CIP: DgIE with summons- third rune?


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Post Wednesday, 1st November 2017, 15:20

CIP: DgIE with summons- third rune?

So I've got Malign Gateway and Summon Hydra very castable, with Mana Vipers for casters. I figure that should last me through the end of the game, unless I *really* want to use Dragon's Call. What I need to know, is where I should go for my last rune- V:5, Abyss, or Slime. All three have their upsides and downsides. My problem is that I don't really have any combat power outside of my summons, so if I get abjured/run out of MP I don't really have many good options (especially because I don't have high enough Evo skill to count on Crystal Ball or Staff of Energy to constantly keep my MP high).

I've cleared D, L, O, S, N, and V:1-4 and I still need to hit U (+possibly C since I have rN+++) before I actually decide on a course of action, so I have some time left. I'm not strapped for turns either, I have Staff of Energy so my uberhunger spells don't tax me.
My other worry is the lack of MR. My summons usually get in the way of most attacks so I don't see rC/rF as too critical, but I don't want to end up confused or paralyzed.

Final question: Does Passage of Golubria work in Zot?

Pros/Cons in my mind:
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Vaults pros:
-Already have a course of action. Malign Gateway, Immolation, and then blink+golubria the heck outta there to one of the sides/corners.
-I know V:5 much better than Slime and Abyss.
Vaults cons:
-Dangerous casters that might abjuration me into a bad position.

Slime pros:
-Mostly stupid enemies
-TRJ shouldn't be hard with Malign Gateway and Lightning Spire to block paths.
Slime cons:
-Enemies come in packs, so I need a lot of summons to handle them.
-Eyeballs (does Malmutate check MR?)

Abyss pros:
-Easier than the other two options as far as enemy content, barring RNG.
Abyss cons:
-Not enough time to regain MP in between fights. Not sure about this one. I have regenMP on my amulet. This might also be dependent on RNG.


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 Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.20.1 (tiles) character file.

Qatra the Convoker (Demigod Ice Elementalist)      Turns: 89486, Time: 06:24:31

Health: 159/159    AC: 20    Str: 11    XL:     19   Next: 86%
Magic:  57/57      EV: 16    Int: 33    God:   
Gold:   1620       SH:  9    Dex: 23    Spells: 1/41 levels left

rFire    + . .     SeeInvis +   G - staff of energy
rCold    + . .     Gourm    .   t - +3 buckler
rNeg     + + +     Faith    .   n - +3 salamander hide armour {+Rage rF++}
rPois    +         Spirit   .   s - +2 helmet {SInv}
rElec    +         Reflect  .   e - +2 cloak
rCorr    .         Harm     .   F - +2 pair of gloves of Athroej {rElec rPois rN+ Dex+3}
MR       +....                  w - +2 pair of boots {run}
Stlth    +++.......             y - amulet of Zyoh {RegenMP rN+ SInv}
Regen    0.4/turn               r - ring "Dituydoa" {Ice MP+9 Dex+4}
MPRegen  0.6/turn               O - ring "Xemop" {rN++ MP+9}

@: quick
A: clever 1, high mp 1, sense surroundings 1
}: 2/15 runes: decaying, gossamer
a: Evoke Berserk Rage


You are on level 2 of the Orcish Mines.
You are not hungry.

You have visited 9 branches of the dungeon, and seen 40 of its levels.
You have visited the Abyss 1 time.
You have also visited: Labyrinth, Volcano and Desolation.

You have collected 4499 gold pieces.
You have spent 2879 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Hand Weapons
 B - the +7 dagger of Uskayaw's Envy {drain, rN+ MR+ Int+4}
   (You found it in the Desolation of Salt)   
   
   A truly terrible weapon, it drains the life of those it strikes.
   
   It affects your intelligence (+4).
   It protects you from negative energy.
   It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments.
 L - a +9 short sword of electrocution
Armour
 e - a +2 cloak (worn)
 n - the +3 salamander hide armour (worn) {+Rage rF++}
   (You bought it in a shop on level 11 of the Dungeon)   
   
   It greatly protects you from fire.
   It lets you go berserk.
 s - a +2 helmet of see invisible (worn)
 t - a +3 buckler (worn)
 w - a +2 pair of boots of running (worn)
 F - the +2 pair of gloves of Athroej (worn) {rElec rPois rN+ Dex+3}
   (You found it on level 1 of the Elven Halls)   
   
   It affects your dexterity (+3).
   It insulates you from electricity.
   It protects you from poison.
   It protects you from negative energy.
Magical Staves
 G - an uncursed staff of energy (weapon)
Jewellery
 l - the ring "Xynohups" {rElec MP+9}
   (You found it in the Desolation of Salt)   
   
   [ring of magical power]
   
   It insulates you from electricity.
   It affects your magic capacity (+9).
 m - an uncursed ring of resist corrosion
 r - the ring "Dituydoa" (left hand) {Ice MP+9 Dex+4}
   (You found it in the Desolation of Salt)   
   
   [ring of ice]
   
   It enhances your ice magic.
   It affects your dexterity (+4).
   It makes you vulnerable to fire.
   It protects you from cold.
   It affects your magic capacity (+9).
 y - the amulet of Zyoh (around neck) {RegenMP rN+ SInv}
   (You found it in the Desolation of Salt)   
   
   [amulet of magic regeneration]
   
   It increases your magic regeneration.
   It protects you from negative energy.
   It lets you see invisible.
 E - an uncursed ring of protection from fire
 H - an uncursed ring of protection from magic
 O - the ring "Xemop" (right hand) {rN++ MP+9}
   (You found it in the Desolation of Salt)   
   
   [ring of magical power]
   
   It greatly protects you from negative energy.
   It affects your magic capacity (+9).
 W - the amulet of Jokunioh {Reflect +Fly SH+6}
   (You found it in the Desolation of Salt)   
   
   [amulet of reflection]
   
