Lair Larrikin
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Monday, 17th April 2017, 11:48
CiP SpEn^Usk - Seeking build advice to go deeper
Greetings all,
I've been playing Crawl for years but never made it beyond pocketing one or two runes. I've just hit level 12 with a SpEn and I have decent gear and consumables. I'd like some advice on how best to spend my XP from this point onwards and how to best set up a character for the mid-to-late game, because I can usually get to this stage with no problems, but end up dying in one of the harder branches. The main thing I'm not sure about is how how to spend XP and what skills/level of skill I should be aiming for in general.
From what I've read, I understand that stabbers usually need to switch into a different weapon class later on? I picked up a vampiric falchion early on which I thought might have potential, and also just found the +9 hand axe of Causality {holy, +Rage rC+ Int+6} - but not sure how good that is.
Any thoughts? Thanks in advance.
I've been playing Crawl for years but never made it beyond pocketing one or two runes. I've just hit level 12 with a SpEn and I have decent gear and consumables. I'd like some advice on how best to spend my XP from this point onwards and how to best set up a character for the mid-to-late game, because I can usually get to this stage with no problems, but end up dying in one of the harder branches. The main thing I'm not sure about is how how to spend XP and what skills/level of skill I should be aiming for in general.
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Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.19.5 (tiles) character file.
Tulse the Jinx (Spriggan Enchanter) Turns: 17316, Time: 01:20:07
Health: 60/60 AC: 6 Str: 4 XL: 12 Next: 53%
Magic: 27/27 EV: 27 Int: 19 God: Uskayaw [*.....]
Gold: 592 SH: 0 Dex: 19 Spells: 4 memorised, 20 levels left
rFire + . . SeeInvis + a - +5 dagger (pierce)
rCold + . . Gourm . K - +1 robe {rN+}
rNeg + . . Faith . (shield restricted)
rPois + Spirit . k - +2 hat
rElec . Reflect . G - +0 cloak
rCorr . Harm . (gloves unavailable)
MR ++... (boots unavailable)
Stlth ++++++.... p - amulet of magic regeneration
i - ring of Fezubepna {*Corrode rPois rF+ rC+ SInv}
L - ring of wizardry
@: very quick
A: unfitting armour, see invisible, herbivore 3, speed 3, slow metabolism 2
a: Stomp, Renounce Religion
You are on level 1 of the Lair of Beasts.
You worship Uskayaw.
Uskayaw is noncommittal.
You are not hungry.
You have visited 3 branches of the dungeon, and seen 14 of its levels.
You have collected 812 gold pieces.
You have spent 220 gold pieces at shops.
Inventory:
Hand Weapons
a - a +5 dagger of piercing (weapon)
b - a +4 hunting sling
c - a +3 scimitar of flaming
d - a +0 blowgun
y - the +9 hand axe of Causality {holy, +Rage rC+ Int+6}
(You found it on level 12 of the Dungeon)
It has been blessed by the Shining One to cause great damage to the undead
and demons.
It affects your intelligence (+6).
It protects you from cold.
It lets you go berserk.
P - a vampiric falchion
V - a +1 dagger of venom
Missiles
g - 483 stones (quivered)
q - 44 poisoned needles
J - a throwing net
Q - 7 curare-tipped needles
U - 15 tomahawks
Armour
k - a +2 hat (worn)
G - a +0 cloak (worn)
K - a +1 robe of positive energy (worn)
Jewellery
i - the ring of Fezubepna (right hand) {*Corrode rPois rF+ rC+ SInv}
(You acquired it on level 1 of the Lair of Beasts)
[ring of protection from cold]
It protects you from fire.
It protects you from cold.
It protects you from poison.
It lets you see invisible.
