CIP MiBe LBlades/Axes dilemma

[Fingolfin]

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Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.19.5 (webtiles) character file.

Fingolfin the Fencer (Minotaur Berserker)          Turns: 17186, Time: 00:54:26

Health: 104/125    AC: 19    Str: 26    XL:     13   Next: 26%
Magic:  10/12      EV:  8    Int:  4    God:    Trog [*****.]
Gold:   973        SH:  0    Dex: 11    Spells: 0 memorised, 12 levels left

rFire  + . .      SeeInvis .    a - +5 great sword (freeze)
rCold  . . .      Gourm    .    W - +2 plate armour {rF+}
rNeg   . . .      Faith    .    (shield currently unavailable)
rPois  +          Spirit   +    (helmet restricted)
rElec  .          Reflect  .    L - +0 cloak
rCorr  .          Harm     .    i - +1 pair of gloves
MR     .....                    Y - +0 pair of boots
Stlth  ..........               y - amulet of guardian spirit
                                k - ring of poison resistance
                                V - +2 ring of protection

@: no status effects
A: retaliatory headbutt, horns 2
a: Berserk, Trog's Hand, Brothers in Arms, Burn Spellbooks, Renounce Religion


You are on level 4 of the Lair of Beasts.
You worship Trog.
Trog is extremely pleased with you.
You are not hungry.

You have visited 3 branches of the dungeon, and seen 17 of its levels.
You have also visited: Volcano.

You have collected 973 gold pieces.

Inventory:

Hand Weapons
 a - a +5 great sword of freezing (weapon)
 b - the +2 hand crossbow of the Sky {flame, rC+ Int+3}
   (Trog gifted it to you on level 10 of the Dungeon)   
   
   It causes projectiles fired from it to burn those they strike, causing extra
   injury to most foes and up to half again as much damage against particularly
   susceptible opponents.
   
   It affects your intelligence (+3).
   It protects you from cold.
 q - a +1 antimagic executioner's axe
Missiles
 R - 165 bolts
Armour
 i - a +1 pair of gloves (worn)
 L - a +0 cloak (worn)
 W - a +2 plate armour of fire resistance (worn)
 Y - a +0 pair of boots (worn)
Jewellery
 j - an uncursed ring of protection from cold
 k - a ring of poison resistance (right hand)
 l - a ring of positive energy
 v - an uncursed ring of positive energy
 y - an amulet of guardian spirit (around neck)
 H - an uncursed ring of see invisible
 O - an uncursed ring of protection from fire
 V - a +2 ring of protection (left hand)
Wands
 z - a wand of hasting
 I - a wand of disintegration
 Z - a wand of lightning
Scrolls
 d - 2 scrolls of fear
 m - 4 scrolls of enchant weapon
 n - 4 scrolls of teleportation
 s - a scroll labeled RESTRI LA RAUHEI
 u - 2 scrolls labeled HIVAGO XEKI
 w - 2 scrolls of magic mapping
 A - a scroll of remove curse
 D - 4 scrolls of blinking
 F - a scroll labeled EKON KOSTE
 J - 2 scrolls labeled RILLEIMAVE
 M - a scroll of enchant armour
 S - a scroll labeled FUQ WOOTYDI
 U - 2 scrolls labeled LIYRED OPESOSH
Potions
 e - 3 potions of haste
 g - a fuming ruby potion
 h - 4 potions of resistance
 o - a fizzy blue potion
 p - 2 potions of might
 r - 3 potions of heal wounds
 x - 4 potions of agility
 B - 3 fizzy purple potions
 C - 2 ruby potions
 E - 2 green potions
 G - a dark potion
 N - a murky amethyst potion
 Q - a fuming cyan potion
Books
 T - a book of Transfigurations   
   
    Spells                             Type                      Level
    a - Irradiate                    Conjuration/Transmutation     5
    b - Statue Form                  Transmutation/Earth           6
    c - Hydra Form                   Transmutation                 6
    d - Dragon Form                  Transmutation                 7
   
   
   Trog disapproves of the use of such an item.
Miscellaneous
 K - a disc of storms
Comestibles
 c - 12 bread rations
 f - 2 slices of pizza
 t - 2 beef jerkies
 P - a meat ration
 X - 4 chunks of flesh


   Skills:
 - Level 14.7 Fighting
 - Level 18.0 Long Blades
 - Level 6.4 Axes
 - Level 9.6 Crossbows
 + Level 3.2 Armour
 + Level 3.0 Dodging


You have 12 spell levels left.
You don't know any spells.

Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (11/15)            Temple (1/1) D:4            Lair (5/6) D:10
 Shoals (0/4) Lair:4       Spider (0/4) Lair:2     
 Slime: Lair:5-6       Orc: D:9-12     

Hi ! First let's be clear, I know MiBe is supposed to be an easy noob combo, but I also know that I'm really bad at Crawl. So I'm asking you guys :

• I switched from Axes to LBlades because of a good long sword of Elec, then Great sword of freezing. However Trog just gifted me an antimagic executioner axe, should I switch back to Axes for the rest of the game and waste that LBlades XP?
• I intend to abandon Trog for TSO to try and go for extended, any comments/ideas?
• Would it be worth it to get Statue Form castable for when I'll be with TSO or should I just burn the book for piety?
• Does anyone notice any crucial flaw with my skill set? I'm open to ideas on how to evolve.

