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CIP-> YASD- DrTm^Ash - V:5

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 Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.19.1 (webtiles) character file.

Vajrapani the Brawler (Grey Draconian Transmuter)  Turns: 47469, Time: 03:19:05

Health: 169/169    AC: 32    Str: 19    XL:     18   Next: 39%
Magic:  33/33      EV: 21    Int: 16    God:    Ashenzari [******]
Gold:   1984       SH:  0    Dex: 11    Spells: 6 memorised, 10 levels left

rFire  + . .      SeeInvis +      - Unarmed
rCold  . . .      Gourm    .    (armour unavailable)
rNeg   . . .      Faith    +    (no shield)
rPois  .          Spirit   .    L - +2 hat (curse)
rElec  .          Reflect  .    J - +2 cloak (curse)
rCorr  .          Harm     .    o - +3 pair of gloves of the Land of Plenty {rF+ MR+} (curse)
MR     +++..      Clarity  +    G - +2 pair of boots (curse)
Stlth  +.........               B - amulet of faith (curse)
                                m - ring of protection from magic
                                O - +5 ring of protection (curse)

@: no status effects
A: walk through water, unfitting armour, unbreathing, cold-blooded, AC +15
a: Curse Item, Scrying, Transfer Knowledge, Renounce Religion
}: 2/15 runes: decaying, serpentine


You are on level 2 of the Lair of Beasts.
You worship Ashenzari.
Ashenzari is exalted by your worship.
You are not hungry.

You have visited 6 branches of the dungeon, and seen 32 of its levels.

You have collected 2921 gold pieces.
You have spent 937 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Missiles
 g - 798 arrows
Armour
 o - the cursed +3 pair of gloves of the Land of Plenty (worn) {rF+ MR+}
   (You bought it in a shop on level 2 of the Orcish Mines)   
   
   It protects you from fire.
   It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments.
   It has a curse placed upon it.
 G - a cursed +2 pair of boots (worn)
 J - a cursed +2 cloak (worn)
 L - a cursed +2 hat (worn)
Jewellery
 c - an uncursed ring of protection from cold
 f - an uncursed ring of protection from fire
 m - a ring of protection from magic (right hand)
 r - an uncursed ring of protection from cold
 B - a cursed amulet of faith (around neck)
 O - a cursed +5 ring of protection (left hand)
 S - a +5 ring of dexterity
Wands
 a - a wand of disintegration (5/24)
 q - a wand of hasting (4/9)
 s - a wand of paralysis (6/24)
 N - a wand of hasting (2/9)
 R - a wand of teleportation (9/9)
Scrolls
 h - 3 scrolls of fear
 i - 4 scrolls of blinking
 j - 5 scrolls of immolation
 l - 6 scrolls of magic mapping
 t - 2 scrolls of amnesia
 y - 2 scrolls of enchant weapon
 C - 6 scrolls of teleportation
 E - 2 scrolls of identify
 Q - 4 scrolls of remove curse
 W - 2 scrolls of fog
Potions
 n - 3 potions of flight
 p - 3 potions of invisibility
 u - 4 potions of lignification
 v - 7 potions of curing
 w - a potion of magic
 x - 3 potions of haste
 z - 3 potions of heal wounds
 A - 5 potions of agility
 D - a potion of might
 F - 2 potions of ambrosia
 K - 2 potions of berserk rage
 U - a potion of resistance
Books
 b - a book of Changes   
   
    Spells                             Type                      Level
    a - Beastly Appendage            Transmutation                 1
    b - Sticks to Snakes             Transmutation                 2
    c - Spider Form                  Transmutation/Poison          3
    d - Ice Form                     Ice/Transmutation             4
    e - Blade Hands                  Transmutation                 5
 e - a book of Transfigurations   
   
    Spells                             Type                      Level
    a - Irradiate                    Conjuration/Transmutation     5
    b - Statue Form                  Transmutation/Earth           6
    c - Hydra Form                   Transmutation                 6
    d - Dragon Form                  Transmutation                 7
 X - a book of Misfortune   
   
    Spells                             Type                      Level
    a - Confusing Touch              Hexes                         1
    b - Confuse                      Hexes                         3
    c - Gell's Gravitas              Hexes/Translocation           3
    d - Petrify                      Transmutation/Earth           4
    e - Metabolic Englaciation       Hexes/Ice                     5
    f - Yara's Violent Unravelling   Hexes/Transmutation           5
Miscellaneous
 P - a phial of floods
Comestibles
 k - 6 slices of pizza
 I - 9 royal jellies
 M - 10 meat rations
 Z - 19 bread rations


   Skills:
 - Level 17.0 Fighting
 - Level 0.3 Throwing
 + Level 13.2(17.3) Dodging
 - Level 18.1 Unarmed Combat
 - Level 11.5 Spellcasting
 - Level 12.0(14.7) Transmutations
 - Level 10.0(12.8) Earth Magic


You have 10 spell levels left.
You know the following spells:

 Your Spells              Type           Power        Failure   Level  Hunger
a - Dragon Form           Tmut           ######....   17%         7    #######
b - Sticks to Snakes      Tmut           ######..     1%          2    None
c - Blade Hands           Tmut           ######....   1%          5    #####..
e - Ice Form              Ice/Tmut       ####....     4%          4    ###....
f - Hydra Form            Tmut           ######....   2%          6    ######.
g - Statue Form           Tmut/Erth      ######...    4%          6    ######.


Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (15/15)            Temple (1/1) D:5            Lair (6/6) D:10
  Swamp (4/4) Lair:3        Snake (4/4) Lair:2        Slime (0/5) Lair:6
    Orc (2/2) D:10            Elf (0/3) Orc:2        Vaults (0/5) D:13
 Depths (0/5) D:15       

Altars:
Ashenzari
Cheibriados
Dithmenos
Elyvilon
Fedhas
Gozag
Hepliaklqana
Kikubaaqudgha
Makhleb
Nemelex Xobeh
Okawaru
Qazlal
Ru
Sif Muna
Trog
Uskayaw
Vehumet
Xom
Yredelemnul
Zin
The Shining One
Beogh
Jiyva

Shops:
D:10 :   D:13 *   Orc:2 !}[*}   Snake:2 *

Annotations:
D:6 dajomu's ghost, novice MiFi
D:8 Gastronok
Lair:6 exclusion: oklob plant
Swamp:2 exclusion: Roxanne, Roxanne


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You can walk through water.
Your dull iron-grey scales are very hard. (AC +15)
You cannot fit into any form of body armour.
You can survive without breathing.
You are cold-blooded and may be slowed by cold attacks.


Message History

There is a stone staircase leading up here.
You climb upwards.
There is a stone staircase leading down here.
Things that are here:
an uncursed robe; an uncursed mace
Your transformation is almost over.
There is a stone staircase leading up here.
You climb upwards.
You revert to your normal fleshy form.
The cursed +3 pair of gloves of the Land of Plenty {rF+ MR+} unmelds from your body.
Your cursed +2 pair of boots unmelds from your body.
There is a stone staircase leading down here.
There is an open door here.
There is a huge open gate here.
There is a staircase back to the Lair here.
You climb upwards. Welcome back to the Lair of Beasts!
There is a staircase to the Snake Pit here.
You now have 169/169 hp.
Save game and exit?
Welcome back, Vajrapani the Grey Draconian Transmuter.

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There are no monsters in sight!

Vanquished Creatures
  the Lernaean hydra (Swamp:4)
  Jorgrun (Swamp:2)
  Rupert (D:14)
  Frances (Snake:2)
  Kirke (D:13)
  3 thorn hunters (Swamp:4)
  Donald (Swamp:3)
  9 nagarajas
  An orc warlord (Orc:2)
  The ghost of RussianFaggotGlassGo the Carver, a journeyman FoSk of Cheibriados (Orc:2)
  Josephine (D:14)
  A yaktaur captain (D:15)
  15 naga warriors
  A vault guard (D:13)
  20 hydras
  14 anacondas
  A catoblepas (Lair:6)
  A death knight (D:15)
  2 ghost crabs
  5 centaur warriors
  A tengu warrior (D:15)
  8 alligators
  11 naga sharpshooters
  An orc high priest (Orc:2)
  3 shock serpents
  Sonja (Lair:2)
  A skeletal warrior (D:15)
  3 salamander mystics (Snake:3)
  A deep troll (D:10)
  An unseen horror (D:11)
  3 spriggan druids
  2 shambling mangroves
  A wizard (D:13)
  3 orc knights
  15 swamp dragons
  4 hill giants
  5 naga ritualists
  9 ugly things
  4 necromancers
  7 mana vipers
  2 wolf spiders (Lair:6)
  13 orc sorcerers
  13 salamanders
  6 cyclopes
  4 manticores
  2 deep elf magi
  12 elephants
  3 guardian serpents
  11 naga magi
  A torpor snail (Lair:6)
  The ghost of Philosophy the Chopper, a novice MiFi of Okawaru (D:7)
  30 black mambas
  The ghost of Philosophy the Shield-Bearer, a novice FoFi (D:5)
  24 spiny frogs
  A gargoyle (D:15)
  2 freezing wraiths (D:15)
  2 kobold demonologists (Swamp:2)
  4 rime drakes
  13 komodo dragons
  The ghost of dvd the Stinger, a novice OpVM (D:3)
  3 yaktaurs
  A hydra zombie (Swamp:1)
  An efreet (D:15)
  A queen bee (Lair:2)
  Grinder (D:3)
  2 polar bears
  3 meliai (D:13)
  10 trolls
  14 hornets
  10 tyrant leeches
  11 bog bodies
  2 two-headed ogres
  4 dream sheep (Lair:6)
  13 hippogriffs
  3 slime creatures (Swamp:1)
  9 blink frogs
  2 redbacks (Lair:6)
  8 spriggans
  11 wyverns
  6 wraiths
  3 shadows
  37 yaks
  3 water elementals
  16 humans (D:13)
  A tyrant leech zombie (Swamp:1)
  6 basilisks
  A hog (D:13)
  A steam dragon (Lair:2)
  26 vampire mosquitoes
  A hungry ghost (D:7)
  7 wargs
  Menkaure (D:6)
  9 swamp worms
  2 mottled dragons
  16 insubstantial wisps
  59 nagas
  A soldier ant (D:12)
  21 water moccasins
  25 orc warriors
  9 porcupines
  A hornet zombie (Swamp:1)
  A black bear (Lair:5)
  4 ice beasts
  18 swamp drakes
  4 ogres
  7 sky beasts
  2 eyes of draining
  15 wolves
  A phantom (D:10)
  25 centaurs
  15 crocodiles
  10 electric eels
  3 big kobolds
  24 bullfrogs
  A wyvern zombie (D:14)
  2 scorpions
  26 killer bees
  3 howler monkeys
  13 wights
  10 crimson imps
  A centaur zombie (D:10)
  13 hounds
  A bullfrog zombie (D:12)
  4 jellies
  2 centaur skeletons
  17 orc priests
  37 orc wizards
  2 bullfrog skeletons
  Ijyb (D:3)
  3 iguanas
  10 worker ants
  A crocodile zombie (Swamp:1)
  A hound skeleton (D:10)
  2 worker ant zombies
  17 adders
  9 gnolls
  2 river rats (Lair:6)
  A shadow imp (D:5)
  12 white imps (D:11)
  5 worms
  3 dart slugs (D:1)
  8 leopard geckos
  97 orcs
  5 giant cockroaches
  8 goblins
  6 hobgoblins
  11 jackals
  A quokka (D:10)
  3 ball pythons
  9 bats
  6 frilled lizards
  A jackal skeleton (D:8)
  18 kobolds
  A quokka skeleton (D:5)
  A quokka zombie (D:5)
  7 rats
  A briar patch (Swamp:4)
  2 plants (Lair:6)
1185 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (collateral kills)
  A spiny frog (Lair:2)
  A hippogriff (Lair:2)
  An insubstantial wisp (Lair:2)
  A naga (Lair:2)
  A wight (D:8)
  A bullfrog skeleton (D:9)
  An orc (D:7)
7 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (others)
  A hydra (Swamp:2)
  A spiny frog (Lair:3)
  A shadow (D:15)
  A spriggan (Swamp:3)
  3 humans (D:13)
  An orc (Orc:2)
  A rat (D:3)
  4 briar patches (Swamp:4)
  19 fungi
  14 plants
46 creatures vanquished.

