Best god for deep elf conjurer?


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Mines Malingerer

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Post Friday, 1st September 2017, 10:54

Best god for deep elf conjurer?

I'd like to know what is the best god for de conjurer, got to d7 and temple, wearing +3 leather armor of poison resistance and +2 gloves, rings positive energy and loudness (do not wanna use my only remove curse scroll for it, since i am way more powerful than anything around me (killed some elf zombies in the ossuary)).

Ziggurat Zagger

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Post Friday, 1st September 2017, 11:07

Re: Best god for deep elf conjurer?

Vehumet is the best god IMHO. You can continue being conjurer (MP on kills), you will get many spells to choose from (gifts), earlier both strategically (wizardry) and tactically (extra range).
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Shoals Surfer

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Post Friday, 1st September 2017, 13:18

Re: Best god for deep elf conjurer?

I'm struggling to think of a sane reason to not take Kiku at temple on DE when not playing for score/turncount.

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Ziggurat Zagger

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Post Friday, 1st September 2017, 13:25

Re: Best god for deep elf conjurer?

NhorianScum wrote:I'm struggling to think of a sane reason to not take Kiku at temple on DE when not playing for score/turncount.


I wrote it.
You can continue being conjurer
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Post Friday, 1st September 2017, 13:26

Re: Best god for deep elf conjurer?

NhorianScum wrote:I'm struggling to think of a sane reason to not take Kiku at temple on DE when not playing for score/turncount.

Spending a game dealing with floor corpse management and ally managment doesn't sound like your cup of tea and you'd rather play a quicker game with SICK conjurations in which you are less likely to get tilted and lose due to your fury at kiku's inane corpse placement shenanigans on levels where the floor is crammed with items?

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Post Friday, 1st September 2017, 17:32

Re: Best god for deep elf conjurer?

The best choices are Kiku, Fedhas, Hepliaklqana, Gozag, Ru, and Nemelex.

Choices that are much worse but not completely awful: Makhleb, Yredelemnul, Elyvilon, Uskayaw, Dithmenos, Ashenzari, Sif Muna, Vehumet, Zin, Lugonu, Jiyva.

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Post Friday, 1st September 2017, 20:26

Re: Best god for deep elf conjurer?

duvessa wrote:The best choices are Kiku, Fedhas, Hepliaklqana, Gozag, Ru, and Nemelex.

The two of these that seem odd are Hepl and Gozag. Perhaps the +3 Spc and food shops are enough to mitigate chunkless spell hunger with Gozag, but can a DE really handle Hepl's Frail 1?
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Post Friday, 1st September 2017, 20:58

Re: Best god for deep elf conjurer?

Spell hunger doesn't matter, you aren't in any danger of running out of food with Gozag unless you're playing an ultra-slow troll or something. Frail isn't any worse for DE than it is for other species, and you get an ally immediately that makes up for it.

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Mines Malingerer

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Post Friday, 1st September 2017, 21:33

Re: Best god for deep elf conjurer?

In the end i picked gozag to buy some insane artifacts in shops,but died to a shaft that sent me from d11 to d14 and a horde of ugly things...got titled because i had access to like 50 different spells, including game-winning stuff.

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Post Saturday, 2nd September 2017, 06:37

Re: Best god for deep elf conjurer?

Fedhas is awful for DECj in temple. Fedhas is great for weak characters especially melee, you can fight along with mushrooms and even stab sometimes. Ranged characters can indefinitely fire missiles from behind mushroom shield. What is going a DECj going to do when MP are gone? Melee with low AC and HP? Retreat to restore MP and let all mushrooms die? Cj is especially bad because it already had a crowd control spell yet the spell becomes unusable due to mushrooms (IMB)
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Shoals Surfer

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Post Saturday, 2nd September 2017, 15:12

Re: Best god for deep elf conjurer?

Permanent overly buff allies and a sling/pole deal with low mp pretty easily...

Imb is awful. Force lance/searing ray/Prism all work very well with fed's shrooms and general terrain fuckery.

By the time you get big boy spells you're no longer using mushrooms heavily in my experience.

Early Fed is still really annoying to use x.x

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