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Spider Stomper

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Joined: Tuesday, 21st February 2012, 21:32

Post Wednesday, 24th May 2017, 14:44

CIP NaIE - Still trying Ice Elementalists

I feel like I messed up this guy pretty hard. I went hard to the paint on Poison spells because of Naga aptitudes, but I have Snake and Swamp as my Lair branches, so I'm pretty sure I made a huge strategic blunder. I have a ton of spell options because I'm worshiping Sif Muna (BTW, I don't why would anyone worship Sif Muna. I'm only doing it to tick off the box. Who would ever play in such a way that some skill that you use when you are out of mana is your feature? Yuck.), so I can make whatever spell layout I want, but I don't know how to craft a nuker set that covers all my bases with rPois, and undead, and crowds, etc.

I've avoided committing to a weapon, because I don't think this great sword is endgame quality, and I sort of assumed I would want to go elemental staff at some point, although maybe that's wrong, but I did put in a little bit so I wouldn't have such an atrocious 1.7 swing speed. I feel like that's more XP I put into the dumpster fire tho.

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 Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.19.5 (webtiles) character file.

ddubois the Thaumaturge (Naga Ice Elementalist)    Turns: 48248, Time: 05:38:03

Health: 132/159    AC: 18    Str: 12    XL:     17   Next: 87%
Magic:  48/51      EV: 18    Int: 21    God:    Sif Muna [*****.]
Gold:   801        SH:  0    Dex: 16    Spells: 10 memorised, 1 level left

rFire  + . .      SeeInvis +    N - +1 great sword of the Madman {slice, rF+ MR+ Dex+4}
rCold  . . .      Gourm    +    Z - +2 robe {Archmagi}
rNeg   . . .      Faith    .    (shield currently unavailable)
rPois  +          Spirit   .    F - +1 helmet
rElec  .          Reflect  .    a - +2 cloak {rPois} {rPois}
rCorr  .          Harm     .    A - +2 pair of gloves
MR     +++..      Clarity  +    (no barding)
Stlth  +++.......               y - amulet of the gourmand
                                J - ring of Thoughtfulness {rPois MP+9}
                                G - ring of magical power {MP+9}

@: very slow
A: see invisible, clarity, deformed body, poison resistance, slowness 2, slow
metabolism 1, spit poison 1, constrict 1, AC +5
a: Spit Poison, Divine Energy, Channel Magic, Forget Spell, Renounce Religion


You are on level 1 of the Elven Halls.
You worship Sif Muna.
Sif Muna is extremely pleased with you.
You are not hungry.

You have visited 7 branches of the dungeon, and seen 29 of its levels.
You have also visited: Sewer and Ice Cave.

You have collected 2499 gold pieces.
You have spent 1698 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Hand Weapons
 N - the +1 great sword of the Madman (weapon) {slice, rF+ MR+ Dex+4}
   (You took it off a centaur on level 8 of the Dungeon)   
   
   It inflicts extra damage upon your enemies.
   
   It affects your dexterity (+4).
   It protects you from fire.
   It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments.
Missiles
 b - 9 javelins
 s - 32 tomahawks (quivered)
 U - 3 throwing nets {=f}
Armour
 a - a +2 cloak of poison resistance (worn) {rPois}
 A - a +2 pair of gloves (worn)
 F - a +1 helmet (worn)
 Z - a +2 robe of the Archmagi (worn)
Jewellery
 k - an uncursed amulet of rage
 v - an uncursed ring of protection from cold
 y - an amulet of the gourmand (around neck)
 G - a ring of magical power (left hand) {MP+9}
 J - the ring of Thoughtfulness (right hand) {rPois MP+9}
   (You took it off a wight on level 7 of the Dungeon)   
   
   [ring of magical power]
   
   It protects you from poison.
   It affects your magic capacity (+9).
 Y - an uncursed ring of resist corrosion
Wands
 d - a wand of disintegration
 q - a wand of polymorph {zapped: 2}
 w - a wand of iceblast
 B - a wand of lightning (9/15)
 C - a wand of paralysis
 T - a wand of teleportation (3/9)
 W - a wand of confusion
Scrolls
 e - a scroll of fear
 g - a scroll of holy word {!r}
 n - 2 scrolls of remove curse
 o - 6 scrolls of fog
 r - 3 scrolls of recharging
 t - a scroll of teleportation
 u - 4 scrolls of blinking {!r}
 z - 2 scrolls of magic mapping {!r}
 D - a scroll of brand weapon
 H - 4 scrolls of identify
 M - a scroll of torment {!r}
 R - a scroll of enchant armour
 V - a scroll of silence
 X - 2 scrolls of amnesia
Potions
 c - a potion of agility
 f - 4 potions of brilliance
 h - 4 potions of lignification {!q}
 i - a potion of might
 p - 12 potions of curing
 I - 2 red potions
 O - 9 potions of flight
 P - a potion of heal wounds
Books
 Q - a book of Alchemy
Miscellaneous
 j - a disc of storms
 x - a lamp of fire (inert)
Comestibles
 l - 7 meat rations
 m - 14 beef jerkies
 E - 2 slices of pizza


   Skills:
 * Level 11.9 Fighting
 - Level 8.0 Long Blades
 - Level 8.0 Armour
 - Level 12.0 Dodging
 - Level 4.0 Stealth
 + Level 12.1 Spellcasting
 - Level 12.0 Conjurations
 - Level 6.7 Summonings
 - Level 4.0 Fire Magic
 - Level 8.0 Ice Magic
 - Level 11.0 Poison Magic
 - Level 8.0 Invocations


You have one spell level left.
You know the following spells:

