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Joined: Saturday, 16th September 2017, 21:17

Post Thursday, 21st September 2017, 13:22

GrFi of Cheibro Tank -- thoughts and advice

Sooooo....

Managed to easily get two runes with my Cheibro tank. The game was ridiculously low on good weapons/artefacts of any kind, though, so I made the mistake of trying out Elven Halls 3. I would have been fine if it hadn't been for damnation all the time. The Abyss was astoundingly easy with this build every time I got cast there (didn't manage to find the rune, though). That said, thoughts, suggestions, improvements, etc. for this build?

  Code:
 Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.20.1-1-g8b1a95d (webtiles) character file.

305169 Alphaeus the Peltast (level 21, -19/151 HPs)
             Began as a Gargoyle Fighter on Sept 20, 2017.
             Was a High Priest of Cheibriados.
             Killed from afar by a deep elf high priest (38 damage)
             ... with damnation
             ... on level 3 of the Elven Halls on Sept 21, 2017.
             The game lasted 04:56:03 (43635 turns).

Alphaeus the Peltast (Gargoyle Fighter)            Turns: 43635, Time: 04:56:16

Health: -19/151    AC: 54    Str: 38    XL:     21   Next: 13%
Magic:  18/37      EV: 18    Int: 28    God:    Cheibriados [*****.]
Gold:   2506       SH: 32    Dex: 27    Spells: 24/44 levels left

rFire    . . .     SeeInvis .   W - +3 broad axe (elec)
rCold    . . .     Gourm    .   c - +0 large shield
rNeg     + + +     Faith    .   b - +8 plate armour of the Beekeeper {rElec rC- rN+++ Stlth+}
rPois    ∞         Spirit   .   X - +3 helmet of Monkosuc {rC+ Int+4 Dex+5}
rElec    +         Reflect  +   F - +1 cloak
rCorr    .         Harm     .   I - +1 pair of gloves {archery}
MR       ++...     Rnd*Rage +   A - +1 pair of boots {Stlth+}
Stlth    ..........             h - +6 amulet of reflection
Regen    0.4/turn               u - +4 ring of slaying
MPRegen  0.3/turn               q - +5 ring of evasion

@: flying, very slightly contaminated, very slow
A: big wings, yellow scales 1, berserk 1, magic resistance 1, negative energy
resistance 1, robust 2, electricity resistance, unbreathing, petrification
resistance, rot immunity, sturdy frame 1, AC +15
}: 2/15 runes: decaying, gossamer
a: Stop Flying, Bend Time, Temporal Distortion, Slouch, Step From Time, Renounce
Religion


You were on level 3 of the Elven Halls.
You worshipped Cheibriados.
Cheibriados was extremely pleased with you.
You were not hungry.

You visited 8 branches of the dungeon, and saw 36 of its levels.
You visited the Abyss 2 times.
You also visited: Ice Cave and Volcano.

You collected 3573 gold pieces.
You spent 1067 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Hand Weapons
 H - a +2 morningstar of holy wrath
 L - a +0 executioner's axe of freezing
 W - a +3 broad axe of electrocution (weapon)
Armour
 b - the +8 plate armour of the Beekeeper (worn) {rElec rC- rN+++ Stlth+}
   (You bought it in a shop on level 6 of the Dungeon)   
   
   It makes you vulnerable to cold.
   It insulates you from electricity.
   It renders you almost immune to negative energy.
   It makes you more stealthy.
 c - a +0 large shield (worn)
 A - a +1 pair of boots of stealth (worn)
 F - a +1 cloak (worn)
 I - a +1 pair of gloves of archery (worn)
 X - the +3 helmet of Monkosuc (worn) {rC+ Int+4 Dex+5}
   (You found it on level 3 of the Elven Halls)   
   
   It affects your intelligence (+4).
   It affects your dexterity (+5).
   It protects you from cold.
Jewellery
 h - a +6 amulet of reflection (around neck)
 o - an uncursed ring of protection from fire
 q - a +5 ring of evasion (right hand)
 u - a +4 ring of slaying (left hand)
 v - a +5 ring of dexterity
 Q - a +5 ring of protection
 S - an uncursed ring of ice
Wands
 m - a wand of enslavement (9/24)
 w - a wand of digging (8/24)
 J - a wand of disintegration (18/24)
 O - a wand of scattershot (7/9)
Scrolls
 i - 5 scrolls of amnesia
 j - 11 scrolls of remove curse
 k - 4 scrolls of enchant armour
 l - 12 scrolls of identify
 s - 17 scrolls of teleportation
 t - 2 scrolls of magic mapping
 z - a scroll of torment
 N - a scroll of holy word
 P - a scroll of brand weapon
 R - 5 scrolls of recharging
 V - 3 scrolls of immolation
 Y - 2 scrolls of blinking
Potions
 d - a potion of ambrosia
 e - 7 potions of mutation
 B - a potion of resistance
 C - 2 potions of invisibility
 K - 4 potions of brilliance
 U - 4 potions of agility
Books
 a - a book of Ice   
   
    Spells                             Type                      Level
    a - Ice Form                     Ice/Transmutation             4
    b - Metabolic Englaciation       Hexes/Ice                     5
    c - Ozocubu's Refrigeration      Ice                           6
    d - Bolt of Cold                 Conjuration/Ice               6
    e - Freezing Cloud               Conjuration/Ice/Air           6
    f - Simulacrum                   Ice/Necromancy                6
 r - a book of Minor Magic   
   