Grand Total: 1238 creatures vanquished

Notes
Turn   | Place    | Note
-------+----------+-------------------------------------------
     0 | D:1      | Vajrapani the Draconian Transmuter began the quest for the Orb.
     0 | D:1      | Reached XP level 1. HP: 16/16 MP: 3/3
   173 | D:1      | Reached XP level 2. HP: 20/23 MP: 3/5
   338 | D:1      | Reached skill level 4 in Unarmed Combat
   536 | D:1      | Learned a level 2 spell: Sticks to Snakes
   540 | D:1      | Reached XP level 3. HP: 26/28 MP: 4/6
  1690 | D:3      | Noticed Grinder
  1703 | D:3      | Paralysed by Grinder for 5 turns
  1723 | D:3      | Killed Grinder
  1723 | D:3      | Reached skill level 6 in Unarmed Combat
  1723 | D:3      | Reached XP level 4. HP: 15/35 MP: 3/7
  1723 | D:3      | Reached XP level 5. HP: 17/40 MP: 3/8
  2135 | D:3      | Noticed Ijyb
  2142 | D:3      | Killed Ijyb
  2142 | D:3      | Reached XP level 6. HP: 44/47 MP: 5/9
  2236 | D:3      | Noticed dvd's ghost (novice OpVM)
  2387 | D:3      | Killed dvd's ghost
  2387 | D:3      | Reached skill level 8 in Unarmed Combat
  2387 | D:3      | Your scales start taking on a dull iron-grey colour.
  2387 | D:3      | Reached XP level 7. HP: 26/52 MP: 10/10
  2387 | D:3      | Gained mutation: You can survive without breathing. [Grey Draconian growth]
  2424 | D:2      | HP: 2/52 [poisoned by dvd's ghost (sting)]
  2841 | D:2      | Learned a level 5 spell: Blade Hands
  3087 | D:3      | Found a stormy altar of Qazlal.
  4318 | D:5      | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
  4326 | D:5      | Noticed Philosophy's ghost (novice FoFi)
  4471 | D:5      | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple.
  4480 | Temple   | Entered the Ecumenical Temple
  4516 | Temple   | Became a worshipper of Ashenzari the Shackled
  4568 | D:5      | Reached skill level 9 in Unarmed Combat
  4669 | D:5      | Killed Philosophy's ghost
  4669 | D:5      | Reached skill level 10 in Unarmed Combat
  4669 | D:5      | Reached XP level 8. HP: 33/59 MP: 11/11
  5840 | D:6      | Noticed dajomu's ghost (novice MiFi)
  5893 | D:6      | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha.
  6312 | D:6      | Found an iron altar of Okawaru.
  6414 | D:6      | murphy: hi
  6414 | D:6      | Vajrapani: hey
  6416 | D:5      | murphy: :)
  6461 | D:6      | Noticed Menkaure
  6462 | D:6      | murphy: what happened with your venom mage?
  6464 | D:6      | Vajrapani: played it when i was sleepy
  6464 | D:6      | Vajrapani: made a dumb mistake
  6573 | D:6      | murphy: u were toxic radiance and uskayaw is a great synergy
  6577 | D:6      | murphy: u were right toxic radiance and uskayaw is a great synergy
  6577 | D:6      | Vajrapani: oh, cool
  6740 | D:6      | Reached * piety under Ashenzari
  6772 | D:6      | murphy: ??grey draconian
  6773 | D:6      | beem: grey draconian[1/1]: A form of draconian which doesn't breathe (they can wade in deep water and are unaffected by mephitic clouds). Grey Draconians get stability in water (no fumbling or stealth penalty), 5 more AC, +2 Earth, and -2 Air.
  6791 | D:6      | murphy: hm..
  6791 | D:6      | Vajrapani: sound pretty good for statue form
  6791 | D:6      | murphy: interesting
  6791 | D:6      | murphy: yes
  6795 | D:6      | murphy: hm..
  6796 | D:6      | murphy: may i see skills
  6797 | D:6      | murphy: yep that's very bad
  6797 | D:6      | Vajrapani: do i need transmutations?
  6797 | D:6      | murphy: i see now what your problem is with DrMo
  6797 | D:6      | murphy: and UC
  6797 | D:6      | murphy: actually i made some wiz mode sims
  6797 | D:6      | murphy: and it confirms my guesses
  6797 | D:6      | murphy: i played a lot of UC chars
  6797 | D:6      | murphy: and they get really strong
  6797 | D:6      | murphy: however
  6797 | D:6      | murphy: early on it does shit dmg
  6797 | D:6      | murphy: u see
  6797 | D:6      | murphy: there is a difference
  6797 | D:6      | murphy: between
  6797 | D:6      | murphy: Meleeweapon
  6797 | D:6      | murphy: and UC
  6797 | D:6      | murphy: they work differently
  6797 | D:6      | Vajrapani: yeah UC scales every 5 levels i think?
  6797 | D:6      | murphy: yes
  6797 | D:6      | murphy: so u gain not much for trining UC eraly
  6797 | D:6      | murphy: actually almost nothing
  6797 | D:6      | murphy: compared to wepon
  6797 | D:6      | murphy: weapon
  6797 | D:6      | Vajrapani: k
  6797 | D:6      | murphy: let's say u have a halfway decent weapon
  6797 | D:6      | murphy: at 10 skill
  6797 | D:6      | murphy: then u need 20 skill in UC
  6797 | D:6      | murphy: to get ruoughly the same
  6797 | D:6      | murphy: ofc this is without Transmut
  6797 | D:6      | Vajrapani: and claws?
  6797 | D:6      | murphy: without all bonuses
  6797 | D:6      | murphy: with extra bonus things look different
  6797 | D:6      | murphy: my advice is to not train UC at all
  6797 | D:6      | murphy: early
  6797 | D:6      | Vajrapani: ok
  6797 | D:6      | murphy: just train fighting
  6797 | D:6      | murphy: and if u find a good weapon maybe use that
  6797 | D:6      | murphy: or use magic
  6797 | D:6      | Vajrapani: btw this is DrTm
  6797 | D:6      | murphy: or if u find Tranmsutbook...
  6797 | D:6      | murphy: hm..
  6797 | D:6      | murphy: ok this changes things a little bit then
  6797 | D:6      | murphy: but still
  6797 | D:6      | murphy: train fighting more
  6797 | D:6      | murphy: then uc
  6797 | D:6      | murphy: or at least the same
  6797 | D:6      | Vajrapani: k, shall i turn off dodging?
  6797 | D:6      | murphy: hm..
  6797 | D:6      | murphy: show skills again
  6797 | D:6      | murphy: yes
  6797 | D:6      | murphy: no uc
  6797 | D:6      | murphy: only fighting
  6797 | D:6      | Vajrapani: k
  6797 | D:6      | murphy: to 10-11
  6812 | D:6      | murphy: btw
  6812 | D:6      | murphy: i'm not saying plain uc is weak
  6812 | D:6      | murphy: it's stronger then any weapon
  6812 | D:6      | murphy: later
  6812 | D:6      | murphy: but only above 20# skill
  6812 | D:6      | Vajrapani: ok
  6898 | D:6      | murphy: it can be ok before
  6907 | D:6      | murphy: but it really shines at high skill
  6972 | D:6      | murphy: and now i remember why i liked draconion so much here
  6974 | D:6      | murphy: since they have good fighting
  6975 | D:6      | murphy: and can use all wepons wwith (almost) only fighting skills
  6975 | D:6      | Vajrapani: cool
  7044 | D:7      | Noticed Philosophy's ghost (novice MiFi)
  7045 | D:7      | murphy: it me true that reaching mindelay with a naormal wepon is great
  7045 | D:7      | murphy: but for uc mindelay is at 27 skill
  7045 | D:7      | murphy: hi namnharef
  7063 | D:6      | Killed Menkaure
  7063 | D:6      | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting
  7378 | D:7      | murphy: btw i think Ashenzari is a bad choice for transmuter
  7380 | D:7      | murphy: well not optimal at least
  7380 | D:7      | namnharef: hi
  7380 | D:7      | murphy: u can't curse that many itmes
  7380 | D:7      | Vajrapani: yeah, the boosts aren't super powerful like other gods
  7380 | D:7      | murphy: i like ash
  7380 | D:7      | murphy: he might be the best god
  7389 | D:7      | murphy: but it's not optimal for transmuter
  7389 | D:7      | Vajrapani: ok
  7389 | D:7      | murphy: but still a great god
  7389 | D:7      | murphy: so maybe u will be fine
  7389 | D:7      | Vajrapani: btw increase int or str?
  7389 | D:7      | murphy: hm..
  7389 | D:7      | murphy: good question
  7389 | D:7      | murphy: dunno
  7389 | D:7      | murphy: strenght gives more dmg
  7389 | D:7      | murphy: for uc
  7389 | D:7      | murphy: and some more for other weapons
  7389 | D:7      | murphy: int not that important maybe
  7389 | D:7      | murphy: but int very good
  7389 | D:7      | Vajrapani: ah
  7389 | D:7      | murphy: for caster
  7389 | D:7      | murphy: so not sure
  7389 | D:7      | Vajrapani: btw when you die, you're number 12 on top crawlers on xtahua
  7389 | D:7      | murphy: huh?
  7389 | D:7      | Vajrapani: i think it's your deep dwarf fighter
  7389 | D:7      | murphy: what?
  7389 | D:7      | Vajrapani: when your char dies, you get shown the top 12 scores on the server
  7389 | D:7      | murphy: really?
  7389 | D:7      | Vajrapani: you're number 12
  7389 | D:7      | Vajrapani: yep
  7389 | D:7      | murphy: i doubt that
  7389 | D:7      | murphy: there are some really good player here
  7389 | D:7      | murphy: ah
  7389 | D:7      | murphy: hm..
  7389 | D:7      | murphy: maybe
  7389 | D:7      | murphy: it's trunk
  7389 | D:7      | murphy: so trunk is only like 1 month
  7389 | D:7      | Vajrapani: ye
  7389 | D:7      | murphy: so i had the 12th highest score in that
  7389 | D:7      | murphy: or no
  7389 | D:7      | murphy: hm..
  7389 | D:7      | murphy: i dunno
  7389 | D:7      | Vajrapani: you had the 12th highest score, with charly being 1st
  7389 | D:7      | Vajrapani: with 50 million Vine stalker monk
  7389 | D:7      | murphy: i'm not 12th best of all times on that server
  7389 | D:7      | Reached XP level 9. HP: 73/75 MP: 8/12
  7390 | D:7      | murphy: more like 700 th with my best run
  7390 | D:7      | murphy: i guess
  7390 | D:7      | murphy: btw check my flail
  7390 | D:7      | murphy: *the
  7396 | D:7      | Got the flail of the Maze {crush, rF+ Str+3}
  7397 | D:7      | Vajrapani: not that amazing
  7397 | D:7      | Identified the +2 flail of the Maze {crush, rF+ Str+3} (You found it on level 7 of the Dungeon)
  7398 | D:7      | murphy: hm..
  7399 | D:7      | murphy: yes not great
  7999 | D:7      | Killed Philosophy's ghost
  8425 | D:8      | Noticed Gastronok
  8790 | D:8      | Found a burning altar of Makhleb.
  8813 | D:8      | murphy: "Vajrapani: you had the 12th highest score, with charly being 1st Vajrapani: with 50 million Vine stalker monk"
  8813 | D:8      | murphy: it's true
  8813 | D:8      | Vajrapani: yep
  8813 | D:8      | murphy: this was my best run
  8813 | D:8      | murphy: i knew it was my best run by far
  8813 | D:8      | murphy: but didn't know it was that great
  8813 | D:8      | Vajrapani: you're a pretty good player
  8813 | D:8      | murphy: !speedzot
  9087 | D:8      | murphy: !speedorb
  9206 | D:8      | beem: murphy's fastest orb retrieval: 164 turns
  9206 | D:8      | Vajrapani: woah
  9206 | D:8      | Vajrapani: !speedorb
  9206 | D:8      | murphy: yep that was on that run
  9206 | D:8      | beem: Vajrapani's fastest orb retrieval: 6105 turns
  9206 | D:8      | Vajrapani: lol
  9228 | D:8      | murphy: ??score
  9229 | D:8      | beem: scoreboard[1/1]: CAO scoring: http://crawl.akrasiac.org/scoring/overview.html ; New scoreboard: https://scoreboard.crawl.develz.org/
  9230 | D:8      | murphy: ??scoring
  9230 | D:8      | beem: scoring[1/2]: Source for the CAO scoring pages: https://github.com/crawl/scoring
  9318 | D:8      | murphy: ??points
  9321 | D:8      | beem: scoreboard[1/1]: CAO scoring: http://crawl.akrasiac.org/scoring/overview.html ; New scoreboard: https://scoreboard.crawl.develz.org/
  9333 | D:8      | murphy: hm..
  9532 | D:7      | Reached skill level 10 in Fighting
  9626 | D:8      | murphy: ??nobreath
  9626 | D:8      | beem: nobreath ~ breath[1/1]: You must catch your breath after using certain abilities (like  {spit poison}, draconian breath, or Zin {recite}) before using a similar ability again. Not all breath timers are equal.
  9626 | D:8      | murphy: hm..
  9733 | D:8      | murphy: it think nobreath makes u immune to some things
  9796 | D:8      | murphy: like water
  9820 | D:8      | murphy: but also meph cloud
  9820 | D:8      | murphy: or poison cloud
  9820 | D:8      | Vajrapani: ??grey draconian
  9820 | D:8      | beem: grey draconian[1/1]: A form of draconian which doesn't breathe (they can wade in deep water and are unaffected by mephitic clouds). Grey Draconians get stability in water (no fumbling or stealth penalty), 5 more AC, +2 Earth, and -2 Air.
  9820 | D:8      | Vajrapani: yep
 10083 | D:8      | Reached XP level 10. HP: 75/94 MP: 13/13
 10111 | D:8      | murphy: http://crawl.chaosforge.org/index.php?title=Score
 10117 | D:8      | murphy: here is explained how the scoring works
 10186 | D:8      | Vajrapani: ok, thanks
 10186 | D:8      | murphy: i watched some vid of zzXc
 10186 | D:8      | murphy: it's really interresting
 10186 | D:8      | murphy: and i can learn a lot from watching
 10186 | D:8      | Vajrapani: incredible player
 10356 | D:8      | Vajrapani: btw fighting is 11 now
 10356 | D:8      | Vajrapani: shall i do dodging,uc and transmutations?
 10356 | D:8      | murphy: why not learn some spells?
 10356 | D:8      | murphy: beastly ap?
 10356 | D:8      | Vajrapani: k
 10356 | D:8      | murphy: do u use it?
 10356 | D:8      | Vajrapani: used it earlygame
 10356 | D:8      | murphy: what are u using now?
 10356 | D:8      | Vajrapani: i've just been fighting normally, with no spells
 10356 | D:8      | murphy: :/
 10356 | D:8      | murphy: that's bad
 10356 | D:8      | murphy: aleast  beastly apt is good
 10356 | D:8      | Vajrapani: ok
 10356 | D:8      | murphy: no hamr in doing little bit more dmg
 10356 | D:8      | murphy: but maybe others are better now
 10356 | D:8      | murphy: other transmut
 10356 | D:8      | murphy: i guess u are going for blade hands
 10356 | D:8      | murphy: ?
 10356 | D:8      | Vajrapani: ye
 10356 | D:8      | murphy: ok
 10356 | D:8      | murphy: good luck with that
 10356 | D:8      | Vajrapani: main problem is hydra's though
 10454 | D:9      | Reached ** piety under Ashenzari
 10455 | D:9      | murphy: i never had much luck with bladehands
