CIP: FeEn^Dith

Tuesday, 1st August 2017, 14:15 by Zhorgal

Hi,
Got a bit bored with all my NaFi^Gozag and decided to try something completely different.

Any advice related to skilling would be appreciated. Both deaths were due to stupidity.

Code:: Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.20.0 (tiles) character file. Suamp the Covert (Felid Enchanter) Turns: 18544, Time: 01:50:09 Health: 46/46 AC: 2 Str: 4 XL: 11 Next: 48% Magic: 19/19 EV: 27 Int: 22 God: Dithmenos [****..] Gold: 669 SH: 0 Dex: 18 Spells: 1/20 levels left Lives: 1 Deaths: 2 rFire + . . SeeInvis + - Unarmed rCold x . . Gourm . (shield unavailable) rNeg . . . Faith . (armour unavailable) rPois . Spirit . (helmet unavailable) rElec . Reflect . (cloak unavailable) rCorr . Harm . (gloves unavailable) MR +.... (boots unavailable) Stlth +++++++++. (no amulet) Regen 0.2/turn G - ring of fire MPRegen 0.2/turn E - +3 ring of intelligence @: wreathed by umbra, quick A: no armour, no weapons or thrown items, stealth, claws 1, fangs 3, see invisible, carnivore 3, speed 1, shaggy fur 2, slow metabolism 1, sharp paws a: Shadow Step, Renounce Religion You are in a volcano. You worship Dithmenos. Dithmenos is greatly pleased with you. You are completely stuffed. You have visited 2 branches of the dungeon, and seen 12 of its levels. You have also visited: Volcano. You have collected 669 gold pieces. Inventory: Jewellery e - a ring of ice l - an uncursed ring of ice m - an uncursed ring of flight E - a +3 ring of intelligence (right paw) G - a ring of fire (left paw) L - an uncursed ring of protection from cold Wands c - a wand of disintegration (10/24) w - a wand of lightning (?/15) y - a wand of digging (?/24) {recharged} C - a wand of lightning (?/15) F - a wand of acid (6/15) K - a wand of digging (?/24) Scrolls f - 3 scrolls of teleportation i - 2 scrolls of blinking j - a scroll of remove curse n - 2 scrolls of immolation q - 3 scrolls of magic mapping z - a scroll of recharging I - a scroll of identify Potions d - 4 potions of lignification {!q} g - 4 potions of agility h - a potion of mutation {!q} k - 2 fuming coppery potions o - a potion of heal wounds p - 2 puce potions r - 3 potions of resistance s - 7 potions of curing t - 2 cyan potions u - 3 potions of brilliance H - a metallic white potion Books a - a book of Maledictions Spells Type Level a - Corona Hexes 1 b - Ensorcelled Hibernation Hexes/Ice 2 c - Confuse Hexes 3 d - Tukima's Dance Hexes 3 e - Dazzling Spray Conjuration/Hexes 3 v - a book of Battle Spells Type Level a - Infusion Charms 1 b - Shroud of Golubria Charms/Translocation 2 c - Song of Slaying Charms 2 d - Spectral Weapon Hexes/Charms 3 e - Regeneration Charms/Necromancy 3 x - a book of Power Spells Type Level a - Iskenderun's Battlesphere Conjuration/Charms 5 b - Venom Bolt Conjuration/Poison 5 c - Bolt of Magma Conjuration/Fire/Earth 5 d - Iron Shot Conjuration/Earth 6 e - Orb of Destruction Conjuration 7 f - Spellforged Servitor Conjuration/Summoning 7 A - a book of Debilitation Spells Type Level a - Corona Hexes 1 b - Slow Hexes 2 c - Inner Flame Hexes/Fire 3 d - Portal Projectile Hexes/Translocation 3 e - Cause Fear Hexes 4 f - Leda's Liquefaction Hexes/Earth 4 B - a book of Minor Magic Spells Type Level a - Magic Dart Conjuration 1 b - Blink Translocation 2 c - Call Imp Summoning 2 d - Slow Hexes 2 e - Conjure Flame Conjuration/Fire 3 f - Mephitic Cloud Conjuration/Poison/Air 3 Comestibles b - 7 meat rations D - 15 royal jellies J - 6 chunks of flesh Skills: - Level 4,9 Fighting + Level 10,7 Dodging + Level 13,6 Stealth - Level 5,6 Unarmed Combat - Level 5,0 Spellcasting + Level 12,7 Hexes - Level 6,5 Translocations - Level 2,2 Invocations + Level 5,2 Evocations You have one spell level left. You know the following spells: Your Spells Type Power Failure Level Hunger a - Corona Hex ######. 