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Spider Stomper

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Joined: Tuesday, 21st February 2012, 21:32

Post Saturday, 20th May 2017, 03:55

CIP, MuIE of Ash

Any advice on Mummy play? I've never payed Mu or IE before. Don't think I've gone very far with Ash before, either, but I think this is a good combo for it, so I can check it off the list (and never play it again!) I am trying to get a win with every kind of background/race/god, and this ticks three boxes.

As I understand it, IE are pretty flexible and tend to hybridize more than play nuker, but I have no confidence I'll spend my XP correctly, and expect I will spread myself too thin. How to avoid this?

When I finally committed to a weapon after finding the whip of elec, I ran into some Axes that immediately made me doubt myself. Stick with maces, since whip is almost at min delay?

What's my hydra / uniques plan? I've been spamming ice beast, but I want to get away from doing that, since the XP loss probably hurts -2 aptitudes even more than normal.

http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/morgue/ ... dubois.txt
  Code:
 Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.19.5 (webtiles) character file.

ddubois the Frost Mage (Mummy Ice Elementalist)    Turns: 21084, Time: 02:12:10

Health: 86/86      AC: 14    Str: 11    XL:     12   Next: 39%
Magic:  22/22      EV: 14    Int: 19    God:    Ashenzari [***...]
Gold:   917        SH:  0    Dex: 13    Spells: 7 memorised, 7 levels left

rFire  . . .      SeeInvis +    a - +2 whip (elec) (curse)
rCold  + . .      Gourm    .    h - +2 robe {MR+} (curse)
rNeg   + + +      Faith    .    (no shield)
rPois  ∞          Spirit   .    g - +0 helmet
rElec  .          Reflect  .    w - +2 cloak {+Inv} (curse)
rCorr  .          Harm     .    q - +0 pair of gloves
MR     ++...                    K - +0 pair of boots
Stlth  ++........               p - amulet of magic regeneration (curse)
                                c - ring of protection from fire (curse)
                                m - +4 ring of protection (curse)

@: no status effects
A: no food or potions, fire vulnerability, cold resistance 1, negative energy
resistance 3, torment resistance, unbreathing
a: Curse Item, Scrying, Renounce Religion, Evoke Invisibility


You are on level 1 of the Lair of Beasts.
You worship Ashenzari.
Ashenzari is most pleased with you.
You are not hungry.

You have visited 3 branches of the dungeon, and seen 13 of its levels.
You have also visited: Sewer, Ice Cave and Volcano.

You have collected 917 gold pieces.

Inventory:

Hand Weapons
 a - a cursed +2 whip of electrocution (weapon)
 x - a +2 battleaxe of freezing
 G - the cursed +0 war axe of the Wasp {chop, rN+ Int+4}
   (You found it in an ice cave)   
   
   It inflicts extra damage upon your enemies.
   
   It affects your intelligence (+4).
   It protects you from negative energy.
   It has a curse placed upon it.
Missiles
 d - 6 javelins
 f - 285 stones (quivered)
Armour
 g - a +0 helmet (worn)
 h - a cursed +2 robe of magic resistance (worn)
 q - a +0 pair of gloves (worn)
 w - a cursed +2 cloak of invisibility (worn)
 K - a +0 pair of boots (worn)
Rods
 M - a rod of inaccuracy
   (You found it on level 2 of the Lair of Beasts)
Jewellery
 c - a cursed ring of protection from fire (right hand)
 e - an uncursed ring of ice
 m - a cursed +4 ring of protection (left hand)
 p - a cursed amulet of magic regeneration (around neck)
 s - an uncursed ring of ice
Wands
 b - a wand of acid (1/15)
 l - a wand of iceblast (5/15)
 n - a wand of disintegration (5/24)
 t - a wand of random effects
 u - a wand of polymorph {zapped: 3}
 y - a wand of paralysis (9/24)
 B - a wand of polymorph
 C - a wand of paralysis (16/24)
 E - a wand of flame (25/48)
 I - a wand of enslavement
 J - a wand of iceblast
 L - a wand of random effects
Scrolls
 i - 4 scrolls of magic mapping
 j - a scroll of remove curse
 k - 2 scrolls of recharging
 o - 4 scrolls of teleportation
 r - a scroll of fog
 v - a scroll of enchant weapon
 z - a scroll of fear
 A - a scroll of amnesia
 H - a scroll labeled CALAPTEU ZAOMM
Books
 D - a book of Beasts   
   
