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Cocytus Succeeder

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Post Sunday, 9th July 2017, 19:59

Funny death: killed by something dying off-screen

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Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.20.1-1-g8b1a95d (webtiles) character file.

770495 nago the Sniper (level 27, -4/188 HPs)
             Began as a Gargoyle Monk on July 8, 2017.
             Was the Champion of Cheibriados.
             Killed by something's death curse (28 damage)
             ... on level 3 of the Tomb of the Ancients on July 9, 2017.
             The game lasted 02:57:21 (82496 turns).

nago the Sniper (Gargoyle Monk)                    Turns: 82496, Time: 02:57:21

Health: -4/188     AC: 73    Str: 36      XL:     27
Magic:  0/40       EV: 23    Int: 31 (32) God:    Cheibriados [******]
Gold:   750        SH:  0    Dex: 23 (30) Spells: 15/52 levels left

rFire    + . .     SeeInvis .   b - +5 triple crossbow (freeze)
rCold    . . .     Gourm    .   (shield currently unavailable)
rNeg     + + +     Faith    +   w - +12 crystal plate armour
rPois    ∞         Spirit   +   X - +2 hat of the Bear Spirit {Spirit, +Rage rN+ MR++}
rElec    +         Reflect  .   P - +1 cloak {MR+}
rCorr    .         Harm     .   n - +2 pair of gloves
MR       +++++                  y - +2 pair of boots of the Assassin {Detection Stab+ Stlth++}
Stlth    ..........             S - amulet of faith {Faith, !P}
Regen    0.5/turn               p - +3 ring of evasion
MPRegen  0.3/turn               g - ring "Rouruog" {rN+ Slay+3, =R}

@: slowed, very slow
A: big wings, thin metallic scales 1, agile 1, fire resistance 1, negative
energy resistance 1, electricity resistance, unbreathing, petrification
resistance, rot immunity, AC +20
}: 4/15 runes: decaying, serpentine, slimy, silver
a: Fly, Bend Time, Temporal Distortion, Slouch, Step From Time, Renounce
Religion, Evoke Berserk Rage


You were on level 3 of the Tomb of the Ancients.
You worshipped Cheibriados.
Cheibriados was exalted by your worship.
You were completely stuffed.

You visited 12 branches of the dungeon, and saw 59 of its levels.
You visited the Abyss 1 time.
You also visited: Labyrinth, Ice Cave and Volcano.

You collected 8971 gold pieces.
You spent 8221 gold pieces at shops.


Full dump: https://underhound.eu:81/crawl/morgue/n ... 194400.txt

First time I die by something I hadn't even in the LOS!

I had entered for the 2nd time into W:3, and there was a lot of shit already waiting for me in LOS - multiple greaters mummies, lich and lesser undead. I started charming most of death scarabs and lesser undead; at some point I got also slowed and low of hitpoint so I decided to teleport away - at least left lung was almost clear from the previous trip so I had decent chances to get in a safe area - and I wasn't play to win or "optimally" anyway.

I actually ended in the unexplored right lung, but there was nobody except a phantasmal warrior, and with my defences thought it was safe enough to take a chei-step towards the exit, to burn a ?blink only the next turn if necessary.

My calculation were right, except one thing I didn't know: enslaved foes still attack or are attacked outside LOS, and give 2 turns to multiple mummies to kill and be killed at very low hp isn't good, because, guys, death curses suck.
screw it I hate this character I'm gonna go melee Gastronok

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Blades Runner

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Joined: Monday, 24th April 2017, 11:46

Post Sunday, 9th July 2017, 21:59

Re: Funny death: killed by something dying off-screen

Reminds me of something I read in Mr K's ancient DeFE diary, where he got killed in a Ziggurat by the damage mirror of an Unborn he fried with a fire storm off-screen. He never saw this feller. Good these things don't exist anymore, but there are still other monsters mirroring the damage you deal them...
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Abyss Ambulator

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Joined: Wednesday, 23rd April 2014, 21:57

Post Monday, 10th July 2017, 08:44

Re: Funny death: killed by something dying off-screen

This makes me wonder if allies (summons, undead, etc.) should just 'unravel' or 'fall apart' out of LOS, just like clouds. Thematically it would be easily justified. It would also weaken allies, although it would still be the strongest thing going I suspect.
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Blades Runner

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Post Monday, 10th July 2017, 09:33

Re: Funny death: killed by something dying off-screen

It is still possible that an ally just within LOS kills or damages a monster just without LOS. A better solution could be that monsters out of LOS cannot have any bad effect on the player.
Edit: Well, except silent spectres, and a few others I can't think of right now...
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Crypt Cleanser

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Post Tuesday, 11th July 2017, 10:59

Re: Funny death: killed by something dying off-screen

4Hooves2Appendages wrote:This makes me wonder if allies (summons, undead, etc.) should just 'unravel' or 'fall apart' out of LOS, just like clouds. Thematically it would be easily justified. It would also weaken allies, although it would still be the strongest thing going I suspect.

Summons and necro products already don't attack out of LOS. It's only enslaved real mosters that attack (this is a reason why the introduction of death scarabs made control undead a super-spell of the Tomb).

Abyss Ambulator

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Post Tuesday, 11th July 2017, 11:33

Re: Funny death: killed by something dying off-screen

Sure, but even just moving, or being, outside of LOS can be useful. You can use it to prevent enemies from getting into LOS for example.

About enslavement, again, the effect should just break outside of LOS, or at least substantially reduce the duration.

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