 Your Spells              Type           Power        Failure   Level  Hunger
a - Poison Arrow          Conj/Pois      ######....   10%         6    #####..
b - Alistair's Intoxicat  Tmut/Pois      ######..     17%         5    ####...
d - Summon Ice Beast      Ice/Summ       ######..     2%          4    None
h - Olgreb's Toxic Radia  Pois           ######..     1%          4    None
i - Animate Skeleton      Necr           N/A          6%          1    None
j - Mephitic Cloud        Conj/Pois/Air  ######..     1%          3    None
k - Venom Bolt            Conj/Pois      ######....   1%          5    ####...
s - Sticky Flame          Conj/Fire      ######..     1%          4    None
x - Iskenderun's Mystic   Conj           #######.     1%          4    None
A - Ozocubu's Armour      Chrm/Ice       #####...     2%          3    None


Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (15/15)            Temple (1/1) D:7            Lair (6/6) D:10
  Swamp (2/4) Lair:3        Snake (1/4) Lair:2        Slime (0/5) Lair:5
    Orc (2/2) D:12            Elf (2/3) Orc:2        Vaults (0/5) D:13
 Depths (0/5) D:15       

Altars:
Ashenzari
Cheibriados
Dithmenos
Elyvilon
Fedhas
Gozag
Hepliaklqana
Kikubaaqudgha
Makhleb
Nemelex Xobeh
Okawaru
Qazlal
Ru
Sif Muna
Trog
Uskayaw
Vehumet
Xom
Yredelemnul
Zin
The Shining One
Beogh
Jiyva

Shops:
D:8 :   Orc:2 [?*:!   Elf:1 :   Elf:2 *

Portals:
Trove: D:11 (give 17 potions of curing)

Annotations:
Swamp:1 Aizul
Elf:2 3 runed doors


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You cannot wear boots.
Your serpentine skin is tough. (AC +5)
You have supernaturally acute eyesight. (SInv)
Armour fits poorly on your strangely shaped body.
Your system is resistant to poisons. (rPois)
You cover ground very slowly.
You have a slow metabolism.
You can spit poison.
You can use your snake-like lower body to constrict enemies.
You possess an exceptional clarity of mind.


Message History

The deep elf mage shouts!
The deep elf mage casts a spell.
Aim: a deep elf mage, wielding a rapier
You feel a surge of power!
The sticky flame hits the deep elf mage.
The deep elf mage is covered in liquid flames!
The deep elf mage burns!
The deep elf mage hits you but does no damage.
You now have 47/51 mp.
You slice the deep elf mage!!
You kill the deep elf mage!
The earth elemental disappears in a puff of smoke! x2
You see here a rapier.
Search for what [Enter for "gour", or ? for help]? long
Search for what [Enter for "long", or ? for help]? long&&brand
Search for what [Enter for "long&&brand", or ? for help]? art
Search for what [Enter for "art", or ? for help]? artif
Saving game... please wait.
Welcome back, ddubois the Naga Ice Elementalist.
Sif Muna whispers: I know many secrets...

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There are no monsters in sight!