    Spells                             Type                      Level
    a - Summon Butterflies           Summoning                     1
    b - Call Canine Familiar         Summoning                     3
    c - Summon Ice Beast             Ice/Summoning                 4
    d - Summon Mana Viper            Hexes/Summoning               5
    e - Summon Hydra                 Summoning                     7
 F - a book of Ice   
   
    Spells                             Type                      Level
    a - Ice Form                     Ice/Transmutation             4
    b - Metabolic Englaciation       Hexes/Ice                     5
    c - Ozocubu's Refrigeration      Ice                           6
    d - Bolt of Cold                 Conjuration/Ice               6
    e - Freezing Cloud               Conjuration/Ice/Air           6
    f - Simulacrum                   Ice/Necromancy                6


   Skills:
 + Level 5.4 Fighting
 + Level 8.5(11.4) Maces & Flails
 + Level 4.7 Dodging
 - Level 1.5 Stealth
 - Level 7.0 Spellcasting
 - Level 4.0(6.7) Conjurations
 - Level 2.1(4.3) Charms
 - Level 4.0(6.7) Summonings
 - Level 9.0(11.7) Ice Magic
 + Level 6.2(9.2) Evocations


You have 7 spell levels left.
You know the following spells:

 Your Spells              Type           Power        Failure   Level  Hunger
a - Freeze                Ice            ####         1%          1    N/A
b - Throw Frost           Conj/Ice       #####.       1%          2    N/A
c - Ozocubu's Armour      Chrm/Ice       #####...     1%          3    N/A
d - Summon Ice Beast      Ice/Summ       #####...     1%          4    N/A
e - Throw Icicle          Conj/Ice       #####...     1%          4    N/A
f - Summon Butterflies    Summ           ####....     1%          1    N/A
g - Call Canine Familiar  Summ           ####....     1%          3    N/A


Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (10/15)            Temple (1/1) D:4            Lair (2/6) D:10
 Shoals (0/4) Lair:2     
 Snake: Lair:2-4    Spider: Lair:2-4       Orc: D:9-12     

Altars:
Ashenzari
Cheibriados
Dithmenos
Elyvilon
Fedhas
Gozag
Hepliaklqana
Kikubaaqudgha
Makhleb
Nemelex Xobeh
Okawaru
Qazlal
Ru
Sif Muna
Uskayaw
Vehumet
Xom
Yredelemnul
Zin
The Shining One

Shops:
D:10 =

Annotations:
D:3 exclusion: wight
Lair:1 exclusion: oklob plant


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You do not eat or drink.
Your flesh is vulnerable to fire.
You are immune to poison.
Your flesh is cold resistant. (rC+)
You are immune to negative energy. (rN+++)
You are immune to unholy pain and torment.
You can survive without breathing.


Message History

Char dumped successfully.
Saving game... please wait.
Level annotation: exclusion: oklob plant
Welcome back, ddubois the Mummy Ice Elementalist.
Ashenzari says: Partake of my vision. Partake of my curse.
Press ? for a list of commands and other information.
Okay, then.
Unknown command.
Saving game... please wait.
Level annotation: exclusion: oklob plant
Welcome back, ddubois the Mummy Ice Elementalist.
Ashenzari says: Partake of my vision. Partake of my curse.
Press ? for a list of commands and other information.
Char dumped successfully.
Okay, then.
Search for what [? for help]? shield
Unknown command.
Search for what [Enter for "shield", or ? for help]? axe
Char dumped successfully.
Saving game... please wait.

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There are no monsters in sight!