    Spells                             Type                      Level
    a - Magic Dart                   Conjuration                   1
    b - Blink                        Translocation                 2
    c - Call Imp                     Summoning                     2
    d - Slow                         Hexes                         2
    e - Conjure Flame                Conjuration/Fire              3
    f - Mephitic Cloud               Conjuration/Poison/Air        3
 x - a book of Power   
   
    Spells                             Type                      Level
    a - Iskenderun's Battlesphere    Conjuration/Charms            5
    b - Venom Bolt                   Conjuration/Poison            5
    c - Bolt of Magma                Conjuration/Fire/Earth        5
    d - Iron Shot                    Conjuration/Earth             6
    e - Orb of Destruction           Conjuration                   7
    f - Spellforged Servitor         Conjuration/Summoning         7
 y - a book of Maledictions   
   
    Spells                             Type                      Level
    a - Corona                       Hexes                         1
    b - Ensorcelled Hibernation      Hexes/Ice                     2
    c - Confuse                      Hexes                         3
    d - Tukima's Dance               Hexes                         3
    e - Dazzling Spray               Conjuration/Hexes             3
 D - Sif Muna's Compendium of Creative Attacks
   (You found it on level 1 of the Elven Halls)   
   
    Spells                             Type                      Level
    a - Magic Dart                   Conjuration                   1
    b - Summon Butterflies           Summoning                     1
    c - Static Discharge             Conjuration/Air               3
    d - Irradiate                    Conjuration/Transmutation     5
    e - Conjure Ball Lightning       Conjuration/Air               6
 E - a book of Debilitation   
   
    Spells                             Type                      Level
    a - Corona                       Hexes                         1
    b - Slow                         Hexes                         2
    c - Inner Flame                  Hexes/Fire                    3
    d - Portal Projectile            Hexes/Translocation           3
    e - Cause Fear                   Hexes                         4
    f - Leda's Liquefaction          Hexes/Earth                   4
 G - a book of Frost   
   
    Spells                             Type                      Level
    a - Freeze                       Ice                           1
    b - Throw Frost                  Conjuration/Ice               2
    c - Ozocubu's Armour             Charms/Ice                    3
    d - Throw Icicle                 Conjuration/Ice               4
    e - Summon Ice Beast             Ice/Summoning                 4
Miscellaneous
 M - a lightning rod (4/4)
 T - a box of beasts
Comestibles
 f - 11 bread rations
 g - 10 meat rations
 n - 15 royal jellies
 p - 10 fruits


   Skills:
 + Level 11.9 Fighting
 * Level 17.6 Maces & Flails
 * Level 13.8 Armour
 + Level 5.0 Dodging
 - Level 2.0 Stealth
 + Level 18.9 Shields
 * Level 12.3 Spellcasting
 + Level 10.0 Conjurations
 - Level 6.7 Hexes
 * Level 8.0 Ice Magic
 + Level 0.1 Air Magic
 * Level 12.0 Invocations


You had 24 spell levels left.
You knew the following spells:

 Your Spells              Type           Power        Failure   Level  Hunger
a - Dazzling Spray        Conj/Hex       ######       1%          3    None
b - Throw Icicle          Conj/Ice       ######..     5%          4    None
c - Corona                Hex            ######.      1%          1    None
d - Confuse               Hex            ######..     4%          3    None
e - Mephitic Cloud        Conj/Pois/Air  #####...     16%         3    None
f - Conjure Flame         Conj/Fire      #####...     9%          3    None
g - Tukima's Dance        Hex            ######..     4%          3    None


Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (15/15)            Temple (1/1) D:7            Lair (6/6) D:8
  Swamp (4/4) Lair:3       Spider (4/4) Lair:2        Slime (0/5) Lair:5
    Orc (2/2) D:10            Elf (3/3) Orc:2        Vaults (0/5) D:14
 Depths (1/5) D:15       

Altars:
Ashenzari
Cheibriados
Dithmenos
Elyvilon
Fedhas
Gozag
Hepliaklqana
Kikubaaqudgha
Okawaru
Qazlal
Ru
Trog
Uskayaw
Vehumet
Xom
Yredelemnul
Jiyva

Shops:
D:6 [   D:7 !   D:8 ![%}   D:9 }   D:10 %   D:11 }(:   D:13 (   Orc:2 =:[(
Elf:1 [

Annotations:
D:11 exclusion: obsidian statue


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You are resistant to torment.
Your stone body is resilient. (AC +15)
You are immune to poison.
Your large and strong wings let you fly indefinitely.
You resist negative energy. (rN+)
You are resistant to electric shocks. (rElec)
You can survive without breathing.
You are immune to petrification.
You are immune to rotting.
You are partially covered in yellow scales. (AC +2)
You tend to lose your temper in combat.
You are resistant to hostile enchantments. (MR+)
You are very robust. (+20% HP)
Your movements are slightly less encumbered by armour. (ER -2)


Message History

The deep elf mage blinks!
The deep elf annihilator gestures at you while chanting.
The iron shot reflects off an invisible shield around you!
The iron shot hits the deep elf annihilator.
You block the ice beast's attack.
The deep elf annihilator completely misses you.
The deep elf high priest prays to its god.
The deep elf high priest begins emitting a brilliant aura!
The deep elf annihilator is empowered by the deep elf high priest's aura!
The deep elf elementalist is empowered by the deep elf high priest's aura!
The deep elf mage is empowered by the deep elf high priest's aura!
The deep elf annihilator points at you and mumbles some strange words.
The bolt of lightning misses you.
The deep elf annihilator seems less brilliant.
The deep elf elementalist seems less brilliant.
The deep elf annihilator is empowered by the deep elf high priest's aura!
The deep elf elementalist is empowered by the deep elf high priest's aura!
The deep elf high priest calls down the wrath of its god upon you.
The sphere of damnation explodes! The damnation engulfs you!
You die...