 10455 | D:9      | Vajrapani: which spell do you prefer from the starting book?
 10455 | D:9      | murphy: nor did some other player i know and have actaully seen play the game
 10455 | D:9      | murphy: hm..
 10455 | D:9      | murphy: hm...
 10455 | D:9      | murphy: it's ok
 10455 | D:9      | murphy: try bladehands
 10455 | D:9      | murphy: i guess u have to try yourself
 10455 | D:9      | Vajrapani: ok, its mostly because i saw yermak with a naga transmute of oka
 10455 | D:9      | murphy: no reason for me to force u into my way of playing
 10455 | D:9      | murphy: yeah he did that?
 10455 | D:9      | Vajrapani: yeah, part of his streak, he used bladehands throughout
 10455 | D:9      | Vajrapani: did a ton of damage
 10455 | D:9      | murphy: what spells did he use?
 10455 | D:9      | Vajrapani: bladehands, then sometimes statue
 10455 | D:9      | murphy: i see
 10455 | D:9      | murphy: did he have a shield?
 10455 | D:9      | murphy: when in statue?
 10455 | D:9      | Vajrapani: not sure, it was a few weeks ago
 10455 | D:9      | murphy: hm..
 10455 | D:9      | murphy: yeah
 10455 | D:9      | murphy: just try yourself
 10455 | D:9      | Vajrapani: k
 10759 | D:9      | Learned a level 2 spell: Swiftness
 10891 | D:9      | Found a glowing silver altar of Zin.
 11214 | D:10     | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon
 11267 | D:9      | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging
 11846 | D:10     | Found a staircase to the Lair.
 11871 | Lair:1   | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts
 12080 | Lair:1   | Reached skill level 5 in Transmutations
 12210 | Lair:1   | Noticed a spiny frog
 12220 | Lair:1   | Killed a spiny frog
 12274 | Lair:1   | Vajrapani: STATUE FORM
 12274 | Lair:1   | murphy: :D
 12274 | Lair:1   | murphy: grats
 12274 | Lair:1   | Vajrapani: lets hope i can survive to get it
 12325 | Lair:1   | Reached *** piety under Ashenzari
 12326 | Lair:1   | murphy: how much spell lvl?
 12331 | Lair:1   | Vajrapani: 3 left
 12331 | Lair:1   | murphy: ok
 12336 | Lair:1   | Noticed a spiny frog
 12364 | Lair:1   | murphy: show potions
 12364 | Lair:1   | murphy: hm..
 12364 | Lair:1   | murphy: ok
 12367 | Lair:1   | Killed a spiny frog
 12520 | Lair:1   | murphy: u asked what to do against hydras
 12524 | Lair:1   | Vajrapani: ye?
 12524 | Lair:1   | murphy: just quaff potion of lignifiquations
 12524 | Lair:1   | murphy: it's really strong for tranmut
 12524 | Lair:1   | Vajrapani: ok
 12524 | Lair:1   | Vajrapani: i also memorised swiftness, just in case
 12524 | Lair:1   | Vajrapani: i need to escape
 12595 | Lair:1   | murphy: never used that spell much
 12761 | Lair:1   | murphy: i can see it's uses
 12779 | Lair:1   | murphy: but really dunno if it is great, ok or meh
 12791 | Lair:1   | Reached XP level 11. HP: 84/102 MP: 14/14
 12857 | Lair:1   | Vajrapani: i've got so much good stuff with this char
 12857 | Lair:1   | Vajrapani: statue form and dragon form, tele wand, haste wand
 12857 | Lair:1   | Vajrapani: really dont want to waste this
 13925 | Lair:2   | Found a staircase to the Snake Pit.
 14203 | Lair:2   | Noticed Sonja
 14206 | Lair:2   | murphy: stop
 14215 | Lair:1   | Vajrapani: ?
 14215 | Lair:1   | murphy: she has a weapon of distortion
 14215 | Lair:1   | Vajrapani: oh
 14215 | Lair:1   | murphy: she might banish u
 14215 | Lair:1   | murphy: u were lucky u got away
 14215 | Lair:1   | Vajrapani: skip the level?
 14215 | Lair:1   | murphy: i dunno
 14215 | Lair:1   | murphy: just telling u what can happen
 14215 | Lair:1   | Vajrapani: k
 14479 | Lair:1   | murphy: do u have a wand?
 14491 | Lair:1   | Vajrapani: a few
 14491 | Lair:1   | murphy: no wand of confuse?
 14491 | Lair:1   | Vajrapani: no, just enslavement
 14491 | Lair:1   | murphy: or polymorph?
 14491 | Lair:1   | Vajrapani: got polymorph
 14491 | Lair:1   | murphy: u should carry that one
 14491 | Lair:1   | Vajrapani: k
 14642 | D:10     | murphy: yeah
 14643 | D:10     | murphy: not wroth it
 14643 | D:10     | murphy: forget about the wand
 14645 | Lair:1   | Vajrapani: k
 15281 | Lair:2   | Reached **** piety under Ashenzari
 15559 | Lair:2   | murphy: ??distort
 15559 | Lair:2   | beem: distortion[1/5]: A weapon brand. When it hits, inflicts a random option from "1-7 bonus damage", "3-26 bonus damage", "blink", "teleport", or {banish}. When you unwield, you suffer wild translocation effects - up to 43 raw damage, banishment, teleport+confusion, or lots of glow. The probability of banishment from unwielding is 207/896, or about 23%.
 15695 | Lair:1   | Vajrapani: way too dangerous
 15695 | Lair:1   | Vajrapani: just gonna skip the level
 15695 | Lair:1   | murphy: so far she hitted u at least twice
 15695 | Lair:1   | Vajrapani: ye, i hoped sticks to snakes would kill her
 15695 | Lair:1   | Vajrapani: so i didnt have to come into melee range
 15869 | Lair:1   | murphy: are u throwing arrows O.o?
 15949 | Lair:1   | Vajrapani: my rcfile setting does that
 15949 | Lair:1   | murphy: cool i never did that
 15949 | Lair:1   | Vajrapani: i made it so it doesnt move towards enemies
 15949 | Lair:1   | Vajrapani: but if i have something quivered
 15949 | Lair:1   | Vajrapani: it shoots
 15952 | Lair:2   | murphy: cool
 15952 | Lair:2   | murphy: i will check that some time
 16171 | Lair:2   | murphy: she has weak mr
 16172 | Lair:2   | murphy: that's why i asked for wands
 16172 | Lair:2   | murphy: ;)
 16172 | Lair:2   | Vajrapani: ok
 16172 | Lair:2   | murphy: btw nessos is same
 16180 | Lair:3   | Found a staircase to the Swamp.
 16181 | Lair:3   | murphy: both are weak against those wands
 16678 | Lair:2   | Reached skill level 5 in Spellcasting
 17111 | Lair:3   | Noticed a seven-headed hydra
 17146 | Lair:2   | Killed Sonja
 17146 | Lair:2   | Reached XP level 12. HP: 88/110 MP: 14/21
 17182 | Lair:2   | murphy: ??spellfailure
 17182 | Lair:2   | beem: spellfailure ~ spell failure ~ success rate[1/2]: Spell success rates are coloured according to miscast severity. Grey means less than 0.1% chance of a severity 2+ miscast, yellow means < 0.5%, light red < 2.5%, dark red >= 2.5%.
 17186 | Lair:2   | murphy: ??spellfailure[2
 17186 | Lair:2   | beem: spellfailure ~ spell failure ~ chain mail[2/2]: http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/BigStickPopham/morgue-BigStickPopham-20150502-154057.txt http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/Newgrounder/morgue-Newgrounder-20141001-213251.txt
 18633 | Lair:3   | murphy: ??elephant
 18633 | Lair:3   | beem: elephant[1/2]: Plain elephants are green and (relatively) peace-loving pachyderms. This is not the case for their bigger, scarier cousins: {dire elephant}s and {hellephant}s.
 18635 | Lair:3   | murphy: ??elephant[2
 18636 | Lair:3   | beem: elephant[2/2]: The elephant tramples itself!
 18648 | Lair:3   | Vajrapani: damn, this komodo
 18655 | Lair:2   | Vajrapani: phew
 18905 | Lair:3   | murphy: why did u cuddle them?
 18976 | Lair:3   | Vajrapani: cuddle?
 18976 | Lair:3   | murphy: nvm
 18976 | Lair:3   | Vajrapani: btw, use lignification here?
 18976 | Lair:3   | murphy: u could
 18989 | Lair:3   | Killed a seven-headed hydra
 18990 | Lair:3   | Vajrapani: yay
 19471 | Lair:4   | murphy: ??trample
 19471 | Lair:4   | beem: trample[1/3]: Knockback that doesn't do extra dmg, and the monster gets a step to fill the gap. Things that trample: (dire) elephants, most large dragons (fire/ice/iron/swamp/golden/bone/storm), hell beasts, and thrashing horrors.
 19533 | Lair:4   | murphy: ??trample[2
 19533 | Lair:4   | beem: trample[2/3]: You cannot be trampled into deep water or lava unless you can swim in them. You can be trampled into traps. You can get trampled while trying to climb stairs, and you'll get pushed away from the stairs.
 19549 | Lair:4   | murphy: ??trample[3
 19552 | Lair:4   | beem: trample[3/3]: Your fire vortex stumbles backwards!
 19628 | Lair:4   | Reached skill level 11 in Unarmed Combat
 20662 | Lair:4   | Reached XP level 13. HP: 68/116 MP: 25/25
 20828 | Lair:4   | Vajrapani: hydra form at 14%
 20833 | Lair:4   | Learned a level 4 spell: Ice Form
 20896 | Lair:4   | Reached skill level 10 in Transmutations
 21891 | Lair:5   | Reached ***** piety under Ashenzari
 22986 | Lair:6   | Entered Level 6 of the Lair of Beasts
 23564 | Lair:6   | Learned a level 6 spell: Hydra Form
 23757 | Lair:6   | Vajrapani: what do you think is better statue or dragon form?
 23782 | Lair:6   | murphy: both are fun
 23782 | Lair:6   | Vajrapani: may be able to cast one of them soon
 23782 | Lair:6   | murphy: dragon from is funny with draconian
 23782 | Lair:6   | murphy: and highest dmg in the game
 23782 | Lair:6   | murphy: but statue is very very good
 23782 | Lair:6   | Vajrapani: k
 23782 | Lair:6   | murphy: much better def
 23782 | Lair:6   | murphy: and nice res
 23789 | Lair:6   | Learned a level 6 spell: Statue Form
 23789 | Lair:6   | Vajrapani: gonna try and get statue form online
 23789 | Lair:6   | Vajrapani: currently have hydra form
 23847 | Lair:6   | Reached skill level 1 in Earth Magic
 23979 | Lair:6   | Vajrapani: transmuter is so much
 23979 | Lair:6   | Vajrapani: fun
 23979 | Lair:6   | murphy: :D
 24005 | Lair:6   | murphy: yeah it is
 24005 | Lair:6   | Vajrapani: tons of damage and cool spells
 24005 | Lair:6   | murphy: and u can even cast highlvl spells
 24027 | Lair:6   | murphy: since u are not wearing armour
 24027 | Lair:6   | Vajrapani: ye
 24027 | Lair:6   | Vajrapani: woah dragon form is at 28%
 24435 | Lair:6   | Found a staircase to the Slime Pits.
 24437 | Lair:6   | Found a viscous altar of Jiyva.
 24439 | Lair:6   | Reached skill level 5 in Earth Magic
 25481 | Lair:6   | murphy: can u pls give dump?
 25481 | Lair:6   | Vajrapani: ok
 25481 | Lair:6   | murphy: thx
 26041 | Lair:6   | Vajrapani: gonna take a small break
 26415 | D:10     | Found Kiheluf's Book Emporium.
 26902 | D:10     | Reached XP level 14. HP: 125/125 MP: 19/26
 26909 | D:10     | Identified Kampyfah's Collected Works on Enhancements and Companions
 27296 | D:10     | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines.
 27445 | Orc:1    | Entered Level 1 of the Orcish Mines
 28237 | Orc:2    | Entered Level 2 of the Orcish Mines
 28237 | Orc:2    | Found Quek's Gadget Shoppe.
 28237 | Orc:2    | Noticed an orc warlord
 28552 | Orc:2    | Killed an orc warlord
 28552 | Orc:2    | Reached skill level 10 in Earth Magic
 28620 | Orc:2    | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh.
 28626 | Orc:2    | Noticed RussianFaggotGlassGo's ghost (journeyman FoSk)
 28781 | Orc:2    | Found a staircase to the Elven Halls.
 29201 | Orc:2    | Reached skill level 12 in Unarmed Combat
 29287 | Orc:2    | Found Bekhlemig's Gadget Boutique.
 29287 | Orc:2    | Found Teicomniaw's Distillery.
 29317 | Orc:2    | Bought a potion of heal wounds for 70 gold pieces
 29317 | Orc:2    | Bought a potion of heal wounds for 70 gold pieces
 29369 | Orc:2    | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh.
 29489 | Orc:2    | Killed RussianFaggotGlassGo's ghost
 29683 | Orc:2    | Found Kysmaleu's General Store.
 29683 | Orc:2    | Found Umuifits's Armour Shoppe.
 29733 | Orc:2    | Bought the +3 pair of gloves of the Land of Plenty {rF+ MR+} for 703 gold pieces
 29764 | Orc:2    | Reached ****** piety under Ashenzari
 30107 | D:11     | Found a frozen archway.
 31136 | D:12     | Found a flagged portal.
 31490 | D:12     | Reached skill level 13 in Unarmed Combat
 32098 | D:13     | Learned a level 7 spell: Dragon Form
 32288 | D:13     | Noticed Kirke
 32293 | D:13     | Noticed a sphinx
 32299 | D:13     | Killed Kirke
 32445 | D:13     | Reached XP level 15. HP: 117/137 MP: 18/27
 32939 | D:13     | Found Xosar's Elemental Accessories.
 33333 | D:13     | Found a gate to the Vaults.
 33520 | D:14     | Noticed Rupert
 33531 | D:14     | Killed Rupert
 33601 | D:14     | Reached skill level 14 in Unarmed Combat
 33887 | D:14     | Noticed Josephine
 33893 | D:14     | Killed Josephine
 34423 | D:15     | Entered Level 15 of the Dungeon
 34913 | D:15     | Reached skill level 15 in Fighting
 35055 | D:15     | Found a staircase to the Depths.
 35219 | D:15     | Reached skill level 15 in Unarmed Combat
 35802 | Swamp:1  | Entered Level 1 of the Swamp
 36059 | Swamp:1  | Reached skill level 10 in Dodging
 36362 | Swamp:1  | Reached XP level 16. HP: 145/149 MP: 26/29
 36849 | Swamp:2  | Noticed Roxanne
 37050 | Swamp:2  | Reached skill level 10 in Spellcasting
 37273 | Swamp:2  | Noticed Jorgrun
 37393 | Swamp:2  | Killed Jorgrun
 38330 | Swamp:3  | Noticed Donald
 38348 | Swamp:3  | Killed Donald
 38929 | Swamp:4  | Entered Level 4 of the Swamp
 38981 | Swamp:4  | Noticed a thorn hunter
 39305 | Swamp:4  | Killed a thorn hunter
 40054 | Swamp:4  | Identified a scroll of acquirement
 40156 | Swamp:4  | Noticed a thorn hunter
 40171 | Swamp:4  | Killed a thorn hunter
 40301 | Swamp:4  | Noticed a thorn hunter
 40315 | Swamp:4  | Killed a thorn hunter
 40742 | Swamp:4  | Noticed the 27-headed Lernaean hydra
 41773 | Swamp:4  | Killed the 26-headed Lernaean hydra
 41773 | Swamp:4  | Reached skill level 16 in Unarmed Combat
 41773 | Swamp:4  | Reached XP level 17. HP: 143/156 MP: 25/32
 42123 | Swamp:4  | Got a decaying rune of Zot
 42300 | Snake:1  | Entered Level 1 of the Snake Pit
 42907 | Snake:1  | Reached skill level 17 in Unarmed Combat
 43657 | Snake:2  | Noticed Frances
 43663 | Snake:2  | Killed Frances
 44241 | Snake:2  | Reached skill level 18 in Unarmed Combat
 44589 | Snake:2  | Found Ashun's Assorted Antiques.
 44594 | Snake:2  | Bought a scroll of identify for 94 gold pieces
 46261 | Snake:3  | Reached XP level 18. HP: 168/168 MP: 33/33
 46305 | Snake:4  | Entered Level 4 of the Snake Pit
 47339 | Snake:4  | Got a serpentine rune of Zot

