YASD: GhIE^Ash, dogpile and immediate paralysis at Orc:1

[Lavandula]

This happened after going upstairs to isolated section of Orc:1.

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You suddenly lose the ability to move!
The orc warrior shouts!
The orc warrior shouts! The warg howls! You hear a shout! x3
The orc hits you but does no damage.
The orc wizard casts a spell.
The orc wizard blinks!
The orc sorcerer hits you but does no damage.
The orc hits you.
The orc warrior hits you from afar with a glaive!
The orc sorcerer hits you but does no damage.
The orc warrior hits you with a short sword of venom!
The orc wizard hits you but does no damage.
The orc hits you.
The orc warlord roars a battlecry!
The orcs go into a battle-frenzy!
The orc sorcerer mumbles some strange words.
The orc warrior hits you from afar with a glaive!!
The orc warrior hits you with a short sword of venom!
The orc warlord hits you with a battleaxe!!
You die...

https://underhound.eu:81/crawl/morgue/L ... 110952.txt
Thinking back about it, that character had a wand of digging and could approach that part of level from safer direction.

[VeryAngryFelid]

Entering Orc before Lair with no MR was a mistake IMHO.

[4Hooves2Appendages]

That's quite unfortunate.

Because of stuff like that I usually don't enter unexplored staircases of floors I've already been on. The first time you enter is different, because entering the first time only takes half the time, which usually means you get to act first.

In a recent game I went down to Spider:3 (I think), which turned out to be an isolated vault with a necromancer and a staircase on the other end. I never took the other stairs to explore the rest of the level, because I didn't feel strong enough for a bad ambush at the time.

As you said, digging can be good to avoid situations like that in Orc. I would also recommend casting Ozo's armour before using stairs.

Edit: Yeah, Lair first would've been better.

[Sprucery]

The first time you enter is different, because entering the first time only takes half the time, which usually means you get to act first.

I thought first action was guaranteed the first time. Has this been changed?

[4Hooves2Appendages]

The first time you enter is different, because entering the first time only takes half the time, which usually means you get to act first.

I thought first action was guaranteed the first time. Has this been changed?

It's possible that I don't understand this correctly. I'm fairly sure it takes 7.5 aut to enter a level for the first time. So I don't really know if any of the faster monsters could potentially get to act after that period.

According to the fairly recent link below you always get to act first on a new floor.

https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?p=303442#p303442

[VeryAngryFelid]

I thought first action was guaranteed the first time. Has this been changed?

No, it hasn't as far as I know.

after going upstairs to isolated section of Orc:1.

It is possible to get paralyzed instantly in this case because Orc:1 has already been visited before.