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You could see a deep elf annihilator, a deep elf elementalist, a deep elf high
priest, 2 ice beasts and a scimitar of draining.

Vanquished Creatures
  Mara (Spider:4)
  Nikola (Swamp:1)
  Arachne (Spider:2)
  Jorgrun (Spider:2)
  An Ice Fiend (IceCv)
  2 tentacled starspawn
  Frances (Spider:1)
  Donald (Spider:2)
  Kirke (D:14)
  A thorn hunter (Swamp:4)
  Louise (D:15)
  4 deep elf sorcerers
  4 ghost moths
  5 emperor scorpions
  An orc warlord (Orc:1)
  2 deep elf elementalists (Elf:3)
  A stone giant (Volcano)
  2 very ugly things
  An entropy weaver (Spider:2)
  2 deep elf demonologists (Elf:3)
  Azrael (Spider:1)
  2 spark wasps
  A lorocyproca (Abyss:2)
  An ettin (Depths:1)
  3 deep elf death magi
  Josephine (D:15)
  An ogre mage (D:13)
  2 ice dragons
  The ghost of mole0619 the Nimble, a journeyman KoAM of Ashenzari (D:13)
  31 hydras
  The ghost of Chazgasm the Severer, a journeyman MiBe of Trog (D:12)
  A catoblepas (Lair:2)
  11 two-headed ogres
  2 centaur warriors
  28 dancing weapons
  9 alligators
  Erica (D:11)
  A deep troll earth mage (Depths:1)
  4 death yaks (Lair:5)
  3 tengu warriors
  13 deep elf knights
  Nergalle (D:10)
  3 wretched stars
  A spatial maelstrom (Abyss:2)
  An iron troll (Depths:1)
  A death drake (Abyss:3)
  8 skeletal warriors (D:13)
  A spriggan druid (Swamp:4)
  2 unseen horrors (D:12)
  7 deep elf archers
  3 deep trolls (Depths:1)
  2 quicksilver dragon simulacra
  A lindwurm (Lair:6)
  10 swamp dragons
  4 orc knights
  A harpy (shapeshifter) (Elf:1)
  4 shambling mangroves (Swamp:4)
  48 deep elf magi
  14 orb spiders
  3 orc sorcerers
  38 wolf spiders
  27 ugly things
  A cyclops (D:13)
  2 worldbinders (Abyss:3)
  A guardian serpent (Lair:6)
  2 ice statues (Spider:3)
  7 large abominations
  2 manticores
  A centaur zombie (D:13)
  4 moths of wrath
  8 torpor snails
  Maurice (D:8)
  16 elephants
  9 black mambas
  4 gargoyles
  An orange demon (Abyss:2)
  A smoke demon (Abyss:3)
  A stone giant skeleton (Depths:1)
  4 rime drakes
  A centaur skeleton (D:15)
  19 spiny frogs
  7 ice devils (IceCv)
  15 demonic crawlers
  3 komodo dragons
  2 freezing wraiths
  3 tengu conjurers
  An efreet (Volcano)
  4 yaktaurs
  3 anaconda simulacra (IceCv)
  2 ancient zymes (Abyss:3)
  2 polar bears
  34 jumping spiders
  2 meliai (shapeshifter)
  11 trolls
  A polar bear (shapeshifter) (Elf:2)
  32 hornets
  Prince Ribbit (D:8)
  20 blink frogs
  6 bog bodies
  8 tyrant leeches
  27 dream sheep
  4 raiju
  A deep troll zombie (Depths:1)
  8 hippogriffs
  31 slime creatures
  3 centaur simulacra
  2 shadows
  86 redbacks
  A ynoxinul (Abyss:2)
  2 air elementals (Elf:2)
  6 wraiths
  10 spriggans
  7 water elementals
  10 fire elementals
  38 tarantellas
  13 wyverns
  36 yaks
  3 basilisks
  3 hungry ghosts (D:10)
  A dire elephant simulacrum (IceCv)
  2 fire bats (Abyss:3)
  4 golden eyes
  27 vampire mosquitoes
  2 hogs (D:14)
  3 harpy simulacra (IceCv)
  A death yak simulacrum (IceCv)
  Menkaure (D:7)
  A human zombie (Depths:1)
  3 spatial vortices (Abyss:2)
  5 iron troll simulacra (IceCv)
  4 wargs
  10 insubstantial wisps
  A soldier ant (D:10)
  24 swamp worms
  2 acid dragons
  An elf skeleton (Depths:1)
  40 water moccasins
  3 hydra simulacra (IceCv)
  A hell hound (Spider:1)
  16 porcupines
  A floating eye (shapeshifter) (Elf:3)
  5 black bears
  31 orc warriors
  3 phantoms
  4 sky beasts
  4 starcursed masses (Abyss:3)
  2 ice beasts
  13 swamp drakes
  7 boggarts
  2 eyes of draining
  19 ogres
  An alligator simulacrum (IceCv)
  A necrophage (D:11)
  6 wolves
  12 centaurs
  15 crocodiles
  4 small abominations (Abyss:3)
  5 big kobolds
  2 earth elementals (Volcano)
  15 bullfrogs
  A water moccasin zombie (D:8)
  5 scorpions
  A hornet simulacrum (D:11)
  2 wyvern skeletons
  An elephant simulacrum (IceCv)
  6 killer bees
  A killer bee (shapeshifter) (D:15)
  8 electric eels
  3 wights (D:12)
  2 howler monkeys
  10 crimson imps
  A bullfrog zombie (D:11)
  7 draconian simulacra (IceCv)
  A wyvern simulacrum (D:11)
  A gnoll shaman (D:8)
  7 jellies
  12 orc priests
  Crazy Yiuf (D:5)
  13 hounds
  An iron imp (Abyss:3)
  A bullfrog skeleton (D:8)
  22 orc wizards
  2 hell rats (Lair:3)
  5 iguanas
  A polar bear simulacrum (IceCv)
  2 spriggan simulacra (IceCv)
  A troll simulacrum (IceCv)
  14 worker ants
  2 wolf simulacra (IceCv)
  A hound skeleton (D:4)
  A howler monkey zombie (D:9)
  9 gnolls
  An ogre simulacrum (IceCv)
  40 adders
  2 naga simulacra (IceCv)
  8 river rats (Lair:3)
  7 shadow imps
  6 white imps
  4 ufetubi
  4 oozes (D:6)
  2 adder zombies
  5 worms
  An adder skeleton (D:6)
  7 leopard geckos
  76 orcs
  10 giant cockroaches
  6 goblins
  13 hobgoblins
  6 jackals
  3 quokkas
  2 ball pythons
  10 bats
  6 frilled lizards
  A jackal skeleton (D:4)
  15 kobolds
  A leopard gecko zombie (D:7)
  5 rats
  A spectral orc (D:3)
  A briar patch (Swamp:4)
  2 starspawn tentacles
1559 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (collateral kills)
  A komodo dragon (Lair:6)
  A water moccasin (Lair:6)
  2 plants (Lair:6)
4 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (others)
  A deep elf master archer (Elf:3)
  Nessos (D:15)
  A deep elf annihilator (Elf:3)
  A merfolk javelineer (Depths:1)
  Fannar (Orc:1)
  2 centaur warriors
  4 deep elf knights
  A necromancer (Depths:1)
  An orc knight (D:15)
  3 deep elf archers
  2 deep elf magi (Elf:2)
  An orb spider (Spider:4)
  A cyclops (D:14)
  Joseph (D:7)
  2 yaktaurs (Depths:1)
  2 blink frogs (Swamp:4)
  2 redbacks
  A swamp worm (Swamp:1)
  2 orc warriors
  A boggart (D:15)
  9 centaurs
  A big kobold (D:10)
  2 orc wizards
  2 ufetubi (IceCv)
  5 orcs
  26 fungi
  29 plants
  5 starspawn tentacles
  4 toadstools (D:6)
114 creatures vanquished.