It may corrode you when you take damage.
p - an amulet of magic regeneration (around neck)
w - an uncursed ring of fire
L - a ring of wizardry (left hand)
R - an uncursed ring of ice
Z - an uncursed ring of protection from fire
Wands
f - a wand of flame
l - a wand of digging (14/24)
m - a wand of teleportation
B - a wand of polymorph
F - a wand of lightning
O - a wand of lightning
S - a wand of teleportation (3/9)
T - a wand of digging
Y - a wand of acid
Scrolls
e - 5 scrolls of fear
j - 3 scrolls of teleportation
o - 4 scrolls of recharging
t - a scroll of magic mapping
u - 3 scrolls of remove curse
H - 3 scrolls of enchant armour
N - 2 scrolls of blinking
Potions
h - 3 potions of lignification
n - 5 potions of curing
r - 3 potions of haste
s - 4 potions of agility
v - a potion of heal wounds
x - 2 dark potions
z - 2 potions of cancellation
C - a sedimented inky potion
D - a metallic ruby potion
W - a green potion
Books
M - a book of Necromancy
Spells Type Level
a - Pain Necromancy 1
b - Animate Skeleton Necromancy 1
c - Vampiric Draining Necromancy 3
d - Regeneration Charms/Necromancy 3
e - Animate Dead Necromancy 4
f - Control Undead Necromancy 4
Comestibles
A - 12 fruits
E - 6 slices of pizza
I - 3 bread rations
Skills:
* Level 5.7 Fighting
+ Level 10.0 Short Blades
- Level 10.0 Dodging
- Level 13.0 Stealth
- Level 10.0 Spellcasting
* Level 13.4 Hexes
* Level 1.4 Ice Magic
- Level 3.0 Invocations
You have 20 spell levels left.
You know the following spells:
Your Spells Type Power Failure Level Hunger
b - Ensorcelled Hibernat Hex/Ice #####. 1% 2 None
c - Confuse Hex ######.. 1% 3 None
d - Dazzling Spray Conj/Hex #####. 1% 3 None
e - Tukima's Dance Hex ######.. 1% 3 None
Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations
Branches:
Dungeon (12/15) Temple (1/1) D:6 Lair (1/6) D:9
Orc (0/2) D:10
Altars:
Ashenzari
Cheibriados
Dithmenos
Elyvilon
Fedhas
Gozag
Hepliaklqana
Kikubaaqudgha
Makhleb
Nemelex Xobeh
Okawaru
Qazlal
Ru
Sif Muna
Trog
Uskayaw
Vehumet
Xom
Yredelemnul
Zin
The Shining One
Shops:
D:6 ( D:8 ?
Portals:
Trove: D:11 (give dark maul)
Annotations:
D:11 Trove(Dark Maul)
Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations
You are very small and have problems with some larger weapons.
You are too small for most types of armour.
You have supernaturally acute eyesight. (SInv)
You are a herbivore.
You cover ground extremely quickly.
You need consume almost no food.
Message History
There is a stone staircase leading up here.
You climb upwards.
There is a stone staircase leading down here.
There is a staircase to the Lair here.
You climb downwards. Welcome back to the Lair of Beasts!
There is a staircase back to the Dungeon here.
You see here a wand of digging.
You see here 3 scrolls of enchant armour.
H - 3 scrolls of enchant armour
You see here a wand of digging.
T - a wand of digging
There is a staircase back to the Dungeon here.
You see here a book of Necromancy.
M - a book of Necromancy
You see here a vampiric falchion.
P - a vampiric falchion
You see here a shortbow.
You see here a spear of freezing.
You see here a +1 robe.
You see here a spear of freezing.
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There are no monsters in sight!