   It shields you and reflects attacks.
   It lets you fly.
   It affects your SH (+6).
Wands
 b - a wand of digging (20/24)
 h - a wand of scattershot (5/9)
 z - a wand of acid (15/15)
 R - a wand of clouds (8/9)
Scrolls
 i - 2 scrolls of magic mapping
 u - 5 scrolls of fog
 x - 2 scrolls of immolation
 D - a scroll of amnesia
 I - 14 scrolls of remove curse
 J - 5 scrolls of teleportation
 N - a scroll of blinking
Potions
 a - a potion of heal wounds
 d - 10 potions of curing
 f - 4 potions of resistance
 k - 6 potions of berserk rage
 p - 6 potions of brilliance
 q - 7 potions of might
 v - 4 potions of agility
 K - 2 potions of cancellation
 M - a potion of mutation
 P - 5 potions of haste
 T - 4 potions of ambrosia
 Z - a potion of invisibility
Books
 g - a book of the Dragon   
   
    Spells                             Type                      Level
    a - Flame Tongue                 Conjuration/Fire              1
    b - Cause Fear                   Hexes                         4
    c - Bolt of Fire                 Conjuration/Fire              6
    d - Dragon Form                  Transmutation                 7
    e - Dragon's Call                Summoning                     9
Miscellaneous
 o - a crystal ball of energy
 A - a lamp of fire
 Q - a fan of gales
 U - a sack of spiders
 V - a phantom mirror
 X - 4 boxes of beasts
 Y - a lightning rod (4/4)
Comestibles
 c - 5 bread rations
 j - 20 meat rations


   Skills:
 * Level 11.6 Fighting
 - Level 6.0 Short Blades
 - Level 5.2 Staves
 - Level 7.0 Armour
 - Level 6.0 Dodging
 - Level 3.3 Stealth
 - Level 5.3 Shields
 - Level 11.5 Spellcasting
   Level 9.4 Conjurations
 - Level 8.0 Charms
 - Level 17.2 Summonings
 - Level 13.0 Translocations
 - Level 9.0 Ice Magic
 - Level 7.0 Air Magic
 * Level 5.2 Evocations


You have one spell level left.
You know the following spells:

 Your Spells              Type           Power        Failure   Level  Hunger
a - Summon Butterflies    Summ           #######.     0%          1    None
b - Summon Mana Viper     Hex/Summ       ######..     2%          5    None
c - Ozocubu's Armour      Chrm/Ice       #######.     1%          3    None
d - Summon Ice Beast      Ice/Summ       ########     1%          4    None
e - Blink                 Tloc           N/A          1%          2    None
f - Malign Gateway        Summ/Tloc      #######...   5%          7    None
g - Summon Hydra          Summ           #######...   2%          7    None
h - Apportation           Tloc           ######       0%          1    None
i - Shroud of Golubria    Chrm/Tloc      ######....   1%          2    None
j - Summon Lightning Spi  Summ/Air       #######.     1%          4    None
k - Passage of Golubria   Tloc           N/A          1%          4    None


Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (15/15)              Lair (6/6) D:11          Swamp (4/4) Lair:3
 Spider (4/4) Lair:4        Slime (0/5) Lair:5          Orc (2/2) D:11
    Elf (3/3) Orc:2        Vaults (4/5) D:13          Crypt (1/3) Vaults:3
 Depths (1/5) D:15       
Temple: D:4-7       

Shops:
D:4 ?   D:9 [!}*   D:10 *:(:   D:11 [   D:12 :   D:13 (   D:14 ?   Orc:1 ?   Orc:2 %}%=   Vaults:3 ?
Vaults:4 (*}[=

Annotations:
D:5 Grinder; Seiwo's ghost, amateur DrAK; Sigmund
D:6 Slim's ghost, novice MiTm
Lair:5 exclusion: oklob plant
Spider:3 Mara
Elf:2 1 runed door
Vaults:3 Bai Suzhen


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You have an increased reservoir of magic. (+10% MP)
Your mind is acute. (Int +2)
You passively map a small area around you.


Message History

You see here a tomahawk.
You see here a falchion.
Things that are here:
a robe; a dagger of venom
Things that are here:
a robe; a dagger
Things that are here:
a ring mail; a mace
There is an open door here.
There is an open door here.
Things that are here:
a war axe of venom; a robe; a dagger
Things that are here:
a chain mail; a long sword
Things that are here:
a chain mail; a flail
There is an open door here.
There is an entrance to Xeste's Gadget Shoppe here.
o - a crystal ball of energy
Thank you for shopping at Xeste's Gadget Shoppe!

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There are no monsters in sight!