Grand Total: 1677 creatures vanquished

Notes
Turn   | Place    | Note
-------+----------+-------------------------------------------
     0 | D:1      | Alphaeus the Gargoyle Fighter began the quest for the Orb.
     0 | D:1      | Reached XP level 1. HP: 14/14 MP: 1/1
   358 | D:1      | Reached XP level 2. HP: 18/19 MP: 2/2
   994 | D:1      | Reached XP level 3. HP: 19/23 MP: 2/4
  1591 | D:2      | Reached XP level 4. HP: 22/29 MP: 5/5
  2654 | D:3      | Reached skill level 1 in Spellcasting
  2663 | D:3      | Reached skill level 4 in Shields
  2663 | D:3      | Reached XP level 5. HP: 25/33 MP: 6/6
  2801 | D:3      | Found a bloodstained altar of Trog.
  3718 | D:3      | Found a basalt altar of Yredelemnul.
  3899 | D:4      | Reached XP level 6. HP: 38/38 MP: 6/8
  3936 | D:4      | Reached skill level 1 in Dodging
  3978 | D:4      | Reached skill level 1 in Stealth
  4191 | D:4      | Reached XP level 7. HP: 42/43 MP: 10/10
  4412 | D:4      | Reached skill level 5 in Maces & Flails
  4706 | D:4      | Learned a level 3 spell: Dazzling Spray
  4909 | D:5      | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
  4956 | D:4      | Reached skill level 5 in Shields
  5411 | D:5      | Reached XP level 8. HP: 48/48 MP: 12/12
  5599 | D:5      | Found a white marble altar of Elyvilon.
  5907 | D:5      | Found a runed door.
  5995 | D:5      | Found a stormy altar of Qazlal.
  5996 | D:5      | Noticed a water elemental
  5998 | D:5      | Noticed an air elemental
  6057 | D:5      | Reached skill level 1 in Conjurations
  6358 | D:5      | Noticed Crazy Yiuf
  6365 | D:5      | Killed Crazy Yiuf
  6533 | D:6      | Found a sacrificial altar of Ru.
  6548 | D:6      | Found a shimmering altar of Xom.
  6555 | D:6      | Found Gotyotah's Antique Armour Shoppe.
  6555 | D:6      | Found a hazy altar of Hepliaklqana.
  6568 | D:6      | Found a shadowy altar of Dithmenos.
  6698 | D:6      | Reached skill level 6 in Shields
  6766 | D:6      | Noticed a slime creature
  6777 | D:6      | Killed a slime creature
  6777 | D:6      | Reached XP level 9. HP: 36/52 MP: 14/14
  7090 | D:6      | Gained mutation: You are partially covered in yellow scales. (AC +2) [mutagenic meat]
  7091 | D:6      | Gained mutation: You are resistant to hostile enchantments. (MR+) [mutagenic meat]
  7092 | D:6      | Gained mutation: You are robust. (+10% HP) [mutagenic meat]
  7093 | D:6      | Gained mutation: Your movements are slightly less encumbered by armour. (ER -2) [mutagenic meat]
  7095 | D:6      | Gained mutation: You are very robust. (+20% HP) [mutagenic meat]
  7150 | D:6      | Found an opulent altar of Gozag.
  7414 | D:7      | Noticed Joseph
  7422 | D:7      | Killed Joseph
  7608 | D:7      | Noticed Menkaure
  7617 | D:7      | Killed Menkaure
  7704 | D:7      | Found an iron altar of Okawaru.
  7705 | D:7      | Found a shimmering altar of Xom.
  7705 | D:7      | Found a snail-covered altar of Cheibriados.
  7705 | D:7      | Found a white marble altar of Elyvilon.
  7705 | D:7      | Found a bloodstained altar of Trog.
  7705 | D:7      | Found a white marble altar of Elyvilon.
  7705 | D:7      | Found a sacrificial altar of Ru.
  7706 | D:7      | Found a shimmering altar of Xom.
  7706 | D:7      | Found a shattered altar of Ashenzari.
  7706 | D:7      | Found a white marble altar of Elyvilon.
  7708 | D:7      | Found a white marble altar of Elyvilon.
  7708 | D:7      | Found a shimmering altar of Xom.
  7738 | D:7      | Became a worshipper of Cheibriados the Contemplative
  7932 | D:7      | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple.
  7992 | D:7      | Found Fimuc's Distillery.
  7995 | D:7      | Bought a potion of degeneration for 10 gold pieces
  8051 | Temple   | Entered the Ecumenical Temple
  8417 | D:7      | Reached skill level 7 in Shields
  9003 | D:8      | Found Ypateh's Distillery.
  9003 | D:8      | Noticed Maurice
  9024 | D:8      | Reached * piety under Cheibriados
  9024 | D:8      | Reached XP level 10. HP: 50/69 MP: 16/16
  9045 | D:8      | Killed Maurice
  9145 | D:8      | Bought a potion of lignification for 36 gold pieces
  9162 | D:8      | Found Atowef's Food Boutique.
  9185 | D:8      | Found Anarghev's Gadget Emporium.
  9324 | D:8      | Found a staircase to the Lair.
  9376 | D:8      | Found Hicuk's Armour Shoppe.
  9497 | D:8      | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting
  9505 | D:8      | Noticed Prince Ribbit
  9537 | D:8      | Killed Prince Ribbit