Notes
Turn   | Place    | Note
-------+----------+-------------------------------------------
     0 | D:1      | ddubois the Naga Ice Elementalist began the quest for the Orb.
     0 | D:1      | Reached XP level 1. HP: 15/15 MP: 3/3
   290 | D:1      | Reached XP level 2. HP: 20/22 MP: 0/5
   707 | D:1      | Reached skill level 4 in Ice Magic
   775 | D:1      | Reached XP level 3. HP: 20/28 MP: 4/6
  1583 | D:2      | Reached XP level 4. HP: 26/36 MP: 2/7
  1829 | D:2      | Reached skill level 5 in Ice Magic
  2490 | D:3      | Learned a level 2 spell: Throw Frost
  2494 | D:3      | Learned a level 3 spell: Ozocubu's Armour
  2612 | D:3      | Reached XP level 5. HP: 40/42 MP: 4/8
  2921 | D:3      | Noticed Ijyb
  2933 | D:3      | Killed Ijyb
  2936 | D:2      | Found a shadowy altar of Dithmenos.
  2936 | D:2      | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha.
  3204 | D:3      | Noticed Robin
  3396 | D:3      | Killed Robin
  3525 | D:3      | Reached skill level 6 in Ice Magic
  3664 | D:3      | Reached XP level 6. HP: 49/49 MP: 8/10
  3820 | D:3      | Reached skill level 3 in Spellcasting
  4292 | D:3      | Learned a level 4 spell: Summon Ice Beast
  4493 | D:4      | Found a snail-covered altar of Cheibriados.
  4722 | D:4      | Noticed a phantom
  4793 | D:4      | Killed a phantom
  4793 | D:4      | Reached skill level 1 in Summonings
  4823 | D:4      | Noticed a phantom
  4848 | D:4      | Killed a phantom
  4848 | D:4      | Reached XP level 7. HP: 43/55 MP: 8/12
  4882 | D:4      | Found a glowing drain.
  4886 | Sewer    | Entered a sewer
  4958 | Sewer    | Reached skill level 2 in Summonings
  5421 | Sewer    | Reached skill level 4 in Spellcasting
  5425 | Sewer    | Reached skill level 3 in Summonings
  5723 | D:4      | Reached skill level 7 in Ice Magic
  5912 | D:4      | Reached XP level 8. HP: 41/62 MP: 8/14
  6325 | D:4      | Learned a level 4 spell: Throw Icicle
  6698 | D:4      | Noticed Pikel
  6713 | D:4      | Killed Pikel
  6713 | D:4      | Reached skill level 5 in Spellcasting
  6713 | D:4      | Reached skill level 2 in Conjurations
  6713 | D:4      | Reached skill level 4 in Summonings
  7009 | D:5      | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
  7465 | D:5      | Found a shimmering altar of Xom.
  7555 | D:5      | Reached skill level 3 in Conjurations
  7928 | D:5      | Reached skill level 8 in Ice Magic
  7928 | D:5      | Reached XP level 9. HP: 62/68 MP: 9/17
  7934 | D:5      | Learned a level 4 spell: Sticky Flame
  8069 | D:5      | Reached skill level 5 in Summonings
  8561 | D:5      | Reached skill level 4 in Stealth
  9394 | D:5      | Reached skill level 1 in Fire Magic
  9628 | D:6      | Reached skill level 2 in Fire Magic
 10039 | D:6      | Reached skill level 4 in Conjurations
 10039 | D:6      | Reached skill level 3 in Fire Magic
 10302 | D:6      | Reached skill level 6 in Spellcasting
 10667 | D:7      | Reached skill level 4 in Fire Magic
 10839 | D:7      | Found a blossoming altar of Fedhas.
 10857 | D:7      | Reached skill level 5 in Conjurations
 11127 | D:7      | Reached skill level 6 in Conjurations
 11292 | D:7      | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple.
 11298 | Temple   | Entered the Ecumenical Temple
 11435 | Temple   | Became a worshipper of Sif Muna the Loreminder
 11538 | D:7      | Noticed a cyclops
 11598 | D:7      | Found a glowing silver altar of Zin.
 11647 | D:6      | Reached XP level 10. HP: 51/75 MP: 14/20
 11837 | D:7      | Noticed a seven-headed hydra
 11844 | D:7      | Killed a seven-headed hydra
 11844 | D:7      | Reached skill level 7 in Spellcasting
 11929 | D:7      | Reached * piety under Sif Muna
 11958 | D:7      | Got a flickering jade ring
 11959 | D:7      | Identified the ring of Thoughtfulness {rPois MP+9} (You took it off a wight on level 7 of the Dungeon)
 12066 | D:7      | Noticed a five-headed hydra
 12121 | D:8      | Noticed Erica
 12131 | D:8      | Noticed Prince Ribbit
 12141 | D:7      | Killed Erica
 12141 | D:7      | Reached skill level 8 in Spellcasting
 12518 | D:8      | Killed Prince Ribbit
 12533 | D:8      | Reached skill level 9 in Spellcasting
 12539 | D:8      | Learned a level 3 spell: Mephitic Cloud
 12619 | D:8      | Learned a level 4 spell: Olgreb's Toxic Radiance
 12643 | D:8      | Learned a level 1 spell: Animate Skeleton
 12645 | D:8      | Learned a level 1 spell: Apportation
 12861 | D:8      | Reached skill level 1 in Poison Magic
 13014 | D:8      | Reached skill level 2 in Poison Magic
 13234 | D:8      | Reached skill level 3 in Poison Magic
 13236 | D:8      | Got a transparent great sword {slice}
 13237 | D:8      | Identified the cursed +1 great sword of the Madman {slice, rF+ MR+ Dex+4} (You took it off a centaur on level 8 of the Dungeon)
 13267 | D:8      | Found Gyipibla's Book Boutique.
 13335 | D:9      | Reached ** piety under Sif Muna
 13405 | D:9      | Reached skill level 4 in Poison Magic
 13725 | D:9      | Reached skill level 5 in Poison Magic
 13981 | D:9      | Reached skill level 6 in Poison Magic
 13996 | D:9      | Reached XP level 11. HP: 52/81 MP: 2/24
 14217 | D:9      | Found a stormy altar of Qazlal.
 14551 | D:9      | Reached *** piety under Sif Muna
 14551 | D:9      | Reached skill level 7 in Poison Magic
 14815 | D:10     | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon
 15018 | D:10     | Found a staircase to the Lair.
 15151 | D:10     | Reached skill level 10 in Spellcasting
 15161 | D:10     | Reached skill level 8 in Poison Magic
 15249 | D:10     | You fall through a shaft!
 15451 | D:10     | Reached **** piety under Sif Muna
 15950 | D:10     | Reached skill level 11 in Spellcasting
 15957 | D:10     | Learned a level 5 spell: Venom Bolt
 16136 | D:11     | Noticed Urug
 16231 | D:11     | Noticed a vault guard
 16277 | D:11     | Killed a vault guard
 16277 | D:11     | Reached skill level 1 in Fighting
 16277 | D:11     | Reached skill level 1 in Armour
 16277 | D:11     | Reached skill level 2 in Dodging
 16285 | D:11     | Killed Urug
 16285 | D:11     | Reached skill level 2 in Fighting
 16452 | D:11     | Found a portal to a secret trove of treasure.
 16622 | D:11     | Noticed dylex's ghost (journeyman KoHu)
 16672 | Lair:1   | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts
 16808 | Lair:1   | Reached skill level 2 in Armour
 16970 | Lair:1   | Noticed a six-headed hydra
 16979 | Lair:1   | Killed a six-headed hydra
 16979 | Lair:1   | Reached skill level 3 in Fighting
 16979 | Lair:1   | Reached skill level 3 in Dodging
 17139 | Lair:1   | Reached XP level 12. HP: 46/97 MP: 2/27
 17250 | Lair:1   | Reached skill level 1 in Invocations
 17322 | Lair:1   | Reached skill level 3 in Armour
 17418 | Lair:1   | Reached skill level 4 in Fighting
 17571 | Lair:1   | Noticed a seven-headed hydra
 17577 | Lair:1   | Killed a seven-headed hydra
 17577 | Lair:1   | Reached skill level 2 in Invocations
 18034 | Lair:2   | Noticed Gastronok
 18050 | Lair:2   | Killed Gastronok
 18050 | Lair:2   | Reached skill level 4 in Dodging
 18050 | Lair:2   | Reached skill level 7 in Conjurations
 18251 | Lair:2   | Reached skill level 3 in Invocations
 19010 | Lair:2   | Found a staircase to the Snake Pit.
 19052 | Lair:2   | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting
 19136 | Lair:2   | Noticed a five-headed hydra
 19141 | Lair:2   | Killed a five-headed hydra
 19141 | Lair:2   | Reached skill level 4 in Armour
 19141 | Lair:2   | Reached skill level 4 in Invocations
 19302 | Lair:3   | Noticed Rupert
 19355 | Lair:3   | Killed Rupert
 19355 | Lair:3   | Reached skill level 9 in Poison Magic
 19810 | Lair:3   | Gained mutation: You can use your snake-like lower body to constrict enemies. [Naga growth]
 19810 | Lair:3   | Reached XP level 13. HP: 110/110 MP: 23/28
 20279 | Lair:3   | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging
 20330 | Lair:3   | Reached skill level 5 in Invocations
 20518 | Lair:3   | Reached skill level 8 in Conjurations
 20526 | Lair:3   | Reached skill level 5 in Armour
 20713 | Lair:3   | Found a staircase to the Swamp.
 20817 | Lair:3   | Reached skill level 6 in Fighting
 21951 | Lair:4   | Noticed Kirke
 22156 | Lair:4   | Killed Kirke
 22179 | Lair:5   | Found a staircase to the Slime Pits.
 22179 | Lair:5   | Found a viscous altar of Jiyva.
 22417 | Lair:5   | Reached skill level 6 in Armour
 22418 | Lair:5   | Reached skill level 6 in Invocations
 23131 | Lair:5   | Reached skill level 6 in Dodging
 23645 | Lair:6   | Entered Level 6 of the Lair of Beasts
 23926 | Lair:6   | Got a pitted flail
 23927 | Lair:6   | Identified the +5 flail "Yrewoq Puce" {pain, rElec rC+ Stlth+} (You found it on level 6 of the Lair of Beasts)