Vanquished Creatures
  Jorgrun (Swamp:4)
  A thorn hunter (Swamp:4)
  A ghost moth (Spider:3)
  A deep elf elementalist (Elf:1)
  An ironheart preserver (Vaults:4)
  An entropy weaver (Spider:2)
  A stone giant (Vaults:2)
  3 deep elf demonologists
  A crystal guardian (Desolation)
  A minotaur (Lab)
  A great orb of eyes (Vaults:2)
  2 peacekeepers (Desolation)
  8 hydras
  A ghost crab (Swamp:4)
  A catoblepas (D:14)
  2 centaur warriors
  6 alligators
  7 two-headed ogres
  5 dancing weapons
  3 orc high priests (Orc:2)
  2 deep elf knights
  9 unseen horrors
  A spriggan druid (Swamp:4)
  3 swamp dragons
  A shambling mangrove (Swamp:3)
  5 harpies (Vaults:2)
  10 wolf spiders
  2 orc knights (Orc:2)
  3 orc sorcerers (Orc:2)
  20 deep elf magi
  3 orb spiders
  A cyclops (D:14)
  A fire giant zombie (Vaults:2)
  An ugly thing (D:11)
  A tengu skeleton (Vaults:1)
  2 manticores
  A guardian serpent (shapeshifter) (D:13)
  5 black mambas
  3 elephants
  2 centaur skeletons (D:14)
  22 spiny frogs
  2 komodo dragons
  4 demonic crawlers
  An efreet (Lair:1)
  5 trolls
  9 jumping spiders
  4 tyrant leeches
  12 saltlings (Desolation)
  9 slime creatures
  17 bog bodies
  11 hornets
  2 blink frogs (Lair:6)
  7 hippogriffs
  An air elemental (D:12)
  15 redbacks
  3 water elementals
  A hog (shapeshifter) (D:15)
  10 tarantellas
  28 yaks
  5 spriggans
  3 wyverns
  9 shadows
  5 wraiths
  Eustachio (D:4)
  14 vampire mosquitoes
  7 insubstantial wisps
  3 wargs
  19 swamp worms
  11 water moccasins
  11 porcupines
  23 orc warriors
  6 ice beasts
  11 swamp drakes
  5 sky beasts
  A phantom (D:7)
  8 ogres
  10 centaurs
  4 wolves
  6 crocodiles
  2 big kobolds
  21 bullfrogs
  2 wyvern zombies
  4 earth elementals
  A water moccasin zombie (D:8)
  A wyvern skeleton (D:14)
  6 scorpions
  3 killer bees (D:10)
  2 howler monkeys
  A wight (D:8)
  4 centaur zombies
  3 crimson imps
  A quasit (D:11)
  8 hounds
  4 jellies
  A bullfrog zombie (D:10)
  18 orc priests
  16 orc wizards
  Jessica (D:3)
  10 worker ants
  2 iguanas
  A hound zombie (D:7)
  2 hound skeletons
  12 adders
  4 gnolls (D:5)
  4 shadow imps
  6 oozes
  2 adder skeletons (D:4)
  3 worms (Swamp:2)
  4 dart slugs
  9 leopard geckos
  71 orcs
  9 giant cockroaches
  3 goblins
  7 hobgoblins
  16 jackals
  13 kobolds
  10 quokkas
  A ball python (D:3)
  5 bats
  3 frilled lizards
  A leopard gecko skeleton (D:4)
  A quokka skeleton (D:4)
  5 rats
752 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (collateral kills)
  Frederick (Vaults:3)
  the Lernaean hydra (Swamp:4)
  The ghost of Rehigok the Honourless, an adept HOFi of the Shining One (Vaults:3)
  4 deep elf blademasters (Elf:3)
  3 deep elf master archers (Elf:3)
  3 sphinxes
  Gastronok (Lair:3)
  4 thorn hunters
  Roxanne (Swamp:4)
  A fire giant (Vaults:4)
  2 imperial myrmidons (Desolation)
  8 deep elf sorcerers
  3 deep elf elementalists (Elf:3)
  17 vault wardens
  2 frost giants
  Aizul (Vaults:2)
  An orc warlord (Orc:2)
  2 ghost moths (Spider:4)
  A ghoul (Vaults:3)
  5 emperor scorpions (Spider:4)
  A stone giant (Vaults:4)
  A very ugly thing (Vaults:4)
  5 entropy weavers
  22 ironheart preservers
  2 deep elf demonologists (Elf:3)
  4 spark wasps
  9 deep elf annihilators (Elf:3)
  6 deep elf death magi
  A halazid warlock (Desolation)
  4 crystal guardians (Desolation)
  14 yaktaur captains
  4 small abominations
  4 ragged hierophants (Desolation)
  4 ettins
  3 fire dragons
  Josephine (Orc:2)
  2 deep elf high priests
  9 servants of whispers (Desolation)
  3 peacekeepers (Desolation)
  2 great orbs of eyes
  An ice dragon (shapeshifter) (Vaults:1)
  5 ice dragons
  2 ghost crabs
  12 vault guards
  23 hydras
  3 centaur warriors
  31 two-headed ogres
  2 alligators
  10 dancing weapons
  10 ogre magi
  A thrashing horror (Abyss:2)
  4 deep troll earth magi
  2 death knights
  2 deep troll shamans
  A tengu warrior (D:14)
  A vampire mage (Vaults:3)
  25 deep elf knights
  An orc high priest (Orc:2)
  Nergalle (Lair:1)
  3 wizards
  A flayed ghost (Vaults:1)
  2 unseen horrors
  2 skeletal warriors
  7 swamp dragons
  19 deep elf archers
  A swamp dragon (shapeshifter) (Vaults:4)
  13 deep trolls
  2 glowing orange brains (Vaults:4)
  12 ironbrand convokers
  2 necromancers
  8 orc sorcerers
  2 shambling mangroves
  15 orc knights
  42 ugly things
  A mana viper (shapeshifter) (Vaults:2)
  59 deep elf magi
  29 wolf spiders
  15 orb spiders
  8 cyclopes
  A frost giant zombie (Vaults:2)
  A salamander (shapeshifter) (Vaults:3)
  A wolf spider (shapeshifter) (Vaults:2)
  2 manticores
  36 slime creatures
  8 elephants
  A frost giant skeleton (Vaults:1)
  2 moths of wrath
  16 vault sentinels
  Joseph (D:9)
  2 black mambas (Lair:3)
  3 guardian serpents (Desolation)
  18 spiny frogs
  A molten gargoyle (Desolation)
  7 komodo dragons
  A rime drake (Lair:5)
  5 freezing wraiths
  51 yaktaurs
  10 demonic crawlers
  21 jumping spiders
  A meliai (shapeshifter) (Vaults:2)
  8 tyrant leeches
  5 trolls
  A wind drake (shapeshifter) (Vaults:1)
  3 meliai (D:14)
  25 saltlings (Desolation)
  2 dream sheep (D:8)
  16 hornets
  3 bog bodies
  An ettin zombie (Vaults:2)
  10 blink frogs (Lair:6)
  4 air elementals
  A redback (shapeshifter) (Vaults:1)
  3 hippogriffs
  2 vampires (Vaults:3)
  2 frost giant simulacra
  A spriggan (Swamp:4)
  95 redbacks
  18 tarantellas
  4 flying skulls
  2 water elementals
  2 wraiths
  4 fire elementals
  A human (shapeshifter) (Vaults:4)
  40 yaks
  A golden eye (shapeshifter) (Elf:1)
  3 basilisks
  A neqoxec (Abyss:3)
  15 vampire mosquitoes
  4 swamp worms
  3 insubstantial wisps (Swamp:4)
  4 wargs
  A warg (shapeshifter) (Vaults:4)
  Edmund (D:6)
  A soldier ant (D:12)
  2 water moccasins (Lair:6)
  34 orc warriors
  9 swamp drakes
  An ice beast (shapeshifter) (Vaults:4)
  A sky beast (D:11)
  4 porcupines
  A black bear (D:11)
  A necrophage (D:12)
  2 phantoms
  33 ogres
  9 centaurs
  3 wolves
  8 crocodiles
  4 big kobolds
  2 earth elementals (Elf:3)
  8 bullfrogs
  2 human zombies
  A glowing shapeshifter simulacrum (Vaults:3)
  A human skeleton (Vaults:1)
  4 wights (D:8)
  4 electric eels
  2 howler monkeys (D:11)
  2 centaur zombies (D:9)
  A hound (D:11)
  13 orc priests
  2 centaur skeletons
  14 orc wizards
  5 hell rats (Lair:4)
  A shadow imp (D:12)
  An ooze (Lair:5)
  70 orcs
  A quokka (D:8)
  7 kobolds
  3 crawling corpses (Vaults:2)
  2 fungi
1277 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (others)
  29 eldritch tentacles
  A deep elf annihilator (Elf:3)
  A deep elf demonologist (Elf:3)
  An unseen horror (Vaults:1)
  A tarantella (Spider:4)
  A swamp worm (Swamp:2)
  3 centaurs
  Blork the orc (Elf:1)
  An orc (D:13)
  6 bushes
  24 fungi
  63 plants
132 creatures vanquished.