Vanquished Creatures
2 hydras
Erica (D:10)
Urug (D:10)
4 hill giants
2 cyclopes (D:12)
An ugly thing (D:11)
A manticore (D:12)
Maurice (D:9)
A black mamba (Lair:1)
3 gargoyles
A spiny frog (Lair:1)
5 komodo dragons
3 two-headed ogres
A blink frog (shapeshifter) (D:11)
2 dream sheep (D:12)
4 blink frogs (Lair:1)
4 hippogriffs
A shadow (D:11)
7 wyverns
6 yaks
A wraith (D:10)
A soldier ant (D:11)
2 water moccasins (Lair:1)
A porcupine (Lair:1)
4 ice beasts
A black bear (D:6)
11 orc warriors
8 ogres
An eye of draining (D:9)
4 phantoms
A wolf (Lair:1)
7 centaurs
5 big kobolds
12 bullfrogs
3 scorpions
A water moccasin zombie (D:9)
4 killer bees (D:9)
11 wights
3 howler monkeys
2 crimson imps
4 centaur zombies
4 hounds
9 orc priests
2 bullfrog skeletons (D:5)
A gnoll shaman (D:9)
3 centaur skeletons
5 jellies
3 iguanas
4 orc wizards
12 worker ants
Ijyb (D:3)
3 hound skeletons
A hound zombie (D:5)
2 worker ant zombies
5 adders
14 gnolls
A howler monkey skeleton (D:5)
2 shadow imps
2 oozes
An adder zombie (D:5)
An adder skeleton (D:5)
2 worms
2 dart slugs
A leopard gecko (D:1)
37 orcs
4 giant cockroaches
10 goblins
9 hobgoblins
2 jackals (D:8)
A quokka (D:8)
8 bats
4 frilled lizards
A jackal skeleton (D:8)
17 kobolds
A quokka skeleton (D:8)
8 rats
A plant (D:1)
322 creatures vanquished.
Vanquished Creatures (others)
4 plants (D:9)
4 creatures vanquished.
Grand Total: 326 creatures vanquished
Notes
Turn | Place | Note
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0 | D:1 | Tulse the Spriggan Enchanter began the quest for the Orb.
0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 1. HP: 9/9 MP: 5/5
407 | D:1 | Reached XP level 2. HP: 13/13 MP: 7/7
411 | D:1 | Learned a level 2 spell: Ensorcelled Hibernation
1188 | D:2 | Reached XP level 3. HP: 16/16 MP: 3/9
1944 | D:2 | Reached skill level 5 in Stealth
2111 | D:2 | Reached XP level 4. HP: 21/21 MP: 3/11
2477 | D:3 | Reached XP level 5. HP: 7/24 MP: 3/12
2850 | D:3 | Noticed Ijyb
2895 | D:3 | Killed Ijyb
3046 | D:3 | Found an iron altar of Okawaru.
3418 | D:3 | Reached skill level 5 in Hexes
3982 | D:4 | Learned a level 3 spell: Confuse
4225 | D:4 | Noticed a phantom
4269 | D:4 | Killed a phantom
4269 | D:4 | Reached XP level 6. HP: 28/28 MP: 3/13
5197 | D:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
5247 | D:5 | Learned a level 3 spell: Dazzling Spray
5276 | D:5 | Noticed an ice beast
5279 | D:5 | Killed an ice beast
5279 | D:5 | Reached skill level 5 in Spellcasting
5487 | D:5 | Reached XP level 7. HP: 32/32 MP: 6/17
6563 | D:5 | Reached skill level 10 in Stealth
6563 | D:5 | Reached XP level 8. HP: 13/36 MP: 9/18
6770 | D:6 | Found a blossoming altar of Fedhas.
6870 | D:6 | Learned a level 3 spell: Tukima's Dance
6904 | D:6 | Reached skill level 5 in Short Blades
7291 | D:6 | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple.
7297 | Temple | Entered the Ecumenical Temple
7380 | Temple | Became a worshipper of Uskayaw the Reveler
7553 | D:6 | Reached * piety under Uskayaw
7556 | D:6 | Reached ** piety under Uskayaw
7648 | D:6 | Found Vepiotu's Antique Weapon Emporium.
7771 | D:6 | Found a sparkling altar of Nemelex Xobeh.
7871 | D:7 | Reached skill level 1 in Fighting
7927 | D:7 | Reached XP level 9. HP: 37/41 MP: 20/22
7990 | D:7 | Reached *** piety under Uskayaw
8665 | D:8 | Found a blossoming altar of Fedhas.