  9671 | D:8      | Found a hide-covered altar of Uskayaw.
  9766 | D:9      | Reached ** piety under Cheibriados
  9766 | D:9      | Reached skill level 5 in Conjurations
  9800 | D:9      | Reached skill level 8 in Shields
  9872 | D:9      | Reached skill level 5 in Spellcasting
  9879 | D:9      | Reached skill level 10 in Maces & Flails
  9882 | D:9      | Reached skill level 5 in Armour
 10050 | D:9      | Noticed a four-headed hydra
 10050 | D:9      | Found Ciffefoe's Gadget Emporium.
 10061 | D:9      | Killed a four-headed hydra
 10061 | D:9      | Reached XP level 11. HP: 47/76 MP: 17/19
 10187 | D:9      | Learned a level 4 spell: Throw Icicle
 10638 | D:10     | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon
 10996 | D:10     | Found Letezef's Food Shoppe.
 11079 | D:10     | Noticed Nergalle
 11097 | D:10     | Killed Nergalle
 11101 | D:10     | Reached *** piety under Cheibriados
 11109 | D:10     | Reached skill level 9 in Shields
 11343 | D:10     | Noticed a centaur warrior
 11350 | D:10     | Killed a centaur warrior
 11408 | D:10     | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines.
 11978 | D:10     | Reached **** piety under Cheibriados
 12121 | Lair:1   | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts
 12123 | Lair:1   | Noticed a five-headed hydra
 12132 | Lair:1   | Killed a five-headed hydra
 12132 | Lair:1   | Reached XP level 12. HP: 51/84 MP: 21/21
 12487 | D:7      | Bought a potion of heal wounds for 50 gold pieces
 12487 | D:7      | Bought a potion of heal wounds for 50 gold pieces
 12693 | Lair:1   | Reached skill level 10 in Shields
 13247 | Lair:1   | Reached ***** piety under Cheibriados
 13633 | Lair:2   | Noticed an eight-headed hydra
 13645 | Lair:2   | Killed an eight-headed hydra
 14010 | Lair:2   | Noticed a catoblepas
 14022 | Lair:2   | Killed a catoblepas
 14238 | Lair:2   | Reached skill level 11 in Shields
 14241 | Lair:2   | Reached XP level 13. HP: 84/91 MP: 23/23
 14338 | Lair:2   | Reached ****** piety under Cheibriados
 14463 | Lair:2   | Found a hole to the Spider Nest.
 15182 | D:6      | Bought a polished plate armour for 700 gold pieces
 15196 | D:6      | Identified the +8 plate armour of the Beekeeper {rElec rC- rN+++ Stlth+} (You bought it in a shop on level 6 of the Dungeon)
 15567 | Lair:3   | Reached skill level 1 in Invocations
 15664 | Lair:3   | Found a staircase to the Swamp.
 16423 | Lair:4   | Reached skill level 12 in Shields
 16945 | Lair:5   | Found a staircase to the Slime Pits.
 16945 | Lair:5   | Found a viscous altar of Jiyva.
 17200 | Lair:5   | Gained mutation: Your large and strong wings let you fly indefinitely. [Gargoyle growth]
 17200 | Lair:5   | Reached XP level 14. HP: 99/99 MP: 25/25
 17805 | Lair:5   | Learned a level 1 spell: Corona
 17839 | Lair:6   | Entered Level 6 of the Lair of Beasts
 18213 | Lair:6   | Reached skill level 10 in Conjurations
 18498 | Lair:6   | Found a runed door.
 18522 | Lair:6   | Reached skill level 13 in Shields
 18549 | Lair:6   | Reached skill level 1 in Hexes
 19124 | Lair:6   | Reached XP level 15. HP: 106/106 MP: 27/27
 19130 | Lair:6   | Reached skill level 5 in Invocations
 19918 | D:11     | Found Juadoat's Gadget Shoppe.
 19939 | D:11     | Found Waoggoxi's Book Emporium.
 20083 | D:11     | Noticed Erica
 20088 | D:11     | Killed Erica
 20243 | D:11     | Got a dull robe
 20259 | D:11     | Found a hazy altar of Hepliaklqana.
 20343 | D:11     | Found Osah's Weapon Boutique.
 20767 | D:12     | Noticed Chazgasm's ghost (journeyman MiBe)
 20780 | D:12     | Killed Chazgasm's ghost
 21063 | D:12     | Identified the +2 robe "Suxt" {Regen+ Stlth+} (You found it on level 11 of the Dungeon)
 21671 | D:13     | Reached skill level 14 in Shields
 21879 | D:13     | Found Fucigawn's Weapon Emporium.
 21909 | D:13     | Noticed mole0619's ghost (journeyman KoAM)
 21933 | D:13     | Killed mole0619's ghost
 22503 | Swamp:1  | Entered Level 1 of the Swamp
 22795 | Swamp:1  | Reached XP level 16. HP: 108/115 MP: 29/29
 22924 | Swamp:1  | Noticed Nikola
 22948 | Swamp:1  | Killed Nikola
 22948 | Swamp:1  | Reached skill level 15 in Maces & Flails
 23824 | Swamp:2  | Reached skill level 10 in Armour
 24766 | Swamp:4  | Entered Level 4 of the Swamp
 24771 | Swamp:4  | Learned a level 3 spell: Confuse
 25174 | Swamp:4  | Reached skill level 5 in Hexes
 25306 | Swamp:4  | Noticed a thorn hunter
 25316 | Swamp:4  | Killed a thorn hunter
 25316 | Swamp:4  | Reached skill level 15 in Shields