Grand Total: 2161 creatures vanquished

Notes
Turn   | Place    | Note
-------+----------+-------------------------------------------
     0 | D:1      | Qatra the Demigod Ice Elementalist began the quest for the Orb.
     0 | D:1      | Reached XP level 1. HP: 14/14 MP: 5/5
   353 | D:1      | Reached XP level 2. HP: 14/20 MP: 5/7
   416 | D:1      | Learned a level 2 spell: Throw Frost
  1122 | D:2      | Reached XP level 3. HP: 26/26 MP: 1/8
  1559 | D:2      | Learned a level 3 spell: Ozocubu's Armour
  1744 | D:2      | Reached skill level 1 in Shields
  1835 | D:3      | Reached XP level 4. HP: 31/33 MP: 5/9
  2397 | D:3      | Noticed Jessica
  2419 | D:3      | Killed Jessica
  2636 | D:3      | Reached XP level 5. HP: 37/38 MP: 10/10
  2653 | D:4      | Noticed Grinder
  2689 | D:4      | Noticed Eustachio
  3065 | D:5      | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
  3590 | D:4      | Reached XP level 6. HP: 19/45 MP: 2/12
  3784 | D:4      | Killed Eustachio
  3784 | D:4      | Reached skill level 5 in Shields
  3862 | D:5      | Noticed Seiwo's ghost (amateur DrAK)
  3874 | D:5      | Noticed Sigmund
  4170 | D:5      | Paralysed by Grinder for 3 turns
  4420 | D:4      | Found Dirphugyu's Magic Scroll Emporium.
  4424 | D:4      | Bought a scroll of teleportation for 33 gold pieces
  4424 | D:4      | Bought a scroll of enchant weapon for 82 gold pieces
  4424 | D:4      | Bought a scroll of noise for 11 gold pieces
  4993 | D:4      | Reached XP level 7. HP: 49/50 MP: 2/13
  5082 | D:4      | Learned a level 4 spell: Summon Ice Beast
  5482 | D:6      | Reached skill level 5 in Ice Magic
  5548 | D:6      | Noticed Edmund
  5576 | D:6      | Killed Edmund
  5824 | D:6      | Learned a level 2 spell: Blink
  5896 | D:6      | Noticed Slim's ghost (novice MiTm)
  6206 | D:7      | Reached XP level 8. HP: 43/58 MP: 7/15
  6787 | D:7      | Found a burning altar of Makhleb.
  6787 | D:7      | Noticed a balrug
  6791 | D:7      | Noticed a smoke demon
  6933 | D:8      | Noticed a two-headed ogre
  6940 | D:8      | Killed a two-headed ogre
  6940 | D:8      | Reached skill level 1 in Fighting
  6940 | D:8      | Reached skill level 1 in Summonings
  7061 | D:8      | Found a burning altar of Makhleb.
  7061 | D:8      | Noticed a deep elf mage
  7071 | D:8      | Killed a deep elf mage
  7413 | D:8      | Reached skill level 2 in Summonings
  7807 | D:8      | Noticed a two-headed ogre
  7916 | D:8      | Killed a two-headed ogre
  7916 | D:8      | Reached skill level 4 in Summonings
  7916 | D:8      | Reached XP level 9. HP: 68/68 MP: 0/16
  8192 | D:8      | Reached skill level 5 in Summonings
  8407 | D:8      | Noticed a manticore
  8638 | D:8      | Killed a manticore
  8638 | D:8      | Reached skill level 6 in Summonings
  8686 | D:8      | Reached skill level 1 in Conjurations
  8704 | D:8      | Reached skill level 1 in Translocations
  8832 | D:8      | Noticed a three-headed hydra
  8837 | D:8      | Killed a three-headed hydra
  9113 | D:9      | Reached XP level 10. HP: 38/77 MP: 11/18
  9309 | D:9      | Noticed Joseph
  9444 | D:9      | Found Qepoavot's Gadget Boutique.
  9797 | D:9      | Found Zuus's General Store.
  9802 | D:9      | Found a blossoming altar of Fedhas.
  9804 | D:9      | Bought a potion of magic for 120 gold pieces
 10280 | D:9      | Reached skill level 5 in Spellcasting
 10433 | D:9      | Killed Joseph
 10436 | D:9      | Found Jaseff's Distillery.
 10486 | D:9      | Found Nonin's Armour Shop.
 10642 | D:9      | Noticed a two-headed ogre
 10651 | D:9      | Killed a two-headed ogre
 10662 | D:9      | Learned a level 4 spell: Throw Icicle
 10666 | D:9      | Learned a level 3 spell: Conjure Flame
 10668 | D:9      | Learned a level 1 spell: Apportation
 10869 | D:10     | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon
 10869 | D:10     | Found Amnon's General Store.
 10878 | D:10     | Bought a potion of degeneration for 12 gold pieces
 10966 | D:10     | Reached skill level 1 in Short Blades
 11420 | D:10     | Found Soqidol's Book Boutique.
 11456 | D:10     | Killed an unseen horror
 11456 | D:10     | Reached skill level 5 in Conjurations
 11835 | D:10     | Found Ibeliat's Weapon Emporium.
 11855 | D:10     | Found Nakk's Book Shoppe.
 12178 | D:11     | Noticed a purple ugly thing
 12200 | D:11     | Killed a purple ugly thing
 12594 | D:11     | Reached XP level 11. HP: 60/82 MP: 4/24
 12689 | D:11     | Found a staircase to the Lair.
 12760 | D:11     | Noticed a two-headed ogre
 12768 | D:11     | Killed a two-headed ogre
 13589 | D:11     | Reached skill level 5 in Short Blades
 13975 | D:11     | Found Moaraz's Armour Boutique.
 13984 | D:11     | Bought a +0 helmet of see invisible for 149 gold pieces
 14328 | D:11     | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh.
 14328 | D:11     | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines.
 14654 | Lair:1   | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts
 14759 | Lair:1   | Found a dark tunnel.
 14764 | Volcano  | Entered a volcano
 15148 | Lair:1   | Noticed Nergalle
 15165 | Lair:1   | Killed Nergalle
 15315 | Lair:1   | Learned a level 2 spell: Shroud of Golubria
 15583 | Lair:1   | Identified Sif Muna's Papyrus of Displacement and Cold
 17104 | Lair:2   | Learned a level 4 spell: Summon Lightning Spire
