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Mines Malingerer

Posts: 48

Joined: Friday, 1st September 2017, 10:52

Post Friday, 15th September 2017, 21:57

What next? I dont want to die from hubris.

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Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.20.1 (tiles) character file.

Devastator the Blocker (Minotaur Berserker)         Turns: 6461, Time: 00:22:58

Health: 71/71      AC: 17    Str: 25    XL:     9   Next: 44%
Magic:  8/8        EV:  8    Int:  4    God:    Trog [****..]
Gold:   369        SH: 20    Dex: 10    Spells: 8/8 levels left

rFire    + . .     SeeInvis .   r - +1 trident (pierce)
rCold    + . .     Gourm    .   o - +2 large shield {reflect}
rNeg     . . .     Faith    .   j - +0 scale mail
rPois    .         Spirit   .   (helmet restricted)
rElec    .         Reflect  +   k - scarf {rC+ rF+}
rCorr    .         Harm     .   a - +0 pair of gloves
MR       .....     Clarity  +   (no boots)
Stlth    ..........             (no amulet)
Regen    0.3/turn               g - +1 ring of protection
MPRegen  0.2/turn               n - +6 ring of protection

@: studying Shields
A: retaliatory headbutt, horns 2, clarity
a: Berserk, Trog's Hand, Brothers in Arms, Burn Spellbooks, Renounce Religion


You are on level 7 of the Dungeon.
You worship Trog.
Trog is greatly pleased with you.
You are very hungry.

You have visited 1 branch of the dungeon, and seen 7 of its levels.
You have also visited: Bailey.

You have collected 369 gold pieces.

Inventory:

Hand Weapons
 r - a +1 trident of piercing (weapon)
 E - an enchanted spear
 F - a +0 executioner's axe of venom
Armour
 a - a +0 pair of gloves (worn)
 j - a +0 scale mail (worn)
 k - a scarf of resistance (worn)
 o - a +2 large shield of reflection (worn)
Jewellery
 g - a +1 ring of protection (left hand)
 n - a +6 ring of protection (right hand)
 v - an uncursed ring of ice
 w - an uncursed ring of positive energy
Wands
 b - a wand of digging (?/24)
 p - a wand of random effects (?/48)
 B - a wand of polymorph (?/24)
 D - a wand of flame (?/48)
Scrolls
 m - 2 scrolls of random uselessness
 q - 4 scrolls labeled MIHEFU BOIDYEDGH
 t - 2 scrolls of magic mapping
 u - 2 scrolls of fog
 x - a scroll labeled UTIC COCSOANWY
 y - a scroll labeled XYR XE LAFE
 z - a scroll labeled QEKHLU KANKI
Potions
 d - 2 potions of curing
 f - a glowing golden potion
 h - a glowing purple potion
 i - 2 potions of brilliance
 s - an amethyst potion
 A - a fizzy brown potion
Books
 C - a manual of Shields
Comestibles
 c - 7 bread rations
 l - a royal jelly


   Skills:
 - Level 3,8 Fighting
 - Level 5,4(5,6) Axes
 - Level 1,6(3,8) Polearms
 + Level 10,4 Armour
 - Level 2,1 Dodging
 - Level 0,1 Stealth
 - Level 10,6 Shields


You have 8 spell levels left.
You don't know any spells.

Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (7/15)             Temple (0/1) D:4         

Altars:
Ashenzari
Cheibriados
Elyvilon
Gozag
Nemelex Xobeh
Ru
Vehumet
Yredelemnul


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You reflexively headbutt those who attack you in melee.
You have a pair of horns on your head.
You possess an exceptional clarity of mind.


Message History

Trog accepts your kill.
Things that are here:
a flail; a plate armour; an orc corpse
You swap places.
Things that are here:
a dagger; a robe
Unknown command.
Unknown command.
You start resting.
Your ogre rages. x2
You are feeling hungry.
You start resting.
Your ogre rages. x3
Your ogre is no longer berserk.
Your ogre disappears in a puff of smoke!
You are feeling very hungry.
You start resting.
HP restored.
You start waiting.
Unknown command.

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There are no monsters in sight!