Skill      XL: |  1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 |
---------------+-------------------------------------------------------+-----
Unarmed Combat |     4  6        8 10             11    13 15 16 18    | 18.1
Dodging        |                       3     6  9          10 12    13 | 13.2
Fighting       |                       6 10 11          13 15    16 17 | 17.0
Transmutations |                             6  8  9 12                | 12.0
Spellcasting   |                                6  8        9 11       | 11.5
Earth Magic    |                                      8 10             | 10.0
Throwing       |                                                       |  0.3

Action                   |  1- 3 |  4- 6 |  7- 9 | 10-12 | 13-15 | 16-18 || total
-------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------++-------
Melee: Unarmed           |   140 |    56 |   431 |   979 |  1471 |  1127 ||  4204
       Tailslap          |    12 |     4 |    52 |   128 |   138 |   123 ||   457
       Punch             |     5 |       |    14 |    43 |    52 |    79 ||   193
       Headbutt          |     4 |       |     6 |    10 |       |       ||    20
       Kick              |     7 |     3 |    12 |     5 |       |       ||    27
       Bite              |       |       |       |       |     4 |       ||     4
Throw: Stone             |     1 |       |       |       |       |       ||     1
       Throwing net      |       |       |       |    10 |     4 |       ||    14
 Cast: Beastly Appendage |    22 |     4 |    11 |     7 |       |       ||    44
       Sticks to Snakes  |     2 |     1 |    10 |    23 |     1 |       ||    37
       Blade Hands       |       |       |       |    20 |     8 |       ||    28
       Hydra Form        |       |       |       |       |    34 |     4 ||    38
       Statue Form       |       |       |       |       |    73 |    75 ||   148
       Dragon Form       |       |       |       |       |     1 |     1 ||     2
Invok: Curse Item        |       |       |     4 |     1 |     2 |     1 ||     8
 Abil: End Transformatio |       |       |       |     1 |       |     6 ||     7
Evoke: Wand              |       |       |     5 |     7 |     2 |     2 ||    16
  Use: Scroll            |     2 |       |     8 |    10 |    17 |    20 ||    57
       Potion            |       |       |       |     9 |     2 |     5 ||    16
 Stab: Betrayed ally     |       |       |     1 |       |       |       ||     1
       Distracted        |       |       |       |     3 |       |       ||     3
       Paralysed         |       |       |       |     1 |       |       ||     1
       Held in net/web   |       |       |       |     4 |     1 |       ||     5
  Eat: Chunk             |     3 |     3 |    14 |    32 |    65 |    38 ||   155
       Beef jerky        |       |       |     4 |     3 |     3 |     2 ||    12
       Royal jelly       |       |       |     1 |     1 |       |     7 ||     9
       Meat ration       |       |       |     1 |       |       |     2 ||     3
       Pizza             |       |       |     1 |       |       |     2 ||     3
       Bread ration      |       |       |       |     1 |       |       ||     1
       Fruit             |       |       |       |       |     5 |     6 ||    11
Armor: Skin              |    35 |    21 |   171 |   478 |   845 |   908 ||  2458
Dodge: Dodged            |    86 |    24 |   212 |   739 |  1402 |  1688 ||  4151



This is the first I've gotten a transmuter this far, and it's pretty fun to play. It's also incredibly strong, and I had gotten 2 runes before I knew it. The next part of the game is where I splat alot so any advice related to skills, branch order etc. would be appreciated.

Also, I've only ever done vaults as my 3rd rune without every venturing to the Abyss or Slime so I'd like to know if they would be easier than V:5,since apparently ashenzari followers have an easier time in abyss, or if there's a specific strategy that transmuters use on V:5? My usual strategy is to have a vampiric weapon/Makhleb and funnel everything into a corridor or stairdance and smite vault wardens as required but this character has neither of those.
Last edited by Vajrapani on Friday, 16th December 2016, 10:28, edited 1 time in total.
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Post Friday, 16th December 2016, 05:41

Re: CIP - DrTm^Ash, 2 runes - feeling overconfident

Why Ash for DrTm? It does not support Unarmed Combat, which is the most crucial.
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Post Friday, 16th December 2016, 05:44

Re: CIP - DrTm^Ash, 2 runes - feeling overconfident

papilio wrote:Why Ash for DrTm? It does not support Unarmed Combat, which is the most crucial.


I was originally going to pick Okawaru, but his altar wasn't in the temple, so I decided to just go with Ash, and try it out for the first time. I didn't really expect this run to go very far. The skill boost was helpful though, in getting hydra and statue form online fairly quickly.
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Post Friday, 16th December 2016, 05:46

Re: CIP - DrTm^Ash, 2 runes - feeling overconfident

Yes, Ashenzari is "not bad" for transmuters. But obviously it's not the "best" choice IMO.

Anyhow, for V:5, in the very first phase, I usually do stairdance with Statue Form until vault warden appear and lock the stairs.
Once vault warden start to lock, then I teleport to one of four quadrants and kill swarm of monsters with Dragon Form+Haste+Might+Agil+Regen+Resist.
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Post Friday, 16th December 2016, 06:48

Re: CIP - DrTm^Ash, 2 runes - feeling overconfident

You seem to be in a good form. I'd train some Stealth next, even Stlth+++ would help, although I eventually train Stealth to at least 10-15 with my transmuters. It helps avoid being spotted right away and close the distance to monsters with ranged attacks. Helps you a bit avoid being mutated as well. I'd also pick Dex for stat increases from now on to get a bit more EV and stealth.

I'd also train Tmut until Dragon Form fail % is gray. IIRC, draconians keep their AC bonus in Dragon Form and Blade Hands, but not in other forms, so that makes Dragon Form (and Blade Hands) more preferable for draconians, and Statue Form less preferable.

Pick up any good spells if you find them, at least Regeneration, Repel Missiles, Butterflies.

After V:1-4, U:1-5, I'd say fetch whichever rune 3rd. A transmuter should steamroll over V:5, but with some stealth Ash makes Abyss tolerable as well, and with rCorr one can wipe out Slime as well. The last two might give you some mutations, so if you're very short on !curemut, just do V:5.
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Post Friday, 16th December 2016, 10:30

Re: CIP-> YASD- DrTm^Ash - V:5

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 Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.19.1 (webtiles) character file.

469906 Vajrapani the Warrior (level 23, -9/215 HPs)
             Began as a Grey Draconian Transmuter on Dec 16, 2016.
             Was the Champion of Ashenzari.
             Killed from afar by a tengu reaver (42 damage)
             ... with a bolt of lightning
             ... on level 5 of the Vaults.
             The game lasted 04:52:49 (68479 turns).

Vajrapani the Warrior (Grey Draconian Transmuter)  Turns: 68479, Time: 04:52:50

Health: -9/215     AC: 33    Str: 20    XL:     23   Next: 51%
Magic:  39/39      EV: 24    Int: 16    God:    Ashenzari [******]
Gold:   392        SH:  8    Dex: 12    Spells: 8 memorised, 10 levels left

rFire  + . .      SeeInvis +      - Unarmed
rCold  . . .      Gourm    .    (armour unavailable)
rNeg   . . .      Faith    +    Y - +2 buckler (curse)
rPois  .          Spirit   .    L - +2 hat (curse)
rElec  .          Reflect  .    J - +2 cloak (curse)
rCorr  .          Harm     .    o - +3 pair of gloves of the Land of Plenty {rF+ MR+} (curse)
MR     +++..      Clarity  +    G - +2 pair of boots (curse)
Stlth  +++++.....               B - amulet of faith (curse)
                                m - ring of protection from magic
                                O - +5 ring of protection (curse)

@: very slightly contaminated
A: walk through water, unfitting armour, unbreathing, cold-blooded, AC +16
a: Curse Item, Scrying, Transfer Knowledge, Renounce Religion
}: 2/15 runes: decaying, serpentine


You were on level 5 of the Vaults.
You worshipped Ashenzari.
Ashenzari was exalted by your worship.
You were hungry.

You visited 8 branches of the dungeon, and saw 42 of its levels.