 17189 | Lair:3   | Reached skill level 1 in Air Magic
 17516 | Lair:3   | Noticed a four-headed hydra
 17530 | Lair:3   | Killed a four-headed hydra
 17545 | Lair:3   | Noticed Gastronok
 17583 | Lair:3   | Killed Gastronok
 17583 | Lair:3   | Reached XP level 12. HP: 89/89 MP: 12/28
 17845 | Lair:3   | Reached skill level 5 in Translocations
 18166 | Lair:3   | Found a staircase to the Swamp.
 19047 | Lair:4   | Found a hole to the Spider Nest.
 20249 | Lair:5   | Reached skill level 5 in Air Magic
 20452 | Lair:5   | Found a runed door.
 20453 | Lair:5   | Found a viscous altar of Jiyva.
 20457 | Lair:5   | Found a staircase to the Slime Pits.
 20519 | Lair:5   | Found a shimmering altar of Xom.
 20792 | Lair:5   | Noticed a six-headed hydra
 20807 | Lair:5   | Killed a six-headed hydra
 20970 | Lair:6   | Entered Level 6 of the Lair of Beasts
 21600 | Lair:6   | Reached skill level 10 in Spellcasting
 21921 | Lair:6   | Learned a level 4 spell: Passage of Golubria
 22410 | Lair:6   | Noticed a six-headed hydra
 22424 | Lair:6   | Killed a six-headed hydra
 22449 | Lair:6   | HP: 4/89 [tyrant leech (25)]
 23583 | Lair:6   | Reached XP level 13. HP: 85/94 MP: 8/31
 24975 | Lair:6   | Reached skill level 7 in Summonings
 25582 | Orc:1    | Entered Level 1 of the Orcish Mines
 25642 | Orc:1    | Found Idonuts's Magic Scroll Shoppe.
 25745 | D:11     | Bought the +3 salamander hide armour {+Rage rF++} for 585 gold pieces
 26064 | Orc:2    | Entered Level 2 of the Orcish Mines
 26256 | Orc:2    | Reached skill level 8 in Summonings
 26696 | Orc:2    | Noticed Josephine
 26706 | Orc:2    | Killed Josephine
 27019 | Orc:2    | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh.
 27021 | Orc:2    | Found Cayd's Food Emporium.
 27235 | Orc:2    | Reached skill level 1 in Armour
 27558 | Orc:2    | Reached skill level 1 in Charms
 27932 | Orc:2    | Found a staircase to the Elven Halls.
 28896 | Orc:2    | Noticed an orc warlord
 28940 | Orc:2    | Killed an orc warlord
 28940 | Orc:2    | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting
 29580 | Orc:2    | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh.
 29864 | Orc:2    | Found Puwiaw's Food Shop.
 29983 | Orc:2    | Found Jexeqas's Jewellery Boutique.
 30995 | Orc:2    | Found Xeste's Gadget Shoppe.
 31447 | Orc:2    | Bought an uncursed ring of poison resistance for 280 gold pieces
 31809 | Orc:1    | Bought a scroll of amnesia for 38 gold pieces
 31816 | Orc:1    | Learned a level 5 spell: Iskenderun's Battlesphere
 31926 | Swamp:1  | Entered Level 1 of the Swamp
 32094 | Swamp:1  | Reached skill level 5 in Charms
 33150 | Swamp:1  | Reached XP level 14. HP: 100/108 MP: 30/32
 34312 | D:12     | Found a labyrinth entrance.
 34335 | Lab      | Entered a labyrinth
 38286 | Lab      | Reached XP level 15. HP: 121/121 MP: 19/33
 38740 | D:12     | Found Plog's Book Shop.
 39215 | D:12     | Found a large runed door.
 39215 | D:12     | Found a large runed door.
 39774 | D:13     | Identified a scroll of acquirement
 39775 | D:13     | Got a twitching graven amulet
 39776 | D:13     | Identified the amulet "Zoutru" {Reflect Str+2 SH+4} (You acquired it on level 13 of the Dungeon)
 39889 | D:13     | Found Eduah's Weapon Emporium.
 39910 | D:13     | Got a flickering iron amulet
 39912 | D:13     | Identified the amulet of Yendor {Inacc rN+ Stlth+} (You found it on level 13 of the Dungeon)
 41404 | D:13     | Found a gate to the Vaults.
 43162 | D:14     | Reached skill level 1 in Evocations
 43607 | D:14     | Found Qengahuo's Magic Scroll Shop.
 43748 | D:15     | Entered Level 15 of the Dungeon
 43924 | D:15     | Learned a level 1 spell: Summon Butterflies
 44008 | D:15     | Learned a level 7 spell: Summon Hydra
 44263 | D:15     | Reached skill level 9 in Summonings
 44797 | D:15     | Gained mutation: Your body sometimes deteriorates upon taking damage. [potion of mutation]
 44797 | D:15     | Gained mutation: You are agile. (Dex +2) [potion of mutation]
 44797 | D:15     | Gained mutation: Your flesh is cold resistant. (rC+) [potion of mutation]
 44798 | D:15     | Lost mutation: You are agile. (Dex +2) [potion of mutation]
 44798 | D:15     | Lost mutation: Your body sometimes deteriorates upon taking damage. [potion of mutation]
 44798 | D:15     | Lost mutation: Your flesh is cold resistant. (rC+) [potion of mutation]
 44798 | D:15     | Gained mutation: Your mind is acute. (Int +2) [potion of mutation]
 44798 | D:15     | Gained mutation: You passively map a small area around you. [potion of mutation]
 44867 | D:15     | Found a staircase to the Depths.
 47257 | Swamp:4  | Entered Level 4 of the Swamp
 47381 | Swamp:2  | Noticed a thorn hunter
 47397 | Swamp:2  | Killed a thorn hunter
 47397 | Swamp:2  | Reached XP level 16. HP: 109/128 MP: 18/36
 47922 | Swamp:3  | Reached skill level 10 in Summonings
 49131 | Swamp:3  | Learned a level 5 spell: Summon Mana Viper
 50216 | Swamp:4  | Noticed Jorgrun
 50216 | Swamp:4  | HP: 6/128 [Jorgrun/icy blast (45)]
 50667 | Swamp:4  | Reached skill level 11 in Summonings
 50861 | Swamp:4  | Noticed Roxanne
 51280 | Swamp:4  | Killed Jorgrun
 51851 | Swamp:4  | Reached skill level 12 in Summonings
 52121 | Swamp:4  | Killed Roxanne
 52296 | Swamp:4  | Noticed the 27-headed Lernaean hydra
 52700 | Swamp:4  | Killed the 27-headed Lernaean hydra