1% 1 None b - Ensorcelled Hibernat Hex/Ice ####.. 1% 2 None c - Confuse Hex ######.. 1% 3 ##..... d - Tukima's Dance Hex ######.. 1% 3 ##..... e - Cause Fear Hex ######.... 1% 4 ####... f - Blink Tloc N/A 1% 2 None g - Shroud of Golubria Chrm/Tloc ###....... 4% 2 None h - Slow Hex ######.. 1% 2 None Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations Branches: Dungeon (8/15) Temple (0/1) D:6 Lair (4/6) D:8 Shoals (0/4) Lair:2 Snake: Lair:2-4 Spider: Lair:2-4 Altars: Cheibriados Dithmenos Hepliaklqana Kikubaaqudgha Makhleb Nemelex Xobeh Sif Muna Uskayaw Vehumet Xom The Shining One Annotations: D:2 Sigmund, Terence D:4 Blork the orc D:5 Grinder D:7 5 runed doors D:8 exclusion: door Lair:1 Gastronok Lair:2 !hydra Lair:3 1 exclusion, Rupert Lair:4 exclusion: oklob plant Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations You cannot wear armour. You are incapable of wielding weapons or throwing items. Your paws allow you to move quietly. (Stealth) You have sharp claws. You have razor-sharp teeth. You have supernaturally acute eyesight. (SInv) You are carnivorous and can eat meat at any time. You cover ground quickly. You are covered in thick fur. (AC +2) You have a slow metabolism. Your sharp claws are effective at attacking unaware monsters. Message History Some of the chunks of flesh in your inventory have rotted away. Found a dark tunnel. There is a dark tunnel here. Put on which piece of jewellery? (? for menu, Esc to quit) Okay, then. As you read the scroll of remove curse, it crumbles to dust. You feel as if something is helping you. Put on which piece of jewellery? (? for menu, Esc to quit) You're wearing all the rings you can. Remove which one? (? for menu, Esc to cancel) < or L - a ring of protection from cold; > or E - a +3 ring of intelligence You remove your ring of protection from cold. You feel more attuned to fire. G - a ring of fire (left paw) The world spins around you as you enter the gateway. You enter a volcano! Found a rocky tunnel leading out of this place. There is a rock-blocked tunnel here. There is a rock-blocked tunnel here. There is a rocky tunnel leading out of this place here. ##### #....## §§.....## ˜§§...#.## ## §§§§.....# ˜## §§˜˜..... #˜˜# §§§˜....## ##§˜˜## ˜˜˜˜˜....# ##§˜˜˜˜# §§˜.....######§§§..˜# ˜§§§.....#.##.@.§...# .......##......n...## .....## ###.......## ##.## ######### #. . There are no monsters in sight! Vanquished Creatures A black mamba (Lair:2) 7 spiny frogs 2 rime drakes 5 komodo dragons A troll (D:8) A polar bear (Lair:1) A queen bee (Lair:2) 3 hippogriffs 2 blink frogs (Lair:3) 12 yaks A hungry ghost (D:8) 4 porcupines (Lair:1) A sky beast (D:7) 2 water moccasins (Lair:3) A black bear (D:6) 2 ice beasts An orc warrior (D:6) A phantom (D:8) 7 centaurs 4 ogres 7 wolves 6 crocodiles A wyvern zombie (D:8) 4 bullfrogs A water moccasin skeleton (D:7) A water moccasin zombie (D:5) A scorpion (D:5) 24 killer bees (Lair:2) 2 electric eels (D:8) 3 howler monkeys 2 crimson imps (D:7) A bullfrog zombie (D:8) 3 jellies 10 hounds 4 orc priests A centaur skeleton (D:4) 5 orc wizards Natasha (twice) (D:3) 6 worker ants 4 iguanas 