 24004 | Lair:6   | Reached skill level 9 in Conjurations
 24291 | Lair:6   | Reached XP level 14. HP: 83/121 MP: 3/29
 24454 | Lair:6   | Reached skill level 7 in Fighting
 24753 | Lair:6   | Reached skill level 7 in Invocations
 24846 | Lair:6   | Reached skill level 7 in Armour
 25741 | Lair:6   | Reached skill level 7 in Dodging
 26356 | D:11     | Killed dylex's ghost
 26569 | D:11     | Reached ***** piety under Sif Muna
 26569 | D:11     | Identified Xyddah's Almanac of Supportive Conjuration (Sif Muna gifted it to you on level 11 of the Dungeon)
 26569 | D:11     | Received a gift from Sif Muna
 26641 | D:11     | Noticed Harold
 26652 | D:11     | Killed Harold
 26652 | D:11     | Reached skill level 8 in Invocations
 26803 | D:12     | Reached skill level 8 in Fighting
 27010 | D:12     | Noticed Josephine
 27018 | D:12     | Killed Josephine
 27031 | D:12     | Reached skill level 10 in Conjurations
 27044 | D:12     | Reached skill level 1 in Long Blades
 27288 | D:12     | Reached skill level 2 in Long Blades
 27623 | D:12     | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines.
 27640 | D:12     | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh.
 27716 | Orc:1    | Entered Level 1 of the Orcish Mines
 27716 | Orc:1    | Noticed Maurice
 27731 | Orc:1    | Killed Maurice
 27736 | Orc:1    | Reached skill level 3 in Long Blades
 27857 | Orc:1    | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh.
 28108 | Orc:2    | Entered Level 2 of the Orcish Mines
 28311 | Orc:2    | Found a staircase to the Elven Halls.
 28318 | Orc:2    | Noticed Snorg
 28326 | Orc:2    | Killed Snorg
 28326 | Orc:2    | Reached skill level 4 in Long Blades
 28326 | Orc:2    | Reached skill level 8 in Armour
 28473 | Orc:2    | Found Ykkuucoa's Antique Armour Shoppe.
 28474 | Orc:2    | Noticed Sonja
 28475 | Orc:2    | Noticed Sonja
 28475 | Orc:2    | Sonja changed into Sonja the hog
 28480 | Orc:2    | Killed Sonja the hog
 28486 | Orc:2    | Bought a faintly glowing ring mail for 315 gold pieces
 28503 | Orc:2    | Identified the +3 ring mail "Ysyc" {Dex+3} (You bought it in a shop on level 2 of the Orcish Mines)
 28656 | Orc:2    | Reached XP level 15. HP: 36/132 MP: 11/30
 29005 | Orc:2    | Reached skill level 5 in Long Blades
 29005 | Orc:2    | Reached skill level 8 in Dodging
 29331 | Orc:2    | Found Yraeq's Distillery.
 29331 | Orc:2    | Found Ulaonur's Magic Scroll Boutique.
 29338 | Orc:2    | Found Iboluc's General Store.
 29338 | Orc:2    | Found Silakido's Book Emporium.
 29346 | Orc:2    | Bought a scroll of immolation for 49 gold pieces
 29353 | Orc:2    | Bought a potion of curing for 42 gold pieces
 29353 | Orc:2    | Bought a potion of curing for 42 gold pieces
 29353 | Orc:2    | Bought a potion of curing for 42 gold pieces
 29382 | Orc:2    | Bought a scroll of acquirement for 728 gold pieces
 29409 | Orc:2    | Reached skill level 6 in Long Blades
 30762 | D:13     | Reached skill level 7 in Long Blades
 30989 | D:13     | Reached skill level 8 in Long Blades
 31084 | D:13     | Reached skill level 9 in Dodging
 31100 | D:13     | Found a gate to the Vaults.
 31184 | D:13     | Got an ichor-stained battleaxe {elec}
 31185 | D:13     | Identified the +6 battleaxe "Emeuriqe" {elec, rN+} (You took it off a human on level 13 of the Dungeon)
 31390 | D:13     | Identified a potion of beneficial mutation
 31391 | D:13     | Gained mutation: You possess an exceptional clarity of mind. [potion of beneficial mutation]
 32675 | D:13     | Identified Kefi's Handbook of Spatial Confrontation (Sif Muna gifted it to you on level 13 of the Dungeon)
 32675 | D:13     | Received a gift from Sif Muna
 32761 | D:13     | Learned a level 4 spell: Iskenderun's Mystic Blast
 32832 | D:14     | Reached skill level 10 in Dodging
 32844 | D:14     | HP: 23/132 [brown ugly thing (14)]
 32849 | D:14     | HP: 9/132 [brown ugly thing (17)]
 32849 | D:14     | HP: 2/132 [acid (7)]
 33336 | D:15     | Entered Level 15 of the Dungeon
 33359 | D:15     | HP: 22/132 [cyan ugly thing (15)]
 34145 | D:15     | Found a staircase to the Depths.
 34150 | D:15     | Reached XP level 16. HP: 71/140 MP: 31/31
 34366 | D:15     | Reached skill level 11 in Dodging
 35178 | D:15     | HP: 35/140 [white ugly thing (4)]
 35607 | D:15     | Reached skill level 12 in Dodging
 35930 | D:14     | Paralysed by a floating eye for 4 turns
 36299 | D:14     | Reached skill level 9 in Fighting
 36474 | D:14     | Identified a potion of cure mutation
 36480 | D:14     | Identified an amulet of magic regeneration (You took it off a centaur on level 15 of the Dungeon)
 36492 | D:14     | Identified a scroll of fear
 36931 | D:13     | Learned a level 7 spell: Spellforged Servitor
 37736 | Swamp:1  | Entered Level 1 of the Swamp
 38141 | Swamp:1  | Reached skill level 6 in Summonings
 38482 | Swamp:1  | Identified Sif Muna's Guide on Earthen Envenoming (Sif Muna gifted it to you on level 1 of the Swamp)
 38482 | Swamp:1  | Received a gift from Sif Muna
 39151 | Swamp:1  | Identified a ring of intelligence (You found it on level 1 of the Swamp)
 39294 | Swamp:1  | Noticed a thorn hunter
 39318 | Swamp:1  | Reached skill level 10 in Fighting
 39542 | Swamp:1  | Killed a thorn hunter
 39728 | Swamp:1  | Got a jewelled whip
 39734 | Swamp:1  | Got a polished leather armour
 39737 | Swamp:1  | Identified the +1 leather armour of Lemecaesm {rElec} (You found it on level 1 of the Swamp)
 39738 | Swamp:1  | Identified a scroll of holy word
 39739 | Swamp:1  | Identified 3 scrolls of recharging
 39744 | Swamp:1  | Identified the cursed +2 whip "Wuips" {antimagic, *Noise MR+ Int+5 Stlth+} (You found it on level 1 of the Swamp)
 39837 | Swamp:1  | You fall through a shaft!
 39871 | Swamp:2  | Noticed Nikola
 39905 | Swamp:2  | Killed Nikola
 39966 | Swamp:2  | Found a frozen archway.
 39988 | IceCv    | Entered an ice cave
 40001 | IceCv    | Identified a +2 cloak of poison resistance (You took it off Nikola on level 2 of the Swamp)
 40150 | IceCv    | Learned a level 6 spell: Poison Arrow
 40160 | IceCv    | Identified a +2 robe of the Archmagi (You took it off an orc sorcerer on level 2 of the Orcish Mines)
 40476 | IceCv    | Reached skill level 11 in Conjurations
 41504 | IceCv    | Reached XP level 17. HP: 141/154 MP: 14/32
 42965 | IceCv    | Identified a +1 plate armour of cold resistance (You found it in an ice cave)
 42978 | IceCv    | Got an encrusted ring mail
 42989 | IceCv    | Identified the +3 ring mail of Decompression {rCorr Dex+4} (You found it in an ice cave)
 43001 | IceCv    | Got an ancient broad axe
 43002 | IceCv    | Identified the cursed +1 broad axe of Hekkekoe {venom, *Contam Dex+4 SInv} (You found it in an ice cave)
 43542 | Swamp:2  | Noticed Frances
 43558 | Swamp:2  | Killed Frances
 43558 | Swamp:2  | Reached skill level 11 in Fighting
 43751 | Swamp:2  | Noticed Aizul
 43769 | Swamp:1  | HP: 38/157 [poisoned by Aizul (poison arrow)]
 43774 | Swamp:1  | HP: 36/157 [poisoned by Aizul (poison arrow)]
 43779 | Swamp:1  | HP: 34/157 [poisoned by Aizul (poison arrow)]
 43784 | Swamp:1  | HP: 34/157 [poisoned by Aizul (poison arrow)]
 43789 | Swamp:1  | HP: 33/157 [poisoned by Aizul (poison arrow)]
 43797 | Swamp:1  | HP: 34/157 [poisoned by Aizul (poison arrow)]
 44456 | Snake:1  | Entered Level 1 of the Snake Pit
 45118 | Elf:1    | Entered Level 1 of the Elven Halls
 45556 | Elf:1    | Noticed a deep elf sorcerer
 45562 | Elf:1    | Reached skill level 10 in Poison Magic
 45564 | Elf:1    | Killed a deep elf sorcerer
 45857 | Elf:1    | Found Cobull's Book Shop.
 46280 | Elf:1    | Identified Sif Muna's Foundations of Rites and Rhymes (Sif Muna gifted it to you on level 1 of the Elven Halls)
 46280 | Elf:1    | Received a gift from Sif Muna
 46649 | Elf:1    | Identified a +2 plate armour of magic resistance (You found it on level 1 of the Elven Halls)
 47012 | Elf:1    | Reached skill level 11 in Poison Magic
 47132 | Elf:2    | Reached skill level 12 in Conjurations
 47148 | Elf:2    | Reached skill level 12 in Spellcasting
 47379 | Elf:2    | Found Maad's Assorted Antiques.
 47393 | Elf:2    | Learned a level 5 spell: Alistair's Intoxication
 47409 | Elf:2    | Bought a worn bronze wand for 96 gold pieces
 47409 | Elf:2    | Bought a leatherbound book for 360 gold pieces
 47409 | Elf:2    | Bought a scroll labeled PESHYO CIGYEJE for 24 gold pieces
 47545 | Elf:2    | HP: 37/158 [hand axe of chopping (11)]
 47550 | Elf:2    | HP: 29/158 [hand axe of chopping (3)]
 47566 | Elf:2    | HP: 20/159 [deep elf mage/orb of energy (12)]
 48007 | Elf:2    | Found a runed gate.
 48008 | Elf:2    | Found a runed gate.
 48009 | Elf:2    | Found a runed gate.
 48072 | Elf:2    | HP: 30/159 [deep elf knight/long sword (10)]