 26187 | Swamp:4  | Reached XP level 17. HP: 82/121 MP: 30/30
 26241 | Swamp:4  | Reached skill level 10 in Spellcasting
 26442 | Swamp:4  | Reached skill level 10 in Fighting
 26639 | Swamp:4  | Got a decaying rune of Zot
 27448 | D:14     | Found a gate to the Vaults.
 27662 | D:14     | Noticed Kirke
 27677 | D:14     | Killed Kirke
 27718 | D:15     | Entered Level 15 of the Dungeon
 27727 | D:15     | Noticed Louise
 27739 | D:15     | Killed Louise
 27739 | D:15     | Reached skill level 1 in Ice Magic
 28040 | D:15     | Found a shadowy altar of Dithmenos.
 28113 | D:15     | Noticed Nessos
 28134 | D:15     | Noticed Josephine
 28144 | D:15     | Reached skill level 16 in Shields
 28153 | D:15     | Killed Nessos
 28233 | D:15     | Killed Josephine
 28531 | D:15     | Found a staircase to the Depths.
 28656 | Orc:1    | Entered Level 1 of the Orcish Mines
 28832 | Orc:1    | Noticed Fannar
 28852 | Orc:1    | Killed Fannar
 29251 | Orc:2    | Entered Level 2 of the Orcish Mines
 29266 | Orc:2    | Found a dark tunnel.
 29277 | Volcano  | Entered a volcano
 29377 | Volcano  | Reached XP level 18. HP: 129/129 MP: 32/32
 29625 | Orc:2    | Found a bloodstained altar of Trog.
 29732 | Orc:2    | Found a staircase to the Elven Halls.
 30028 | Orc:2    | Found Moruup's Book Boutique.
 30028 | Orc:2    | Found Deynlir's Antique Armour Emporium.
 30030 | Orc:2    | Found Mus Kuith's Antique Weapon Shoppe.
 30032 | Orc:2    | Found Xacli's Jewellery Shop.
 30277 | Elf:1    | Entered Level 1 of the Elven Halls
 30479 | Elf:1    | Found Ymonuab's Antique Armour Boutique.
 31118 | Elf:1    | Identified Sif Muna's Compendium of Creative Attacks
 31845 | Elf:2    | Found a huge runed gate.
 31845 | Elf:2    | Found a huge runed gate.
 31845 | Elf:2    | Found a huge runed gate.
 31845 | Elf:2    | Found a huge runed gate.
 31848 | Elf:2    | Found a huge runed gate.
 32484 | Elf:2    | Gained mutation: You tend to lose your temper in combat. [a neqoxec]
 32768 | Elf:2    | Reached skill level 10 in Invocations
 33013 | Elf:2    | Reached skill level 17 in Shields
 33018 | Elf:2    | Reached XP level 19. HP: 133/136 MP: 34/34
 33372 | Depths:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Depths
 34719 | Spider:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Spider Nest
 34734 | Spider:1 | Reached skill level 5 in Ice Magic
 34992 | Spider:1 | Noticed Frances
 35011 | Spider:1 | Killed Frances
 35039 | Spider:1 | Noticed Azrael
 35106 | Spider:1 | Killed Azrael
 35790 | Spider:2 | Noticed Arachne
 35817 | Spider:2 | Killed Arachne
 36023 | Spider:2 | Learned a level 3 spell: Mephitic Cloud
 36176 | Spider:2 | Noticed Jorgrun
 36199 | Spider:2 | Killed Jorgrun
 36495 | Spider:2 | Noticed Donald
 36507 | Spider:2 | Killed Donald
 36839 | Spider:3 | Found a frozen archway.
 36878 | IceCv    | Entered an ice cave
 36910 | IceCv    | Got an agate-encrusted chain mail
 36928 | IceCv    | Identified the +8 chain mail of Dim Light {rPois Dex+3} (You found it in an ice cave)
 37544 | IceCv    | Noticed an Ice Fiend
 37591 | IceCv    | Killed an Ice Fiend
 38451 | Spider:3 | Reached skill level 18 in Shields
 38556 | Spider:3 | Reached XP level 20. HP: 144/144 MP: 35/35
 39075 | Spider:3 | Learned a level 3 spell: Conjure Flame
 39092 | Spider:4 | Entered Level 4 of the Spider Nest
 39107 | Spider:4 | Noticed Mara
 39111 | Spider:4 | Noticed Alphaeus's illusion
 39205 | Spider:4 | Killed Mara
 40662 | Spider:4 | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging
 41037 | Spider:4 | Got a gossamer rune of Zot
 42013 | D:13     | Bought a +1 broad axe of electrocution for 221 gold pieces
 42198 | Elf:2    | Learned a level 3 spell: Tukima's Dance
 42205 | Elf:3    | Entered Level 3 of the Elven Halls
 42535 | Elf:3    | Got a fine helmet
 42541 | Elf:3    | Identified the +3 helmet of Monkosuc {rC+ Int+4 Dex+5} (You found it on level 3 of the Elven Halls)
 42639 | Elf:3    | Cast into level 3 of the Abyss (a deep elf demonologist)
 43064 | Elf:3    | Escaped the Abyss
 43065 | Elf:3    | Noticed a Brimstone Fiend
 43069 | Elf:3    | Noticed a Brimstone Fiend
 43096 | Elf:3    | Cast into level 2 of the Abyss (a deep elf sorcerer)
 43396 | Abyss:2  | Reached XP level 21. HP: 151/151 MP: 37/37
 43512 | Elf:3    | Escaped the Abyss
 43592 | Elf:3    | Paralysed by a floating eye for 2 turns
 43595 | Elf:3    | Paralysed by a floating eye for 4 turns
 43635 | Elf:3    | Killed from afar by a deep elf high priest