2 howler monkey zombies A worker ant zombie (D:5) 8 adders A gnoll (D:2) A howler monkey skeleton (D:8) An adder skeleton (D:6) An adder zombie (D:8) A worm (D:1) 5 dart slugs A leopard gecko (D:1) 19 orcs 7 bats 9 giant cockroaches 8 goblins 19 hobgoblins 6 jackals 6 kobolds 4 quokkas 3 ball pythons 8 frilled lizards A leopard gecko zombie (D:6) A quokka zombie (D:6) 7 rats A plant (Lair:1) 268 creatures vanquished. Vanquished Creatures (collateral kills) An ogre (D:8) An adder (D:6) 2 creatures vanquished. Vanquished Creatures (others) 7 fungi 9 plants 16 creatures vanquished. Grand Total: 286 creatures vanquished Notes Turn | Place | Note -------+----------+------------------------------------------- 0 | D:1 | Suamp the Felid Enchanter began the quest for the Orb. 0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 1. HP: 7/7 MP: 4/4 227 | D:1 | Reached XP level 2. HP: 11/11 MP: 6/6 231 | D:1 | Learned a level 2 spell: Ensorcelled Hibernation 608 | D:1 | Reached skill level 5 in Hexes 1252 | D:1 | Reached XP level 3. HP: 6/14 MP: 7/7 1750 | D:1 | Learned a level 3 spell: Confuse 1873 | D:2 | Found a shadowy altar of Dithmenos. 1894 | D:2 | Became a worshipper of Dithmenos the Shadowed 1971 | D:2 | Noticed Sigmund 2319 | D:2 | Found a deep blue altar of Sif Muna. 2439 | D:2 | Reached XP level 4. HP: 18/18 MP: 0/8 2833 | D:3 | Found a radiant altar of Vehumet. 2865 | D:3 | Noticed Natasha 2875 | D:3 | Killed Natasha 2875 | D:3 | Reached skill level 5 in Stealth 2959 | D:3 | Noticed Natasha 3023 | D:3 | Killed from afar by Natasha 3024 | D:3 | Reached XP level 3. HP: -1/14 MP: 6/7 3079 | D:2 | Noticed Terence 3184 | D:3 | Killed Natasha 3184 | D:3 | Reached XP level 4. HP: 17/18 MP: 3/8 3748 | D:3 | Reached * piety under Dithmenos 4101 | D:4 | Reached skill level 6 in Stealth 4117 | D:4 | Reached XP level 5. HP: 7/21 MP: 6/9 4261 | D:4 | Found a shimmering altar of Xom. 4300 | D:4 | Found a hazy altar of Hepliaklqana. 5533 | D:4 | Gained mutation: You are covered in thick fur. (AC +2) [Felid growth] 5533 | D:4 | Reached XP level 6. HP: 24/24 MP: 3/10 5809 | D:4 | Reached skill level 7 in Stealth 6279 | D:4 | Noticed Blork the orc 6429 | D:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon 6433 | D:5 | Noticed Grinder 6575 | D:5 | Reached XP level 7. HP: 27/27 MP: 12/12 6580 | D:5 | Learned a level 3 spell: Tukima's Dance 7266 | D:5 | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging 7536 | D:5 | Reached ** piety under Dithmenos 7561 | D:5 | HP: 1/27 [orc/flail (4)] 8085 | D:5 | Found a burning altar of Makhleb. 8518 | D:6 | Reached skill level 8 in Stealth 8850 | D:6 | Found a sparkling altar of Nemelex Xobeh. 9112 | D:6 | Reached XP level 8. HP: 26/31 MP: 5/13 9367 | D:6 | HP: 1/31 [black bear (6)] 9627 | D:6 | Reached skill level 9 in Stealth 9627 | D:6 | Reached skill level 10 in Hexes 10239 | D:6 | Reached skill level 10 in Stealth 10271 | D:6 | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple. 10527 | D:7 | Noticed a hand axe 10528 | D:7 | Noticed a dagger 10530 | D:7 | Found a hide-covered altar of Uskayaw. 10652 | D:7 | Learned a level 4 spell: Cause Fear 10700 | D:7 | Found a snail-covered altar of Cheibriados. 