 52730 | Swamp:4  | Got a decaying rune of Zot
 53365 | Vaults:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Vaults
 53864 | Spider:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Spider Nest
 54291 | Spider:1 | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging
 54319 | Spider:1 | Reached skill level 13 in Summonings
 54761 | Spider:1 | Identified a +0 pair of boots of running (You found it on level 1 of the Spider Nest)
 54774 | Spider:1 | You fall through a shaft!
 58079 | Spider:2 | Reached XP level 17. HP: 106/134 MP: 26/37
 58294 | Spider:2 | Reached skill level 14 in Summonings
 58560 | Spider:3 | Noticed Mara
 58569 | Spider:3 | Noticed Qatra's illusion
 58585 | Spider:4 | Entered Level 4 of the Spider Nest
 59978 | Orc:2    | Bought the ring of Laoreg {rElec rN+ Slay+3} for 884 gold pieces
 60041 | Elf:1    | Entered Level 1 of the Elven Halls
 60728 | Elf:1    | Got a pair of scorched gloves
 60739 | Elf:1    | Identified the +2 pair of gloves of Athroej {rElec rPois rN+ Dex+3} (You found it on level 1 of the Elven Halls)
 61542 | Elf:1    | Noticed Blork the orc
 61566 | Elf:1    | Killed Blork the orc
 61578 | Elf:1    | Found a deep blue altar of Sif Muna.
 61660 | Elf:1    | Got a faintly glowing hand axe
 61661 | Elf:1    | Identified the +3 hand axe of Abuse {elec, Str+4 Dex+4} (You found it on level 1 of the Elven Halls)
 61770 | Elf:1    | Reached skill level 15 in Summonings
 62094 | Elf:2    | Found a ruined gateway.
 62139 | Desolati | Entered the Desolation of Salt
 62591 | Desolati | Identified the Almanac of Contamination
 62595 | Desolati | Identified Zahy Jai's Handbook of Dislocated Transmutation
 62601 | Desolati | Identified the amulet of Jokunioh {Reflect +Fly SH+6} (You found it in the Desolation of Salt)
 62610 | Desolati | Got a sparkling lead ring
 62611 | Desolati | Identified the ring of Luudop {Fire +Fly} (You found it in the Desolation of Salt)
 62616 | Desolati | Got a crystal dagger
 62617 | Desolati | Identified the +7 dagger of Uskayaw's Envy {drain, rN+ MR+ Int+4} (You found it in the Desolation of Salt)
 63345 | Desolati | Got a slimy copper ring
 63347 | Desolati | Identified the ring "Dituydoa" {Ice MP+9 Dex+4} (You found it in the Desolation of Salt)
 63364 | Desolati | Identified the Almanac of the Arsonist
 64023 | Desolati | Got a transparent platinum ring
 64026 | Desolati | Got a pitted iron ring
 64028 | Desolati | Identified the ring "Xemop" {rN++ MP+9} (You found it in the Desolation of Salt)
 64030 | Desolati | Identified the ring "Xynohups" {rElec MP+9} (You found it in the Desolation of Salt)
 64037 | Desolati | Got a flickering crystal amulet
 64039 | Desolati | Identified the amulet of Zyoh {RegenMP rN+ SInv} (You found it in the Desolation of Salt)
 64042 | Desolati | Got a crude leather armour
 64053 | Desolati | Identified the cursed +1 leather armour of the Griffon {Dex+2 Stlth+} (You found it in the Desolation of Salt)
 64341 | Desolati | Reached skill level 16 in Summonings
 65118 | D:9      | Bought an uncursed staff of energy for 375 gold pieces
 66770 | Spider:3 | Reached skill level 1 in Staves
 69000 | Spider:4 | Got a gossamer rune of Zot
 70200 | Vaults:1 | Reached skill level 17 in Summonings
 70863 | Vaults:1 | Reached XP level 18. HP: 144/144 MP: 34/38
 71042 | D:13     | Learned a level 7 spell: Malign Gateway
 71470 | Vaults:1 | Noticed a lich
 71496 | Vaults:1 | Got a crystal falchion
 71497 | Vaults:1 | Identified the +7 falchion of the Many Gods {venom, rC- Dex+6 SInv} (You found it on level 1 of the Vaults)
 71647 | Vaults:1 | Found an opulent altar of Gozag.
 73098 | Vaults:1 | Reached skill level 5 in Staves
 75275 | Vaults:2 | Found a sacrificial altar of Ru.
 75533 | Vaults:2 | Reached skill level 10 in Translocations
 76954 | Vaults:3 | Noticed Rehigok's ghost (adept HOFi)
 76978 | Vaults:3 | Killed Rehigok's ghost
 78693 | Vaults:3 | Noticed Aizul
 78708 | Vaults:2 | Killed Aizul
 79535 | Vaults:3 | Found Hackomoa's Magic Scroll Boutique.
 80042 | Vaults:4 | Reached XP level 19. HP: 31/149 MP: 12/39
 80421 | Vaults:4 | Found Luett's Gadget Shop.
 80744 | Vaults:4 | Found Diry's General Store.
 80762 | Vaults:4 | Bought a potion of heal wounds for 90 gold pieces
 80888 | Vaults:4 | Found Recah's Weapon Boutique.
 81955 | Vaults:4 | Reached skill level 5 in Armour
 82953 | Vaults:4 | Found Edoqin's Armour Shop.
 82966 | Vaults:4 | Found Duxzui's Jewellery Boutique.
 83588 | Vaults:3 | Noticed Frederick
 83595 | Vaults:3 | Killed Frederick
 83742 | Vaults:3 | Reached skill level 10 in Fighting
 83804 | Vaults:3 | Found a staircase to the Crypt.
 83816 | Crypt:1  | Entered Level 1 of the Crypt
 83839 | Crypt:1  | Noticed Bai Suzhen
 85542 | Elf:3    | Entered Level 3 of the Elven Halls
 86448 | Elf:3    | Cast into level 2 of the Abyss (a deep elf sorcerer)
 86566 | Elf:3    | Escaped the Abyss
 87026 | Elf:2    | Found a runed door.
 87026 | Elf:2    | Found a runed door.
 88297 | Elf:3    | Reached skill level 5 in Evocations
 88678 | Elf:3    | Identified the Collected Works on Clay and Curses
 88678 | Elf:3    | Identified the Collected Works on Clay and Curses
 88678 | Elf:3    | Identified the Collected Works on Clay and Curses
 89309 | Depths:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Depths
 89486 | Orc:2    | Bought a crystal ball of energy for 220 gold pieces