Vanquished Creatures
  A frost giant (IceCv)
  Erica (D:8)
  A death yak (IceCv)
  A deep troll (Lair:1)
  2 spiny frogs
  2 komodo dragons
  3 polar bears (IceCv)
  A two-headed ogre (D:10)
  Grinder (D:5)
  2 hippogriffs
  12 yaks
  Sigmund (D:6)
  2 wyverns
  A fire bat (Volcano)
  A hungry ghost (D:7)
  A mottled dragon (D:7)
  Duvessa (D:5)
  2 porcupines
  3 sky beasts
  A phantom (D:10)
  A black bear (D:4)
  4 ogres
  2 necrophages (D:7)
  14 wolves
  A centaur (D:8)
  2 crocodiles
  2 big kobolds
  9 bullfrogs
  A gnoll sergeant (D:10)
  Dowan (D:5)
  3 scorpions
  16 killer bees
  2 wights (D:7)
  2 howler monkeys
  7 crimson imps
  2 bullfrog zombies (D:10)
  Crazy Yiuf (D:5)
  7 hounds
  2 orc priests
  2 jellies
  A bullfrog skeleton (D:5)
  14 worker ants
  Natasha (thrice) (D:3)
  2 iguanas
  3 orc wizards
  A hound skeleton (D:10)
  2 mummies (D:7)
  3 worker ant zombies
  16 gnolls
  2 river rats (Sewer)
  7 adders
  3 shadow imps
  9 white imps (Lair:2)
  An ooze (D:3)
  2 adder zombies
  An adder skeleton (D:4)
  5 worms
  3 dart slugs
  7 leopard geckos
  47 orcs
  2 ball pythons
  4 giant cockroaches
  7 goblins
  3 hobgoblins
  12 jackals
  18 kobolds
  8 quokkas
  4 bats
  6 frilled lizards
  2 jackal skeletons
  3 jackal zombies
  A leopard gecko zombie (D:6)
  A quokka zombie (D:7)
  18 rats
342 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (collateral kills)
  2 hydras (Lair:2)
  An ice statue (IceCv)
  2 spiny frogs (Lair:1)
  3 komodo dragons
  7 polar bears (IceCv)
  A queen bee (D:8)
  A two-headed ogre (D:10)
  A troll (D:10)
  A snapping turtle (Lair:2)
  17 yaks
  A fire bat (Volcano)
  The ghost of markar the Cudgeler, an amateur OgBe of Trog (D:4)
  An orc warrior (D:10)
  A sky beast (D:7)
  3 ogres
  16 wolves
  A big kobold (D:7)
  A bullfrog (Lair:2)
  12 killer bees (D:8)
  A lava snake (Volcano)
  A bullfrog zombie (D:7)
  An orc priest (D:10)
  An orc wizard (D:10)
  A mummy (D:7)
  2 adders
  3 white imps (Lair:2)
  5 orcs (D:9)
  A quokka (D:7)
  5 kobolds
  A withered plant (D:7)
95 creatures vanquished.