10909 | D:7 | Reached *** piety under Dithmenos 10909 | D:7 | Reached XP level 9. HP: 30/34 MP: 10/14 10928 | D:7 | Reached skill level 1 in Fighting 10950 | D:7 | Found a runed door. 10955 | D:7 | Found a runed gate. 10956 | D:7 | Found a runed door. 10966 | D:7 | Found a runed gate. 10966 | D:7 | Found a runed gate. 11122 | D:7 | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha. 11742 | D:7 | Learned a level 2 spell: Blink 11886 | D:8 | Reached skill level 5 in Spellcasting 12026 | D:8 | Found a glowing golden altar of the Shining One. 12075 | D:8 | Reached skill level 1 in Translocations 12350 | D:8 | Noticed a troll 12392 | D:8 | Killed a troll 12422 | D:8 | Found a staircase to the Lair. 12568 | D:8 | Learned a level 2 spell: Shroud of Golubria 12963 | D:8 | Reached skill level 11 in Stealth 13286 | Lair:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts 13286 | Lair:1 | Noticed a rime drake 13292 | Lair:1 | Killed a rime drake 13292 | Lair:1 | Reached XP level 10. HP: 42/42 MP: 18/18 13349 | Lair:1 | Noticed a six-headed hydra 13364 | Lair:1 | Slain by a six-headed hydra 13365 | Lair:1 | Reached XP level 9. HP: -3/38 MP: 6/17 13402 | Lair:1 | Noticed Gastronok 13454 | Lair:1 | Noticed a komodo dragon 13464 | Lair:1 | Killed a komodo dragon 13493 | Lair:1 | Noticed a spiny frog 13509 | Lair:1 | Killed a spiny frog 13551 | Lair:1 | Noticed a spiny frog 13557 | Lair:1 | Killed a spiny frog 13557 | Lair:1 | Reached skill level 5 in Translocations 13896 | Lair:1 | Noticed a spiny frog 13901 | Lair:1 | Killed a spiny frog 13901 | Lair:1 | Reached skill level 5 in Unarmed Combat 13916 | Lair:1 | Noticed a komodo dragon 14112 | Lair:1 | Killed a komodo dragon 14112 | Lair:1 | Reached XP level 10. HP: 43/43 MP: 13/18 14646 | Lair:2 | Found a staircase to the Shoals. 15193 | Lair:3 | Noticed Rupert 15264 | Lair:3 | Reached skill level 12 in Stealth 15264 | Lair:3 | Reached skill level 1 in Invocations 15336 | Lair:3 | Reached skill level 1 in Evocations 15456 | Lair:3 | Noticed a spiny frog 15469 | Lair:3 | Noticed a spiny frog 15621 | Lair:3 | Reached **** piety under Dithmenos 15847 | Lair:3 | Killed a spiny frog 15890 | Lair:3 | Killed a spiny frog 16017 | Lair:2 | Noticed a spiny frog 16022 | Lair:2 | Killed a spiny frog 16043 | Lair:2 | Found a deep blue altar of Sif Muna. 16307 | Lair:2 | Reached XP level 11. HP: 46/46 MP: 2/19 16715 | Lair:2 | Reached skill level 13 in Stealth 17004 | Lair:2 | Reached skill level 10 in Dodging 17905 | Lair:2 | Learned a level 2 spell: Slow 17944 | Lair:3 | Noticed a five-headed hydra 18145 | Lair:3 | Reached skill level 5 in Evocations 18441 | Lair:4 | Noticed an oklob plant 18513 | Lair:4 | Found a dark tunnel. 18524 | Volcano | Entered a volcano Skill XL: | 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 | ---------------+----------------------------------+----- Unarmed Combat | 2 5 | 5,6 Hexes | 5 6 7 8 9 12 | 12,7 Stealth | 6 7 8 10 11 12 13 | 13,6 Dodging | 3 4 5 8 9 10 | 10,7 Spellcasting | 3 5 | 5,0 Fighting | 4 | 4,9 Translocations | 5 6 | 6,5 Invocations | 2 | 2,2 Evocations | 3 5 | 5,2 Action | 1- 3 | 4- 6 | 7- 9 | 10-12 || total -------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------++------- Melee: Unarmed | 136 | 159 | 513 | 262 || 1070 Bite | 7 | 10 | 47 | 26 || 90 Punch | | 3 | 6 | 4 || 13 Cast: Corona | 4 | 2 | 4 | 25 || 35 Ensorcelled Hiber | 17 | 23 | 28 | 51 || 119 Confuse | 2 | 7 | 60 | 62 || 131 Tukima's Dance | | | 3 | || 3 Invok: Shadow Step | | | | 1 || 1 Use: Scroll | | 6 | 9 | 6 || 21 Potion | | 1 | 1 | || 2 Stab: Sleeping | 22 | 26 | 43 | 29 || 120 Distracted | 2 | | 5 | 2 || 9 Confused | 1 | 3 | 42 | 45 || 91 Eat: Chunk | 12 | 16 | 20 | 17 || 65 Armor: Skin | 3 | 2 | 9 | 1 || 15 Dodge: Dodged | 84 | 110 | 396 | 183 || 773