You collected 3709 gold pieces.
You spent 3317 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Missiles
 g - 1563 arrows
Armour
 o - the cursed +3 pair of gloves of the Land of Plenty (worn) {rF+ MR+}
   (You bought it in a shop on level 2 of the Orcish Mines)   
   
   It protects you from fire.
   It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments.
   It has a curse placed upon it.
 G - a cursed +2 pair of boots (worn)
 J - a cursed +2 cloak (worn)
 L - a cursed +2 hat (worn)
 Y - a cursed +2 buckler (worn)
Jewellery
 c - an uncursed ring of protection from cold
 f - an uncursed ring of protection from fire
 m - a ring of protection from magic (right hand)
 r - an uncursed ring of protection from cold
 B - a cursed amulet of faith (around neck)
 C - an uncursed ring of resist corrosion
 F - an uncursed ring of protection from fire
 O - a cursed +5 ring of protection (left hand)
Wands
 a - a wand of disintegration (10/24)
 q - a wand of hasting (3/9)
 N - a wand of hasting (2/9)
 R - a wand of teleportation (9/9)
Scrolls
 h - 4 scrolls of fear
 i - 3 scrolls of blinking
 l - 5 scrolls of magic mapping
 t - 5 scrolls of amnesia
 y - 3 scrolls of enchant weapon
 E - 7 scrolls of teleportation
 K - a scroll of silence
 Q - 7 scrolls of remove curse
 T - 2 scrolls of brand weapon
 V - a scroll of recharging
 W - 7 scrolls of fog
Potions
 b - a potion of ambrosia
 n - 3 potions of flight
 p - 3 potions of invisibility
 u - 5 potions of lignification
 v - 8 potions of curing
 w - a potion of magic
 z - 3 potions of heal wounds
 A - 5 potions of agility
 H - a potion of brilliance
 S - a potion of cancellation
 U - a potion of resistance
Books
 e - a book of Transfigurations   
   
    Spells                             Type                      Level
    a - Irradiate                    Conjuration/Transmutation     5
    b - Statue Form                  Transmutation/Earth           6
    c - Hydra Form                   Transmutation                 6
    d - Dragon Form                  Transmutation                 7
Miscellaneous
 j - a phantom mirror
 P - a phial of floods
Comestibles
 d - 6 chunks of flesh
 k - 7 slices of pizza
 s - 4 fruits
 I - 3 royal jellies
 M - 16 meat rations
 X - 4 beef jerkies
 Z - 26 bread rations


   Skills:
 - Level 20.1 Fighting
 - Level 0.3 Throwing
 - Level 16.1(20.0) Dodging
 - Level 9.8(14.1) Stealth
 - Level 6.1(9.2) Shields
 - Level 20.0 Unarmed Combat
 - Level 12.2 Spellcasting
 - Level 4.1(6.9) Necromancy
 - Level 10.7(13.5) Translocations
 + Level 17.5(19.9) Transmutations
 - Level 10.0(12.8) Earth Magic


You had 10 spell levels left.
You knew the following spells:

 Your Spells              Type           Power        Failure   Level  Hunger
a - Dragon Form           Tmut           ######....   1%          7    #######
b - Sticks to Snakes      Tmut           ######..     0%          2    None
c - Blade Hands           Tmut           ######....   1%          5    #####..
d - Regeneration          Chrm/Necr      ###.......   6%          3    None
e - Ice Form              Ice/Tmut       #####...     1%          4    ##.....
f - Hydra Form            Tmut           ######....   1%          6    ######.
g - Statue Form           Tmut/Erth      ######...    1%          6    ######.
h - Lesser Beckoning      Tloc           ######....   1%          3    None


Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (15/15)            Temple (1/1) D:5            Lair (6/6) D:10
  Swamp (4/4) Lair:3        Snake (4/4) Lair:2        Slime (0/5) Lair:6
    Orc (2/2) D:10            Elf (0/3) Orc:2        Vaults (5/5) D:13
  Crypt (0/3) Vaults:3     Depths (5/5) D:15            Zot (0/5) Depths:5

Altars:
Ashenzari
Cheibriados
Dithmenos
Elyvilon
Fedhas
Gozag
Hepliaklqana
Kikubaaqudgha
Makhleb
Nemelex Xobeh
Okawaru
Qazlal
Ru
Sif Muna
Trog
Uskayaw
Vehumet
Xom
Yredelemnul
Zin
The Shining One
Beogh
Jiyva

Shops:
D:10 :   D:13 *   Orc:2 !}[*}   Snake:2 *   Vaults:2 [   Vaults:3 =
Depths:1 *

Portals:
Hell: Depths:1 Depths:2 Depths:3 Depths:4 Depths:5
Abyss: Depths:4
Pandemonium: Depths:1 Depths:3
Ziggurat: Depths:3

Annotations:
D:6 dajomu's ghost, novice MiFi
D:8 Gastronok
Lair:6 exclusion: oklob plant
Swamp:2 exclusion: Roxanne, Roxanne
Depths:1 1 runed door


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You can walk through water.
Your dull iron-grey scales are very hard. (AC +16)
You cannot fit into any form of body armour.
You can survive without breathing.
You are cold-blooded and may be slowed by cold attacks.


Message History

A deep elf high priest comes into view. It is wielding an enchanted quarterstaff.
The deep elf high priest mumbles some strange prayers to its god against you.
Something smites you!
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
A storm dragon and a titan come into view.
You take 13 damage, and have 43/215 hp.
You feel better. You feel less invigorated.
The storm dragon roars deafeningly!
The storm dragon breathes lightning at you.
The bolt of lightning hits you!
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
An orc sorcerer and a tengu reaver come into view.
Ashenzari warns you: The tengu reaver is wielding a war axe of flaming. The orc sorcerer is wielding a dagger of protection.
You take 11 damage, and have 32/215 hp.
A shadow dragon comes into view.
The titan waves its arms in wide circles.
The air twists around and strikes you!
The tengu reaver points at you and mumbles some strange words.
The bolt of lightning hits you!
You die...

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You could see a shadow dragon, a titan, a storm dragon, a tengu reaver and an
orc sorcerer (wandering).

Vanquished Creatures
  Mennas (Depths:4)
  A juggernaut (Depths:5)
  the Lernaean hydra (Swamp:4)
  Jory (Vaults:2)
  the Enchantress (Depths:5)
  Jorgrun (Swamp:2)
  2 liches
  Rupert (D:14)
  2 deep elf blademasters
  A quicksilver dragon (Depths:5)
  Asterion (Vaults:1)
  A titan (Depths:4)
  Frances (Snake:2)
  A deep elf master archer (Depths:3)
  6 sphinxes
  Kirke (D:13)
  3 thorn hunters (Swamp:4)
  5 tengu reavers
  2 storm dragons (Depths:4)
  Donald (Swamp:3)
  9 nagarajas
  A draconian monk (Depths:5)
  6 frost giants
  6 fire giants
  2 ghost moths (Depths:4)
  A deep elf sorcerer (Vaults:3)
  An iron dragon (shapeshifter) (Depths:4)
  12 vault wardens
  3 orc warlords
  2 spriggan defenders (Depths:4)
  11 ironheart preservers
  24 very ugly things
  4 war gargoyles (Depths:4)
  12 stone giants
  4 draconian callers (Depths:5)
  3 entropy weavers (Vaults:4)
  A stone giant (shapeshifter) (Depths:4)
  3 vampire knights
  A yellow draconian (Depths:5)
  2 green draconians (Depths:5)
  13 spark wasps
  3 deep elf annihilators (Depths:4)
  A red draconian (Depths:5)
  The ghost of RussianFaggotGlassGo the Carver, a journeyman FoSk of Cheibriados (Orc:2)
  13 fire dragons
  A deep elf death mage (Vaults:2)
  A crystal guardian (Depths:4)
  7 ettins
  7 great orbs of eyes
  Josephine (D:14)
  19 yaktaur captains
  3 jiangshi (Depths:3)
  An ice dragon (shapeshifter) (Depths:4)
  15 naga warriors
  42 vault guards
  13 ice dragons
  6 rakshasas
  20 hydras
  14 anacondas
  8 spriggan air magi
  A catoblepas (Lair:6)
  3 death knights
  2 ghost crabs
  13 centaur warriors
  2 juggernaut simulacra (Depths:4)
  4 tengu warriors
  13 deep troll shamans
  3 spriggan berserkers
  7 ogre magi
  8 alligators
  A vampire mage (Depths:3)
  11 naga sharpshooters
  8 dancing weapons
  9 deep troll earth magi
  An orc high priest (Orc:2)
  3 shock serpents
  Sonja (Lair:2)
  3 deep elf knights
  A small abomination (Vaults:2)
  A storm dragon zombie (Vaults:3)
  A sun demon (Depths:3)
  3 iron trolls
  8 skeletal warriors
  3 salamander mystics (Snake:3)
  2 shadow wraiths (Vaults:3)
  28 deep trolls
  A deep troll (shapeshifter) (Depths:4)
  A glowing orange brain (Depths:3)
  An unseen horror (D:11)
  7 hell knights
  3 spriggan druids
  6 deep elf archers
  2 shambling mangroves
  9 wizards
  23 orc knights
  15 swamp dragons
  5 hill giants
  5 naga ritualists
  A flayed ghost (Vaults:2)
  18 ironbrand convokers
  4 tengu skeletons
  3 phantasmal warriors
  6 harpies
  41 ugly things
  12 necromancers
  An orb spider (shapeshifter) (Vaults:4)
  A cyclops (shapeshifter) (Depths:4)
  A fire giant zombie (Vaults:2)
  7 mana vipers
  5 wolf spiders
  16 orc sorcerers
  16 salamanders
  10 cyclopes
  4 manticores
  A sphinx skeleton (Vaults:3)
  13 deep elf magi
  12 elephants
  A manticore (shapeshifter) (Depths:5)
  3 stone giant skeletons
  3 guardian serpents
  13 naga magi
  A torpor snail (Lair:6)
  The ghost of Philosophy the Chopper, a novice MiFi of Okawaru (D:7)
  14 vault sentinels
  30 black mambas
  The ghost of Philosophy the Shield-Bearer, a novice FoFi (D:5)
  24 spiny frogs
  A gargoyle (D:15)
  3 yaktaur zombies
  8 freezing wraiths
  2 kobold demonologists (Swamp:2)
  4 rime drakes
  13 komodo dragons
  The ghost of dvd the Stinger, a novice OpVM (D:3)
  57 yaktaurs
  A hydra zombie (Swamp:1)
  2 efreet
  2 yaktaur skeletons
  2 tengu conjurers
  A jumping spider (Vaults:4)
  A queen bee (Lair:2)
  A troll (shapeshifter) (Vaults:4)
  Grinder (D:3)
  2 polar bears
  A polar bear (shapeshifter) (Depths:1)
  3 meliai (D:13)
  14 trolls
  18 hornets
  2 meliai (shapeshifter) (Vaults:4)
  10 tyrant leeches
  11 bog bodies
  13 two-headed ogres
  2 human simulacra
  4 dream sheep (Lair:6)
  14 hippogriffs
  19 slime creatures
  9 blink frogs
  8 redbacks
  10 spriggans
  A spriggan (shapeshifter) (Vaults:4)
  11 wyverns
  7 wraiths
  3 shadows
  2 air elementals
  37 yaks
  3 water elementals
  16 humans (D:13)
  A tyrant leech zombie (Swamp:1)
  6 basilisks
  A hog (D:13)
  A steam dragon (Lair:2)
  26 vampire mosquitoes
  2 elf skeletons
  A hungry ghost (D:7)
  8 wargs
  Menkaure (D:6)
  9 swamp worms
  5 mottled dragons
  16 insubstantial wisps
  59 nagas
  A soldier ant (D:12)
  21 water moccasins
  A swamp drake (shapeshifter) (Depths:4)
  41 orc warriors
  9 porcupines
  A hornet zombie (Swamp:1)
  A black bear (Lair:5)
  4 ice beasts
  18 swamp drakes
  A deep troll skeleton (Vaults:3)
  A human zombie (Vaults:1)
  An ettin simulacrum (Vaults:1)
  20 ogres
  7 sky beasts
  2 eyes of draining
  15 wolves
  A phantom (D:10)
  13 boggarts
  41 centaurs
  6 human skeletons
  15 crocodiles
  10 electric eels
  3 big kobolds
  24 bullfrogs
  A wyvern zombie (D:14)
  A scorpion (shapeshifter) (Depths:4)
  2 scorpions
  26 killer bees
  3 howler monkeys
  13 wights
  10 crimson imps
  A centaur zombie (D:10)
  13 hounds
  A bullfrog zombie (D:12)
  4 jellies
  3 centaur skeletons
  21 orc priests
  39 orc wizards
  2 bullfrog skeletons
  Ijyb (D:3)
  3 iguanas
  11 worker ants
  A crocodile zombie (Swamp:1)
  A hound skeleton (D:10)
  2 worker ant zombies
  17 adders
  9 gnolls
  2 river rats (Lair:6)
  3 shadow imps
  12 white imps (D:11)
  5 worms
  3 dart slugs (D:1)
  8 leopard geckos
  121 orcs
  5 giant cockroaches
  8 goblins
  6 hobgoblins
  11 jackals
  A quokka (D:10)
  3 ball pythons
  9 bats
  6 frilled lizards
  A jackal skeleton (D:8)
  18 kobolds
  A quokka skeleton (D:5)
  A quokka zombie (D:5)
  7 rats
  A briar patch (Swamp:4)
  2 plants (Lair:6)
1944 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (collateral kills)
  A spiny frog (Lair:2)
  A hippogriff (Lair:2)
  An insubstantial wisp (Lair:2)
  A naga (Lair:2)
  A wight (D:8)
  A bullfrog skeleton (D:9)
  An orc (D:7)
7 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (others)
  A hydra (Swamp:2)
  A spiny frog (Lair:3)
  A shadow (D:15)
  A spriggan (Swamp:3)
  3 humans (D:13)
  A golden eye (shapeshifter) (Depths:4)
  A centaur (Vaults:2)
  2 orcs
  A rat (D:3)
  4 briar patches (Swamp:4)
  19 fungi
  14 plants
49 creatures vanquished.