Skill      XL: |  1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 |
---------------+----------------------------------------------------------------+-----
Maces & Flails |           3  4     6  7  9 10 11 12 13 14    15 16    17       | 17.6
Spellcasting   |           1     2     3  4  5  6  7     8  9    10 11    12    | 12.3
Shields        |           4        5  6  7  8  9 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18       | 18.9
Dodging        |                 1        2  3     4                       5    |  5.0
Stealth        |                 1                    2                         |  2.0
Fighting       |                 4           5  6  7     8  9    10 11          | 11.9
Armour         |                    4        5     6  7  8  9 10 11 12 13       | 13.8
Conjurations   |                       2  4  5  7  8  9 10                      | 10.0
Invocations    |                                      2  4  6  7  9 10 11    12 | 12.0
Hexes          |                                         1  3  5  6             |  6.7
Ice Magic      |                                                  2  4  6  7  8 |  8.0
Air Magic      |                                                                |  0.1

Action                   |  1- 3 |  4- 6 |  7- 9 | 10-12 | 13-15 | 16-18 | 19-21 || total
-------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------++-------
Melee: Flail             |   184 |   218 |   557 |   858 |  1446 |  1075 |       ||  4338
       Trident           |       |       |       |     1 |       |       |       ||     1
       Morningstar       |       |       |       |       |       |   837 |  1613 ||  2450
       Broad axe         |       |       |       |       |       |       |     3 ||     3
 Cast: Dazzling Spray    |       |       |       |     4 |       |     2 |     4 ||    10
       Throw Icicle      |       |       |       |       |       |       |    12 ||    12
       Confuse           |       |       |       |       |       |       |     5 ||     5
       Mephitic Cloud    |       |       |       |       |       |       |     1 ||     1
Invok: Slouch            |       |       |       |       |     3 |     2 |    11 ||    16
       Step From Time    |       |       |       |       |       |       |     5 ||     5
 Abil: Fly               |       |       |       |       |     1 |       |       ||     1
  Use: Scroll            |       |     1 |     4 |     6 |    24 |     7 |    13 ||    55
       Potion            |       |     1 |       |     5 |     2 |     5 |    16 ||    29
 Stab: Invisible         |       |     1 |       |       |       |       |     3 ||     4
       Distracted        |       |       |       |       |       |       |     1 ||     1
  Eat: Chunk             |     2 |     5 |    17 |     7 |    12 |     5 |     1 ||    49
       Meat ration       |       |     1 |     1 |     1 |     2 |     3 |     4 ||    12
       Bread ration      |       |       |       |     1 |       |       |       ||     1
Armor: Scale mail        |    88 |    93 |   225 |   184 |       |       |       ||   590
       Skin              |       |       |       |    66 |       |       |       ||    66
       Chain mail        |       |       |       |   111 |    95 |       |    63 ||   269
       Plate armour      |       |       |       |       |   381 |   488 |   949 ||  1818
Dodge: Dodged            |    47 |    68 |   144 |   237 |   432 |   629 |   866 ||  2423
Block: Shield            |   191 |   229 |   565 |  1006 |  1524 |  1090 |       ||  4605
       Reflection        |     2 |     1 |    11 |    22 |    22 |   161 |    58 ||   277
       Large shield      |       |       |       |       |       |  1190 |  2850 ||  4040