Table legend:
 A = Turns spent in this place as a percentage of turns spent in the
     entire game.
 B = Non-inter-level travel turns spent in this place as a percentage of
     non-inter-level travel turns spent in the entire game.
 C = Inter-level travel turns spent in this place as a percentage of
     turns spent in this place.
 D = Turns resting spent in this place as a percentage of non-inter-level
     travel turns spent in this place.
 E = Turns spent auto-exploring this place as a percentage of
     non-inter-level travel turns spent in this place.
 F = Non-inter-level travel turns spent in this place divided by the
     number of levels of this place that you've seen.

                   A       B       C       D       E               F
               +-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+----------------------
         Total | 100.0 | 100.0 |   0.7 |   6.2 |   7.3 |         395.1
       Dungeon |  53.0 |  52.9 |   0.9 |   5.7 |   7.9 |         432.1
        Temple |   0.4 |   0.4 |   1.9 |   0.0 |  70.6 |          51.0
          Lair |  19.6 |  19.6 |   0.9 |   7.9 |   6.8 |         399.7
         Swamp |   6.5 |   6.5 |   0.4 |   5.4 |   3.3 |         397.5
     Snake Pit |   0.3 |   0.3 |   0.0 |   0.0 |   0.0 |          40.0
  Orcish Mines |   5.3 |   5.3 |   0.8 |   5.4 |  10.8 |         325.0
   Elven Halls |   5.2 |   5.2 |   0.5 |   3.6 |   6.6 |         320.0
         Sewer |   2.4 |   2.4 |   0.0 |   4.0 |   6.7 |         298.0
      Ice Cave |   7.3 |   7.3 |   0.0 |  10.5 |   2.7 |         896.0
               +-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+----------------------