[bel]

Stay with long blades.

Worry about the rest when you get there.

Train more armour and dodging.

[Fingolfin]

Thanks for the fast answer !

Stay with long blades.

Worry about the rest when you get there.

Sounds good, maybe I'll get a good endgame sword in the meantime.

Train more armour and dodging.

I was told to almost never train armour because it was worthless?

[luckless]

I switched from Axes to LBlades because of a good long sword of Elec, then Great sword of freezing. However Trog just gifted me an antimagic executioner axe, should I switch back to Axes for the rest of the game and waste that LBlades XP?

No! At 18 long blades and 6 axes, the amount of XP you'd need to get the exec axe online is huge; it's not so much that you'd be wasting the long blades XP so much that you wouldn't raising your other skills to the levels you need to survive. In all probability, Trog will give you a good antimagic long blade before long.

I intend to abandon Trog for TSO to try and go for extended

No! Or anyway, don't do it if your main goal is to win/learn the game. In any case, don't switch until you can reliably cast or evoke Blink, to help escape the crowds of berserk trolls and giants Trog will summon.

Would it be worth it to get Statue Form castable for when I'll be with TSO

No! You're a 4 Int minotaur. You've got bad aptitudes in both schools and you should wear heavy armor. Getting Statue Form castable under these conditions would require an insane amount of XP if it's possible at all; plus you don't even fight unarmed, so you'll miss out on one of the spell's main benefits.

Does anyone notice any crucial flaw with my skill set?

Yes! Your defensive skills are way too low. Stop training Fighting and Long Blades immediately and spend all your XP on Armour and Dodging. I'm no expert but I'd recommend 2/3 Armour and 1/3 Dodging with your stats/gear. Once the former hits 12 or so you can raise long blades to 20 to hit mindelay with your greatsword. After that, turn it off and train Fighting, Armour, and Dodging (giving the latter half as much XP as the other two) and maybe Crossbows. Plus get Evocations to 6 ASAP.

[Magipi]

I was told to almost never train armour because it was worthless?

From now on listen to that guy's advice, do the opposite, and you'll be fine.

[Fingolfin]

[You're a 4 Int minotaur. You've got bad aptitudes in both schools and you should wear heavy armor. Getting Statue Form castable under these conditions would require an insane amount of XP if it's possible at all; plus you don't even fight unarmed, so you'll miss out on one of the spell's main benefits.

Are lower level spells like Passwall, Repel Missiles and Swiftness worth it?

[luckless]

Are lower level spells like Passwall, Repel Missiles and Swiftness worth it?

I'd say so, but only after your main combat skills are at healthy levels (mid-to-high teens).

[Magipi]

Are lower level spells like Passwall, Repel Missiles and Swiftness worth it?

I'd say so, but only after your main combat skills are at healthy levels (mid-to-high teens).

I think you probably misread the whole thing. This is a berserker, cannot learn spells yet, only after switching to TSO.

[Fingolfin]

Are lower level spells like Passwall, Repel Missiles and Swiftness worth it?

I'd say so, but only after your main combat skills are at healthy levels (mid-to-high teens).

I think you probably misread the whole thing. This is a berserker, cannot learn spells yet, only after switching to TSO.

I meant for later of course, though I agree it didn't come out as I meant.

[Fingolfin]

Also, what would you think between :

• the +6 great sword of Fimbulwinter {slice, +Blink MR+}
• a +5 great sword of freezing
• a +2 antimagic demon blade

I like the demon blade since it would allow me to get shields going, and it would become a eudemon blade with TSO, but its damage might be underwhelming compared to a triple sword ?

[TonberryJam]

MiBe you wind up just training Fight/Weapon/Dodge/Armor to max in some order that typically favors weapon training more at first.

I'd say Axes would be ideal for your guy. While L.Blades works really well with your MiBe due to Riposte and Headbutt, the EV is a bit low to make it fully effective. When you choose L.Blades it's easier to raise Dex when you can. That said, you have better L.Blades available now, which allows you to stay ahead of the difficulty so it's doable.

I would say switch to TSO to get Holy Wrath on a triple sword would be ideal for your guy. But, you need to get Fighting/Dodging up to high skill. Keep a anti-magic weapon at min delay on hand to deal with Bosses while you spam summon Angel works wonders.

If you had a lot Dex and spell power statue form would be nice, because it would give you 30+ AC at high power, and you retain your base EV. But you have 4 int and level 6 spells are more doable with around 25-27 Int without a ring of wizardy. So you'd want a background suitable to casting level 6 spells b/c they also give good dex stats. And, you won't need high str.

[Fingolfin]

Haha ! Trog finally gifted me my +3 antimagic triple sword (also I will probably get high crossbow skill later on since I was given a sweet +9 triple crossbow of penetration)

[Fingolfin]

Died to Mara on Vaults:3 :/ Thanks for all your advice though !