Vanquished Creatures
  The ghost of Deathstalker the Magician, an amateur DENe (D:4)
  A phantom (D:6)
  5 orc warriors (Bailey)
  An ice beast (D:3)
  3 ogres (D:4)
  4 centaurs (Bailey)
  A scorpion (D:6)
  2 crimson imps
  2 orc priests (D:4)
  2 hounds (D:5)
  An iguana (D:4)
  3 orc wizards
  2 worker ants
  Natasha (thrice) (D:3)
  A mummy (D:6)
  A howler monkey zombie (D:6)
  Robin (D:3)
  7 adders
  2 oozes
  2 worms (D:2)
  4 dart slugs
  5 leopard geckos
  54 orcs
  2 giant cockroaches
  2 gnoll zombies (D:5)
  20 goblins
  5 hobgoblins
  8 jackals
  6 quokkas
  3 ball pythons
  10 bats
  7 frilled lizards
  A hobgoblin zombie (D:6)
  5 kobolds
  2 kobold zombies (D:6)
  A leopard gecko skeleton (D:6)
  An orc zombie (D:6)
  8 rats
189 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (collateral kills)
  6 orc warriors
  An orc wizard (D:7)
  An orc (Bailey)
8 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (others)
  4 centaurs (Bailey)
  An orc (Bailey)
  A kobold (D:3)
6 creatures vanquished.

Grand Total: 203 creatures vanquished

Notes
Turn   | Place    | Note
-------+----------+-------------------------------------------
     0 | D:1      | Devastator the Minotaur Berserker began the quest for the Orb.
     0 | D:1      | Reached XP level 1. HP: 19/19 MP: 0/0
    91 | D:1      | Reached XP level 2. HP: 25/27 MP: 1/1
   673 | D:2      | Reached ** piety under Trog
   750 | D:2      | Found a shattered altar of Ashenzari.
   754 | D:2      | Reached XP level 3. HP: 33/33 MP: 2/2
   779 | D:2      | Reached skill level 5 in Axes
   988 | D:2      | Found a faded altar of an unknown god.
  1386 | D:2      | Reached skill level 1 in Shields
  1531 | D:2      | Reached XP level 4. HP: 40/40 MP: 3/3
  1774 | D:3      | Noticed Robin
  1787 | D:3      | Killed Robin
  2055 | D:3      | Noticed an ice beast
  2061 | D:3      | Killed an ice beast
  2061 | D:3      | Reached skill level 1 in Polearms
  2061 | D:3      | Reached XP level 5. HP: 46/46 MP: 4/4
  2064 | D:3      | Reached *** piety under Trog
  2217 | D:3      | Found a snail-covered altar of Cheibriados.
  2217 | D:3      | Found an opulent altar of Gozag.
  2238 | D:3      | Noticed Natasha
  2252 | D:3      | Killed Natasha
  2475 | D:3      | Reached skill level 5 in Shields
  2591 | D:3      | Reached XP level 6. HP: 51/52 MP: 5/5
  2600 | D:3      | Noticed Natasha
  2606 | D:3      | Killed Natasha
  2613 | D:3      | Noticed Natasha
  2623 | D:3      | Killed Natasha
  3003 | D:4      | Gained mutation: You possess an exceptional clarity of mind. [potion of mutation]
  3003 | D:4      | Lost mutation: You possess an exceptional clarity of mind. [potion of mutation]
  3003 | D:4      | Gained mutation: You possess an exceptional clarity of mind. [potion of mutation]
  3030 | D:4      | Reached **** piety under Trog
  3032 | D:4      | Reached XP level 7. HP: 29/58 MP: 6/6
  3048 | D:4      | Noticed Deathstalker's ghost (amateur DENe)
  3066 | D:4      | Killed Deathstalker's ghost
  3216 | D:4      | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple.
  3671 | D:4      | Found a sparkling altar of Nemelex Xobeh.
  4347 | D:5      | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
  4464 | D:5      | Found a sacrificial altar of Ru.
  4562 | D:5      | Found a radiant altar of Vehumet.
  4641 | D:5      | Found a white marble altar of Elyvilon.
  4734 | D:5      | Found a basalt altar of Yredelemnul.
  4887 | D:6      | Reached XP level 8. HP: 65/66 MP: 7/7
  4926 | D:6      | Reached skill level 10 in Shields
  5157 | D:6      | Reached ***** piety under Trog
  5273 | D:7      | Found a flagged portal.
  5299 | Bailey   | Entered a bailey
  5320 | Bailey   | Reached skill level 5 in Armour
  5693 | Bailey   | Reached XP level 9. HP: 55/71 MP: 8/8
  6018 | Bailey   | Reached skill level 10 in Armour