Table legend:
 A = Kills in this place as a percentage of kills in entire the game.
 B = Kills by you in this place as a percentage of kills by you in
     the entire game.
 C = Kills by friends in this place as a percentage of kills by
     friends in the entire game.
 D = Other kills in this place as a percentage of other kills in the
     entire game.
 E = Experience gained in this place as a percentage of experience
     gained in the entire game.
 F = Experience gained in this place divided by the number of levels of
     this place that you have seen.

                   A       B       C       D       E               F
               +-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+----------------------
         Total | 100.0 | 100.0 | 100.0 | 100.0 | 100.0 |        7621.4
       Dungeon |  54.4 |  54.8 |  50.0 |  50.0 |  36.0 |        5664.9
          Lair |  16.4 |  15.0 |  32.1 |  28.6 |  26.1 |       10267.7
         Swamp |   4.9 |   4.7 |   8.3 |   0.0 |   9.6 |       11322.0
     Snake Pit |   0.3 |   0.3 |   0.0 |   0.0 |   0.6 |        1482.0
  Orcish Mines |   9.2 |   9.7 |   2.4 |  14.3 |   7.0 |        8222.0
   Elven Halls |   5.6 |   5.5 |   7.1 |   7.1 |  15.9 |       18829.0
         Sewer |   4.2 |   4.5 |   0.0 |   0.0 |   0.1 |         350.0
      Ice Cave |   5.0 |   5.5 |   0.0 |   0.0 |   4.7 |       11106.0
               +-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+----------------------

Skill      XL: |  1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 |
---------------+----------------------------------------------------+-----
Ice Magic      |     4     5  6     7  8                            |  8.0
Spellcasting   |                 3  4  5  6  9 11                12 | 12.1
Summonings     |                 1  3  4  5                    6    |  6.7
Conjurations   |                       3  6        7  9 10    11 12 | 12.0
Stealth        |                          4                         |  4.0
Fire Magic     |                          4                         |  4.0
Poison Magic   |                             6  8  9             11 | 11.0
Fighting       |                                3  5  6  8    10 11 | 11.9
Armour         |                                2  4  6  8          |  8.0
Dodging        |                                3  4  6  7 10 12    | 12.0
Invocations    |                                   4  6  8          |  8.0
Long Blades    |                                         4  8       |  8.0

Action                   |  1- 3 |  4- 6 |  7- 9 | 10-12 | 13-15 | 16-18 || total
-------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------++-------
Melee: Mace              |    44 |    19 |       |       |       |       ||    63
       Unarmed           |     2 |       |       |       |       |       ||     2
       Rapier            |       |    18 |    60 |       |       |       ||    78
       Trident           |       |       |    10 |    26 |    40 |       ||    76
       Great sword       |       |       |       |   113 |   377 |   495 ||   985
       Constrict         |       |       |       |       |   107 |   143 ||   250
Throw: Stone             |    59 |   159 |   230 |    82 |    97 |       ||   627
       Tomahawk          |    19 |     3 |       |       |     2 |    21 ||    45
       Javelin           |       |       |       |       |     1 |       ||     1
 Cast: Freeze            |    50 |   117 |   296 |    67 |    29 |       ||   559
       Throw Frost       |       |     8 |    17 |    28 |    33 |     5 ||    91
       Summon Ice Beast  |       |     1 |    13 |    27 |    33 |    49 ||   123
       Throw Icicle      |       |       |    15 |    46 |    54 |    13 ||   128
       Ozocubu's Armour  |       |       |     3 |     9 |     8 |    10 ||    30
       Sticky Flame      |       |       |     4 |    80 |   143 |   135 ||   362
       Olgreb's Toxic Ra |       |       |       |    19 |    39 |    29 ||    87
       Mephitic Cloud    |       |       |       |    10 |    28 |     8 ||    46
       Venom Bolt        |       |       |       |    35 |   222 |    64 ||   321
       Animate Skeleton  |       |       |       |     2 |    37 |    58 ||    97
       Poison Arrow      |       |       |       |       |       |    59 ||    59
       Iskenderun's Myst |       |       |       |       |       |    27 ||    27
Invok: Divine Energy     |       |       |       |     1 |       |       ||     1
       Stop Divine Energ |       |       |       |     1 |       |       ||     1
       Channel Magic     |       |       |       |       |     5 |       ||     5
       Forget Spell      |       |       |       |       |       |     1 ||     1
 Abil: Spit Poison       |       |       |       |       |     3 |     1 ||     4
Evoke: Wand              |       |       |     2 |    10 |     6 |    11 ||    29
       Disc of storms    |       |       |       |     2 |       |       ||     2
       Lamp of fire      |       |       |       |       |       |     2 ||     2
  Use: Scroll            |       |     9 |     7 |     7 |    23 |    17 ||    63
       Potion            |       |     7 |       |     6 |     7 |     5 ||    25
 Stab: Sleeping          |       |     1 |     1 |     3 |     1 |     2 ||     8
       Distracted        |       |       |     2 |       |     2 |    10 ||    14
       Confused          |       |       |       |     2 |     7 |     3 ||    12
  Eat: Chunk             |     2 |    10 |    34 |    38 |    89 |    32 ||   205
       Pizza             |       |       |     1 |       |       |       ||     1
       Meat ration       |       |       |       |       |       |     5 ||     5
       Bread ration      |       |       |       |       |       |     1 ||     1
       Royal jelly       |       |       |       |       |       |     1 ||     1
       Beef jerky        |       |       |       |       |       |     3 ||     3
Armor: Robe              |    15 |    24 |   119 |   106 |    61 |   273 ||   598
       Troll leather arm |       |       |       |    35 |   208 |       ||   243
       Leather armour    |       |       |       |       |       |    16 ||    16
Dodge: Dodged            |    25 |    52 |   153 |   155 |   455 |   629 ||  1469
Rpst.: Great sword       |       |       |       |    44 |   103 |   150 ||   297