Grand Total: 2000 creatures vanquished

Notes
Turn   | Place    | Note
-------+----------+-------------------------------------------
     0 | D:1      | Vajrapani the Draconian Transmuter began the quest for the Orb.
     0 | D:1      | Reached XP level 1. HP: 16/16 MP: 3/3
   173 | D:1      | Reached XP level 2. HP: 20/23 MP: 3/5
   536 | D:1      | Learned a level 2 spell: Sticks to Snakes
   540 | D:1      | Reached XP level 3. HP: 26/28 MP: 4/6
  1690 | D:3      | Noticed Grinder
  1703 | D:3      | Paralysed by Grinder for 5 turns
  1723 | D:3      | Killed Grinder
  1723 | D:3      | Reached XP level 4. HP: 15/35 MP: 3/7
  1723 | D:3      | Reached XP level 5. HP: 17/40 MP: 3/8
  2135 | D:3      | Noticed Ijyb
  2142 | D:3      | Killed Ijyb
  2142 | D:3      | Reached XP level 6. HP: 44/47 MP: 5/9
  2236 | D:3      | Noticed dvd's ghost (novice OpVM)
  2387 | D:3      | Killed dvd's ghost
  2387 | D:3      | Your scales start taking on a dull iron-grey colour.
  2387 | D:3      | Reached XP level 7. HP: 26/52 MP: 10/10
  2387 | D:3      | Gained mutation: You can survive without breathing. [Grey Draconian growth]
  2424 | D:2      | HP: 2/52 [poisoned by dvd's ghost (sting)]
  2841 | D:2      | Learned a level 5 spell: Blade Hands
  3087 | D:3      | Found a stormy altar of Qazlal.
  4318 | D:5      | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
  4326 | D:5      | Noticed Philosophy's ghost (novice FoFi)
  4471 | D:5      | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple.
  4480 | Temple   | Entered the Ecumenical Temple
  4516 | Temple   | Became a worshipper of Ashenzari the Shackled
  4669 | D:5      | Killed Philosophy's ghost
  4669 | D:5      | Reached skill level 10 in Unarmed Combat
  4669 | D:5      | Reached XP level 8. HP: 33/59 MP: 11/11
  5840 | D:6      | Noticed dajomu's ghost (novice MiFi)
  5893 | D:6      | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha.
  6312 | D:6      | Found an iron altar of Okawaru.
  6414 | D:6      | murphy: hi
  6414 | D:6      | Vajrapani: hey
  6416 | D:5      | murphy: :)
  6461 | D:6      | Noticed Menkaure
  6462 | D:6      | murphy: what happened with your venom mage?
  6464 | D:6      | Vajrapani: played it when i was sleepy
  6464 | D:6      | Vajrapani: made a dumb mistake
  6573 | D:6      | murphy: u were toxic radiance and uskayaw is a great synergy
  6577 | D:6      | murphy: u were right toxic radiance and uskayaw is a great synergy
  6577 | D:6      | Vajrapani: oh, cool
  6740 | D:6      | Reached * piety under Ashenzari
  6772 | D:6      | murphy: ??grey draconian
  6773 | D:6      | beem: grey draconian[1/1]: A form of draconian which doesn't breathe (they can wade in deep water and are unaffected by mephitic clouds). Grey Draconians get stability in water (no fumbling or stealth penalty), 5 more AC, +2 Earth, and -2 Air.
  6791 | D:6      | murphy: hm..
  6791 | D:6      | Vajrapani: sound pretty good for statue form
  6791 | D:6      | murphy: interesting
  6791 | D:6      | murphy: yes
  6795 | D:6      | murphy: hm..
  6796 | D:6      | murphy: may i see skills
  6797 | D:6      | murphy: yep that's very bad
  6797 | D:6      | Vajrapani: do i need transmutations?
  6797 | D:6      | murphy: i see now what your problem is with DrMo
  6797 | D:6      | murphy: and UC
  6797 | D:6      | murphy: actually i made some wiz mode sims
  6797 | D:6      | murphy: and it confirms my guesses
  6797 | D:6      | murphy: i played a lot of UC chars
  6797 | D:6      | murphy: and they get really strong
  6797 | D:6      | murphy: however
  6797 | D:6      | murphy: early on it does shit dmg
  6797 | D:6      | murphy: u see
  6797 | D:6      | murphy: there is a difference
  6797 | D:6      | murphy: between
  6797 | D:6      | murphy: Meleeweapon
  6797 | D:6      | murphy: and UC
  6797 | D:6      | murphy: they work differently
  6797 | D:6      | Vajrapani: yeah UC scales every 5 levels i think?
  6797 | D:6      | murphy: yes
  6797 | D:6      | murphy: so u gain not much for trining UC eraly
  6797 | D:6      | murphy: actually almost nothing
  6797 | D:6      | murphy: compared to wepon
  6797 | D:6      | murphy: weapon
  6797 | D:6      | Vajrapani: k
  6797 | D:6      | murphy: let's say u have a halfway decent weapon
  6797 | D:6      | murphy: at 10 skill
  6797 | D:6      | murphy: then u need 20 skill in UC
  6797 | D:6      | murphy: to get ruoughly the same
  6797 | D:6      | murphy: ofc this is without Transmut
  6797 | D:6      | Vajrapani: and claws?
  6797 | D:6      | murphy: without all bonuses
  6797 | D:6      | murphy: with extra bonus things look different
  6797 | D:6      | murphy: my advice is to not train UC at all
  6797 | D:6      | murphy: early
  6797 | D:6      | Vajrapani: ok
  6797 | D:6      | murphy: just train fighting
  6797 | D:6      | murphy: and if u find a good weapon maybe use that
  6797 | D:6      | murphy: or use magic
  6797 | D:6      | Vajrapani: btw this is DrTm
  6797 | D:6      | murphy: or if u find Tranmsutbook...
  6797 | D:6      | murphy: hm..
  6797 | D:6      | murphy: ok this changes things a little bit then
  6797 | D:6      | murphy: but still
  6797 | D:6      | murphy: train fighting more
  6797 | D:6      | murphy: then uc
  6797 | D:6      | murphy: or at least the same
  6797 | D:6      | Vajrapani: k, shall i turn off dodging?
  6797 | D:6      | murphy: hm..
  6797 | D:6      | murphy: show skills again
  6797 | D:6      | murphy: yes
  6797 | D:6      | murphy: no uc
  6797 | D:6      | murphy: only fighting
  6797 | D:6      | Vajrapani: k
  6797 | D:6      | murphy: to 10-11
  6812 | D:6      | murphy: btw
  6812 | D:6      | murphy: i'm not saying plain uc is weak
  6812 | D:6      | murphy: it's stronger then any weapon
  6812 | D:6      | murphy: later
  6812 | D:6      | murphy: but only above 20# skill
  6812 | D:6      | Vajrapani: ok
  6898 | D:6      | murphy: it can be ok before
  6907 | D:6      | murphy: but it really shines at high skill
  6972 | D:6      | murphy: and now i remember why i liked draconion so much here
  6974 | D:6      | murphy: since they have good fighting
  6975 | D:6      | murphy: and can use all wepons wwith (almost) only fighting skills
  6975 | D:6      | Vajrapani: cool
  7044 | D:7      | Noticed Philosophy's ghost (novice MiFi)
  7045 | D:7      | murphy: it me true that reaching mindelay with a naormal wepon is great
  7045 | D:7      | murphy: but for uc mindelay is at 27 skill
  7045 | D:7      | murphy: hi namnharef
  7063 | D:6      | Killed Menkaure
  7063 | D:6      | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting
  7378 | D:7      | murphy: btw i think Ashenzari is a bad choice for transmuter
  7380 | D:7      | murphy: well not optimal at least
  7380 | D:7      | namnharef: hi
  7380 | D:7      | murphy: u can't curse that many itmes
  7380 | D:7      | Vajrapani: yeah, the boosts aren't super powerful like other gods
  7380 | D:7      | murphy: i like ash
  7380 | D:7      | murphy: he might be the best god
  7389 | D:7      | murphy: but it's not optimal for transmuter
  7389 | D:7      | Vajrapani: ok
  7389 | D:7      | murphy: but still a great god
  7389 | D:7      | murphy: so maybe u will be fine
  7389 | D:7      | Vajrapani: btw increase int or str?
  7389 | D:7      | murphy: hm..
  7389 | D:7      | murphy: good question
  7389 | D:7      | murphy: dunno
  7389 | D:7      | murphy: strenght gives more dmg
  7389 | D:7      | murphy: for uc
  7389 | D:7      | murphy: and some more for other weapons
  7389 | D:7      | murphy: int not that important maybe
  7389 | D:7      | murphy: but int very good
  7389 | D:7      | Vajrapani: ah
  7389 | D:7      | murphy: for caster
  7389 | D:7      | murphy: so not sure
  7389 | D:7      | Vajrapani: btw when you die, you're number 12 on top crawlers on xtahua
  7389 | D:7      | murphy: huh?
  7389 | D:7      | Vajrapani: i think it's your deep dwarf fighter
  7389 | D:7      | murphy: what?
  7389 | D:7      | Vajrapani: when your char dies, you get shown the top 12 scores on the server
  7389 | D:7      | murphy: really?
  7389 | D:7      | Vajrapani: you're number 12
  7389 | D:7      | Vajrapani: yep
  7389 | D:7      | murphy: i doubt that
  7389 | D:7      | murphy: there are some really good player here
  7389 | D:7      | murphy: ah
  7389 | D:7      | murphy: hm..
  7389 | D:7      | murphy: maybe
  7389 | D:7      | murphy: it's trunk
  7389 | D:7      | murphy: so trunk is only like 1 month
  7389 | D:7      | Vajrapani: ye
  7389 | D:7      | murphy: so i had the 12th highest score in that
  7389 | D:7      | murphy: or no
  7389 | D:7      | murphy: hm..
  7389 | D:7      | murphy: i dunno
  7389 | D:7      | Vajrapani: you had the 12th highest score, with charly being 1st
  7389 | D:7      | Vajrapani: with 50 million Vine stalker monk
  7389 | D:7      | murphy: i'm not 12th best of all times on that server
  7389 | D:7      | Reached XP level 9. HP: 73/75 MP: 8/12
  7390 | D:7      | murphy: more like 700 th with my best run
  7390 | D:7      | murphy: i guess
  7390 | D:7      | murphy: btw check my flail
  7390 | D:7      | murphy: *the
  7396 | D:7      | Got the flail of the Maze {crush, rF+ Str+3}
  7397 | D:7      | Vajrapani: not that amazing
  7397 | D:7      | Identified the +2 flail of the Maze {crush, rF+ Str+3} (You found it on level 7 of the Dungeon)
  7398 | D:7      | murphy: hm..
  7399 | D:7      | murphy: yes not great
  7999 | D:7      | Killed Philosophy's ghost
  8425 | D:8      | Noticed Gastronok
  8790 | D:8      | Found a burning altar of Makhleb.
  8813 | D:8      | murphy: "Vajrapani: you had the 12th highest score, with charly being 1st Vajrapani: with 50 million Vine stalker monk"
  8813 | D:8      | murphy: it's true
  8813 | D:8      | Vajrapani: yep
  8813 | D:8      | murphy: this was my best run
  8813 | D:8      | murphy: i knew it was my best run by far
  8813 | D:8      | murphy: but didn't know it was that great
  8813 | D:8      | Vajrapani: you're a pretty good player
  8813 | D:8      | murphy: !speedzot
  9087 | D:8      | murphy: !speedorb
  9206 | D:8      | beem: murphy's fastest orb retrieval: 164 turns
  9206 | D:8      | Vajrapani: woah
  9206 | D:8      | Vajrapani: !speedorb
  9206 | D:8      | murphy: yep that was on that run
  9206 | D:8      | beem: Vajrapani's fastest orb retrieval: 6105 turns
  9206 | D:8      | Vajrapani: lol
  9228 | D:8      | murphy: ??score
  9229 | D:8      | beem: scoreboard[1/1]: CAO scoring: http://crawl.akrasiac.org/scoring/overview.html ; New scoreboard: https://scoreboard.crawl.develz.org/
  9230 | D:8      | murphy: ??scoring
  9230 | D:8      | beem: scoring[1/2]: Source for the CAO scoring pages: https://github.com/crawl/scoring
  9318 | D:8      | murphy: ??points
  9321 | D:8      | beem: scoreboard[1/1]: CAO scoring: http://crawl.akrasiac.org/scoring/overview.html ; New scoreboard: https://scoreboard.crawl.develz.org/
  9333 | D:8      | murphy: hm..
  9532 | D:7      | Reached skill level 10 in Fighting
  9626 | D:8      | murphy: ??nobreath
  9626 | D:8      | beem: nobreath ~ breath[1/1]: You must catch your breath after using certain abilities (like  {spit poison}, draconian breath, or Zin {recite}) before using a similar ability again. Not all breath timers are equal.
  9626 | D:8      | murphy: hm..
  9733 | D:8      | murphy: it think nobreath makes u immune to some things
  9796 | D:8      | murphy: like water
  9820 | D:8      | murphy: but also meph cloud
  9820 | D:8      | murphy: or poison cloud
  9820 | D:8      | Vajrapani: ??grey draconian
  9820 | D:8      | beem: grey draconian[1/1]: A form of draconian which doesn't breathe (they can wade in deep water and are unaffected by mephitic clouds). Grey Draconians get stability in water (no fumbling or stealth penalty), 5 more AC, +2 Earth, and -2 Air.
  9820 | D:8      | Vajrapani: yep
 10083 | D:8      | Reached XP level 10. HP: 75/94 MP: 13/13
 10111 | D:8      | murphy: http://crawl.chaosforge.org/index.php?title=Score
 10117 | D:8      | murphy: here is explained how the scoring works
 10186 | D:8      | Vajrapani: ok, thanks
 10186 | D:8      | murphy: i watched some vid of zzXc
 10186 | D:8      | murphy: it's really interresting
 10186 | D:8      | murphy: and i can learn a lot from watching
 10186 | D:8      | Vajrapani: incredible player
 10356 | D:8      | Vajrapani: btw fighting is 11 now
 10356 | D:8      | Vajrapani: shall i do dodging,uc and transmutations?
 10356 | D:8      | murphy: why not learn some spells?
 10356 | D:8      | murphy: beastly ap?
 10356 | D:8      | Vajrapani: k
 10356 | D:8      | murphy: do u use it?
 10356 | D:8      | Vajrapani: used it earlygame
 10356 | D:8      | murphy: what are u using now?
 10356 | D:8      | Vajrapani: i've just been fighting normally, with no spells
 10356 | D:8      | murphy: :/
 10356 | D:8      | murphy: that's bad
 10356 | D:8      | murphy: aleast  beastly apt is good
 10356 | D:8      | Vajrapani: ok
 10356 | D:8      | murphy: no hamr in doing little bit more dmg
 10356 | D:8      | murphy: but maybe others are better now
 10356 | D:8      | murphy: other transmut
 10356 | D:8      | murphy: i guess u are going for blade hands
 10356 | D:8      | murphy: ?
 10356 | D:8      | Vajrapani: ye
 10356 | D:8      | murphy: ok
 10356 | D:8      | murphy: good luck with that
 10356 | D:8      | Vajrapani: main problem is hydra's though
 10454 | D:9      | Reached ** piety under Ashenzari
 10455 | D:9      | murphy: i never had much luck with bladehands
 10455 | D:9      | Vajrapani: which spell do you prefer from the starting book?
 10455 | D:9      | murphy: nor did some other player i know and have actaully seen play the game
 10455 | D:9      | murphy: hm..
 10455 | D:9      | murphy: hm...
 10455 | D:9      | murphy: it's ok
 10455 | D:9      | murphy: try bladehands
 10455 | D:9      | murphy: i guess u have to try yourself
 10455 | D:9      | Vajrapani: ok, its mostly because i saw yermak with a naga transmute of oka
 10455 | D:9      | murphy: no reason for me to force u into my way of playing
 10455 | D:9      | murphy: yeah he did that?
 10455 | D:9      | Vajrapani: yeah, part of his streak, he used bladehands throughout
 10455 | D:9      | Vajrapani: did a ton of damage
 10455 | D:9      | murphy: what spells did he use?
 10455 | D:9      | Vajrapani: bladehands, then sometimes statue
 10455 | D:9      | murphy: i see
 10455 | D:9      | murphy: did he have a shield?
 10455 | D:9      | murphy: when in statue?
 10455 | D:9      | Vajrapani: not sure, it was a few weeks ago
 10455 | D:9      | murphy: hm..
 10455 | D:9      | murphy: yeah
 10455 | D:9      | murphy: just try yourself
 10455 | D:9      | Vajrapani: k
 10759 | D:9      | Learned a level 2 spell: Swiftness
 10891 | D:9      | Found a glowing silver altar of Zin.
 11214 | D:10     | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon
 11267 | D:9      | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging
 11846 | D:10     | Found a staircase to the Lair.
 11871 | Lair:1   | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts
 12080 | Lair:1   | Reached skill level 5 in Transmutations
 12210 | Lair:1   | Noticed a spiny frog
 12220 | Lair:1   | Killed a spiny frog
 12274 | Lair:1   | Vajrapani: STATUE FORM
 12274 | Lair:1   | murphy: :D
 12274 | Lair:1   | murphy: grats
 12274 | Lair:1   | Vajrapani: lets hope i can survive to get it
 12325 | Lair:1   | Reached *** piety under Ashenzari
 12326 | Lair:1   | murphy: how much spell lvl?
 12331 | Lair:1   | Vajrapani: 3 left
 12331 | Lair:1   | murphy: ok