8885 | D:8 | Reached **** piety under Uskayaw
8888 | D:8 | Reached ***** piety under Uskayaw
8959 | D:8 | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting
9213 | D:8 | Reached skill level 1 in Invocations
9321 | D:8 | Found Bumiroj's Magic Scroll Boutique.
9345 | D:8 | Bought a scroll of blinking for 97 gold pieces
9345 | D:8 | Bought a scroll of recharging for 123 gold pieces
9931 | D:9 | Found a shadowy altar of Dithmenos.
9976 | D:9 | Noticed Maurice
9990 | D:9 | Killed Maurice
9990 | D:9 | Reached skill level 10 in Hexes
9990 | D:9 | Reached XP level 10. HP: 51/51 MP: 16/23
10533 | D:9 | Found a staircase to the Lair.
11210 | D:9 | Found a glowing golden altar of the Shining One.
11215 | D:9 | Found a radiant altar of Vehumet.
11584 | Lair:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts
11811 | Lair:1 | Noticed a black mamba
11819 | Lair:1 | Killed a black mamba
11819 | Lair:1 | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging
11819 | Lair:1 | Reached skill level 10 in Spellcasting
11988 | Lair:1 | Noticed an eight-headed hydra
12003 | Lair:1 | Killed an eight-headed hydra
12231 | Lair:1 | Noticed a spiny frog
12238 | Lair:1 | Killed a spiny frog
12238 | Lair:1 | Reached XP level 11. HP: 56/56 MP: 23/26
13271 | D:10 | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon
13508 | D:10 | Noticed Urug
13510 | D:10 | Killed Urug
13518 | D:10 | Noticed Erica
13523 | D:10 | Killed Erica
14068 | D:10 | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines.
14218 | D:11 | Noticed a hill giant
14220 | D:11 | Noticed a green ugly thing
14230 | D:11 | Killed a green ugly thing
14303 | D:11 | Killed a hill giant
14334 | D:11 | Noticed a hill giant
14339 | D:11 | Killed a hill giant
14482 | D:11 | Noticed a hill giant
14948 | D:11 | Reached skill level 10 in Dodging
14993 | D:11 | Reached XP level 12. HP: 59/60 MP: 24/27
15691 | D:11 | Found a portal to a secret trove of treasure.
16053 | Lair:1 | Identified a scroll of acquirement
16054 | Lair:1 | Got a steaming copper ring
16056 | Lair:1 | Identified the ring of Fezubepna {*Corrode rPois rF+ rC+ SInv} (You acquired it on level 1 of the Lair of Beasts)
16462 | D:12 | Found a stormy altar of Qazlal.
16794 | D:12 | Got a warped hand axe
16888 | D:12 | Reached skill level 10 in Short Blades
16896 | D:12 | Reached skill level 1 in Ice Magic
16920 | D:12 | Noticed a two-headed hydra
16928 | D:12 | Killed a two-headed hydra
17202 | D:12 | Identified the +9 hand axe of Causality {holy, +Rage rC+ Int+6} (You found it on level 12 of the Dungeon)
Skill XL: | 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 |
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Spellcasting | 3 4 6 8 10 | 10.0
Hexes | 4 5 8 10 11 12 13 | 13.4
Stealth | 5 6 7 8 10 11 13 | 13.0
Short Blades | 2 3 4 5 6 8 10 | 10.0
Fighting | 1 5 | 5.7
Invocations | 2 3 | 3.0
Dodging | 5 10 | 10.0
Ice Magic | 1 | 1.4
From what I've read, I understand that stabbers usually need to switch into a different weapon class later on? I picked up a vampiric falchion early on which I thought might have potential, and also just found the +9 hand axe of Causality {holy, +Rage rC+ Int+6} - but not sure how good that is.
Any thoughts? Thanks in advance.