Tuesday, 1st August 2017, 14:23 by VeryAngryFelid

Don't train Hexes unless you have Invisibility somewhere. Train more Fighting/Dodging/UC. Stealth is low priority now IMHO.

Tuesday, 1st August 2017, 14:25 by Zhorgal

VeryAngryFelid wrote:Don't train Hexes unless you have Invisibility somewhere. Train more Fighting/Dodging/UC. Stealth is low priority now IMHO.

I thought it increased the probability of sticking Hexes to mobs.
Thanks. Will do.

Tuesday, 1st August 2017, 14:35 by 4Hooves2Appendages

It does, but with your current spell power you shouldn't have any huge problems. In the worst case you cast it a couple of times, then reset the fight if you have to. You are faster than many enemies after all, and very stealthy!

I would not routinely wander around with rC-. I'd probably swap the ring of fire to the rC+ one. You will get rC+ shortly, at which point you can more safely use the ring of fire.

Tuesday, 1st August 2017, 14:36 by VeryAngryFelid

Zhorgal wrote:I thought it increased the probability of sticking Hexes to mobs.

Yes, it does but the increase is quite small, late skill levels become much more expensive and you have more useful skills to train. As Felid you don't even need high success chance for Confuse, you can just retreat a bit and try again.
When playing En, my primary concern is what I am going to do with monsters who have high MR. So later you will need some of conjurations, summons, statue form etc.

Wednesday, 2nd August 2017, 12:50 by nublet

A (probably unnecessary) word of warning:
If you happen to shoot for statue form and want to use some other forms while it comes online (e.g. ice, hydra, and later, dragon), be careful! While the extra HP may seem a lot in comparison with your usual (but in absolute terms, it's about as much as a DE or halfling), you're hurting your EV and speed, which, for kitties are very important: you will possibly be even squishier than usual. Statue form instead doesn't change your size and you keep your EV, and I've found it to be quite useful even with the reduced speed.

Friday, 4th August 2017, 03:58 by WingedEspeon

My felid^dith run used damage spells from book of death for the mid game. I would recommend that if you happen to find the book of death or dispell undead/bolt of draining from other sources. I also used dragon form late game, although I hear statue form can be very good too. My experiance with dragon form was also very good, just don't use the breath. Just don't treat this like a gauid and wait the whole game to get these if they don't drop.

Friday, 4th August 2017, 09:30 by 4Hooves2Appendages

I had a Statue-cat a while ago and the damage felt pretty underwhelming. Is there any value in picking Str at level up, to get to 10 maybe?

I would usually recommend to branch into conjurations and/or summons/necromancy.

Friday, 4th August 2017, 11:08 by nago

I'm not sure and some code diving user could check this better, but I believe the melee damage penalities for str < 10 are not total negligible.

However that shouldn't be really noticeable with an high damage output as UC+statue form (at least if UC was high enough)

Friday, 4th August 2017, 11:34 by VeryAngryFelid

I remember some fsim for Str 4 cat in statue form, it was still much better than demon weapons with Str 10+, at least vs orb of fire.

Friday, 4th August 2017, 14:17 by nublet

A quick reminder that in 0.20 there was a rather obscure and sneaky change to form damage, in particular about bonus from stats:
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=23153
Just in case some of you had missed it (I had - it's absent from the changelog!)

Friday, 4th August 2017, 14:31 by 4Hooves2Appendages

So I guess low Str Fe forms do more damage now. Good for Fe. More Dex/Int!

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