Skill      XL: |  1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 |
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Ice Magic      |  3     4           6  9                                  |  9.0
Spellcasting   |     2              3        6  8 10       11             | 11.5
Shields        |        1  3  4  5                                        |  5.3
Fighting       |                       2  3           5  8             11 | 11.6
Summonings     |                       4  6           8     9 13 17       | 17.2
Conjurations   |                          3  6        7     9             |  9.4
Translocations |                          2     4  6                12 13 | 13.0
Short Blades   |                             3  6                         |  6.0
Air Magic      |                                3  6  7                   |  7.0
Dodging        |                                   4           6          |  6.0
Armour         |                                      1     3           7 |  7.0
Charms         |                                      5  6  8             |  8.0
Stealth        |                                            3             |  3.3
Evocations     |                                            2           5 |  5.2
Staves         |                                                  2  5    |  5.2

Action                   |  1- 3 |  4- 6 |  7- 9 | 10-12 | 13-15 | 16-18 | 19-21 || total
-------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------++-------
Melee: Unarmed           |     7 |       |       |       |       |       |       ||     7
       Short sword       |    14 |    80 |   171 |   397 |   790 |   867 |    12 ||  2331
       Dagger            |    17 |    71 |     1 |       |       |   174 |     5 ||   268
       Staff             |       |       |       |       |       |   269 |    59 ||   328
 Cast: Freeze            |    68 |    95 |    75 |   208 |   161 |       |       ||   607
       Ozocubu's Armour  |       |     2 |     6 |    48 |    43 |    34 |     1 ||   134
       Throw Frost       |       |     9 |    10 |    24 |    56 |       |       ||    99
       Summon Ice Beast  |       |       |    43 |   168 |   193 |   388 |    11 ||   803
       Blink             |       |       |     1 |    15 |    12 |    36 |    21 ||    85
       Throw Icicle      |       |       |       |    36 |   133 |    29 |       ||   198
       Conjure Flame     |       |       |       |     2 |       |       |       ||     2
       Shroud of Golubri |       |       |       |    15 |    18 |    18 |       ||    51
       Summon Lightning  |       |       |       |    20 |    75 |   121 |    29 ||   245
       Passage of Golubr |       |       |       |     2 |     7 |    12 |     5 ||    26
       Iskenderun's Batt |       |       |       |       |    18 |       |       ||    18
       Summon Butterflie |       |       |       |       |     2 |     9 |     1 ||    12
       Summon Mana Viper |       |       |       |       |       |   113 |    62 ||   175
       Summon Hydra      |       |       |       |       |       |   372 |   175 ||   547
       Malign Gateway    |       |       |       |       |       |       |    31 ||    31
 Abil: Evoke Flight      |       |       |       |       |     1 |     3 |       ||     4
Evoke: Wand              |       |       |       |       |     3 |    13 |       ||    16
       Staff of energy   |       |       |       |       |       |     1 |       ||     1
  Use: Scroll            |     3 |     6 |     2 |    16 |    24 |    31 |     8 ||    90
       Potion            |       |       |       |     2 |     6 |    17 |     2 ||    27
 Stab: Sleeping          |       |     4 |     5 |       |     4 |    10 |       ||    23
       Distracted        |       |       |       |     5 |     2 |    28 |     6 ||    41
       Paralysed         |       |       |       |       |       |     2 |       ||     2
  Eat: Chunk             |     3 |    10 |    21 |    49 |    59 |    61 |       ||   203
       Royal jelly       |       |       |       |     1 |       |     9 |       ||    10
       Fruit             |       |       |       |     3 |    21 |    23 |     4 ||    51
       Bread ration      |       |       |       |       |       |     6 |     6 ||    12
Armor: Robe              |    29 |    52 |    40 |   176 |    10 |       |       ||   307
       Leather armour    |       |       |       |       |   251 |   786 |   108 ||  1145
Dodge: Dodged            |    48 |    91 |   117 |   392 |   545 |  1106 |   168 ||  2467
Block: Buckler           |     7 |    63 |    92 |   224 |   428 |   840 |   119 ||  1773
       Reflection        |       |       |       |       |    32 |     1 |       ||    33


