainer ? I can get a pearl DA to +5...
Third question : how valuable is +Regen for my shield ? I have a rC+ one that could help me getting one pip of every resist...

  Code:
 Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.20.1-1-g8b1a95d (webtiles) character file.

mopl the Sniper (Formicid Hunter)                  Turns: 62537, Time: 03:42:27

Health: 217/217    AC: 39    Str: 30    XL:     27
Magic:  44/44      EV: 21    Int: 14    God:    Okawaru [******]
Gold:   2942       SH: 14    Dex: 20    Spells: 24/42 levels left

rFire    . . .     SeeInvis +   a - +7 triple crossbow (velocity)
rCold    + . .     Gourm    .   G - +0 shield "Jainos" {Regen+ Str+3}
rNeg     . . .     Faith    +   m - +10 plate armour of Weirdness {rPois rCorr Dex+3}
rPois    +         Spirit   .   (helmet unavailable)
rElec    +         Reflect  .   j - +2 cloak {MR+}
rCorr    +         Harm     .   c - +2 pair of gloves {archery}
MR       +++..                  e - +0 pair of boots of the Spheres {+Fly rPois rC+ MP+9}
Stlth    ..........             v - amulet of faith {!P}
Regen    0.9/turn               z - +4 ring of evasion
MPRegen  0.3/turn               M - ring "Yfuzxefy" {rElec Str+6 SInv}

@: no status effects
A: permanent stasis, dig shafts and tunnels, four strong arms, antennae 3,
hooves 1, molten scales 1, screaming 1
}: 3/15 runes: decaying, slimy, gossamer
a: Dig, Shaft Self, Heroism, Finesse, Renounce Religion, Evoke Flight


You are on level 1 of the Lair of Beasts.
You worship Okawaru.
Okawaru is exalted by your worship.
You are not hungry.

You have visited 10 branches of the dungeon, and seen 49 of its levels.
You have also visited: Labyrinth and Ice Cave.

You have collected 6230 gold pieces.
You have spent 3288 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Hand Weapons
 a - a +7 triple crossbow of velocity (weapon)
Missiles
 d - 1799 bolts (quivered)
 R - 4 throwing nets
Armour
 c - a +2 pair of gloves of archery (worn)
 e - the +0 pair of boots of the Spheres (worn) {+Fly rPois rC+ MP+9}
   (You bought it in a shop on level 3 of the Depths)   
   
   It protects you from cold.
   It protects you from poison.
   It affects your magic capacity (+9).
   It lets you fly.
 j - a +2 cloak of magic resistance (worn)
 m - the +10 plate armour of Weirdness (worn) {rPois rCorr Dex+3}
   (You found it on level 3 of the Elven Halls)   
   
   It affects your dexterity (+3).
   It protects you from poison.
   It protects you from acid and corrosion.
 A - the +2 pair of gloves of the Pits of Slime {rPois rN+ Dex+4 Stlth+}
   (Okawaru gifted it to you on level 14 of the Dungeon)   
   
   It affects your dexterity (+4).
   It protects you from poison.
   It protects you from negative energy.
   It makes you more stealthy.
 E - the +0 pair of boots "Mupumm" {MR+ MP-9 Int+2}
   (You found it on level 3 of the Elven Halls)   
   
   It affects your intelligence (+2).
   It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments.
   It affects your magic capacity (-9).
 G - the +0 shield "Jainos" (worn) {Regen+ Str+3}
   (Okawaru gifted it to you on level 6 of the Lair of Beasts)   
   
   It affects your strength (+3).
   It increases your rate of regeneration.
 N - pearl dragon scales
Jewellery
 i - an uncursed ring of protection from fire
 v - an amulet of faith (around neck) {!P}
 z - a +4 ring of evasion (left hand)
 M - the ring "Yfuzxefy" (right hand) {rElec Str+6 SInv}
   (You took it off an orc on level 6 of the Dungeon)   
   
   [ring of see invisible]
   
   It affects your strength (+6).
   It insulates you from electricity.
   It lets you see invisible.
 S - the ring "Uma Keck" {Wiz Dex+2 Slay+3 SInv}
   (You took it off a deep elf death mage on level 3 of the Elven Halls)   
   
   [ring of wizardry]
   
   It improves your spell success rate.
   It affects your dexterity (+2).
   It affects your accuracy and damage with ranged weapons and melee attacks
   (+3).
   It lets you see invisible.
Wands
 k - a wand of acid (?/15)
 l - a wand of clouds (3/9)
 p - a wand of paralysis (?/24)
 D - a wand of scattershot (4/9)
 H - a wand of iceblast (?/15)
 I - a wand of clouds (5/9)
 J - a wand of polymorph (?/24)
 L - a wand of scattershot (9/9)
 P - a wand of confusion (?/48)
 W - a wand of clouds (8/9)
Scrolls
 b - a scroll of vulnerability
 g - 6 scrolls of fear
 n - 8 scrolls of magic mapping
 r - 14 scrolls of fog
 w - 16 scrolls of remove curse
 x - 2 scrolls of silence {!r}
Potions
 o - 4 potions of ambrosia
 s - 13 potions of might
 t - 11 potions of agility
 u - a potion of invisibility
 B - 19 potions of curing
 C - 7 potions of lignification {!q}
 F - 9 potions of heal wounds
 K - a potion of flight
 T - a potion of magic
 U - 2 potions of cancellation
 Z - 7 potions of resistance
Miscellaneous
 h - a fan of gales
 q - a lightning rod (4/4)
 y - 3 sacks of spiders
 O - 5 boxes of beasts
 Q - a lamp of fire
 V - a phial of floods
 Y - a phantom mirror
Comestibles
 f - 30 bread rations