Grand Total: 437 creatures vanquished

Notes
Turn   | Place    | Note
-------+----------+-------------------------------------------
     0 | D:1      | ddubois the Mummy Ice Elementalist began the quest for the Orb.
     0 | D:1      | Reached XP level 1. HP: 13/13 MP: 3/3
   353 | D:1      | Reached XP level 2. HP: 19/19 MP: 1/5
   677 | D:1      | Reached skill level 3 in Ice Magic
   910 | D:1      | Reached XP level 3. HP: 24/24 MP: 6/6
  1372 | D:2      | Found a faded altar of an unknown god.
  1389 | D:2      | Found a blossoming altar of Fedhas.
  1874 | D:3      | Found a glowing drain.
  1881 | D:3      | Noticed Natasha
  1887 | D:3      | Killed Natasha
  1887 | D:3      | Reached XP level 4. HP: 30/30 MP: 6/8
  1969 | D:3      | Noticed Natasha
  1973 | D:3      | Killed Natasha
  1973 | D:3      | Reached skill level 4 in Ice Magic
  1973 | D:3      | Reached XP level 5. HP: 34/35 MP: 5/10
  2080 | Sewer    | Entered a sewer
  2403 | Sewer    | Reached XP level 6. HP: 32/41 MP: 4/11
  2567 | Sewer    | Found a white marble altar of Elyvilon.
  2765 | D:3      | Learned a level 2 spell: Throw Frost
  2769 | D:3      | Learned a level 3 spell: Ozocubu's Armour
  2774 | D:3      | Learned a level 4 spell: Summon Ice Beast
  3178 | D:3      | Noticed Natasha
  3181 | D:3      | Killed Natasha
  3181 | D:3      | Reached skill level 5 in Ice Magic
  3809 | D:4      | Noticed markar's ghost (amateur OgBe)
  3838 | D:4      | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple.
  3845 | Temple   | Entered the Ecumenical Temple
  4030 | Temple   | Became a worshipper of Ashenzari the Shackled
  4300 | D:4      | Reached skill level 1 in Charms
  4407 | D:4      | Reached skill level 1 in Summonings
  4407 | D:4      | Reached XP level 7. HP: 41/46 MP: 4/13
  4688 | D:5      | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
  4702 | D:5      | Noticed Grinder
  4826 | D:5      | Paralysed by Grinder for 4 turns
  4849 | D:5      | Killed Grinder
  4943 | D:5      | Noticed Dowan
  4952 | D:5      | Noticed Duvessa
  5060 | D:5      | Found a runed door.
  5338 | D:5      | Reached skill level 1 in Maces & Flails
  5338 | D:5      | Reached skill level 6 in Ice Magic
  5575 | D:5      | Reached XP level 8. HP: 38/52 MP: 7/14
  5581 | D:5      | Learned a level 4 spell: Throw Icicle
  6044 | D:6      | Noticed Sigmund
  6464 | D:5      | Killed Duvessa
  6843 | D:4      | Killed markar's ghost
  7191 | D:5      | Reached skill level 7 in Ice Magic
  7459 | D:5      | Killed Dowan
  7738 | D:5      | Noticed Crazy Yiuf
  7744 | D:5      | Killed Crazy Yiuf
  7843 | D:6      | Found a deep blue altar of Sif Muna.
  8045 | D:6      | Killed Sigmund
  8078 | D:6      | Found a faded altar of an unknown god.
  8078 | D:6      | Found a faded altar of an unknown god.
  8082 | D:6      | Reached XP level 9. HP: 57/57 MP: 12/15
  8087 | D:6      | Found a faded altar of an unknown god.
  8089 | D:6      | Found a faded altar of an unknown god.
  8099 | D:6      | Found a hazy altar of Hepliaklqana.
  8517 | D:7      | Noticed a soul eater
  8729 | D:6      | Reached skill level 8 in Ice Magic
  9012 | D:7      | Reached skill level 1 in Conjurations
  9044 | D:7      | Reached * piety under Ashenzari
  9581 | D:7      | Found a sacrificial altar of Ru.
 10084 | D:8      | Noticed Erica
 10118 | D:8      | Killed Erica
 10118 | D:8      | Reached skill level 5 in Spellcasting
 10118 | D:8      | Reached XP level 10. HP: 31/63 MP: 2/17
 10394 | D:8      | Reached skill level 9 in Ice Magic
 11175 | D:8      | Reached skill level 5 in Maces & Flails
 12423 | D:7      | Found a sacrificial altar of Ru.
 13216 | D:6      | Found a deep blue altar of Sif Muna.
 13296 | D:6      | Found a faded altar of an unknown god.
 13296 | D:6      | Found a faded altar of an unknown god.
 13301 | D:6      | Found a faded altar of an unknown god.
 13303 | D:6      | Found a faded altar of an unknown god.
 13305 | D:6      | Found a hazy altar of Hepliaklqana.
 13723 | D:9      | Identified the +1 robe "Feweuhar" {rPois Str-4 Dex+3}
 13757 | D:9      | Reached ** piety under Ashenzari
 14094 | D:9      | Found a glowing golden altar of the Shining One.
 14460 | D:9      | Found a glowing golden altar of the Shining One.
 15074 | D:10     | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon
 15093 | D:10     | Found Fiocufom's Jewellery Shop.
 15286 | D:10     | Found a staircase to the Lair.
 15399 | D:10     | Noticed Sonja
 15400 | D:10     | Noticed Sonja
 15400 | D:10     | Sonja changed into Sonja the wyvern
 15405 | D:10     | Killed Sonja the wyvern
 15523 | D:10     | Found a sacrificial altar of Ru.
 16201 | D:10     | Reached XP level 11. HP: 69/69 MP: 15/21
 16275 | Lair:1   | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts
 16275 | Lair:1   | Noticed an oklob plant
 16383 | Lair:1   | Reached skill level 1 in Evocations
 16388 | Lair:1   | Reached skill level 1 in Fighting
 16545 | Lair:1   | Found a dark tunnel.
 16545 | Lair:1   | Noticed a lindwurm
 16585 | Lair:1   | Noticed a deep troll
 16585 | Lair:1   | a lindwurm changed into a deep troll
 16630 | Volcano  | Entered a volcano
 16967 | Volcano  | Reached *** piety under Ashenzari
 17350 | Lair:1   | Killed a deep troll
 18120 | Lair:1   | Learned a level 1 spell: Summon Butterflies
 18124 | Lair:1   | Learned a level 3 spell: Call Canine Familiar
 18407 | Lair:2   | Noticed an eight-headed hydra
 18421 | Lair:2   | Killed an eight-headed hydra
 18438 | Lair:2   | Found a frozen archway.
 18507 | IceCv    | Entered an ice cave
 19690 | IceCv    | Reached skill level 5 in Evocations
 19716 | IceCv    | Reached XP level 12. HP: 74/84 MP: 14/22
 19739 | IceCv    | Noticed a death yak
 19752 | IceCv    | Killed a death yak
 19817 | IceCv    | Noticed a frost giant
 20207 | IceCv    | Killed a frost giant
 20207 | IceCv    | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting
 20498 | IceCv    | Identified the cursed +0 war axe of the Wasp {chop, rN+ Int+4}
 20928 | Lair:2   | Found a staircase to the Shoals.
 20928 | Lair:2   | Noticed a five-headed hydra
 20947 | Lair:2   | Killed a five-headed hydra