Vanquished Creatures
  Gastronok (Lair:2)
  Frances (Swamp:2)
  A thorn hunter (Swamp:1)
  A deep elf sorcerer (Elf:1)
  An ettin (Orc:2)
  2 blizzard demons (IceCv)
  Snorg (Orc:2)
  A yaktaur captain (D:15)
  Harold (D:11)
  2 vault guards
  A hydra (Lair:6)
  6 centaur warriors
  Erica (D:7)
  7 dancing weapons
  A deep troll shaman (Lair:6)
  2 alligators
  An ogre mage (D:15)
  7 death yaks
  3 orc high priests (Orc:2)
  Urug (D:11)
  8 deep elf knights
  4 skeletal warriors (D:13)
  A fire crab (Lair:5)
  4 swamp dragons
  2 unseen horrors
  3 deep elf archers
  5 wizards
  A wolf spider zombie (D:14)
  4 orc knights (Orc:2)
  A lindwurm (Lair:6)
  3 hill giants
  A necromancer (D:13)
  Pikel (D:4)
  5 orc sorcerers
  A manticore (D:13)
  34 deep elf magi
  2 salamanders (Snake:1)
  19 ugly things
  5 cyclopes
  17 elephants
  2 black mambas
  A guardian serpent (Snake:1)
  An ice statue (IceCv)
  Maurice (Orc:1)
  A black mamba (shapeshifter) (D:15)
  15 spiny frogs
  3 centaur skeletons
  2 rime drakes
  5 freezing wraiths (IceCv)
  A yaktaur (D:15)
  A redback zombie (D:13)
  6 ice devils (IceCv)
  4 anaconda simulacra (IceCv)
  3 golden dragon simulacra (IceCv)
  6 komodo dragons
  3 trolls
  A polar bear (Lair:6)
  3 meliai (D:14)
  3 tyrant leeches
  8 hornets
  4 two-headed ogres
  Prince Ribbit (D:8)
  18 blink frogs
  A slime creature (shapeshifter) (D:15)
  9 slime creatures (D:12)
  2 bog bodies
  A meliai zombie (D:13)
  12 hippogriffs
  4 spriggans (Swamp:1)
  A centaur simulacrum (D:15)
  2 shadows
  An air elemental (Elf:1)
  4 fire elementals
  4 dire elephant simulacra (IceCv)
  5 wraiths (D:12)
  4 wyverns
  A water elemental (Elf:1)
  5 hogs
  49 yaks
  2 basilisks
  10 humans (D:13)
  12 vampire mosquitoes
  7 wargs
  6 swamp worms
  6 insubstantial wisps (Swamp:1)
  2 iron troll simulacra (IceCv)
  4 harpy simulacra (IceCv)
  2 soldier ants
  10 water moccasins
  A floating eye (shapeshifter) (D:14)
  5 porcupines
  A porcupine (shapeshifter) (Elf:2)
  2 hornet zombies
  2 hydra simulacra (IceCv)
  6 swamp drakes
  31 orc warriors
  5 ice beasts
  2 black bears
  A necrophage (D:5)
  4 sky beasts
  A boggart (Elf:1)
  4 phantoms
  19 centaurs
  14 ogres
  13 wolves
  9 crocodiles
  2 big kobolds
  22 bullfrogs
  An earth elemental (Elf:2)
  A wyvern skeleton (D:10)
  4 scorpions
  A water moccasin skeleton (D:6)
  13 wights
  20 killer bees
  8 howler monkeys
  4 electric eels (Lair:6)
  2 draconian simulacra (IceCv)
  10 crimson imps
  6 bullfrog zombies
  4 quasits
  5 centaur zombies
  8 hounds
  23 orc priests
  4 jellies
  27 orc wizards
  A bullfrog skeleton (D:5)
  2 gnoll shamans
  3 iguanas
  Ijyb (D:3)
  5 troll simulacra (IceCv)
  16 worker ants
  A spriggan simulacrum (IceCv)
  A wolf simulacrum (IceCv)
  2 hound skeletons
  2 worker ant zombies
  Robin (D:3)
  16 gnolls
  A river rat (D:10)
  16 adders
  A naga simulacrum (IceCv)
  2 shadow imps
  6 white imps (IceCv)
  10 ufetubi (IceCv)
  7 oozes (Sewer)
  An adder skeleton (D:5)
  6 worms
  10 dart slugs
  20 leopard geckos
  81 orcs
  11 ball pythons
  18 bats
  14 giant cockroaches
  27 goblins
  14 hobgoblins
  19 jackals
  6 quokkas
  14 frilled lizards
  23 kobolds
  25 rats
  A plant (D:1)
1091 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (collateral kills)
  Nikola (Swamp:2)
  Rupert (Lair:3)
  Kirke (Lair:4)
  A vault guard (D:13)
  Josephine (D:12)
  12 hydras
  A catoblepas (Lair:6)
  3 centaur warriors
  3 death yaks (Lair:6)
  An alligator (Swamp:1)
  The ghost of dylex the Quickloader, a journeyman KoHu of Okawaru (D:11)
  2 dancing weapons
  A skeletal warrior (D:13)
  A wizard (D:13)
  2 deep elf archers (Elf:1)
  A hill giant (D:11)
  A deep elf mage (Elf:2)
  An orc knight (Orc:2)
  An orc sorcerer (Orc:2)
  2 ugly things (D:15)
  A centaur zombie (D:15)
  9 elephants
  A spiny frog (Lair:4)
  A gargoyle (D:15)
  A kobold demonologist (D:14)
  A yaktaur (D:14)
  A komodo dragon (Lair:6)
  A tyrant leech (Lair:3)
  A hippogriff (Lair:3)
  A hog (Lair:4)
  6 humans (D:13)
  A steam dragon (D:13)
  A fire elemental (Elf:1)
  A vampire mosquito (Swamp:1)
  A swamp worm (Swamp:1)
  A water moccasin (Lair:6)
  An ice beast (D:5)
  2 slaves (D:4)
  2 ogres
  2 centaurs
  A big kobold (D:7)
  A bullfrog (D:10)
  A howler monkey (D:8)
  A jelly (D:9)
  A quasit (D:8)
  2 hounds
  A gnoll (D:6)
  A shadow imp (D:4)
  An orc (D:13)
  A jackal (D:6)
  A kobold (D:7)
  A fungus (Lair:6)
  A plant (Lair:6)
88 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (others)
  An orc warrior (D:13)
  A jelly (D:15)
  An orc wizard (Orc:2)
  An ufetubus (IceCv)
  2 bushes (Lair:6)
  23 fungi
  13 plants
42 creatures vanquished.