Ziggurat Zagger

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Post Thursday, 21st September 2017, 13:36

Re: GrFi of Cheibro Tank -- thoughts and advice

Why are you training M&F? Broad axe of electro is a perfect end-game weapon, especially with Chei who has problems with retreats to corridor.
You almost never cast any spells, probably stop training magic schools and train more Fighting/Armour/Dodging.
Also I would switch to regular shield, at least while training Fighting/Armour/Dodging. Basically you should never have Shields as highest skill.

Edit. Oops, I missed that the character is dead.

Edit2. With archery gloves and Chei I would probably train some ranged attack instead of spells.
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Halls Hopper

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Joined: Saturday, 16th September 2017, 21:17

Post Thursday, 21st September 2017, 13:48

Re: GrFi of Cheibro Tank -- thoughts and advice

1) I got the Broad Axe just before the war that killed me. Tbh, I hadn't changed over to axes yet because I had seen an eveningstar in Elven Halls 3...just couldn't get past the wall of Elves/summons that were in my way.

2) Spell -- tbh, I wanted to cast more, but the higher lvl ones were still JUST out of reach for me in spell-failure rates. I was training primarily to get my upper-power conjurations running (Iron Shot, Bolt of Magma, etc.)

3) Why would you use a regular shield? Just curious because blocking was ridiculously helpful for me.

Ziggurat Zagger

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Post Thursday, 21st September 2017, 13:55

Re: GrFi of Cheibro Tank -- thoughts and advice

Alphaeus wrote:3) Why would you use a regular shield? Just curious because blocking was ridiculously helpful for me.


1) You had huge AC and ok EV and would be fine even without any shield.
2) Large shield increased spell failure rate by a lot because you were far from Shields 25. Regular shield did not do that because you already had Shields 15.
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Shoals Surfer

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Joined: Tuesday, 4th October 2016, 09:32

Post Thursday, 21st September 2017, 16:36

Re: GrFi of Cheibro Tank -- thoughts and advice

Focus on one form of killdudes.

Use bend time/temp disto more.

LRD is pretty busted if you go for offensive spells on a mele/launcher dude fsr.

Launchers/2handers are worth swappimg into if a good one drops early.
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Post Friday, 22nd September 2017, 05:26

Re: GrFi of Cheibro Tank -- thoughts and advice

Your main armour added two resistances you already had, took away one you needed, and dumped more AC on a character that already had an insane amount. Since you've visited ice cave and volcano, was there not a good armour giving you resistances against cold or fire?
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Post Friday, 22nd September 2017, 12:23

Re: GrFi of Cheibro Tank -- thoughts and advice

That was the bizzare thing -- in the ice cave the BEST armor this time was a +0 leather armor of fire resistance. In the Volcano I found artefact armor with great AC, but in exchange for only rC and rPois I got -tele.

This gave was REALLY resistance barren, except for the basic rings.

That said, do remember Gargoyle only has innate rN+, so the rN+++ was a bit helpful at times.

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Post Friday, 22nd September 2017, 12:33

Re: GrFi of Cheibro Tank -- thoughts and advice

By the way there was
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   a +0 crystal plate armour (960 gold)

Probably it could be a good idea to buy and enchant it to +4 with those scrolls. That would allow you to have both rF+ and rC+ with ring of protection from fire, though of course the death was caused by tactics. Don't forget to teleport early with Chei or use Step from Time.
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Post Friday, 22nd September 2017, 13:28

Re: GrFi of Cheibro Tank -- thoughts and advice

Yeah, that armor was nice...and on my shopping list.

That said, +8 plate armor gave better AC and the helpful rN maxing, with 5 less points of encumbrance. So, at the moment, the plate armor was decent.

Truth be told, I tend to want to conserve my scrolls too badly for my own good. Had I blinked once more I could have still been alive (most likely).

Step From Time I did use three times in Elven 3, but the small rooms and high monster count (as well as priests being so damn slow) made it less effective than I could have been. Saved me a couple times, but didn't help me recover any.

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Post Friday, 22nd September 2017, 13:37

Re: GrFi of Cheibro Tank -- thoughts and advice

Alphaeus wrote:That said, +8 plate armor gave better AC


No. CPA has base armour 14 instead of plate's armour 10. That's +4 AC over +0 plate armour. You had Armour skill 13.9, that's another 2 AC (4*13.9/22). Finally with 4 scrolls of enchant armour you would have 2 more AC than in that +8 plate armour.
I often switch to lighter armour in Elf for resistances, I hate ring swapping and Elf really encourages having MR+++/rF+/rC+/rElec/rN+, even rPois is useful.
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