Skill      XL: |  1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9 10 11 12 |
---------------+-------------------------------------+-----
Ice Magic      |     3     4     5  6  7  8  9       |  9.0
Spellcasting   |        3        4        5  6  7    |  7.0
Charms         |                 1  2                |  2.1
Summonings     |                 1  2  3  4          |  4.0
Maces & Flails |                    1  3  4  7  8    |  8.5
Conjurations   |                          3  4       |  4.0
Evocations     |                                5  6 |  6.2
Fighting       |                                4  5 |  5.4
Dodging        |                                4    |  4.7
Stealth        |                                     |  1.5

Action                   |  1- 3 |  4- 6 |  7- 9 | 10-12 || total
-------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------++-------
Melee: Mace              |     1 |    15 |       |       ||    16
       Unarmed           |     1 |       |       |       ||     1
       Whip              |       |     5 |   234 |   626 ||   865
 Fire: Hunting sling     |    55 |   110 |    19 |       ||   184
Throw: Stone             |     5 |       |   145 |   138 ||   288
       Javelin           |     4 |     4 |     5 |       ||    13
       Throwing net      |       |       |     1 |       ||     1
 Cast: Freeze            |    37 |    76 |   159 |   129 ||   401
       Throw Frost       |       |    17 |    39 |     7 ||    63
       Ozocubu's Armour  |       |     1 |    10 |    45 ||    56
       Summon Ice Beast  |       |       |    13 |    94 ||   107
       Throw Icicle      |       |       |     7 |    30 ||    37
       Call Canine Famil |       |       |       |     1 ||     1
Invok: Curse Item        |       |     1 |     4 |     1 ||     6
Evoke: Wand              |       |       |     4 |    23 ||    27
       Sack of spiders   |       |       |       |     2 ||     2
  Use: Scroll            |       |     4 |     6 |     6 ||    16
 Stab: Sleeping          |     1 |     1 |       |     2 ||     4
       Distracted        |       |       |       |    10 ||    10
Armor: Robe              |     5 |    12 |    94 |   234 ||   345
Dodge: Dodged            |    16 |    57 |   219 |   370 ||   662

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Post Saturday, 20th May 2017, 07:56

Re: CIP, MuIE of Ash

Mu dont have any spare XP lying around. I'd say you already have stretched too thin. You have a great melee weapon that you spent a lot of XP on but if you want to actually use it, say against yaks, they will SHRED you since your defenses are not up to it. Abuse invisibility to get around that for now.

Get some solid defenses and see if you have some area of effect spells lying around: freezing cloud, bolt of cold as main contenders.
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Shoals Surfer

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Post Saturday, 20th May 2017, 08:11

Re: CIP, MuIE of Ash

With that cloak, you should be able to stab most things with a small investment in stealth and sb. You won the game when you found that cloak. Evoke invis, stab stab, wait out the magical contamination, repeat.
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Post Saturday, 20th May 2017, 16:19

Re: CIP, MuIE of Ash

I'm probably not going to skill stealth and short blades at this point, given the comment above saying I'm already stretched too thin?
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Post Saturday, 20th May 2017, 16:37

Re: CIP, MuIE of Ash

I agree that you shouldn't - invisibility is already pretty decent just for regular usage. Use it against any real threats that don't see invisible. Ice beasts should be good enough for hydras since I'm pretty sure they'll just slow the cold-blooded hydras all the time.
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Post Saturday, 20th May 2017, 17:25

Re: CIP, MuIE of Ash

ddubois wrote:I'm probably not going to skill stealth and short blades at this point, given the comment above saying I'm already stretched too thin?


Sure, maybe not at this point.
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