Grand Total: 1221 creatures vanquished

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Post Wednesday, 24th May 2017, 14:59

Re: CIP NaIE - Still trying Ice Elementalists

So, have you found any staff at all? Or any weapon that is less clumsy than that great sword? Any elec or pain weapon would be great. Or demon anything, but that is pretty unlikely at this stage.

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Post Wednesday, 24th May 2017, 15:06

Re: CIP NaIE - Still trying Ice Elementalists

I think you're fine.

I would do these things:
- Stop training spell-casting. Instead train some more poison to make PArrow stronger. That spell does good damage against poison resistant/immune targets. Forget about using venom bolt in most cases.
- Alternatively, if available, consider bolt of cold. It's really quite good in snake/swamp. And then you might also pick up freezing cloud, which is also really strong in those areas. Refrigeration can also be good, but you need rC+. Being cold-blooded is not so good...
- Either way, memorise conjure flame, if available. Nagas will happily walk into it. Then you can sticky them and be happy.
- Ice beasts are pretty good in swamp/snake. You could get some better summons too, like menagerie or shadow creatures.
- Snake will probably give you a barding, which will be nice.
- There's not much point in training a lot of armour right now, because you only have a measly 5 base AC, but at 8.8 you get another point of AC!
- Most of your spells are damage. In the medium term, get more utility, like swiftness, butterflies, DMsl (does that still exist?), apportation.
- Passage of Golubria and Blink are good to have on something as slow as Na.

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Post Wednesday, 24th May 2017, 22:26

Re: CIP NaIE - Still trying Ice Elementalists

Note that nagas are not cold blooded, only draconians are. Still a good idea to have rC+ if you're going to hit yourself with cold damage, though. DMSL does still exist, repel was removed.

I'd agree that you want to raise conj/poison another 1-2 levels to get poison arrow more reliable, but after that fighting/spellcasting can be decent until you identify your next goal you want to commit to (either another good spell, or selecting your end game weapon). The +1 enchantment on the great sword does hurt a little bit, but it's still decent enough that you could use it all game long if you don't find anything better.

I'm not saying sif is crazy powerful or anything, but I do find that being able to repeatedly channel back mana makes casters a lot more convenient to play. It's pretty easy to just bolt everything down, restore mana, bolt everything down, etc. You don't really have to worry about conserving mana, and your bolt spells just become the solution to every encounter. If you find bolt of cold/freezing cloud, learn them, but until then, poison arrow can fill this role.

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Post Thursday, 25th May 2017, 00:25

Re: CIP NaIE - Still trying Ice Elementalists

There is a Bolt of Cold and Freezing Cloud in a shop game, but I'm waiting to get it free, because I'm cheap. Thus, with my current lineup, killing stuff in the hall of blade rune vault is very tedious.

For weapons there's a triple sword of holy wrath, a ton of battle axes, a rapier of electrocution, rapier of distortion, quarterstaff of speed, staff of energy, staff of power, staff of fire. None of the low-skill superstars in the game yet, i.e., demon foo, or lajatang, so nothing's really screaming "pick me" yet, but I could reasonably choose to skill as if I will eventually find a demon blade, because it's a safe assumption I will eventually.

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Post Thursday, 25th May 2017, 06:18

Re: CIP NaIE - Still trying Ice Elementalists

Rapier of electrocution is good: distortion too if you can handle the annoyance.

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Post Thursday, 25th May 2017, 06:23

Re: CIP NaIE - Still trying Ice Elementalists

To me, any weapon of elec is screaming "pick me" :D

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Post Thursday, 25th May 2017, 08:00

Re: CIP NaIE - Still trying Ice Elementalists

Elec rapier is pretty 'decent'. Distortion, well, you have strong ranged attacks so making enemies blink away is less of an issue, but weapon swapping can be good. Especially if you find a useful staff.

I would usually advise against saving money. If there's something useful in a shop that you can buy now, then just buy it.

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