 12336 | Lair:1   | Noticed a spiny frog
 12364 | Lair:1   | murphy: show potions
 12364 | Lair:1   | murphy: hm..
 12364 | Lair:1   | murphy: ok
 12367 | Lair:1   | Killed a spiny frog
 12520 | Lair:1   | murphy: u asked what to do against hydras
 12524 | Lair:1   | Vajrapani: ye?
 12524 | Lair:1   | murphy: just quaff potion of lignifiquations
 12524 | Lair:1   | murphy: it's really strong for tranmut
 12524 | Lair:1   | Vajrapani: ok
 12524 | Lair:1   | Vajrapani: i also memorised swiftness, just in case
 12524 | Lair:1   | Vajrapani: i need to escape
 12595 | Lair:1   | murphy: never used that spell much
 12761 | Lair:1   | murphy: i can see it's uses
 12779 | Lair:1   | murphy: but really dunno if it is great, ok or meh
 12791 | Lair:1   | Reached XP level 11. HP: 84/102 MP: 14/14
 12857 | Lair:1   | Vajrapani: i've got so much good stuff with this char
 12857 | Lair:1   | Vajrapani: statue form and dragon form, tele wand, haste wand
 12857 | Lair:1   | Vajrapani: really dont want to waste this
 13925 | Lair:2   | Found a staircase to the Snake Pit.
 14203 | Lair:2   | Noticed Sonja
 14206 | Lair:2   | murphy: stop
 14215 | Lair:1   | Vajrapani: ?
 14215 | Lair:1   | murphy: she has a weapon of distortion
 14215 | Lair:1   | Vajrapani: oh
 14215 | Lair:1   | murphy: she might banish u
 14215 | Lair:1   | murphy: u were lucky u got away
 14215 | Lair:1   | Vajrapani: skip the level?
 14215 | Lair:1   | murphy: i dunno
 14215 | Lair:1   | murphy: just telling u what can happen
 14215 | Lair:1   | Vajrapani: k
 14479 | Lair:1   | murphy: do u have a wand?
 14491 | Lair:1   | Vajrapani: a few
 14491 | Lair:1   | murphy: no wand of confuse?
 14491 | Lair:1   | Vajrapani: no, just enslavement
 14491 | Lair:1   | murphy: or polymorph?
 14491 | Lair:1   | Vajrapani: got polymorph
 14491 | Lair:1   | murphy: u should carry that one
 14491 | Lair:1   | Vajrapani: k
 14642 | D:10     | murphy: yeah
 14643 | D:10     | murphy: not wroth it
 14643 | D:10     | murphy: forget about the wand
 14645 | Lair:1   | Vajrapani: k
 15281 | Lair:2   | Reached **** piety under Ashenzari
 15559 | Lair:2   | murphy: ??distort
 15559 | Lair:2   | beem: distortion[1/5]: A weapon brand. When it hits, inflicts a random option from "1-7 bonus damage", "3-26 bonus damage", "blink", "teleport", or {banish}. When you unwield, you suffer wild translocation effects - up to 43 raw damage, banishment, teleport+confusion, or lots of glow. The probability of banishment from unwielding is 207/896, or about 23%.
 15695 | Lair:1   | Vajrapani: way too dangerous
 15695 | Lair:1   | Vajrapani: just gonna skip the level
 15695 | Lair:1   | murphy: so far she hitted u at least twice
 15695 | Lair:1   | Vajrapani: ye, i hoped sticks to snakes would kill her
 15695 | Lair:1   | Vajrapani: so i didnt have to come into melee range
 15869 | Lair:1   | murphy: are u throwing arrows O.o?
 15949 | Lair:1   | Vajrapani: my rcfile setting does that
 15949 | Lair:1   | murphy: cool i never did that
 15949 | Lair:1   | Vajrapani: i made it so it doesnt move towards enemies
 15949 | Lair:1   | Vajrapani: but if i have something quivered
 15949 | Lair:1   | Vajrapani: it shoots
 15952 | Lair:2   | murphy: cool
 15952 | Lair:2   | murphy: i will check that some time
 16171 | Lair:2   | murphy: she has weak mr
 16172 | Lair:2   | murphy: that's why i asked for wands
 16172 | Lair:2   | murphy: ;)
 16172 | Lair:2   | Vajrapani: ok
 16172 | Lair:2   | murphy: btw nessos is same
 16180 | Lair:3   | Found a staircase to the Swamp.
 16181 | Lair:3   | murphy: both are weak against those wands
 16678 | Lair:2   | Reached skill level 5 in Spellcasting
 17111 | Lair:3   | Noticed a seven-headed hydra
 17146 | Lair:2   | Killed Sonja
 17146 | Lair:2   | Reached XP level 12. HP: 88/110 MP: 14/21
 17182 | Lair:2   | murphy: ??spellfailure
 17182 | Lair:2   | beem: spellfailure ~ spell failure ~ success rate[1/2]: Spell success rates are coloured according to miscast severity. Grey means less than 0.1% chance of a severity 2+ miscast, yellow means < 0.5%, light red < 2.5%, dark red >= 2.5%.
 17186 | Lair:2   | murphy: ??spellfailure[2
 17186 | Lair:2   | beem: spellfailure ~ spell failure ~ chain mail[2/2]: http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/BigStickPopham/morgue-BigStickPopham-20150502-154057.txt http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/Newgrounder/morgue-Newgrounder-20141001-213251.txt
 18633 | Lair:3   | murphy: ??elephant
 18633 | Lair:3   | beem: elephant[1/2]: Plain elephants are green and (relatively) peace-loving pachyderms. This is not the case for their bigger, scarier cousins: {dire elephant}s and {hellephant}s.
 18635 | Lair:3   | murphy: ??elephant[2
 18636 | Lair:3   | beem: elephant[2/2]: The elephant tramples itself!
 18648 | Lair:3   | Vajrapani: damn, this komodo
 18655 | Lair:2   | Vajrapani: phew
 18905 | Lair:3   | murphy: why did u cuddle them?
 18976 | Lair:3   | Vajrapani: cuddle?
 18976 | Lair:3   | murphy: nvm
 18976 | Lair:3   | Vajrapani: btw, use lignification here?
 18976 | Lair:3   | murphy: u could
 18989 | Lair:3   | Killed a seven-headed hydra
 18990 | Lair:3   | Vajrapani: yay
 19471 | Lair:4   | murphy: ??trample
 19471 | Lair:4   | beem: trample[1/3]: Knockback that doesn't do extra dmg, and the monster gets a step to fill the gap. Things that trample: (dire) elephants, most large dragons (fire/ice/iron/swamp/golden/bone/storm), hell beasts, and thrashing horrors.
 19533 | Lair:4   | murphy: ??trample[2
 19533 | Lair:4   | beem: trample[2/3]: You cannot be trampled into deep water or lava unless you can swim in them. You can be trampled into traps. You can get trampled while trying to climb stairs, and you'll get pushed away from the stairs.
 19549 | Lair:4   | murphy: ??trample[3
 19552 | Lair:4   | beem: trample[3/3]: Your fire vortex stumbles backwards!
 20662 | Lair:4   | Reached XP level 13. HP: 68/116 MP: 25/25
 20828 | Lair:4   | Vajrapani: hydra form at 14%
 20833 | Lair:4   | Learned a level 4 spell: Ice Form
 20896 | Lair:4   | Reached skill level 10 in Transmutations
 21891 | Lair:5   | Reached ***** piety under Ashenzari
 22986 | Lair:6   | Entered Level 6 of the Lair of Beasts
 23564 | Lair:6   | Learned a level 6 spell: Hydra Form
 23757 | Lair:6   | Vajrapani: what do you think is better statue or dragon form?
 23782 | Lair:6   | murphy: both are fun
 23782 | Lair:6   | Vajrapani: may be able to cast one of them soon
 23782 | Lair:6   | murphy: dragon from is funny with draconian
 23782 | Lair:6   | murphy: and highest dmg in the game
 23782 | Lair:6   | murphy: but statue is very very good
 23782 | Lair:6   | Vajrapani: k
 23782 | Lair:6   | murphy: much better def
 23782 | Lair:6   | murphy: and nice res
 23789 | Lair:6   | Learned a level 6 spell: Statue Form
 23789 | Lair:6   | Vajrapani: gonna try and get statue form online
 23789 | Lair:6   | Vajrapani: currently have hydra form
 23847 | Lair:6   | Reached skill level 1 in Earth Magic
 23979 | Lair:6   | Vajrapani: transmuter is so much
 23979 | Lair:6   | Vajrapani: fun
 23979 | Lair:6   | murphy: :D
 24005 | Lair:6   | murphy: yeah it is
 24005 | Lair:6   | Vajrapani: tons of damage and cool spells
 24005 | Lair:6   | murphy: and u can even cast highlvl spells
 24027 | Lair:6   | murphy: since u are not wearing armour
 24027 | Lair:6   | Vajrapani: ye
 24027 | Lair:6   | Vajrapani: woah dragon form is at 28%
 24435 | Lair:6   | Found a staircase to the Slime Pits.
 24437 | Lair:6   | Found a viscous altar of Jiyva.
 24439 | Lair:6   | Reached skill level 5 in Earth Magic
 25481 | Lair:6   | murphy: can u pls give dump?
 25481 | Lair:6   | Vajrapani: ok
 25481 | Lair:6   | murphy: thx
 26041 | Lair:6   | Vajrapani: gonna take a small break
 26415 | D:10     | Found Kiheluf's Book Emporium.
 26902 | D:10     | Reached XP level 14. HP: 125/125 MP: 19/26
 26909 | D:10     | Identified Kampyfah's Collected Works on Enhancements and Companions
 27296 | D:10     | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines.
 27445 | Orc:1    | Entered Level 1 of the Orcish Mines
 28237 | Orc:2    | Entered Level 2 of the Orcish Mines
 28237 | Orc:2    | Found Quek's Gadget Shoppe.
 28237 | Orc:2    | Noticed an orc warlord
 28552 | Orc:2    | Killed an orc warlord
 28552 | Orc:2    | Reached skill level 10 in Earth Magic
 28620 | Orc:2    | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh.
 28626 | Orc:2    | Noticed RussianFaggotGlassGo's ghost (journeyman FoSk)
 28781 | Orc:2    | Found a staircase to the Elven Halls.
 29287 | Orc:2    | Found Bekhlemig's Gadget Boutique.
 29287 | Orc:2    | Found Teicomniaw's Distillery.
 29317 | Orc:2    | Bought a potion of heal wounds for 70 gold pieces
 29317 | Orc:2    | Bought a potion of heal wounds for 70 gold pieces
 29369 | Orc:2    | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh.
 29489 | Orc:2    | Killed RussianFaggotGlassGo's ghost
 29683 | Orc:2    | Found Kysmaleu's General Store.
 29683 | Orc:2    | Found Umuifits's Armour Shoppe.
 29733 | Orc:2    | Bought the +3 pair of gloves of the Land of Plenty {rF+ MR+} for 703 gold pieces
 29764 | Orc:2    | Reached ****** piety under Ashenzari
 30107 | D:11     | Found a frozen archway.
 31136 | D:12     | Found a flagged portal.
 32098 | D:13     | Learned a level 7 spell: Dragon Form
 32288 | D:13     | Noticed Kirke
 32293 | D:13     | Noticed a sphinx
 32299 | D:13     | Killed Kirke
 32445 | D:13     | Reached XP level 15. HP: 117/137 MP: 18/27
 32939 | D:13     | Found Xosar's Elemental Accessories.
 33333 | D:13     | Found a gate to the Vaults.
 33520 | D:14     | Noticed Rupert
 33531 | D:14     | Killed Rupert
 33887 | D:14     | Noticed Josephine
 33893 | D:14     | Killed Josephine
 34423 | D:15     | Entered Level 15 of the Dungeon
 34913 | D:15     | Reached skill level 15 in Fighting
 35055 | D:15     | Found a staircase to the Depths.
 35219 | D:15     | Reached skill level 15 in Unarmed Combat
 35802 | Swamp:1  | Entered Level 1 of the Swamp
 36059 | Swamp:1  | Reached skill level 10 in Dodging
 36362 | Swamp:1  | Reached XP level 16. HP: 145/149 MP: 26/29
 36849 | Swamp:2  | Noticed Roxanne
 37050 | Swamp:2  | Reached skill level 10 in Spellcasting
 37273 | Swamp:2  | Noticed Jorgrun
 37393 | Swamp:2  | Killed Jorgrun
 38330 | Swamp:3  | Noticed Donald
 38348 | Swamp:3  | Killed Donald
 38929 | Swamp:4  | Entered Level 4 of the Swamp
 38981 | Swamp:4  | Noticed a thorn hunter
 39305 | Swamp:4  | Killed a thorn hunter
 40054 | Swamp:4  | Identified a scroll of acquirement
 40156 | Swamp:4  | Noticed a thorn hunter
 40171 | Swamp:4  | Killed a thorn hunter
 40301 | Swamp:4  | Noticed a thorn hunter
 40315 | Swamp:4  | Killed a thorn hunter
 40742 | Swamp:4  | Noticed the 27-headed Lernaean hydra
 41773 | Swamp:4  | Killed the 26-headed Lernaean hydra
 41773 | Swamp:4  | Reached XP level 17. HP: 143/156 MP: 25/32
 42123 | Swamp:4  | Got a decaying rune of Zot
 42300 | Snake:1  | Entered Level 1 of the Snake Pit
 43657 | Snake:2  | Noticed Frances
 43663 | Snake:2  | Killed Frances
 44589 | Snake:2  | Found Ashun's Assorted Antiques.
 44594 | Snake:2  | Bought a scroll of identify for 94 gold pieces
 46261 | Snake:3  | Reached XP level 18. HP: 168/168 MP: 33/33
 46305 | Snake:4  | Entered Level 4 of the Snake Pit
 47339 | Snake:4  | Got a serpentine rune of Zot
 47591 | Vaults:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Vaults
 47728 | Vaults:1 | Noticed Asterion
 47736 | Vaults:1 | Killed Asterion
 47871 | D:10     | Bought a book of Battle for 680 gold pieces
 47875 | D:10     | Learned a level 3 spell: Regeneration
 49650 | Vaults:2 | Reached XP level 19. HP: 177/177 MP: 34/34
 49848 | Vaults:2 | Reached skill level 15 in Transmutations
 49876 | Vaults:2 | Leszczynek: can you do a char dump?
 49882 | Vaults:2 | Vajrapani: sure
 49882 | Vaults:2 | Leszczynek: thx
 50688 | Vaults:2 | Found Hied's Armour Shop.
 50828 | Vaults:2 | jesus, that damage
 51035 | Vaults:2 | Noticed Jory
 51451 | Vaults:2 | Killed Jory
 52180 | Vaults:2 | Reached skill level 1 in Necromancy
 52245 | Vaults:2 | Leszczynek: i wonder if you even need statue with your ac
 52277 | Vaults:2 | Vajrapani: yeah, i noticed that the boost isnt that massive
 52277 | Vaults:2 | Leszczynek: you get gdr sure, but with blade hands you get normal speed
 52277 | Vaults:2 | Vajrapani: is dragon form also decent?
 52277 | Vaults:2 | Leszczynek: i'm not sure, i haven't played many proper transmuters
 52277 | Vaults:2 | Vajrapani: ah,k
 52277 | Vaults:2 | Leszczynek: should be decent for orbs at least
 53260 | D:10     | Bought a book of Party Tricks for 850 gold pieces
 53264 | D:10     | Learned a level 3 spell: Lesser Beckoning
 53466 | Vaults:3 | Reached skill level 1 in Translocations
 53480 | Vaults:3 | Found a hide-covered altar of Uskayaw.
 53658 | Vaults:3 | Reached XP level 20. HP: 189/189 MP: 36/36
 53677 | Vaults:3 | Reached skill level 5 in Translocations
 54531 | Vaults:3 | Identified the cursed ring of Winop {Wiz rC+ rN+ MR- Str+3} (You acquired it on level 3 of the Vaults)
 54648 | Vaults:3 | Found a staircase to the Crypt.
 54752 | Vaults:3 | Found Geycunol's Jewellery Emporium.
 54761 | Vaults:3 | Bought an uncursed ring of protection from fire for 500 gold pieces
 54913 | Vaults:4 | Reached skill level 10 in Translocations
 56645 | Depths:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Depths
 56840 | Depths:1 | Reached XP level 21. HP: 198/198 MP: 30/37
 57194 | Depths:1 | Found a one-way gate leading to the halls of Pandemonium.
 57527 | Depths:1 | Found Wufytiecw's Assorted Antiques.
 57766 | Depths:1 | Found a runed door.
 58159 | Depths:1 | Found a gateway to Hell.
 60147 | Depths:3 | Found a gateway to a ziggurat.
 60586 | Depths:3 | Found an iron altar of Okawaru.
 60880 | Depths:3 | Reached skill level 15 in Dodging
 60936 | Depths:3 | Identified the cursed -2 hat "Mivats" {Str+3}
 61118 | Depths:3 | Vajrapani: ??dragon form
 61118 | Depths:3 | beem: dragon form[1/3]: You're a dragon now! RAAAAWR! Breathe fire! Be tough (+50% hp) and strong! Gives +10 str, flight, rPois+ rFire++ rCold-, 34% GDR, 16 AC exactly, giant size (will nuke your EV). Base unarmed damage (including claws) = (18 + str*(2/3) + unarmed_skill). Gives Claws 3 (works for offhand punch) and 2 additional auxiliary attacks, bite and tail-slap.
 61258 | Depths:3 | Reached XP level 22. HP: 209/209 MP: 32/38
 61333 | Depths:3 | Reached skill level 1 in Stealth
 62597 | Depths:4 | Reached skill level 5 in Stealth
 63087 | Depths:4 | Noticed Mennas
 63133 | Depths:4 | Killed Mennas
 64010 | Depths:4 | Gained mutation: Your spells are a little harder to cast, but a little more powerful. [potion of beneficial mutation]
 64340 | Orc:2    | Bought a potion of cure mutation for 350 gold pieces
 64340 | Orc:2    | Lost mutation: Your spells are a little harder to cast, but a little more powerful. [potion of cure mutation]
 64747 | Depths:4 | Reached skill level 1 in Shields
 64974 | Depths:4 | Found a one-way gate to the infinite horrors of the Abyss.
 65044 | Depths:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Depths
 65050 | Depths:5 | Noticed the Enchantress
 65199 | Depths:5 | Reached skill level 5 in Shields
 65263 | Depths:5 | Found a gate to the Realm of Zot.
 65407 | Depths:5 | Reached XP level 23. HP: 215/215 MP: 39/39
 65450 | Depths:5 | Killed the Enchantress
 66127 | Depths:5 | Noticed a juggernaut
 66134 | Depths:5 | Killed a juggernaut
 67146 | Vaults:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Vaults
 68470 | Vaults:5 | Noticed an ancient lich
 68479 | Vaults:5 | Killed from afar by a tengu reaver