Skill      XL: |  1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9 |
---------------+----------------------------+-----
Axes           |  4     5                   |  5,4
Shields        |        1  4  5  7  9 10    | 10,6
Polearms       |           1                |  1,6
Armour         |                       8 10 | 10,4
Fighting       |                            |  3,8
Dodging        |                            |  2,1
Stealth        |                            |  0,1

Action                   |  1- 3 |  4- 6 |  7- 9 || total
-------------------------+-------+-------+-------++-------
Melee: Hand axe          |    73 |    57 |       ||   130
       Headbutt          |    13 |    25 |    53 ||    91
       Trident           |       |   110 |   368 ||   478
Invok: Brothers in Arms  |       |       |     4 ||     4
       Berserk           |       |       |     2 ||     2
       Trog's Hand       |       |       |     2 ||     2
  Use: Scroll            |       |     7 |     3 ||    10
       Potion            |       |     3 |     6 ||     9
 Stab: Sleeping          |       |     1 |       ||     1
  Eat: Chunk             |     1 |     5 |    11 ||    17
       Bread ration      |       |       |     1 ||     1
Armor: Animal skin       |    17 |    42 |    12 ||    71
       Scale mail        |       |       |    94 ||    94
Dodge: Dodged            |    50 |    37 |    87 ||   174
Block: Large shield      |    13 |   156 |   508 ||   677
       Reflection        |       |     2 |    33 ||    35

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Post Friday, 15th September 2017, 22:44

Re: What next? I dont want to die from hubris.

Wear heavier armour and wield a bigger weapon. Heck, start training weapon skill! Its super important. After that get some fighting.

Also dont listen to prophecies made by witchy redhaired women, and certainly dont travel north.

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Post Saturday, 16th September 2017, 04:01

Re: What next? I dont want to die from hubris.

Your skilling is a mess. Training up shields and Armour like that while you have almost no Fighting and weapon skill. Using a shield at all when you have a great one handed weapon and are a minotaur and have +6 AC ring.

At this point... use ctrl+F to see if there's a good one-handed weapon. If so, switch to it and train it 100%.
If not, switch to the best two-handed weapon (probably the exec axe) and train it 100%.

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Post Saturday, 16th September 2017, 04:07

Re: What next? I dont want to die from hubris.

IMO !h is fine, but definatly pick a weapon class and train it.
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Ziggurat Zagger

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Post Sunday, 17th September 2017, 06:49

Re: What next? I dont want to die from hubris.

Using an exec axe would be a mistake at this point IMHO. Slow and missing attacks with overkills
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Post Tuesday, 19th September 2017, 10:18

Re: What next? I dont want to die from hubris.

Most better players tend to have higher skill levels in their chosen mode of attack, than in defence. For a MiBe that would almost inevitably be a melee weapon skill.

I don't think there's anything particularly wrong with going 1-h / shield. Large shields are pretty powerful after all. But this character really needs to get better at killing things.

I like polearms, and although +1 trident of piercing isn't great, with MiBe it's probably enough. But you need some weapon skill! That said, if I found a good glaive or something, I might use that until I get a proper DTrident.

After that, get some ranged damage. Probably Evo is most versatile, but throwing is likely fine too.

Mines Malingerer

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Joined: Friday, 1st September 2017, 10:52

Post Tuesday, 19th September 2017, 14:57

Re: What next? I dont want to die from hubris.

This character got quite far, but now I am facing another decision.. how deep am i supposed to go down a ziggurat...

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Post Tuesday, 19th September 2017, 22:00

Re: What next? I dont want to die from hubris.

Depends. If you want to do a zig, keep going. If you want to win, just leave.

Based on the above character, I suspect that you don't have a full zig-kit. It takes quite a lot of XP with Mi to get some of the necessary (or at least very desirable) spells. Then again, I guess Zig's can be done with big Exec Axes...

Mines Malingerer

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Post Wednesday, 20th September 2017, 22:41

Re: What next? I dont want to die from hubris.

I got down to level 15 or so,not sure, and am quite sure that i can do 1 or 2 more. I guess that 4 pots of experience are enough of a reward to leave the damned thing alone.

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