   Skills:
 + Level 18.0 Fighting
 * Level 25.7 Crossbows
 + Level 18.2 Armour
 + Level 12.4 Dodging
 - Level 1.2 Stealth
 + Level 12.2 Shields
 - Level 8.0 Spellcasting
 - Level 14.0 Hexes
 - Level 7.0 Necromancy
 - Level 10.0 Translocations
 + Level 14.7 Invocations
 + Level 10.7 Evocations


You have 24 spell levels left.
You know the following spells:

 Your Spells              Type           Power        Failure   Level  Hunger
a - Apportation           Tloc           ####..       1%          1    None
c - Corpse Rot            Necr           N/A          4%          2    None
p - Portal Projectile     Hex/Tloc       #####.       1%          3    ##.....
x - Animate Skeleton      Necr           N/A          3%          1    None
D - Deflect Missiles      Chrm/Air       #.........   100%        6    #######
S - Silence               Hex/Air        ####......   65%         5    #####..


Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (15/15)            Temple (1/1) D:5            Lair (6/6) D:11
  Swamp (4/4) Lair:3       Spider (4/4) Lair:4        Slime (5/5) Lair:6
    Orc (2/2) D:11            Elf (3/3) Orc:2        Vaults (4/5) D:14
  Crypt (0/3) Vaults:3     Depths (5/5) D:15            Zot (0/5) Depths:5

Altars:
Ashenzari
Cheibriados
Elyvilon
Fedhas
Gozag
Makhleb
Nemelex Xobeh
Okawaru
Qazlal
Trog
Uskayaw
Vehumet
Xom
Yredelemnul
Zin
The Shining One
Beogh
Jiyva

Shops:
D:5 *   D:8 }   Orc:1 *   Orc:2 [*(:   Elf:1 *[%(!   Elf:3 !   Vaults:1 (
Vaults:2 =   Vaults:4 *   Depths:3 [}   Depths:4 %

Portals:
Hell: Depths:1 Depths:2 Depths:3 Depths:4 Depths:5
Abyss: Depths:4 Depths:5
Pandemonium: Depths:3 Depths:5
Ziggurat: Depths:1

Annotations:
Elf:2 3 runed doors


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You cannot be hasted, slowed, berserked, paralysed or teleported.
You can dig through walls and to a lower floor.
Your four strong arms can wield two-handed weapons with a shield.
You have a pair of large antennae on your head. (SInv)
You have large cloven feet.
You are partially covered in molten scales. (AC +2)
You occasionally shout uncontrollably at your foes.


Message History

Search for what [Enter for "rf", or ? for help]? rC
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Search for what [Enter for "rC+", or ? for help]? rN+
There is a staircase back to the Dungeon here.
You see here the amulet "Togicky" {Reflect rElec Int+2 SH+3}.
Items here: !!!! """ %%% ((( ) /////////////// ::: = ???? [[ }
Things that are here:
a +2 pair of boots of flying
the +2 pair of gloves of the Pits of Slime {rPois rN+ Dex+4 Stlth+}
a +2 plate armour of fire resistance
A - the +2 pair of gloves of the Pits of Slime {rPois rN+ Dex+4 Stlth+}
You see here pearl dragon scales.
Drop what? 51/52 slots (_ for help) (? for menu, Esc to quit)
You drop an uncursed ring of protection from cold.
You see here pearl dragon scales.
N - pearl dragon scales

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There are no monsters in sight!
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Post Monday, 6th November 2017, 10:52

Re: CiP : FoHu^Oka, how good is archery ?

Plate is better than +5 PDA. That changes if you get the PDA even higher, though.

Regeneration is a great artifact ego. It is however NOT good enough to have you forsake the use of your lvl25 crossbow skill. lvl 25 skills cost serious amounts of You are going to have wasted either shield training or crossbow training; I suggest you make it shield training.

I'd wear gloves of archery over those artifact gloves unless you dont have rPoison and are in swamp/zot - poison clouds are super annoying.
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Post Monday, 6th November 2017, 11:04

Re: CiP : FoHu^Oka, how good is archery ?

le_nerd wrote:Regeneration is a great artifact ego. It is however NOT good enough to have you forsake the use of your lvl25 crossbow skill. lvl 25 skills cost serious amounts of You are going to have wasted either shield training or crossbow training; I suggest you make it shield training.
I'm a Fo so I do use both !

Ty anyway :D
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Post Monday, 6th November 2017, 11:27

Re: CiP : FoHu^Oka, how good is archery ?

You already can easily have all resists, just swap from ring of +4 EV to rF+.
PDA and regen will be very useful in extended which is full of torments.
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Post Monday, 6th November 2017, 11:56

Re: CiP : FoHu^Oka, how good is archery ?

About archery: they are +4 slay to missiles.

There aren't other bonuses in the game provided by equipment that are better than +4 slay. Doubly so for missiles as you get usually get more damage before an enemy can retaliate.

Those randart gloves are good but nothing close to +4 slay.
screw it I hate this character I'm gonna go melee Gastronok

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Post Monday, 6th November 2017, 12:17

Re: CiP : FoHu^Oka, how good is archery ?

Thanks for both answers ! Pan, I'm incoming !
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