Skill      XL: |  1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 |
---------------+----------------------------------------------------------------------+-----
Unarmed Combat |     4  6        8 10             11    13 15 16 18          19 20    | 20.0
Dodging        |                       3     6  9          10 12    13       15 16    | 16.1
Fighting       |                       6 10 11          13 15    16 17 18 19 20       | 20.1
Transmutations |                             6  8  9 12             14 15          17 | 17.5
Spellcasting   |                                6  8        9 11       12             | 12.2
Earth Magic    |                                      8 10                            | 10.0
Necromancy     |                                                        4             |  4.1
Translocations |                                                        4 10          | 10.7
Stealth        |                                                                 8  9 |  9.8
Shields        |                                                                 6    |  6.1
Throwing       |                                                                      |  0.3

Action                   |  1- 3 |  4- 6 |  7- 9 | 10-12 | 13-15 | 16-18 | 19-21 | 22-24 || total
-------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------++-------
Melee: Unarmed           |   140 |    56 |   431 |   979 |  1471 |  1350 |  1168 |   540 ||  6135
       Tailslap          |    12 |     4 |    52 |   128 |   138 |   152 |   185 |    65 ||   736
       Punch             |     5 |       |    14 |    43 |    52 |    91 |   115 |    49 ||   369
       Headbutt          |     4 |       |     6 |    10 |       |       |       |       ||    20
       Kick              |     7 |     3 |    12 |     5 |       |       |       |       ||    27
       Bite              |       |       |       |       |     4 |       |    85 |    39 ||   128
Throw: Stone             |     1 |       |       |       |       |       |       |       ||     1
       Throwing net      |       |       |       |    10 |     4 |       |       |       ||    14
 Cast: Beastly Appendage |    22 |     4 |    11 |     7 |       |       |       |       ||    44
       Sticks to Snakes  |     2 |     1 |    10 |    23 |     1 |       |       |       ||    37
       Blade Hands       |       |       |       |    20 |     8 |       |    12 |    10 ||    50
       Hydra Form        |       |       |       |       |    34 |     4 |     2 |       ||    40
       Statue Form       |       |       |       |       |    73 |    90 |     8 |       ||   171
       Dragon Form       |       |       |       |       |     1 |     1 |    65 |    35 ||   102
       Regeneration      |       |       |       |       |       |       |     6 |     2 ||     8
       Lesser Beckoning  |       |       |       |       |       |       |     2 |     5 ||     7
Invok: Curse Item        |       |       |     4 |     1 |     2 |     1 |       |     1 ||     9
       Scrying           |       |       |       |       |       |       |     1 |       ||     1
 Abil: End Transformatio |       |       |       |     1 |       |     6 |     2 |     1 ||    10
Evoke: Wand              |       |       |     5 |     7 |     2 |     2 |     3 |     6 ||    25
  Use: Scroll            |     2 |       |     8 |    10 |    17 |    20 |     7 |     7 ||    71
       Potion            |       |       |       |     9 |     2 |     5 |     2 |    10 ||    28
 Stab: Betrayed ally     |       |       |     1 |       |       |       |       |       ||     1
       Distracted        |       |       |       |     3 |       |       |     2 |     4 ||     9
       Paralysed         |       |       |       |     1 |       |       |       |       ||     1
       Held in net/web   |       |       |       |     4 |     1 |       |       |       ||     5
  Eat: Chunk             |     3 |     3 |    14 |    32 |    65 |    52 |    69 |    30 ||   268
       Beef jerky        |       |       |     4 |     3 |     3 |     2 |     1 |     2 ||    15
       Royal jelly       |       |       |     1 |     1 |       |     7 |     3 |     3 ||    15
       Meat ration       |       |       |     1 |       |       |     2 |     1 |       ||     4
       Pizza             |       |       |     1 |       |       |     2 |       |     1 ||     4
       Bread ration      |       |       |       |     1 |       |       |       |       ||     1
       Fruit             |       |       |       |       |     5 |     6 |     1 |     3 ||    15
Armor: Skin              |    35 |    21 |   171 |   478 |   845 |  1032 |   562 |   239 ||  3383
Dodge: Dodged            |    86 |    24 |   212 |   739 |  1402 |  1940 |   695 |   316 ||  5414
Block: Buckler           |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |     5 ||   


Damn, it was such a good run but I played when I was sleepy and paid the price. I was stairdancing v:5 and didn't notice a warden, I then teleported and a tengu reaver happened to roll high at the moment I thought I was in safer territory.
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Post Friday, 16th December 2016, 11:24

Re: CIP-> YASD- DrTm^Ash - V:5

There is much said about V:5, including "just go elsewhere for your 3rd rune". I don't have the links at hand, but duvessa's advice is something like "Read a tele scroll before going down. First thing you do on V:5 is read Magic Mapping."

Basically, the 'welcome party' on V:5 is the least threatening thing and is there to bait you into making noise (e.g. by hitting them hard). The majority of the quadrant layouts offer much safer environments to work with than "the focal point where all the scary things show up after waking up".
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Post Friday, 16th December 2016, 12:03

Vajrapani wrote:Also, I've only ever done vaults as my 3rd rune without every venturing to the Abyss or Slime so I'd like to know if they would be easier than V:5

In earlier versions of crawl the silver rune was a no-brainer as third rune, some players even did it as their first (which was possible in these times).

Things have changed after the bottom of the vaults was buffed significantly. This leads to the strategic question which rune can be done as third. There are some discussions in this forum, e.g.


If you search this forum for "third rune" you'll find some more.

Vajrapani wrote:since apparently ashenzari followers have an easier time in abyss

Yes.

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