Current Victories:
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3 Runes: GrEE^Ru, CeBe^Trog, SpEn^Gozag, KoAr^Dith, TeAE^Kiku, TrCK^Xom.
4 Runes: VSFi^Qaz.
5 Runes: DsGl^Oka, MiGl^Hep, GnWz^Sif.
9 Runes: DDAr^Makh.
15 Runes: HOFi^TSO->Zin, DEFE^Veh
For now...

Abyss Ambulator

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Post Wednesday, 1st November 2017, 17:08

Re: CIP: DgIE with summons- third rune?

Do U and C and train up a weapon, Fighting, and Dodging, then decide.

PoG doesn't work in Zot.

Malmutation doesn't check MR.
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Halls Hopper

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Post Wednesday, 1st November 2017, 17:27

Re: CIP: DgIE with summons- third rune?

Well, I was doing fine. I finished C and cleared U:1-2, got low-ish on U:3 and went upstairs to heal. I died in one turn from 2 ice dragons and a stone giant that for some reason were there within 2 tiles of the stairs even though I completely cleared that floor. As usual the game is a sadistic pile of RNG.
Current Victories:
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3 Runes: GrEE^Ru, CeBe^Trog, SpEn^Gozag, KoAr^Dith, TeAE^Kiku, TrCK^Xom.
4 Runes: VSFi^Qaz.
5 Runes: DsGl^Oka, MiGl^Hep, GnWz^Sif.
9 Runes: DDAr^Makh.
15 Runes: HOFi^TSO->Zin, DEFE^Veh
For now...

Abyss Ambulator

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Post Thursday, 2nd November 2017, 16:32

Re: CIP: DgIE with summons- third rune?

Ugh. RIP.
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Post Thursday, 2nd November 2017, 19:03

Re: CIP: DgIE with summons- third rune?

I think they want to remove respawn in the next release.
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3DSBeTr 15DSFiRu 3DSMoNe 3FoHuGo 3TrArOk 3HOFEVe 3MfGlOk 4GrEEVe 3BaIEChei 3HuMoOka 3MiWnQaz 3VSFiAsh 3DrTmMakh 3DSCKXom 3OgMoOka 3NaFiOka 3FoFiOka 3MuFEVeh 3CeHuOka 3TrMoTSO 3DEFESif 3DSMoOka 3DSFiOka

Halls Hopper

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Post Thursday, 2nd November 2017, 19:25

Re: CIP: DgIE with summons- third rune?

Too bad you died. For sake of argument. I would have tried to clear U and C before getting 4th rune. Use those to get more xp. I personally wouldn't focus on weapon training. Instead, I would trade more dodging as your EV is pretty low & you have good dex. You could probably get EV in the 30's which I find helps tremendously to not die. I would also focus on developing more magic as your kill-dudes. More spell casting to get more MP to prolong fights. Not sure, 100% sure because I haven't played a lot of purely summon stuff to killdudes, but maybe develop an alternative to summons to directly kill things after you summon some stuff? The reason I say that is that if you were to try vault5, I find that you often need to target a certain thing like vault wardens blocking stairs or tentacled monstrosities constricting you & not letting you upstairs.

In any case, had you made it that far & cleared U & C, I think I would have tried for slime rune first. You have rC+ and you should be able to run from TRJ & reset if things aren't going your way. Malign gateway is ridiculously strong, whenever I get that up & running I pretty much let it handle the OOFs in Zot5. I haven't tried it on TRJ, but maybe it works - if not, just reset. You don't have a ton of teleport scrolls & v5 can sometimes be an long onslaught that taxes a casters MP which you can't refill at the moment - seems riskier.
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Post Friday, 3rd November 2017, 16:20

Re: CIP: DgIE with summons- third rune?

I only had 2 runes when I died, I had cleared C and was working through U.

Dodging I agree with, that would have helped a lot. Magic-wise though, I couldn't get any better. My summons were already near max power and dumping more XP into casting and magic as a demigod would have been way too expensive. Dg also levels very slowly so getting spell levels that way isn't a walk in the park either.
Current Victories:
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3 Runes: GrEE^Ru, CeBe^Trog, SpEn^Gozag, KoAr^Dith, TeAE^Kiku, TrCK^Xom.
4 Runes: VSFi^Qaz.
5 Runes: DsGl^Oka, MiGl^Hep, GnWz^Sif.
9 Runes: DDAr^Makh.
15 Runes: HOFi^TSO->Zin, DEFE^Veh
For now...

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